Your Thread – December 2

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  1. Well, this is a start!

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/fbi-making-arrests-in-harvey.html

    Dozen arrested in Harvey cop corruption probe

    December 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM
    About a dozen people have been arrested in connection with a police corruption probe in the south suburbs, the U.S. attorney’s office said today.

    Earlier, other authorities said federal agents were making arrests in south suburban Harvey.

    Criminal charges and other details will be announced sometime after noon, and the defendants will make their initial court appearances before a U.S. magistrate beginning at 3 p.m., the U.S. attorney’s office said.

  2. Facs – The allegations and charges against these officers must all be made up, right? I mean, why would a police officer do something like that when they know they could lose their jobs and pension?

  3. Something I’ve noticed in the last week – the attorney that DPeterson conferred with, Leving, has now been doing commercials hawking his services for dads and their rights.

    Times are tough everywhere, I guess, even for “famous” attorneys. Gotta push your services any way you can.

    It just seems unusual that a high profile attorney, as he claims to be, now has to do commercials. Maybe he should write a book about his conference with Peterson. Everyone else is doing it, heh?

  4. I saw on another board the Mike Robinson was supposed to have some sort of hearing at the end of November.

    Does anyone know if it took place or if it was just given a continuance?

    I don’t even remember what it was for . . .

  5. Hiya!

    Wish we knew, noway. I couldn’t find any reports, and I don’t think anyone else did. Battery, witness intimidation :-)

  6. Is this upcoming stuff him?

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 12 16 8 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 3 Pretrial
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 12 16 8 404 930 08CF000098 0 INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL 1 Pretrial
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 12 16 8 404 930 08CF000098 0 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL 2 Pretrial
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 12 17 8 900 04F 000340 Hearing

  7. Robinson’s domestic battery charges and trial are sure a long time in the making! It was Jan ’08, I believe, that he was charged. Whatever happened to the speedy trial rights that are supposed to be available? Thought it was 120 days! This guy is coming up on a year. WTH?

  8. rescueapet // December 2, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Something I’ve noticed in the last week – the attorney that DPeterson conferred with, Leving, has now been doing commercials hawking his services for dads and their rights.

    Times are tough everywhere, I guess, even for “famous” attorneys. Gotta push your services any way you can.

    It just seems unusual that a high profile attorney, as he claims to be, now has to do commercials. Maybe he should write a book about his conference with Peterson. Everyone else is doing it, heh?

    ****

    I confess that on my sick days I sometimes watch shows like People’s Court, Judge Judy, Judge Mathis, Maury, etc. and I have seen commercials for this guy for years. I don’t think it is something new – I just think you may now recognize the name so it draws your attention more than it used to.

  9. Harvey:

    borders Blue Island to the North.

    Harvey:

    Crime and corruption

    The city recorded 12 homicides in 2005.

    In September 2006, the murder of a Metra police officer occurred in a lot adjacent to the 147th Street (Sibley Boulevard) station, the first in that agency’s history. A Metra Train in Ogilvie Transportation Center Metra (officially known as the Northeast Illinois Regional Commuter Railroad Corporation) is a regional rail system that serves the city of Chicago, Illinois, United States and surrounding cities, many of them Chicago suburbs. …

    The Harvey Police Department has come under scrutiny in recent years for misconduct and poor performance in closing murder cases. On January 24, 2007, Cook County Sheriff’s investigators and the Illinois State Police raided the Harvey police station to collect evidence from 5 years worth of unsolved gang crimes and other homicides. The decision was made to raid the police station after prosecutors began to inquire why Harvey police had not brought charges in many of the related cases. Harvey, a town of 30,000 residents, had 11 murders in 2006 and has been called “the murder capital of Southland.”[4] In 2005, a Harvey police detective was charged with intentionally returning a seized firearm to the gun’s owner (a convicted felon) who was later arrested for murder. According to prosecutors, the detective returned the firearm to the felon on orders from Harvey Mayor Eric Kellogg.

  10. rescueapet // December 2, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Robinson’s domestic battery charges and trial are sure a long time in the making! It was Jan ‘08, I believe, that he was charged. Whatever happened to the speedy trial rights that are supposed to be available? Thought it was 120 days! This guy is coming up on a year. WTH?

    ***

    I have a nephew who has gotten into some criminal legal troubles over the years (as a juvie and now an adult) and there are always continuances and more continuances and more continuances. In some cases pretty much no matter what you do they let you out and keep doing continuances until you pay off the whole fine you owe. Sometimes they have offered for him to attend outpatient counseling services instead of being jailed and then do the continuance to check in to make sure he is still seeking help. Sometimes when he shows he hasn’t signed up yet so they do a continuance a month or so down the line and ask him again the next time he gets there.

    The legal clock turns very slowly and inefficiently IMO.

  11. Back at ya, Rescue, and thanks Facs for the MR clarification……you suppose he’s on an anger management course, Think? lol

  12. Sorry Noway , I meant the Missouri river and the lake is Fort Peck. Still couldn’t find how to spell the word for the mountains that grow down there instead of up.

  13. Are you talking about a coulee? You told me to be careful about falling into one … ;)

    I looked, and Fort Peck is only 94 miles from Jordan.

  14. Another dirty cop brought to justice:

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/jury-convicts-ex-chicago-cop.html

    Ex-Chicago cop convicted of conspiracy

    December 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM
    Former Chicago police officer Mahmoud Shamah may not have been surprised by a guilty verdict in his federal corruption trial today, but the one-time tactical officer had hoped he would not get nailed with the most serious of his numerous charges — a conspiracy conviction.

    A jury found that Shamah, 29, had participated in a conspiracy to steal thousands of dollars from drug dealers. In a case that presented testimony that cops regularly carried crack to plant on suspects, paid informants for dubious information and even bribed a judge to approve an arrest warrant, Shamah was convicted on five of six counts.

    He will face as many as 20 years in federal prison when he is sentenced next year, authorities said.

    Along with his partner, Richard Doroniuk, Shamah was accused of raiding a storage locker and stealing $30,000 in 2006. The money had been placed there by the FBI as part of a sting operation in their investigation of the cops.

    After the verdict was handed down Tuesday, federal prosecutors asked for Shamah’s bail to be revoked, arguing he was a flight risk because of the lengthy sentence he faced. But U.S. District Judge Robert Gettleman allowed Shamah to remain free — with his parents posting their Burbank home as bond. Shamah’s family members sat quietly weeping after the verdict.

    The judge said Tuesday’s verdict was no surprise and if Shamah was going to flee, the judge believed he would have already done so.

    Prosecutors presented numerous pieces of evidence, including Doroniuk’s testimony. Shamah’s partner pleaded guilty to similar charges earlier, and then testified that officers routinely carried a little crack cocaine to plant on suspects when searches came up empty and stole cash from drug dealers during raids and traffic stops.

    They also routinely paid informants, falsified reports, lied in court and even kicked back cash to a judge for pushing through a bogus warrant, Doroniuk testified earlier in the trial.

    According to Doroniuk, it was easy to steal money when drug dealers had no idea how much cash they were carrying — and couldn’t complain to anyone, he said.

    Officers carried “insurance drugs” for the times when a suspect might swallow a bag or a search warrant came up empty, Doroniuk testified. Then what? Egan asked.

    “Plant it,” he answered in reference to the cocaine.

    –David Heinzmann

  15. What is up with mayors directing the police like a private army?

    You guys wondering who the bribed judge is? ….or did he just turn ‘em in for trying?

  16. Wouldn’t it be interesting if Ex-Chicago cop convicted of conspiracy, gets tied into someone in BB?????

  17. whitesoxfan // December 3, 2008 at 6:22 am

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if Ex-Chicago cop convicted of conspiracy, gets tied into someone in BB?????

    Ummmm, yeah. That would be like so intresting.

  18. Kathleen had things to say about Peterson’s work ethic before she died.

    Since she wrote letters and documented things, wonder if she left behind anything about Peterson that has come to light since then??
    **********************

    The True Crime Weblog
    The Disappearance of Stacy Peterson: What Kathleen Savio Said

    http://www.truecrimeweblog.com/2007_11_04_archive.html

    11/9/07 by True Crime Weblog Admin (Steve Huff)

    Kathleen also talked to friends and acquaintances about her troubled marriage.

    Requesting anonymity, one such friend has corresponded with The True Crime Weblog.

    Savio allegedly said these things to her friend in the fall of 2003.

    After Drew Peterson moved into a home up the street from the place he’d shared with Kathleen Savio, Kathleen was asked how her soon-to-be-ex could possibly afford two $200,000-plus homes on a police Sergeant’s salary.

    According to her friend, Kathleen smiled and said, “That’s a good question.” She wouldn’t elaborate any further on the question.

    According to the person who made the statement above, Drew Peterson was also investigated in the late 80s for “shaking down drug dealers for drugs” and money.

    Those charges were dismissed, due to lack of evidence.

    Drew Peterson’s late third wife allegedly had her own take on that: “Kathy said that no one would testify against him. Kathy told me that she knew a lot about him that could get him into trouble.” Kathleen Savio seemed to believe that Drew wasn’t the only one who’d been involved in the alleged illegal shakedowns.

  19. Now this is scary. Stallworth was the first person on the scene to discover a dead Metra Police Officer in 2006, near a train station in Harvey.
    ********

    Harvey cop allegedly suggested where to do drug deals
    SECRET TAPE | ‘Best spot . . . is the train station’

    December 3, 2008

    BY FRANK MAIN Staff Reporter/fmain@suntimes.com

    Archie Stallworth was secretly recorded telling an undercover FBI agent that restaurants are not good locations for drug deals because they’re watched by the police.

    “The best spot for ya’ll to do that, believe it or not, is the train station,” Stallworth allegedly said. “Fast-food places, that’s where we be looking.”

    Stallworth should know.

    He was a Harvey Police officer and a Metra conductor. Now he’s lost both of those jobs after being charged in a federal drug conspiracy with 14 other law enforcement officers.

    Stallworth, a conductor on the Electric District Line since 1996, was fired Tuesday after the charges were announced.

    Stallworth resigned from the Harvey Police Department last week.

    Stallworth, 36, was the first Harvey Police officer to reach Metra Police Officer Thomas Cook after he was shot to death in 2006 near the 147th Street Metra station in Harvey.

    Stallworth declined to comment.

  20. Rescue, that article kind of makes you wonder if they officer got there before or after the shots were fired.

  21. TAI – yes, that is the most troubling thing in all of this. Yeah, the greed and money part is awful, but this revelation makes me sick. What if?

  22. There will always be the bad apple dirty cops in the force that ruin it for the majority of them that are in it for the right reasons and are good people. It is even more messed up though when those bad apples start wearing more stripes. It is like trusting the wolf to watch over the hen house.

  23. And here is a refresher course on the Drew Peterson, good cop/bad cop scenario:

    11/21/2007

    Ill. sergeant suspected of murder resigns

    By Matthew Walberg, Jo Napolitano and Josh Noel
    Chicago Tribune

    BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson “brought shame” to his department, his chief said Tuesday after the village’s Police Board, which had no choice, accepted Peterson’s resignation.

    Chief Ray McGury filed a complaint with the Bolingbrook Fire and Police Commission Nov. 14 seeking disciplinary action against Peterson, who had been suspended without pay pending an internal investigation.

    Peterson turned in a resignation letter Nov. 12, but McGury refused to accept it, wanting him held accountable for the internal investigation’s findings.

    “The board recognizes the seriousness of the charges presented by the chief,” commission attorney Kathleen Elliott said, reading a statement. “Unfortunately, the board is without jurisdiction. … Peterson’s resignation was effective immediately when tendered, and therefore he is no longer a member of the Police Department and no longer subject to the jurisdiction of the board.”

    continued …….

    http://www.policeone.com/investigations/articles/1630712-Ill-sergeant-suspected-of-murder-resigns/

  24. oh, and let’s not forget:

    On Tuesday, the Tribune learned that Harvey police officer Marcus Patterson also appeared before that grand jury Nov. 7. Patterson, 34, was a Bolingbrook police officer from October 1999 to April 2002 and worked on the department’s Gang Suppression Unit, headed by Drew Peterson, Lt. Ken Teppel said.

    Patterson declined to comment on what he told the grand jury.

  25. February 16, 2008
    By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer

    A convicted cop killer reputed to have organized crime connections was subpoenaed to testify at the grand jury investigating the fate of Drew Peterson’s last two wives. State police served Anthony “Bindy” Rock, 68, with his papers Friday, a source said. Contacted Friday night, Rock declined to comment.

    Rock was a central figure in an unsanctioned undercover investigation Peterson undertook while he was on loan from the Bolingbrook Police Department to the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad in 1985. That investigation led to Peterson’s indictment on charges of official misconduct and failure to report a bribe.

    Peterson was fired following his indictment when the Bolingbrook Police and Fire Commission found him guilty of those charges, as well as disobedience and conducting a self-assigned investigation.

    On different occasions, two appellate court judges ruled Peterson’s firing was excessive. The criminal charges against him were dropped and he got his job back.

    Narcotics probe
    Peterson’s trouble from two decades ago started when he revealed to his supervisors that he’d embarked on a solo narcotics investigation of Rock. A state police undercover officer was already working on Rock, according to court documents, but Peterson went ahead with his probe and failed to tell his superiors until it hit a dead end. “You had better take your guns off. I have something to say that’s real bad,” Peterson allegedly told his supervisors at the time.

    And Peterson’s former supervisor with the narcotics squad, retired state police Lt. Col. Ronald Janota accused Peterson of leaking the
    state agent’s identity to Rock.

  26. Patterson appeared before the GJ within a couple of weeks of Stacy Peterson’s disappearance. What does him working with Drew Peterson between Oct’99 and April ’02 got to do with Kathleen’s homicide investigation and Stacy’s disappearance/presumed homcide? Where and why did his name come up so quickly in the early investigation?

  27. Jeffrey Leving has been doing his radio Fathers Rights ads on WLUP 97.9 Chicago for years and years and years.

    He’s a good man and a terrific attorney.

  28. Wonder if past cases of Drew Peterson’s were investigated, and if anything was uncovered that could lead to formal charges against him. Ya just never know. Maybe he will keep Brodsky & Co. busy after all.

    **************

    Drew Peterson was suspended in September for a “serious lack of judgment” in a police pursuit, McGury said. Asked if Peterson was a good officer, McGury said: “Drew Peterson came to work, did his job and went home. Drew Peterson left the department not in good standing.”

  29. Anyone know which this was? Was it the abuse of private records?
    *******************************

    MCGURY: …I know that Sergeant Peterson has discussed a recent discipline that he got. And I can’t go into specifics. I can tell you that I disciplined him for a policy violation back in September that has absolutely nothing to do with any type of allegations of domestic violence, domestic abuse. It is totally a policy violation. And as a supervisor, I hold supervisors to a higher standard, so he was given discipline based upon an error in judgment.

  30. Hearsay evidence???

    Nov 9, 2007 8:00 pm US/Eastern
    Police Name Cop As Suspect In Wife’s Disappearance
    Stacy Peterson Disappearance Called Homicide

    http://kdka.com/national/kathleen.savio.autopsy.2.564524.html

    ***********************

    “Early on, we looked at this as a missing persons case, but also believed strongly that based on the (Kathleen) Savio investigation (into the death of Drew Peterson’s third wife) and the information that we were gleaning within the first 24 hours of the missing persons case with Stacy, was starting to strongly point to Drew Peterson being a person of interest,” Dobrich said. “I would say that right now, Drew Peterson has gone from being a person of interest to clearly being a suspect.”

    Dobrich hinted that evidence was found in the recent searches of the Peterson house, perhaps computer evidence which is changing the nature of this case.

  31. Facs, I think he’s referring to the looking up records thing, because he says there about holding him to higher standards…..there was another incident of a car chase, though.

  32. rescueapet // December 3, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    oh, and let’s not forget:

    On Tuesday, the Tribune learned that Harvey police officer Marcus Patterson also appeared before that grand jury Nov. 7. Patterson, 34, was a Bolingbrook police officer from October 1999 to April 2002 and worked on the department’s Gang Suppression Unit, headed by Drew Peterson, Lt. Ken Teppel said.

    Patterson declined to comment on what he told the grand jury.

    ***

    Does anyone know if this Patterson guy is one of the 15 officers that is in trouble in Harvey right now? I haven’t seen a list of names of all of the officers out there.

  33. TAI – no, he’s not one of the named officers from Harvey.

    I just find it curious that he was called before the GJ almost right after the GJ started hearing evidence in the Savio/Peterson matters. Like, his name dropped out of the sky or something. What has Patterson got to do with either woman’s death/disappearance? Where and how did his name come up is what I’m asking and wondering.

  34. I’m not sure where his name came up either but I’d guess that was around the time that he was in trouble for his rogue investigation right?

    I was just letting my imagination stretch a little too far.

  35. Drew has been a cop for 29 years.

    If he was a crooked cop for most of the time, that makes him a crooked cop for a long time with LOTS of potential for illegal activities and corruption !

  36. facsmiley // December 3, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Anyone know which this was? Was it the abuse of private records?
    *******************************

    MCGURY: …I know that Sergeant Peterson has discussed a recent discipline that he got. And I can’t go into specifics. I can tell you that I disciplined him for a policy violation back in September that has absolutely nothing to do with any type of allegations of domestic violence, domestic abuse. It is totally a policy violation. And as a supervisor, I hold supervisors to a higher standard, so he was given discipline based upon an error in judgment.

    +++++++++++++++

    Drew gave orders for a car chase whilst Bolingbrook has a “no chase” policy.

    That was what Chief McGury wanted to discipline him for back in September 2007.

  37. Closure for family in Morrison WI….

    Update: Remains are missing Allouez woman, Areerat Chuprevich
    Gannett Wisconsin Media • December 3, 2008

    The remains found in a shallow grave in Morrison are the body of Areerat Chuprevich, a 32-year-old Allouez woman missing since April 2003, a source close to the investigation confirmed today.

    Chuprevich’s partially buried skeleton was found a week ago near Brown County Z and Brown County NN in Morrison. Detectives removed the bones – surrounded by frozen soil – and took all the material to the state crime lab in Madison for analysis by a forensic pathologist.

    Sheriff’s investigators have planned a press conference for 10:30 a.m. today to discuss details of the case.

    Thomas Chuprevich reported his wife missing April 28, 2003. Areerat Chuprevich’s Jeep Liberty was found April 28, 2003 locked and parked in the lot of St. Michael’s Pub on Riverside Drive in Allouez, a few blocks from the Mariner Motel where she lived with her husband.

    Described as a quiet, hardworking woman trying to learn English, Chuprevich didn’t frequent bars.

    Thomas Chuprevich said he last saw his wife about noon on April 26, 2003 when he left for a weekend trip to northern Wisconsin. He returned the next day and was unable to find his wife.

    According to search warrant documents filed since her disappearance, Areerat Chuprevich was chatting with her sister online on April 26, 2003, when she abruptly stopped using the computer.

    Chuprevich’s sister called Chuprevich at home a short time later, but she did not answer the phone, according to the warrant documents in which investigators characterized their probe as a homicide investigation.

    Chuprevich, a native of Thailand, was enrolled at St. Norbert College when she disappeared. She was studying English and business administration.

    The man authorities identified as the prime suspect in her disappearance – 41-year-old Karl McLeod – hanged himself in May 15, 2006 while an inmate at the secure Wisconsin Resource Center where he was serving a 10-year prison for an unrelated beating case.

    At McLeod’s December 2004 trial, Brown County District Attorney John Zakowski said information developed during the Chuprevich investigation linked McLeod to the beating of a woman outside her Hazel Street home.

    Investigators know that McLeod spent time at Chuprevich’s house and used her computer, Zakowski said.

    A search warrant and affidavit filed in August 2003 revealed that detectives searched McLeod’s home and seized McLeod’s pickup from the farm and a computer from the home of Karl McLeod’s friend.

  38. Fond du Lac County Body Still a Jane Doe

    Updated: Dec 3, 2008 06:41 PM
    Fond du Lac County Still has a Jane Doe

    As the identification of a body found in Brown County gives new momentum to a murder investigation there, authorities in Fond du Lac County still don’t know the identity of a body hunters discovered there nearly two weeks ago.

    All the sheriff’s department will tell us right now is that the body found in the southern part of the county is a teen-aged or young adult white woman.

    At this point Fond du Lac County detectives still don’t know who was “dumped” — their word — in the woods. In fact, much of the mystery is being unraveled by scientists, trying to determine age, height, cause of death, and even how long the body was there.

    The discovery continues to generate a lot of calls. At least 18 investigative agencies have contacted them, including a phone call from Illinois State Police looking for Stacy Peterson.

    The 23-year-old disappeared last year. Her husband, former police sergeant Drew Peterson, is a suspect in the case, which police have labeled a “potential homicide.”

    “They had exchanged some information about what we had compared to what they had,” Fond du Lac County Sheriff Mick Fink said.

    But Sheriff Fink doesn’t feel the body found in their county is Stacy Peterson.

    “At this point there’s also a possibility — but the probability isn’t good at this point,” he said. “We’ll know more as we go through the stages of this investigation.”

    It is an investigation they expect will take a while.

    “We’ll resort to whatever we need to do to try to identify this girl,” Fink said.

  39. http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=9454577

    Fond du Lac County Body Still a Jane Doe
    Updated: Dec 3, 2008 06:41 PM CST

    As the identification of a body found in Brown County gives new momentum to a murder investigation there, authorities in Fond du Lac County still don’t know the identity of a body hunters discovered there nearly two weeks ago.

    All the sheriff’s department will tell us right now is that the body found in the southern part of the county is a teen-aged or young adult white woman.

    At this point Fond du Lac County detectives still don’t know who was “dumped” — their word — in the woods. In fact, much of the mystery is being unraveled by scientists, trying to determine age, height, cause of death, and even how long the body was there.

    The discovery continues to generate a lot of calls. At least 18 investigative agencies have contacted them, including a phone call from Illinois State Police looking for Stacy Peterson.

    The 23-year-old disappeared last year. Her husband, former police sergeant Drew Peterson, is a suspect in the case, which police have labeled a “potential homicide.”

    “They had exchanged some information about what we had compared to what they had,” Fond du Lac County Sheriff Mick Fink said.

    But Sheriff Fink doesn’t feel the body found in their county is Stacy Peterson.

    “At this point there’s also a possibility — but the probability isn’t good at this point,” he said. “We’ll know more as we go through the stages of this investigation.”

    It is an investigation they expect will take a while.

    “We’ll resort to whatever we need to do to try to identify this girl,” Fink said.

  40. I don’t know about that, but if there’s any merit to Armstrong’s “confidential source'” Mary Ponterelli will meet with Glasgow today.

    A key witness in the case against Drew Peterson in the alleged homicide of his third wife Kathleen Savio will meet with prosecutor James Glasgow next Thursday, a confidential source told this reporter.

    Mary Ponterelli was the first person on scene after Savio’s death was reported and James Glasgow will meet with her personally on Dec. 4.

    Of course, keep in mind that this same source indicated that Glasgow would be meeting with “the families of Kathleen Savio and Stacy Peterson” as early as 11/24 and there’s been no confirmation of that having taken place.

  41. I believe Mr. Armstrong is similar to what we know as fortune tellers. Throw a bunch of stuff out there, especially if you think it can fit, and see what comes of it.

    Like – an arrest is coming soon (we all kind of drew that conclusion from the last statement from Glasgow).

    As to Glasgow meeting with Mary, maybe there IS someone feeding tidbits to the defense, and Glasgow let out false information to see if he can figure out who it is. Anything’s possible, heh? Why would any “inside” source let out information to Armstrong, who just happened upon this whole case just to write a book at the behest of the suspect? That defies log.

    I don’t put any faith into what Armstrong comes out with. He’s too flighty.

  42. One thing I’ll grant to Armstrong – he does have a creepy tenacity.

    Maybe he offers some form of compensation in exchange for rumors. Pony rides?

  43. Hey, what’s lighter than a pony ride?

    Funny ad, but I think I’d rather spend some time with Mr. 808 than pull a fast one on that poor man sitting at the bar. Mr. 808 is cute !

  44. Armstrong claims to be an investigative reporter, a former PI, and stands to make money with any rising book sales. One would have to be a pumpkin that just fell off the truck to think he is passing out information just to keep the public informed. He uses the same PR agency that Peterson does, and I would have a hard time believing that local reporters wouldn’t have any access to the “inside” information he does. Why aren’t they, in fact, reporting the same thing, unless he’s more apt to have printed anything, whether he can verify it or not. Not to mention that he must go through his paid PR agency to get this info out, which, in turn, is sent to the media outlets. Marketing?????????

  45. You have a good point, Rescue. “Real” reporters won’t publish rumors from sources that can’t be verified. If there was anything to his latest report, we would have been hearing about it from legitimate media outlets , and we have not.

    However, he may operate more on the National Enquirer model. Publish rumors as if they are fact and then see how it all pans out. Really, he has nothing to lose. It’s not like he has a legitimate journalism career at risk. He’s not even employed by any news agency. It’s just him.

    If the meetings do take place, expect another self-congratulatory press release to follow. If the meetings don’t occur…it will be all-quiet on the Armstrong front.

  46. Well, I have news for Mr. Armstrong. Even State’s Attorney Glasgow has not positively said that Drew Peterson would be arrested soon. In fact, his exact words were, from 11/20/2008:

    Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow has indicated that he expects “resolution” in at least one of the cases soon.

    His statement doesn’t say an arrest of Peterson or anyone else, for that matter, will be soon. He merely said “resolution.” Very carefully chosen words. Only Armstrong and his “inside” sources have said he believes an arrest is coming soon. Something like what Geraldo said would happen in August.

  47. Noway – yes, Armstrong has his audience waiting anxiously to hear what his inside source has told him, which, in turn, he tells us – that Glasgow is meeting with Mary today.

    There’s a few informants that share their “inside” information with all of us, all of which come straight from the defense. :)

  48. This is nothing new from what yesterday’s reports said – the Sun Times just seemed to abstract what the Sheriff said:

    Sheriff: Wis. remains unlikely Stacy Peterson

    December 4, 2008
    FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRES

    FOND DU LAC, Wis.—- The Fond du Lac County sheriff says the body found there by hunters nearly two weeks ago is probably not the remains of a suburban Chicago policeman’s missing wife.

    Sheriff Mick Fink says the chances are very slim that the remains are 23-year-old Stacy Peterson of Bolingbrook, Illinois, who vanished about a year ago. But he says detectives from there have called to compare notes.

    Peterson’s husband, 54-year-old Drew Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is a suspect in his wife’s disappearance. He has not been charged and has repeatedly said he thinks his wife ran off with another man and is alive.

    Fink says at least 18 police agencies have contacted his department to inquire about the remains but there are no good leads on the woman’s identity.

  49. Chicago NBC will have a report on 6pm news about ISP calling in Wisconsin police sheriff. made commnet about Stacy Peterson.

    More to come.

  50. They just had the same report as rescue posted. Once again got excited over nothing. Maybe they will check on Lisa Stebic.

  51. whitesoxfan // December 4, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Chicago NBC will have a report on 6pm news about ISP calling in Wisconsin police sheriff. made commnet about Stacy Peterson.

    More to come.

    whitesoxfan // December 4, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    They just had the same report as rescue posted. Once again got excited over nothing. Maybe they will check on Lisa Stebic.

    How suprising. Wasn’t it already said by LE that is was almost certainly not Stacy Peterson? But the if they can pull the viewers in (even with some fantasy) they’ll do it.

    And someone posted something about “real” reporters not publish things that can’t be verified. Well this whole case from the very start has swirled around things that were not verified.

    All sorts of things people seem to know about LEs investigation like the ISP puts out a weekly update of their details.

  52. That’s right State Attorney James Glasgow never said anything about Drew being arrested soon and neither has he ever said Drew will be arrested as soon as the Hearsay Law is passed.

    That’s just what everybody likes to think he said ………

  53. bucketoftea // December 4, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Alas, a lot is verified and very very ugly it is, too.

    ++++++++++++++

    I agree and once the truth will be revealed it will be ugly beyond belief.

  54. However I am quietly wondering if Drews gasbagging on the Lenny/Paula tapes has anything to do with the multiple arrests in Harvey.

    I’m not saying it opened a new investigation as the officers in question may have already been under investigation for quite some time, but it may have given investigators a few more dots to connect ………

  55. Well, instead of the main stream media reporting on “Glasgow’s meeting with Mary” (yeah, right), they’re teasing about officials asking about a body found in Wisconsin.

    Lie detector tests, clandestine meetings with Peterson, reports of Peterson meeting with a divorce attorney, reports of SA meeting with witnesses, Peterson close to being arrested – these are all sensational utterings of a book author who needs to bump up his sales to make money. Bah. He’s full of baloney!

  56. Oh, how could I forget – Glasgow, according to Armstrong, was to be meeting with the families of the victims soon. Yeah, wouldn’t ANYONE expect him to do so on an occasional basis to let them know that his office is on top of things? Duh.

  57. Robin Sax joins Dana Pretzer host of Scared Monkeys radio on Friday December 5, 2008 at 9PM Eastern Standard.

    The show will be filled with fireworks . Dana’s other guests include Drew Peterson, Mark Geragos and my favorite Legal Marshmallow Roaster.

    Also on the show Dana will discuss the Joshua Whittier case with Mom, Melody Schmitt.

    To Listen Live Go to: http://www.scaredmonekysradio.com/

    http://justiceinterrupted.blogspot.com/2008/12/scared-monkeys-radio-friday-1252008.html

  58. Is he appearing solo?
    …. this time he’s contributing as a pundit?….perhaps as a lock-picking expert…

  59. Some more about HARVEY and the Officer that was killed there:

    Metra cop slain at Harvey station
    South suburban commuters say Harvey depot is woefully unsafe
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    September 29, 2006

    BY FRANK MAIN, ANNIE SWEENEY, STEVE PATTERSON AND MONIFA THOMAS Staff Reporters
    Cook County Deputy Sheriff Robert Cook steeled himself when he heard that his younger brother — a Metra police officer — had been shot to death at a train stop in Harvey on Wednesday night.

    Cook drove to the murder scene and asked to see the body.

    “I went to my brother,” Cook said quietly. “When they put him in the ambulance, I gave him a kiss and said goodbye.”

    » Click to enlarge image

    Metra officer Thomas Cook (inset), a married father of two, was found slumped over the wheel of his squad car Wednesday night.
    (Jean Lachat/Sun-Times)

    RELATED STORIES
    Victim thought job would be safer

    Thomas Cook, 43, a married father of two and the son of a retired Riverdale police chief, became Metra’s first officer to be killed in the line of duty.

    3 loud bangs
    About 9 p.m. Wednesday, police found him slumped over the steering wheel of his marked squad car with a bullet wound in the left side of his head and his SIG-Sauer service handgun missing, authorities said. The driver-side window was rolled down about 3 inches.
    Residents taking out their trash said they heard three loud bangs and saw people run from the squad car. One resident said he called 911 after he yelled to see whether Cook was OK and did not get a response.

    ‘I never feel safe’
    Police did not find any weapons or bullet casings at the murder scene, and the car was undamaged, officials said.
    Investigators took several people into custody for questioning, but no one was arrested Thursday, sources said. Officers were canvassing the neighborhood door-to-door and used a bloodhound to search the scene.

    The slaying took place in the 300 block of East 147th Place across the street from the Metra Electric Line station at 147th and Clinton, which commuters said they fear because of reports of crime there.

    “I never feel safe,” said Michelle Whitehead of Glenwood, pointing to a fellow male commuter who walks her and other women to their cars at night. “If he’s not around, I’m walking out to my car in the dark, looking around, under my car before I get in.”

    Metra offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the gunman. The murder is being investigated by a task force including the Illinois State Police, Harvey police and other south suburban departments.

    Cook, of Dyer, Ind., had been an officer with the approximately 90-officer Metra Police Department since February 2003. Before that, he worked for the Riverdale Police Department for about nine years, Metra spokeswoman Judy Pardonnet said. He left Riverdale to work in less-dangerous situations, according to those who knew him.

    “He was looking for greener pastures,” his brother said.

    Their father, Charles Cook, was chief of the Riverdale police from 1948 to 1970. After suffering a heart attack, he returned to the department as a captain and retired in 1979. He died in 1985.

    Thomas Cook normally patrolled the Blue Island branch of the Electric Line — not the Harvey branch. He was working overtime Wednesday, his brother said.

    “He never said anything about working in a tough area,” Robert Cook said. “He just did it.”

    Metra commuters at the Harvey station have long been complaining about rising crime on the platform and around the parking lot, which is controlled by the City of Harvey.

    Warning signs ripped down
    Metra put up cardboard signs announcing a rash of robberies on the Harvey platform, though many of the signs were ripped down and defaced.
    The signs indicated there would be an increased police presence, but for weeks afterward, there were no officers, commuters said.

    In May, the Metra Police Department boosted patrols at Harvey and other south suburban stations because of an increase in violent crimes ranging from assault to strong-arm robberies, Metra officials said.

    Recently, an officer would be seen on the platform or in his car nearby, offering a smile to passing commuters.

    Still, about two weeks ago, a commuter put up her own hand-made sign, urging other commuters to contact Harvey police about cars being broken into, commuters being harassed and robberies on the platform.

    That sign was ripped down, too.

    ‘I’m just praying’
    The station has no manned ticket office, and Harvey operates a cash window for parking only in the morning hours. That leaves commuters feeling vulnerable.
    Paulette Adams of Lansing said trains on multiple tracks around the platform often block the view from the street, making waiting commuters easy marks.

    “When I’m alone, I’m just praying,” Adams said.

    Floodlights installed
    U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. has called for the State Police and Cook County sheriff’s office to take over policing in Harvey, saying shoddy policing is putting citizens at risk. But Mayor Eric Kellogg insists he is doing a good job fighting crime.
    Thursday night, about a dozen officers were at the Harvey station, handing out information about the reward and informing commuters about the shooting.

    The normally dimly lit stop had also been upgraded with seven floodlights.

    Contributing: Eric Herman

  60. More about Officer Cook and the circumstances of his death:

    Police Officer Thomas Alan Cook
    Metra Police Department
    Illinois
    End of Watch: Wednesday, September 27, 2006

    Biographical Info
    Age: 43
    Tour of Duty: 12 years
    Badge Number: 976

    Incident Details
    Cause of Death: Gunfire
    Date of Incident: Wednesday, September 27, 2006
    Weapon Used: Gun; Unknown type
    Suspect Info: Not available

    Officer Thomas A. Cook was shot and killed while sitting in his patrol car across the street from the Metra Electric Line station at 147th and Clinton Streets in Harvey, Illinois.

    Officer Cook was conducting surveillance on the station, which had seen a recent surge in armed robberies.

    Officer Cook was a US Army veteran. He had served with the Metra Transit Police Department for 3 years and previously served with the Riverdale Police Department for 9 years.

    Officer Cook is survived by his wife, son, daughter, mother, brother, and sister. His brother serves with the Cook County Sheriff’s Office and his father served as chief of the Riverdale Police Department.

  61. noway406 // December 4, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Robin Sax joins Dana Pretzer host of Scared Monkeys radio on Friday December 5, 2008 at 9PM Eastern Standard.

    The show will be filled with fireworks . Dana’s other guests include Drew Peterson, Mark Geragos and my favorite Legal Marshmallow Roaster.

    Also on the show Dana will discuss the Joshua Whittier case with Mom, Melody Schmitt.

    To Listen Live Go to: http://www.scaredmonekysradio.com/

    http://justiceinterrupted.blogspot.com/2008/12/scared-monkeys-radio-friday-1252008.html

    bucketoftea // December 5, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Is he appearing solo?
    …. this time he’s contributing as a pundit?….perhaps as a lock-picking expert…

    bucketoftea // December 5, 2008 at 3:45 am

    …or is he with Geragos?

    __________________
    From Wikipedia …

    Mark John Geragos (born October 5, 1957) is an American criminal defense attorney best known for defending pop-star Michael Jackson, actress Winona Ryder, Gary Condit, and Susan McDougal, who was involved in the Whitewater scandal. He also represented Scott Peterson, in another trial that received widespread media attention.[1] He’s currently representing Paul and Kuhlbir Dhaliwal, two brothers injured after a tiger escaped in San Francisco Zoo.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Geragos

    I don’t know. I didn’t think Geragos was his attorney… There was no mention about Joel being there … but maybe they are a package deal.

  62. Maybe Geragos will have something to say again about Drew Peterson’s media loving abilities. Funny, Geragos says media interviews pose a hazard, yet, here again is the media craving Peterson. With Geragos, no less. Funny.

    Lawyers: Drew Peterson on TV a bad idea

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2007-11-22-2799115018_x.htm

    Excerpt……..

    Prosecutors also are listening, waiting for Peterson to slip and make a statement that doesn’t jibe with what he’s said before, defense attorneys say.

    “You should be very careful (because) the next time you watch, you could be sitting in the defendant’s chair,” said Mark Geragos, who represented Scott Peterson, the California man convicted of killing his pregnant wife, Laci.

    Three interviews Scott Peterson gave before he retained Geragos were played in open court.

    Scott Peterson’s own words in those taped interviews and taped conversations did him in, Geragos said.

    Defense attorney Gerry Spence agrees.

    “They never even proved a murder in that case,” Spence said of Scott Peterson. “The thing he did do was cheat on his wife. He got the death penalty for proof that he cheated on his wife.”

    Geragos said media interviews pose another hazard.

    “If they find (Stacy Peterson) and she’s dead and she was dead at the time the interview was done … those things look awful. Whether (Drew Peterson) had anything to do with it, it looks awful,” Geragos said.

  63. Geragos said media interviews pose another hazard.

    “If they find (Stacy Peterson) and she’s dead and she was dead at the time the interview was done … those things look awful. Whether (Drew Peterson) had anything to do with it, it looks awful,” Geragos said.

    ***

    I never thought I’d agree with Geragos but this is my sentiment EXACTLY. Every time Drew does an interview and says very bad things about her it just crawls up my skin. It is a tactic that some people use to try to prove their innocence that backfires by making them look heartless.

    Seriously. His lack of concern or worry is one of the things that makes him appear guilty to me. My thought is that if he was not involved in her disappearance he may have expressed anger at first but then it would change over to worry rather than desire to move on with his life.

    Seriously – What if she was abducted by someone else who forced her to make that call?? Why does he so quickly accept that she would just walk away from her children when the one nice thing that he does say about her was that she was a great mom? Why would she just walk away from all of her jewelry, clothing, possessions, and a nice divorce settlement if she was as materialistic and needing so many repairs as he says she was?? It doesn’t add up.

  64. I just thought of something: Maybe Joel will be there, silently pinching Drew if he tries to say something he shouldn’t.

  65. Yeah, the ‘marshmallow roaster’ is Joel…

    http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2008/04/drew-peterson-camp-marshmallow-day-168.html

    Wednesday, April 16, 2008
    Drew Peterson: Camp Mashmallow: Day #168

    Today, marks one hundred and sixty-eight days since the loving Mother and wife of former Bolingbrook seasoned Veteran crime fighter vanished.

    On day, one hundred and sixty three, the country watched as Mr. Peterson and his legal marshmallow roaster made an appearance on Larry King. A well rehearsed and scripted show was no surprise. The public relations team did an excellent job with Mr. Peterson.
    Coaching pre-scripted and rehearsed responses…

  66. Interesting that “Police did not find any weapons or bullet casings ” at Cook’s death scene.

    Most thugs don’t stop to gather up casings.

  67. http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/

    The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio – Listen LIVE Tonight At 9PM Eastern –

    “Are Defense Attorneys Monsters, Or Are They Just Doing Their Job?”

    December 5th, 2008

    Tonight, Dana welcomes the lawyers of some of American society’s most deplorable public figures – at least according to the media.

    Attorney Joel Brodsky (regarding client Drew Peterson)
    Attorney Mark Geragos (regarding client Scott Peterson)
    Attorney Joe Tacopina (regarding client Joran Van der Sloot)
    Assistant District Attorney for Los Angeles County, Robin Sax
    ***************

    But it looks as if Drew is not one of the guests.

  68. Hi Think….Of course it doesn’t add up…..like DP and JB pouring scorn on the new autopsies… how completely stupid to argue with scientific findings and especially without having examined them. Why would an innocent do such a thing? and all his behaviour since….it is normal….for a narcissistic lying murderer.

  69. oooh facs! I can’t believe the line-up of slimeballs.

    Wonder how JB sees himself in relation to his fellow guest attorneys? What he pictured all along? (I’m thinking the way he characterised DP as being like Robert Blake and OJ)

    I’d like to ask Geragos what he thinks now, seeing as they found Scott’s wife and baby’s bodies in the sea.

  70. Bucket – I had thought the bodies were found before the trial so Geragos knew about that when he was representing Scott Peterson.

  71. I think I mostly object to an undignified defense. By that I mean childish, scattergun deny-and- lie, grandstanding.

  72. It takes a certain type of person to be a (good) defense attorney.

    I found it interesting when Joel said that he wasn’t interested so much in proving a client’s innocence as he was in exposing missteps by the prosecution.

  73. So…I take it there’s been no reports to confirm Armstrong’s story about meetings by Glasgow with family members and Mary Ponterelli?

  74. I guess I’d just like him to either confirm, retract, or tell us that his crystal ball is in the shop for repairs.

  75. http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/feds-raid-harvey-police-department.html

    Feds raid Harvey Police Department
    December 5, 2008 at 11:54 AM

    Federal agents descended on the embattled Harvey Police Department about 9 a.m. and were still on scene several hours later, an FBI spokesman said.

    The agents arrived to “execute a search warrant as part of an ongoing federal investigation,” FBI spokesman Ross Rice said.

    About 11 a.m., an FBI agent and a Cook County sheriff’s deputy stood guard at the front of the Harvey station, telling the public it is closed except for emergencies.

    Two FBI agents sat in a car behind the station blocking an entrance to the station’s underground entrance.

    Rice would not say whether the action was connected to the charges announced earlier this week against four Harvey police officers and 11 other law-enforcement officers accused of serving as security for large-scale drug deals.

    He said this morning’s action did not include any new arrests.

    –Matthew Walberg

  76. facsmiley // December 5, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Interesting that “Police did not find any weapons or bullet casings ” at Cook’s death scene.

    Most thugs don’t stop to gather up casings.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes, these are very worrying stories.

    The police officer in question was sitting in his patrol car when he was shot.

    His SIG-Sauer service handgun went missing.

    No bullet casings were found.

    Has all the hallmarks of an assassination !!

  77. facsmiley // December 5, 2008 at 10:47 am

    “…my favorite Legal Marshmallow Roaster.” I believe this is Joel. Susan Murphy Milano has called him that.

    http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2008/10/drew-peterson-and-legal-roaster-lip.html

    ___________
    I wondered what a Legal Marshmallow Roaster was, and planned to ask Rescue when I came back!

    I see she refers to his PR firm as Camp (Sticky) Marshmallow …

    http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:noU-N-jnsgoJ:murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2008/03/drew-peterson-camp-sticky-marshmallow_31.html+legal+marshmallow+roaster&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

  78. The original courtroom drama

    AP – O.J. Simpson appears in court during his sentencing hearing at the Clark County Regional Justice Center …

    So it wasn’t a high-speed freeway chase in a white Bronco, but O.J. Simpson’s day in court certainly delivered on the drama.

    The big news is that Simpson is going to prison for kidnapping and armed robbery and could serve as much as 33 years in prison. But equally interesting is what happened before the hefty sentence came down.

    Today was the first time many of us actually heard O.J. Simpson say “I’m sorry” in a courtroom. His voice seemed to break and it looked like he was fighting back tears as he read a surprise statement to the judge. He explained: “I didn’t want to hurt anybody. I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong … I stand before you somewhat confused.” Simpson continued for about five minutes, sometimes rambling, as he talked about how he was merely trying to recover property that had been stolen from his family.

    And while this case had nothing to do with the circus-like “trial of the century” that consumed the country back in 1995, some familiar faces in today’s courtroom wouldn’t let us forget the drama of those days.

    Sydney Simpson, O.J.’s twenty-three year-old daughter who is old enough to remember the last trial, was there to see her father receive a sentence that will put him into prison for at least nine years. Emotions also ran high for the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, who made the trip to Las Vegas to watch the sentencing.

    Ron’s father, Fred Goldman, continues to believe O.J. Simpson murdered his son and wasn’t moved by the apology. Goldman told reporters: “He committed a crime. He’s gonna be where he belongs, with others of his kind, and he can complain there.” Denise Brown, Nicole’s sister, said she is saddened about how the prison time will affect Sydney and her brother Justin.

    And the drama may not be over. As AP pointed out, many attorneys who have watched this case from the beginning are still sorting out the complex series of consecutive and concurrent sentences to determine how much time Simpson got and how much he will actually serve. USA Today’s newsblog shows top newspapers from around the country are just as confused. None of them agree on how much time Simpson actually got. Is it 9 years like the New York Times reports? 15 according to the Washington Post? 16 as reported by the Los Angeles Times? Or is the Wall Street Journal the one to trust with a report of 33 years?

    In the end, it might not matter. O.J. Simpson’s lawyer plans to appeal by arguing that a fair trial was nearly impossible after Simpson’s 1995 acquittal.

    __________________
    I know it’s completely off topic for this board. But I found it interesting that not even the lawyers watching could figure out how many years Simpson would be serving.

  79. Harvey Police raid

    ..Rice would not say whether the action was connected to the charges announced earlier this week against four Harvey police officers and 11 other law-enforcement officers accused of serving as security for large-scale drug deals.

    * * * * * * * * * *

    My goodness…the raid follows charges, not precedes?

    Popular form of career enhancement, this security for trafficking. We must be talking a shed load of drugs and deals to occupy and remunerate 11, possibly more. I wonder if the Harvey nighttime watch commander is one of those involved. Such a convenient position for, well, almost anything you’d like to get away with ;-)

  80. More from Harvey polce webpages:
    The City of Harvey Police Department and Fire Department provide a variety of community services in addition to their expected responsibilities:

    • First aid educational seminars
    Photography services for Harvey governmental events
    • Car seat safety inspection services
    • Personal safety seminars
    • And more…
    * * * * * * * * * *
    Police photography as a “service”…why police? not pr or press office? creepy.

  81. I’m diggin the dog, facs :-) . I admire the way some of you can change your avatar at will. I fancied putting up a picture of a bucket of chicken, but Icouldn’t even find the settings button. Just as well I like the one assigned…reminds me of the crown chakra on the tops of our heads, and changing it seems to be a big commitment, lol

  82. That pumpkin thing that’s my avatar is news to me. Must be aliens infiltrating the blog! Can’t imagine where that came from.

  83. Police community service photography at governmental functions + searches on individuals’ cars = a lot of information…I wonder if Oakbrook and Harvey share best practice?

  84. Hey, Ms. Bucket! Hope all’s well.

    If they do nothing else but get the creep that murdered the police officer that was found shot to death in Harvey, near the train station, that alone will be worth this mess coming to a head!

  85. So far so good, rescue! Thanks!

    It sounds like they’ve got serious trash to take out. Assasination, for sure. or asassination, take your pick, lol. It’s very late, and I’m off now. Bid you all sweet dreams !

    rescue-The Legend of Sleepy Hollow was just broadcast via satellite, maybe there was some sort of cross-over in the ether?

  86. I listened to Pretzer’s show but not much enlightening. The other Defnders and the DA from Los Angles all had much more to contribute to the conversation. Brodsky came off as whiny and as usual he stammered a lot – especially when he started to say something about when he’s ‘defending a client who’s innocent….er….umm… who deserves a vigorous defense….”

  87. I thought my message got deleted and I was wondering why and realized I posted on the wrong day. OOPS Any way I thought maybe noway was one-wrong- link now for I couldn’t get the radio station. I realize now my operating system is just to ancient and my media player won’t work on it.

  88. Just wanted to add that one very intelligent defense atty said last night that if a client refuses to listen or to take his advice, that he will drop them rather than risk his reputation and career.

    This was after Joel had gone on for a bit about how he can’t control Drew and has had to “change his personality” in order to deal with the challenge of working with him.

  89. Interesting press release from Selig. “Companies” are specifically mentioned but looking at the past year I’d say that he’s actually used this saturation technique more to bury bad press about an individual (Drew Peterson) than for any company.
    ******************************

    How to Bury Negative Company News on the Internet

    The tactic utilized by savvy business and PR professionals can help reduce the affect of negative postings that materialize on the Internet.

    prnewschannel.com – December 06, 2008

    (PRNewsChannel) / Tampa, Fla. / It’s a little known strategy deployed by some savvy PR professionals: using search engine optimized press releases to generate links to Web sites. A growing number of companies are using SEO press releases to bury negative news and blog postings says a SEO press release writing expert.

    “Companies sometimes get criticized and those negative blog postings often appear in the top 10 in Google when searching the company name,” says Glenn Selig, founder of PRNewsChannel.com (http://www.PRNewsChannel.com), which specializes in writing press releases and SEO press release distribution. “It’s unfortunate that that happens but there is something you can do about it. And there is a way to bury negative news on the Internet.”

    Glenn Selig, founder of PRNewsChannel.com, talks about how to bury negative news on the Internet.
    Selig says his company has successfully been able to bury negative postings by writing and distributing search engine optimized press releases. Savvy public relations professionals and online marketers turn to Selig and his team to write them all the time.

    Optimizing and distributing a search engine optimized press release (SEO press release) offers benefits at a nominal cost. When distributed through a press release distribution company, the press releases are indexed by Google, Google News, Ask.com, Yahoo, MSNBC and AOL.

    “You still need something newsworthy to disseminate but then it’s about strategy and technique,” says Selig.

    This press release you’re reading is search engine optimized and distributed via PRNewsChannel.com (http://www.prnewschannel.com), which sends search engine optimized press releases to search engines like Google, Google News, Ask.com, Yahoo and MSN.

    How to Bury Negative News: Topics
    Newsworthy topics could be a new product, new partnership, new service, recent media attention or awards your employees or companies have won.

    If the press release is search engine optimized well, then your press release will turn up in the places you want it to, says Selig.

    The way it works is press releases are optimized with keyword-rich content. If properly optimized, SEO press releases add the potential for increased traffic to your site from clients or customers searching for your product and business. They also provide improved rankings overall and increase your chances of additional press.

    But the bottom line, says Selig, is search engine optimized press releases can help “push down” bad news that may be costing you customers or business.

    “I help large and small companies use this secret weapon all the time,” says Selig. “And it works like a charm.”

    To learn more about how to bury negative news and postings on the Internet, please visit http://www.prnewschannel.com.

  90. Hey everybody.

    It’s barely into December, and the snow thing is getting pretty old already! Whew.

    Facs – that’s interesting about how Joel says he’s having a hard time controlling his client. Seems I remember thinking that very same thing. Why not “fire” his client????

    I’ve got it. Maybe Joel can write a book after all.

    Chameleon Attorney – How I prostituted myself for my out-of-control client.

    He can get Armstrong to do his marketing, and Selig to do his PR. $$$$$$$$$

  91. This must be the standard defense when a “dirty” cop is found to be involved in illegal drugs. This is the Harvey P.O. that was just arrested:

    n a court hearing Thursday, federal agents also revealed surveillance photos that they say show Stallworth, who was fired from his other job as a Metra conductor, carrying a duffel bag he believed to be full of cocaine.

    Stallworth’s lawyer claimed that he was conducting his own investigation into drug dealing.

    Where have I heard that before?? Hmmmm.

  92. It seems to be the “defense de rigueur” if one is a cop!

    OFFICER HAD BEEN WITH DEPARTMENT FOR FIVE YEARS

    October 2, 2008

    Ron Fitz
    Silver & Gold Record reporter

    The University of Colorado at Colorado Springs was the focus of media attention last week when a campus police officer was arrested and charged with multiple felony counts involving an alleged attempt to solicit sex with a woman and her 13-year-old daughter, according to police reports.

    The officer has been suspended from UCCS without pay, pending the investigation.

    Todd Vecellio, 38, who has been a UCCS police officer for the past five years, was arrested Sept. 24 in an Internet sex sting, according to a Cañon City police report. According to that report, an undercover officer posed on the Internet as a single mother with a 13-year-old daughter, and allegedly chatted with Vecellio for more than a month. Vecellio allegedly arranged to have a sexual meeting with the two, according to the police report, and when he arrived outside a liquor store in Penrose, just east of Cañon City, the undercover officer arrested him.

    Vecellio reportedly claimed he was conducting his own investigation, the report said, but later revealed he did not record anything to substantiate the alleged investigation, police said.

  93. Facs, I got the opportunity to listen to the radio show.

    That was funny about Joel’s comments about changing his personality to accomodate his “goofy” client who doesn’t follow his advice, and Joe’ Tapocina’s comments on clients who don’t follow your advice. (paraphrased)

    On the sad side, was the story of Joshua Whittier. I hope his mom is able to get answers and find out what happened to her son. She has not been able to get local media to pick up the story, which is why she has gone national.

    According to Melody Schmidt, the sheriff said he did not want the media involved. :shock:

    http://www.americaiswatching.org/Joshua_Whittier.html

    This link has photos the one above does not … at least more easily accessible …

    http://www.realcrimes.com/Whittier/Whittier.htm

  94. I also thought it was interesting that Joel claimed that OJ hadn’t received a fair sentence, and the DA from Los Angeles reminded him that it was typical of the Las Vegas “hardcore” stand on crime, and probably had nothing to do with the client’s prior legal problems.

    IMO, everything Joel says these days is skewed by his experience with DP. The man needs some more cases/clients

  95. Facs, maybe he had more clients. Then when he changed his personality to mesh with Drew, those clients let him go.

    IMO

  96. Brodsky did have Delatwon Haynes as a client for a while, but Haynes dropped him back in August, I think it was.

  97. All I remember is that Haynes said the decision to drop JB was a family decision. He didn’t really give specifics.

  98. Borodsky has brought on a lot of negative opinion over himself because of D.P’s case. Although the high profile status of this case has made him a well known name., I feel it will come back to bite him in the end. It may end his career if he loses this case. Joel’s almost a likable guy in his own little way.Some of his practices howeverof blogging on the internet on message boards ect. is not how a lawyer should behave. That and smearing the victims in this case will be an unforgettable checkmark against him if he should lose this case IMO. He may be able to sell a book on the subject of defending DP and then he’s done. He won’t be able to pin the negativity toward him all on DP in the end.

  99. Ratty, even if he “wins” he’s done. It’s not just his client, he’s fully part of the disease and he’s shown it to the world.

  100. Yeah, I can’t imagine how the bait and badger blogging, not to mention courting the alliance of maladjusted Internet denizens has earned him any credit with his peers.

    I almost felt bad for him during Pretzer’s show last night when Joe Tapocina appeared to be trying to give him some friendly advice.

  101. Okay – I’m getting to the bottom of this! If I work on my desktop and blog on here from that computer, my avatar is the Christmas Penguin. On my laptop, it’s a pumpkin.

    That is weird!

  102. OK – I don’t usually do this but here is a paste from hangdrew’s. It’s just so funny to see someone else take on the herculean effort of transcribing that man. I just refused to do it this time…
    ************************

    Howmanyistoomany? said…

    “Ya know…WOW…what a…what a…great question…ah…ya know…What do you do with a client who is…a…ya know innocent…duh…or…and deserves a…a defence…and a… a…ah…and a…uhm a…very a…ya know…uhm a…a very vigorous defence. yet sometimes will act against his…uhm…best
    a…interest? Uhm…ya know…duh
    I realize many…at least when I first started representing Drew that he’s…a…a unique type of individual. He has…ah a lot of years in law enforcement…uh…so he knows a lot more about the system than most…uh…and the criminal justice than uhm…lot of uhm defendents…or uhm…and a… and a…lot of lawyers for that matter. Uhm..he’s really doesn’t make it easier. But a…he deserves…ya know…as vigorous defense as I can give him. No matter how…uhm…strange or goofy…he a…they act. Uhm… ya know…I’ve tried…I’ve adjust my style of defense to try to fit as best I could to try to fit his personality and uhm…ya know… what he keeps doing. Uhm… sometimes ya gotta go with the flow. But uh…ya know…the client …like I say…uhm… the lawyer gives advice…uh uh… the client is the one who makes the decision whether or not to accept it. So far we’ve been pretty lucky with ah…with Drew. We were able to…ya know…to a defeat that gun charge. And uhm…so far… ya know…he hasn’t been charged with anything in the other cases where there’s been an investigation. What I think that…I still believe …uh…from what I’ve been hearing that there will be no charge. So…uh… representing someone who doesn’t follow your advice clearly is uh..uhm..is not the easiest thing in the world … uhm… to do. I’d much rather have …uhm…a client that was just lock step with what I told them. But…uhm…we don’t live in that type of perfect world.”

  103. “I’ve tried…I’ve adjust my style of defense to try to fit as best I could to try to fit his personality”

    That was the quote I was trying to remember.

    What kind of attorney does that? He should be the one to set the tone of the defense. It’s up to the client to cooperate for his own good. Wouldn’t you think?

  104. I’ve personally never seen nor heard of an attorney that takes a back seat to the whims of the client. Not when they’re the ones getting hundreds of dollars an hour!

    A client does not hire an attorney to be a lightening rod for their antics; they’re hired to counsel and guide them.

    What is wrong with this picture?

  105. facsmiley // December 5, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Interesting that “Police did not find any weapons or bullet casings ” at Cook’s death scene.

    Most thugs don’t stop to gather up casings.

    Nor do revolvers eject their spent casings.

    ;>

  106. Also if one were to shoot out the passenger side from behind the steering wheel, even if firing a semi-automatic pistol, the casings would most likely eject off the headliner and/or into the backseat area.

  107. I would agree Joel ‘s carreer is over allready for those who think rationally. Unfortunately I’ve seen my share of DP supporters out there that if Joel wins will overlook the main point of his defense to drag the victims and the families through the mud and will be forgotten with the victory if he wins the case. I myself wouldn’t want him defending me for stealing a piece of gum.

  108. I’ve just caught up with everyone else by listening to Dana Pretzer. Gotta love JB warning all of the danger paid interviews with news outlets pose to justice. The same fees probably account for a good chunk of his income over the last year.

  109. I know Drew will be arrested soon. The contacts I have in the greater Chicago area have told me the Grand Jury is reaching a close, and expected to indict with Kathleen Savio by early January.

    We may see him arrested just prior to Jan 10th… this is what I know from solid sources.

  110. WKEL, what do your sources say about Glasgow meeting with families of the victims and MaryP? Did that take place at all?

  111. From what I know (not confirmed), Glasgow was supposed meet with Mary P. this month. I am not certain if they did yet, or what transpired.

    I think this may be the breaking point in Savio, in regard to the matter of her deat, and Drew’s actions.

  112. WKELOL – Why didn’t Glasgow just say he was expecting an arrest soon? Why tiptoe around with words by saying he expects a “resolution” in one of the cases soon? I think, if nothing else, saying he’d be coming after Peterson soon with an arrest would be fitting for such an arrogant, obnoxious character. It wouldn’t be giving anything away to him or his defense by divulging any info, just throwing it right back at him, IMO.

    I guess I’m just skeptical of anything we see or hear anymore. After a year of promises, it’s just hard to believe anything that anyone says anymore.

  113. Make that death, and Drew’s actions…

    Anyway, I don;t know about any meetings with the other family members, except for reports it was supposed to take place as well as Mary’s interview.

  114. I don’t know anything about Glasgow’s actions, or why he acts as he does. That’s for someone else to dissect.

  115. I do know that there is talk amongst prosecution sources that the arrest will happen in January. I do know Mary’s name was part of those spoken to, again in the occurrence of Savio’s death.

  116. I’m with you Rescue.

    I am also starting to believe that even if they do take him to trial it’s definitely not a slam dunk.

    Sure hope they got something, not sure what it could be in the way of trace/forensic evidence 4 years later, cause without Stacy’s body, this is the only hope to lock him up.

  117. weknoweverythinglol // December 7, 2008 at 11:09 am

    I do know that there is talk amongst prosecution sources that the arrest will happen in January.
    ———–

    I hope you are correct and will be on Kathleen Savio. Really would like to know if ISP is still searching and investigating on Stacy Peterson.

  118. If you want to locate Stacy, then contact
    Michelle Whitedove she has her own website. She was the winner of Americas Greatest Psychic Challange. She has stated on her blog where to find Lisa Stebic. Food for thought.
    Good day ladies.

  119. No, no trial is ever a slam dunk. It shouldn’t be, of course. That’s the fortunate thing for Drew Peterson. His rights have been preserved, he has a defense lawyer, and, if and when the time comes that he’ll be charged, he’ll be able to participate in choosing the jury that has his life in their hands. If he thinks he can’t find a fair jury, oh, well. He picked his actions to follow and it’s his doing. “Be careful what you wish for.”

    I am sick of him and sick of his whining that the media paints him as sinister. He has no one to blame but himself. As much as Stebic is as despicable as Peterson, he’s stayed under the radar, and hardly anyone gives him a second thought. Not that they shouldn’t, but he does not parade his sorry butt all over the place like the media loving Peterson does.

  120. Psychics? Sorry, I’m not a believer!

    If Michelle Whitedove knows where the bodies of these woman may be, she should be able to “see” a way of convincing someone to unearth them.

    Sorry, not trying to be rude – just being a realist.

  121. Just realizing the irony in the fact that Drew Peterson now is the one with PMS in Stacy’s case.

    Potential Murder Suspect

  122. WKELOL, it was Armstrong who reported that Glasgow would be meeting with Mary P on the fourth of this month and that he was meeting with family members of both the Savio and Cales families as early as the last week of November. I haven’t seen confirmation that any of this took place. IMO, Armstrong’s press credentials are about on the same par as anyone’s claims of psychic powers.

  123. Givarat – This whole Peterson thing has turned into one of the most covert investigations the likes of any of have seen. Carefully chosen words, no GJ information, no investigation clues – nothing.

    Who the heck is Drew Peterson, anyway? He sure has shown himself to be an overly obnoxious, confident crime suspect. Why? Is he an Untouchable?

  124. Just because one does not believe in pyschic powers,they do not exsist. More Food for Thought. Atleast something to get you ladies talking. You gals ROCK when you TALK !

  125. Since it’s so slow here on the blog, I guess it’s a good time to play detective.

    Someone else that’s blogged on here before capitalizes words within their sentences. Anyone else remember who that nic was?

  126. How’d she win that contest after pulling a boner like this?

    Hillary Clinton, US President – Written March 22nd 2008
    A Democratic Update 2008 Election
    By Michelle Whitedove

    I was given a vision of Hillary being sworn in as the next president elect. Proud and regal she stood with her hand on the bible wearing a royal blue suit. Behind her, the Vice President was a white man; his face was not in clear focus. So my predictions remain unchanged, my faith unwavering. The Democratic ticket will be Hillary Clinton for President and John Edwards as the vice president.

  127. LOL, I think the John Edwards vision is especially precious. Vice President of what? Creeps who don’t let the head of their shoulders do their thinking?

  128. I think that the hush hushness of this case means they don’t need that much outside help to make a case against Drew. Also that they don’t want to screw this thing up. Also what I realized is they must have a lot of evidence to go through for the GJ to have been in session for over a year now.

  129. LOL, Whitedove got “some of it wrong,” heh? Just like Peterson. Got “some of it wrong” when he took a so-called lie detector exam. If you believe, then you can justify the “wrong” aspects of anything, I guess, and hang on to the ones that work for you.

  130. givearat., I try to be patient because I want them to take as long as they need to build a good case and make a charge that will stick. But it’s hard!

  131. State Attorney James Glasgow uses his words carefully, but still says plenty for those who know how to listen.

    Learn to listen to what he is actually saying ……..

  132. If you read what givearat stated a few posts up, you’re getting pretty close.

    The States Attorney also suggested to watch “Internal Affairs” to give you an idea what is involved and that suggestion is not to compare looks between Drew and Richard Gere……

    It is about the core of the investigations into Drew Peterson and that core is huge !

  133. I haven’t watched Internal Affairs in a long time, so I’m not remembering a lot of the particulars, except how Richard Gere looked in that movie. I think Peterson reminds me more of the movie Training Day. In fact, didn’t he say he’d want Denzel Washington to play his part in his movie dream? Wonder why. That was one bad dude in that movie. Now that, you should watch and learn.

  134. From the Chicago Tribune
    Stranger than fiction: Peterson book looms

    —Erika Slife
    September 29, 2008

    Excerpt……..

    Peterson’s publicist says he’s scheduled to appear Monday morning on CBS’ “The Early Show,” but the 54-year-old claims he’s already tired of the book buzz.

    “Actually, I’m bored with it all,” he said in a telephone interview with the Tribune. “I’m waiting for the movie to come out.”

    Who would play him?

    ” Denzel Washington.”

  135. Core synopsis of the movie “Internal Affairs”

    “an amoral, possibly sociopathic police sergeant who controls a seemingly department wide network of corruption”

    Does that sound ike someone we know ?

  136. And …… Training Day:

    Training Day is a blistering action drama that asks the audience to decide what is necessary, what is heroic and what crosses the line in the harrowing gray zone of fighting urban crime. Does law-abiding law enforcement come at the expense of justice and public safety? If so, do we demand safe streets at any cost? Or do we risk our security by insisting that those empowered to protect us do so within the boundaries of the law? At a time when police across the nation are battling a public image of rampant corruption, narcotics use, planting evidence and excess brutality while patrolling the meanest streets of America, Training Day paints a gripping and realistic portrait of the war taking place on the urban front lines – and just how high the costs of this battle can be.

  137. Stallworth and finding a dead Metra Police Officer near a Harvey train station, Sallworth being a Metra employee also, is very scary.

    Thanks for the link, Bucket, and Hen for the Internal Affairs synopsis.

  138. DP got Tom Morphey installed as manager or assistant manager or night manager at the truckstop.

    I really hope he gets it for everything.

  139. rescueapet // December 7, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Stallworth and finding a dead Metra Police Officer near a Harvey train station, Sallworth being a Metra employee also, is very scary.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes that is very scary indeed ………

    Very much like Drew was always first officer on the scene in tragedies he was personally involved in (!!)

    I’ve alwys learned there is no such thing as a “co-incidence” in crime (!)

  140. bucketoftea // December 7, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    DP got Tom Morphey installed as manager or assistant manager or night manager at the truckstop.

    I really hope he gets it for everything

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Has it ever come out why Tom Morphey was sacked from that job or was that just Drews badmouthing Thomas got sacked from that job ?

  141. They say you learn something new everyday. I honestly didn’t know that Morphey was working at that infamous truckstop. When was that?

  142. Oh, Rescue, I don’t think it was concurrent with Stacy’s disappearance. Before then, but just how recenty I don’t think I ever knew for sure.

  143. From http://www.acandyrose.com

    http://www.findstacypeterson.com forum posting by “GuardianAngel”, Global Moderator, Full Member, Posts: 191, Thread Titled, “Re: Tom Morphey worked at the Truck stop!” Re: Tom Morphey worked at the Truck stop! Reply #15 on: Today [12/02/2007] at 04:48:15 AM – Question, ” Drew and friend were at the truck stop at 3:30am. Did he get scared after that 2:30am phone call and say to himself “I gotta get rid of this ….” ?”, Quote, “Yes…. B/c When He Asked What We Were Doing Outside His House….. We Said B/c We Just Filed A Missing Person’s Report…. and He Was Like Uh Uh Uh Uh What?”

    2007-10-29 findstacypeterson.com

    ——————————————————————————–
    NEW Information found 12/02/2007 02:30 AM
    – ILL http://www.findstacypeterson.com forum posting by “GuardianAngel”, Global Moderator, Full Member, Posts: 191, Thread Titled, “Re: Tom Morphey worked at the Truck stop!” Reply #20 on: Today [12/02/2007] at 05:08:34 AM – Quote, “The Truck Stop Is Like Less Than 4 Miles From His House……. The Truck Stop Is At Rte.53 and I55 So Im Guessing He Freaked Out Called Pepper Hair (Paul Peterson) and They Went To The Truck Stop”

  144. Please correct me if I’m wrong but Thomas Morphey was sacked from the truck stop not long before Stacy went missing.

    I never read anywhere why he was sacked, only that he was sacked and that Drew and Stacy had given him money/gifts to survive etc.

    After Stacy went missing and the blue barrel became an issue Drew started badmouthing Thomas, saying he was a drunk/drug addict/loser and couldn’t keep any job etc etc

  145. Nothing I found really pinpoints when Tom Morphey worked there.

    The article is from December 1, and says used to work there so he worked there before that. Whether it was closer to the time Stacy disappeared, I don’t know.

    LOLing about the psychic mentioned above. I wonder what the criteria were for the contest she won as world’s best.

  146. Oh, what a tangled web he weaves, that Drew. It’s like the man preyed on the weakest individuals he could find and set out to control them by intimidation. Break free of his control – he’ll whack you.

  147. Also makes you wonder what the heck went on at that truckstop at night when Thomas Morphey was working there and with Drew hanging around at some ungodly hour doing what he does best…..

    That’s why I’m curious why Thomas was sacked from that particular job.

    I bet the State Attorney already knows, but he ain’t telling …..

  148. Ex-Chief McGury wanted to have Drew Peterson appear before the Police Board for some violation, and even went to the State’s Attorney with his concerns. I think part of it is because Peterson was using the police computer/database, similar to what his son was suspended for. Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, that must have triggered some kind of investigation, since Peterson abruptly resigned before any of it was made public.

    So, not only are these criminal investigations regarding Kathleen and Stacy going on, but heaven only knows what internal investigation is going on. It must be complicated.

  149. Movie review of Internal Affairs—“Avila (good cop) suspects something about Peck (bad cop) from the beginning; his influence and dominance over others seems to extend further than the reach of his badge. When officers who wish to testify against Peck start dying, the depth of his corruption becomes increasingly clear; at his disposal, he has an army of cops and criminals alike. He even agrees to assassinate a sleazy businessman’s own parents, and humiliates the businessman while they make the deal. In his drive to dominate others, Peck attempts to seduce almost every woman around him and is obsessed with children and fatherhood. Peck is most dangerous when the investigation threatens his territory and his extended family; he stalks Avila and turns him against his wife.”

    I smell some other kind of corruption or serial activity, maybe he can go the RICO way. If he involved others and the mail…..

    I do believe he’s done a lot more than we know. That’s probably why his old comrades are sorry they knew him. He probably sucked a lot of people in.

    IMO the jury is still meeting because they have more than just a murder charge to make.

  150. lizanne61 // December 8, 2008 at 8:22 am

    ——–
    Thanks for the movie review. I think you are on to something here. Let’s hope that those who kept quiet in the past starting with Kathleen Savio have started to talk.

  151. This is what I watched and said- take note…

    If you read what givearat stated a few posts up, you’re getting pretty close.

    The States Attorney also suggested to watch “Internal Affairs” to give you an idea what is involved and that suggestion is not to compare looks between Drew and Richard Gere……

    It is about the core of the investigations into Drew Peterson and that core is huge !

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