The proceedings start off with the courtroom being cleared of reporters and spectators.
Defense Attorney Joe Lopez tweets that he has arrived in Joliet.
WGN reports that Peterson appears confident–gave reporters a “sly smile”.
WGN reports that the State wants to produce and present an animated video to show at trial. Peterson’s transportation to court and entry to courthouse has been changed so that the media will only see him once he is in the courtroom. Atty Brodsky says that potential jurors are being asked not only if they saw the Lifetime movie, “Drew Peterson: Untouchable” but whether their spouses have seen the film. There may be additions made to the jury pool since it is down about one third from when it was originally assembled about three years ago.
Court breaks for lunch. Media has yet to attend any of today’s proceedings.
According to Patch editor, Joe Hosey, defense attorney says a pending ruling may prompt the State to ask for trial delay.
Seeing reports that Peterson appears “totally relaxed – joking with attorneys” and a deputy sheriff.
It’s being reported that despite the appellate court’s ruling, Judge Burmila may bar some hearsay evidence before trial if he doesn’t deem it reliable enough. He also said that he may not rule until after the trial begins and each of the disputed statements are introduced.
Judge Burmilla barred testimony about Peterson wire-tapping Savio’s phone saying that wire-tapping a spouse doesn’t indicate an intention of murder. The judge still has to rule on a sealed motion involving a hearsay statement. He is giving both sides until Saturday to come up with some case law. Jury selection will still go forward on Monday.
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Drew Peterson will be in court this morning for the hearing of motions in advance of his trial, July 30th.
Six motions are before the court; two brought by the defense and four brought by the prosecution. In addition, attorneys are expected to discuss with Judge Burmila jury selection matters and trial details.
HLN is reporting that one of the motions is in regards to a “wound diagram”. A member of the defense team said that the problem is that they have not yet seen this diagram which they assume is a diagram of the wounds to Kathleen Savio’s body and head. They ceded that they may have no issue with the diagram once they see it.
Judge Burmila is also expected to rule on a motion regarding marital privilege. At previous hearings the courtroom has been cleared whenever it is discussed, but it could be related to comments Stacy Peterson made to her counselor, Neil Schori, about a conversation she had with her husband on the night that Kathleen Savio died, when she found him dressed in black, loading women’s clothing into a washing machine at their home.
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Defense launches new website. Wonder what the judge will say about this.
http://thepublicityagency.com/drew-peterson-defense-team-online-media-kit/
Welcome to PetersonDefense.com, the public “war room” for the Drew Peterson defense team.
Grandam, Judge White’s gag order mostly took into account pretrial matters. He meant for that to shut up Peterson and his goofy jailhouse interviews, as well as, I assume, keeping Brodsky’s mouth shut. I think we can agree that was a joke in and of itself. Peterson had numerous letters published by Sneed, and she even did a jailhouse interview. To me, the only thing I can see that was keep under wraps was most of the legal filings.
This new website appears to be the brainchild of Brodsky’s big head, and keeping himself front and center in the media. Since this is in anticipation of the trial itself, I doubt there’s anything more to gag. Besides, I don’t think this judge cares about any gag order.
Joel Brodsky: “The time for joking is over.”
There was a time when joking about the death of Kathleen Savio and the charging of his client with her murder was OK???
So….Brodsky says the time for joking around is over. As though any of this warranted jokes before by anyone other than he and his pathetic client.
Another defense soundbite — we’re all going to see that the State’s case is nothing but “smoke and mirrors.”
Yeah, smoke and mirrors, but they’re fighting every possible attempt by the prosecution to get in evidence.
Pffft.
Video up at WGN: http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-peterson-faces-final-pretrial-hearing-20120718,0,5406285.story
I don’t really know what to make of that. Isn’t all of the evidence up for objection once it gets to court? AFAIK, there’s no way that every piece of hearsay evidence will be barred beforehand. The defense only has two motions to argue today and there are many hearsay statements still admissible per the appellate court.
What is going on with this judge?
http://www.suntimes.com/13817962-418/drew-peterson-judge-might-ban-some-hearsay-testimony-against-him-after-all.html
Yeah, what is going on with this judge is right? I can see another delay coming.
Am I off my nut here, or didn’t the appellate court reverse Judge White’s decisions on the hearsay evidence seeing as he had never considered the common law exceptions?
Isn’t that what delayed the trial for two years? Judge Burmila gets to just thumb his nose at the Illinois Supreme and Appellate courts and do it his way?
Let’s see if I have this right. The Appellate Court made a ruling that certain hearsay is admissible, but Judge Burmila is falling back on Judge White’s ruling to say he probably won’t let it in? In other words, he is saying he doesn’t care what the Appellate Court ruled–it’s his call and that’s it?
Wouldn’t the State then ask for a delay and for a clarification, or whatever you want to call it, from the Appellate Court? Yikes.
Now I understand what this tweet from JHosey of earlier this afternoon means.
The judge is giving the attorneys until Saturday to provide case law in support of their motions, and it sounds as though the State might not be commiting to moving forward if his ruling denies prior admissible hearsay.
So far I am not impressed with this judge.
Updated video in the post up top.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8740206
Good video here from WGN: http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-peterson-faces-final-pretrial-hearing-20120718,0,5406285.story
Sorry I can’t embed or grab for the site.
This is nuts in my opinion. This judge, how does he just do what he wants? Good God, I smell DELAY
Hey those that read here — Joel Brodsky put Joe Hosey on the defense witness list as a “rebuttal witness.” The end result of this? Keep Joe Hosey from covering the trial.
Joel Brodsky you are a piece of garbage that doesn’t have a brain in which to think yourself out of a closet. Talk about a low-ball tactic. That’s about as moronic as chaining yourself to a table during a court proceeding. And having a lapse in judgment by signing a dead person’s name to a check and getting suspended from practicing law for it.
I hope the news outlets that read here see what a complete idiot and moron you are. Looks like the AOL lawyers will have to get involved, and outsmart you. Why don’t you pretend to act like a lawyer, instead of a wanna-be bully no one pays attention to anyway. This whole case, and the years of you and your murder defendant of a client, make me sick.
http://joliet.patch.com/articles/hearsay-holdup-in-drew-peterson-murder-case#photo-3528942
What is this justice system? All a big circus of fun and games? Or a battle of egos? Jesus Christ
from above update
Doesn’t show murder intent, but was he, once again. in her home illegally.
To me the Peterson wire-tapping goes to show that he was still trying to be in control of Kathleen’s life and wanted to know what she was doing and who she was talking to…Absolutely a control freak, jealous and conniving….
The wire-tapping may have been done while they were still married. I remember Carol Brown and daughter said that Drew bugged the house during their marriage.
No matter when it happens it certainly would show Peterson to be controlling, manipulative and not bothered about infringing on the rights of others.
http://shar.es/tkY9Q
Control freak oh yes but, If you did the dirty deeds that Drew did, he was always looking over his shoulder, imagine that type of life, no thankyou…And Rescue, what you said about the AOL lawyers out smarting Brodsky, my dog could out smart him…
As for the judge saying that wire-tapping your wife isn’t an indication that you’re going to murder her, well what is besides putting up a billboard stating “I AM GOING TO KILL MY WIFE”?
Shouldn’t the jury get to hear that testimony and make up their own minds?
It’s sounding to me that Judge Burmila wants to try this case himself-and decide what he’ll hear, when he wants to hear it, and devil take the hindmost on a jury. I predicted problems with this judge a long time ago…I swear it sounds as iif he’s already made up his mind and doesn’t want anything (or anybody) confusing him with the facts.
This is NOT the attitude a judge should have, nor is it the oath that he swore to uphold. Has he forgotten that Lady Justice is supposed to be blind for a reason?
This judge is to busy making sure Drew isn’t painted in a bad light. I’m thinking he is part of the good ‘ole boys club.
Mark Jensen was found quilty of murdering his wife in wisconsin.
Julie Jensen, the victim, had given a neighbor a letter pointing an accusing finger at her husband should anything happen to her.
She also made foreboding comments to police and to her son’s teacher, saying she suspected that her husband was trying to kill her.
After the verdict, jurors told reporters that the letter gave them “a clear road map” to conviction, as one female juror phrased it.
Jurors should hear everything K. Savio said, in asking for help.
Judge White coming up on, in session tru tv today, noon chicago time.
I missed it. Did you watch, Grandam? What did he have to say?
If I understood Judge White, the prosecutors could bring in hearsay if its under Forfeiture by wrongdoing. Then its up to the jurors to decide if its reliable or not.
Hmmm, Judge Burmilla was saying yesterday that he might bar some of it before it ever gets to trial, or that he might allow it to be presented and give the defense a chance to challenge it and then he’ll shoot it down if he agrees.
He also yelled at prosecutors for urging him to decide which way he’ll go by Monday, saying that he’ll rule when he sees fit and not to suit them.
He’s giving both sides until Saturday to show him some case law supporting their arguments and then he’ll decide…whenever he wants, which doesn’t seem very fair to the prosecution.
I understand that some of the hearsay could get shot down in the courtroom, that was mentioned in the appellate court’s decision–they deemed it admissible but couldn’t guarantee that it would make it to trial. But I think it’s kind of an eff-you to the higher courts if Burmila shoots it down before the prosecution even gets a chance to attempt to present it.
This is the footnote from the Appellate Court’s most recent ruling that the hearsay was admissible:
So, if Judge Burmila bars the statements is he required to explain how he deems them “otherwise inadmissible” or can he just wave his hand and dismiss them on a whim?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/89100091/Hearsay-decision-is-reversed-Barred-statements-made-admissible-Drew-Peterson-case-is-remanded-to-trial
The decision also points out that :
and yet the media is reporting
So, how could the judge decide that they are unreliable when the appellate decision was made pursuant to common law and Federal Rule 804(b) which does not require proof of reliability?
Besides,
Judge White did NOT make his decision based on Rule 804(b). He expressly said that he ruled solely pursuant to the new hearsay statute which required a high degree of reliability.
So how can Judge Burmila now say he might stick with Judge White’s rulings after White’s (reversed) ruling was based on the new hearsay statute and the appellate court’s decision was based on common law and Rule 804(b)?
Steve Schmedeke’s case background story at the trib yesterday contained some details that I hadn’t seen before (or don’t remember). [SNIPPETS]
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-drew-peterson-case-0719-20120719,0,3812497.story
Interesting information about Morelli, which I never heard before. What I have heard is that Morelli made a statement after Stacy’s disappearance:
Wonder if he’s on the prosecution’s witness list?
I misspoke. We have heard this before, and we do have it on JC.
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/emotional-testimony-photos-in-kathleen-savio-murder-hearing/
I believe Joe Hosey wrote about this testimony. The actual link is no longer valid.
Heh, guess I should start researching our blog like everyone else is doing! LOL
[SNIPPETS]
http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/13713447-418/experts-3-year-old-drew-peterson-jury-pool-unusual-could-lead-to-complications.html
Some other information from JC’s thread regarding testimony:
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/emotional-testimony-photos-in-kathleen-savio-murder-hearing/
I came here to write that I think this Judge appears to be very pro-peterson. I see that I am not alone in my thoughts that he is doing this a bit, shall we say, strange!
God, I hope there is not yet another delay. Is this the longest time in history between an arrest and trial??
Weirdly, not at all. Chris Vaughn was arrested and charged in June 2007 for the murder of his family and he has still not gone to trial. Detained all this time as well in Will County. He’s got two years on Drew!
Nice to see you, Nat!
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/first-peterson-hearsay-minitrial-takes-place-today/
I am so not liking this….I too belive, one of the Good Old Boys. I still hold on to what an old friend once told me, Wait and See….
This judge is making some attention-grabbing rulings. However, what is his point of being out-of-control with his yelling and screaming at the prosecutor, telling her to sit down and not tell him when he should make a ruling? He ranted and raved at her at a previous hearing. Maybe he should get a massage or do some meditation before he blows a gasket, for all the anger that seems to well up in him when it comes to the prosecution. I don’t understand a judge screaming at either side, as angry outbursts should be avoided. Guess this guy doesn’t know how to control that. He sure doesn’t sound like the one with the voice of reason in that courtroom. He sounds like the one that would send everyone running for the hills. I used to work for a lawyer like that. The veins in her neck would pop out, and her face would get red with anger for all the spitting and spewing she did. Wonder if that’s how Judge Burmila looks when he’s having one of his tantrums? He’s the one with the biggest head, who happens to be the one on the bench. What a shame.
Now this jury issue. At first, the defense was against using the same jury pool, but it seems they have thought better of it. From what I read in the article, maybe the defense is thinking the same thing Andrea Lyon pointed out — it invites a reversal if there’s a conviction.
Ah, Lady Justice at work. Yikes.
By the way, hi Aussienat. Good to see you!!!
Ooookay then!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/13857004-452/drew-petersons-trial-witness-list-contains-a-shocker.html
Witness list leaks to Sneed. Of course.
So far the defense is calling a reporter and a dead woman. I thought Brodsky said the time for jokes was over.
Doesn’t that open the door to the fact that Stacy is a missing person?
Well, I doubt that the jurors will be told that she can’t be located to testify. It seems like her name is on the list only to make some kind of point to the prosecution (who I don’t doubt already understand that Drew is claiming Stacy ran away.) It’s also another slap at the hearsay testimony because if Stacy were available to testify the prosecutors wouldn’t be in the position of trying to get her statements into trial under a Forfeiture by Wrongdoing hearsay exception.
She may be on the list but obviously was never served with a subpoena, so it’s not like there’s going to be any big dramatic moment when they call her to the stand and then she doesn’t show. To me, having her name on the list is just more defense team BS, especially since they felt the need to leak it to Sneed.
Now that the trial is looming, HLN has graciously extended an invitation to us, as administrators of this board, to do interview time with them, based on the extensive information that has appeared on this blog over the years.
Over those years, much of the information posted here dealt with Brodsky’s bizarre and unconventional relationship with Drew Peterson. Obviously, we have not endeared ourselves to Brodsky, nor is this blog something he finds to his liking.
I might enjoy being on HLN and pointing out, first of all, that falsely targeting Joe Hosey as the administrator of this board is just another obsession Brodsky has with an adversary, to the point that he can’t see straight and has even convinced some of his co-counsel that we are, in fact, Joe Hosey. Pfft. Anyone who would listen to and believe what Brodsky thinks he knows about this board is as pea-brained as he is. Apparently, from my understanding, even Attorney Greenberg has been convinced by Brodsky (oh heavens) that Joe Hosey is behind this board. Glad Greenberg has that all figured out. Seems to me, what a waste of time it is to concentrate on who runs this board (got that HLN, Fox News, CBS, Chicago Tribune, Sun Times, et al)?
So, is THAT the reason local reporter, Joe Hosey, has wound up on the defense witness list? Oh my. Are we talking about high-profile, intelligent, professional lawyers here, listening to a so-called authority tell them who runs this place?
HLN thinks it would be interesting for viewers to hear about the beginnings of this board, and about us. Well, read it here folks — the defense dream team has one-upped you, so they think. Yep, I’d enjoy yet again pointing out a few things about Attorney Brodsky for the viewers.
I’d enjoy nothing more than reminding the viewers that Joel Brodsky schlepped around his client to radio stations to help him promote his personal liquor/food establishment. It’s all here, including the interviews, on JC.
I’d enjoy getting a chuckle reading his threatening Blackberry message directed at me, when he had a lapse of memory and I wasn’t Joe Hosey afterall. He was going to sue me for something or other, and I was going to “loose” my house and my business. (What business that is, I’ve yet to learn.) His goon, Kris McPherson, was happy enough to post his text message to her on another board. She’s the groupie that latched onto Peterson and started showing up at hearings to support him, after he became a famous creep. You see, she’s obsessed with cops, and maybe thinks she may have been one in a prior life. Short of that, she’ll take what she can get.
I’d be happy to chat over the airwaves about the monster that rears his ugly head.
Anway, getting back to what this board is really about, sharing comments and information, isn’t putting Stacy Peterson on the witness list a two-edged sword? It brings attention to her not being in the courtroom, which is what the defense wanted to avoid. What’s the purpose of this? The jury is to assume the defense expects her to show up? Okay….
This is what JC should have posted for defense bios:
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/drew-and-joels-payola-radio-shakedown/
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/03/
Interesting story from an HLN producer about being left alone in a room with Drew Peterson last May and a short conversation he had with him:
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/07/19/what-its-like-chat-drew-peterson
I can honestly say, I don’t remember anything about chirping birds or jaws music. I can only pick out the lack of judgment he used in going on all of these media appearances and saying stupid things. The music in the background has nothing ot do with it. What an odd observation, one that he never leveled before. Hmmm.
Of course Drew was mostly concerned with getting his trail televised.
As for the radio stations and the sound effects, I never heard anything like that. If true, it obviously wasn’t a news station–probably some “Morning Madhouse” thing which, by the way, Peterson and his lawyer were happy to appear on while joking about his dead and missing wives so…
This is the kind of radio that Drew Peterson and his lawyer wanted you to hear:
Lots of media outlets publishing background stories in advance of trial. These are from the Sun-Times:
Names to know
Timeline
Case against Drew Peterson
People v. Drew Peterson
Hey Rescue and Facs, you 2 are amazing. You have been through hell with these idiots….But the best is THEy think Joe runs this…..LOL LMAO Now thats someone I would want to defend me in a murder trial….Yeh right Loosers is all I can say..In the end, they will look like idiots. Keep up the great job you do.
Amazing! Do the interview, and get as much out as you can! I can’t believe they still think that, especially after what Mcpherson, and her blog buddies did to Rescue. You know, the truth about her ROFL. How they think they sue anybody, after all the stuff they have said, and done to all of us! I’m just glad I don’t live in Bolingbrook anymore so I can’t be stalked, or followed around town anymore! I would definitely do the interview and show what kind of Attorney antics he pulls all the time! He shouldn’t even be allowed to practice law, after what I heard is on those hearsay tapes
Hi Irish, hi Lorie.
You know, I wonder if those tapes are going to be used in the trial? There sure hasn’t been any discussion about what’s on them, or if they’re even in the running for use at his trial. However, their contents may have more to do with Stacy’s disappearance than Kathleen’s death.
Yes, the Sun-Times gossip column bringing you all the news no one cares about. Drew Peterson is getting a hair cut.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/13880539-452/a-court-ordered-new-do-for-drew-peterson.html
in session will be posting links for information on peterson case around 4et today on their facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/InSession
Wonder if their information will come from justice cafe.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZFRs-NjEqefMHXLI0Bgj8BTXmeQ?docId=c6ac0c745dbe4b208b8f68898eef070c
What???? Are my eyes deceiving me? Is he kidding? Brodsky sounds like he’s putting the blame squarely on Peterson for the negative view people have of him. Unbelievable.
Well ain’t that a kick in the pants? I would have sworn that Joel Brodsky and PR guy, Glenn Selig, were the ones booking all those media appearances and stunts for Drew.
I mean, wasn’t he bartering interview time with Drew in exchange for plugs for his Sport Bar?
There was a time when he was not only on board with the antics, but was co-piloting the boat.
Looks like Rescue is going to bite the bullet and do a phone interview segment with HLN on Monday. They wanted us to come to Joliet and go on camera but we think a little anonymity is best.
We’ll let you know when the segment will air – probably in the afternoon.
Rescue, you’re the bomb!
As I think I understand it, the defense will argue that the first conclusion regarding Kathleen’s death is the correct one–accidental. Dr. Mitchell did not determine the manner of death, that was left up to an inquest panel of laypeople. Dr. Mitchell’s findings were that Kathleen Savio drowned. That is undisputed.
What is disputed is the manner of her death. As a recap, I find this a contradiction that needs to be overcome. There was testimony at the hearsay hearing by the lead officer at the Kathleen Savio death scene that he did not do a complete and thorough job investigating her death. He deferred to the crime scene investigator at the time, who quickly determined her death was an accident, and has acknowledged he didn’t see those bruises. He is no longer able to process crime scenes in Will County.
More insight from a panel member, Jim Pretto
(http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/jim-pretto-savio-inquest-juror-if-we-had-known/)
EIGHTEEN TIMES the cops were called to intervene in disputes between Kathleen and Peterson. The day she was not answering her phone or the door and needed to be checked on, Peterson calls a locksmith and the neighbors. Either he lost the “911″ phone number, his radio wasn’t working, or the BBPD told him they were too busy this one time and handle it himself. Right?
There is so much messed up about that investigation. The coroner’s inquest was ridiculous. Look at this exchange between Coroner O’Neil and ISP Special Agent Herbert Hardy, who had never stepped foot on the scene of Kathleen’s death. His only knowledge of the scene was from a photocopy of the report:
I guess that was the conclusion drawn by investigators because they didn’t see blood anywhere but the small amount in the bathtub. Still, quite the jump considering the little attention paid to the scene. But then a few minutes later is this exchange…
Suddenly Herbert Hardy is able to inform a jury member of exactly where Kathleen Savio struck her head on the bathtub, even though the ISP never saw, much less collected any blood or hair evidence from the edge of the tub. Did he just make this up on the spot?
Why on earth did he fabricate this to the jury?
http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/documents/kathleen-savio-death-inquest-exhumation-and-autopsy-reports/
The Chicago Tribune has a story about the “daunting task of seating a Peterson jury.” In that story, sources are used (experts) to add their opinion related to the story. Jeff Tomczak, “former Will County State’s Attorney…” is one of the sources quoted in the story. I find it troublesome, after reading the story, that Mr. Tomczak’s expertise is being used here, but no where in the article does it mention HE WAS THE STATE’S ATTORNEY in office at the time of Kathleen Savio’s death. I was flabbergasted to see that he was used as a source for the story. Absolutely amazed! I looked through the story to see if he was questioned about his role in the 2004 death investigation of Kathleen Savio, but he wasn’t. He gave his thoughtful insight as to how “mentally” tough it’s going to be to pick a jury. How it’s going to be a “crapshoot.” He said “one of the keys to jury selection here is understanding the unique nature of the communities where the jurors come from…”
I don’t care what Mr. Tomczak thinks about selecting the Peterson jury. I care about why he ignored numerous, huge reasons why he should have conducted a full and meaningful investigation into Kathleen Savio’s death, and why she was ignored and her death ruled an accident.
Peterson and Savio had a contentious relationship, and Kathleen wrote to his office begging for help. One letter was sent to Elizabeth Fragale. The couple were in the midst of a heated divorce and settlement. The victim was arrested during an explosive encounter between them and his then-girlfriend. Yet, after Kathleen’s sudden death, no red-flags were raised, no meaningful investigation was launched, no Grand Jury investigation was opened, no explanation was given for ignoring Kathleen’s cries for help. No one seemed to be concerned that Peterson gained substantial sums of money by Kathleen’s death, he managed to hold onto his full pension because of her death, he inherited her house, he was the benefactor of her Will, even though she hated the sight of the man, her family’s pleas for justice were ignored, an incomplete and useless coroner’s inquest was held, where her family tried to intervene with information. Yet, no evidence of “foul play” was seen. Mr. State’s Attorney Tomczak did not feel that Drew Peterson was anything more than the ex-husband of a woman who slipped and fell in her bathtub.
But, this man’s opinion about picking a jury is useful? Pfft. Garbage in, garbage out! I’d rather hear how he sleeps at night after the way he ran his investigation of the Peterson/Savio matter!!!!!
complication of sources, as posted at: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/family/drew_peterson/biblio.html
Finally, since Mr. Tomczak is available to offer his insight and expertise concerning this case, maybe someone can question him and do a story about how he let such a slimeball ex-cop slip through his hands. Why anyone would consider what he and his office ignored was justice served.
Thank you….
Thanks Facs and Rescue for the shout-out. It’s good to be back here.
This Judge reminds me of a guy my mother used to work for. She was a legal secretary. He used to yell and scream at her, and once threw a pencil at her and shouted “I’m effing sick of your cancer” when she told him she needed to go through another round of radiation treatment. He was such a pig. He is now a federal judge! Scary.
Hi Aussie. I used to work for a lunatic lawyer like that, whose veins would pop out of her neck for all the screaming and yelling she’d do. I used to imagine her head blowing right off her neck sometimes. She’d throw files and spew venom like a snake.
Good to see you.