Your Thread – November 28

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Anyone doing any holiday shopping today…I’ll be roaming the near west suburbs in search of Black Friday shoppers; fun times.

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34 thoughts on “Your Thread – November 28

  1. http://spiritchanneller-beyondearth.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-just-lost-very-long-post-so-its-time.html

    Beyond Earth
    This is a story about a Spirit Channeller who got a little more than I bargained for when I set out to develop my Psychic abilities and learn to communicate with the World beyond Earth. These pages will dispel the myths that I believed when I set out on this journey in the Mid Eighties and brings us up to this point in time when I am in search of an Exorcist to help me send three of my Relatives and Dr. P. on their way to the higher realms, and they are not going swiftly or quietly.

    Friday, November 28, 2008
    I just lost a very long post so its time for me to take a break from this and so I will be back a little later or perhaps tomorrow?

    But before I go Stacey Peterson in the spirit world is not happy with Drews attitude as we have seen it on television.

    He said on television recently he has a new girlfriend and isn’t sure whether he will file for divorce or not.

    He also said recently when asked about the day of Stacys death that its just another day to him.

    How can you be so mean when you know you sealed her in tha big blue barrell and tossed her into the raging water because she was going to leave you and now you have Victim Number four on the leash if she doesn’t do exactly as you want your wives to do.

    Drew peterson has so far gotten away with killing his wife just as happens with many possessive men, but most of them are sorry for what they have done and usally confess by now.

    No one likes your crass attitude Drew Peterson and especially Stacey as she watches you play the suffering husband on earth with her children while you tell them and the world that she ran away with another man and you know that is a damned lie.
    Posted by SpiritChanneller at 1:44 AM

    http://spiritchanneller-beyondearth.blogspot.com/2008/11/most-men-who-kill-their-wives-dont.html

    Friday, November 28, 2008
    Most men who kill their wives don’t premeditate these murders, they kill them in a momentary rage.

    Some instead of being repentant and sad, and call medical help or the police, they instead dispose of the bodies like a bag of garbage and go on with their lives as if nothing happened and hope no one ever learns the truth.

    I am not talking about just one killer here I am talking about many and we all know who they are when the police move in and arrest them but in the meantime these men let people search, for days, weeks and sometimes months or years, and in a few rare cases the women are never found and the man walks free for lack of evidence but there is a higher power in the spirit world who has a camera trained on them on Earth and its called the Soul Records and he knows who you are and what you have done and he is not happy with you because he sees first hand the suffering of the souls that you have brutally sent to the after life before their time and he has everything you or anyone else does here on earth from the day you are born til the day you die and you may get away with these murders here on earth soemtimes but you will not excape dealing with this when you die because God is waiting for you.

    Its this record in the spirit world that tells me and ther psychic detectives who did it and where the body is and thats how I knew from the onslaught that Stacy Peterson had been put in a big blue barrell and disposed of in the water long before I read about that blue barrell in the news.

    I cannot pinpoint the location of the blue barrell any better than I have because of the things that Dr. Petas and my three realtives are doing tom e from inside my body in an effort to stop my work as a Psychic Detective.

    Now the four of them are two cowardly to leave my body because of a fear of what will happen to them when they leave my body and this is how vicious cowardly men like Dr. Petas and Drew Peterson and other violent men behave, they kill or injure and hide for fear of what will happen to them when they get caught and so I am waiting for Dr. Petas and my three realtives to come out of this body to see what their fate will be if they don’t come out and repent their sins and go in peace to the higher realms with the Guides who wait for them there.
    Posted by SpiritChanneller at 1:59 AM

  2. Wife and daughter will be doing some shopping today.

    Do we have any update if the GJ is done for the year and starting up in Jan?

  3. Another body(remains) found in Wisc…..

    Remains found by hunters in Brown County removed
    Authorities believe case is homicide
    Gannett Wisconsin Media • November 28, 2008

    TOWN OF MORRISON — Crime scene specialists from the State Crime Lab in Wausau removed human skeletal remains Thursday from a shallow grave in a remote and thickly wooded marsh in southeastern Brown County.

    Brown County Sheriff’s Capt. Jeff Sanborn said investigators consider the case a homicide, though it’s too early to tell the age or gender of the body or how the person died.

    “We did recover the skeletal remains of a human and a lot of it was still frozen in dirt,” Sanborn said.

    A group of hunters working through the swamp on the north side of County Z on Wednesday came upon a human skull sticking partially out of the ground. They called the sheriff’s department about 3:30 p.m.

    Sanborn said the hunters did everything right.

    “They marked the spot, called immediately, didn’t contaminate the scene — they did everything perfectly,” he said.

    The crime scene investigators and detectives from the Brown County Sheriff’s Department combed the land within 50 to 100 yards of the grave for about three hours on Thursday “in case any weapons might have been disposed, or anything like that,” Sanborn said.

    “We recovered it intact as it is. It is a complete skeleton. There appears to be some clothing that’s still intact. A lot of it is broken down because it has been here for some time.”

    Sanborn said the grave was shallow and the remains may have emerged due to heaving of the soil caused by cycles of freezing and thawing.

    The remains will be examined by Dr. Leslie Eisenberg, a forensic anthropologist who heads the state historical society’s burial sites preservation program, next week.

    Sanborn said detectives began building information on active missing persons cases on Wednesday evening.

    “We’d like to get closure for someone, even if it is a missing person that wasn’t a homicide,” Sanborn said. “We’d like to get closure for a family somewhere. It was somebody’s family member.”

  4. TOWN OF MORRISON — Crime scene specialists from the State Crime Lab in Wausau removed human skeletal remains Thursday from a shallow grave in a remote and thickly wooded marsh in southeastern Brown County.

    Brown County Sheriff’s Capt. Jeff Sanborn said investigators consider the case a homicide, though it’s too early to tell the age or gender of the body or how the person died.

    “We did recover the skeletal remains of a human and a lot of it was still frozen in dirt,” Sanborn said.

    A group of hunters working through the swamp on the north side of County Z on Wednesday came upon a human skull sticking partially out of the ground. They called the sheriff’s department about 3:30 p.m.

    Sanborn said the hunters did everything right.

    “They marked the spot, called immediately, didn’t contaminate the scene — they did everything perfectly,” he said.

    The crime scene investigators and detectives from the Brown County Sheriff’s Department combed the land within 50 to 100 yards of the grave for about three hours on Thursday “in case any weapons might have been disposed, or anything like that,” Sanborn said.

    “We recovered it intact as it is. It is a complete skeleton. There appears to be some clothing that’s still intact. A lot of it is broken down because it has been here for some time.”

    Sanborn said the grave was shallow and the remains may have emerged due to heaving of the soil caused by cycles of freezing and thawing.

    The remains will be examined by Dr. Leslie Eisenberg, a forensic anthropologist who heads the state historical society’s burial sites preservation program, next week.

    Sanborn said detectives began building information on active missing persons cases on Wednesday evening.

    “We’d like to get closure for someone, even if it is a missing person that wasn’t a homicide,” Sanborn said. “We’d like to get closure for a family somewhere. It was somebody’s family member.”

    IMO this will not be Stacy Peterson or Lisa Stebic. Stacy Peterson’s clothes would certainly not be very deteriorated (if at all), nor would Lisa Stebic’s. In addition, neither, if buried at or near the time of their respective disappearances, surface from cycles of freezing & thawing after just one and two seasons.

    But it does seem that people hunting seem a valuble tool in finding human remains. Previously I never paid much attention. But as of late I see they are turning up a fair amount.

  5. It seems like they find these remains and then you never hear anything else about them.This particular finding seems to be reaching beyond the state to include other missing people. The other reports on the latest 2 body’s found seem to be reaching out to Minnesota.
    I guess the interesting thing about these findings is that we can place Drew Peterson in Wisconsin days after Stacy went missing acoording to his account that he stored his bike up there during his 3 day head clearing trip.

  6. I’m thinking the chances of these bodies being Stacy Peterson are very remote. Think it’s a better chance as Lisa Stebic.

  7. If anything is found in Wisc. for Stacy Peterson, probably only passport or legal papers. That’s if these weren’t taken to Mexico when Steve and wife went down after Stacy went missing. Of course this just my opinion.

  8. I kind of agree with you Whitesoxfan. The last body seems to have been found up near Green Bay.This could be a trail of another serial killer.

  9. Here’s a follow-up artcle…..Family member has been missisng since 1992.

    Remains bring back hopes for closure
    Is Brown County body that of missing woman from Campbellsport?
    By Colleen Kottke • The Reporter • November 30, 2008
    MORRISON — For the second time this week, Jane Wilde has let her hopes inch upward.

    Last Wednesday, hunters in Brown County stumbled on a human skull, part of a third set of human remains found this hunting season. Hunters also found human remains in Dodge and Fond du Lac counties.

    The Brown and Fond du Lac county discoveries are being treated as homicides.

    Wilde, who is the grandmother of a missing Campbellsport woman Amber Wilde, says she’s trying to take the news of the discovery of yet another body with a grain of salt.

    After 10 years of leads going nowhere, the family has learned to roll with the punches.

    “At first, we used to get so excited when we heard they had found something. But the huge letdown afterward when we knew it wasn’t Amber would get to us,” Wilde said.

    Finding closure
    While Wilde knows the chance of the body being that of her granddaughter is slim, she knows that other family members with missing loved ones are also holding on to the same thread of hope.

    “We hope that some family will find closure with these latest discoveries,” Wilde said.

    Authorities from several counties have contacted Brown County authorities seeking to determine if there is a link between their missing persons cases and the skeleton found Wednesday in Morrison.

    Among those is a police department in Outagamie County interested in learning if the remains might be those of Laurie Depies, who has been missing from the Menasha area since Aug. 19, 1992.

    Other inquires have come from Manitowoc County, which provided details about a missing person in the area, and Fond du Lac County authorities, who are seeking to determine if there might be a connection about this case and a body found Nov. 22 about 17 miles south of Fond du Lac. The body of a woman was also discovered by hunters partially submerged in a frozen creek in a wooded area in the town of Ashford.

    Capt. Jeff Sanborn, head of the Brown County Sheriff’s Department’s investigation division, said it is too early to determine if the remains found Wednesday are connected to any of those cases.

    Some clothing intact
    Sanborn said the complete skeleton, with some clothing still intact, was found on the north side of County Trunk Z, which is in the southern part of Brown County.

    The body that is the focus of the Fond du Lac County Sheriff’s Department “Jane Doe” homicide investigation has been moved to Madison for study by a forensic anthropologist.

    Even after a decade, fliers proclaiming the disappearance of the brown-eyed, 19-year-old UW-Green Bay student are still posted in Jane Wilde’s yard. The 73-year-old said she never turns down an interview to talk about her missing granddaughter, saying the publicity helps to keep Amber in the public’s eye and memory.

  10. Turkey casserole????? Mmmmmmmm. NOT! I think that cutie of a dog would love that turkey casserole, heh, since you ate all the pie!

  11. Oke hmmm, since there is so much political unrest in Thailand, would Stacy the elusive dancer be having to contact the US Embassy over there to let them know she is safe or is she still hanging around local super markets ??

    Funny there haven’t been any sightings for a while.

    How could that be ??

  12. No sightings – because he’s moved onto another phase. Divorce. If she shows up, he gets nailed for Kathleen’s murder. If she doesn’t, he tries to prove she deserted him, he files for divorce and rights to all of the marital property, and he lives happily ever after.

    Notice when he gets on tv, he doesn’t say “come home, Stacy, the kids miss you, and they need you.” He merely says “show yourself.” Why? Because, if she came home, that would be the last thing he’d want. Too many obstacles for him if she did.

  13. Yes, he says: “show yourself” or “show your head”

    What a weird thing to say and even weirder on one occasion he barely surpressed laughter.

    Must have been a funny thought to him for Stacy to be able to “show herself”

  14. Just as a note on those bodies, I realized they were all 3 found in almost a perfect triangle from each other.I wonder if they may dub this murderer the triangle killer? I wonder now if it could be a diamond shape and there may be a fourth found in a pattern.Just some thoughts on it all.Just speculation.

  15. Givarat….oooh sounds like a job for a geographical profiler…..if they are related, look inthe middle of the triangle ;-)

  16. Monday, December 1, 2008
    Will The Holidays Lights Be On Or Off For Drew Peterson?

    Chicago Tribune’s Eric Zorn wrote a column about Drew Peterson and the new Illinois Hearsay Law.
    While I have great respect for Zorn, I disagree on why Peterson may not be charged under the new law. There is another way to bring Peterson to court and make the charges stick. When Kathleen Savio filed for the order of protection she placed her hand on a bible in a courtroom when granted the temporary order of protection. She also stated in this document that “if she died, it would be no accident”. Add in the fact that Harry Smith Kathleen’s divorce attorney was told of the abuse. And Stacy Peterson also sought advice from the same lawyer. The Crawford vs Washington Statue says the accused has the right to face his or her accuser, but there are exceptions to that law they could be applied in this case, if and when, the Will County State’s Attorney is able to charge Peterson.

    Another Option is The Will County State’s Attorney’s Office do not have a body, a confession or a witness in the potential homicide of Stacy Peterson. And no one in the State of Illinois since 1850, has ever been convicted of murder without a body.

    There is a similar case on which I base my remarks, Thomas York a Chicago Police Officer, knew enough that investigators and the State’s Attorney’s Office would not be able to charge him with the murder of his wife or his business partner in April of 1981.Why? As an officer he was trained not to leave evidence. As all good seasoned police are, trained not to leave a clue.To sustain the charge of mail fraud, the government must prove the following propositions:

    First, that the defendant knowingly participated in the scheme to defraud as described in the indictment.

    Second, that for the purpose of carrying out the scheme or attempting to do so, the defendant caused the United States Mails to be used in the manner charged in the particular count; and

    Third, that the defendant did so knowingly and with the intent to defraud.Here is the link to the case in which Thomas York received 40 years for mail fraud:http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/933/933.F2d.1343.89-3013.htmlThis in my opinion, based on research, Federal Prosecutors can charge Mr. Peterson with mail and insurance fraud.

    Kathleen Savio died a few weeks before she was to receive her settlement. Court documents and other related information not provided to the public regarding their divorce and the fact that Drew Peterson was already married and living a few houses away at the time, had motive.

    Add in the fact, Drew Peterson was a trained police officer, and a trained locksmith.

    Documents pertaining to insurance, correspondence and pleadings regarding the “accidental death ” of Kathleen Savio were also sent by United States mail. And that is where the feds come into this case. State’s Attorney Glascow must now look beyond a murder charge in this case. The statue for mail fraud and insurance is 5 years which comes due in February of 2009.

    For continuing coverage and updates visit Juror Thirteen.
    Posted by Susan Murphy Milano’s Journal at 05:07

  17. Drew Peterson to missing wife: ‘Show yourself’
    October 28, 2008 at 11:24 AM |

    Drew Peterson, the former Bolingbrook police sergeant whose fourth wife Stacy disappeared one year ago, reiterated his belief that she left voluntarily and said, “Show yourself. Put an end to this nightmare.”

    ***********

    All Peterson wants is to have Stacy, or her “look alike” pop up somewhere in another famous picture, so he can say, “see, she’s alive and well.” Now, give me my divorce, our marital assets, and let me be on my way.

    I don’t want her back, that would screw up everything. She’ll say I told her I killed Kathleen, she’ll say I abused her, she’ll be forever in my life because of our connection – we have children together. Nope, don’t want that. I don’t ever want her to come back. Only “show herself.”

  18. So SMM says stick him for insurance and/or mail fraud if they can’t get enough evidence for a murder charge, huh?

    Interesting.

  19. I guess that’s what Armstrong was meaning when he made a reference to there being more substance in the divorce settlement documents, heh?

    Mail fraud – that’ll give him something to think about and worry about. Bettcha he didn’t plan in advance for that minor detail, heh?

  20. Good Morning All,

    I live up here in the Green Bay area, if I hear anything on an ID on either of the bodies, you all will be the first to know. We have two missing women cases, Amber Wilde, (missing from UWGB 1998) and Laurie Depies, (missing from Appleton 1992) praying for closure for both their families.

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