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We’re off to keep an eye on the grand jury today so here’s an open thread for you all to continue the great discussion of the last week while we’re away. There are nearly 900 comments on the Week In Review so if anyone wants to start with a clean slate or begin a new topic, feel free to begin here.

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  1. Why hasn’t the media gone after the percieved wrong-doings of FSP and its members the way it’s gone after the presumed wrong-doings of DP and his co-horts?

  2. For the portion we were there today, no one recognizable showed up.

    Grand jury proceedings, testimony, and subpoenaes are secret. No one knows who gets subpoenaed or who testifies unless that person tells someone. News crews basically wait outside the annex building and watch as people enter and leave. If the journalists recognize that person as being involved in the case, then it’s reported that they appeared before the grand jury.

  3. hedidit, on April 24th, 2008 at 7:56 am Said:
    My guess is because FSP is not a suspect in the disappearance of its fourth wife.
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    lol, or in his third wife’s murder. I didn’t see FSP site on Dan Abram’s tonite trying to make itself look normal, either.

  4. FYI:

    Jim Morphey, who is Tom’s older brother and DiP’s stepbrother, testified before the Grand Jury on Thursday (4-24-08).

  5. Oh my.
    I just spent the last hour reading all these posts and I will try and address a few statements that have been made which are false to help avoid further arguments.

    A. The FSP site has legally filed their fundraiser and was issued an ID number. This number will in fact give access to anyone who is interested in finding out the amounts of donations, etc. It is also posted at the FSP site that A PUBLIC VIEWING will be available of all donations shortly. At the same time, when one files for a legal ID number every single penny must be accounted for and the Friends of Stacy Peterson fund has legal representation and accountants who are managing the money.

    B. Whatever Cassandra’s Cales father, mother, cousin, sister of her brother, brother, great aunt, etc has not a hill of beans to do with CASSANDRA CALE. Period. Any reference of what her father or mother did is malicious gossip and shame on those who do these things. I’m sure your own family is not pure. Just because Steve Peterson is Drew’s son does not mean he has a thing to do with anything that his father has done. Speculation and rumors is unfair.

    C. BBismytown absolutely took down the posters in Bolingbrook and admitted it directly to me when I inquired. His reasoning was he felt he did not want the children of Lisa Stebic or Stacy Peterson to see the posters of their mother. I was stunned. I cannot imagine anyone removing posters of loved missing ones. While it is heartwrenching, it also is a comfort for those children to know that people are actually looking for their mom’s. Taking down posters is not going to lessen the pain of the children in what they are already going through in not knowing where their mom is I was definetly saddened by that terrible choice that BBisMytown made.

    D. Cassandra was not out drinking in a bar and went to report Stacy after the bars closed. SHAME on sicko Brodsky and his warped brain. Cassandra was phoning her sister and Drew all day long. She finally got him on her cell phone at 11:15 at night as she sat down the street from his home. (She was already at his home earlier when one of the children said “daddy is not home”) Drew told Cass, at 11:15, that he was “at home”. Cass knew better as she was looking right at the house and saw his car was not there and she could hear the dinging of the door in his car through the cellphone and he was out of breath. THAT is when she really knew something was definetly wrong…Drew further pointed to that when he told Cass that “stacy left home at the airport for a vacation” ..which is what his “original” story to her was. Cass then went to the BB police Dept. Spent time there for them to take a report, etc. They then decided she needed to make the report through the ISP as Drew was a BB officer and they collectively felt it was best. She then had to go to another location to make the report….HENCE is why it was not dated until 2:30 am. However………BRODSKY KNOWS THIS….he purposely manipulated the facts so that people like those here could run amuck with it to create doubt and malicious thoughts. Shame on you all.

    E. Fuzzbuttmom WAS NOT BANNED from the site. She left on her own free will. Her best efforts are placed in doing the physical searches and to help organize the searches. She was not banned. She just didn’t have time in her personal life to keep up with being the moderator.

    F. Initially, I was not banned either. I too decided to leave the forum on the same night as Fuzzbuttmom because frankly I was tired of the drama on the site and one particular member who has a histrionic personality problem and is trying to needle into the personal lives of all the posters and to further delve into phoning all the “higher poster” members on their personal phone numbers and create malicious gossip about other posters.

    For whatever reason I went back to the site just last week and could not log in. I notified the ADM and was told that there is a “fluke” and that AOL folks may have been accidentally banned. My sign in was reinstated. I made exactly 3 posts. One to Cassandra, one post regarding my thoughts on Drew on Greta’s show and one post regarding the earthquake that Illinois had. That is all.

    The next morning I went to sign in and found I was permanently banned. WHY? Because of the histrionics of one “out of control” poster who PM’d the ADM and whined and cried and wanted me out of the forum. WHY? Because she knows that I know that she causes and creates trouble and she liked having free reign of knowing I’m not posting in that site without the likes of me calling on her troublesome ways. She doesn’t know but I received an email from another poster, who I don’t even know from the FSP site, who told me that the “histrionic poster” (I’m not going to name her as those who know her…..know who I mean) and stated that “Lavanda took my post last night and commented back and tore me up”. That was a blatant lie. I made three posts and none were in reference to any posts that she made….and none were certainly in any negative fashion whatsoever.

    What is true, however, is that the site at FSP is managed solely by the ADM who has yet to respond to my inquiries on why he banned me when he HOLDS ALL THE INFORMATION and the truth of what exactly I did post that night. Had he gone and reviewed what I posted he would have seen that it was NOTHING as to what his “histrionic friend” suggested. The woman has some serious issues.

    G. The FSP fundraiser on March 2 was wonderful. Great people were there from both Kathleen’s family as well as Stacy’s. Nobody’s family is free from skeletons or bad situations in their closets. That gives no right to talk about Cassandra in the negative fashion that has transpired here. She is terribly distraught, as well as she should be. She has not only been broken hearted from the loss of her sister…but also from the loss of her niece and nephews……….thanks to Drew.

    H. As for Sharon, thank God that she has the passion in her heart to not give up on the search for Stacy. Sharon was like a mother figure for Stacy. She was in her home every morning w her children. They love Sharon. Sharon has also been banned from the children.

    I. As for the nutso things that people say at the FSP site, it is no different than what is said in MANY public forums…especially those that have so many members. I do know they try their best to get rid of those that are blatantly causing trouble. Except of course of the “histrionic personality gal”…of which I am sure one day they will find out just how much trouble she really causes and of her total untruthfullness. I’m a firm believer that there are bad apples in every bunch and at some point…they get weeded out.

    J. As for Cassandra not posting………..KEEP THIS IN MIND….she is a witness and will be testifying in the case against Drew Peterson once indictments are issued. She has been advised, I’m sure, to not post publicly other than a “hug email” or two. IT WAS NOT CASSANDRA who created the “cass’s army”………it was not Cassandra who created any of the names that people are calling themselves. Those are all regular posters who have come up with those “slogans”. Have some heart people. Cassandra is hurting terribly.

    K. As for ANY woman who is dating Drew, it is ridiculous to even contemplate why one would…however, unless they just climbed out of a cave from the far regions of the universe and do not speak english…do you really think they don’t know what they are getting into? They obviously have some emotional problems…close to the same as the women who write to death row inmates offering to marry them. I say to pray for her to wake up before it’s too late.

    I think I covered all that I can remember. Hope this clears up some of the “confusion”….and puts to rest some of the unnecessary gossip. Remember….Do Unto Others.

    Peace.

    _________________
    Do Unto Others

  6. Here’s the most recent comments from the previous post. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 4:16 pm Said: Edit Comment noway, i have to disagree. it seems like if you put “buried with my spouse” sounds like she is still alive. but its just semantics. savio murdered, DP admits to Stacy, Stacy tells pastor, but way way too late in the game, now each of them have a reason to get rid of each other, way too much motive on both sides, money, kids, houses, all leads to greed. to me it seems its worse when you start out with nothing, and you have a taste of the good life and then that’s taken away, its worse than if you never had a taste of that apple at all. if Stacy didn’t have that guillotine of savios murder hanging over her, she would have been so much better off getting a divorce, custody of the kids, the house, everything. but they had too much dirt on each other and now one more is probably buried under that dirt. just why didn’t she confide in her best friends and sister? if she and Sharon were such best friends, why didn’t she know? Pam Bosch? Cassandra? i cant wait for this to get to court and become public record. that way no one can hide the truth. alot of people are going to be stunned by some of the revelations. 2092. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pm Said: Edit Comment look to the steibc and savio families to show grace and dignity in a very tough situation 2093. myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm Said: Edit Comment hey ustink, haven’t you heard? i “took my toys and went home”. 😉 nothing wrong or devious about that. if it bothers you that much, ustink, i suggest either getting your own toys, or learn how to play nice with others. 2094. glennm69, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm Said: Edit Comment I am amazed…. totally and completely amazed. If anyone posts here, on FSP.com forums, or anywhere else and states an opinion that can be remotely construed as supportive of Drew Peterson that poster is subject to ridicule and harrassment. Mind you…. it is perfectly okay to post things like drew peterson is guilty as heck… he is a real jerk because… fill in the blank here…. but…. once you say things like Drew Peterson is innocent until proven guilty… or Drew has rights too… then the poster is opened up for the same type of public ridicule that drew is going through. I personally think that Drew has a lot to do with the disappearance of Stacy… I also think that Drew has something to do with the untimely departure of Kathleen Savio… I do not like the way Drew conducts himself in public and I believe it speaks volumns about his involvement in both the Kathleen Savio and Stacy Peterson cases.. But…… Drew has NOT been convicted of any crime yet.. he is a suspect…. but law enfrcement has had many suspects that were completely innocent……. I have said before and I mantain that the justice system in this country is among the best and if anyone has real evidence to affect any ongoing criminal investigation the evidence should be turned over to the proper investigating authority. For statements like the one I just made I have been accussed of bullying and harrassing everyone on fsp.com forums (NOT) I have been accused of doing the same thing here… (NOT) The scary thing is this…. that so many people are willing to throw out the law… and judge anyone for anything in this country………. whatever happened to liberty and justice for all? what has happened to “guilty until proven innocent’? Have the communists snuck up behind us and taken over this great country? or is it just sneaky old democrats calling the shots… making it look like a free republic, but instead wallowing in socialistic communism? Are there any realk Americans left out there or am I all alone here? 2095. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm Said: Edit Comment glenn perfect post 2096. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pm Said: Edit Comment thats the gestapo for you, you have no opinion but their’s. at least here we have a place to speak freely 2097. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 6:59 pm Said: Edit Comment I think glenn meant to say “innocent until proven guilty”. 2098. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:12 pm Said: Edit Comment he did 2099. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:15 pm Said: Edit Comment glennm69, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm Said: ………. whatever happened to liberty and justice for all? what has happened to “guilty until proven innocent’? _______________________ This is what I was talking about. 2100. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm Said: Edit Comment glennm69, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm Said: but…. once you say things like Drew Peterson is innocent until proven guilty… or Drew has rights too… then the poster is opened up for the same type of public ridicule that drew is going through. and this is what i was talking about. 2101. letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:39 pm Said: Edit Comment My take and theory on this case, not that it means anything. Just to clear up a couple of things. Lavanda you said Cass went to the Bolingbrook PD first. I believe they said she went to the Downers Grove PD first, then to Bolingbrook, then onto the ISP. The timing is a bit off. If she was at the Bolingbrook PD at 2:00am and didnt end up at the ISP until 4:00am, that is a LONG time, considering the ISP is just miles away. I have always had a problem with her statement about Stacy fearing for her life, but waiting until Sunday evening to do anything. If she was in constant contact with Stacy from Friday on, then not talking to her at all on Sunday and not reporting anything until late evening…something is right there. And she claims she was at Pam’s house, and I know Pam has sense, so it’s hard to argue she is young and didnt know what to do. I looked at the slideshow of pictures, and not in a single one did Stacy look unhappy, sad, scared, abused etc. And their were many pictures. You can’t hide sad eyes, and she didnt have them. I suspect Drew was a huge source of pride for the Cales family. He provided for them in way’s they have never expierenced before. My theory is Drew starting talking about his retirement, and Stacy went into a panic mode. Again, she was young, and I’m sure she never though that through…that he would retire, and want to spend more time with her and the kids. I don’t think they figured into her future plans. We know she had access to the computer. We know for a fact, which I might add, we know very little for fact information, that she was talking with Scott R, and doing racy text messages. It would not be hard for me to believe that Scott wasn’t the only person she was doing this with. She wanted out, but after thinking it through realized that by divorcing Drew she wouldnt have the lifestyle she and her family enjoyed up to this point. Of course he would have to pay child support and possibly maintence for awhile, but I can guarentee you the vacations, plastic surgery, being a stay at home mom, all the stuff would come to an end. I believe she and Cass hatch the plan that she would “disappear” and Drew would be arrested immed., She would then come out of hiding saying things to the like of “I had to leave, I was in fear for my life” stuff like that. I don’t think they thought it through enough. I think they thought he would be arrested, tried for Kathleen murder, and Stacy would then have access to everything they jointly held, including the kids and the money. They never imagined that Drew wouldnt be arrested right away. They never imagined that Stacy herself would be talked about in regards to Kathleen’s murder. We have to remember also, that when and if, this goes to a trial, many of these players will have to take the stand as witnesses. I can almost guarentee you that when and if it happens, Brodsky will be second chair, and the big dogs will be called in. Most of these so called witnesses will be eaten alive on the stand by a decent defense attorney. This is not an open and shut case. And another question maybe some of you can answer. It seems like Stacy enjoyed pictures, and picture taking. Is there any pictures of her and her so-called best friend Sharon? 2102. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:47 pm Said: Edit Comment letthetruth thats all weve been trying to say but have our heads handed to us by the fanatics that deem freedom of speech is only meant for them & not for everyone else. nothing is etched in stone until all the facts r on the table. 2103. myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:02 pm Said: Edit Comment I do wonder too at what Cass did all day between when she first realized something was not right at Stacy’s house, and when she finally got over there at 11pm. Seems that when she did get on the ball and try to file a missing person’s report, she got the run around from some of the depts mentioned, yep. And from what was said in the media early on, she did manage to get someone to finally take the missing person’s report, yet they in turn did not *file* it until about 4am, which makes it look like she didn’t report it until then. When actually she’d been trying for hours to report it. I’ve always thought that at least that was unfair to her. Still curious tho why it took until 11pm for her to go over to the house in the first place. 2104. myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm Said: Edit Comment good point!! of all the pictures we’ve seen, i’ve yet to see even ONE pic of Stacy and Sharon together. odd. one would think sharon would have been clutching each and every pic of her and Stacy — if there were any. it kind of speaks volumes that she hasn’t! 2105. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:11 pm Said: Edit Comment theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm Said: glennm69, on April 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm Said: but…. once you say things like Drew Peterson is innocent until proven guilty… or Drew has rights too… then the poster is opened up for the same type of public ridicule that drew is going through. and this is what i was talking about. ______________________________ *AHEM* And, vice-a-versa, as we’ve seen just in this thread alone. Nobody I know likes getting bashed, but I’ve certainly gotten bashed reliably and quite nastily here… but so what? Doesn’t change the FACT that, at least in the USA, you are innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is in LE’s lap. Nothing’s changed with regard to that as far as I know. 2106. letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:16 pm Said: Edit Comment As far Cass’s reporting time, 4:00am would be the time she entered the ISP and asked to speak to an officer. It’s usually not the time the report is filed, its usually the time the report is being reported. 2107. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm Said: Edit Comment myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm Said: good point!! of all the pictures we’ve seen, i’ve yet to see even ONE pic of Stacy and Sharon together. odd. one would think sharon would have been clutching each and every pic of her and Stacy — if there were any. it kind of speaks volumes that she hasn’t! another point on pictures is that all the talk from the family saying stacy was not allowed to be with them yet most all the pictures I saw was of her with the family smiling & carrying on with drew in some. it doesnt look like they werent allowed to be around. the father had his motorcycle at drew & stacys house too. 2108. myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Said: Edit Comment hmmm. well, i guess the media reported it wrong earlier on then. not like that is a surprise. lol lots of confusing things about this case. 2109. myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Said: Edit Comment that’s true sami, sure something to consider! 2110. letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:25 pm Said: Edit Comment I believe most family function probably took place at Drew and Stacy’s. She doesn’t look like a gal that was kept from family and friends. Usually that is a sign of control, keeping the other party from family and friends, and in this case that didn’t happen. 2111. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pm Said: Edit Comment Stacy wasn’t wearing her wedding rings in the holiday-themed family pics taken in Sept. ‘07. 2112. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:28 pm Said: Edit Comment basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pm Said: Stacy wasn’t wearing her wedding rings in the holiday-themed family pics taken in Sept. ‘07. many many times ive take my rings off especially if im doing alot of cooking & cleaning up on the holidays. 2113. letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pm Said: Edit Comment My rings always come off when cooking and cleaning also. And someday’s I just plain forget to put them on. I get out of the shower, put my lotion on, dress, and get busy, and forget the rings. 2114. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm Said: Edit Comment But it *wasn’t* the holidays- it was September 2007. And judging by how nice they were dresses, I doubt that Stacy was doing dishes right before the pics were taken. 2115. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm Said: Edit Comment But it *wasn’t* the holidays- it was September 2007. And judging by how nice they were dressed, I doubt that Stacy was doing dishes right before the pics were taken. 2116. letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:34 pm Said: Edit Comment I dont put much weight into the picture and the ring. There could be any number of reasons the ring wasnt on her finger. 2117. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:36 pm Said: Edit Comment oh my what was i thinking. there has never been a man or woman that takes there rings off other than the holidays. based on that alone my wish for innocent until proven guilty & looking at all the characters in the case has now been changed to guilty without trying to see what EVERYBODY is hiding. 2118. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:41 pm Said: Edit Comment Good luck with that. 2119. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:42 pm Said: Edit Comment i only wonder if kathleen had her ring on when stacy & drew were having their affair or when she was murdered. 2120. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm Said: Edit Comment If that’s all you “only wonder”, then this should set your mind at ease: Kathleen wore her wedding rings until she found out about the affair. Then they were stolen from her home, in her own words, by DiP. So, no, she was not wearing them when she was murdered. 2121. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:25 pm Said: Edit Comment but she was wearing them when angel stacy & devious drew were screwing behind her back? u r right-i imagine she couldnt have been wearing them when she was murdered & drew & stacy looked those poor boys in the eyes & then got a boob job for stacy. i also wonder if kathleens money helped pay for stacys boob job, car & so much more. but hey we should worry more that stacy DIDNT have a ring versus Kathleen having one on when they were having an affair & possibly plotting a murder, just a murder or covering up for a murder. 2122. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:32 pm Said: Edit Comment i also wonder if stacy got a nice picture of kathleen when she helped drew taunt kathleen with kathleens very own camera. do u think she got a good shot of kathleens ringless finger? oh the fun stacy & drew must have had that day. see? is look at both of them not just one. i am open to the total truth not half of it. most fsp would just bash drew for showing up with the camera & not allow anyone to state that stacy was running the camera. that is what u call only half of the story that is only allowed by that kitty litter turd gang. 2123. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:38 pm Said: Edit Comment What part of my answer was not crystal clear to you? 1) Kathleen wore her wedding rings until she found out about the affair. 2) Then they were stolen from her home, in her own words, by DiP. 3) So, no, she was not wearing them when she was murdered. 2124. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm Said: Edit Comment what part of my questions could u not address. was the camera in stacys hand or not when her & drew taunted kathleen? did kathleens money help pay for stacys boob job, car & more? hard questions? 2125. theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:51 pm Said: Edit Comment seems to me that BOTH stacy & drew didnt own an ounce of conscience-BOTH 2126. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 10:34 pm Said: Edit Comment theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm Said: what part of my questions could u not address. was the camera in stacys hand or not when her & drew taunted kathleen? did kathleens money help pay for stacys boob job, car & more? hard questions? ________________________ 1) According to Kathleen’s letter to IL States Attorney Elizbeth Fragale, dated Nov. 14, 2002, Stacy was videotaping the entire fracas. http://www.acandyrose.com/kathleen_savio_11142002letter.htm 2) Unknown. I’d need alll their financial records to figure that one out. 2127. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 10:50 pm Said: Edit Comment letthetruthbefree, on April 28th, 2008 at 7:39 pm Said: And another question maybe some of you can answer. It seems like Stacy enjoyed pictures, and picture taking. Is there any pictures of her and her so-called best friend Sharon? _________________________________ wow, how come no one has noticed that before? not one pic of stacy and the self-proclaimed best friend? very very good 2128. facsmiley, on April 28th, 2008 at 10:52 pm Said: Edit Comment From what I’ve read and seen it’s pretty clear that Stacy and Kathleen had no love between them, which isn’t surprising. The affair, the taunts and skirmishes are public record. The inspiring thing is the way the Cales, Savios and Domans were able to put aside those old animosities in the face of much greater evil. This is from a November 13th article in the Herald News: “Bosco acknowledged the coming week, with the prospect of Savio’s exhumation, will be hard for her counterparts in Savio’s camp. “We connect,” she said. “To what level, I don’t know. We’re always in support of each other.” Doman said the families have been in contact and that his sister, Melissa Doman, and the half-sister of Stacy Peterson, Cassandra Cales, have exchanged computer messages.” Who knows if the good feelings will last. When/if things go to trial, it could get uglier. I guess we can’t know that at this point. 2129. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:08 pm Said: Edit Comment Lavanda Dolce, on April 25th, 2008 at 9:28 pm Said: You all need to STOP with the “stacy covered up kathleens murder”…because NOBODY KNOWS THAT AS TRUTH. _______________________________________ stacy knew of dp actions as to savio’s murder. he told her, she told shori. thats a fact, plain and simple as can be. put shori on the stand and see if the jury agrees. lavanda, you got run out of town on a rail at fsp, get over it. 2130. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm Said: Edit Comment I think everyone needs to take a step back and realize that all of our questions may NEVER be answered. That, too, is a fact. 2131. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:17 pm Said: Edit Comment theoriginalsami, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm Said: myst1, on April 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm Said: good point!! of all the pictures we’ve seen, i’ve yet to see even ONE pic of Stacy and Sharon together. odd. one would think sharon would have been clutching each and every pic of her and Stacy — if there were any. it kind of speaks volumes that she hasn’t! another point on pictures is that all the talk from the family saying stacy was not allowed to be with them yet most all the pictures I saw was of her with the family smiling & carrying on with drew in some. it doesnt look like they werent allowed to be around. the father had his motorcycle at drew & stacys house too. ______________________________________ damn, if that isnt some of the smartest observations i have see pointed out so far. now that its pointed out, go back and look at the pics of stacy, how happy she looks in every photo, with dp, with her sister, with her dad, all of them, and then you have to ask, where is bug-eyed sharon with stacy? not a one published so far. sami and letthetruthbefree got it 100% right. lets get some of the fsp to rebut that topic. i feel like i got hit by lightening. this is the kind of stuff thats gonna make or break this. come on cassandras army/gestapo. refute the joy stacy showed in all those pics. 2132. facsmiley, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm Said: Edit Comment True, true. If we are to believe Pastor Schori (personally, I do) then Stacy was at least informed of the murder on the night that it happened and instructed by her husband on what to tell the police (his alibi). By her very silence she was complict in concealing the crime of Kathleen’s death at Drew’s hands (if it happened, and I believe it did). It may not have gone further than that. I’m not even sure if she ever had to make a statement to the police about the events of that night. Does anyone here know if she did? That being said, her husband had no right to murder her. Maybe in a Greek tragedy we could see some sort of justice in it, but our court system doesn’t work that way. I just wish the case would move in some direction. Somewhere there are answers. Somewhere the story about what happened to Stacy is being told. Even if someday it’s revealed only through DNA, or a fingerprint or some forgotten email, it’s there. 2133. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm Said: Edit Comment You’re kidding… right? 2134. basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:25 pm Said: Edit Comment bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:17 pm Said: damn, if that isnt some of the smartest observations i have see pointed out so far. now that its pointed out, go back and look at the pics of stacy, how happy she looks in every photo, with dp, with her sister, with her dad, all of them, and then you have to ask, where is bug-eyed sharon with stacy? not a one published so far. sami and letthetruthbefree got it 100% right. lets get some of the fsp to rebut that topic. i feel like i got hit by lightening. this is the kind of stuff thats gonna make or break this. come on cassandras army/gestapo. refute the joy stacy showed in all those pics. _________________ You’re kidding… right? 2135. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: Edit Comment basherette, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm Said: I think everyone needs to take a step back and realize that all of our questions may NEVER be answered. That, too, is a fact. _______________________________________ stacy fought with savio, fact stacy was underage having an affair with a married man, fact dp told stacy he killed savio, fact stacy never told anyone for four years , fact stacy lived the good pampered trophy wife life compared to what she was used to, fact!!!! best friends sharon and cassandra knew nothing and claim to be as close to stacy as possible, fact. racy text messages to rosetto, fact no body, fact no murder scene, fact no murder weapon, fact any othe facts missing? 2136. facsmiley, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:28 pm Said: Edit Comment Yeah, I can’t really take seriously any conclusions drawn from the fact that Stacy was smiling in family photos. The only conclusion you can really draw from them is that she smiled in family photos and…most people do. 2137. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:31 pm Said: Edit Comment facsmiley, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm Said: That being said, her husband had no right to murder her. ______________________________ facs, i couldnt agree more, no one has a right to take anyones life like that. the fact is , we dont know, like you said. 2138. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:35 pm Said: Edit Comment eyes are the windows to the soul, there is no sadness in stacys eyes in any of those pics, look closely at them. i would love to see pics of stacy in october and see if those eyes are smiling or not. i believe that heart and soul. compare pictures of lisa stebic and those of stacy. look at the eyes, wow 2139. facsmiley, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:36 pm Said: Edit Comment Bolingbrook, most of what you list as facts are conclusions you’ve drawn from what we’ve seen attested to in the news and in interviews and some aren’t even that (the assertion that cass and sharon know nothing). We really can’t know at this point what LE inforcement know about the case or what evidence they have gathered. As much as we want to know the facts and debate here, we all have to accept that we are only to privy to what is at this point public knowledge. So we can debate and discuss but there’s no point getting gruff or overlyemotional, when really we’re all in teh same boat when it comes to knowing anything about the case. There are many facts missing. We don’t know them yet and some of them will probably never be public knowledge. For one thing, I really wonder what Drew dreams about at night. Even more I wonder what he thinks about right before he falls asleep. 2140. bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:38 pm Said: Edit Comment fasc, i wouldnt go there, what dp dreams and whats in his head, now thats scary 2141. basherette, on April 29th, 2008 at 12:07 am Said: Edit Comment bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: dp told stacy he killed savio, fact _________________ I say: DISPUTED _________________ bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: no body, fact no murder scene, fact no murder weapon, fact _________________ I say: YET 2142. basherette, on April 29th, 2008 at 12:09 am Said: Edit Comment bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: stacy never told anyone for four years , fact __________________ I say: UNKNOWN 2143. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:23 am Said: Edit Comment whatever happened to liberty and justice for all? what has happened to “guilty until proven innocent’? ************************************** How about we wait until Drew Peterson goes to trial and THEN we can argue your statement above. That is where it counts. Not in a forum of public opinion. There is overwhelming and convincing evidence that suggests Drew Peterson is not innocent in the dissapearance of Stacy. I suppose you believe the ISP and the FBI are also involved in this so-called-scam that you think Cassandra and Stacy pulled off? Please. At least our opinions are based on the history of Drew Peterson and common sense. Yours are just plain bizarre! Drew has a known history of using his badge for his own personal use to intimidate people; he had NO BUSINESS courting a 17 year old child when he was a man of 46 years old and a member of the police department. I’m sorry, but in my book…that is one sick sick puppy. He not only slept with and courted a 17 year old girl but when it all comes out you will be sickened by further instigations that he caused and created. Instead, you folks bash Stacy…and TOTALLY ignore the fact that he instigated the entire situations between Kathleen and Stacy….as well as blew out of proportion the “attack Stacy made on Kathleen”. Please. Spare me. They tossled over a video camera that you can bet Drew planted in Stacy’s hand and lied and manipulated her to capture video of Kathleen. Nobody knows the truth yet as to what Drew has used for his excuse about Kathleen. For all we know he painted her as some monster child abuser. ANY 17 year old girl is more than likely going to believe the stupid tales a divorcing old man who wears a badge tells them. As for Stacy, she was a 17 year old girl….not a grown woman…I don’t care if she was “legal age to date”…he was a grown man and new better than to play these manipulative games to entice a problem and as far as dating a 17 year old girl….that is as close to being a pedophile as I can come up with…and if you feel he is innocent and he did no wrong in dating a 17 year old, how about introducing your own 17 year old daughter to him? After all “it’s legal” and he is innocent until proven guilty, right? By the way, what business did he have ROLLERBLADING at 46 years old with a 17 year old girl past the front sidewalk of his soon-to-be-ex-wife? If you don’t see that man is sick and his history of stalking and abusive ways is true…then you all better go back and learn all there is about the case that has been released to the public………….the rest will come at trial. 2144. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:26 am Said: Edit Comment LOL, oh please. Who gives a flyin’ hoot if one was banned from FSP? Fact is, between my forum and Kimmer’s….we outshine FSP. 2145. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:33 am Said: Edit Comment Bolingbrook, do you really think the media wants to portray the sad looking pictures of Stacy? Heck no. Unfortunately it’s all about glamour. The media can be one’s best friend and one’s worst enemy. That is pretty obvious when most of the major stories carried on missing woman all happen to be beautiful. What about the missing young woman who is overweight and is not so pretty? Why don’t we see those? Of course you’re not going to see any sad pictures of Stacy. Also, most pictures of Stacy is always from some type of event , party or whatever she hosted and in those cases happiness can clearly be seen in her eyes while her family and friends surround her. Shame you couldn’t see a snapshot of Stacy when Drew was ridiculing and mocking her…probably another indicative sign of why a young girl has a boob job, tummy tuck, braces, etc. What exactly was HE telling her about herself that she felt the need to improve or change for him? See…you just don’t know about all that you think you know. I’m sure she was not smiling when that gunshot went off through the floorboards. To bad a picture wasn’t snapped then for you to gloat on. Good gracious. 2146. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:37 am Said: Edit Comment letthetruthbefree, have YOU been in Sharon’s home to know if there are pictures of Sharon and Stacy? Why would you assume there are not? Why should the media put out pictures of Sharon and Stacy anyhow? This is about Stacy, for Sharon. Not about Sharon. 2147. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:44 am Said: Edit Comment Bolingbrook, you said “stacy knew of dp actions as to savio’s murder. he told her, she told shori. thats a fact, plain and simple as can be.”.. ********************************* It’s not plain and simple as can be. There is much more behind the words of what she has told Shori. Such as what did Drew tell Stacy what happened? We don’t know what he has told Stacy that caused her to try and protect him. We don’t know if he created a completely false scenario as to what happened that may have caused her to believe him and protect him. Maybe it did take her a bit of time before the realization hit her that perhaps his “story of how Kathleen died” that night, wasn’t true? For all we know he could have told her he was on a big undercover case and some mobster hog tied him and kathleen and murdered kathleen in front of him…and was coming for Stacy next if she speaks out…and he had no choice but to set the stage as an accident? We just don’t know. But what we DO know, and supported by experts (of which neither you or I are) ….is Stacy dissappearance is not due to her own leaving and she is presumbed dead and her husband is the prime (and ONLY) suspect. Gheez, I guess it never occured to you that the ISP just may have more information than you, eh? 2148. lavandadolce, on April 29th, 2008 at 4:51 am Said: Edit Comment bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: stacy never told anyone for four years , fact ************************************* Not a fact. You don’t know who else she may have told that is not allowed to publicly talk about it and/or the ISP doesn’t want released. Nobody knows, so it’s not fact. 2149. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 5:32 am Said: Edit Comment basherette, on April 29th, 2008 at 12:09 am Said: bolingbrook60440, on April 28th, 2008 at 11:27 pm Said: stacy never told anyone for four years , fact __________________ I say: UNKNOWN unknown? did she tell cassandra? that would be interesting if cassandra or someone else knew. we constantly here how she says nobody was closer than her & stacy. as far as not being able to read into pictures. BASH-u r the one who brought up the picture of stacy without the ring. reading into that. i just thought u wanted to discuss pictures not just one picture that u & fsp handpicked to pick apart. 2150. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:17 am Said: Edit Comment lavonda u try to paint such a sweet picture of stacy. thats fine but not realistic. fsp itself has thrown around the fact that kathleen informed authorities that drew brought stacy to kathleens house with a camera & fought with her. thats a fact right? what they always keep out is the entire fact. kathleen also stated that stacy taunted her also. i once again dont like drew lets stick to the entire facts not cover up the ugly stuff that might just include other parties. nobody is bashing stacy. facts r facts. just as in drew. the difference here is that none r trying to incite other people to put visine in stacys drink or thinking her missing is ok. it seems its ok to incite that towards drew. nobody wants anyone to be murdered. 2151. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:19 am Said: Edit Comment can somebody please put the quote by isp that stacys disappearance was not on her own will? just curious as to where or who said that. this is not sarcasm 2152. myst1, on April 29th, 2008 at 7:38 am Said: Edit Comment sami, i doubt that you’ll find a direct quote by isp. it’s what cass told fsp that isp had told her. 2153. letthetruthbefree, on April 29th, 2008 at 7:39 am Said: Edit Comment Lavanda – First of all, Sharon loves a camera, and never, ever misses a chance to be on it. I would think she would be totting a picture of herself and Stacy around. No, I havent been in her home, nor would I care to be in her home. And secondly, if you truly believe the ISP and the FBI have so much evidence, then you are being led down a golden path. Truth be told, if they had that much evidence, Drew would have been arrested by now. The ISP does not have 150 men working around the clock on this case, they have sent a good majority back to their posts. One was even interviewed in his hometown base of the Quad Cities. The ISP does NOT have the manpower to put that many people on one case. Stacy is one person of many missing in Illinois. And am I right, or am I wrong, did they not start collecting funds at the end of 2007? If so, why wasnt the paper work put into place right away. Why was it ONLY when questions arose that the paperwork was completed. This isnt brain surgery to do an accounting. It’s not like there has been so many searches, people coming in from out of town etc to help. You say this isnt about Sharon….Well she has clearly made it about herself. She is the neighbor that a good majority of people would HATE to have as a neighbor. I’m local, and I’m here to tell you this story has lost legs here. People are just plain sick of the antics of the FSP. I was at a party this past weekend in the town next to Bolingbrook. I asked a couple of people about this, and most of them said something in the lines of, “they didnt find her yet?” If they would just so a BIT of class people would be more willing to listen, in my opinion. Lisa’s family is all class and how they have handled themselves, and the case. Stacy’s is a trainwreck at best. 2154. feistygurl, on April 29th, 2008 at 7:51 am Said: Edit Comment the neigbor lady & her shrine of flowers & posters is totally out of line, i would hate her to be my neighbor. id say go for it if it were just dp living there hes a big boy. but its a totally different story with the children. anyone have a clue on how long a 3 yr old would remember a missing mom? i want stacy home, the people involved in her missing & kathleens death brought to justice. oh & to the people on fsp who keep reporting when the kids are home alone do you think this is wise. its ignorant! 2155. amandareckonwith, on April 29th, 2008 at 8:18 am Said: Edit Comment That totally gets to me when that crazy woman reports on the kids being home alone. What kind of freak tells the internet when kids are alone? SPECIFIC kids. Oh please. Like there are not crazies on that very site who might go there in the name of “whatever” and do something stupid. 2156. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 8:26 am Said: Edit Comment didnt sharon say that they found out who left all those notes on her lawn? a crazy person that was watching the case & got too involved? so after that she reports on the children being alone. that in itself is a dangerous lady. 2157. amandareckonwith, on April 29th, 2008 at 8:32 am Said: Edit Comment But a shrine next door and posters on the lawn and windows is great for the kids. Don’t get me wrong— a shrine is fine, but not next door for ballbusting. They do not care about those kids. Proven time and again. Go plant a tree and put a plaque on it. Start a scholarship fund at her college for a nursing student. SOMETHING. Do SOMETHING for Stacy. Not for Drew and Sharon! 2158. ladybeebugsby, on April 29th, 2008 at 8:41 am Said: Edit Comment good morning everyone – this is my first post.. Ive been a registered member of fsp but ive never posted.. never had anything to say… BUT… I’ve seen it all now!! Can those idiots not come up with their own ideas.. now they have to copy what Lisa Stebic’s family did for her… They are now talking “A Walk for Stacy” 2159. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 8:56 am Said: Edit Comment I bet we will see a picture of sharon and stacy real soon now that it has been brought up. ladybeebugsby ofcourse they can’t come up with their own original ideas and they wish they had half the clasas that Lisa’s family does. I agree none of the pictures of stacy show the disparging eyes of an abused woman. they do show a very pretty will manicured well keep stay at home mother, IMO. 2160. cfs7360, on April 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am Said: Edit Comment theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:19 am Said: can somebody please put the quote by isp that stacys disappearance was not on her own will? just curious as to where or who said that. this is not sarcasm Sami, the statement below was taken from this very site. I’m surprised you didn’t see/read it here before you asked. The statement was also sent by the ISP to the Dan Abrams shows the other night, as well a Larry King, but you must not have seen either of those programs. Maybe you should pay more attention to what is being said, written and shown in the media before you post so much crap on here. You might be a little better informed on the details of this case before you go spouting all your nasty garbage. Bosco’s assertion was supported by a statement from the Illinois State Police released to King Friday night. “Stacy Peterson did not voluntarily cease all contact with her children, family and friends,” the statement read. “The investigation continues to make progress proving that claim.” The statement, as read by King, also expressed confidence that an arrest will be made in the case. It marked the first time police have publicly stated such a belief and those close to Stacy Peterson said it brought a sense of relief. 2161. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 9:18 am Said: Edit Comment im still trying to figure if drew kept stacy from the family as they claim all the time which would mean cassandra would have a hard time stating the facts that she keeps stating that she saw with drew & stacy. or they were together quite often which would go against the claims of stacy being held under drew not to be with the family. stacys father having his motorcycle at stacy & drews house shows “allowed” closeness. im close to my family but dont see them half as much as cassandra says she was with stacy. totally contradicts & extremely confusing. which is it? was cassandra close to stacy & saw her all the time as she states. or did drew keep stacy away from the family as cassandra also states? 2162. wewillfindstacy, on April 29th, 2008 at 9:22 am Said: Edit Comment theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:19 am Said: can somebody please put the quote by isp that stacys disappearance was not on her own will? just curious as to where or who said that. this is not sarcasm ——————- myst1, on April 29th, 2008 at 7:38 am Said: sami, i doubt that you’ll find a direct quote by isp. it’s what cass told fsp that isp had told her. _______________________________ ISP’s statement that Stacy did not leave the house of her own free will that morning was read by Larry King when Drew and Brodsky appeared on the show. http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/peterson/x1320878959 For the full statement, you’ll have to read the transcripts from LKL I think. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/11/lkl.01.html From the transcript: KING: The Illinois state police supplied us, by the way, with a statement about the investigation into Stacy Peterson’s disappearance. It says in part, “As stated previously, Stacy Peterson did not voluntarily cease all contact with her children, family and friends. The investigation continues to make progress proving that claim. We are confident the investigation’s momentum will culminate in an arrest.” 2163. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am Said: Edit Comment cfs yes LK did read that statement from ISP. Drew’s response was they have been saying that all along. My question to LE is if they have proof she did not leave the house willingly then why was the house not made into a crime scene to preserve evidence. Isn’t that standard operation procedure to mark off the scene of the crime? 2164. rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:16 am Said: Edit Comment COMMENT FROM freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:02 am ************************* I’m not, by any means, privy to what LE did to mark off any crime scenes, are you? I mean, I assume, during their initial contact with Peterson, they would question him and scrutinize him, since he had a missing wife and the husband is looked at first, but once they developed information, didn’t they do just that – get warrants and search their home? I mean to say, once cadaver dogs were brought in and they had positive results, didn’t they come back and take vehicles, guns, etc? I’m not following your point, then. 2165. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:18 am Said: Edit Comment lavanda comes on here in the weee hours of the morning, yapping away so she has the whole blog to herself. whats wrong with a 47 yr old rollerskating in his own neighborhood? because you cant? as for photos, dont you think the family would b e more inclinded to show such a poor fragile scared stacy, afraid of the big bad murderer? the second she complained about dp, the family if they cared, should have stepped in to help. what did they do, nothing? the one aunt from california said stacy confided in her about dp’s behavior. why didnt she help? all i know if that were my sister/daughter/neice i would have been to every law enforcement officei could find to have her rescued. one more think, LAVONDA, sharon is such a publicity hound, she can not resist the camera. if there were pics of her and stacy, her loving best friend, they would have been posted. if you think i am kidding, google sharon and look for yourself. 2166. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:23 am Said: Edit Comment so stacy told her pastor & not her best friend cassandra. odd. did cassandra know? 2167. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:27 am Said: Edit Comment if cassandra knew and didnt say, thats another can of worms, but never mind sami, according to lavonda, she wasnt old enough either to know that it was wrong to cover a murder, notice i said IF cassandra knew. 2168. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:29 am Said: Edit Comment rescueapet my point is if LE has evidence in the house that proves that stacy did not leave willingly then that area of the house would be an official crime scene. What the rules and regs are for a crime scence I don’t know for sure but I’m pretty sure one of the rules is not to let the suspect live where the crime scene happened. IE the dogs hitting in the bedroom. Since the house was not an official crime scene, ie drew is still living in it even right after the dogs hit. IMO LE is waiting on the new law to allow hearsay because that is all they have. 2169. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:32 am Said: Edit Comment http://findstacypeterson.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=j12mp89glqecbrqaalo3ibk4m1&topic=6929.0 at least “NOWAY” on fsp shows some sense. way to go!! 2170. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 am Said: Edit Comment bb ur link doesnt come up 2171. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:35 am Said: Edit Comment sami I agree the pictures don’t show a controling husband they show stacy with her family at her home and other places many pictures. I think alot has been embelished, it appears to me that Stacy was spoiled and what stacy wanted stacy got from drew. now I will say that most hubby’s would be checking up on their 23 yo pretty wife if they thought she was having an affair. IE text messages, reaching out to old boyfriends brothers, having dinner with them, etc. who knows I doubt we will ever know the truth. 2172. rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:42 am Said: Edit Comment freedom – might I ask – do you know the Peterson’s personally? Is that how you can make the statement that you think Stacy was spoiled and what she wanted she got? I’m not making this personal, I’m just asking whether you know them personally or not. 2173. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:44 am Said: Edit Comment i just tried it again sami, it worked on this end noway Member Posts: 1101 Re: I got an idea, a walk for stacy. « Reply #7 on: Today at 10:38:02 AM » ——————————————————————————– I don’t know … doesn’t it just seem like you are copying off Lisa Stebic’s family’s idea? Not that other people haven’t had “walks” in support of an organization but coming so soon after Lisa’s … and because many of you participated … Can’t we come up with something else? Something that hasn’t been done? noway Member Posts: 1101 Re: I got an idea, a walk for stacy. « Reply #10 on: Today at 10:56:43 AM » ——————————————————————————– Quote from: lmnm175 on Today at 10:52:04 AM I still think the walk is a great idea and i dont think lisa’s family would feel we were trying to “copy” them….i think they would understand that we are desperate to keep the searches going…..and we’ll do whatever helps that cause. That being said i also think a giant block party on pheasant chase would be fun to…music, giant jumpy thingys for the kids….food, drinks and friends…. I like the idea of a block party … but really what about Stacy’s kids? I mean think how they would feel not being able to go. I really think you have to consider that. If you’re going to attract lots of people, you have to consider traffic … and a cul-de-sac traffic jam can be a real nightmare. Speaking from experience. What about having it in a park … lots of room and parking. _______________________________ there you go sami. 2174. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am Said: Edit Comment rescueapet NO I don’t know drew personally this is a big country and many follow this case and MOST don’t know drew nor stacy. It’s my opinion and I stated it appears stacy was spoiled. 23 yo stay at home mom, beautiful house could spend what she wanted to fix it up, motorcyle, diamond rings, crusises, many plastic surgery’s. That appears spoiled to me and also high maintenance. also a little tidbit I found on crime scenes. In the case of a house, the entire property will usually be restricted; http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/487519/how_to_secure_a_violent_crime_scene.html 2175. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:56 am Said: Edit Comment rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:42 am Said: freedom – might I ask – do you know the Peterson’s personally? Is that how you can make the statement that you think Stacy was spoiled and what she wanted she got? I’m not making this personal, I’m just asking whether you know them personally or not. better yet do u know them personally? know stacy personally? from what cassandra & sharon say stacy wasnt allowed to know anyone but drew. thats what confuses me. everyone knew their business 24/7 yet they say drew wouldnt let stacy hand or talk with them. which statements are true? 2176. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 10:59 am Said: Edit Comment lol maybe fsp can learn something from Lisa’s family, like shutting down the forum!! 2177. rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:01 am Said: Edit Comment sami – I wasn’t talking to you. However, I am going to make a comment here. You continue to make this a personal vendetta against SPeterson and her family and friends. So be it. I’ll leave this board, then, for you to continue your crusade. But, might I just add, that you repeat, over and over, that SPeterson is not a saint, nor are any of her supporters. Might I remind you that DPeterson has had the opportunity, repeatedly, on national tv, to point that out and has, in fact done so. Thus, his missing wife, her family, friends, and anyone else that has been involved in DPeterson’s lifetime, has had their reputations presented before the viewers on national tv. Even fsp has not escaped from his or Brodsky’s comments on tv. Now, I turn your personal forum back over to you. You’re Gatehouse’s problem, not mine. 2178. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:03 am Said: Edit Comment [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B30Uk4Prn8&w=680&h=413] now how is this for reaching? 2179. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:11 am Said: Edit Comment resueapet why is it that anytime someone asks a legit question concerning stacy or cassandra they r accused of bashing or having a vendetta? cassandra makes a lot of what she calls factual statements that contradict. enlighten me then. let it make some sense please. how can somebody be cut off from the world by drew yet everyone states they know everything that went on 24/7? how can pictures reflect that stacy was in fact allowed to mingle with friends & family but cassandra states no? why does it hurt to ask those questions? why not open all the facts instead of just a one sided discussion about drew only. how many times do u have to hear that most of us dont like drew but we aint drinking the stacy is innocent kool aid either. are we only allowed to ask hard questions about drew? tell me. is it only to be one sided? is that the way to the entire truth? 2180. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:11 am Said: Edit Comment OMG drew’s soo slick he confesses on TV interviews when you play the audio backwards. send that to LE that is a confession. wah wah wah killed wah wah wah 2181. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:15 am Said: Edit Comment bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:03 am Said: [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B30Uk4Prn8&w=680&h=413] now how is this for reaching? bb that is pathetic 2182. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:16 am Said: Edit Comment freedom we’re not playing by the rules of fsp. they can ask but we cant. 2183. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:24 am Said: Edit Comment sami that’s been par for the course since day one. just look at how LD comes out here shaking her finger at us for all the terrible things we are asking. no stacy could not have done this no stacy could not have done that. I thought LD was local the way she talked then someone asked her and sure enough she’s not local. it’s just damage control be going on since november and stacy is still missing no where to be found, no arrests and no suspect in Kathleens case. oh my favorite is we don’t know what stacy told the pastor or the context it in. that is funny stacy’s own words to the pastor if true peg her and drew as criminals one for murder and the other for covering it up. it’s actually sad to watch and read all the excuses that are made for stacy covering up kathleen. I’m sure if one of drews lover was covering up for stacy’s murder that girl would be scum of the earth and hung by her toes. such hypocrites and they can’t even see it. 2184. theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am Said: Edit Comment freedom ur so right. especially if they thought that someone or some other girl was covering the possible murder or disappearance of stacy. wait a minute-they have. they were cutting that woman that has been seen with drew & even bringing up the possibility of her covering for drew. almost the exact same circumstances if she is covering for drew, then stacy did the exact same. why the difference in either? 2185. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:38 am Said: Edit Comment there is no difference covering for murder is just that covering for murder. IMO stacy was in for the $$$ instead of justice concerning kathleen’s death. why the need to adopt those children soo fast? 1MIL life insurance, that would be motivation. Also drew put stacy’s name on the deed of the house and he also let her adopt his and kathleens boys. Does that sound like controling? If drew had not put stacy’s name on the deed he could sell the house right now. And why would a control freak let his wife have the power to take all 4 of his children away from him by letting her adopt them? nah I don’t buy it they were partners in crime until the fun wore off. 2186. freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm Said: Edit Comment sami it makes no sense that I was even asked that. But then again I can’t count the number of times that anyone that doesn’t bash drew has been called drew, brodsky or drew’s wife #5. it appears to be the easy way out to having to look at the whole picture. Drew being guilty is easy very easy, but pull the covers down and you would be surprised what is under those covers. atleast that is what I’m finding. I just can’t get past covering up for your husband murdering his ex-wife and then looking those boys in the eye everyday and claiming to be a good mom. It would not surprise me at this point if what stacy told the pastor was not true and that her and her family were actually the ones that harmed kathleen. That’s how tangled and full of lies this case appears to me. Lies not only from drew but from all the key players. now where is that daddy cales??? 2188. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 12:55 pm Said: Edit Comment freedom08, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:11 am Said: OMG drew’s soo slick he confesses on TV interviews when you play the audio backwards. send that to LE that is a confession. wah wah wah killed wah wah wah theoriginalsami, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:15 am Said: bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 11:03 am Said: [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B30Uk4Prn8&w=680&h=413] now how is this for reaching? bb that is pathetic __________________________________ thats just another example of fsp trying to prove dp quilty. you can interpret that anyway you wanted to. next they are going to be having seances and witch doctors with vodoo dolls. one other question, why hasnt LE said one word about stacy’s confession to pastor shori? at the least, its obstruction of justice at the worse, it’s accessory to murder, aiding and abetting,etc. are they keeping mum till she returns? lets see if dp gets arrested she makes a miraculous retrun. oh my god, can you imagine how many of the gestapo would want her for the new pope? 2191. Comments containing case discussion or theories (no matter what they are) were not deleted. 2192. gatehousechicago, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:11 pm Said: Edit Comment Also, just out of curiousity, is the number of comments on this page causing page loading problems for anybody? If it is, we can create another thread and have everyone move discussion over there. It’s up to you all. 2193. rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm Said: Edit Comment Yes, it is slow loading, I’ve noticed. 2194. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm Said: Edit Comment its slow refreshing the page, but thats not the content, its the server more than anything. 2195. facsmiley, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:36 pm Said: Edit Comment Yes, I think the number of comments on the thread is causing the page to load slowly. Maybe we could lock this one and continue on the 4/28 thread, or even start a new one? 2196. basherette, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:43 pm Said: Edit Comment Where did you get the idea that Stacy was a stay at home mom? She was going to nursing school, and working a job outside the home for quite a while before she went missing/was murdered. Doesn’t sound like a stay at home mom to me… 2197. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm Said: Edit Comment yeah, she was going to nursing school, one credit hour at a time 2198. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm Said: Edit Comment Stacy Peterson is a student at Joliet Junior College, where she is majoring in pre-nursing, said Jeff Julian, a campus spokesman. She has been a student on and off since 2001 and was enrolled in one class this semester, Julian said.
  7. i think any good reporter hearing complaints could go on at fsp as just another poster, ask some hard questions on searches, money or even about stacy covering up a murder & see for themselves just how quickly they r deleted & banned.

  8. and yes it is part of case discussion. why all the secrecy? why is the total truth not allowed to be discussed or debated? that is suspicious in a missing person case.

    i can see if someone came out swearing but ive seen the swearing, the threats, the banning, the secrecy & more & is allowed as long as the threats, questions & harrassment r sent drews way or anyone that is positive towards him.

  9. bash were/when did stacy work outside the home?
    I’ve never seen anything but she was taking one class at college.

  10. probably not worth the effort, sami. i think the more i find out about st. stacy, the more i feel she was way more involved with dp and his antics

  11. youre right freedom, didnt know pre-nursing was a 7yr program at the junior college in joliet. must be some tough classes

  12. lol it’s pretty common for mothers to take one class a semister so I understand that.
    I just haven’t seen anything that states stacy worked outside the home. maybe part time avon, but for the most part she was taken care of very well IMO.
    her nails and even toe nails in all her pics were always manicured and looking good as she was.
    wierd though it seems like the more plastic surgery she got the more she started looking like kathleen.
    bbl

  13. yeah the pinata at the fundraiser now that was class. hek they should have a whole thing of carnival games. pin the tail on dp, throw darts at him, dunk dp, shoot dp. then we can add sharon, win a day with sharon, kissing booth with sharon, guess sharons next show., & i think you are wrong about bb, yes he admitted to removing some of the lisa’s posters that her children were made to look at everyday.i absolutely would have did the same thing. then admin accused him of removing stacys which admin admitted was a mistake it wasnt stacys just lisas. but did he ever apologize to bb. no he did not. he isnt a man. where is everyone who is supposed to be helping cass they are busy bashing dp which she posted on the board she did not want any more bashing, cuz she wanted to be able to show the children someday.

  14. Well, as much as some find others ideas and actions distasteful, so do I find Peterson’s and Brodsky’s actions to be. Brodsky doesn’t know any more of these people than the man on the moon, yet he’s publicly degraded many of them. I do not find a reasonable explanation for that.

  15. again, do not confuse me with bbismytown from the FSP site. we are not the same person and i would hate for him to take heat for what i post. anyone doesnt understand that please speak up.

  16. i sure would like to be in the court house & hear what mike has to say. bet he is singing like a bird. & i bet its a bird dp doesnt want to hear.

  17. This is yet another example of the class at the FSP site.
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    Julie In CA
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    It’s Not PMS…It’s YOU!!!

    Re: Coffee talk
    « Reply #20276 on: Today at 12:56:36 AM »

    OH…..please…for the love of TODD….post these at Kimmers and Lavonda’s….thank you very much!! ILY!!! I forgot….they watch no matter what….TAKE THAT!!! LOL

    Sher….the new saying is “torch my poon”…..ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Julie In CA
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    It’s Not PMS…It’s YOU!!!

    Re: Coffee talk
    « Reply #20278 on: Today at 12:58:50 AM »

    OMG!!! Hang on….THEY ALL FELL FOR THE REJECTION NUMBER!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!! HOW HILARIOUS IS THAT? They posted the number with xxxxx’s and an explanation…..ROTFLMFAO!!! Someone needs some serious help…and even Caturday won’t save them!! LOL

    Logged

  18. kimmer, that post confuses me big time, i cant follow it.
    i dont get why the grand jury is dragging their feet in all of this. they meet again thursday, six months of witnesses and not farther along than day one. except for fsp ringing that cash cow.

  19. This is NOT FSP bashing. It is going to show the antics that are occuring on a missing person’s website. I am disgusted by the antics there and that is why I do not post there. The bashing everywhere needs to stop. And it needs to start with supporting the victim instead of constantly bashing the suspect.

  20. I don’t thing the GJ is dragging their feet. They know that they get one shot to put someone away if there has been a crime committed. I would hope that they are looking at every aspect and bring any criminal(s) to justice. No matter how long it takes.

  21. kimmer, that stopped beind a find stacy help site long time ago, now its just one big clique/ pat each other on the back. it detracts from real fact finding. they act like a bunch of high school bullies there.

  22. i find it really odd that cass’s lawyer even lets her read on fsp let alone post. why hasnt anyone kicked old tony out? & does anyone have a clue as to where these children will go. it was rumored early on fsp that steve p would get them. now they say noway will they go to a peterson.

  23. I don’t know, but until that day comes, I would think that Stacy’s friends would do EVERYTHING in their power to look as unbiased as possible to shield these children from anymore hurt.

  24. what a motley crew to choose from, cales or petersons, those kids are screwed no matter what.
    too bad, they are such sweet kids .
    feisty, why wouldnt cass’s lawyer let her read anything and everything? where are you getting that from? she thinks she is some kind of general in this so called army. let her keep burning rubber on pheasant chase, at least she stays out of trouble doing that.

  25. i wasnt getting it from anywhere that site is just so screwed up i would think a lawyer would say keep far away from it

  26. The Grand Jury meets one day a week. Sorry that it ain’t concluding fast enough for you.

    I’m wondering what the judge will determine in today’s hearing regarding whether or not DiP’s two teenage sons will testify before the GJ.

    DiP hired a lawyer for the boys who promptly filed a motion with the court asking that the GJ subpoena for them be quashed.

    Hopefully, the judge will rule that noth boys WILL testify at the GJ.

  27. believe me i know, but what does she even need a lawyer for? have they been called to the grand jury? cass, bosco, daddy cales? i havent heard if they have or not.

  28. i hope they do testify, BASH, maybe they can shed some light on what a great mom stacy was. just seems to me that meeting every thursday for six months is alot of time wasted if they arent getting anywhere, but then i dont have your inside knowledge, BASH. i can only go by whats in the news, you have the FSP that can spoon-feed you info. but i am sure its winding down, at least i hope so, will county is sucking me dry with all this wasted tax money.

  29. Are we talking about FSP again? Extreme boredom. I’ll check back later and see if anyone is talking about the case.

  30. Without immunity they could declare the 5th and not have to testify. With immunity they have to testify.

  31. i just hope that they can get out of this mess without needing a shrink the rest of their lives. it just seems the case is going cold like brodsky said. were are all the find stacy signs that was supposed to be placed to keep her in the public eye? all that junk being sold and as someone that lives in bolingbrook, i have only seen one yard sign and thats in sharons yard. why cant this money being raised go towards a professional that can track her down, dead or alive? six months people. no arrest, no body, case closed

  32. Bash, that might have been censored on FSP but the States Attorney granted them Immunity with their last request to appear before the GJ. There are news articles on it.

  33. Yes we have Yard signs available for $10.00 that say Find Stacy etc…..
    We could use some help in selling them to the immediate area of Bolingbrook
    and most importantly by Stacy’s home neighborhood
    If any one has the time … see me at the search sites 9am – 9:30 am and register to sell them
    for us. We need to know who will do this and assign local streets around the Neighborhoods
    SELL 10 SIGNS – GET A WHITE TEESHIRT FOR YOUR SELF AS WELL .
    THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT ……..
    SHARON

  34. like the people in her neighborhood dont know shes missing or what she looks like. id put them in truck stops . along interstates, rest areas, campgrounds. anyone have a theory on why they only want them in bolingbrook & specificaly in stacys neighborhood?

  35. kind of like the store, buy one get one free?. feisty, you know why. its to stick it to dp and in the crossfire are the kids, so why dont they just stop it?

  36. ok I have no idea why I cant post a link but Bash if you add an h infront of this and copy and paste it in the address bar it will work

    ttp://tinyurl.com/5ovqh9

  37. truth, do you highlight the WHOLE thing the cntrl c and then cnrtl v to paste in here. hope that helps

  38. Bash – I think there was supposed to be a hearing today to discuss whether or not they’ll have to appear before the GJ.

  39. Judge Richard Schoenstedt granted a request by both the state’s attorney’s office and attorneys for Peterson’s 13- and 15-year-old sons seeking a hearing April 29.

  40. facsmiley, on April 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm Said:
    Are we talking about FSP again? Extreme boredom. I’ll check back later and see if anyone is talking about the case.

    rescueapet, on April 29th, 2008 at 5:57 pm Said:
    Yup, me too.

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    nough said

  41. Danya – if you’re here – did you go to Court today regarding the hearing of whether DP’s sons will have to appear before the GJ?

  42. Mr. Bolingbrook. You get out of my face. Quit trying to intimidate me. I’m not bothering you. I saw Bash here and I was talking to Bash. Quit trying to chase everyone away.

  43. Maybe they were granted immunity because, initially, they were interviewed by some kind of child advocate, or something like that, and maybe they repeated things they heard or saw. A lawyer representing them now would probably want to make sure that those kids aren’t legally responsible for withholding information previously.

  44. feistygurl, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:11 pm Said:
    like the people in her neighborhood dont know shes missing or what she looks like. id put them in truck stops . along interstates, rest areas, campgrounds. anyone have a theory on why they only want them in bolingbrook & specificaly in stacys neighborhood?
    ********************************’

    In reality, what are signs of Stacy’s picture really going to do anyhow? It’s not like someone is going to say “Hey, I know her…she’s hiding out and lives down the street from me now”. Albeit, this also brings up a good point….if Drew believes Stacy ran off (which I do not believe for a second) then why isn’t HE making signs and getting them out all over the place????

    The FSP signs should actually be all over the place, and outside of Bolingbrook, and instead of stating “where is Stacy”….they should state “Do you have information on what happened to Stacy Peterson?”

  45. Yes, they were talked to by some child something-or-other. I know that’s been reported. They’re young teens, and, in my opinion, their innocent participants in a bad situation. Certainly, not one they would want to be in.

    They lost their mother, and if they’re father is guilty, or taken away and charged with a crime, their whole world is turned upside down. Their home life as they know it would be over for now. Living elsewhere, with other people, away from their friends. That’s not a great option for them either.

  46. i agree with ya lavanda on what the signs should say. & sharon saying they were in the back of her house so the meter readers would see them ha

  47. bolingbrook60440, on April 29th, 2008 at 6:00 pm six months people. no arrest, no body, case closed

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    I’m sure if this was your family member you would not be saying “case closed” after only six months….and ESPECIALLY if no body. Not knowing what happened to a loved one would be heartwrenching & devastating. You obviously must not have children. Anyone who has children knows the ends of the earth they would go to find their child, especially one deemed “presumably dead” by LE, to bring them home for a proper burial. I’m sure the feelings are pretty close to the same if it were ones brother or sister. Do you not have any compassion?

  48. In defense of Sharon, I can’t speak for her because I cannot imagine the pain she is going through. I do know she was very close to Stacy and loved her. She told me that every morning she would hear the pitter patter of little feet when Stacy would come in around 7:30 am when she was working in her office….every morning. She said her heart aches now that those sounds “have stopped” and Stacy no longer is there. That would be very devastating. Sharon did all she could as a neighbor and I for one would be honored to have her as my neighbor and friend. If she is going a bit “overboard” with the signs…it is probably her “legal way” of having some spite against Drew….and while it may come across as “spiting Drew”…it’s her way of dealing with the pain that he has caused many many people….lets start with the fact that he banned the children from her the very first week Stacy went missing. He crossed her off his list the moment he knew………..she knew. So yes, Sharon has a lot of pain and hurt…….. and these signs are her way of getting some pain and hurt right back to the root of the cause………Drew.

    I believe she feels the children deserve to know their mother is missing…and people are looking for her….as opposed to letting these children think their mother just up and left them….or went on some “permanent vacation.” Who is Drew fooling??? To say those children are not hurt is a terrible disservice to his own children. Shame on him. (And the older ones are bored. How pathetic. How callous. All boys love and adore their mom’s. I’m sure his teen son’s are NOT bored….they’re hurting and haunted by the memory of a mother they hold dear and we all know that Drew is NOT upholding a kind memory of Kathleen to them. It makes me so very very sad for them.)

  49. legal way of getting drew i understand that totally. but she needs to think of ways to get dp without hurting the children. no i dont think its right he banned the kids from there. but 2 wrongs dont make a right. ok dp cant say to them i killed your mother & step mom. i just know if i went missing i wouldnt want my children to feel that way. & maybe this is where cass can tell them in years to come hey your mom really loved you & she just didnt leave you. & if i was missing & was presumed dead i wouldnt want it in my kids face 24/7. i would want them to have fun filled happy days not constantly sad about missing me. who would want that for a child no matter the age. if someone did that to my kids i would haunt them forever

  50. I find it very telling that someone went door to door in the neighborhood trying to sell the signs, and NOBODY would buy one.

    It’s not because they are scared of Drew, its because they are sick to death of all this nonsense Sharon is creating.

    I agree with the poster that stated they should plant a tree, build a garden in a community park etc. There are MANY ways to honor people without causing chaos.

    What she is doing to those children is sick, in my opinion. She is NOT the caretaker of them, and its really none of her business what Drew has said, or not said to them regarding Stacy.

    I can clearly remember in the beginning of this and the first snow fall. All I could think about was the kids wanting to get outside and play in it. But guess what, they couldn’t, the media truck were camped out there almost 24/7. Was that needed, NO, they could have reported from the Bolingbrook Police Department, the Bolingbrook Village Hall etc.

    As far as the suggestion of a block party, that is insane. People in that area, or that block have clearly showed, they are done with this. DONE!!!!! They want their lives back, they want their own children to be able to go outside and play and no worry about Sharon and her antics, or the news trucks showing up.

    She is doing that street a great disservice if you ask me.

  51. lavonda, just when did sharon tell you this charming story? stacy’s best friend? where was this best friend when she heard the gunshot in the house? sure wasnt getting on the phone to the police. hind sight is 20 20 they say. looks like no one tried helping stacy when she was alive. now they crawl out of the woodwork to claim she was everyones best friend.

  52. I just don’t understand. You can honor your friend by not bashing the father of HER children. You can honor your friend and not cause undue harm and stress to the children. You can honor a missing woman in IL and not make it about you in CA. You can honor this missing woman and still look at everything that led to her going missing. It’s not about anything at this point other than this woman is missing and what caused her to end up that way. Why don’t some people get that?

  53. cfs read it again
    lavondas words not mine
    In defense of Sharon, I can’t speak for her because I cannot imagine the pain she is going through. I do know she was very close to Stacy and loved her. She told me that every morning she would hear the pitter patter of little feet when Stacy would come in around 7:30 am when she was working in her office….

  54. kind of like you did kimmer? i am using this as i see fit. why not just hang out at your own blog with your four or five people and stop trying to pick fights here. youre the kind of person that brings a bad name to blogs like this. you, lavonda, a few others, want to bully and only hear yourself yap yap yap. get on your soap box on your own forum, not here, or just go back to FSP, oh yeah, you caused so much trouble there, youre not welcome either

  55. Anyone care to go to my home page and take look how many people are there? But since that is your best “dig”…okay.

    How does a person that wants to look at every angle of a case and how or why the media is or isn’t covering items give anything a bad name UNLESS someone doesn’t want the truth to really come out? I’ve bullied nobody here, if anything I feel like my board has encouraged a more robust discussion, albeit unpopular.

  56. Whatever Bolingbrook. It doesn’t matter anyway, because you will find something else to pick apart that another poster writes because that’s just the type of person you are. Kimmer nailed it on the head!

  57. you dont have to cause trouble on fsp to get banned. i can tell ya that. i post on a few forums read on some. kimmers is the one that suits me best. shes straight up. i come here to try & give some people from fsp some information & hopefully gain some knowledge myself on the case. i like looking from all different views. hell my theories have changed a 100 times on this case. dead, alive missing, not missing, guilty not guilty guilty of one but not the other , blue tote, blue barrell who the hell really knows

  58. FYI: All argumentative “pitter patter” comments have been deleted.

    Also, no, we were not able to check on the court hearing today. We will let everyone know as soon as we hear something.

    We’ve also noticed that many comments that include links are being sent to spam. Not sure why that is, but we’re working to fix it. For now, we’ll manually approve them.

  59. Does anyone know, did Sharon, Roy, Admin etc. go to Lisa’s Walk…not just posters, but those in authority on FSP?

  60. So far, the only comments that are being sent to spam that shouldn’t be are ones that include links. When one pops up in the spam box that is clearly a post from one of you, we are marking it as “not spam” which automatically approves it for posting.

    So if any of you have noticed a comment that you posted hours ago just showing up now, it is because we have just taken it out of the spam box.

    Sorry if that was confusing, does that make sense?

  61. And since we will be writing a story soon that includes references to Lisa’s Walk, we can confirm that there were about 20 people involved with Stacy’s search at the walk. They included friends, family and volunteer searchers.

  62. A member from my board confirmed that Sharon, her husband, Kerry Fitzsimmons (sp), as well as some other SP supporters were there. There were also members of the Olsen and Spiero (sp) families there as well.

  63. Wow. Just wow. I have been reading these posts here for a few days…I cannot keep it straight…and it NEVER stays on TOPIC.

    Why is that? Why are some of these people allowed to come here and post? Over and over? They are clearly violating your own rules!

    Seriously folks….wtf is goin’ on here? You mods need to really check on WHO is posting here!

    IMHO….there are only 2 people who feel the need to constanty bash SP, her friends and familty, and the FSP website, and their members. You all remember that? WHO are those 2 people? Those 2 ppl are OBSESSED with making SP and her family look bad.

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck….it’s a duck!

    I’m just sayin’……

  64. talking about all aspects of the case is bashing only sp and her family?
    yet it’s ok for you justwonderin to bash those discussing the case and not even offer any input into the case. your post is solely to BASH others, you are what you eat. quack quack
    sp in her own words to the pastor was an accessory to the murder of kathleen and denied justice for kathleen for 4 years.
    if you can’t deal with the reality of these facts along with many other facts, without claiming that it is bashing sp then I hate it for ya!!
    quack quack

  65. At the Lisa Walk, I saw 3-4 committee members there. Several fsp members as well. Most wore Stacy Tshirts at the LISA walk, and Sharon tried to get on camera as many times as possible during the walk.
    Fact.

    It was the walk for LISA. Reporters always try to get the juicier story for viewers but I did see some of them covering the subject story: LISA.

  66. This will be controversial, but here goes…

    The older boys. Their Mom died. They believed she drowned in an accident. Now they know she was murdered. If it’s my Mom, I am going to be VERY frikken curious, not bored.

    Now… what if they heard the fighting between SP and DP and SP said something like “Oh you will give me the divorce or you will go to jail for killing KS”

    Because, as we now know, Stacy KNEW about DP killing KS and covered it up (accessory) for over 3 years.

    btw, this is not Stacybash, this is the truth and WE NEED TO GET TO THE TRUTH, NOT THE BS.

  67. Good subject, what did those boys hear that day?
    why would drew wait until one week before the divorce settlement to kill kathleen? all just assume it’s drew that killed kathleen yet he’s not even an official suspect in her homicide. soooo

    could they have heard that someone in stacy’s family possibly yelton killed kathleen?
    why all the bruises on Kathleen if drew can kill in an instant without leaving a mark?
    why did yelton go back to jail?
    where were yelton/cass/daddy cales on the weekend of kathleen’s death?
    motive you ask? Stacy’s husband was going to lose losts of $$$$ in the settlement that would take away from him providing for Stacy and anthony.
    Stacy bad mouth kathleen terrible to the cales and even her sister Tina familys. Told them she was always drunk and that’s probably why she fell in the bathtub.
    dont’ believe me see for yourself, tina’s brother in law posting as unclezeek on CTV.

    Originally posted by unclezeek
    [*]Are ther reports on how much you drink?

    Stacy told me she was “always F@#%ed up” .
    So take that for what it’s worth. I never gave it any thought untill the last six months.

    Originally posted by unclezeek
    [*]Are ther reports on how much you drink?

    Originally posted by unclezeek
    [*]In 2003 Stacy made reference to Kathleen being under the influence (of what I can only speculate) and calling, harrassing her and Drew. That her kids had made mention of her drinking, and that Stacy herself had a face to face confrontation with her while Kathleen was intoxicated.

    This may be BS, it may be true. But all I have read points to that being a possability. I guess it all depends on how much of what Stacy said you want to believe.

    I did not know Kathleen, but
    I also haven’t heard a whole lot about her backround since this all came up either

  68. lavonda made this statement:

    it’s her way of dealing with the pain that he has caused many many people….lets start with the fact that he banned the children from her the very first week Stacy went missing. He crossed her off his list the moment he knew………..she knew. So yes, Sharon has a lot of pain and hurt…….. and these signs are her way of getting some pain and hurt right back to the root of the cause………Drew.

    lavonda i had a hard time swallowing your statement mostly the one above. banned the children from seeing sharon?
    who is sharon to have any say at all about the children? absolutely zip & this martyr synrom that she puts out like this only feeds the frenzy more. grandparents have enough of a hard time seeing grandchildren during a bad time. lets not include the poor neighbor bit in a custody battle or rights of a neighbor or friend to see the children. like it or not drew has every right to “ban” sharon from seeing her.

  69. You have to understand why people stand behind Sharon (as did I until a couple months ago) and that is because they think she is doing her best to help find Stacy.

    Unfortunately her ballbusting Drew makes that all go south. That and her love of her newfound fame. Don’t believe me? Take a closer look.

  70. why did he ban the kids? he and the kids were hanging at sharon’s when the police searched the house.
    could it possibly have anything to do with how sharon started acting?
    and I agree sami Sharon has no right at all to those children and she needs to deal with that FACT. She’s a NEIGHBOR and she needs to start acting like one.
    How sad that not only drew is such a smuck but the rest of this crew isn’t much better, IMO
    Maybe Roy needs to provide sharon with some grand children to focus on instead of others kids.

  71. Interesting about KS painted as a drunk, freedom08.

    I guess I missed that part too, but it makes sense for SP/DP/ all of them to say that. Who knows if it’s true, surely no one would tell it now.

  72. I doubt it’s true just more ways that Stacy and Drew taunted Kathleen. Also shows the true character IMO of Stacy along with Drew.
    This part really shows me the real stacy, no wonder the need to shut down all talk concerning her that doesn’t paint her as a saint.
    how many face to face confrontations did Stacy have with Kathleen? The nerve of stacy sneaking into Kathleens basement to screw kathleens husband.

    Stacy herself had a face to face confrontation with her while Kathleen was intoxicated.

  73. Sharon and Roy et al would be extremely admirable, had they not gotten into the ballbusting and antagaonizing the kids when they aimed their sights on Drew.

    Now they are nothing more than nosy neighbors with questionable funds. They will not disclose the truth about the donations. FSP lied about the tax status.
    They did not use the aerial search planes they touted the 500/day gas costs to try and garner more donations, but now we will have full foliage by this weekend. Too late for planes.

    Side-scan sonar is the only hope, and on the off chance she’s in water. A 29-yr cop knows they will use that.

  74. After seeing more pics of Stacy with her children, I 100% believe she was a good mother, a good person if you will.

    Not a saint, by any means. But— wrong in not reporting the true circumstances of KS’ death. That makes her a criminal, not a bad person. Yeah, you can be a good person and still be a criminal.

    On the other hand, she was married to a sarge in a corrupt force. Cops cover cops. Fact. Why would she feel safe reporting it? I don’t know what I’d have done in her shoes.

  75. Why so many bashing Sharon? Sharon was attached to those children. I get the feeling that Stacy probably thought of Sharon as a “mother” figure & I’m sure Sharon was involved in the childrens lives from day one.

    Many people have friends that are involved in their lives who ARE LIKE FAMILY & I think that is how close Stacy & Sharon were.

    Maybe being involved is how Sharon deals with her grief over this situation.

    Man, if you all bash good people & defend others who have acted out inappropriately, I feel sorry for anyone in your lives who may try to help you thru a stressful situation.

  76. luvpups, if Sharon is so heartbroken over the kids she needs to show it in other ways. If so, DP wouldn’t have kicked her out of their lives.

    I am no defender of DP, but I see that what Sharon has done is W-R-O-N-G. Ultimately she hurts the kids.

  77. I like the discussion here. Gives everyone a chance to speak. That is a GREAT thing, to not fear being banned when discussing the actual case, not the sainthood.

    Unfortunately there are too many threads to follow, and of course there is always the: go back to your own site. lol.

    That works so well. Go back to FSP, Go back to kimmers, Go back to InSession, Go back to Websleuths, on and on we go.

    If I get it my way, we all go to kimmers!

  78. DP kicked her out of their lives because he didn’t like what she told LE.

    DP has alienated a lot of people since this happened.
    His lawyer continues to go on talk shows saying the press is not reporting the POSITIVE things people are saying.

    Show me one family member who is in the press singing his praises?

    Even Scott Peterson’s entire family was on TV endlessly supporting him.

    If you’re talking about the signs about Stacy missing that Sharon put in her windows, well it’s a known fact & the older kids know that she is missing & the younger ones probably cannot read, but just see a picture of their mom.

    I don’t see anything derogatory in the signs, it’s not like she is bashing Stacy.

    I just think bashing the victim or people trying to help find her, is counterproductive!

    Would you also bash the countless volunteers who have walked fields in cold and wet weather?

  79. sharon is “bashing” the kids father right under their noses. who gives her the right to not give the kids a quiet place to be? who gives her the right to make those kids as uncomfortable as she can all in the name of bashing drew? if she loves those kids as u profess, than why doesnt she just let them live in peace?

  80. Do you know for a fact that those signs bother the kids?

    Living in peace would mean their mom would still be there IMO!

  81. Do you know for a fact the signs don’t bother the kids?

    what’s the purpose of the signs in her yard only for DP to see?

    why aren’t the signs plastered on the interstate, at truck stops, all over town?

    I mean after all the purpose of the signs are to help find stacy or are the purpose of the signs to taunt drew into cracking and telling where stacy is?

    Those children are NONE of sharon’s business, that’s the bottom line she has no legal right to those children. like it or not that is reality and sharons actions are not in the best interest of the children and that is WRONG.

  82. So luvpups you think it’s in the best interest of the children to report on the internet they are home alone?
    Or would it be in the best interest of the children if you are truly concerned to call BBPD to do a health/welfare check??

  83. I am not understanding all of the negative comments regarding Sharon. She was obviously very close to Stacy and the children, especially the younger two, Lacy and Anthony. It is obvious that Sharon knows alot about Stacy and her family and that is a threat to Drew and his story.

    On the very day of Stacy’s disappearance, 10/28/07, Sharon invited Lacy and Anthony over to her house for candy/suckers. It was just another day like many others I’m sure that she enjoyed being with the children and Stacy.

    Now Stacy is gone. Drew has taken every opportunity to discredit Sharon. Why? Because I think she knows LOTS of information regarding Stacy and Drew’s relationship.

    Sharon could have run in her house and closed the curtains after Drew’s attempts to trash her character. But she hasn’t. She is focussed and dedicated to finding Stacy Peterson. I would welcome a neighbor like her anytime.

  84. 58apache but i thought that drew help his family captive from the outside world. how culd sharon know so much if drew kept such a tight reign on everyone?

    kids love their parents so to harrass, taunt, shove those pictures in their face everyday doesnt serve any purpose except sharon getting “even”. i thought she was only in this to help find stacy. thats not finding her.

  85. Sorry, I was on here yesterday and everything was so slow … I saw that some others were having the same problem, so I thought that I’d let people know about the other thread … so now it’s Thread 1 and Thread 2 on my favs.

  86. I can only imagine how many days Anthony and Lacy ask Drew when their mommy is coming home from her vacation.

    I wonder how many times Lacy and Anthony ask why they can’t go over to Sharon’s house.

    I wonder how many times Lacy and Anthony want to see Aunt Cassandra and can’t.

    The only person on this earth, in my opinion, that is creating havoc for these children is their father, Drew Peterson, the only suspect in the disappearance and presumed homicide of Stacy Peterson.

  87. if i were stacy & i was dead i wouldnt like her for tormneting my children daily. kids need to get away from the grief. sure they miss their mom & sure their father is probably the reason why makes no difference. think about it really if something happened to you would you want your kids sad everytime they walked outside of their own house, im not saying sharon is a bad person i just think her wanting to get to dp is hurting the kids. overboard.

  88. I’d say the havoc for these children started with Kathleens death.

    I wonder how many times Kathleen’s boys cried for their mother?
    I wonder how Kathleen’s boy’s feel now that they know the woman that adopted them covered for their mothers murder?
    this all started with Kathleen’s family being ripped apart by Drew and Stacy. And that wasn’t enough to rip her family apart he life had to be ended.
    what a tragidy but let’s only look at what doesn’t look messy for stacy. let’s ignore a nosey neighbor annoucing on the internet the children she claims to care so much for are alone. Let’s ignore the taunting of drew by sharon and just focus on drew’s taunting of sharon. which is what again?

  89. for crying out loud sharon is not a victim in this. the kids should be left in peace. as long as she continues to satisfy her own demons & not serve in the best interest of the kids then shes nothing but a nosey neighbor trying to get her nose into the media & into too many peoples lives that want nothing to do with her. this whole thing has become a case about cassandra, sharon, roy & that rave loving tony. nothing about it is about stacy anymore. absolutely nothing. they have made it about them by their actions. thats just sick. nothing credible about that. trying to brign the whole truth out would help find stacy. creating a lynch mob does nothing but make people turn away & that does zero for the search for stacy.

  90. Well we all know that Drew has even admitted how controlling he is with his family. But he went to work and I’m sure there were many hours that Sharon and Stacy visited, along with the kids.

    Sharon even talked about Stacy coming over to Sharon’s house one day and cooked dinner. That was the type person Stacy was. When someone was sick, she made sure they were taken care of and fed, etc.

    When Tom Morphey was down on his luck, Stacy went out and got him a gift card to help him out. Nothing that I have read or heard indicated that Stacy was selfish or self-serving — unless you follow the logic of Drew Peterson or Joel Brodsky as they make her out to be some shady lady.

  91. 58apache

    i realize this has been asked but never answered-just completely ignored but ill try again.

    why would sharon announce online for any wierdo to see, that the kids were alone? is that love or what? more like trying to bring more drama & danger in the case. very very dangerous to do that.

    please answer that. do u really believe that wasnt a dangerous thing to do?

    thats one of many reasons why i wouldnt believe one word from her. when she puts kids in a dangerous situation all in the name of bashing drews then she has no credibility.

  92. IMO Drew does not want his kids to visit with Sharon (or Stacy’s family) because there is a difference of opinion on his innocence.

    And try as they might, would they be able to keep their feelings in check if one of the children brought up the topic of the signs, their mom, etc.?

    If I were in that situation, I doubt I would be able to. (Okay, honestly, I know I would not be able to.)

    A solution would be supervised visits with a neutral third party for Cass and other family with limitations on the conversations.

    However, as someone pointed out, Drew is the children’s father. He has the right to determine who his children can and cannot visit … right or wrong.

  93. when kathleen was without life in her bathtub,
    Stacy provided an alibi for drew according to her own words to the pastor. Stacy went on to spend spend spend along with drew kathleens $$$$. Stacy went on to adopt the children of the woman that she claims her husband killed.
    that is what stacy is really like and this doesn’t come from drew or JB. This comes from the reality of stacy actions for the last 4 years.
    yeah cooking a nice dinner makes up for covering for murder.

    Where is morphey did him and stacy run off?

  94. 58apache, I totally agree with you. Others here seem to think Sharon is enjoying this ill brought fame.

    I’m sure Sharon would trade all this publicity for having Stacy back as her neighbor!!!!

    We can only hope there are more caring people in the world, than mean spirited ones!

  95. drew has let cass see the kids when she calls and asks.
    aunt candy also called drew around christmas asking to see the kids and he agree they had a sit down dinner.

    The way sharon is acting there is no way in hell I would not let her anywhere near my kids.

  96. i read the article on sp by carol penning i think alot of people here see she was a very loving person & mother. but noone is a saint. nobodys family is perfect. i think everyone here agrees sp & ks should be alive. i dont think she was shady i think she wanted a better life than she had. i think she was scared & provided the alibi for dp. the courts are going to look at all sides good & bad. sharons just needs to stop trying to get dp to crack (cuz its hurting the kids) & let le do their job. if there were no children involved id say do whatever you want sharon get him anyway you can.

  97. All of this.
    SP is still gone.
    Sharon makes it about herself every time.

    God help us if this is a great neighbor.

  98. one can only hope that there are more people in this world that will look at all sides of any crime looking for the truth.

    How many people has innocent people has Ilinois convicted of a crime they did not commit and how many innocents has the state of IL had on death row and even executed?
    I see why now they have such a high rate of innocents on death row. Lynch mob mentality.

    If drew is guilty of murder he should be put in prison and throw the keys away. I don’t give a pass for murder to anyone nor do I give a pass to anyone that knowingly covers up a murder.

  99. I think Sharon and her son, Roy, have had to make some tough decisions. They could either back down to Drew and his accusations or they can tolerate some public scrutiny in order to keep Stacy’s memory alive.

    The choice has been made. There will be a resolution and Sharon and Roy are determined to make that happen. The goal is to find Stacy and hold the person(s) responsible for her disappearance and presumed homicide held accountable.

  100. Freedom, according to Tom Morphey’s family, Tom is in protective custody. He hasn’t run off with anyone. As to where Stacy is, I do not know.

    I do think that Stacy tried to make up for what she did by providing a loving home for Drew’s boys. I’m not saying that she only adopted them for that reason. I do think she loved the boys/

    Before anyone freaks out: I DO NOT think that providing a loving home in any way makes up for covering up a murder. Maybe she was thinking that losing both parents would have traumatized the children. Nobody knows what was going through her mind. Unless she told the pastor more of what went on during that time.

    But I think the plastic surgery was a way to change the person she’d been (i.e., a person who had covered up a murder).

    She could change the outside. Maybe when her sister died, she realized what a loss death is to the ones left behind, and she got a small idea of what her sons had gone through. That would certainly have added to her depression (which according to Drew she suffered from). Since she was on medication, I’m sure ISP will confirm that with the doctor who prescribed the anit-depressants.

  101. how come answering my question is so hard?

    maybe because it would shine a negative light on sharon? sorry she did it on her own.

    WHY WOULD SHARON ANNOUNCE ONLINE FOR ANY CRAZY TO SEE THAT THE CHILDREN WERE ALONE?

    is that such a hard question?

  102. t.o.sami., I think nobody has answered your question because nobody can provide a justifiable answer.

    To announce that Drew is gone again and the children are home alone in order to show that Drew is not home with his kids 24/7 (which is obvious anyway since we have seen him several times on TV shows) does not justify the potential danger doing so put the children in.

    That’s why I think nobody has answered. IMO

  103. 58apache, on April 30th, 2008 at 9:26 am Said

    The choice has been made. There will be a resolution and Sharon and Roy are determined to make that happen. The goal is to find Stacy and hold the person(s) responsible for her disappearance and presumed homicide held accountable.

    and they think announcing the kids are alone for anyone to go abduct them is just the way to do thise?

  104. noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 9:39 am Said:
    t.o.sami., I think nobody has answered your question because nobody can provide a justifiable answer.

    To announce that Drew is gone again and the children are home alone in order to show that Drew is not home with his kids 24/7 (which is obvious anyway since we have seen him several times on TV shows) does not justify the potential danger doing so put the children in.

    That’s why I think nobody has answered. IMO

    ahh but doesnt a normal person that wants the best for the kids just call social services & not call upon thousand of strangers to take the law into their own hands?
    it is one of many reasons why IMO dont think sharon is all there. no normal adult does something like that.

  105. noway, the claim is that tom is in protective custody. I just don’t know if I believe it or Tom’s story.
    I look at it as if tom’s story was the real deal drew would be arrested by now. something isn’t right with his story, IMO.

    As far as Stacy, no doubt she loved her children most women do.
    I feel her covering for drew, if she really did, was more for her own benefit then worrying about how the boys felt. She didn’t care how the boys felt when she taunted kathleen.
    Kathleen states in her letter to the states attorney she had to put the boys in counseling because of DREW & STACY!!! Kathleen even went on to state the types of things STACY was doing to her and the boys.
    The plastic surgery IMO was done for the reasons most women do it, vain wanna look better. IMO something is wrong with any 20-23yo that has as much plastic surgery as stacy had.
    I have no doubt stacy loved her children most mothers do!

  106. Sami, I don’t think it was wise to announce that the kids were alone, real-time. When that topic has been discussed on FSP it was after Drew indicated in a TV interview that he occassionally went out. Well, occassionally was happening multiple times a week. I think the assumption was that the teenage boys were being put in charge of the two younger children while Drew went out drinking. Sharon made it known that Drew was not being truthful. I probably would make the facts known too, yet, I would not announce that the children were home alone, real-time. I would let it be known after the fact.

  107. maybe stacy is with an underground abuse network and sharon annoucing on the internet the kids are alone is a tip for the network to come and snatch the kids.

  108. 58apache

    i appreciate u being civil on this so in turn i am trying. when it comes to kids safety i have a hard time holding back.

    i wouldnt even let that be known after the fact because if u announce that to the world some wacko will watch the house just for another time the kids could be alone.

    call the dang authorities but dont leak that out to anyone else at anytime. let the authorities & courts take care of that.

  109. 58apache said: The goal is to find Stacy and hold the person(s) responsible for her disappearance and presumed homicide held accountable.
    __________________

    And here is where the conflict begins.

    Drew (and Joel) says Stacy ran off on her own with an unknown man; therefore, she (Stacy) is responsible for her disappearance. There is no homicide.

    ISP, Sharon, Roy, Cass (and many others) believe that Drew had something/everything to do with Stacy’s disappearnce and presumed homicide.

    With the little we know, there are reasons to believe that either scenario could be true.

    Since ISP has way more evidence in hand than I do, and they have him as their only suspect, my opinion is in that direction.

  110. Sharon needs to stop reacting to drew’s comments. she’s letting him win by doing that.
    think sharon think you can do a better job looking for stacy if you get your emotions in check and not let drew pull your strings.

  111. freedom08, on April 30th, 2008 at 9:48 am Said:
    maybe stacy is with an underground abuse network and sharon annoucing on the internet the kids are alone is a tip for the network to come and snatch the kids.
    __________

    Well, if that’s the case, they had their chance. Why didn’t they take it?

  112. I really don’t know the answer to this.

    If you make arrangements to leave via an underground abuse network, would they require evidence of abuse or do they just take you on your word?

    I mean would they look into hospital reports or police reports? I do suppose their are lots of women who don’t have either and are abused.

    I’m just trying to determine whether Stacy leaving via an underground organization is feasible.

    And if she had, would the organization not have contacted ISP and said, she’s not dead, she has just relocated?

    And now that the pastor has come forward and said that Stacy covered up a murder, if the organization had contacted ISP, and ISP wanted to file charges against Stacy, wouldn’t they have arrested her?

    Comments welcome. I’m just trying to explore this avenue.

  113. Once again, the topic is SPeterson’s plastic surgery, her reputation as a person, or should I say lack of it, Sharon’s reputation, or lack of it, and the status of minor children in a house.

    Has it ever occurred to the posters that are obsessed with repeating the children’s home situation that you are, in fact, doing the same thing here? “After the fact.”

    You refer repeatedly their being home alone because you read it on a forum set up by SPeterson supporters, and you constantly profess your disgust with that “fact.”

    Yet, you then bring it over here and beat it to death. What exactly is the difference?

    If I come here and read the comments of the same posters who constantly go back to this one topic, I see clearly you are doing the same thing. Reminding everyone that the children have been, may be, or are home alone.

    Oh, and if SPeterson’s plastic surgery is relevant to any of this, let me say something equally enlightening.

    Drew Peterson has NOT had plastic surgery.

    What does either statement have to do with her being missing and him being the prime suspect?

  114. Good thought, noway.

    Makes you wonder why any freak would tell it online in a PUBLIC forum when kids are home alone.

    Fing freaks.

  115. saying drew murdered kathleen and stacy is not bashing drew.

    saying stacy covered up for kathleens murder is bashing her??

    saying sharons actions are hurting the children is bashing her?

    get over it folks you can try and try to shut those down that want to discuss the whole truth about ALL in this tragedy but you don’t own the internet or us so deal with it.

  116. If SPeterson is “living” in an underground organization, then she is alive.

    If she is alive, then what’s to say her husband didn’t drag her out of that house against her will, or dragged her out in a box while still alive? Stashed her somewhere with one of his street friends, to stop her from disrupting his life with talk of divorce and threatening him with exposure to another crime?

    From what I believe has been reported, cadaver dogs confirmed a scent of death, for lack of a better way of putting it. So, I guess someone in that room was dead, or maybe dead in the back of one of the vehicles.

    Othewise, if that report is untrue, then she could very well be alive, but held captive somewhere. Works both ways

  117. noway as far as an underground network. They would never tell a woman no you aren’t being abused.
    They do not contact LE no matter what.
    They would help Stacy if she told them that she knew he killed the ex-wife and she was in fear of her life.
    Again they would not contact LE even if she was an accessory to murder. they do not operate that way.

  118. For those who thought t.o.sami was bashing Sharon, I don’t think she (he?) was. (I believe she but if you want to clarify, please do.)

    We were discussing why Drew does or does not let the children see Sharon, and t.o.sami believed it was Sharon’s behavior more than anything else. She used as an example Sharon’s comments that Drew had left the children home alone. She did not think that was the behavior was that of someone you would want around your children.

    I don’t think this conversation has been bashing Stacy, Sharon or FSP. But that is my opinion.

  119. yes she could be held captive somewhere by dp.

    yes she could be dead at the hands of dp.

    yes she could be dead at the hands of someone else.

    yes she could have run off with another man

    yes she could have went into the underground network

    the dog hits aren’t that reliable since a body was not found and if they were proof in the pudding then again drew would have been arrested.
    now they could have hit on the smell of death from kathleen since stacy and drew had kathleens bed and furniture.

    fiestygurl I’m like you all over the place until we get some hard facts and the anti’s of sharon and others just make me dig more for the facts without pay from JB!!

  120. I will say what I want.

    Drew probably did it.

    SP probably covered for it.

    He probably offed her for her knowledge and threats to come forward with said knowledge if he did not give her the divorce.

    Sharon is a detriment to the case, a nosy neighbor who has made this more about her camera facetime than about her bff.

    FSP is hiding the truth about why they screwed up doing the money legally and correctly.

    There ya go… now say I attack, have at it. It’s my opinion.

  121. 58 sounds just like a certain someone at fsp. cant say a negative thing about sp without being called a troll or brodsky blogger. cant even ask simple questions . i believe he did it most days somedays i think she is in hiding. i would never slam someone for what they believe cuz truth is we havent enough facts yet.

  122. noway you are correct but for some anything said about sharon/stacy and a few others that isn’t ILY is considered bashing and they try their best to bully folks around to silence them. This has been going on for months it’s nothing new.

  123. rescue I appreciate that and it’s no problem oversights happen all the time by all of us and you coming back and stating that gives me nothing but respect for you!!

  124. freedom08, on April 30th, 2008 at 10:06 am Said:
    noway as far as an underground network. They would never tell a woman no you aren’t being abused.
    They do not contact LE no matter what.
    They would help Stacy if she told them that she knew he killed the ex-wife and she was in fear of her life.
    Again they would not contact LE even if she was an accessory to murder. they do not operate that way.
    ________________

    My original message went into cyberspace so here is the abbreviated version:

    Thanks for the response. I wondered whether an organization would be violating a law by letting an investigation go on in spite of what they knew.

    If she did leave via underground, do they tell you to take your bikini? You can buy everything else when you get there, but they have no swim suite stores, so bring at least one bikini.

    Yes, I’m just going to have to believe that she did not leave on her own and did not leave via underground.

    At least for now.

  125. Okay – fsp “bullies and silences” people who say anything against them.

    Bloggers here discuss is every day, every other topic.

    What has either got to do with SPeterson’s disappearance, DPeterson’s guilt or innocence, and KSavios method of death?

    It’s obvious to me this a blog is nothing more than a forum for the dislike of fsp, Sharon B, Roy B, Julie in CA, and whoever else there is as a the flavor of the moment.

    Occasionally, including me, someone wanders in her to discuss the DP/SP/KS matters. That’s never going to happen.

    I give up.

  126. freedom – I think it stinks no matter who says it. No need to name call. Differing opinions is one thing, but disagreeing by calling someone a name, no matter which side, is not my idea of acting dignified.

    I am sure, on that, we can agree.

  127. I don’t have any experience with underground networks, so I appreciate the responses.

    Rescutapet, I have to say that all apsects of every person involved in this case have to do with the disappearance.

    To believe that Drew did it, you want to know his background and his behavior.

    To believe that Stacy left on her own (via underground or with another man) you want to know about her past. Because if either of these is true, the first question in my mind is WHY did she do it.

    And to lump me (I can only speak for myself) into your category that this blog is only a forum for those that hate FSP, Sharon, Roy and Julie is just wrong.

    Yes, there are some things that are said on FSP AND on this forum that I don’t agree with. But nobody put me in charge.

    Whether or not I agree with what is said ANYWHERE has nothing to do with the fact that Stacy is missing.

  128. lol noway I highly doubt they tell you to bring your bikini. they do tell you to bring only the necessities.
    It is very likely that drew killed her I don’t rule that out at all.
    I’m just having a hard time rationlizing public opinion that drew is an evil monster and so slick he can get away with two murders.
    someone that slick would not involve anyone including Morphey. So that tells me drew is a dummy, a 29y veteran police officer would know that minute his fourth wife went missing he would be the suspect and he would also know that his third wifes death would be looked at again.
    So did drew kill stacy in the am then leave her in the house for over 6 hours then move her?
    I doubt that because the dogs would have went nuts in that house, the smell of death would be everywhere her body was moved through out the house. IMO
    Did he kill her then move her when he ran his 15 minute errand?
    How and where did he dispose of the body?
    My guess would be somewhere very far away from bolingbrook.

  129. Those sources could be reporters who watched the dogs react.

    Nothing official has been leaked.

    If the dogs hit, would they arrest Drew?

  130. That was my take on the sources it was from the reporters.
    Between the dog hits and morphey stating he carried out stacy in a blue tote, IMO if those are true and accurate I don’t understand why no arrest. what more could they want besides a body?

  131. I don’t know anything about cadaver dogs and how long a body has to be there for them to get a hit.

    I think the hit was from Kathleen and that is why DP got rid of the bedside table.

    As freedom pointed out, if he had moved a dead body through the house, most likely there would have been other hits.

    However, what if she wasn’t dead yet?

    My suspicious mind thought he might have tasered her or just knocked her out, tied her up, and disposed of her later.

    It may or may not have been in the blue container Morphey (allegedly for any skeptics) helped him move. I keep going back and forth on whether I think the body was in that container.

  132. freedom – then, let me say, we are passionate in our beliefs and it comes through. I may not agree with your way of thinking, and you may not agree with mine. I would hope that we might learn something from each other, or from other bloggers here, that may give us pause as to our way of thinking.

    If it is the reporters that are the sources who claim the cadaver dogs got a hit, then, to me, that is a re-opening for me to hope that she is, in fact, alive. Just that, who knows under what circumstances that may be.

  133. Freedom, the hit by the dogs indicated that a dead body had been there at one time.

    Tom Morphey has stated that he thought he helped Drew move Stacy’s body. (This is hearsay … what his friend Walter has stated.)

    I do not have any official source for either of these. (smile)

    Neither of those by themselves means that Stacy Peterson WAS killed in the bedroom and that Tom and Drew MOVED her body.

    I’m not sure why you are in such a hurry for Drew Peterson to be arrested. You do realize that once he was arrested, he would be given the right to a speedy trial?

    There is such a thing as having enough evidence to procede to trial. These two things are not it.

    I’m not saying ISP does not have more … these are what’s been released to the public.

  134. I do remember bruce saying after his gj testimony that stacy was depressed and sounded letharigic that morning when he spoke with her.
    was she taking to many meds and od? or did drew help her od?
    I don’t buy the morphey story, he may have helped remove a container but I doubt it had stacy in it.
    I would not doubt drew being in a panic either because stacy left him or he killed her and having to dispose of things in his house that were illegal (dirty cop items) or even things that may tie him to kathleens death.
    but then again the paint story makes no sense to me either.

  135. freedom – why don’t you buy TMorphey’s story? All he can attest to is that he did, in fact, move a container. Unless he was told by DPeterson what was in it (Stacy), then his story isn’t actually a story. It’s a description of his actions.

    I believe he said he “thought” SPeterson was in that container, no?

  136. Actually, I’m waiting to hear what the outcome was of a hearing that was held yesterday as to the status of DPeterson’s teen sons having to appear before the GJ.

    Me, personally, I think they hold the key to a lot of things. I don’t believe they’re willing participants, but I believe they are in the proverbial “trick bag.”

    God help them.

  137. noway I’m not in a hurry for him to be arrested, I just feel that LE would have acted by now if they had proof in the pudding that he killed stacy.
    there is sooo much to consider concerning the dog hits, I’ve researched this quite a bit and without finding a body the hits are pretty inaccurate and don’t hold up in a court of law. Now had the dogs hit and they found forensic evidence, blood/body fluids that were Stacy’s then the hits with the dna would be very valid and in a court of law IMO would be solid evidence.
    If that was the case then the house would have been sealed off as a crime scene and I doubt drew would be living in it.
    LE has me seriously wondering if they have anything for 2 reasons
    1. the hearsay law that they are trying to pass
    2. the shady way they revoked drew’s foid card

  138. I am not even going to begin to say I know what I’m talking about when discussing why LE is or isn’t arresting DPeterson. I THINK I’m right when I say that once he’s arrested, his trial must go forth within 120 days. So, better have all the ducks in a row.

  139. freedom08, on April 30th, 2008 at 11:07 am Said:
    2. the shady way they revoked drew’s foid card

    Do you know for a fact that it was “shady”, how do you know that they didn’t have a good reason for doing it?

  140. Freedom, I agree with Rescueapet. Tom Morphey (according to what we’ve read) said to his friend: I think I helped Drew move Stacy’s body.

    NOT I helped Drew move Stacy’s body.

    As far as whether Stacy could be alive. That too is a possibility.

    Consider that she was in fear of her life. After all, she knew he had killed his first wife. And for what violation of rules? Nothing that justifies murder comes to mind.

    So … Stacy is now thinking that she wants a divorce.

    Just like Kathleen did.

    So … Stacy could believe that she would suffer the same fate. Now say she said “Divorce me and I won’t tell anyone you killed Kathleen.”

    Maybe she didn’t tell Drew she had already told the pastor.

    Regardless, he doesn’t agree to the divorce.

    So she does leave “on her own” hoping that if she is gone without a trace, the pastor will come forward. He has.

    Now she is somewhere (on a beach in her bikini) waiting for Drew to be charged with Kathleen’s murder.

    Stacy will return and face whatever charges are made against her.

    What do you think? Okay, I know the bikini comment was uncalled for … but if you’re going to leave on your own, is everything but a bikini replaceable?

  141. norescuepet the reason I don’t buy morphey’s story is

    1. initially it was reported that drew and morphey spent over 2 hours at a coffee shop. some say it was krispy creme and some say it was starbucks. the tape fuhrman showed with 2 men in a coffeshop for over two hours has never been verified as being drew or morphey atleast to the public.
    2. now morphey’s brother is claiming drew took tom to the coffee shop then they left and went to the park and that is where drew left morphey with the phone and a call came in that the id was stacy
    3. the tote was warm to the touch? dead people are cold not warm.

    I don’t believe that drew would kill stacy then have morphey help him move her body in a blue tote.

  142. luvpups the state moved in record time to revoke his card. has the state ever moved in record time?
    Also it has never been released what the reasoning for revoking his card was. He is not a convicted felon or even a convicted anything, he had no restraining order out on him. so what was the legal reason to revoke the card?
    why not revoke the card before the judge rules in favor of giving drew his guns back?
    the state IMO thought the judge would not rule in drews favor and once they did the state had to find another way to keep him from getting his guns.
    time will tell if it was shady I believe there will be an appeal and also would not doubt if the NRA gets involved.
    When the judge ruled drew could get his guns back

  143. When my son (now grown) was a baby, young tot, as do many children, he had a favorite blanket. Wouldn’t leave that thing for the world. If you have had small kids, you know what I’m talking about. It turned into a “thing” that once resembled a blanket over the years, but, nonetheless, it was near and dear. To him, me and his dad.

    Of course, as happens, when he grew up, that blanket was no longer the core of his world. Not to him. But it still was, and is, to me. Till this day, that poor excuse of a blanket is hidden away, but safe.

    I say this because I’m trying to convey my thoughts and a point regarding SPeterson leaving.

    I can’t help but think she would have taken at least a piece of her children with her. There is nothing that I have seen, heard or read that says she would have instantly and totally left her kids, not at least without taking something of theirs with her. The smell of them on a piece of a blanket. Something. A bikini?

    It just doesn’t make any sense to me.

  144. freedom – re: TMorphey. Ah, but we’re going by what we hear, once again. Brothers/friend repeat one thing, the press has reported another. It’s a version of what happened, but, never has he been seen or quoted anywhere. So, if you don’t buy into his “story,” it’s not of his doing. It’s only what has been repeated by others.

  145. I understand what the neighbor and morphey’s brother have said that morphey said he thinks he moved stacy’s body.
    morphey has yet to tell the public anything we only have hearsay to go on.
    that being said I don’t get the point of ensuring that I know what was claimed that morhpey said.
    I’m not the one that assumes by morphey’s comments that drew is guilty of killing stacy.

  146. Is being a suspect in the disappearance and possible murder enough?

    Is being the suspect (although not named as such) in the murder of your third wife enough?

    I don’t know anything about FOID cards. I’ll get to a link and read up.

    Maybe it was a combination of all these things? Maybe the state has the right to make a judgment call?

  147. rescueapet

    i can understand as a mother of 5 the many article & sentiments that r apart of what a person loves.

    having said that, if i left, yes i would take a little bit of something with me. things that r small.

    my husband & family wouldnt have a clue if i took anything or not. so many toys, so many clothing so many cards, so many of everything. nobody would know a thing is missing as long as i didnt take the kitchen sink with me.

  148. concerning morphey it would probably help his credibility if his family-brother & sister didnt post on fsp. im sure that makes alot of people cringe that truely want this case closed.

  149. Ah yes, but, sami, you would take the “special” thing with you. That child would know it was missing, no?

  150. actually no rescueapet i wouldnt take something that i knew my child would be upset about if it was gone. no way would i do that. that alone would kill me knowing that not only did i take off for whatever reason but i took something else of theirs that would hurt them.

  151. rescueapet, on April 30th, 2008 at 10:54 am Said:
    freedom – then, let me say, we are passionate in our beliefs and it comes through. I may not agree with your way of thinking, and you may not agree with mine. I would hope that we might learn something from each other, or from other bloggers here, that may give us pause as to our way of thinking.

    If it is the reporters that are the sources who claim the cadaver dogs got a hit, then, to me, that is a re-opening for me to hope that she is, in fact, alive. Just that, who knows under what circumstances that may be.
    —-

    yes I agee and learning is what it’s all about and not just concerning this case.

    as far as morphey yes we are going by what we have heard from the press, his neighbor and his brother. The story did change and I’m not understanding what you are saying that it’s not of morphey’s doing?
    I’m just saying that what we are hearing is not from morphey’s lips.

    and regarding the bikini statement what do you expect from an idiot like drew? he has to make his story sounds good regardless if he killed stacy or she left him.

  152. LOL, at you freedom. I see the word “idiot” in your post. On that, I agree as to name calling fitting the right person.

  153. rescue, I don’t think for a minute that she left them, let alone took their dear stuff.

    The rest of the story, it’s hard to get a grip on. Morphey seems pretty real, especially now that his family is speaking up. But only on FSP? Do we know it’s really them? No. I take everything from the turds website with a few grains…

  154. huh morphey’s family is posting on fsp. oh dear.

    here’s a theory
    stacy wants drew out of her life, he won’t leave she really can’t go to LE and tell them he’s a murderer and she’s an accessory to murder. But after watching how Lisa stebic husband was treated when his wife went missing, Stacy comes up with a plan to frame drew and rid her of him once in for all.
    So she goes to the pastor to set the stage.
    She calls Kathleens attorney to represent her a few days before she comes up missing
    She has a paint date with Cass and Bruce that Cass has no idea about it.
    She goes to morphey and cried on his shoulder about drew and how she had to get away from him until he was put behind bars for killing kathleen and also because she feared for her life. She needs morphey’s help and he will do anything for stacy especially when it comes to getting her away from drew.
    stacy leaves bruce takes her to where she’s going to hide out. morphey tells his story. cass once stacy is safe starts looking for her and immediately reports her as a missing person.
    just another theory to chew on.

  155. Okay. I have a question. If DPeterson’s sons are compelled to testify before the GJ, if you were on the GJ, what questions would you have for them? Other than the usual questions, such as “did you hear your parents fighting,” I wonder if they’d want to hear them give details of what really went on behind closed doors.

  156. yes rescue I think drew is a poor excuse for a man. but I believe in the truth and also justice sooo I spend my time trying to pick all apart. I don’t have to spend much time on drew as he’s easy pickings and many focus on him so I look at things out of the box.

  157. sami – Sharon doesn’t blog here. Calling her a name is against the rules, not mine, Gatehouse’s. Besides, it serves no usual purpose.

  158. I was going to use those exact words, “think outside the box” when I was asking what others would want to hear the teens testify to at the GJ.

    But, then, I thought better of it. I would want to come up with a really “knock ’em out” kind of question, one that the attorneys, nor their father, could have anticipated, so they’d be able to think of an answer spontaneously, instead of being rehearsed.

    I can’t help but think they’re being coached if and when the time comes to appearing before the GJ. Someone, thus, on that GJ has to have a question that is thinking “outside the box.”

  159. rescueapet

    until the heads of this blog can prove drew blogs here, i would say the same rule applies.

    doesnt it?

    i made my point. i used the exact “name” being called on drew & gave IMO the same name to sharon & u jumped on that immediately.

    that would be the definition of hyppocrisy

  160. noway I don’t really know if being a suspect is enough to revoke a foid card if it is then they should have revoked his foid card in Nov when they declared him a suspect.
    The way the state went about it IMO looks shady, it was like one way or another legal or not we will keep him from his guns.
    IMO BBPD and ISP have a real corruption problem and they need a scapegoat. Drew did not control BBPD nor did he control ISP, he’s a desk sargent not chief of police or chief of ISP. no doubt in my mind that both departments are having to clean up quite a bit and drew will be one of their scapegoats!!

  161. As far as what to ask the boys at the GJ, I would ask them if they saw stacy leave the house.

    I would also ask them about the weekend their mother died what all they did and were drew and stacy around all weekend, if they can remember.

  162. There is a wealth of questions they could be asked. Do you know if a container is missing? Did your mom have a talk with you guys about leaving their dad? Did you see your mom pack any boxes of your dad’s stuff.

    I think those poor kids hold the key to everything. Everything.

  163. Everyone involved in this case is human. Maybe we could just say that this has not been anyone’s finest hour and leave it at that. Whether they post here or not.

  164. I don’t know that “covering up” is the term I would use. The kids might have questioned something and Drew explained it. They believed his explanation.

    If they heard from ISP something that contradicts what Drew told them, they might ask “Well, what about ____?” Dad said “_________.”

    No, I don’t think covering up is the right word.

    Do I think the kids know everything (as Drew has stated?). No. Way.

    If you “knew” someone had come forward and said that your stepmom told him your dad had killed your mom years ago, would you be “bored” when a story about your stepmom came on television?

    IMO No. Way.

  165. good questions rescue, I had heard a rumor don’t even remember where that Stacy had told the Kris I believe earlier that saturday to pack some clothes.

    I don’t know who in the heck was giving Stacy advice but it wasn’t good advice, IMO.
    If any woman is dealing with a abusive control freak husband the most dangerous time is when you try to leave or try to make them leave.
    So if it’s true that Stacy was trying to kick drew out and keep all 4 kids then she was playing with fire and it was only a matter of time before he killed her. She would be lucky to get out of that house with her two kids and be able to move on.
    Especially considering Stacy claims she knows drew killed kathleen. The pastor should have immediately taken steps to get her to safety, Carol Penn her friend that works for the village should have known the proper way for Stacy to deal with drew and keep her safe. Shelters and professional help that stacy could turn to. Sharon her neighbor if she really knew of the abuse stacy was living why didn’t she get her out of that house, same with Cass and Pam. Why not one call to the police for any kind of abuse problems. there were 18 made from Kathleen to document abuse and child custody issues.
    I know hindsight is 20/20 but come on it appears someone was advising stacy to get bold and do what drew normally does when he’s ready to move along to the next wife.
    It makes no sense to me that she was in so much danger according to these same folks that left her in that house.

  166. no I don’t think they are covering for their father.
    I do think they would be protective of their father as most kids are.

  167. I think the teen children may not necessarily be covering for their father by uttering words, but they may very well have information that they aren’t forthcoming with. Unusual behavior on the part of their father, maybe, that they saw from the time their mother disappeared, and afterwards.

    Assuming they are privy to a lot of things they know but just don’t want to face, it’s understandable to have compassion for these boys. Their home life, as they know it, would be over, they may be moved away from their schools and their friends. They have no extended family anymore that I can see, other than DPeterson’s son, Steve. No family of Stacy’s in their life, no family of their biological mother in their life. That only leaves DPeterson’s family. And their friends.

    One teen is not much younger than SPeterson was when she became DPeterson’s arm candy. Some are saying that SPeterson knew how KSavio died, starting with the night it happened.

    What’s to say those two boys aren’t now in the same situation? Teens!!!!!!!!!! If so, will the day come, later, when they will “fess up” and tell everyone they know how SPeterson died? Will they be ridiculed and chastised for it?

    What do you think?

  168. I do think the abuse Stacy suffered was verbal, not physical but that the threats of physical violence were there.

    It appears he fed on whatever insecurities she had and made “repairs” as needed. But as I stated before, I think the insecurity about how she looked stemmed from her wanting to change from the person she’d been.

    If we are to believe that Stacy knew Drew had killed Kathleen (and I at least believe that is what she told the pastor), then she knew he was capable of violence and so from the very beginning, she should have feared for her life (knowing what she knew).

  169. If it comes to pass that the truth is she told Pastor Schuri (sp?) that she deduced he killed KSavio, by way of his actions and her “understanding” of the situation, it is not that hard to believe that those teen boys are in the same awful predicament. Period. What do they do then? Stand up like “men” and send their father to the gallows, or learn to survive in the situation and predicament that was dealt them, like it or not?

    I’m not about to say I can get into the head of DPeterson’s teen sons and predict what they know, and how they would handle that knowledge. All I’m saying is, it’s not that unreasonable to assume they are now in the same boat SPeterson was at one time. Right or wrong. It’s their call. What do they do with it?

  170. I doubt the kids know how SP died unless one of them had a hand in it.

    but if they had would they be ridiculed and chastised for it.
    I doubt it, there isn’t the incentive for a better life with stacy out of the way or tons of $$$$ to spend that would make it worth wild to cover it up.
    you can’t compare these kids to stacy IMO whole different ball game.

  171. Good point about what the boys know or don’t know.

    They could know “something” and don’t realize the importance of what they saw or heard.

    I do question Drew’s reluctance to let the boys testify before the GJ. If he has nothing to hide, what harm could there be in them telling the GJ whatever it is they want to know?

    And as far as whether they should be held accountable years from now when/if they feel comfortable, I say “yes.” But I think the same is true for Stacy, if she is alive.

    Most likely they will be chastised, the same way Stacy is being.

    Yes, the boys are kids. They rely on Drew for everything. Much the way Stacy did.

  172. freedom – my point exactly. Protective is a way of handling the situation they’re in. Maybe he didn’t come right out and tell them he based in the head of their adoptive mother, but maybe, just maybe, they can “deduce” what happened to her. In that case, they are in no different a situation than SPeterson was at the time of KSavio’s death. Yes, SPeterson was a prissy young piece of arm candy during the meltdown of DPeterson’s marriage to KSavio, but, I can’t help but go back to that one thing that sticks in my mind. She was a teen, no much older than DPeterson’s sons are now.

    So, with the information she had about KSavio’s death, did she “protect” DPeterson. Why? Did she “love” him? What he the core of her universe?

    Was she right? Legally and morally no. But, are DPeterson’s son privy to the same “kind” of information, and are they right?

    Who the heck knows. It’s their father. They’re trying to survive the only way they know how.

    Off my soapbox now.

  173. rescue by stacy’s own words to the pastor she did not deduce nor by way of his actions that he killed kathleen.
    her own words to the pastor where that dp told her when he got back that he killed kathleen.

    I highly doubt drew told the boys he killed stacy and that they have to give him an alibi.

  174. I didn’t know that she specifically said he told her he killed KSavio. I thought he told her police were going to be coming with questions, and she was to say they were together.

    I can’t image that he would be stupid enough to admit that he committed a murder.

  175. stacy was a legal adult at 17, she went to court and was emancipated, obviously the judge agreed she was mature enough to be a legal adult.
    Stacy was 19 when kathleen was killed.

  176. Oh me, oh my! Ok…a couple of thoughts here.

    1) I have not seen where Sharon announced that the children are home alone and I cannot imagine it being posted as an announcement. Was it misinterpreted or just gossip run amuck?

    2) Nobody knows for sure that Stacy carried the death of KS for 4 years. NOBODY knows for sure. For all we know, DP could have told her only two months ago…”remember that night I came in with the black clothing? Well..I wasn’t out on an undercover job…I took care of KS and just like I will take care of you if you think you’re leaving”….etc. The next thing you know Stacy pieces back events of four years ago and puts it together and runs to the Pastor. So she very well may have only known of DP’s involvement in KS’s death for the past 2 months prior to her leaving…Point is…WE DON”T KNOW.

  177. And this is why I am very interested in hearing all of the pastor’s testimony.

    How old does one have to be to realize that if you have knowledge of a murder, no matter who the person is who did the killing, you have an obligation to report it.

    Yes, Drew Peterson was a police officer. But he wasn’t the only police officer in Bolingbrook. And I don’t know that REPORTING a murder has jurisdiction. Maybe it does.

    WHY would she not tell her family? Cass?

    Would authorities have taken a closer look at Kathleen’s death with this information? I don’t think there is any way to know that. And hind sight is 20-20.

    Ugh! With each question raised, 50 more come into my head.

  178. lavanda if u r to believe that she indeed what she said to the pastor is true then she knew for 4 years.

    she gave drew an alibi immediately after the murder & the pastor reitterated that 4 years later.

  179. I can’t imagine it either but he did just like I can’t imagine he recruited morphey to help him move the container that had stacy’s body in it.

    and it would not surprise me one bit that what stacy told the pastor was not true, but her way to get away from drew.
    from the pastor interview.

    Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told Fox News Channel’s Greta Van Susteren in an interview broadcast Monday that Stacy Peterson told him in August that her husband, Drew Peterson, admitted killing his previous wife, Kathleen Savio.

  180. Lavonda,
    We are basing our knowledge of when Stacy knew that Kathleen was killed by Drewe on the pastor’s testimony which was made public. Somewhere around here there is a transcript from (I think) Greta.

  181. Whatever SPeterson knew about KSavio and/or when, and what his teen sons know now about SPeterson, to me, they’re all in the same mess, one that was created by the same person, DPeterson.

    Those teens were in that house at relevant times, just as SPeterson was when DPeterson came home from “possibly” killing his ex-wife.

    To me, there’s no difference. You can reason what each knew or didn’t know, but it all comes back to the same thing. They had/have information that is relevant to the fate of two women.

    What a mess to be in.

  182. even for politically correct reasons the cops had to question the ex husbands whereabouts at the time of kathleens death. at that point in time drews alibi was cemented by stacy. if what stacy told the cops is true then drew didnt kill kathleen.

    if stacy was lying then he probably killed kathleen. which is true?

  183. I don’t think I can answer the other question on this forum. Sharon would have to address that, and to my knowledge, she is not a member of this forum.

  184. Why are folks painting Stacy as some horrible person and totally overlooking the scumbag 46 year old man who was courting a 17 year old girl!! Would you all want your 17 year old daughter dating a 46 year old man??????

  185. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm Said:
    Who said Stacy went to court and was emancipated at 17? Where did that info come from?
    —–

    I posted it and it’s out there and true. Her father had lost custody of all the children and stacy went to a family friend who became her guardian then at 17 she asked to be emancipated and was.
    You are welcome to search for it. I will also but don’t have time to do it now.

  186. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm Said:
    Why are folks painting Stacy as some horrible person and totally overlooking the scumbag 46 year old man who was courting a 17 year old girl!! Would you all want your 17 year old daughter dating a 46 year old man??????

    who is overlooking drew? who? we’re just not overlooking anyone. these are things that have been presented by the family, pastor, drew, friends & neighbor.

  187. Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told Fox News Channel’s Greta Van Susteren in an interview broadcast Monday that Stacy Peterson told him in August that her husband, Drew Peterson, admitted killing his previous wife, Kathleen Savio.

    *******************

    Stacy told him in August (2 months before her disappearance) that he admitted killing his previous wife.

    But my question now is, when did he admit this to her? Four years ago, or in August of 2007?

    After all, her death was ruled an accident by the powers that be. If SPeterson knew from day 1 he killed her, then she sure as hell knew he could kill her too. How else does a man murder someone and have the death ruled as an accident? Seems to me, she may have very well knew her place, and she better not stray from it!!

    Same goes for his sons. I am in no way blaming them for their father’s actions, but I do believe they have knowledge that is crushing them.

  188. Rescuepet, what you say about the boys is so true. What a terrible situation for them.

    Mother dies; years later it is determined to be homicide. Stepmother (is this the correct term if she adopted them?) missing, possibly murdered.

    Even if you change that second part to just “missing” …

    I don’t believe for one second that they are “bored” by the whole thing. Why in the world would Drew make them out to be calloused, unfeeling human beings?

    BORED that your mom’s death was a homicide? BORED that your stepmom is missing?

    Oh, that just pisses me off.

  189. but she gave drew an alibi when kathleen was found dead.

    was she lying then? if so she knew he did it

    if she was telling the truth of his whereabouts then he didnt do it.

  190. Drew was a cop…and a sly lying one at that. Again…we don’t know what he may have told Stacy. He may have told her he was on some big undercover case against another BB cop…and now that KS died they may try and pin something on him cuz they may have a clue he’s investigating them. We just don’t know what story he came up with…that Stacy fell for and very well could have innocently covered for Drew. We don’t know. So to point blank accuse Stacy, the victim in this, as a corrupt wife and nasty person is totally unfounded and based merely on assumptions. That’s about all any of us can do is assume…but there is , believe it or not, a nicer way to assume things. IF you know what I mean.

  191. Looks like the Greta transcript has been archived from this section. Unless I read it wrong, Greta asked the pastor to clarify when Stacy found out that Drew murdered Kathleen.

    The pastor stated that it was the night he murdered Kathleen (paraphrased).

    I will try to find.

  192. Poster Unclezeek, Tina’s brother in law, posted that Stacy became emancipated the day she turned 17 years old. 1/20/2001

    (InSession thread)

  193. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm Said:
    Drew was a cop…and a sly lying one at that. Again…we don’t know what he may have told Stacy. He may have told her he was on some big undercover case against another BB cop…and now that KS died they may try and pin something on him cuz they may have a clue he’s investigating them. We just don’t know what story he came up with…that Stacy fell for and very well could have innocently covered for Drew. We don’t know. So to point blank accuse Stacy, the victim in this, as a corrupt wife and nasty person is totally unfounded and based merely on assumptions. That’s about all any of us can do is assume…but there is , believe it or not, a nicer way to assume things. IF you know what I mean.

    im sorry lavonda but that is reaching to the moon. give me a break.

  194. theoriginalsami, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:48 pm Said:
    but she gave drew an alibi when kathleen was found dead.

    was she lying then? if so she knew he did it

    if she was telling the truth of his whereabouts then he didnt do it.
    ***************************

    I don’t know, Sami. I don’t know exactly which night which alibi she gave covers when exactly they pinpointed as to KS’s death? There were quite a few hours there between her death and when they found her. I blame the BB on that one. The coroner who signed wasn’t too smart either…if you all go to AMW site and take a look at the death certificate…you will be shocked. The dummy who did the autopsy report dated it incorrectly and if you add the time up….it appears she had an AUTOPSY while she was still alive. So who can say exactly which alibi, which exact moment was she “covering” for Drew and was she covering at all? Perhaps when they questioned her the time she gave was indeed the time he was home. We just don’t know for sure…………not yet.

  195. lavonda and by nicer do u state there is a nicer way to assume.

    could ur remarks about drew be considered a nicer way also?

    just asking.

  196. Boling: You said “why dont you bother reading the whole interview? stacy told shori that then night before savio was found in the tub, so thats the night of the murder, not four years later. stacy WAITED four years to say anything.”
    **************************************

    Again, it is hearsay repeated conversation. We are not privy to HOW it was stated. We don’t know for sure. It does not specifically state that THE NIGHT after he killed Kathleen he admitted it to Stacy. It does not state that Stacy told the pastor she had to carry this for four years. We are taking points out of context. We just don’t know the real way it was presented and the context it was in.

  197. Yes, I found the Greta transcript and read it, posted it here (someplace) and I was also under the false impression Stacy *may* not have know.

    She knew. The night KS died, she knew.

    And that right there is the ugly truth.

  198. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm Said:
    Why are folks painting Stacy as some horrible person and totally overlooking the scumbag 46 year old man who was courting a 17 year old girl!! Would you all want your 17 year old daughter dating a 46 year old man??????

    don’t start LD we are discussing all aspect, if you can’t deal with that then that’s your problem.
    if stacy is being painted in a horrible light that is her doing NOT anyone elses. She is the one that told the pastor this information.

  199. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm Said:
    Boling: You said “why dont you bother reading the whole interview? stacy told shori that then night before savio was found in the tub, so thats the night of the murder, not four years later. stacy WAITED four years to say anything.”
    **************************************

    Again, it is hearsay repeated conversation. We are not privy to HOW it was stated. We don’t know for sure. It does not specifically state that THE NIGHT after he killed Kathleen he admitted it to Stacy. It does not state that Stacy told the pastor she had to carry this for four years. We are taking points out of context. We just don’t know the real way it was presented and the context it was in.

    omg lavonda she gave the cops an alibi 4 years PRIOR. had she told them she couldnt find him & he wouldnt answer the phone they might have looked into it further but the facts remain that she gave drew an alibi at that time-4 years prior.

  200. lavonda and by nicer do u state there is a nicer way to assume. could ur remarks about drew be considered a nicer way also? just asking.
    *******************************************

    I’m talking about how folks are interacting with each other here. Everyone has a point of view…to mock each other and to scream out and call each other names is not necessary. WE all are ASSUMING…everyone of us…on both sides. There is just a nicer way to “assume”.

  201. Seriously … most of what we have is “hearsay” since we are not law enforcement and we “read” or “saw on TV” from some reporter that so and so said ____.

    That should not stop us from having a conversation about it.

    I hardly think Greta Van Somebody is an “official source” where law enforcement is concerned but it certainly should be okay here!

  202. and isnt that why the state is changing the hearsay laws? so dont forget, if they allow hearsay evidence from sharon, cassandra,etc. they also have to allow it from shori. i bet if you offered shori lie detector test, he would take it and pass with flying colors. too bad dp doesnt have the same size cajones. sure would put alot of this nonsense to rest.

  203. Freedom, it is going a bit beyond what Stacy told the Pastor and/or what the media has reported. There are people here talking about things that is blatant gossip and could be and may not be factual. Unnecesarry comments that neither KS nor SP can defend themselves about…such as “KS was drunk”, “Stacy slept w KS’s husband in the basement of KSs home”, etc etc etc.

  204. lavandadolce
    Again, it is hearsay repeated conversation. We are not privy to HOW it was stated. We don’t know for sure. It does not specifically state that THE NIGHT after he killed Kathleen he admitted it to Stacy. It does not state that Stacy told the pastor she had to carry this for four years. We are taking points out of context. We just don’t know the real way it was presented and the context it was in.
    ———

    LOL LD you are something else, almost all the things you are accusing drew of as fact is also hearysay.
    Like morphey’s story!!

    get a grip you are looking not to good in this conversation.

  205. I believe that Drew Peterson would pass a lie detector test easily………and still be guilty. He is no doubt of a narcisstic type personality and I believe that HE believes that what comes out of his own mouth is truth. He’d pass it easily. So it works both ways. It’s not fool proof.

  206. What have I presented as “fact” that you are claiming is hearsay? Do tell, Boling. By the way, I don’t believe I made a single comment in this entire forum about Thomas Morphey. So please tell me what I stated as fact….that you wish to tell me is actually hearsay.

  207. lavonda, so now youre saying savio is also a liar, because she is the one that said stacy was sneaking in the house to bang dp. i dont believe for one minute that at any time stacy DIDNT know what she was doing. like i said, riding that gravy train right to the last stop.

  208. I support hearsay on both sides. Absolutely. And only because I don’t believe Stacy’s body will be found. Let those who hear the hearsay make the determination of what is logical and what is rumor…however, that can only be done once a trial transpires…because I believe there is also a lot more to this case than what’s been publicized.

  209. I included the background text and not just the quote, so you have to read a bit. (Short version: He did it … He killed Kathleen … (Stacy) She had specific information about him not being in the house. … The night Kathleen died? Uh huh.)

    So IF we agree that Schori is telling the truth about what Stacy told him, Drew killed Kathleen and Stacy knew from the night Kathleen died.

    * * * * * *

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316418,00.html

    VAN SUSTEREN: And what did she describe as the reason that she needed to meet with you?

    SCHORI: Again, it was some of the same relationship issues that she had concerns about, but she kept leading me to believe that there was some other reason that she had for meeting that day.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Were you able to get that reason from her, or did she want to talk about it? How did that happen?

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I try not to push people into an area that they’re uncomfortable, and I gave her — I gave her an out. I said, If you’d like to share it with me, I’m here to hear it, I said, but there’s no pressure. You don’t have to feel like you have to share anything you’re not comfortable with. So if you are — if you are comfortable, please share it. And we talked about various other things, and then she blurted out the reason.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Which was?

    SCHORI: She said, He did it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Just like that.

    SCHORI: Just like that.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know what the reference point was, as that point, that, He did it?

    SCHORI: I had a feeling, but I needed clarification, so of course, I followed up.

    VAN SUSTEREN: How did you happen to know that that — I mean, had you spoken about the “He did it” aspect before with her?

    SCHORI: I had never spoken with her about that before. I had just heard casual conversations in the community and in my own church about speculation over an interesting death of Mr. Peterson’s wife, his third wife.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So when she said, He did it, what did you believe that to mean?

    SCHORI: I believed, unfortunately, that it was exactly what I thought, and I believed that it was related to the death of his wife. But I clarified, and I said, He did what? And she said, He killed Kathleen. And I was really blown away. I was reeling inside.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So how — what did do you?

    SCHORI: I asked for more specific things. She gave me details that I really can’t share. But I just got her talking about it and asked her what — this is a crazy amount of information. Again, I asked her, What exactly can I do with this? Why did you tell me? I asked her if she had ever told anyone else. She said at the time, she had never told another person.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What was the reason for her all of a sudden do you think or the compulsion to suddenly tell you? What was — what was eating at her, or why did she want to tell you?

    SCHORI: I’ve wondered that for two-and-a-half months. I hope that it’s because she looked at me as a safe person that she could share some very important information with. It’s really speculation, at this point.

    VAN SUSTEREN: How do you know that it wasn’t just speculation on her part, you know, that she had information that he had — did it?

    SCHORI: She had specific information.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Like?

    SCHORI: She had specific information about his not being in the house.

    VAN SUSTEREN: The night Kathleen died?

    SCHORI: Uh-huh.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say she’d ever confronted him about it?

    SCHORI: They talked shortly after that about it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: And did he admit it to her, or did she put two and two together?

    SCHORI: It was more than just putting two and two together. It was not speculation on her part.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she see something?

    SCHORI: No.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Was there any — besides the fact that he wasn’t home that night, did — were there any other clues or signs that he wasn’t just — I mean, I don’t why anyone would brag about it, but I mean, that he wasn’t just lying about it or trying to scare her or something?

    SCHORI: Well, she shared details with me that I can’t — I’m not comfortable getting into, but it was very clear. It was very clear that this was not just speculation. She was not jumping to conclusions.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why did she stay with him after that?

    SCHORI: That’s a really good question. My guess would be out of fear.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she ever say she was afraid of him?

    SCHORI: Yes.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say she was going to leave him?

    SCHORI: Never — she never told me she was going to, no.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she ever give an explanation or did Drew Peterson ever say to her why he did it?

    SCHORI: Not that she told me.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she ever talk to the police?

    SCHORI: She never shared this with the police.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Police ever go to her and ask her?

    SCHORI: She was interviewed by the police.

    VAN SUSTEREN: She didn’t tell them?

    SCHORI: She didn’t tell them that, no.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What did she tell them?

    SCHORI: I don’t know that for sure. I just know that she did not tell them that.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say why she didn’t tell the police, you know, when they talked to her about Kathleen Savio’s death, what she knew?

    SCHORI: I believe she was simply afraid.

  210. Boling….please send the link to where Kathleen was saying that Stacy was sneaking in the house to bang DP. This I would like to see because I have not read that ANYWHERE. And I’m not talking about a link in a forum………show me where in the media or documents in which this was stated.

  211. lavonda, dont you even bother reading what you write? scroll up, you just said what shori said in his interview is hearsay.repeat repeat repeat, geez.

  212. geesh lavonda u keep stating things as fact even what stacy said or drew said then u say people r using hearsay. i cant keep up with u.

  213. Maybe the other things he didn’t want to share were more the issues Stacy had with her marriage to Drew, but regardless, I am interested in hearing all of the pastor’s testimony.

  214. noway, everyone would pay big money to hear that conversation, and for all we know he told the gj all of it. after all, there is no priest/confessor confidentiality involved so he would have to testify

  215. Sen. A.J. Wilhelmi (D- Joliet) has offered an amendment to the state’s code of criminal procedure, backed by State’s Atty. James Glasgow, that would allow hearsay testimony if the witness who made the statements was not available to testify in person because the defendant had a hand in that person’s absence.
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    that means anything and everything stacy told shori is admissable if the law passes.

  216. BB60440, yes, I had thought there was some kind of confidentiality but someone pointed out that was only Catholics (which I am) so maybe that’s why I was thinking … private confession …

  217. VAN SUSTEREN: Did she say why she didn’t tell the police, you know, when they talked to her about Kathleen Savio’s death, what she knew?

    SCHORI: I believe she was simply afraid.
    *******************************

    He clearly states, “he didn’t know” and he also states “I believe” which means it’s his opinion. The exact timeline of when she learned of DP’s involvement in KS’s death is still UNCLEAR, especially with his “there is more I cannot discuss” …which could very well be compelling evidence that she indeed carried this for four years…or that she knew something about someone else that he cannot discuss…or that the “more information” that he couldn’t share could have implications on someone else in the PD being involved…or a whole host of a lot of things. We can only assume, for now.

  218. Sami, I don’t see anything that I’ve posted as “factual”…I’ve referenced how we all can only assume at least 1,000 times 😉

  219. We had been talking about the FOID card earlier. I started to look stuff up and my computer shut down.

    But I found this and wanted it here so I can find it again.

    Here is the release from James Glasgow’s office:

    Feb. 27, 2008

    The Will County State’s Attorney’s Office announces that it received confirmation from the Illinois Department of State Police on Wednesday that it has revoked the Firearm Owner’s Identification Card of Drew W. Peterson.

    The Illinois Department of State Police confirmed that the department sent a letter to Mr. Peterson on Wednesday informing him of the revocation. Mr. Peterson’s attorney also has been notified.Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow on Tuesday sent a letter to State Police Director Larry G. Trent requesting that his department exercise its authority under 430 Illinois Compiled Statutes 65/8 to revoke Mr. Peterson’s FOID card. Neither the letter from State’s Attorney Glasgow nor the Illinois Department of State Police will be released.

    Mostly need it for the statute number.

  220. I do not understand if Stacy & Sharon were so close why did Stacy not go to her and tell her what she knew ? Was it because she did not want Sharon to know the truth ?

  221. IF she admitted she knew all along he killed KSavio, again, I say DPeterson’s teen sons may very well be in the same situation. I can’t justify why he is fighting letting them appear before a GJ, and will only do so if they’re compelled to appear.

    If they have information that is detrimental to their father, they may very well want to keep it to themselves too, for whatever reason. Fear of him, fear of the unknown. Who knows.

    DPeterson seems to be the only one that can answer that.

  222. WhiteWitch….And how do we know that Stacy DIDN’T go to Sharon and tell her? Not everything is privy to the public. For all you and I know she very well could have told Sharon….and perhaps she didn’t. We don’t know that answer…………..yet.

  223. Drew lived in the basement area when he was dating Stacy.

    She came to visit him there, coming in when Kathleen was asleep or unaware.

    She tried to get the cops to stop it because it was a teenager.

    Nope. They gave her a job at BPD, and told Drew it was peachy.

  224. lavonda

    my point is that u base ur judgements based on hearsay. youve made it clear from day one thats fine.

    others base their judgements on the same thing. we may come out with different endings but we r all allowed to give an opinion.

  225. Yes, we agree that the pastor’s testimony is hearsay. But for the discussion HERE, we accepted it as FACT.

  226. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm Said:
    WhiteWitch….And how do we know that Stacy DIDN’T go to Sharon and tell her? Not everything is privy to the public. For all you and I know she very well could have told Sharon….and perhaps she didn’t. We don’t know that answer…………..yet.

    then we can assume that sharon ran to the cops as soon as she heard?

  227. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm Said:
    What Shori said ……..IS HEARSAY….Boling. Are you seriously going to argue with me on that ?

    _____________________________________
    not arguing that point at all

  228. I honestly do not believe, Rescueapet, that the teen son’s are aware of their father’s involvement in their mothers death. If anything, I believe the reason that Drew is scared of having the kids testify to the GJ is due to reports that have said that the younger son heard Drew and Stacy arguing and then silence. I don’t recall if that was in the media or on a blog so I cannot be sure if that really happened (an argument that the child overheard)…however, it’s my guess that the GJ want to interview both to see what they do know.

  229. dp isnt publicly crucifying himself, is he?
    ——————–

    I dunno. The ‘date withe Drew call to the radio show” was pretty bad, and he’s admitted himself that his ‘gallows humor’ has served him well. I think he realizes now how much that stuff swayed popular opinion, hence his bringing in Glenn Selig. I think it could be too late though.

    That said, I still don’t think any of the spin, positive or negative will really be all that important if it comes to a jury trial. I do believe that there are plenty of people who have no idea who he is or who Stacy was, who can provide a fair and impartial jury.

  230. At least, we have accepted as FACT that Schori did SAY that Stacy knew from the night Kathleen was killed that Drew did it.

    I’m not sure that everyone agreed that Stacy was telling the TRUTH when she said that.

    I’m not hoping to a fight; I just don’t want to say that everyone agreed if they didn’t, and I don’t know that we actually went that far in the discussion.

  231. Sami, I can’t answer that. But good point. If Stacy told Sharon perhaps Sharon gave her advice and then told her own husband who may have said “stay out of it”…Then again, maybe Stacy didn’t tell Sharon as she KNEW Sharon would be the kind of person to go and report it herself and Stacy needed her own way of getting out with the kids before any police came crashing in on them? Who knows. What’s the saying? Six of one, half a dozen of another?

  232. theoriginalsami, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm Said:
    lavonda

    my point is that u base ur judgements based on hearsay. youve made it clear from day one thats fine.

    others base their judgements on the same thing. we may come out with different endings but we r all allowed to give an opinion.
    *****************************************

    Absolutely, Sami. I agree with you, 100%

  233. lavandadolce – with all due respect, can you explain to me why you don’t think the teen sons are aware of their father’s involvement in t heir mother’s disappearance/death (talking about Stacy here)?

    I do think it’s quite reasonable to think they either have information or have formed their own thoughts, or heard enough for it to be very bad for their father.

    They were in that house, before, during and after their mother’s disappearance. Unless those two constantly went into a secluded room at every argument or discussion, they are perfectly aware of the circumstances, including the morning she disappeared. They were there, weren’t they?

  234. noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm Said:
    At least, we have accepted as FACT that Schori did SAY that Stacy knew from the night Kathleen was killed that Drew did it.
    *****************************

    Noway, I’m not convinced of that. I cannot accept that as a “fact ” when the entire conversation between Stacy and Shori has not been divulged. JMHO

  235. if anyone really wants to follow this case, check out acandyrose.com.
    you will find timelines, major players in the case,statements from people. pretty interesting stuff all around.

  236. Lavanda, I’m not sure I get why you don’t see what I see in the quoted material from Greta because the entire conversation was not divulged,

    It is my understanding that there were details that he did not feel he could make public … but it doesn’t seem that it would be something that contradicted what he just said.

    That would be ludicrous.

    I mean to make a statement like this (she told me her husband killed his previous wife and that she knew about it from the night of the murder) and then have something that would contradict that statement? Makes no sense.

  237. There was a follow up to the Schori interview. It seems that he spoke more and not on camera later on:

    MARK FUHRMAN, FMR LAPD HOMICIDE DETECTIVE, FOX ANALYST: Well, Greta, it’s a mouthful, so I’ll start at the beginning. We have to take ourselves back to February 29, that’s Sunday night, into the early morning hours of March 1. That is a Monday.

    Now, Kathleen Savio was found Monday night at 11:17 PM, almost midnight. So prior to that, we heard on Monday Pastor Neil Schori tell you that Stacy actually confided in him that Drew Peterson actually confessed that he had killed Kathleen Savio. And you, of course, followed up, When? And he said that Stacy told him the very night.

    Now, I’ve got sources that have given us, later in the week, we found out that she woke up in the middle of the night. And there was numerous times she tried to find Drew in the house, but she couldn’t find him. She yelled out for him. She called him on the cell phone numerous times, described almost incessantly. He never answers. Where was Drew?

    Now, I was uncomfortable yesterday, I’m more comfortable today with this information. I believe it’s absolutely corroborated that Stacy told Pastor Schori that day that in that time when she finally found Drew in the house, she heard him, he was downstairs by the washing machine. She saw him. He was standing there in all black, stripping down, putting his clothes into the washing machine.

    He also had a bag in his hand that he emptied that was women’s clothes. And he looks at her and he starts telling her, explaining to her, In several hours, the police are going to be here, and they’re going to ask a lot of questions. I’m going to tell you what to say. It will be a perfect crime.

  238. thats the only part of this that doesnt ring true, coming from furhman like that
    “He also had a bag in his hand that he emptied that was women’s clothes. And he looks at her and he starts telling her, explaining to her, In several hours, the police are going to be here, and they’re going to ask a lot of questions. I’m going to tell you what to say. It will be a perfect crime.”
    would it make sense for a cop or 29 yrs to bring his victims clothes home with him? to do what? savio was in her robe,correct, when found? its hard to undertand why dp would undress savio, put her in a robe, dead or alive, then bring her clothes back to his own house? no, i dont buy that part one bit.

  239. rescueapet, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm Said:
    lavandadolce – with all due respect, can you explain to me why you don’t think the teen sons are aware of their father’s involvement in t heir mother’s disappearance/death (talking about Stacy here)?

    I do think it’s quite reasonable to think they either have information or have formed their own thoughts, or heard enough for it to be very bad for their father.

    They were in that house, before, during and after their mother’s disappearance. Unless those two constantly went into a secluded room at every argument or discussion, they are perfectly aware of the circumstances, including the morning she disappeared. They were there, weren’t they?
    *********************************

    I believe the teens were aware of Stacy and Drews argument on the day of Stacy reported missing. When you reference “their mother” I automatically think of Kathleen…and in that case, I do not believe the boys were privy to knowing if DP killed her.

  240. luvpups, I don’t think anybody is saying “she covered up” so she is not worth anything. At all.

    The issue about whether Stacy covered for Drew and whether as such, she should have to face whatever charges (if she is alive) was brought up.

    I stated that if the boys were covering for Drew regarding Stacy’s disappearance, and it was later determined they had covered for Drew, then they should also face whatever charges were brought against them.

    My point was that 13, 15, and 17 is old enough to know that it is wrong. I’m not saying it would easy to testify against your husband or your father. Not one bit.

    NOBODY deserves to be taken from their family without a word.

    And on the other hand …

    NOBODY has the right to disappear without a word to their family

    THE CHILDREN need some answers no matter what the case may be.

    I haven’t come across one person who has stated that Stacy should not be found no matter what their belief is as to what happened to her.

  241. So, what is is, Bolingbrook? Are you holding me accountable for another person’s postings, and, thus, referring to me as part of a lunatic fringe?

    I am going to get off an email to Gatehouse and register a complaint, indicating that I take offense with a blogger here making accusations that are false and misleading.

    rescueapet.

  242. Noway, you said “I mean to make a statement like this (she told me her husband killed his previous wife and that she knew about it from the night of the murder) and then have something that would contradict that statement? Makes no sense.”
    *******************************

    Sometimes what is missing is what pulls the pieces together. There are a lot of “missing pieces”. I’m not saying that I don’t believe that Stacy was unaware of DP’s involvement, I’m saying I can’t state for a fact that it was the night after that Stacy knew of DP’s involvement. There are things “not privy”…until that comes out…I can’t feel comfortable with supporting a “Stacy knew for four years and told nobody” statement.

  243. BB,

    Savio wasn’t found in her robe. She was naked in the bathtub. I assume he knocked her unconscious while she was still clothed and then stripped her and placed her in the tub, where she drowned.

  244. I stated that if the boys were covering for Drew regarding Stacy’s disappearance, and it was later determined they had covered for Drew, then they should also face whatever charges were brought against them.

    My point was that 13, 15, and 17 is old enough to know that it is wrong. I’m not saying it would easy to testify against your husband or your father. Not one bit.
    **************************************

    There is NO WAY anyone will convince me that the boys helped cover up the disappearance of Stacy, nor learned of the truth…and is covering for their dad. I don’t buy that. I believe Drew is sly enough he could pull the wool right over the boys eyes without them even noticing. Stacy was a small girl. She could have fit into his scuba gear duffel bag and he marched right out the door in front of the full views of the boys while they were playing with their Playstation…and pull it off.

  245. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm Said:
    I stated that if the boys were covering for Drew regarding Stacy’s disappearance, and it was later determined they had covered for Drew, then they should also face whatever charges were brought against them.

    _____________________________________
    maybe thats why the boys were given immunity?

  246. bolingbrook60440, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm Said:
    savio was in her robe,correct, when found? its hard to undertand why dp would undress savio, put her in a robe, dead or alive, then bring her clothes back to his own house? no, i dont buy that part one bit.

    Kathleen Savio was found NUDE in her bathtub. Where did you get the idea she was in a robe?

  247. Facsmiley…Also, KS was found with all her jewelry on and her hair down. Her sister stated she always removed her jewelry when bathing and NEVER bathed with her hair down. I believe that. I’m the same exact way.

  248. facsmiley, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm Said:
    BB,

    Savio wasn’t found in her robe. She was naked in the bathtub
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    thanks facs, i thought that was part of the mysterious findings, that she was in her robe, going to have to go back and double check. it sounded strange when i first heard it, why in a robe?

  249. BB, really … why do you bring FSP into nearly every conversation on this forum?

    Here we were … just having a conversation about the case …

  250. Anything is possible, Boling. Perhaps that is why there were given immunity. Albeit, I really REALLY doubt very much that the boys were involved in any way of covering up Stacy’s death.

  251. mmm, I think those boys know a lot. I don’t know, of course, that they’re necessarily part of a cover up, but I think that they’re in survivor mode, and will do whatever it is they need to to remain a family. As I said, there’s no family they have anymore, just each other. They have no Savio family and no Cales family.

    They are, sadly, also victims here.

  252. Boling, I’m with you on your statement regarding Fuhrman. He and Heraldo should get a show together so nobody would watch them. At least not in my house we won’t.

  253. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm Said:
    noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm Said:
    At least, we have accepted as FACT that Schori did SAY that Stacy knew from the night Kathleen was killed that Drew did it.
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    Noway, I’m not convinced of that. I cannot accept that as a “fact ” when the entire conversation between Stacy and Shori has not been divulged. JMHO

    in a nutshell lavonda the fact that stacy gave the cops drews “alibi” when it happened-4 years prior to speaking to the pastor shows she helped him cover it up. or she was telling the truth when she told the cops that drew was with her the entire time. which-would mean that drew is innocent.

    what is so hard about that? she told the COPS she was with drew————————-4 years prior.

  254. Lavonda, I agree the the kids might not knowingly cover up Stacy’s murder, but I think DP could have given them a timeline and coached them on what to say, much as he did to Stacy when he killed Kathleen.
    IMHO.

  255. Lavanda and rescuepet, that’s what I thought.

    I don’t think they are covering up … I think they may have been told something by Drew that right now, they have no reason to question.

    And that is why Drew is afraid to have them testify in front of the GJ. Something they have accepted as true (as told to them by their dad) will come out.

    However, I did say that IF they KNEW that Drew had something to do with Stacy’s disappearance, and came forward with that “four years” from now, then YES, they should face charges.

    Hmm … wasn’t it yesterday that the judge was going to determine whether they would have to appear before the GJ?

    Does anyone know what happened?

  256. noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm Said:
    BB, really … why do you bring FSP into nearly every conversation on this forum?

    Here we were … just having a conversation about the case …

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    just an observation, NOWAY, but i believe the FSP site plays a major part in the public conviction of dp.

  257. First of all….They DO HAVE a Savio Family and they DO have a Cales family……..the only one holding them back from that is Drew Peterson.

    Tell me why Drew feels the need to keep those little ones from their ederly grandpa? Those kids went to visit him nearly every Sunday. What did the 80-something ederly man do to Drew? Why is he holding the children from him? There is no reason that he can’t bring them to see Grandpa and let the nurse bring them into the room for a few minutes. None whatsoever. Except of course…to Drew they are possessions….he has discounted every feeling that ANY child would have and has poo-poohed it as if this whole “scenario” is “boring”. Yeah right. Drew is not going to convince me that they are “bored” and not hurting. He is so overly possessive that he thinks he even has control over how and why his children FEEL the way they do. That is horrible!!

  258. So, say we were all to agree that Stacy had full discosure about what Drew did to Kathleen on the night she died. How will that figure into anything that happens in the future.

    1. If Stacy’s remains are found, then DP will most certainly be charged with her murder and part of his motive will be that Stacy knew and he needed to silence her since she wanted leave him. So…not good for Drew.

    2. If Stacy is found to be alive somewhere and Drew is charged with Kathleens murder, then Stacy will be investigated as well and charged with at least being an accessory (but I think she would probably have not be charged since she would plead bargain and tell all she knew). So…not good for Drew either.

    I’m not sure either of the two things will come to pass, especially ‘2’. Just putting stuff out there…

  259. Glen Selig is at it again trying to help Drew’s image. Now he is offering a $25,000 reward himself for her return. I posted the link in a previous post. You all might want to see read it.

  260. Why should Glen not be able to help Drew’s image, just as Sharon and the media have tried to help Stacy’s image? He is only a suspect and under the laws of this land innocent until proven guilty.

  261. Hmmm, that doesn’t do it for me. If he’s sure that Stacy will never be found what is he risking? no one will ever collect.

    Thanks for the linkage.

  262. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm Said:
    First of all….They DO HAVE a Savio Family and they DO have a Cales family……..the only one holding them back from that is Drew Peterson.
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    And as their father, he has every right in the world to do just that. Until he is proven unfit or it is ordered otherwise, he is their custodian. I don’t believe there has ever been a presedent set for visitation other than for grandparents.

  263. noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm Said:
    BB, would you agree that Drew Peterson plays a major part in the public conviction of Drew Peterson?

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    dp isnt publicly crucifying himself, is he?

  264. cfs, thanks for the link to the story about Drew offering a reward.

    Now … dumb question:

    What’s the difference between his money and the money already offered as a reward?

  265. I’m not interested in Drew’s image one way or another. What he does or doesn’t do is completey irrelevant to what led up to and happened on October 28th. Angels could fly out of his butt or he could build a shrine to Satan on his lawn…wouldn’t matter either way.

    It’s all just entertainment for the masses.

  266. Kimmer, didn’t say Glen shouldn’t do this. That’s what Drew hired him for. This is just the latest thing that’s been published and I thought you all might not know about it yet. If you don’t care, that’s okay too, but I found it interesting, even if a little late in coming. Maybe Drew should have done this months ago…….but I bet it was Glen idea at any rate. And yes…..the reward may not ever be collected as facsmiley said.

  267. Well, isn’t that interesting. DPeterson said on LKL that he’s, in fact, looking for Stacy through private investigators, but he doesn’t have the “resources” to do anything other than look for her through credit card use or computers. I take “resources” to mean money.

    Easy to put out a $25,000 reward for money that will never see the light of day.

    Guess it was just getting to quiet for DP/JB.

  268. I always look for something to come from the Peterson camp when it’s been quiet for a few days.

    Having a press release with a $25,000 reward gets them back in the news. Was wondering what it was going to take to do that, since the talking head shows have about been depleted and there’s nothing more for them to say.

  269. bolingbrook60440, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm Said:
    dp isnt publicly crucifying himself, is he?
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    Yes, pretty much, he is.

  270. “…‘gallows humor’ has served him well”

    Ummm – I meant HASN’T.

    And, dog, this page is loading slooooow.

  271. I wondered how long it would take DP to offer a reward. I often said he wanted people to believe that he really thought his wife was missing he should offer a reward (because he’d never have to pay it).

    Maybe he finally found a use for the money Stacy allegedly “took” from the safe. IMO

  272. noway406 – yup, there wouldn’t be much use for a public relations firm to “revamp” his image had he not destroyed it himself, circulating himself around on tv with his slams against pretty much everyone that he associated himself with during his lifetime, after which they turned sour on him.

    Yup, I think he pretty much painted himself into a pretty ugly corner.

  273. Noway, there is none that I can see. It’s just PR on Drew’s behalf, and a way for him to appear as though he’s trying to help get her back home…..since he says she ran off with another man. That $25,000 will probably never be in anyone’s pockets except Drew’s attorneys, and I really doubt any serious tips will come in on the email that Brodsky posted either. But, you never know for sure with this case.

  274. This guy can’t win…he FINALLY offers up a reward and explains his reasoning for not searching for her…and it’s still crucified.

  275. Ah, but he won’t pay out for her “dead” return, only her “safe” return. Gosh, I hate when that happens.

  276. kimmer78 – nonetheless, whatever my feelings are for him and what he’s now doing, that was a smart move on his part. Another “tactic” to keep him in the news, and present himself in a favorable light. Judging by your reaction, with all due respect, that is exactly what they want to hear, no?

  277. That’s why I’m wondering how the wording is for the other reward money, offered by the Cales family and FSP.

    Is it the safe return? Information leading to the arrest and conviction?

    I’ll look around and see if I can find anything.

    I don’t think I can multi-task. My computer is taking WAY too long to load each time I post.

    Hey … something finally got me to shut up!

  278. Do any of you guys really think that the spin, positive or negative will have an impact in determining the outcome should he be charged and the case go to trial? I keep saying it won’t matter, but maybe there’s something I don’t understand.

    I just think of OJ, who was so SO reviled and yet he was acquitted.

  279. Oh, and by the way, when there was an earlier discussion about his FOID card, I looked up the application form online. There are no questions on that form that would, as far as I know, keep DPeterson from holding a card. Except for question #5, and I’ll just leave it at that.

  280. noway406, you all need to read my post for what I said.
    I did not address it to anyone but the BASHERS! There are two main ones & you are not one of them.

    There are some genuinely caring people here who are just looking at all angles & then there are those that are hell bent on bashing & defaming the names of people.

  281. kimmer78, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm Said:
    This guy can’t win…he FINALLY offers up a reward and explains his reasoning for not searching for her…and it’s still crucified.
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    yep very true! And if stacy appeared alive and safe I’m sure it would not matter to many drew will still be guilty of anything and everything.

  282. Well, I see this blog has been quite active this afternoon.

    I just saw the $25k reward money article. Is it me, or do you find it strange that they would feel she is only worth this amount of money.

    If I were Drew and was able to write checks to my son for several HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I think I would be a bit smarter when creating a reward.

    This is all back-pedalling from the Abrams show when Joel and Drew were failing miserably to taint the character of the prime witness for the prosecution, Tom Morphey.

  283. John 8:7

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”

  284. Luvpups, I’m not going to scroll back to read what you said who knows how much earlier. At the moment we’re having a great conversation. Why stir up animosities and deflect it?

    Give peace a chance….

  285. After all that’s said and done, here, there, wherever, what we say and what we think doesn’t mean jack squat.

    It’s who does the best lawyering. Who comes up with the best slammo.

  286. noway406, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm Said:
    cfs, thanks for the link to the story about Drew offering a reward.

    Now … dumb question:

    What’s the difference between his money and the money already offered as a reward?

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    85 k now, thats the difference

  287. facsmiley, on April 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm Said:
    Luvpups, I’m not going to scroll back to read what you said who knows how much earlier. At the moment we’re having a great conversation. Why stir up animosities and deflect it?

    Give peace a chance….
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    I wasn’t trying to stir up anything, but had read a response to me from earlier.

    I am not on here 24/7, so just checked in for a few minutes.

    I am not bashing anyone, but there cannot be a civil conversation when everytime one gets started it is disrupted by those who are here solely to bash Stacy’s family & friends.

  288. lol luvpups who are the two main ones??

    I could count you as one of them only you bash anyone that doesn’t agree with your views.

  289. I am not bashing anyone, but there cannot be a civil conversation when everytime one gets started it is disrupted by those who are here solely to bash Stacy’s family & friends.
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    We were just having one…

    It goes both ways, you know.

  290. Rescue: It’s who does the best lawyering. Who comes up with the best slammo.

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    Well, that definitely leaves Brodsky out in the cold!

  291. You’re very welcome bolingbrook60440, but I’m just curious….how is it $85,000 now? I thought the “other ” reward was $35,000. Drew’s is $25,000. That’s $60,000. Is there another reward that I’m not aware of? Not being spiteful, just wondering.

  292. Kimmer, do you really think Stacy is alive and well? Which…by the way, let me pose that question to everyone. What is your hypothesis?
    Did Drew kill Stacy? If so, in your opinion, how and what do you think occured following on the three days he was gone?

  293. sorry, no way, was thinking of lisa’s reward, 35k for stacy from cales and 25k from dp now. sorry, 60k total

  294. Drew Peterson deserves every comment of disgust and anger that is being directed towards him.

    He took it upon himself to go on TV and totally destroy the character of his wife. When questioned about her sister, family or acquantances, he claimed they were just fabricating a story.

    When Mims wised up to the discrepancies in Drew’s stories/actions, he split and let it be known he does not trust Drew anymore. Drew immediately accuses him of just trying to make money. Then Joel goes on to try to justify that Mims was out to make money, indicating how much child support Mims supposedly owes.

    When Drew’s second wife came forward and indicated that Drew told her, “…he could kill me and make it look like an accident”, Drew responded, “I thought we were friends”.

    Drew has spent months on TV and in print ripping apart any person associated with his past that divulged negative information.

    The public has made up their mind long long time ago and the fault of that is placed squarely on the shoulders of Drew Peterson and Joel Brodsky. No one else could come close to deserving the blame.

    The media finds nothing wrong with the website dedicated to finding Stacy, findstacypeterson (dot) com.

    The public finds nothing wrong with Stacy’s website.

    Drew should have learned from Craig Stebic that the best thing is to stay in hiding and never show your face. Craig Stebic is not being talked about in blogs. Because he did not strut around acting like a fool and providing a true insight into his personality and character, such as Drew has been doing for 6 months.

  295. dk if drew killed stacy, on the surface yes it appears he did.
    but as many have said before what a mess this case is so many twists and turns.
    the 3days hasn’t even been verified as he was actually gone from my understanding so have no idea what was going on.
    hopefully LE was watching his moves if not shame on them.

  296. lavandadolce, yes I do believe he killed her. I have absolutely no idea how unless he choked her or did a karate chop to her throat, as some have speculated since he is a martial arts expert according to Ric Mims. It would have been a bloodless murder, if it was in fact a murder in their bedroom, from all accounts I’ve read. Who really knows if it was there, somewhere else, or anywhere at all? But yes, I believe in my heart and mind that he did kill her. As far where he went for three days, I have no idea, but it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he tended to some unfinished business regarding the disposal of Stacy’s body. These are only my opinions, and since you asked, I told you. However, I would love to be wrong, and have her found alive and safe somewhere, but my gut instinct says it won’t happen that way.

  297. 58apache, the media has other fish to fry, what matters is the guilt or innocence should be in the courtroom not on a web forum that spews hate towards anyone that doesnt hold the same opinion. four kids without their mother, thats whats important, lynch mob mentality.one mom dead another missing. why not let the law do its thing? you dont get that all the hate towards peterson is just more ammo when and if it comes to trial. dont you dare think for one minute these blogs are not going to come into play with jury selection, if it happens. and who is the finger going to be pointed at? sure isnt me. LOL

  298. rescueapet, on April 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm Said:
    Mr. Bollingbrook – you continue to associate my similar screen name with that of another. Are you, in fact, accusing me of being a double poster? That’s all I want to know. Answer the question, please.

    Are you saying I am a double poster?

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    i refuse to answer on the grounds that you make me sick! thank you and good day

  299. lots of good it’s done stebic to be quite. these guys are damned if they do and damned it they don’t.
    notice Lisa’s family does not have a forum to hang craig in the publics eyes. Also I have yet to see a vigil for lisa with a pinata with craigs face on it.
    maybe that’s why there isn’t soo much talk about craig. Lisa’s family isn’t using the internet to sway public opinion.
    I would beg to differ with you also 58apache some of the public has a problem with the circus that is called FSP, a missing person site.

  300. freedom, one simple answer. C L A S S. thats what lisa’s family shows. lisa’s family hasnt had a “fund raiser” where you see the main players pounding drinks in her name.

  301. CFS, I agree. I believe it was a bloodless one too…I believe he indeed carried the body out with Tom assisting (unknowingly)…and I believe he drove the suv and put her body somewhere. The next day he left on his motorcycle and I believe he drove it somewhere and got a truck/suv (rental or otherwise) and then retreived her body…drove away from bolingbrook and she is somewhere under concrete. (I just can’t get the concrete part from my thoughts since the very start when she went missing.)

    I honestly believe wherever she is…she will not surface unless an act of nature occurs and disrupts her “resting place”. He would have been “too smart” to be so dumb as to put her in water.

  302. i can agree with that scenario, one flick of the wrist from a black belt would/could silence anyone. what i dont belive is that a body only weighing 100lbs would cause that big a problem where you would need help disposing of. we speculate on whats possible, probable but in the end we dont know. the ‘what ifs” are still out there.

  303. True bolingbrook60440…the what if’s are all still there, and even if this case does go to trial, the REAL truth still may never come out. I don’t know anything about the stairs in Drew’s home, but getting down them with more than 100 pounds may be a little difficult, even for a strong man. I read on the emergency room report where Kathleen Savio was treated that Drew was (at that time) only 5’9″ and 168 pounds or so. That’s not very big, so I don’t know how strong he really is. His height and weight could have been written incorrectly on that report as well, I don’t know. Maybe he isn’t very strong…..again…who knows? Not me for sure!

  304. Boling, a hundred pound body weighs more when it is “dead weight” , eh? Or is that the same as 100 lb bag of feathers weighs the same as a 100lb bag of sand?

  305. Then again, maybe he needed Tom to “throw off the case” by making it appear she was in that blue tote…when in reality she may not have been.

  306. It makes me very angry to imagine what life is like for those kids having to put up with Drew on a daily basis. For Anthony and Lacy, I guess they can be manipulated and somewhat entertained. But I sure cannot see them getting any true nurturing when Drew must be totally consumed in his defense.

    As for Kris and Thom, my heart goes out to those boys. They are in a lose-lose situation. I often wonder how they must have to walk around on eggshells staying away from Drew. And then they can’t just be teens, they are also probably trying to keep Anthony and Lacy quiet and entertained so that their dad doesn’t blow up.

    And then Drew, as a father of 30 years and a cop of the same time, went berserk when Anthony went over to talk to Sharon and his Aunt Cassandra while out riding his bike. The poor kid just wanted to see two women he loves very much. Drew flies off the handle, yelling for Anthony to get in the house. Oh, Drew, that will definitely knock you off the list for FATHER OF THE YEAR. Trust me.

    And then he wants to go file a complaint with the police??? What a joke.

  307. John Morphey said his brother told him that he met Drew at a coffee shop near Peterson’s home on the night of Oct. 28. They talked awhile, then Peterson drove Tom Morphey to a nearby park and left him with a cell phone and instructions not to answer if it rang, his brother said. Peterson drove off. After awhile, the phone rang, and the name “Stacy” appeared on the caller ID, Morphey said.

    When Peterson returned, the two men reportedly went to his house and moved the container from the home to the back of Peterson’s 2005 GMC Yukon. John Morphey said his brother told him Peterson seemed very nervous as he drove him back to his home, a few minutes away in Bolingbrook.
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    See this doesn’t make sense in that I believe Drew set Tom up with that “incoming call from Stacy”. At that point, Drew didn’t even know Stacy ran off….remember? He didn’t find out, per Drew, until 9pm. So why would he give a cell phone to Tom and tell him to “not answer it” ? Why give him one at all??? And why did he drop him off in a park for a few mins? There is no doubt I believe Drew set Tom up…hence he may have set the tote up too. Probably a bunch of old junk in it…was warm to the touch due to a heater in the house near it. I think he carried her out of the house long before he met up with Tom.

  308. Now Apache, why would you say that about Drew? You know he has NEVER gotten angry…doesn’t get mad…

  309. Lavanda, you kinds lost me a little, but I think the reason Drew gave Tom the cell phone was so that Drew would have proof that he got a call from Stacy at 9:00 to tell police, or Cass, or whoever he thought needed to know that he had heard from her, and then supplied the conversation that took place. I don’t believe for one second that she ever called him. I think Drew gave Tom his (Drew’s) phone and thn drove away and called his own phone that Tom had with Stacy’s phone that had been “off” all day, according to Cass. That’s Drew’s alibi…Stacy called him and told him she was leaving with another man, when I actually believe, he made the call from Stacy’s phone to the phone that Tom Morphey had. I’m sure there has been a lot written on this, and I don’t think it was a set up on Tom’s behalf, but maybe that’s because I don’t understand how you mean he was set up. Drew was definitely using Tom as a fall guy to take the call that Drew made to Stacy’s phone, but I believe that was so he would have proof that there had been a call to him from Stacy. All of this is just my opinion, but I think this is a lot of other people’s opinions as well, from what I’ve read. Does this make sense??

  310. Lavanda, I do like your sense of humor. And I do honestly value your interest in the case and the time you have spent researching the disappearance of Stacy.

    I have had so many thoughts about the ‘movement’ of the container. You are correct that the whole scenario of Drew taking Tom to the park, or wherever, and telling him not to answer the phone is just incriminating. Of course, it’s Tom’s word against Drew.

    I have read the comments from some person at the bar that Drew owned and he/she said that Tom was intimidated by Drew. He/she said that Tom was always wondering what Drew thought of him(Tom).

    Based on Drew’s character, I believe he took every opportunity to take advantage of Tom. Tom is described as a good soul and Drew knew how to manipulate him. At the time of Stacy’s disappearance, I think Tom was Drew’s best choice in a willing accomplice who could be manipulated and believe what Drew told him.

    Because of this, it is no wonder to me that Tom is now in police protection. I thank God for that!

  311. lavandadolce, on April 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm Said:
    Boling, a hundred pound body weighs more when it is “dead weight” , eh? Or is that the same as 100 lb bag of feathers weighs the same as a 100lb bag of sand?

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    dead weight/live weight , feathers. sand, its all about balance.

  312. Regarding the rewards … all I can find is that the reward offered by FSP is noted as “information leading to Stacy Peterson” and Drew’s is “for the safe return of Stacy Peterson.”

    I don’t know if she is found “deceased” that Drew would not pay.

    I suppose it would depend on how “safe return” is defined.

    Safe from the elements?

  313. tom morphey a good soul? come on, thats more spin. first morphey is the creep of the year, now fsp is spinning what a great guy he is? oh god, help us all

  314. BB60440 … Again with the FSP … shame on you.

    I don’t know what you mean about “creep of the year” … he said he thought he helped Drew move Stacy’s body; Drew denies it happened.

    Maybe he was considered a creep because they initially thought he was a willing participant in her disappearance.

    I do admire him for speaking up against Drew. I am sure it’s not easy to do that when you’re talking about family. But Tom knew the right thing to do.

    Has he made it all up. Not IMO.

  315. Noway, somehow I don’t think “dead” and “safe” can relate to each other in any way, LOL. JMO, no offense.

  316. Well, Tom’s family have come forward to defend Tom. I don’t think they would appreciate you calling him a creep, for I sure don’t appreciate it.

    No person is coming forward to defend Drew’s character except his attorney. That speaks volumes.

  317. cfs7360, no offense taken.

    That’s why I asked “safe from the elements”? Not sure if there is a context in which “safe” and “dead” can relate.

  318. its a fact noway, what do you want me to say, ‘AN UNKNOWN SOURCE” its public information as soon as its on there. get off my back.; whats speaking up against dp has he done? your buddys “over there” are the ones that bashed and berated morphey, dug up his criminal past, arrests,etc. dont come crying to me if i remind you of that lol

  319. 58apache, on April 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm Said:
    Well, Tom’s family have come forward to defend Tom. I don’t think they would appreciate you calling him a creep, for I sure don’t appreciate it.

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    what word would you like me to use, apache? this is what i am talking about. as soon as the opinion differs from the gestapo, bam, attack. well you know the saying about “you and horse you rode in on”?

  320. Just when I thought it was safe to venture back, Bolingbrook60440’s obsession with the FSP forum raises its ugly head.

    I’ll check back later.

  321. cfs7360, on April 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm Said:
    Lavanda, you kinds lost me a little, but I think the reason Drew gave Tom the cell phone was so that Drew would have proof that he got a call from Stacy at 9:00 to tell police, or Cass, or whoever he thought needed to know that he had heard from her, and then supplied the conversation that took place. I don’t believe for one second that she ever called him. I think Drew gave Tom his (Drew’s) phone and thn drove away and called his own phone that Tom had with Stacy’s phone that had been “off” all day, according to Cass. That’s Drew’s alibi…Stacy called him and told him she was leaving with another man, when I actually believe, he made the call from Stacy’s phone to the phone that Tom Morphey had. I’m sure there has been a lot written on this, and I don’t think it was a set up on Tom’s behalf, but maybe that’s because I don’t understand how you mean he was set up. Drew was definitely using Tom as a fall guy to take the call that Drew made to Stacy’s phone, but I believe that was so he would have proof that there had been a call to him from Stacy. All of this is just my opinion, but I think this is a lot of other people’s opinions as well, from what I’ve read. Does this make sense??
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    LOL. I thought that was what I said? See…not easy to post when everyone was on their way out the door to their sporting event! sorry. But Yes….what you wrote is what I was trying to convey. EXCEPT…I don’t believe the call that was placed, that Tom did not pick up, was at 9pm? I thought that was around 7pm? The call Drew said he had with the conversation with Stacy was around 9pm. Am I correct? If I am…then why did Drew bother to give Tom a cell phone “to just hold” and not answer? Realistically, if what Drew is trying to get everyone to believe…he himself did not find out Stacy ran away until 9pm, so why bother giving Tom a cell phone “to just hold” at 7pm?

  322. BB, I just don’t understand why you lead off your comments with what’s been said at FSP.

    And I don’t understand how you can think that because X number of people posted about Tom that all of FSP has the same opinion.

    I knew nothing about Tom other than he had told a friend he thought he’d helped Drew move Stacy’s body. I guess the part about his criminal past and arrests skipped by me.

    And as far as his past goes, I believe Drew and Joel also brought up his past … to discredit him.

    It’s not hard to jump to judgment on someone … but as more is known, people have been known to change their opinions. That is the case with Tom Morphey.

  323. ok, noway, then why hasnt morphey been to the grand jury? fsp is who is putting the spin on all this crap and you know it, youre a big time poster there, arent you? morphey’s brother contributes their boat to the search, that makes tom morphey a good soul? ask his ex wife, if you can find her.

  324. BB, Tom Morphey HAS testified in front of the GJ. Some time ago as I understand it.

    I think my official title is not Big Time Poster … it’s Poster Extroidinaire.

    I don’t know anything about Tom’s soul or his brother’s boats. Nor do I see what Tom’s ex-wife has to do with this. She’s not dead if that’s what your implying. She’s not missing either.

  325. Apparently we have different sources. Mine says he has testified. Your says he has not.

    Mine says he is in protective custody. Perhaps I’m being lied to. I doubt it. But who knows.

    Have a nice evening … I’ll be back later.

  326. nothing estroidinare about you , NOWAY. just a legend in your own mind.
    you are confusing john morphey with tom morphey

  327. I was told that Tom Morphey had testified before the GJ and was then brought into protective custody.

    I didn’t even know there was a John when I was told this. And by told, I mean someone typed it on their computer and sent it to me.

    I’ll go check my sources. You’ve given me something to think about. Smiles, BB!

  328. dawn to dusk they blog….dedicated to the Brodsky regime….with links to threads at their fingertips…newspapers…FSP…Illinois law books, statutes, and cases never tried without a body…. onward they march to fail as a group to defend a murderer who cannot be defended.

  329. yes apache, its all a evil plot, isnt it?
    when have i defended dp? i say over and over, he is innocent till proven guilty, the same consideration i would give you, but youre brainwashed by “you know who”(lol) thats the only difference. the gestapo has trained you well, apache

  330. I don’t know what you mean about “creep of the year” … he said he thought he helped Drew move Stacy’s body; Drew denies it happened.
    *********************************************

    I’m not sure if you all recall, however, it was a neighbor that reported initially seeing Drew and “an unknown male” carting a blue barrel from the house. Drew said “that never happened”. Then BAM…a few days later it’s all over the news that Tom Morphey admitted to his friend it was he and Drew carrying that blue barrel/tote or whatever it was. Hence….another lie by Drew. I am pretty dang sure that TM would not be stupid enough to involve himself in something if it were not true. I believe he indeed helped carry something blue to Drew’s SUV. I believe everything he stated about the cell phone and told not to answer it. I believe this was ALL DREWS doing to set the path to the wrong direction in the case. Absolutely I believe this. It’s so fitting of him…and I’m not talking about his personality….I’m talking about the police mentality and of knowing how the investigation would proceed. Thus….throw the trail off at the get-go.

  331. I don’t know what you mean about “creep of the year” … he said he thought he helped Drew move Stacy’s body; Drew denies it happened.
    *********************************************

    I’m not sure if you all recall, however, it was a neighbor that reported initially seeing Drew and “an unknown male” carting a blue barrel from the house. Drew said “that never happened”. Then BAM…a few days later it’s all over the news that Tom Morphey admitted to his friend it was he and Drew carrying that blue barrel/tote or whatever it was. Hence….another lie by Drew. I am pretty dang sure that TM would not be stupid enough to involve himself in something if it were not true. I believe he indeed helped carry something blue to Drew’s SUV. I believe everything he stated about the cell phone and told not to answer it. I believe this was ALL DREWS doing to set the path to the wrong direction in the case. Absolutely I believe this. It’s so fitting of him…and I’m not talking about his personality….I’m talking about the police mentality and of knowing how the investigation would proceed. Thus….throw the trail off at the get-go. Send everyone down the wrong path.

  332. creep of the year, my words lavonda. as per the fsp gestapo. you were mighty vocal at that time, your memory shouldnt be that dimmed
    youre correct, there were first reports of a neighbor that said they saw a blue barrel being loaded, there were also blue shavings found on the suv. what happened to that evidence? morphey was according to his own brother, someone that would do anything for anyone, he held dp in highest regards, so who knows? why the suicide attempt after the fact? lots of nasty loose ends everywhere, i admit i am not smart enough to figure any of it out, but i know the rights of americans i FOUGHT for wont be stepped on.
    hearsay again, morphey told his friend that the container was warm to the touch, that was debunked. so what does that leave? third party testimony? that law better change and quick if that is gonna get used, RIGHT???? as far as the cell phone, the coppers should have the records by now and figured where it pinged from.

  333. Oh, this is just all fun and games. These blogs are just a bunch of words. Only about 12 people even read this stuff.

    Actually, truth be told, I’d invite you all over for dinner.

    I’m off to heat up the grill. Ribeye steaks, beer, salad and au gratin potatoes. Stop by if you are hungry.

  334. Oh, this is just all fun and games. These blogs are just a bunch of words. Only about 12 people even read this stuff.

    Actually, truth be told, I’d invite you all over for dinner.
    Oh, this is just all fun and games. These blogs are just a bunch of words. Only about 12 people even read this stuff.

    Actually, truth be told, I’d invite you all over for dinner.

    I’m off to heat up the grill. Ribeye steaks, beer, salad and au gratin potatoes. Stop by if you are hungry.
    I’m off to heat up the grill. Ribeye steaks, beer, salad and au gratin potatoes. Stop by if you are hungry.

  335. If you’re giong to say it three times then I guess I have to come!

    I’ll bring a marbled angel and devilsfood cake. 😉

  336. OK, there’s 12 of us for dinner at apaches house and just like here, enough to form a jury. It would be a hung jury if all we know is all we’d have to go on.

    And TY 60440 for defending Americas rights.

  337. Come on now, Sharon and Stacy best friends? I don’t believe that for one minute. I think that is Sharon’s story, but not probably factual.

    Sharon is the nosy neighbbor that we all dread having next door.

    Show me one picture of her and Stacy together? Show me one picture of Sharon with the children? Show me one picture of Sharon with the Peterson at any family function?

    Was Stacy friendly with Sharon, I’m sure she was…but they were far from BFF’s.

    Sharon is LOVING the attention she is getting. We have seen it in their own words….people in the neighborhood don’t even want to buy their crummy signs, bumper stickers, or t shirts.

  338. bolingbrook60440, on April 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm Said:
    wrong noway, tom morphey has not been before the grand jury, mims has
    **********************************’
    Tom Morphey’s friend went before the GJ. According to Brodsky…TM has not been asked due to memory lapses.

  339. I don’t know about that, LetTheTruth…I wouldn’t mind having Sharon next door to me. I think she is a caring person and is truly doing this for “stacy”. She was a great support to both Drew and Stacy with the kids…and Drew liked her too……….until Stacy went missing….else he wouldn’t have been taking his kids to her. Don’t ya think?

  340. I lived next door to someone for 5 years. It was a small town and I was unused to people just arriving at my back door, but she did. I didn’t know people but she invited me to all sort of things, sometimes basket and tupperware parties which I wasn’t really into, but it gave me an opportunity to meet people and socialize. I wasn’t always crazy about the way she raised her kids or how she’d pipe up with her opinion unasked. But when i had my son, she would watch him and when her son was suddenly diagnosed with juvenile diabetes and helicoptered off to a larger city, I went to her house and cleaned the kitchen. She was just always there doing what a neighbor is supposed to do and we spent a lot of time in each other’s kitchens. I honestly never thought we were close because we didn’t share alot of beliefs or background or tastes, which was kind of stupid on my part. When I moved away, she shed tears and said, “I’m losing my best friend”. I thought she was being overly sentimental, but now when I think about it she was probably as close to me as one of my sisters – and nope I don’t have any pictures of the two of us together.

    Maybe their relationship was kind of like that.

  341. facsmiley, its a pity you cant recognize a friend like that. its not about the pictures, where is anyone else talking about what a great friend sharon was? sounds like a free baby sitter that was used by stacy and dp.

  342. I think many are hanging their hats on the “Hearsay” Law being changed.

    I seriously doubt this will happen anytime soon. It might pass through the State level, but will have a hell of a time standing up before the Supreme Court.

    And keep in mind who is asking for the change, politicians. It’s not the ISP, it’s the Will County State’s Attorney, and a local state rep.

    Anytime you mix politics with a case, watch out, not good. The coroner that did Kathleen’s second autopsy is also running for office.

  343. bolingbrook60440, on April 30th, 2008 at 7:01 pm Said:
    facsmiley, its a pity you cant recognize a friend like that. its not about the pictures,

    ________________

    Well, exaclty. I’m saying that there don’t need to be photos of Stacy and Sharon together to prove that they had a close bond. I don’t think anyone can reasonably dispute that they were close. Even Drew has never said that.

  344. Close is objective. And I did say they were probably friendly, and acted like neighbors. But being like that doesnt make one a BFF. I have many neighbors I speak with, but wouldnt consider them my BFF’s either.

    It’s very telling to me that not ONE other neighbor is standing beside Sharon and her crew.

  345. #
    58apache, on April 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm Said:

    It makes me very angry to imagine what life is like for those kids having to put up with Drew on a daily basis. For Anthony and Lacy, I guess they can be manipulated and somewhat entertained. But I sure cannot see them getting any true nurturing when Drew must be totally consumed in his defense.

    As for Kris and Thom, my heart goes out to those boys. They are in a lose-lose situation. I often wonder how they must have to walk around on eggshells staying away from Drew. And then they can’t just be teens, they are also probably trying to keep Anthony and Lacy quiet and entertained so that their dad doesn’t blow up.

    And then Drew, as a father of 30 years and a cop of the same time, went berserk when Anthony went over to talk to Sharon and his Aunt Cassandra while out riding his bike. The poor kid just wanted to see two women he loves very much. Drew flies off the handle, yelling for Anthony to get in the house. Oh, Drew, that will definitely knock you off the list for FATHER OF THE YEAR. Trust me.

    And then he wants to go file a complaint with the police??? What a joke.
    _____

    what’s more of a joke is how you twist the truth to slam drew.
    You are incorrect in your slam, drew did not yell for anthony to come in and go beserzk as your dramtically posted.
    That was on of drews older boys and drew was not home at the time. He found about when he came home and his children informed him of what went on.
    So what this tells me is that you don’t pay attention to detail or just ignore it. It it because your story won’t sound as dramatic or that you are not concerned with the truth?
    Either way I take your posts and all their inaccuate details with a grain of salt.
    You stir the pot out here just as much as those you wish were silenced out here.
    have fun! and no I won’t ever come to a bbq at your house. I don’t like dramatic dishonest people.

  346. letthetruthbefree, thats got nothing to do with the supreme court. its a state ammendment they are trying to pass. i hope it does pass, i want to hear shori’s whole take on what stacy told him. dont forget it only applys to witnesses who are not able to testify for what ever reason, not just any hearsay.

  347. Yes I agree the big hope is the hearsay law. But first they have to prove drew harmed stacy for any hearsay to be allowed in court, that is after an arrest is made.

  348. morphey has memory lapse?
    If that’s the case then he is not a good witness. And I don’t see how the hearsay law would even apply to him, since drew has not harmed him and he is supposedly not missing but in protective custody.

    what is causing his memory lapse, isn’t he drug free?

  349. freedom08, i would attened for the good food and conversation. i agree 100%, dp never went berserk in public at anytime so far.

  350. Bolingbrook, don’t you think if it were to pass, that somebody isn’t going to file with the Supreme Court, I do? We can’t change the Constitution no matter how badly someone, or some people, have it out for an individual.

    It’s not going to be an easy sell.

  351. freedom, no, they dont have to prove dp harmed stacy to invoke that new law if it passes. that would allow hearsay testimony if the witness who made the statements was not available to testify in person because the defendant had a hand in that person’s absence.

  352. kick!!

    lol j/k

    I do wonder what the FBI has found in their investigation of how ISP handled Kathleen’s death.

    my understanding is that FBI is only involved in looking into how the state handled Kathleen’s death and not in the investigation of stacy’s disappearance.

    google time to verify!!

    yes apaches it’s soo easy to google a state statue you should try it sometime. it’s not something only brodsky’s paid bloggers can do.

    oh btw brodsky about that raise???

    ha ha

  353. ok maybe not from nov. 25th, fbi asked to help search.

    FBI to help in Stacy Peterson case

    Published: Nov. 25, 2007 at 10:46 AM
    Print story Email to a friend Font size:BOLINGBROOK, Ill., Nov. 25 (UPI) — Illinois investigators are calling in the FBI to help search for missing 23-year-old Stacy Peterson.

    The FBI will add more searchers and access to the “technical assistance of the U.S. Navy,” Will County States Attorney spokesman Charles Pelkie was quoted as saying in Sunday’s Chicago Tribune.
    http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/11/25/fbi_to_help_in_stacy_peterson_case/6207/

  354. Come on Brodsky, honestly. You have these guys on here from dawn to dark, and afterwards. Are you paying overtime or do they owe you something? I’m just saying…

  355. You can rest assured that the search fund for Stacy will never go dry. I will personally ensure that the search goes on as long as is necessary. Money for fuel/lodging/equipment will not be an issue as long as I’m around.

  356. oh found this when searching good article with lots of good info.
    I say for shame for shame ISP concerning Kathleen’s death.

    And I’m really puzzled about Stacy wanting to use Kathleen’s attorney. I’m not puzzled about her wanting to end her marriage and can’t say I blame her!!

    Coroner In Kathleen Savio Case Breaks His Silence

    CHICAGO (CBS) ― The original autopsy for Kathleen Savio declared her death an accident. Now investigators say it’s a homicide, and the original coroner is under fire.

    That coroner is speaking out Thursday, exclusively to CBS 2 West Suburban Bureau Chief Mike Puccinelli.

    And the attorney for Savio and missing woman Stacy Peterson is breaking his silence.

    Pat O’Neil has presided over more than 40,000 death investigations during his 16 years as Will County Coroner, but one investigation — Kathleen Savio’s — has been under constant scrutiny for the past four months.

    In 2004 six jurors determined that it was an accidental drowning. But in recent months after her body was exhumed two pathologists declared it homicide. Now a former coroner’s office employee has come forward to take on his old boss.

    “I think Coroner O’Neil has some blame that he has yet to take on,” said coroner candidate Charles Lyons.

    Lyons says the coroner didn’t advocate on behalf of the deceased.

    “I see that the family wasn’t listened to,” he said. “They stated that there were threats made against her. The suspicious death protocol was not followed.”

    Coroner O’Neil says Lyons is right that the protocol wasn’t followed, but he says it is law enforcement that decides whether to use that protocol.

    “The Will County Coroner’s Office asked the law enforcement agency that was in charge of the death investigation if the suspicious death protocol should be followed,” O’Neil said. “They said no.”

    He said they did not say why.

    O’Neil says his inquest was by the book and that Savio’s sister was allowed to testify that she believed Kathleen Savio was murdered by her ex-husband, Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson.

    But O’Neil says the coroner’s jury ruled it an accident even though they were given the option of declaring the manner of death undetermined.

    “They should have at the very least said it was undetermined,” he said. “That was our opinion at the Will County Coroner’s Office.”

    Lyons says the fact that the only Illinois State Police officer to testify at the inquest was never even at the death scene was a travesty of justice that he claims O’Neil shouldn’t have been overlooked.

    “He should have rescheduled the inquest,” Lyons said. “When you don’t have the appropriate people to testify he should have rescheduled the inquest.”

    O’Neil says Lyons is a disgruntled former employee who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    “We have no control over who the law enforcement agency is going to send to testify at a coroner’s inquest nor do we know what their role or qualifications are when they’re sent here prior to the inquest,” O’Neil said.

    O’Neil wasn’t the only player in the Savio case breaking his silence Thursday. Wheaton divorce lawyer Harry Smith also spoke out for the first time about representing Savio.

    “Kathy Peterson Savio thought that Drew was going to kill her,” Smith said.

    And Smith says, more than three years later, Stacy Peterson contacted him for the last time just two days before she disappeared.

    “She did contact me for information regarding a dissolution of marriage,” he said.

    The 23-year-old called him twice in the final days before she disappeared. Smith wouldn’t talk about what was said other than to say she wanted to talk about ending her marriage.

    (CBS 2, the Naperville Sun and the Aurora Beacon-News are news partners covering stories in the western suburbs. Send story tips to tips@cbs2chicago.com. (© MMVII, CBS Broadcasting, Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

    http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburbanbureau/kathleen.savio.peterson.2.671627.html

  357. Well I guess it’s easy to attack those that want to have an open discussion with statements about people working for Brodsky.

    I guess the same can be said for the FSP fans, all that money they are collecting is going somewhere, but not really where they are saying it’s going.

    So there is money on both sides. God Bless the U.S.A. The Land of Opportunity!!!!

  358. Are you talking about Brodsky? The intelligent man who actually said on this on Larry King:

    BRODSKY: That’s true. Also, there hasn’t been a prosecution for a murder in Illinois without a body since the 1850s. So I’m not really concerned about that.

    KING: Do you think the authorities are saying they must have a body?

    BRODSKY: They know the same case law that I do and they know that it’s been over 150 years in Illinois since there’s been a prosecution without a body.

    Someone should teach him how to Google or give whoever is working for him a cut in pay.

  359. Mark my word, when and if Drew is arrested Brodsky will NOT be the trial attorney.

    They will get the big guns out for the trial.

  360. BB, thanks for the links about JOHN Morphey testifying.

    What about TOM Morphey NOT YET testifying? LD said that he had not … according to Joel Brodsky, it was due to memory lapses.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22025190/

    BRODSKY: Well, you‘re talking about Tom Morphey, the stepbrother. Tom Morphey has, well, he hasn‘t been before the grand jury because the prosecutor – it‘s been reported the prosecutor‘s office has said they can‘t bring him before the grand jury because he has memory lapses about what has occurred.

    Well, BB, I’ll have to believe you, but the person who sent me the information saying the Tom had testified does not … even though I provided this same information.

  361. good to hear apache!!

    you should use some of your dough to back up your words accusing innocent American citizens of being paid by brodsky to blog. Again innocent Americans who voice their views in a manner you don’t like and attempt to control any chance you get. You throw accusations around towards myself and over and over again are you OBSESSED with brodsky?
    Can’t we have a conversation out here with out you OBSESSING over brodsky?

  362. one would hope if there’s a trail JB would not be lead counsel. something tells me his ego will get in the way of what’s the best defense.
    or he’s playing dummy for all until he walks in the court room.
    dk what his record is or anything about his practice.
    maybe someone could enlighten me.

  363. Guess I should have included the rest of Brodsky’s statement from the link above:

    [BRODSKY: Well, you‘re talking about Tom Morphey, the stepbrother. Tom Morphey has, well, he hasn‘t been before the grand jury because the prosecutor – it‘s been reported the prosecutor‘s office has said they can‘t bring him before the grand jury because he has memory lapses about what has occurred.]

    Tom Morphey has been hospitalized in psychiatric hospitals at least six times. He has had two or three prior suicide attempts prior to the last one. He has three DUI convictions. He is habitual alcoholic.

    ABRAMS: It seems to me Joel – I mean, everyone involved in this case, according to you and your client, Drew Peterson, all his ex-wives, they all had emotional problems. They had depression.

    Now you guys are, you know, undermining the credibility of a potential witness. I mean, it seems everyone, except for Drew, has these major emotional problems that lead to these memory lapses and invented stories, et cetera.

  364. Brodsky is a nobody in my mind. He is just a paid informant by the suspect of double murder to taint the jury pool. That is his lot in life. And everytime he is on TV he just proves what we already know: Drew is guilty and Joel Brodsky wants the world to make sure it is known.

  365. noway it’s very possible tom morphey did testify and the public is being given bogus info along with brodsky.
    who knows

    and ofcourse the defense is going to undermine the credibility of any potential witness. As is the prosecution when it comes to any potential witness that drew might come up with.

  366. I have wondered this also. If Drew is arrested, whom do the children go with. I can see the two older one’s possibly going to Kathleens family, but that is even questionable. As for the two younger ones, I would hope they would go with Steven Peterson.

    I can’t see the courts saying Drew has no say in that, when he isn’t convicted.

    As I write this, I’m thinking this has all been thought out, and everything is in place.

  367. freedom08, on April 30th, 2008 at 8:18 pm Said:

    noway it’s very possible tom morphey did testify and the public is being given bogus info along with brodsky.
    who knows

    and ofcourse the defense is going to undermine the credibility of any potential witness. As is the prosecution when it comes to any potential witness that drew might come up with.

    ************************************

    Excellent point!!!

  368. Speaking of the prosecution. I’m shocked, seriously, that nobody from the DA’s Office has reached out to Cass and Clan and given themselves a little advise along the way on how to conduct themselves etc.

    Don’t think that Brodsky is the only one watching websites. I can almost guarentee you the ISP and the DA’s are watching also.

  369. 58, Drew has not been named a suspect in Kathleens death.

    I would love to discuss this case with you, but the facts have to be just that, the facts.

  370. Let me assure you, that Drew will be named the suspect in the death of Kathleen Savio. It will be shown that he had a vested interest for her to be out of the picture. And, life in prison will be a great opportunity for him to sit back and reflect on his decision to murder her.

  371. But we do know that Drew has not officially been named a suspect in Kathleen’s death. That is fact.

  372. 58 –

    But you see there is a difference between you believing he will be named, and you saying he has been claimed.

    Just because you believe it will happen, doesn’t mean it is.

  373. here’s something from Nov. 27th on morphey from acandyrose, original link is archived.
    he may have testified already.

    “On Nov. 7, the relative [Drew Peterson’s step-brother, Thomas Morphey] was contacted outside his home by a Tribune reporter. He confirmed he was interviewed by authorities regarding Stacy Peterson’s disappearance but then declined further comment. Less than 30 seconds later, state police investigators in the relative’s driveway ordered the reporter to leave.”

    http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_witness_morphey.htm

  374. Official is a very interesting term in law enforcement. We highly speculate that the coroner of Will County, as well as Dr. Baden, BB Police Chief McGrury and the men and women of the BB police department know that Drew Peterson killed his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

    Since Drew had the motive of money to erase her from the picture, I think any jury will see that he is the sole person that could be responsible for her murder.

  375. now this is interesting, we just read how morphey’s brother said he was on the phone with tom and call 911. Here it said tom’s wife called? so what is it?

    One of Drew Peterson’s relatives overdosed on pills after helping the former Bolingbrook police sergeant load a large barrel into Peterson’s SUV the day Stacy Peterson vanished, a police source said Tuesday. Thomas Morphey, a step-brother, was hospitalized [10/30/2007] but survived what the source described as a suicide attempt. Morphey’s wife called police, saying her husband heard of the disappearance, became distraught and feared he might have unwittingly helped dispose of Drew Peterson’s wife’s body, the source said.”
    http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_witness_morphey.htm

  376. what if by chance dna forensic’s from kathleen’s death doesn’t match drews?

    dk I feel he was very involved in kathleen’s death and dk hopefully all stacy did was cover.

  377. I don’t know how much you follow cases, but Dr Baden’s days are LONG over with. He is a paid expert.

    He was eaten alive during the Phil Spector trial. He is not a good witness anymore, his days are over.

    If I were to be on a juror on a case that Baden was an expert, I would have to discard his testimony.

    But hey, that’s just me.

  378. Here’s the cbs report that addressed the issue of DPeterson getting mad in public, as related by SPeterson’s sister, after Anthony rode his bike over to the people in the driveway, and he then called the police, saying they “detained” his son.

    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/stacy.peterson.drew.2.698407.html

    Cassandra Cales accepted that challenge today.

    “I have seen him, personally, throw my sister across the room,” she said.

    And Cales says just last week the former police sergeant unleashed a profanity-laced tirade against her after she spoke with Stacy’s young son outside the home.

    “He was red and he was screaming,” Cales said. “If that’s not mad, I don’t know what is.”

  379. Freedom, I saw the candyrose item about Tom Morphey … if the date is accurate, it’s before the GJ convened on November 11.

  380. I don’t see baden being needed to testify since the second offical report is pretty much the same as baden’s.

  381. Rescue, I remember seeing that report.

    Personally I would think if he did indeed do that, they would have called the police on him, just to make a report.

    See again, this is another reason I have so much trouble with Cassandra. Statements like, “I have personally seen him throw my sister across the room,” “He shot at her through the floor when she went to get him something to drink,” “She told me if anything happens to me, he did it”

    Those statements are all extremely STRONG, and if true, I would have hoped that after a couple tries of getting ahold of Stacy on that Sunday with no success, she would have started much earlier in contacting authorities.

    Supposedly she was with Pam that day, Pam is a smart women. I would hope that Pam would have helped her in how to go about filing a report etc.

  382. Freedom, it is possible that both of them called 911.

    “I was on the phone that night when my brother swallowed those pills,” he said. “He told me, ‘That’s it, I’m done. I’m taking a bunch of pills. [Peterson] is going to get me anyway.’

    “He said that he thought he may have inadvertently helped dispose of Stacy’s body,” John Morphey said. “I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.”

    John Morphey said he quickly hung up the phone and called 911, and paramedics took his brother to a hospital for treatment.

    http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:776543542&start=9

  383. Here’s the report from when it was first reported.

    snip

    Peterson said he learned of the matter from a neighbor after picking up another of his sons from church early Sunday afternoon.

    “They had my 4-year-old, Anthony, surrounded in Sharon’s driveway, taking his picture,” Peterson said.

    “He’s a little guy. He’s 4, and he’s surrounded by them. Kris (his older half-brother) is yelling at him to get in the house.”

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/882590,4_1_JO08_PETERSON_S1.article

  384. The legal panel on Greta’s OTR show just made mincemeat out of Brodsky for this $25,000 fiasco.

    It was a shining moment.

  385. lol on greta, he should be questioned hard about this reward.

    but if he seriously wants to put up a reward to get info he would put up $100k. or that is what I would do.
    this is like a political move and he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

  386. Once again Drew is bashed, I do not know why no matter what he does its wrong ! Who knows something could come out of this, one never knows its totally possible

  387. Remember when Ric M was the enemy on FSP, then he went to that first lame fundraiser and dropped some money, he was then their hero, but he again now is the enemy.

    What money does to people is extremely sad and funny.

  388. from the article I linked above
    opps cass isn’t this anger?

    While he had the cops there, Peterson also complained of Cales peeling out as she drove past his house Saturday night and said she left about 20 yards of tire tracks behind her.

    what a butthead comment for drew to make.

    “No, that means I don’t want those raggedy ribbons on my trees,” he said. “I take good care of my house.”

  389. I had an interesting thought about Drew and new $25,000 reward. This kind of leaves him wide open for more questions that he’s not going to answer.

    How can he ask for help finding his wife if he’s not willing to provide some answers for that timeline on the day she disappeared?

  390. I wonder if when you offer a reward, like Drew has just done, if it has to be officially in some sort of escrow or if there is official paper work that is to be filed when doing so.

    I wonder how anyone could go about finding out if this reward is legitimately held somewhere. Or can he just say I am offering $25,000 and without having the documentation to back it up?

    I am also curious, since we know he recently transferred a large sum of money to his son, why the offer is so low?

    Could it be because if in fact that money has to be officially filed and accounted for, it would then be tied up and perhaps he needs reserves in case there is an arrest for bond or legal fees?

  391. I have yet one more nagging question.

    Does anyone know if the DefenDrew PayPal donation website was a properly set up charity?

    Does anyone know the tax number or how to check it out?

    Didn’t Brodsky say they got over a million hits? Can you imagine what kind of money they could have possibly raked in? He did state that they accomplished their goal, so maybe it was a LOT of money.

    I am not asking for myself because I didn’t donate, but I am asking on behalf of those that did. I realize April 15 has come and gone, but still, this question begs an answer.

  392. I seriously doubt the defenddrew fund was touted to MANY businesses as a NOT FOR PROFIT!!! FSP was…by those that solicited donations. The DP fund did not say it filed paperwork at a certain time, only to have researchers find out that claim was false. The DP fund did not have a forum attached to it that made SP look like a cash cow.

    What if DP put up $1 TRILLION dollars? You people that want to be the judge, jury and excecutioner would still not be happy. Regardless of your opinion on this case, any chance of a fair trial has pretty much been blown out the window.

  393. quoting lavanda:
    1) I have not seen where Sharon announced that the children are home alone and I cannot imagine it being posted as an announcement. Was it misinterpreted or just gossip run amuck?

    ———
    perhaps you cannot imagine it lavanda, however sharon did post that to fsp. i’ve read it, several have read it, the one who posted here must have read it — whether or not you saw it is beside the point. no it was not misinterpreted and no it was not just gossip run amuck. i can understand why perhaps you would like to think it is not true. unfortunately tho, it is. and it did create much discussion there afterward.

  394. (quoting 58apache):
    “Drew Peterson deserves every comment of disgust and anger that is being directed towards him.”

    (quoting 58apache):
    “The media finds nothing wrong with the website dedicated to finding Stacy, findstacypeterson (dot) com.

    The public finds nothing wrong with Stacy’s website.”

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    Regarding the first quote of yours above, 58apache, I agree. The public learned about this case from what has been reported in the media, and from what Drew continues to do and say. Which continues to be reported in the media. IMO as well, he deserves the comments being directed toward him.

    The media and the public do not seem to be aware of what is actually going on at the FSP forum, for one reason the good majority of them are not part of the forum. IMO that’s why they find nothing wrong with it.

    Many of us who have been part of the forum, who have seen firsthand what is going on there, experienced and witnessed actions being taken by them, have tried bringing this reality to the attention of the media and the public. Once the media and the public actually understands what is going on and has been going on at the fsp forum — then it will be clear to the media and public — that the fsp forum also deserves every comment of disgust and anger that is being directed towards them. IMO

  395. i think that TAILGATORS should know how much WE HATE the kids being alone when he parties there
    I CAN”T believe JB and SC were partying with them Friday night and saying to girls hang out with us you will be a star . all three are married . Does Steve’C wife like him picking up chicks with Drew ?
    Does Mrs Broadsky allow him to date ??
    What does it take “people to picket tailgaters ? ” OK !!!!!!

    Let them know how you all feel about the kids being left alone while DREW< STEVE AND JB party
    and drink for 5 hours this is sharons quote on fsp on march 12th which she denied on NG

  396. Its not against the law for Drew to date, its his right to do as he sees fit. People may not like it, but there it is. As far as the kids being home alone. There are two teenagers there and by state law they can babysit the younger ones. Once again people may not like it, but it is okay. Does sharon have nothing better to do than watch that house constantly? It has to be tiring to snoop that much. Tailgators must not have a problem with Drews group being there, it is a public place and picketing would serve no purpose. If people like it or not Drew has a right to go out and relax or shop or whatever he needs to do. Those rights cannot be taken away.

  397. Agree, whitewitch, until arrested/indicted/convicted, he has every right you and I do.

    About the scene with Anthony, and the adults surrounding him in Sharons driveway… weren’t they taking pictures of him?

    In general, this could be handled better. Instead of a Sharonshrine, couldn’t there be something done to honor and remember Stacy? Plant a tree in a public park maybe?

    Come on. They are discussing crazy stuff like selling blue and yellow carnations to represent Stacys tattoo, fgs. And a block party at Sharons. Why not just get a frikken circus there, it has become such. All they need are the clown wigs.

  398. kimmer78, on April 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm Said:
    I seriously doubt the defenddrew fund was touted to MANY businesses as a NOT FOR PROFIT!!! FSP was…by those that solicited donations. The DP fund did not say it filed paperwork at a certain time, only to have researchers find out that claim was false. The DP fund did not have a forum attached to it that made SP look like a cash cow.

    What if DP put up $1 TRILLION dollars? You people that want to be the judge, jury and excecutioner would still not be happy. Regardless of your opinion on this case, any chance of a fair trial has pretty much been blown out the window.

    You seriously doubt, but don’t for a fact, correct? They got over a million hits? Could have a lot of corporations and individivuals. Wonder what it matters whether or not DefendDrew said it filed paper work. They SHOULD have filed it, they were asking for contirbutions from the public.

    You are right, DefendDrew did not have a forum attached to to it, but I don’t how that relates to being a legally formed charity, especialy since this was set up by, or with Brodsky’s knowledge, an attorney, last I checked.

    Either you are set up properly or you are not. What you have attached to it does not matter. Just like driving a car, you need to a license operate that vehicle, whether its a car or an ice cream truck, still need a license.

    Yes, I agree, no matter what Drew does, people will judge him. And that is the beauty, because it is certainly everyone’s right.

    I still think some people would want to know about DefendDrew. I truly hope someone can look into it. If not, I will try to devote some time to it later.

  399. A public forum is NOT a place for anyone to indicate that children are home alone. Doesn’t matter if the teens are old enough to babysit. It is preposterous to publicly post that ANY child is home alone. What are people thinking???????

  400. In the best interest of finding Stacy Peterson, someone needs to shut that forum down. There is no use and/or purpose for it. If people want to gather and chat they can find many other places to do such and other sites in which multiple conversations are held. It should not be reflected to the public that it is maintained by the family. It is getting way out of hand.

    I already received a threatning email this morning full of histrionics and blatant threats and it was directly from one of the highest posters at FSP. Do they not realize that this is a poor reflection for the cause? Keep the website going, continue with the searches, welcome other professional searchers, carry on with the fundraising and adhere to publicly displaying what the funds are being utilized for…..and for heaven’s sakes…>GET RID OF a website that is announcing children are home alone!!!

    That “forum” is starting to create and cause people to do things that otherwise they would not do. I know for sure if that forum was not there….would someone have called the newspaper and asked them to put a bulletin in place to announce that DP’s kids were home alone? I think not! SO if this is true, then why was it placed in a public forum? It’s not that much different folks.

    It’s way out of hand.

  401. so any news today?

    It’s may 1st and sadly it appears that Sandra’s prediction did not come true.
    hopefully this case will have some resolution sooon before something even more tragic happens.
    I have a bad feeling tooo many people are displaying unstable emotions concerning drew and I really wonder how long these folks can hold back before they take matters in their own hands.

  402. chateauofdoubt, on April 30th, 2008 at 9:47 pm Said:
    I wonder if when you offer a reward, like Drew has just done, if it has to be officially in some sort of escrow or if there is official paper work that is to be filed when doing so.

    I wonder how anyone could go about finding out if this reward is legitimately held somewhere. Or can he just say I am offering $25,000 and without having the documentation to back it up?

    I am also curious, since we know he recently transferred a large sum of money to his son, why the offer is so low?

    Could it be because if in fact that money has to be officially filed and accounted for, it would then be tied up and perhaps he needs reserves in case there is an arrest for bond or legal fees?

    i wonder the same exact thing with fsp. how come their reward is so low? with all the hitting the donate button & stacy merchandise (which seems to becoming quite a business) that they dont feel stacy is worth a little more reward.

  403. I’m surprised FSP hasn’t deleted this post sharon made about the kids being home or have they and someone copied this?

  404. Nope, it’s still there. Remember it was Sharon that posted it, they won’t remove something she wrote.

  405. well that’s a good thing, leave it there for all to see how she cares more about sticking it to drew then the safety of stacy’s children.

  406. I can’t wait to see Sharon on a witness stand, if Drew is arrested and tried.

    Sharon will get eaten alive by a good defense attorney, it will be priceless to watch.

  407. whatcha want to bet that those posts will disappear now? perhaps by an oopsy “gliche” in the database or something. amazing that untold numbers of cat pics don’t ever seem to be accidentally deleted.

  408. sharons quote is still there. noone is allowed to say how bad it is. they don’t get it . i think she probably was a good friend to sp & the kids. but i think she has let her feelings for dp take over. & that in turn hurts the kids & noone will ever convince me that it doesnt hurt them. & sure dp probably hurt them 1st but this shouldnt be tit for tat with the kids. in a way i wish i could sit down with sharon and explain my view maybe she would listen to someone heck if i know. after she put the posters on her windows i went and read some on loss of parent in childhood nowhere do they suggest plastering the parents pic. & i do mean plastering not hanging on one wall in the living room , in a picture album , bedside table ect. but you dont put it in there face 24/7. you dont announce when when you think children are being left home alone.

  409. just like all the posts that slammed and bashed tom morphey magically disappeared. wouldn’t do to have all those posts laying around now that they are proclaiming tom and family as their current hero of the week.

  410. one of the few things i agree on with lavonda is fsp needs to be shut down.

    just on sharons child home alert notice to total strangers all over the internet is basis alone.

  411. theoriginalsami, on May 1st, 2008 at 8:31 am Said:
    change that

    there r 2 things i agree w/lavonda on.

    1. fsp needs to be shut down

    2. someone needs to reign “JIC” in

    IMO

    First off, I am NOT a member of FSP, as some of you are, were, and don’t admit you are. However, I do go there to get information on this case from time to time, and there actually are a lot of very informative items and posts on there. I truly don’t think the site needs to be completely shut down because of this, BUT, I do think that the forum format should be drastically changed, as well as the rules for posting. As some of you have stated, it does come across as a social club, even to the people who just VISIT there, rather than a missing person site. There are some very cruel, disgusting, hateful, insenstive, and ridiculously silly posts on there, and a tremenedous amount of nonpertinent information floating around. If they would just keep it about finding Stacy instead of most member’s personal lives, love for cats, and hate for Drew, then it would be a much better place to visit, as well a becoming a member of. I agree that they should start another forum for their social needs and leave it off of FSP. What does it serve in the cause for finding Stacy? None that I can see. Just my opinion, and I’m sure there are many of you who won’t agree, but that’s okay too. I respect that.

  412. i totally agree with you cfs! there is a lot of good info at the fsp forum, nothing wrong with allowing it to remain an info site only, just shutting down the actual posting area. IMO, among the first of what they need to stop doing is begging visitors to their forum to donate. they see nothing wrong with slamming and bashing even the visitors, IF those visitors donate before backing off and licking their wounds.

  413. why do they need a donate button anymore or even future fundraisers??
    58apaches has stated on here numerous time’s that he/she will keep the money flowing to search for stacy as long as it’s needed.
    or is that all just bs 58??

  414. Myst1 said: IMO, among the first of what they need to stop doing is begging visitors to their forum to donate.
    _____________
    I am a member of FSP, and probably will take some flack for this, but it is my opinion.

    I didn’t always feel this way. This is the first time I’ve been on a forum … and quite honestly some of the time, I was following like a lemming. Live and learn.

    However, I agree wholeheartedly with the donate issue. I was happy to see that there were not multiple posts to do so this last week. Personally, I found it so irritating to read post after post about donating, that it completely turned me off from doing so. I’m sure the same was true for other POTENTIAL donors.

    I don’t agree with shutting down the posting area only because it is a place for information to get out there. I do think there needs to be a limit on what is posted.

    The psychics need a place to put their stuff. And I think feedback ON THE CASE is important.

    I do wish we were able to explore other avenues, even if they may not portray Stacy in a positive light.

    I do believe Drew is guilty. Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but I am still able to express my opinion.

    I also understand that many of the people on FSP are friends of Stacy’s … and by that I mean they knew her personally. If this were my friend, I probably would not be able to hold back on what I called the suspect.

    As someone removed from the situation, I think it detracts from the case to continue to call Drew Peterson @#($%.

    IMO very few people could have seen Drew Peterson on television (Today, LKL to name a few) and thought he was a standup guy.

    I’m not posting and running … exactly. I have a request from a VPP (very persistent person) to go outside and play. Be back soon.

  415. geez, now the gestapo is going after the poor guy who lives on the other side of dp. now thats what really gets me going. this guy had the misfortune of living next to dp, had the NERVE to say he didnt want the “prayer” vigil they held that turned into a big media event for sharon and the goons. read some of the posts for yourself and tell me how sick they have gotten? they should quit shooting off their mouths and go ahead and buy the guys house and let him get out of nightmare on pheastant chase court.

  416. The bottom line is:

    1. FSP doesn’t care what a handful of disgruntled ex-members think about the site.

    2. The general public has no issues with the site or the organization.

    3. I don’t give a rat’s ass about what they talk about there, who they boot off or how they handle donations.

  417. BB, regarding the house next to Drew Peterson …

    And it would be this kind of post that I think should not be allowed.

    Although I suppose some would call it “free advertising,” I just find it distasteful.

    But you are talking about it here (as am I) … and so, are we no better than FSP? Just wondering.

  418. well said noway! and i honestly hope for your sake that by sharing your honest opinion here, there will not be a backlash from them.

    if they *could* only limit the posting in a fair way to all. we’ve seen however, that their idea of limiting posts is very unfair and unbalanced, almost at a whim, good posts go poof, while the harmful and silly posts continue adnauseum.

    IMO, their psychic threads are among the best part of that forum. would hate to see that area shut down. but nearly the rest of it? i wouldn’t mind in the slightest. for info now, i go to acandyrose.com — she has, by far, the best info site on stacy’s case.

    had to chuckle at your VPP (very persistent person)….love that! at the moment, i have a VPD (very persistent doxie), who is standing here looking at me expectantly with his squeaky ball in mouth. off we go to play! ;D be back soon as well.

  419. facsmiley, on May 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am Said:
    The bottom line is:

    1. FSP doesn’t care what a handful of disgruntled ex-members think about the site.

    2. The general public has no issues with the site or the organization.

    3. I don’t give a rat’s ass about what they talk about there, who they boot off or how they handle donations.

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    is that a quote from fsp? are u speaking on behalf of them when u say that fsp doesnt care?

    hmm a handful? far from a handful. if anyone truely cared about that girl they’d clean up their act pronto.

  420. noway406, on May 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am Said:
    BB, regarding the house next to Drew Peterson …

    But you are talking about it here (as am I) … and so, are we no better than FSP? Just wondering.

    ________________________________________

    thats right, talking about it, not posting it and bashing the guy. its a big difference. wait and see the hate mail this guys starts getting now from the gestapo.

  421. LD I hate to hear that this happened to you. FSP used and abused you and seems like that is their motis operandis.
    What many seem to be overlooking is that this behavior from a missing persons site, regardless if it’s not all on the site, makes many wonder what truly is going on. The antics of that site have caused me personally to see something way more than just bad behavior on a message board.
    They make me question every thing they are about and it sure seems like behind the curtian something is really rotten even as far as Stacy not being missing.
    How could a person from CA have soo much pull on FSP really gets the mind wondering.
    rumors that stacy is in CA and julie is the contact sound pretty reasonable that this could be true.
    They are soo hurting the search for stacy and one day the truth will come out and I think jaws will drop.
    There is soo much information concerning this case that if your only source is FSP you will miss and that’s to ensure you don’t question anything that doesn’t fall in line with drew is guilty.
    seriously there is a chance drew did not kill stacy, it might be a slim chance but does her family really want to put their eggs in one basket and the bottom fall out of the basket. Then what?? Stacy is still missing?

  422. Nobody says they should have to shut down FSP. For heavens sakes. Keep the website and keep the news articles coordinated. Keep the search efforts posted. Just get rid of the horrible bashing that goes on regarding anybody and everybody. This includes all the terrible things said about Stephen Peterson, the posting of personal information, the outright slanderous photo’s of innocent people who happen to be sitting in a bar stool across from Drew Peterson, the blatant lies told about one member to another member and all the rest of the ridiculous crap that has NOTHING TO DO with finding Stacy Peterson. For goodness sakes. I see CHILDREN who behave better online than what some of those are doing.

    Also, it’s a real shame that a host of people are too intimidated and afraid to speak up for what is right…for fear they will be banned and not welcomed to come on the searches. This is unreal. Where is the professionalism? Courtesy? Kindness?

  423. how much money has actually gone to any real search teams?

    does anyone know this?

    how many real search teams have been asked to help & have done so?

  424. I say good let FSP go off on this neighbor maybe they will learn a lesson. they can’t justify their actions by screaming Drew and someone just might slap a lawsuit on them for their actions.
    are they trying to outdo drew in the ignorance department or what. they aren’t cute at all, it’s prettysicknening.
    And no I don’t consider talking about the antics of a missing person site that has pleaded to the public for support being as bad as them.
    they actually are taunting anyone or business they can like out of control vigilantes.
    mark my words these out of control freaks will cause someone some harm and they think they are better than DP, I’d say they stand shoulder to shoulder with dp as far as tatics and morals.
    and oh please FSP hate me and hate me good!!

  425. most real search teams donate their time and money and do not charge even for hotel arrangements.
    so I have no idea why they are not utilizing the pros and if they did charge 58apache will pay anyway!!

  426. Bottom line about the FSP site. Admin is a friend of Cassandra’s. Cassandra reads, and posts on the site, as does Sharon and Roy.

    It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see they dont give a rat about anyone, other than themselves.

    All, and I mean ALL of their behavior is terrible, and extremely child like.

    And I have to mention, this didn’t just start after the fundraiser, it was going on long before.

    I’m sure Drew’s neighbor that is selling his home is happier having Drew as a neighbor than he is having Sharon as a neighbor.

    And I’m sorry anyone that would give JIC any of their personal information is foolish. Early on she was a troublemaker, and the writing was on the wall way back then even.

  427. so they really arent using real search teams? just wondering cause with the hudreds of search teams in the country & all the publicity u’d think they wouldnt need julie to fly in theyd be full up with searchers or help. i really do want to know.

  428. another thing that peaked me. did they really bring drew buster baseball bats to the fundraiser? or was that a rumor?

    shows very little empathy to the kids if thats true. not to mention can be construed as a definate threat.

  429. i wonder why equa-search didnt come back. i think they might have went on to help those that appreciate it?

  430. what are the reasons the loved ones of a missing woman would not want the best professional searchers looking for their loved ones? You don’t get much better than equa-search and they took their ball and went home.

    1. stacy is not really missing

    2. ignorance

    3. roy’s ego

    anyother ideas as to why?

  431. The interesting thing about Texas Equ is as of a couple weeks ago, Stacy wasnt even listed on their homepage.

    I think ego’s got in the way, and Tim decided to go where his help is truly needed.

    Remember the GPS’s, begging for those. Then a committee member saying they were purchased, but nobody else ever knew that, including those Search Coor. that were begging for them. Then we had the ATV’s, but they had to clarify that, they didn’t want the people with the ATV’s, just the ATV’s themselves.

    Something stinks with this whole thing, and I don’t think it’s all Drew.

    I also worry about Drew’s personal safety. These are fanatics, and I truly believe one day someone is going to try to do something to him out of frustration.

  432. can u just imagine being asked to bring ur ATV but then told that “uh but we don’t want u to use it, just us amateurs”. how obscene is that?

  433. t.o.sami, LD was at the fundraiser, and she says the bats were there. I was not there, so I cannot verify. I do believe Lavanda … and only “know” her from her forum, this forum and FSP,

    It does seem odd that you would bring baseball bats to a fundraiser for a missing woman who is believed to be a victim of abuse.

    Okay … “odd” was being politically correct.

    It seems insane. IMO

  434. gps? did they get them or was that another give us a gps but take a hike, we don’t want u bit?

  435. I was at the fundraiser.
    Out of place but normal for FSP:
    Inflatable Drewbuster bats.
    Drewbuster posters,
    Drew on a pinata, for silent auction.

    This was an event to raise money for upcoming searches.

    As far as the GPS units, they asked to borrow some, then asked to have donations sent to a luxury fund. Then it was said on kimmers forum that they were ordered. So, who knows.

    GPS units can be useful for searches but are not exactly necessary.
    Let’s say something is found… it cannot be touched or moved, so the area is marked with a ribbon tied to a branch etc and then the GPS is noted, so that LE can come and have a look.

  436. no way they brought bats to a fundraisers. this group if more lunatic then I thought. yes they are very dangerous and this goes back to the very first vigil/walk when they had a pinata with drews picture on it. was the forum up and running then?
    So it tells me that the behind the scenes of FSP is the major problem.
    And I’m wondering how violent these people really are?
    good point noway I guess abuse is ok in their book as long as they are the ones dishing it out.
    I so question anything that comes out of that group right down to all of cassandra’s statement to the press. She ultimately is responsible for that site and the search for her sister and IMO she has not one bit of credibility.

  437. facsmiley, on May 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am Said:
    The bottom line is:

    1. FSP doesn’t care what a handful of disgruntled ex-members think about the site.

    2. The general public has no issues with the site or the organization.

    3. I don’t give a rat’s ass about what they talk about there, who they boot off or how they handle donations.
    ________________

    No, the real bottom line is that not everyone agrees with the kool aid you are serving.

    As for the profit question…I do believe that anyone could set up a site and ask for money and use it for whatever purpose they deemed necesssary. In this particular case, FSP solictited under the guise that they were not-profit.

  438. Fuzzbottom said they were ordered. God knows if they were, or weren’t.

    So many lies, and so few truths out of that bunch.

    And your right, Cassandra is responsible for the site, and for everything related to her sister.

    As I have said before, I think Pam Bosco is a smart business women, and she knows how to speak in public. I could almost guarentee you she has advised Cassandra along the way, and Cass has decided to not take the advice.

  439. Could someone explain this post to me, seriously, I dont have a clue what this person is trying to say?

    Mithridates
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    « Reply #19 on: April 27, 2008, 10:18:14 PM » Quote

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    Katadesmoi, binding spells… thats what I’ve turned to. Aside from the fact that it allows one to vent one’s true hatred and loathing for Drew in creative, and poetic, language (only in Κοινὴ Ἑλληνική, of course, or possibly Κοπτική γλώσσα), its also very atmospheric. I daresay years from now someone will dig up one of my wax or lead tablets and wonder who this accursed Drew Peterson is, and what vile crimes he committed to be so hated. 😀

  440. as for fsp not caring what people think as facsmiley says then they should stop asking people for money.

    once u put yourself out to ask for money from the public then u had better be ready & willing to answer questions or take the heat.

  441. No, the real bottom line is that not everyone agrees with the kool aid you are serving.
    ———-
    This is what’s nutsy about the obsession with FSP. I just stated that I have no interest in what goes on with the site whatsoever, and you address me as if I am a member. That’s just….kind of crazy-sounding.

  442. As for my koolaid- I’m not trying to force feed anyone anything here…I’ve stated fact and then put my opinion of it out there. I’ve been accused of not caring about SP and not wanting her found, by a committee member because I questioned the sale of the bumper stickers at a government office. Ye

    Admin has stated that he is the OWNER of that site and will continue to allow the posting of whatever he deems fit.

    Why won’t the committe step in? Cass, Kerry, Carol, Sharon or anyone could tell him no, enough is enough. But why hasn’t it been done? What does Admin know?

  443. Fac –

    In all due respect, can you tell me how many active posters there are on FSP? I mean those that post everyday?

    The numbers seem to be declining, and more people (people that were actually part of the mission) are leaving.

    The numbers should be growing, not declining. Chicago is an extremely large area, and so few people care anymore….there has to be a reason for that..

  444. if cassandra was smart & i definately have my doubts, she would shut Admin down or at least tell him to have fun with his cat litter by himself but no money will be collected on that site & the family should completely take up stakes.
    let him own the site but the family should walk away from it, make their own & start showing some class for the 1st time in this entire case.

  445. letthetruthbefree, on May 1st, 2008 at 11:59 am Said:
    Fac –

    In all due respect, can you tell me how many active posters there are on FSP? I mean those that post everyday?
    —–

    You’ve confused me with someone who cares about or has any connection to that web site.

  446. letthetruthbefree, just go there and scroll all the way down, its like 30 registered users and 30 3 guests

  447. letthetruthbefree, I think a lot of people locally and across the country are still interested in this case and still care, but the regular, diehard perpetual posters on FSP seem to have made that site their life’s obessession, passion, or however you want to describe it. To me, most of them seem to be very lonely people without many friends where they live, or any friends at all, and FSP has become their social outlet. Otherwise, why would be there be so much on their dedicated to their pets and cats??? It has just become such a weid place, and has gotten out of hand. I do believe that there are a lot of good people on there that probably do care very deeply about finding Stacy, but they don’t stand out like the cat lovers and Drew bashers do. There’s probably not a whole lot that can be done about it at any rate…certainly not from posting on this blog, but somebody somewhere needs to tke a step back and see that all of the nonrelevant stuff on there, as well as the treatment of of some of the past and present members, is certainly going to affect the membership and its reputation. Do they care? Probably. Will they change anything? I doubt it.

  448. theoriginalsami, on May 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am Said:
    another thing that peaked me. did they really bring drew buster baseball bats to the fundraiser? or was that a rumor?

    shows very little empathy to the kids if thats true. not to mention can be construed as a definate threat.

    And my response:
    noway406, on May 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am Said:
    t.o.sami, LD was at the fundraiser, and she says the bats were there. I was not there, so I cannot verify. I do believe Lavanda … and only “know” her from her forum, this forum and FSP,

    It does seem odd that you would bring baseball bats to a fundraiser for a missing woman who is believed to be a victim of abuse.

    Okay … “odd” was being politically correct.

    It seems insane. IMO
    _______________________
    I do need to clarify my point above. I said that LD was at the fundraiser and said there were baseball bats there. That was what I meant by ‘believing” her.

    What the bats were used for and whether they were in her car or somebody elses, I do not know.

    There seems to be some confusion among the readers here about what I believed … and I must have missed the post where they asked ME.

  449. bolingbrook60440, on May 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm Said:
    what govt office? you tell me and i will go there and put a stop to that crap
    ______________

    It’s advertised on this very site.

  450. 58apache, on April 30th, 2008 at 8:04 pm Said:
    You can rest assured that the search fund for Stacy will never go dry. I will personally ensure that the search goes on as long as is necessary. Money for fuel/lodging/equipment will not be an issue as long as I’m around.
    ————————–

    why do they need to sell anything, when they have 58apache funding and ensuring that the search fund will never go dry????

  451. freedom, i am not going to call there at the village clerk without knowing thats who is selling bumper stickers

  452. From this site:
    Volunteers needed to plan fund raiser
    Posted on April 8, 2008 by gatehousechicago
    Here’s a brief release we received earlier this morning from Bolingbrook Village Clerk Carol Penning. She is organizing the May 10 fund raiser at Bolingbrook’s Ditka Dome to aid search efforts for Stacy Peterson. The group is inviting those interested in helping to plan the event or participating in searches to attend a weekly meeting tomorrow, April 9. We’ll have more information on this when it becomes available. In the meantime, the release is below.
    Hello all –
    We will be meeting tomorrow evening at Village Hall in the Boardroom. We will have updates regarding the fundraiser and the search. Meeting time 7:30 p.m.
    Anyone wishing to attend to help with the fundraiser or with the ongoing search is welcome to attend.
    Carol
    Carol Penning
    (630)300-4207 – Cell

    Filed under: Uncategorized | Tagged: drew peterson, searches, Stacy Peterson | 3 Comments »

    *and*

    Bumper stickers may be purchased by picking one up from Bolingbrook Village Clerk Carol Penning at the village hall, 375 W. Briarcliff Road, or by stopping by search meeting locations each Saturday and Sunday morning before searches begin.

  453. 58apache, would it be ok to give your email along with your gurantee that you will provide unlimited funds to FSP? i think dayna should do and article on you and your generosity!

  454. There’s even a video here of Sharon telling “get the bumper stickers at Village Hall from Carol”.

  455. i just got off the phone with caro penning and twice i asked her if she was selling bumper stickers for stacy peterson. both times she denied it. she said there is no selling going on, she had bought some from sharon and has them there. if i wanted to buy any, i needed to contact sharon. but both times she denied saying she had them for sale i am also going to foward that post above to the mayor and see whats done. here is her phone number at the office, call yourself and see what she says. (630) 226-8411
    http://www.bolingbrook.com/index.php?page_id=2&go=official&disp_id=5

  456. thanks amanda
    i think thats a bunch of crap if she is selling bumper stickers for any reason any cause, maybe i can bring some tshirts for her to sell for me? now i am really getting steamed.

  457. amanda, just where did that post come from? i want to email its orignal post to her and see what she has to say about that.

  458. Is it normal to use the village boardroom for non city business?

    I smell corruption, wonder how much work for the fundraiser are the citizens of bolingbrook paying for with their tax dollars??

    and again why a fundraiser when they have 58apache’s open check book??

    glad I have my hip waders on now, it is getting deep.

  459. i found the post on fsp and just look who posted it! LOL

    noway
    Member

    Posts: 1117

    Re: comment left on mims site……..
    « Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 02:52:17 PM »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Found the story posted:
    http://www.mysuburbanlife…va/multimedia/x1135864161

    Quote
    By Danya Hooker, dhooker@mysuburbanlife.com
    GateHouse News Service
    Tue Apr 08, 2008, 08:27 PM CDT

    Bolingbrook, IL –
    Friends and family of Stacy Peterson are inviting the public to attend an informational meeting Wednesday, April 9, for those interested in volunteering.

    Bolingbrook Village Clerk Carol Penning, who is coordinating a May 10 fund raiser, said the group is looking for search volunteers and people interested in helping to plan, donate to or staff the fund raiser. All proceeds will go toward search efforts to find the missing Bolingbrook mom.

    “I feel like I have to do something,” said Penning, a close friend of Peterson’s. “This is a good way to help and do something that would maybe bring her home and we could give her a proper burial.”

    Penning and Peterson became close six years ago when Peterson, then 17, briefly worked for the village of Bolingbrook. The two regularly kept in contact up until Peterson’s Oct. 28 disappearance.

    “She was like a daughter to me,” Penning said.

    Although Penning said she no longer believes the young mother will be found alive, she does feel a renewed sense of hope of finding closure now that search efforts are again underway.

    “I got myself so worked up around Christmas time because that’s when I really wanted to get her back,” Penning said. “Now I feel there’s a sense of hope.”

    The fund raiser will be held at Ditka’s Sports Dome, 730 N. Route 53, in Bolingbrook, from 5 to 9 p.m. May 10, and will include family-oriented activities, such as putting contests, target contests, bean bag tournaments, and auctions. Tickets are available online at http://www.groovetickets.com. If you go

    What: Meeting about upcoming searches and fund raiser
    When: 7:30 p.m. Wednesday, April 9
    Where: Village Hall boardroom, 375 W. Briarcliff Road, Bolingbrook
    More Information: Call Village Clerk Carol Penning at (630) 300-4207 or visit http://www.FindStacyPeterson.com

    Penning said the decision to hold the event, which has been dubbed a “fun raiser,” the day before Mother’s Day was no accident.

    “We believe in our hearts that (Stacy Peterson) would not have left her children,” Penning said. “Mother’s Day is a time to honor mother’s and we wanted to honor Stacy by having this event.”
    Event organizers hope to raise at least as much money as a March 2 event in Merrionnette Park.

    That event raised more than $11,000 for search efforts, according to Friends of Stacy Peterson board member Sharon Bychowski.

    But Bychowski, Peterson’s neighbor and best friend, said those funds may not last long. A single day’s search, if it includes boats and helicopters, can cost up to $1,000 per day, Bychowski said.

    “You can see how fast that money is going to go,” she said.

    Sean Henady, founder of Aerial Image Corp., said the group has reimbursed him for more than $1,200 worth of rental and fuel expenses incurred last year. Henady donates his company’s time and equipment to take aerial images of areas identified by Illinois State Police. But he occasionally rents helicopters and planes from local airports.

    Rentals for Peterson’s search have cost between $50 and $250 per hour, said Henady, whose group has helped in more than a dozen missing persons cases.

    Aerial Image Corp. took several thousand images last year before winter weather forced the family to halt searches. Both Illinois State Police and private searches have used the images to help coordinate search efforts and to attempt to locate larger objects that could be possible evidence.

    Bychowski said the group has also reimbursed boat operators for fuel and privately-owned cadaver dog groups for their services.

    To help organize funds raised, Bychowski said Friends of Stacy Peterson applied for non-profit status in January. The group has received a letter from the Internal Revenue Service confirming receipt of the application but has not received an approval or denial, she said.

    Attempts to reach IRS officials to verify the application’s status were unsuccessful Tuesday but the IRS Web site says there is a backlog of applications, which is causing delays in processing.

    Bychowski said the group, with the help of an accountant, has also begun keeping inventory of donations, Stacy Peterson T-shirts, signs and other items. The group will also begin listing quarterly reports on http://www.FindStacyPeterson.com next quarter.

    “We already sat down with an accountant before we spent a dime of that money,” Bychowski said. “There sure is a lot more to this than I ever thought there would be.”

    also describes tax exempt bs.

  460. Carol *seems to be* using public facilities to plan the fundraiser also. The planning meeting 4/9 was at the Village Hall.

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    Volunteers sought for fund raiser and search efforts *Update*
    Posted on April 8, 2008 by gatehousechicago
    By Danya Hooker, dhooker@mysuburbanlife.com

    Bolingbrook, IL –

    Friends and family of Stacy Peterson are inviting the public to attend an informational meeting Wednesday, April 9, for those interested in volunteering.

    Bolingbrook Village Clerk Carol Penning, who is coordinating a May 10 fund raiser, said the group is looking for search volunteers and people interested in helping to plan, donate to or staff the fund raiser. All proceeds will go toward search efforts to find the missing Bolingbrook mom.

    “I feel like I have to do something,” said Penning, a close friend of Peterson’s. “This is a good way to help and do something that would maybe bring her home and we could give her a proper burial.”

    Penning and Peterson became close six years ago when Peterson, then 17, briefly worked for the village of Bolingbrook. The two regularly kept in contact up until Peterson’s Oct. 28 disappearance.

    “She was like a daughter to me,” Penning said.

    Although Penning said she no longer believes the young mother will be found alive, she does feel a renewed sense of hope of finding closure now that search efforts are again underway.

    “I got myself so worked up around Christmas time because that’s when I really wanted to get her back,” Penning said. “Now I feel there’s a sense of hope.”

    The fund raiser will be held at Ditka’s Sports Dome, 730 N. Route 53, in Bolingbrook, from 5 to 9 p.m. May 10, and will include family-oriented activities, such as putting contests, target contests, bean bag tournaments, and auctions. Tickets are available online at http://www.groovetickets.com.

    If you go

    What: Meeting about upcoming searches and fund raiser
    When: 7:30 p.m. Wednesday, April 9
    Where: Village Hall boardroom, 375 W. Briarcliff Road, Bolingbrook
    More Information: Call Village Clerk Carol Penning at (630) 300-4207 or visit http://www.FindStacyPeterson.com

    https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/volunteers-sought-for-fund-raiser-and-search-efforts/

  461. soo Carol Penning has no credibility either.

    damn does anyone involved in this case have even an ounce of credibility??

  462. Oh sorry about that, I highlighted too much.

    Anyways, Carol is using Village facilities to plan the fundraiser.

  463. How about Sharon was incorrect, not necessarily a liar? Why does everything have to be so malicious with you people? Carol is giving them away to anyone that stops by and asks. Why don’t you stop by and test that out? She’s not selling them. Calling someone a liar doesn’t make it a fact, no matter how much you would like for it to be true. Carol is a very sweet, very honest woman. Far from a liar. I’ve seen lots of liars post here though… Or maybe just lots of incorrect information.

  464. carol can do what she wants as a private citizen, but it better not be found out she is using MY tax dollars paying her salary to sell crap of any kind out of that office. sounds like here and sharon are cut from the same mold. its great she wants to help bu not with my money.

  465. Carol did tell me, after accusing me of not wanting to find Stacy and not caring about her (because I questioned why they were selling the stickers out of a government office), that the mayor has said that she and any other employee can have anything on their desks they so choose.

  466. And in the mean time you’re posting a bunch of lies. Funny way to go about getting the truth, Amanda.

  467. wewillfindstacy, i am going to do just that, go to the village office and offer to pay for a bumper sticker. but by now i am sure the drums have been beating and she is forwarned. i just called the village again and asked about the board room being available to the general public, but this DALE person wasnt answering his phone.

  468. WWFS – What lies is Amanda posting? Or is that just another wild accusation to keep people from seeking the truth?

  469. kimmer78, on May 1st, 2008 at 1:16 pm Said:
    Carol did tell me, after accusing me of not wanting to find Stacy and not caring about her (because I questioned why they were selling the stickers out of a government office), that the mayor has said that she and any other employee can have anything on their desks they so choose.

    ________________________________________
    i am sure they cant have ANYTHING they choose. and if she is giving them away, no problem there either but i bet if the mayor knew she was SELLING stuff out of her office, that would be a whole new ball game.

  470. Duh again. What I quoted has been on this site and in the news.

    From Saron.

    From Carol.

    From FSP.

    From THIS very site. So, if you are calling me a liar for saying somebody is lying, all I can say again is d-u-h.

  471. Well, Carol was told by me that Sharon said
    “SELLING – as per the video on this media outlet.

    As a taxpayer, I emailed to voice my concens with the fact that they were raising funds for SP during business hours, when only a year or so ago, BB was in trouble for it’s own money faux paus. Carol promptly called me, made her accusations, and said they will continue to provide those stickers as she sees fit.

    Wonder if I can advertise for my kid to go to soccer camp at the village hall.

  472. wow, i just spoke to the village attorney, j.boan, HE ALREADY KNEW about carol and the bumper stickers.said someone complained and she isnt allowed to sell them but can give them away. so that settles that. funny how fast he knew about it though

  473. oh , he also said that there is no policy as far as parents selling candy,etc for their kids and so on. school fundraising isnt the same as selling bumper stickers and such for a private party.

  474. You guys are really good when you put on your thinking caps and organise your efforts. It’s impressive!

    Just think what you could do if you decided to put that energy into finding Stacy Peterson. If you really wanted to stick it to “the site that will remain unnamed” you guys should work together and locate her. You’d show them up and you’d get the reward money. If you find her alive, you’d get $ from both sides.

    I’m not kidding. I’d love to see you guys united in action towards something bigger and more meaningful than bumper stickers.

  475. Well, as the creator of “the site that will remain unnamed”…I have personally offered assistance – physically, via prayers, financially etc and was told by Amy A to “shove it up my a$$”

  476. now isnt amya a class act? she is about the nuttiest of the nuts. think that bleach she uses soaked in to deep. damn, thats an evil woman.

  477. Kimmer, I mean you, Amanda, Bolingbrook, Truth etc. Who needs the other site? You gotta forget about thsoe people. You guys have proven that you’re motivated and willing to take action while others are content to don T-shirts and place flowers.

    You don’t need the OK of ‘them’ to work together and make something happen.

    I mean what I’ve said in the most complimentary way.

  478. My offers have been turned away repeatedly by FSP and threatened with legal action if we donate on behalf of them.

    Many of us supported Lisa’s Walk as well as many other missing person’s cases.

  479. facsmiley. patronizing doesnt work, at least on me. stacy wants to be found, she will be, unless dp fed her to a wood chipper. otherwise, this will play out in court. i just wont let the gestapo tactics go on and on. until i am notified otherwise, this country still abides by the constitution of the united states.

  480. Kimmer, I’m saying don’t work with FSP. There’s no need to. If you really want to show them up (and not by donations and offers of aid) use your investigative talents, your passion and guts to do what I just saw you guys do.

    I’m not going to twist anyone’s arm. I was sincerely impressed and it occured to me that if this group coud focus that together you could really do something.

  481. We have and we do. I pay special attention to this case because it is in my backyard. And when I see something wrong, I want it righted.

  482. facsmiley

    just ignoring yet another wrong is not in the best interest of the public either. fsp has slithered around for months & the public has a right to know what is going on.

  483. This just gets nutter by the moment.

    Carol is lying, plain and simple. The idea is to raise funds, so I seriously doubt Carol out of the goodness of her heart would just be giving them away.

    And if she is, why don’t they just give them away to everyone that wants one. Which I might add, doesn’t seem like too many people are buying them up.

    I’ll say this again, I would LOVE to see all these people on the witness stand under cross examination. They could write a show as good as that would be.

  484. hardly research facs.
    It’s all right here. Don’t even have to google that.

    I did search. I’m done.

    If DP put her someplace she won’t be found. If she put herself someplace, who knows. A woman just turned up after 32 years in a new identity, she’d been in trouble, needed to get out of it.

    IMO, SP is long dead. I am very sorry about that, I’m not at all callous to Stacy, I am callous to the joke they are trying to make of her. The joke of a site they put her name on. It is sad, and pathetic, and wrong.

  485. I have noticed there isn’t the same amount of excitement and buzz about the upcoming fundraisers.

    Last one people could hardly contain themselves with excitement over it.

    Last one seemed like it was nothing more than a reunion with TONS of drinks. Which I have noticed seems important to many over there. The new one is more for families, and we all know how much they care about families…hence no need to get all excited.

  486. OK, well you may want to think about my suggestion at a later point. It was well-intentioned.

    For now you can continue on with the “FSP-haters Mutual Masturbation” club, which you prefer to indulge in rather than anything useful, meaningful or lasting.

    Enjoy!

  487. We don’t hate them. We want them to stop the dishonor of Stacy. We want them to stop the endangerment of her children with posts about when they are home alone. We want them to account for the money they have solicited. We want them to abide by the laws that have made this country great for so many many years.

  488. kimmer78, on May 1st, 2008 at 1:59 pm Said:
    My offers have been turned away repeatedly by FSP and threatened with legal action if we donate on behalf of them.
    ____________________________________

    May I ask how you were threatened with legal action if you donated on behalf of them?

  489. wewillfindstacy, on May 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm Said:
    And in the mean time you’re posting a bunch of lies. Funny way to go about getting the truth, Amanda.
    ——–

    funny what is being repeated is what was put in the media by sharon and carol! who’s lying?

    Bumper stickers may be purchased by picking one up from Bolingbrook Village Clerk Carol Penning at the village hall, 375 W. Briarcliff Road, or by stopping by search meeting locations each Saturday and Sunday morning before searches begin.

  490. Yeah…I don’t really care. I think all of that is actually just sour grapes by a group of bitter people who could focus their energies in about …. a million more positive ways than in obsessiing over some discussion forum.

    Sorry, but that’s how I feel about it and it’s easy for me to see it that way because I don’t think the FSP site is very important.

    If there were real legal issues at stake, there would be lawsuits. If the kids were in real danger, they’d be removed from the home, etc.

    And the worst part is that the constant conversation about something so meaningless is so BORING and detracts energy from the real case and its fascination.

    Those people and that site are not what this case is about. If you let yourself get diverted into caring about it, then you aren’t doing Stacy any service…or honoring her.

  491. Exactly why are YOU here facs? You like name calling too…. just not the same targets.

    Hypocrite.

  492. FSP is meaning less. well you are right about that. but how sad a missing persons site is meaningless and a circus.

  493. so did anyone ask the village attorney what the policy was for using the village board room for personal reason?

    can drew use that same room??

  494. oh yeah that site means nothing to the case!! lol

    from foxnews

    Friends of Stacy Peterson Decry Drew Peterson’s $25G Reward as Publicity Stunt

    BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — Friends of missing woman Stacy Peterson say a $25,000 reward offered by her husband Drew Peterson, the prime suspect in her disappearance, is just another ploy for attention.

    Stacy’s neighbor Sharon Bychowski, who with a group of the young woman’s friends has put out a separate reward for $35,000, denounced retired police officer Peterson’s latest move.

    “We know that it’s another publicity stunt,” Bychowski told MyFOXChicago. “Everything Drew does is not about finding Stacy, ever.”

    But Peterson’s attorney says the reward is a genuine effort to track down his fourth wife, who vanished six months ago and hasn’t been heard from since.

    “We don’t need to do publicity stunts to get attention — we can get it without doing anything,” lawyer Joel Brodsky told MyFOXChicago. “This is a bona fide, real attempt to spur interest in finding Stacy.”

    Brodsky said his client wants to bring her out of “hiding where she does not want to be found.”

    Peterson has maintained that Stacy ran off on her own. He told MyFOXChicago that tips are already pouring in, including a promising one from a woman who thought she saw his missing wife at an all-inclusive resort in Jamaica.

  495. Wow can you imagine, if stacy is found through drews reward ALIVE. That would be awesome regardless who’s award, IMO. but I’m sure it would dissapoint alot of people that can’t blame drew.

    Peterson has maintained that Stacy ran off on her own. He told MyFOXChicago that tips are already pouring in, including a promising one from a woman who thought she saw his missing wife at an all-inclusive resort in Jamaica.

  496. What, Gestapo tactics from Bolingbrook? You ain’t no boss o’ me, as they say.

    I like it here when people want to discuss the case, but I usually have to check a few times during the day to find times when people aren’t just pulling each other’s puds over their abandonment issues and sour grapes.

    Sometimes there’s actually some good conversation.

  497. May I ask how you were threatened with legal action if you donated on behalf of them
    __________________
    my apologies, if I COLLECTED on their behalf. I had a very large local company that was more than willing to match employee donatoins, but would need the tax id #. I emailed Admin and AmyA with the information and was told by AmyA I could “stick my donation up my ass” and that I am not permitted to solicit donations on behalf of FSP.

  498. facsmiley, on May 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pm Said:
    What, Gestapo tactics from Bolingbrook? You ain’t no boss o’ me, as they say.

    I like it here when people want to discuss the case, but I usually have to check a few times during the day to find times when people aren’t just pulling each other’s puds over their abandonment issues and sour grapes.

    _______________________________________

    another example of class from FSP goons


  499. _______________________________________
    no, sharon doesnt want any attention or publicity. she is so shy and modest.

  500. probably no searches because for the next two weekends there are fundraisers, the 3rd and the 10th, with mother’s day on the 11th. just a guess for why no searches.

  501. Ok I have to admit this is pretty funny stuff.

    With Drews reward comes an email address to send tips. This was all announced yesterday, correct?

    It dawned on them over at FSP that it’s probably not a good idea to email that address.

    I know, I can just feel it, so many of those people have emailed that address with nasty writings, and now Drew and Company are eating it up. Knowing who’s who and stuff like that…hahahahahaha.

  502. thats was last weekend, freedom
    i am sure they are not going to miss out on the free pizza or what ever else they can panhandle this weekend during the “search”

  503. No, what it is…SAD!!!

    Can anyone confirm if searchers are going out of town for “training”?

  504. freedom08, on May 1st, 2008 at 6:03 pm Said:
    even funnier is fsp has an email address for tips.

    As I said in a previous post, I am not a member of FSP, and I’m not here trying to bash them. But one thing about their HOME PAGE that bothers me is that there are no phone numbers listed to call with tips or information, nor email addresses to leave a tip. Freedom, I don’t even see inside the site the email address for tips that you are referring to. Where is it? I looked, but never saw it. I would think that all of the tip line/email information would be right there on the home page, instead of having to dig around inside the site to find it. Maybe someone else knows more about it than I do, but I just found it a little curious that particular information wasn’t where someone could easily spot it…..just in case they might need it.

  505. Is there a rumor that they are going out of town for training?

    Please tell me that is just a bad rumor!

  506. I don’t know if it is a rumor or not, so I figured I come here to see if any FSPer could confirm.

  507. I dont even know what to say about the “going out of town for training” stuff.

    I know many organization have offered help and were turned down. Texas Equ came in, does it get much better than that? No, and they ran them off.

    I’m telling you….there is something seriously wrong with this picture.

    There is NO urgency in anything they do, and that is bothersome to me.

  508. Excuse me bolingbrook60440, but I wasn’t addressing you, NOR am I playing dumb!!!! And where do you get off accusing me of such a thing?? How rude!! I have never gone looking for that particular information until I read Freedom’s post on here, and I damn sure can’t find it! Who died and made you king of this forum anyway?? Your reply to me was completely uncalled for!! Geez!

  509. i dont care who you were addressing, cfs. youre a big time poster on fsp, so dont give me your crap, no mood for it. rude? rude is faking who you are, thats rude. the info you need is on the freaking home page of fsp. no one made me anything.

  510. I watched the video and it’s clear that Sharon told the reporter they are going out of town this weekend for training.

    Now that will fires me up. WTF is the matter with these people. I can clearly remember member’s of the search comment making comments on FSP that they didnt need assistance, they knew what they were doing etc.

    Those that don’t see, nor want to believe something is fishy are blind to what is really going on.

  511. cfs, you know how Paula Abdul commented on both of Jason Castro’s song after he’d only sung one?

    It’s kind of like that. Some people are living in their own realities that have very little in common with what the rest of us are experiencing.

    The nice thing about Paula Abdul is that she isn’t paranoid and rude.

  512. Interesting post, and choice of a fundraiser. In my opinion, if they are good at anything it is “cooking the books.”

    Wincity57
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    I love the ideas here. I think a cook book would be fantastic. All of Stacy’s favorite dishes made in different ways, by so many friends.

  513. gatehousechicago, danya hooker

    There are posters on this forum who are not only personally attacking me, they are spreading lies about me being a member of FSP, as well as accusing me of being someone called CLF, whom I don’t even know. Personal attacks and spreading lies are totally against the rules of this forum, and I ask that you please delete these posts and do whatever else is nescessary.. I will email you the posts that I am referring to shortly. Thank you.

  514. cfs

    do u know how many times i was accused of being brodsky or drew & those are real life names. i not once went running to mommy or daddy.

  515. Well, deleting posts is a start. What they should do is get his IP and ban him permanently.

    He’s really just a troll and only posts here for the negative attention he can get.

  516. Here’s a piece of advice, if it pertains to you, take it….don’t like it…don’t read it. Don’t feed into the drama.

  517. facsmiley, on May 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm Said:
    Well, deleting posts is a start. What they should do is get his IP and ban him permanently.

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    you mean like you do on fsp, facsmiley? ban people for speaking their mind? heil!

  518. I’m so disturbed at the thought of them going away for training.

    It’s now May 1st, and they have done maybe three weekends of searchs, and some of those have been half days etc.

    What is the real reason for no searchs? Wouldnt it be wise, if it is really necessary, to send one person, and then have them come back and train the rest. Meanwhile those that are staying back can continue to search?

    Why are we hearing more talk of flower gardens, and fundraisers than actual searchs?

  519. kimmer78, on May 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm Said:
    Here’s a piece of advice, if it pertains to you, take it….don’t like it…don’t read it. Don’t feed into the drama.

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    You should follow your own advice. Nothing on FSP pertains to you and you don’t like it, yet you continue to read it. You continue to seek out information about it. And seem to crave the drama that you might create by talking about it over and over again. Just an observation…

  520. letthetruthbefree,do you really think the searches will be productive? its like grade school girls that are nancy drew wannabes. “lets go out and stomp around in the weeds and see how much attention we get and free food”. i seriously doubt a cop of 29 years is going to dump a body for them to stumble upon.