Your thread – May 5

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699 thoughts on “Your thread – May 5

  1. Here’s the last few posts from the previous thread…minus some of the personal attacks.

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    jurorthirteen, on May 5th, 2008 at 3:54 am Said: Edit Comment

    fascinatingtermsofdeservice, on May 5th, 2008 at 12:34 am Said:
    Excuse me as of today there is only one dead woman in this story.
    Why do you ENJOY so much saying that Sp is dead?
    Do you have a fascination with death, or you think it will “milk” more money if you tell people she’s DEAD!
    Sounds horrible especially that we don’t know for sure her status. Yuck

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    I just love the court of Public Opinion! Truly!

    Just wanted to mention that the investigators have said they don’t believe that Stacy Peterson left on her own accord, and that they have discarded the idea that there was ever a man that she ran off with.

    It would be great if Stacy were alive, but then Drew’s butt would still be in a sling…. wouldn’t it?

    They’d be asking her about Drew’s involvement in Kathleen Savio’s death.

    Hmmmmmm? Stacy told Pastor Schori about the murder in August, I believe…. then she goes missing the next month…. Gosh I hope she didn’t threaten him with the Savio stuff during a fight.

    http://www.jurorthirteen.com
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    jurorthirteen, on May 5th, 2008 at 3:56 am Said: Edit Comment

    Oops…. guess that was about 2 month’s, not one 🙂

  2. From what I know, Drew had plans to retire to Arizona. He and Stacy had looked at houses in Arizona.

    Stacy’s dad was planning to move. He changed his plans when his daughter disappeared.

    Based on what ISP have told Cass, she no longer believes Stacy is alive. Hence, the theory that she is dead.

    I don’t think anyone, except the person who killed her, would take pleasure in saying that.

  3. Quote: Meanwhile, Cales said, the family continues to look for Stacy. He said he was supposed to move to California around the time Stacy disappeared, a move he has put off to look for his daughter.

    http://www.chicagotribune…y_02may02,0,1363979.story

  4. I don’t enjoy thinking about Stacy as being dead. I know that I was struck in her case by how quickly her family members and friends spoke as if that was the situation.

    So often you see family members holding out hope for the safe return of a loved one, and there was none of that here. As soon as I heard the quotes about how she was afraid he would kill her and that his last wife had been found drowned in a dry bathtub, my opinion pretty much fell in with those who knew Stacy.

    If her family is willing to accept that she is dead and ISP says she never left her home and family willingly, then I only have the word of man suspected in her disappearance that she was alive the evening of October 28and…I just don’t believe him.

  5. If she ran off with someone, I would guess they haven’t left the country.

    What would make him think that she left the country? Has he ever said?

    I mean there are beaches in the United States too. And you don’t need a passport to get into Delaware. Or California.

  6. Noway, I don’t believe he thinks at all that she left the country. The fact that he said she took her passport (yeah, right) just made him keep adding to that lie.

  7. That passport was more than likely under his shirt the night he kept slipping out of house when Ric Mims was there. Wouldn’t surprise me what else was under there either.

  8. I don’t guess her new cell phone has even been recovered either, or purse, or who knows what else that he probably did away with.

  9. cfs, I agree that he has to keep adding to the lie. Because personally, I think he killed her.

    So it was that she took her passport that is his reason for sending his PIs to look for her out of the country?

    Has he been able to justify why her name has not shown up on a list of people who have left the country? I mean, if she took her passport, she’s traveling under the name on the passport, right?

  10. Maybe there is no “list” of people when they leave the U.S.

    Maybe they only make the “list” when they return?

  11. One thing that bothers me about some of the things he says she said when she “supposedly” called him that night was where her car was. That’s just nowhere near believable to me! If she was actually leaving him, the last thing that would probably be on her mind would be letting him know where her car was. Are we supposed to believe she was more concerned about the location of her car instead of her children? Then again, not much of anything he says is believable as far as I’m concerned.

  12. Noway, I don’t know if there is a list or not. I’ve never been out of the country, and I agree with you….I think he killed her also.

  13. cfs, you’d think by the time anyone asked him what Stacy said, he would have come up with a plausible conversation.

    “I’m leaving you for another man. The car is at Clow Airport.” (What about me and the children? What am I supposed to do with the kids?}

    The ( ) text above is paraphrasing what Drew stated he said during the conversation.

    IMO, This does not take 5 minutes (which is what I’ve read the call took).

    And as you said, why in the world would she bother to tell him where the car was?

  14. “Based on what ISP have told Cass, she no longer believes Stacy is alive. Hence, the theory that she is dead.”

    First of all Cass’ perception of reality it’s not 100% accurate. Sp was telling her Saturday that she’s in fear for her life but Cass didn’t get really worried about Sp’s whereabouts until Sunday 11 pm. So whatever ISP might have told her, I can’t say her interpretation of ISP’s info is accurate. Why is the police not saying that they believe Sp is not alive? At least now, sixth months after she vanished without a trace.

    Just think if sp is alive somewhere, unable to contact her family but she has access to the news and hear as you all are mourning her death, you all are talking about a body, how would she feel?

  15. fascinatingtermsofdeservice, on May 5th, 2008 at 11:33 am Said:
    “Based on what ISP have told Cass, she no longer believes Stacy is alive. Hence, the theory that she is dead.”

    First of all Cass’ perception of reality it’s not 100% accurate. Sp was telling her Saturday that she’s in fear for her life but Cass didn’t get really worried about Sp’s whereabouts until Sunday 11 pm. So whatever ISP might have told her, I can’t say her interpretation of ISP’s info is accurate. Why is the police not saying that they believe Sp is not alive? At least now, sixth months after she vanished without a trace.

    Just think if sp is alive somewhere, unable to contact her family but she has access to the news and hear as you all are mourning her death, you all are talking about a body, how would she feel?

    ISP released statements directly to Larry King, as well as Dan Abrams that stated she didn’t not leave willingly. That is NOT just Cassandra’s interpretation. Also, Cassandra starting calling Stacy at around 1:00 p.m. that Sunday and all of her calls went to voice mail on Stacy’s phone. She called her aunt in California after calling Stacy’s house and one of the boys told her Stacy had gone to see her grandfather. Cassandra then called the aunt and an uncle, who called the grandpa that Stacy was going to see she was never there. Nobody Cassandra called had heard from her so she finally called Drew. Where did you get that waited until 11:00 p.m. to start checking on Stacy? What I just wrote has been in the news and can easily be found on Youtube at this moment, as well as other sources. I don’t believe she’s alive, so I don’t think your last statement has any relevancy. Just my opinion.

  16. is what i read correct? the “fun-raiser” this saturday is 25 dollars at the door? is that alot of money for a fund raiser? cha ching!!!. i got to get in the fund raising business

  17. Well, maybe you think it’s a lot of money, $25.00, but the Empress or Harrah’s, which are nearby, wouldn’t balk for a minute if you threw $25.00 in one of their machines. So, weighing the two, I’d say the $25.00 that goes towards raising funds to mind a missing mother of four is the better investment.

  18. hopefully after this fund raiser that reward will climb to 50k and be able to fund the search all summer. should be a real money maker.

  19. The reward and the search money are two different issues, i believe, aren’t they? If her family and friends are looking for her separate from LE, then they need private donations to pay hired searchers that are using sophisticated eqipment.

    Maybe DPeterson can add to the reward even a little more, and drop his language about finding her safe.

  20. cfs
    cassandra cales stated she was told friday night by stacy that she feared for her life not saturday. why didnt they do something then? not like she told cassandra she burnt the eggs that morning.

  21. Well, if I take the statement that she was told Friday by Stacy that she feared for her life, and didn’t do anything about it, then I guess she is the one that has to live with that, and go over and over in her mind what she could have done differently.

    On the other hand, you have KS and her family saying the same thing, yet, she’s still dead.

    So, who’s the bad guy here? Cassandra, Stacy, or the possibly murderer of two women? I’ll go with Drew.

  22. “She told me Friday night, ‘If anything happens to me, I fear for my life.’” – Cassandra Cales

    “She used to say constantly to me, ‘just remember, if I disappear, it is not an accident. He killed me.” – Sharon Bychowski

  23. I’m just putting those out there as reminders of the actual quotes. But who’s to say if something could have been done earlier and how it might have changed the outcome…whatever that was!

  24. i think comparing the two victims is not productive.
    ks didnt cover for a murder, that we know of. stacy did.
    ks did somthing about dp, stacy didnt.
    ks got a divorce, stacy didnt
    ks reached out to le, relatives. stacy didnt.
    ks didnt torment stacy.

    you ask who the bad guy is? should be who the bad GUYS were. dp and sp. and the list goes on.

  25. thats why all this talk about drew being abusive, stacy covering for a murder, cassandra & sharon say she feared for her life yet nothing done? the actions dont match the words by the family. both sides have holes.

  26. I’ve never seen such an enormous amount of blame as I have seen with Stacy Peterson.

    Peterson and Brodsky have set out to put doubt in people’s minds, in case they are the people that are chosen to be on the jury, who’s fate rests in their hands.

    Okay. (These are not my words). She was spoiled, she had plastic surgery, she withheld information regarding a murder, she craved male attention, she has less that perfect family and friends, she exchanged racy text messages, she’s the reason a board has been set up by her supporters, who are running a scam under the noses of the IRS and any other Illinois legal authority they can, and they say they’re searching for her, but they’re not really.

    Now, does that about cover it? Because, I’ve been paying attention here, and that is what some are proclaiming to be what it is.

    Hallelujah for Peterson and Brodsky. Maybe they’re really onto something, ya think? They convinced a few to ponder the ideas they’re throwing out there. Now, if they can just get these people to work themselves onto the jury, I think they’ve got a chance. He’s free to move on to his next victim.

  27. Oh, and ever so nicely as I can say this, Mr. Bolingbrook, I am well aware she covered up for KSavio’s murder. Okay? Can we move on from that too, or should she rot in a shallow grave, dead at the hand of Drew Peterson, because you can’t stand the idea she kept that secret for four years?

  28. why is it that because of a missing status a persons actions cant be put out on the table as well as another? the only way u can get all the facts is to look at all the people & their actions. nothing wrong with that.

    why we all have to have the stepford way of thinking so as not to shake up the image is beyond me.

  29. I think it will be interesting when and if all the facts come out to find out if there’s more to Stacy’s involvement in the Savio case, but I don’t think there will be a lot of focus on Stacy since she’s (presumabley) dead and can’t be charged, much less defend or implicate herself.

    I anything that comes to light might be good fodder for an investigative reporter and a book one day, but I don’t think it will go anywhere in the courts.

    If it turns out that Drew actually gets charged with the murders of both women then he’s the one who’ll have to answer for it.

  30. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 4:21 pm Said:
    Oh, and ever so nicely as I can say this, Mr. Bolingbrook, I am well aware she covered up for KSavio’s murder. Okay? Can we move on from that too, or should she rot in a shallow grave, dead at the hand of Drew Peterson, because you can’t stand the idea she kept that secret for four years?

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    because its a fact of the case.

    just because it makes people uncomfortable doesnt mean it should be ignored. why not move away from the same repeated accusations or statements of drew peterson? because its part of the case as well like it or not its just the way it is.

  31. i agree theres nothing likeable about drew that i know of. i dont think i like stacy much either. she gave drew an alibi covering up the murder of the mother of two children. both of them arent looking good to me at this point. she then adopted the kids of the women she covered up the murder of, gained financially. both drew & stacy still arent looking too good right now. priot to the murder both drew & stacy go to this womans house & taunt her. very bad on both parts.
    racey text messages. drew making pms comments. both still dont look very angelic to me.

    cassandra & sharon saying she feared for her life w/sharon saying for a long time but again none of their actions reflected what cassandra & sharon are now saying. if they were as close as they say why did they sit by? that might be why alot of people are saying the door doesnt just swing one way.

  32. Facsmiley – they can charge her, they can try her and they can sentence her, for being an accomplice, or whatever the legal minds here want to call her, for withholding information about KS’s death. Won’t that just fix her butt for doing that? That’ll teach her. Bet she’ll never do that again, huh?

  33. I guess if we’re going to be totally fair we should take a good look at Kathleen and see how much dirt we can dig up on her. Or are we supposed to consider her a complete innocent and Stacy as the bad girl? It seems like everyone involved with Drew and his circle has some dirty laundry, so why would it be surprising? But really, what’s the point of doing it to either victim?

    Are we just so bored with the few facts we have about the actual missing person and homicide cases, that we now feel the need to dig and pick at the victims and fantasize beyond the wickedness of a man who murders his wives?

    To me if Stacy knew about Kathleen’s murder, then it’s interesting only because it gives Drew a bigger and meatier motive for killing her, beyond the fact that she simply wanted a divorce.

  34. Kathleen, God rest her soul, was “the other woman” when Peterson was still on his second marriage. We might as well drag her name into the muck too.

  35. why do u take so much offense that people actually might want to look at all the people involved? i wasnt aware we were on fsp.

    i have never stated to any of u that drew is an angel nor am i going to have u use fsp tactics on me here. again u r all allowed to ur opinions. why try stomping anyone elses that fails the fsp test? drew is an idiot & stacy was no innocent either.

  36. Oh, stop it with the FSP crap. That’s old already. FSP tactics. Then go play somewhere else if you don’t like it. I’m sick of you guys dragging that FSP stuff here. Gatehouse is sick of it.

  37. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 4:21 pm Said:
    Oh, and ever so nicely as I can say this, Mr. Bolingbrook, I am well aware she covered up for KSavio’s murder. Okay? Can we move on from that too, or should she rot in a shallow grave, dead at the hand of Drew Peterson, because you can’t stand the idea she kept that secret for four years?
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    NO NO NO, not move on from that, because thats what caused stacy to lose her own life. dont you get it????
    if she had stabbed dp in the heart, i would have backed her 110%. if she had done anything to bring dp to justice, i would be behind her and the family 110%.
    no listen close. SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING!!!!!

  38. facsmiley, on May 5th, 2008 at 4:47 pm Said:
    I guess if we’re going to be totally fair we should take a good look at Kathleen and see how much dirt we can dig up on her.
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    do it, see what you can find about kathleen. i dont think you will find she was banging someone 30yrs older that she. had more than just dp hanging around her at the motel she worked at. kathleen didnt have text messages sent to her that we know of, telling her what a great ride she was. shall i go on and on? kathleen savio did everything right to get away from the monster, stacy ran to his open arms. $$$$$ all about the dollars.

  39. yeah, Mr. Bolingbrook, I get it. And if his teen sons know more than they’re saying for now, especially since he’s stopping them from going to the GJ, maybe he can disappear them too, don’t ya think?

    Yes, sami, you have the right to talk about whatever you want. 100% right, absolutely.

    Now, you have my attention. What is it you want me to know?

  40. I agree about the $$$.

    She knew KS was murdered and went and got “improvements” on KS’ insurance money.

  41. Stacy is (most likely) dead. Drew is the only suspect in her death.

    She doesn’t need anyone’s ‘backing’. She’s gone. Her family isn’t on trial and never will be. You can’t be tried for being related to a dead person who knew about a murder. That’s just silly.

    This is a legal case, not a popularity contest. Why is there such a big push to say whether you like or dislike someone you don’t know, or really know anything about? Whether or not you like or back anyone in the case is about as unimportant as can be.

  42. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 5:01 pm Said:
    Oh, stop it with the FSP crap. That’s old already. FSP tactics. Then go play somewhere else if you don’t like it. I’m sick of you guys dragging that FSP stuff here. Gatehouse is sick of it.
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    then stop using the gestapo tactics of fsp? the brow beating and bashing of anyone that wont conform to your hateful ways. and dont presume to speak for dayna. just who do you think you are,rescueapet? i hope to god the hate you show here doesnt reflect on your rescue pets.

  43. rescue, I am under the impression Bolingbrook is female, not sure, but your digs are frikken OLD.

  44. see what you can find about kathleen. i dont think you will find she was banging someone 30yrs older that she. had more than just dp hanging around her at the motel she worked at. kathleen didnt have text messages sent to her that we know of, telling her what a great ride she was. shall i go on and on? kathleen savio did everything right to get away from the monster, stacy ran to his open arms. $$$$$ all about the dollars.
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    Sounds like the Kathleen’s the winner here! Oh, I forgot. She’s dead, too.

  45. No searches were held for the last 2 weekends, nor will there be any next weekend.

    What does anyone make of that?

    It makes me wonder why they need another fun-raiser to pay for searches they are not doing.

  46. Search – Saturday & Sunday -May 3rd & 4th, 2008
    There will be no volunteer searches this weekend. Searches are still being conducted, but are in places where it is not safe for volunteers to be.

    Search – Saturday & Sunday -May 10th & 11th, 2008
    There will be no volunteer searches this weekend. Searches are still being conducted, but are in places where it is not safe for volunteers to be.

  47. Mr. Bolingbrook – the ice that runs through your veins is enough for me, thank you very much.

  48. lots of bad husbands are good dads. i dont get why they arent searching. so what if they are searching where it is too dangerous. isnt there safe places they could look while whoever does the dangerous spots. it makes no sense

  49. Agreed. Closed forums with small groups that are condusive to sympathy/empathy are good for revealing personal issues.

    Plus, you usually can find a “friendship” in those kinds of groups.

    Best not to give ammo for free.

  50. Discussing horrible things a victim has done is said to be bashing.

    Actually it is not.

  51. surely they haven’t searched all the easy places have they? i dont see bb as being a hater. hes just putting info & ideas out there.

  52. Why aren’t you guys that are pointing out the fund raising missteps calling the Attorney General’s Office, Lisa Madigan, or the Chicago Division of the IRS?

    Why are you telling us, instead of reporting them? I don’t understand that.

  53. Drew is the worst dad in the world, he killed the women 4 children loved the most in the world. He is the worst possible dad you can be period.

  54. thank you, feistygurl. That actually was a very worthy comment. No attacks on anyone, just stating an opinion.

  55. facsmiley, on May 5th, 2008 at 5:41 pm Said:
    Then add what appears to be one person with a serious psychosis, and well…here we are.
    _______________________________
    again, thank you doctor.

  56. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 5:46 pm Said:
    Why aren’t you guys that are pointing out the fund raising missteps calling the Attorney General’s Office, Lisa Madigan, or the Chicago Division of the IRS?

    Why are you telling us, instead of reporting them? I don’t understand that.
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    Oh for chrissakes, that is how we KNOW.
    FSP said it was done, filed, paperworked. Tax exempt, up and up.
    IRS had no record, IL had no record.
    Every company that donated could NOT claim a write-off, and if they did they MAY BE IN TAX TROUBLE, and that is a problem.

    No one has claimed they have mis-used the funds (unless you count NOT SEARCHING) but the fund was LIED about.

    LIED ABOUT.

    Hopefully by now they have scrambled to cover their asses, but if they have legal issues, it will take more fundraisers to get even more money for possible real searches.

    What is so hard to understand?

    THEY DID IT WRONG, and they lied about doing it wrong.

  57. no bb i was being sarcastic. i know they called for the boycot & i know they made the visine threat too.

  58. The only credibility she has is if her head is bobbing up and down on camera. It’s all pretend. Just have a gander at her picture smiling, yes, SMILING, over her bff’s memorial sharonshrine.

    Fake bobblehead.

  59. i know we’ll all be accused of bashing (though it goes both ways) but these r the things that people look at for credibility issues.

    if sharon would lie on national tv about the boycott even with it still in the written word then what else could she be lying about?

    that is a valid question.

  60. Ok here is something I can not put together.

    Stacy packed up Drews stuff and wanted him to leave.

    Stacy whispers to cassandra if she dies or whatever drew did it.

    Seems like the girl who would pack up her husbands stuff and would tell him to get out would say right in front of drew to cassandra ” if I die he did it”

  61. if i thought i was going to be killed, id pack up & leave not get my supposed future murderer to leave. talk about fanning the flames.

    ah drew i know ur a murderer & i think u might murder me, could u please leave so u cant murder me?

    or, take ur suitcase & get out of Denver baby!

  62. just watched the plea from sharon asking for more money for funding of the aerial & dog teams & other searchers. has anyone seen any of these teams they keep saying they’ve continued to pay?

  63. Drew denies (as does he about most anything about this case) that Stacy ever packed up his stuff and asked him for a divorce.

    The only thing I can think of right now is that she must have thought that holding Kathleen’s murder over him was enough to get her what she wanted.

    I have to say that I’m with you t.o.sami: He’s murdered one wife. WHY do you think you won’t suffer the same fate?

    If Stacy did say these things to Sharon and Cass (I’m afraid for my life; he says he could kill me and make it look like an accident), did they not believe her? Did they not ask questions?

    If I told one of my sisters that I feared my husband (and they knew nothing of the why) I am sure they would ask: has he ever hit you? why has he said he could kill you and make it look like an accident?

    And they would drag me from the house, if not then, at the first opportunity (like when he was at work).

  64. if anyone is local. go to the aquatic center in bolingbrook, see how many show up for searches. that is when they do schedule a search. i know they wont have one saturday, the “fun-raiser” 25$’s to enter. says food and beer included. what beer? what food? sunday is mothers day so no search then, but make sure you dontate anything and everything you were going to get your mother to find stacy! god, i want to barf.

  65. who all has stated she had his stuff packed in boxes? & funny sp had sharons garage door opener for some yard sale stuff. could the 6 boxes really be for the yard sale.

  66. i thought it was sharon that made the statements about the packed boxes.

    the same sharon that stated nationally that she never called for a boycott.

  67. According to Sharon, she found Stacy sitting (by the driveway??) crying. She had (according to Sharon) asked Drew for a divorce and had packed his stuff into 6 (also heard 10) boxes.

    My point is: Are you afraid for your life OR are you asking your husband for a divorce and packing his stuff.

    I don’t think you can be both.

  68. ive also wondered about this news report with sharon.
    she states drew was calling her name outside her house & would also go in the back yard & scream her name while the cop was in the front yard.

    my question is how big is her house that a cop wouldnt hear a man screaming at a house or person in the house?

  69. Sharon lets the media stretch the truth.

    Sharon lies.

    Sharon is enjoying the hell out of this circus. Go ask her.

  70. sami, just like sharon said dp went berserk. i think things will quiet down now that she has her munchkins planting her garden and she can pretend to be glenda the good witch. i am betting the neighbors on pheasant chase ae wishing they were somehwhere else. she already went after that poor guy that was trying to sell his house next door to dp.

  71. bolingbrook60440, on May 5th, 2008 at 6:49 pm Said:

    rescueapet and her goonies must be putting their collective heads together and figuring out new insults.
    ***************************

    What did you start this up again for? You are baiting and taking this down into the dumps again. YOU HAD THIS PLACE TO YOURSELF, AND YET, YOU STARTED ONCE AGAIN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???

    STAY OUT OF MY FACE, KEEP MY NAME OFF OF YOUR POSTS!!!!!!!!!

  72. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 7:19 pm Said:
    Now, that’s what I call an intelligent contribution to this forum. You really add something here, bolinghead.
    ____________________________________
    eat your heart out. baby. lol. you forgot to say”amen”.
    i bet that comes easy to you, doesnt it? AH, MEN!

  73. What, you couldn’t stand the peace and quiet amongst the others? You had to start with your baiting again? Goonies.

    What the heck is wrong with you?

  74. theoriginalsami, on May 5th, 2008 at 7:21 pm Said:
    what guy trying to sell his house bb?
    ____________________________________
    the guy next door to dp on the opposite side of sharon. put his house up for sale, and the hyennas went after him too, posted his name, specs on the house, etc. becaue he didnt want the prayer vigaliantes out there.

  75. i hope ur just busting me about that bb cause if its true thats getting beyond fanatical.

  76. Well, since Drew Peterson scares the bejesus out of me, I can’t believe anyone would enjoy having anything to do with him.

    It just bothers me that people say Stacy was afraid for her life but nobody asks whether they believed her (if she said it all the time but stayed, did it just seem like had “burnt the eggs” as someone said?

    If she was afraid, but thought that what she held over Drew was somehow a safety net for her, I suppose you could have it both ways.

    Except that she knew he killed his first wife.

    I just keep going around and around and around.

    She is missing.

    That’s about the only thing I can say I know. (And yes, maybe she ran off, but since Drew doesn’t know where she is, wouldn’t that qualify as missing? And if Drew killed her, Cass doesn’t know where she is, so that too would qualify her as missing, right?)

  77. As far as the house for sale next door, I did wonder what the heck it had to do with Stacy being missing.

  78. it didnt have anything to do with stacy other than the poor guy said it was a bad idea to have the prayer vigil right there in the cul-de-sac

  79. was that ever true that the mayor showed up for the vigil?

    fsp reported it as true i have no idea

  80. i think its true. maybe in paper. for some reason i think it was confirmed. but dont make we swear to it

  81. did anyone check out the vid of sharon stating drew was screaming her name in the backyard while a cop was in the front yard?

    anyone buy that one?

    want opinions please

  82. I didn’t see the video that you’re talking about (computer issue with video). Was this at the time the garage door opener incident?

  83. i think shes lying too. if drew is this mastermind & been on the force for so many years. how many can believe he would all of a sudden be screaming in her backyard with a cop there?

    how many believe a cop in the front yard could not hear that?

  84. No, before that.

    Sharon claimed Drew came over and yelled at her, this was about 11/12 or so.

    Then she and her “afraid” family had to go stay at a hotel under an assumed name for safety.

    Thought they’d need a restaining order, blahblahblah

  85. noway

    its when sharon filed a restraining order in fear for her life. stated he was in the driveway screaming “come here sharon i want you” so she called the cops.

    when the cops came sharon said drew went in her backyard screaming her name again while the cops were in her front yard.

  86. I’ll look at the video if it’s around that time … did the police officer say he didn’t hear Drew yelling her name?

  87. the police did not confirm, no restraining order issued & she moved back. guess that didnt work, had to try another tactic.

  88. I think the restraining order wasn’t issued because of restrictions with the relationship between Drew and Sharon, wasn’t it?

    I mean the language itself; how the law was written.

  89. I’ll have to save my comments/opinion until I see the video. I do think that if someone shouted a name from the front yard to the back (based on pictures of the size of the houses/yards) you would be able to hear them.

    I suppose it depends on where the police officer was when Drew (allegedly) yelled her name. Was he in his car or outside with Sharon?

    I mean if he was yelling my name, and the police officer was standing outside, I might have said: Did you hear that?

  90. thats a great point. why not put the flowers in dp’s yard, where stacy lived? i am sure he wouldnt do anything about it. no, its about sharon and being the martha stewart of bolingbrook. doesnt it bother anyone else that only one other yard sign is visible and its in the yard across the street? one poor sap got talked into buying 10 signs and is trying to unload 9 of them, no one will buy them? bolingbrook is sick of this whole charade.

  91. There is a quote early on (when I thought the sun rose over Sharon)
    “I used to watch TV, now I am the TV”
    …Sharon Bychowski

  92. So she called the police because he was shouting her name, and he continued to shout her name while the police were in the front yard (as stated by Sharon).

    But I didn’t see where the police said they hadn’t heard Drew.

    As far as fear, I am the biggest chicken in the world. If I had called the police on my murdering neighbor, I would not be able to go on camera and talk about it.

    I guess my opinion is that in the video, Sharon did not appear frightened, but that’s because she didn’t act like I would have. I’m not sure that means she wasn’t frightened, just that she didn’t act like I would have in the same situation.

    What does it take to make these people fear this man they think killed two people (at least)?

  93. here is where she denies boycotting tailgaters

    yes this has everything to do with the case. not bashing. this woman is leading the way for drews execution.

    her honesty or dishonesty is paramount

  94. I think Drew and or Brodsky addressed the yelling at Sharon situation in one of their interviews and they said that Drew just wanted to confront her about something she had said to the press. They thought she was being silly and panicking. Drew said he had no intention of harming her (or something like that).

    This is what I remember about it. I’ll see if I can find the quote.

  95. I thought it had something to do with returning the ashes? Drew came out, Sharon was in the driveway talking to at least 2 men.

    Drew said “Sharon” and she ran into the garage, afraid for he life (uh huh). Then the men stood guard there and Drew returned to his house.

    Sharon let the media go with the story of Drew at her back window. Soon it turned into a bigger story for a teaser.

    hahaha well, Sharon IS the news, ya know.

  96. in a court of law when she states she’s honest, id bring the tapes of her denial, ask her if that was her speaking & then show the copies of her written announcement to boycott.

    from there id ask her harder questions & ask if she’s ever lied about anything in the case.

    the more she goes in front of the media the more she actually helps drews case

  97. Husband’s Odd Behavior to Police
    FOXNEWS.COM
    Saturday, November 10, 2007
    A neighbor of an missing Illinois woman filed a police report against the woman’s husband and recalled seeing the mother of two sitting at the end of her driveway in tears a week before she disappeared, she told FOX News. “‘He’s all packed up and I want him to go,'” Stacy Peterson reportedly said, according to neighbor Sharon Bychowski. Six boxes allegedly filled with Drew Peterson’s belongings sat in the couple’s open garage, Bychowski said. A close friend and next-door neighbor of Stacy and Drew Peterson, Bychowski said she filed a police report on Thursday after Drew Peterson showed up on her lawn at 11 p.m. and began shouting her name: “‘Come here, Sharon. … I want you.'” Bychowski, who at times baby-sits the Petersons’ two children and took them trick-or-treating this year, said she is staying in a hotel under a fictitious name to avoid the area and is contemplating seeking an order of protection against the suspended Bolingbrook, Ill., police sergeant…

    …The thing that really concerned me most of all is that he would go into my backyard and do it again, while the police officer’s in the front of the yard,” said neighbor Sharon Bychowski. “That sounds just like someone that’s coming a little unglued”…

  98. But I can not find Drew’s answer to that where he was saying that he just wanted to talk to her about something that she had said.

  99. facsmiley
    just asking ur opinion

    do u think sharon is being completely honest about everything?

    asking respectfully

  100. t.o.sami … the video of Sharon … regarding Tailgaters. This has really interested me and I need to watch it on a better computer.

    Drew is talking about the flyers in the windows and on the grill meant to send a message to him. Then Sharon is on film saying they are meant for anyone who comes in her yard.

    Then Drew says the harassment has escalated to the point where she has asked for a boycott of a neighborhood bar he frequents.

    The reporter says “Sharon denies this” and they go right in to Sharon on film saying (paraphrased): It’s ridiculous to think that the children are bothered by the pictures. I think they are comforted by the pictures of their mother.”

    I can’t tell whether Sharon was denying that the flyers were just for Drew or this was her denying the boycott of Tailgaters but not on film saying it.

    Thank you!

  101. I’m always torn in regards to Sharon. I think that under normal circumstances I might find her annoying and nosy, but then I think that if my husband had killed me I’d be cheering her on from the grave for never shutting up and getting in his face. I’d be grateful for anything that might get him away from my kids.

    She’s certainly tireless.

  102. On Greta she said she did not call for a boycott.

    This was when she was considering another restraining order (it was denied) because he had her garage door opener in his car the day he got it back.

  103. facsmiley

    sure if she was killed by him i can see her being rooted on but shes killing the case when she posts one thing on fsp & says another on national news.

  104. OriginalSami. I know that she asked for the tailgaters boycott and at the time I thought it was a ridiculous and rude idea. I haven’t seen her deny it, but if she did then that was a lie.

    I tend to believe her in regards to her talks with Stacy. Since she seemed to be on good terms with Drew up until the disappearance, I don’t think she has a motive to lie about that.

  105. facsmiley, on May 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Said:
    I’m always torn in regards to Sharon. I think that under normal circumstances I might find her annoying and nosy, but then I think that if my husband had killed me I’d be cheering her on from the grave for never shutting up and getting in his face. I’d be grateful for anything that might get him away from my kids.

    She’s certainly tireless.

    ——

    I’d agree with this 100% is she hadn’t hurt my children by ballbusting their father, putting a shrine to herself in her yard with my picture.

    She’s a regular bobblehead energizer bunny.

    Going on to stardom, a legend in her neighborhood…

  106. facsmiley, on May 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Said:

    I’m always torn in regards to Sharon.

    *********************

    good evening, facsmiley. That was very well put.

  107. i appreciate ur opinion facsmiley.

    me once a liar always a liar.

    she makes better headlines hanging him with her new fan base than if she stayed out of the headlines, didn’t put the kids in jeopardy, didnt harrass, lie & make this about her.

    remember she stated that weeks ago she watched tv, now she is the tv?

  108. Except for those poor saps she’s got tending her garden, and buying her more flowers, (if it gets really big, the news will come!)
    a lot of people are “torn about Sharon”.

  109. Amanda, I gotta say if my husband killed me I’d be cheering her on from the grave is she was ballbusting my husband. I wouldn’t care what tactics she was using, if it got the kids away from him. Especially if my eternal soul was already damned because I covered up the murder of my husband’s last wife. I mean, what would I have to lose!

  110. The flowers, I’m just ‘meh’ about. It gives people something to do that makes them feel good and it’s not hurting anyone.

  111. i have to say i think your neighors would be putting up a shrine to your husband, but thats just my opinion

  112. facsmiley

    but the fact that she’s been caught in lies shows she could be lying about everything including the “she’s been in fear for her life for a long time”.

  113. by the way. the courts, the cops and the jury will care about the “tactics” sharon uses.

  114. sami, let sharon get on the witness stand, see how fast she freaks out and has a nervous breakdown.

  115. Sami, i clicked on the link but I couldn’t find the video where Sharon said that she didn’t call for a boycott.

    I’m not doubting you, I just can’t find it. Am I clicking the wrong link?

  116. Yes they will.

    And poor dumb FSP keeps giving the defense the ammo they will load acquittal with.

    Despite being told a hundred times what real MP sites are all about.

  117. defense atty-so sharon why did u use these tactics?

    sharon-for stacy & the kids for sure

    defense atty-kinda like when u posted the kids were alone in the house for the whole world to see?

  118. It’s not on that link, it was during a Nancy Grace. I was thinking Greta, but iirc, it was Nancy.

  119. facsmiley

    she absolutely denied it on greta

    that was a huge issue when she did. she forgot she posted it on fsp.

  120. Group calls for boycott of tavern
    FRIENDS OF STACY PETERSON

    March 14, 2008
    By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
    BOLINGBROOK — Friends of missing mom Stacy Peterson have called for the boycott of a local tavern if they let her husband inside.

    “Everybody stop going there,” the Petersons’ next-door neighbor, Sharon Bychowski, said of the Boughton Road bar Tailgaters.

  121. thats ok bb plenty of people of copied most all the threats & contradictory statements. too late.

  122. http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/8424…-drew14.article

    Boycott bar if Drew’s there: Stacy’s pals
    BOLINGBROOK | Known to frequent tavern, he scoffs at plan

    March 14, 2008
    BY JOE HOSEY Herald News

    Friends of missing mom Stacy Peterson have called for the boycott of a local tavern if they let her husband inside.

    “Everybody stop going there,” the Petersons’ next-door neighbor, Sharon Bychowski, said of the Bolingbrook bar Tailgaters.

    Peterson has spent a good deal of time in Tailgaters, said Bychowski, a member of the board of the the Friends of Stacy Peterson group.

    Bychowski’s son Roy Taylor, who also is a member of the group, explained the plan for a “peaceful boycott.”

    “We would ask the public that does frequent Tailgaters, if this man does come into the establishment, please take your business elsewhere,” Taylor said.

    The owner of Tailgaters, Bob Zalewski, was doubtful there would be any cause for protest at his business. “I don’t think Drew’s going to be coming in for a while,” he said.

    But Peterson said he would not be stopped by any boycott: “Like that would bother me. They’re not going to change anything that I do.”

    Stacy Peterson, Drew Peterson’s fourth wife, vanished Oct. 28. State Police labeled her disappearance a “potential homicide” and named Peterson a suspect.

    Sun-Times News Group

  123. facsmiley – remember that question you posed last night, when it was you me and “another” poster?

    Thinking the answer to your question is YES.

  124. I’ve said it before … I don’t think all these people involved should be posting, blogging, talking to the press.

    It’s going to come back and bite every single one of them in the ass.

  125. *sigh* (it’s like talking to a child)

    Then, I said that if she denied it that she would be lying and Sami was trying to guide me to the place where she denied it. But I haven’t been able to view it. Someone said it was actually on a Greta show.

    Are you all caught up now?

  126. i have seen both dp and sharon shopping in local grocery stores. sharon has her mink coat on, make up to the max, jewels, dont want to say they are diamonds or not, but all jeweld. striding thru the store like she is royalty, waiting for people to notice her presence. it funny when she is ignored by everyone. if anyone can attend saturday’s fun-raiser, for 25 bucks, notice how she is putting herself on a pedestal. is it lost on anyone else that the lisa stebic walk,they only asked for a 10 dollar donation? and didnt make that mandatory?

  127. That Sharon called for a boycott is not news to me. That she denied it certainly is. The only thing these people should be saying is “No comment.”

    Especially if they think there is going to be a criminal trial.

    BB, you’re going to be a great witness for the defense. Although I’m sure someone from Joel’s office is saving every post ever made on the site we are not to mention.

  128. BB, not every one agrees with the fundraising technique employed. If you don’t like what they are charging, don’t go.

    And no matter how much you ask for as far as donations … Lisa is missing. Stacy is missing.

  129. What could a woman who lives next door to DPeterson have to offer in a trial that would give a jury reason to find him not guilty of a crime of murder? She watched his kids a short time during SPeterson’s initial disappearance. What has that got to do with the possible last moments of SPeterson’s life, and where she is now?

    She has hearsay knowledge. Whether she calls for a boycott of DPeterson’s drinking hole or not, lied about doing it or not, that’s not the home run of the trial, is it? Or the flower shrine? That a neighbor thing.

  130. rescueapet

    hasnt she appeared in front of the grand jury or going to? i really dont know if she has yet.

    shes made statement concerning stacy saying she feared for her life for a long time.

    she made statements that stacy was demanding drew leave.

    she made statements saying stacy told her about the accidental gun shot.

    i guess after that her credibility will come into play

  131. Noway – Agreed about people involved wtih teh case who don’t keep quiet. Is it the lure of fame? A wish to be heard? Most of them have testified before the grand jury – you would think that would satisfy their need to tell what they know about the case. They can tell the rest if it ever goes to trial.

    All these statements to the press are just making them vulnerable if it comes to a trial. And I mean people on both sides.

  132. Yes, sami, you’re on-point with that. But, that’s just it. She has tales to repeat, things to say.

    She has nothing, that I am aware of has ever been reported, that says she witnessed Drew harm Stacy, saw him carry her out, or saw him do something with her body.

    So, she can strut her mink coated self wherever she wants and say whatever she wants. She’s not going to save the day when it comes to convicting Drew Peterson.

  133. I think your posts here will keep you off the jury BB. 😉

    Sharon has said that Drew didn’t know everything Stacy had told her. And yes, it’s hearsay … but since Stacy is missing, everything she has ever said to anyone is hearsay.

    Unless it’s on video. 😉

  134. bolingbrook60440, on May 5th, 2008 at 8:54 pm Said:
    i have seen both dp and sharon shopping in local grocery stores. sharon has her mink coat on, make up to the max, jewels, dont want to say they are diamonds or not, but all jeweld. striding thru the store like she is royalty, waiting for people to notice her presence. it funny when she is ignored by everyone.
    _________________

    Don’t make this all about Sharon. Tell us what Drew was wearing too.

  135. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 9:07 pm Said:
    Yes, sami, you’re on-point with that. But, that’s just it. She has tales to repeat, things to say.

    She has nothing, that I am aware of has ever been reported, that says she witnessed Drew harm Stacy, saw him carry her out, or saw him do something with her body.

    So, she can strut her mink coated self wherever she wants and say whatever she wants. She’s not going to save the day when it comes to convicting Drew Peterson.
    ________________
    Well, she (and the rest of the mob) certainly isn’t doing too much to help the cause in convicting him. It’s really beginning to get very sad…couldn’t go one day just making it about the missing person.

  136. Just a small correction about the ‘funraisers’ and Lisa’s Walk.

    The March 2 fundraiser at Bourbon Street was $30/door, $25 pre-sale.
    Lisa’s Walk donation was $20. The money -all of it- went to Guardian Angels Community Services, and participants got a T-shirt. That event was dignified and solemn.

  137. The only thing that I think that the neighbor’s remarks to LE may have been helpful with is things they may have been able to follow-up on, leads, so to speak, that may have produced “physical” evidence. Short of that, a neighbor can say she saw all the boxes in the world piled to the sky. What’s that going to give a jury? They would rather see shavings of a blue plastic container inside of a vehicle owned by Drew Peterson that LE was able to find. Not what a neighbor is planting on her front lawn, or wearing to the grocery store.

  138. amandareckonwith, on May 5th, 2008 at 9:11 pm Said:
    Just a small correction about the ‘funraisers’ and Lisa’s Walk.

    The March 2 fundraiser at Bourbon Street was $30/door, $25 pre-sale.
    Lisa’s Walk donation was $20. The money -all of it- went to Guardian Angels Community Services, and participants got a T-shirt. That event was dignified and solemn.
    ________________________
    And the serving of beer/wine wasn’t a focal point.

  139. rescueapet

    as bb stated it does go to stacys state of mind. if sharon is stating these things as facts she needs to be credible otherwise it just looks like a lynching.

    courts dont like lynch mob mentality. yes she is just a neighbor but she has professed herself to be one of the closest people to stacy therefore pushing herself into a murder case as a witness to what she says is drews behavior & stacys state of mind.

    personally if she wants drew to be found guilty she needs to stop her posting of b.s. on fsp & keep quiet in front of the media. IMO

    she has claimed herself to be a victim in this. she has claimed threats & retaliation which also goes to drews state of mind. her credibility really is paramount in this.

    she almost seems to come up with something new weekly to make drew look like hes deranged. if i were the prosecutor id advise her to be honest or shut up.

  140. Stacy event…
    Drewbuster bats and pinata with Drew’s face.

    Lisa event…
    Prayer and people talking about Lisa. Dove release, a quiet walk.

    Circus vs Dignity.

  141. can we all agree on one thing?

    on a funny kind of sick note, sharon stating that she is now the tv is pretty darn pompous.

    agree?

    just for the fun of it?

    kind of neat if the board can say there is one thing that we connected on. how about it?

  142. Uh no, actually sami, my TV stands very still.
    Sharon bobbles her head constantly.

    Hard to focus on her as a TV.

  143. well, sami, as far as her claims to threats, maybe LE has a camera pointed at their houses, Peterson’s and the neighbor’s, just as LE has one pointed at another man’s house who’s wife is missing.

    Who knows what LE does and doesn’t do in this case. Maybe they’re watching the whole lot of them. As far as what the neighbor does or doesn’t do, and what the plant people do, again, if that is what it takes to set Peterson free of the crime of Stacy’s disappearance and death, them I’m in total disbelief. A nosy media-loving neighbor just isn’t doing it for me. I think what Peterson did to himself in the media trumps all!

    That still doesn’t take away his problems with KS. Maybe they can’t pin her death on him, but he’s got a whole ‘nother can of worms to deal with, what with opening the estate again and having a wrongful death suit against him.

  144. that was like listening to an insane person. to hear her say i was on tv now i am tv. what kind of maniac says that?

  145. just thought we could have at least one bonding moment even if it were just a moment & then back to the races.

  146. Pompus, maybe. True, YES. And that is sad.

    But reporters know that it gets viewers attention to have Sharon on television. Good or bad. For her or against her. People watch what she has to say and what Drew has to say.

    IMO they should all be quiet.

    I used to think “whatever it took to find the missing person” but I have to rethink that.

  147. well one thing is for sure. sharon and the posse wont be bothering dp much about ks. that would take the limelight off of saint stacy.

  148. That was brave of you to say noway. What do you bet you’re banned soon?
    I guess I was still a member there until I posted here, all of a sudden my screen said I was banned. I didn’t log in, just occasionally read stuff there.

  149. Amanda, banned or not, my life will go on. But what will BB do? No more posts from Noway to keep track of?

  150. the thing i hate the most is that sharon has put herself out there as a victim. she comes up with things on almost a weekly basis.

    if what fsp is stating that drew did it is true then sharon should take a step back & let it be about stacy, not her.

  151. one more thing. how dare the FSP suggest that they include a photo of kathleen savio in the ghoul garden, as a tribute to mothers dady? have you seen the savio family come out in support of this nonsense? they know the pain stacy caused kathleen and what it ended up costing her. they (savios) distance themselves as far as possible from this freak show.

  152. I don’t think anyone thinks of Stacy as a saint. I don’t know anyone who I’d categorize as a saint, and I know some very nice, very sweet, very holy people.

    I believe most of the people on the site we cannot mention believe she was murdered, and murdered by her husband.

    And I will apologize to her should it ever come to light that she is hearing all these news reports where she is referred to as “dead.”

  153. Like I said, if I thought my neighbor was a double murderer, I would not be doing anything I thought pissed him off.

    And I do like the ideas of the cameras focused on his house. I wonder what the range is.

  154. noway

    i think it would be stacy that would or should have to apologize to alot of people.

  155. What kind of maniac goes on national tv, over and over, and disgraces the name of his wife repeatedly, when she is the mother of his children? Husband and wives fight, they separate, they divorce. Nothing new there. But to drag her reputation through the mud on national tv crosses the line of being a man. That is just a sick thing. Whether we’re to believe him or not, he has no self-worth as far as I am concerned.

    Knowing all that he called their mother and said about her on national tv, down to her menstrual cycles, do you wonder what it must have felt like to be the sons of Drew and Stacy Peterson and have to go to school, face their school chums, their friends, with their whole family life exposed, and the rantings of their father about their mother?

    Being a nosy neighbor busy body is one thing. Being a bitter man with a national tv forum to spew his dislike for his wife is another. That just is not right.

  156. t.o.sami, somebody (BB?) earlier said that Stacy might be held against her will and listening to reports but is unable to make contact with family.

    I don’t think she would have to apologize if that were the case.

  157. again why is it ok to drag his name thru the mud, threaten & harrass on national tv & forums but when he strikes back hes a maniac?

    what he says is wrong i admit but what they r saying is wrong also. until he is found guilty none of them on either side should be slinging the filth.

  158. Sorry, I’m not MacGyver.

    Yes, Drew’s behavior on television is questionable to say the least.

    But he has a way of “not wanting to bad mouth” someone and make them sound just horrible. It’s a gift.

  159. but, sami, he was on tv right from the get-go, before there were blogs and forums, no? Didn’t he have the first strike?

  160. t.o.sami, maybe it’s okay to drag his name through the mud because he is a suspect in his wife’s disappearance and she is just the neighbor?

    I’m not saying it’s okay … just that some might think it’s okay.

    And I think he set the tone for the whole “circus.”

  161. yes i agree he was a total idiot. couldnt stand him. still thought they need to have a fair trial though.

    then i saw the other side take over the airwaves & internet & i gotta say boy did it make me sicker.

    i started to see the holes & huge character flaws in the supposed witnesses.

    i keep saying both sides are disgraceful & i mean both sides.

  162. He has convinced me, if nothing else, Stacy was nothing more than arm candy to him. Oh, yeah, but she was a good mother.

  163. noway

    its never ok because if he is innocent what does that do?

    visine?

    pinatas?

    drewbuster bats?

    etc..

  164. I don’t think those people are witnesses. Her sister, the neighbor? Well, about all her sister can do is repeat her phone call times. That can be back up with phone logs. Her sister wasn’t in the house the last time SP was seen, so she’s got nothing to nail on DP. The neighbor? She watched his kids a short time when he ran an errand. Short of that, I don’t know what she could possibly have to say that cuts DP off at the knees.

    Now, the “neighbor” that saw DP and another man “carry out a blue barrel,” that’s another thing all together. Not one peep out of that neighbor. Interesting, isn’t it? Now, that’s a “witness.”

  165. How many people did the equivalen to OJ? He was innocent too.

    I had no part in any of that. I thought it was dog crap that someone was talking about putting in the food. But then, I don’t think I read the whole thread.

  166. Cass stated that she personally saw Drew throw Stacy across the room. If they are trying to show domestic violence, I suppose they would call Cass to testify.

    “Witness” will cover a whole lot of area. Not just someone who witnessed the (alleged) crime.

  167. theoriginalsami, on May 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm Said:
    does anyone know who that neighbor was?

    havent heard much from them.
    _______________
    t.o.sami … FINALLY someone who knows how to keep quiet?

  168. the neighbor who has been reported to have seen them carry out something?

    Nope, not a word. A real, true blue, keep their mouth shut, neighbor. A “witness.”

    Nothing in the press, nothing on tv, no interviews, nothing about a GJ appearance of a neighbor who saw something being carried out.

    Hmmmmm.

  169. Rescue, many people have testified who were not recognizable.

    Maybe the neighbor was among them.

    And as a potential witness, just kept quiet.

    I don’t believe in leaks. I think everything gets out as it is intended by the defense and the prosecution.

  170. Unless Cassandra snapped a pic with her camera phone of DP throwing Stacy across the room, and I’m not saying he did or didn’t, it’s just repeating an opinion. If she can prove it was done on a certain day and that’s a day her sister maybe went to an ER, it’s just “hearsay.” Not much of a witness there.

  171. I’m just saying “witness” doesn’t have to mean that they witnessed the crime.

    They could have witnessed something that the prosecution is trying to get the jury to accept.

    And no it would not be hearsay because Cass witnessed it. If Stacy told Cass that Drew threw her across the room and Cass told the jury, that would be hearsay.

  172. Yes, it would be more believable if there were ER visits, photos, witnesses other than family.

    I am curious as to how many people have testified before the GJ so far and how many more are expected.

  173. Do you remember an incident where Stacy had a fender bender with someone and paid for the repairs rather than report to her insurance company or let Drew know.

    Am I imagining this or is it real?

  174. still looking for comfirmation of the neighbor seeing it. so far can only find that a family source stated that.

    anyone else able to find anymore information?

  175. Rescue, thanks! Thought I’d fallen into a black hole here posting by myself … or that I’d exceeded the allowed number of posts!

    I’ll find that, thank you.

  176. rescuepet

    not trying to be a jerk but remember the trucker? the only reason they could confirm it a lie was because of the trucking logs.
    otherwise the guy would have gotten away with the lie.

  177. if a neighbor saw that & its not sharon obviously because he’s showing respect & class in keeping his face out of the media.

  178. It will be interesting when and if these cases go to trial if the star witnesses turn out to be people we’ve never heard a peep from. People who didn’t think what they knew was important, or who didn’t want to be on camera or talk to reporters, or maybe even people who knjsut understood that it was important to stay quiet unless they were speaking to LE or when it was time to speak up in court.

  179. yeah, those truckers were goofs. There is a third trucker though, you know?

    He was approached BEFORE SPeterson went missing my, he says now, was DP and another man. There’s an actual article about that. It’s very interesting. There’s log data to back up what he says too.

  180. the stranger story is the 1 i was comparing to with the truckers

    my sister got in a fender bender once & called me while she was still there with the person from the other car. she was crying & carrying on that her husband would kill her for denting the new car.

    my brother in law is the sweetest guy & never touched her but thats what came out of her mouth. my 21yr. daughter always says her mom is gonna kill her when shes done something i might not be happy about.

  181. I’m not triying to stir things up here, but weren’t there the two truckers who said they were asked by Drew to carry something – who turned out to be liars, and then another trucker who had a story about being stopped by Drew in a black pickup truck and he was legit (although I don’t think he had any proof that it was Drew)?

    I never really understood why that was significant, even if it was Drew.

  182. hre’s one. I’m also in the middle of a conversation with an aim buddy. I’ll look for more if this isn’t it.

  183. my son used to do that stuff all the time too, with that “my mom is going to kill be stuff.” One time his friend told me that and he told my son to quit saying that all the time, because he was full of it.

  184. It sure seems that a particular admin of a MP internet forum looks just a little bit tan as of late.

    Do I hear wedding bells or a call to the STD hotline?

    I go with the hotline.

    Confirmed!

  185. maybe the fender bender was more im some where i shouldnt be how can i get out of this? just a theory. ive there before in a company vehicle

  186. Interesting about the fender bender. Cass goes on and on about how Drew would not let Stacy have any money and then tells the story about the bell ringer and how poor stacy had no cash to donate to the bell ringer because of the evil controlling drew.
    So how was Stacy going to pay for these car repairs when according to Cass, Drew was so controlling with Stacy she could not have any cash not even a few dollars????
    just another story that makes no sense from Casasandra when you look at the big picture and really think about what conflicts.

    Also good point fiestygurl about the boxes and the garage door opener. It’s very possible the boxes were for the garage sale seeings how Stacy had Sharons garage door opener.

    I agree neither side of this tragedy has any credibility.

  187. * both sides lose more credibility daily. i never understood how cass’s lawyer would think her posting anywhere about the case is a good idea. i hope she doesnt read everything on that board. could you imagine.

  188. I never understood why Cass needs a criminal lawyer to begin with if she has done nothing criminal.

    Also someone mentioned eariler they had been banned from fsp once they started posting here. Strange I’m not a member but now I’m banned as a guest from viewing/reading fsp site..
    How would FSP know what ip address to ban that correlates with someone posting on wordpress when you are not a member of their board??
    I’m sure they have to have tons of guests view their site each day so how on earth would they be able to match a guests ip address up with a poster on wordpress??
    just more things to make you go hmmmmmmm. Maybe it’s not secure to post on wordpress, maybe our info is being shared with FSP?? maybe someone can explain??

  189. oh btw I can view their board as a guest on all machines except the one I post on wordpress with.
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
    so much effort to shut down those who won’t play bash the drew pinata.
    what do they have to hide?

  190. it was stated that cass need a lawyer to preserve evidence that is all i have heard. now that is scary about the ip addresses. makes ya wonder. maybe someone official here will make a comment.

  191. yes that is what was stated and it’s a bunch of baloney. Cass nor her lawyer will NOT be privey to any evidence LE has if LE is on the up and up so therefore no need for a criminal lawyer to try to preserve anything.
    But she did hire this high dollar DC lawyer about the same time she was arrested, so my guess is it had more to do with that and possibly anything criminal she has to hide that this case might bring out.
    yes it does make you wonder what is going on with those that post here and get banned as a guest on FSP.

  192. So, I guess the question now is….

    Danya, are you sharing information, including IP address and/or poster’s information or posts with anyone associated with FSP? (Sharon, Carol, Anthony, etc) or ISP?

  193. I am lost. Why and when was she arrested ? Also if she got a new cell phone how did she pay for that ? Theres too much that does not match up.

  194. Right, there is LOTS that doesn’t match up. Yet these stories were spoon-fed to the media and new-found supporters to get y’all to keep hitting that donate button.

  195. That still does not tell me when Cass was arrested and for what ? I am not hitting the donate button. I wrote to the States Att. for my answers.

  196. Publication: Daily Herald (Arlington Heights, IL)
    Publication Date: 16-JAN-07
    Delivery: Immediate Online Access
    Author:

    Article Excerpt
    A compilation of DuPage County circuit court proceedings of Nov. 22-30.

    Felonies
    Cassandra M. Cales, 21, 218 S. Park, Westmont. Aggravated fleeing a police officer exceeding 21 mph over limit: guilty; 4 days imprisonment, court costs/fines, $250. Resisting or obstructing a police officer: case dropped. Battery-make physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature: guilty; 4 days imprisonment, court costs/fines, $190. Speeding 40 mph or more over the limit: case dropped. Disobeyed traffic control signal: case dropped. Improper lane usage-change lanes unsafely: case dropped.

  197. Freedom, what I’ve read is that Stacy paid for everything with credit cards because Drew wanted to be able to keep track of her purchases. That was why she didn’t have cash on her. She spent plenty of money but it was using credit cards.

    So the phone, the car repairs, etc – credit cards. But she didn’t have folding money.

  198. facsmiley, on May 6th, 2008 at 10:04 am Said:
    Freedom, what I’ve read is that Stacy paid for everything with credit cards because Drew wanted to be able to keep track of her purchases. That was why she didn’t have cash on her. She spent plenty of money but it was using credit cards.

    So the phone, the car repairs, etc – credit cards. But she didn’t have folding money.

    ——-

    Ok so explain how she hid the car repairs from Drew. The was the whole purpose according to the person she hit, don’t turn it into insurance so my husband doesn’t find out.

    Also how was she going to pay the bill for her new phone without Drew knowing about it?
    (which btw was recovered by ISP from what I understand, also her old phone she gave to her step son and the bucking bronco message was found on it)
    so again things are not adding up to what Cass is telling us, IMO.

  199. it seems strange that anyone on here that questions certain behavior of fsp or stacy r now getting banned over there.

    cherry picked for sure.

    that would mean ips might be shared of people not in the awe of stacy. that wouldnt be right & hope danya can maybe shed light.

  200. Freedom08, were you were a member under that same name, and were you banned from FSP? Maybe when they banned “freedom08,” they banned your IP?

    I don’t know how they would know that a certain IP isn’t from a public place (library) versus somebody’s home or office. I’m not clear on how the IPs are generated. st throwing thoughts out there.

  201. oh btw I can view their board as a guest on all machines except the one I post on wordpress with.
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

    How many times will the question, “Are IP’s being shared?”, be asked before there is an answer?”

  202. The only way I can view threads at house of scam is through a proxy.

    Interesting thing today…

    As of now today 2pm, Friends of Stacy Peterson has NO status with IRS as a tax exempt.

    Don’t believe me? Call.
    877 829-5500

  203. so now if drew goes anywhere its stalking. if he has friends he stalking them. this is just outright sickness.

    arent they stalking drew? sounds foolish to accuse somebody of stalking as you follow him around everywhere or have people “watching” him. pathetic

  204. sami, to be honest, reading cassandra’s posts, she doesnt sound too educated. so it could be she is clueless.
    amanda. so what are they doing with all that money they are collecting? is it being reported as income? taxed. they have the dikta dome donated to them, and all the other prizes,etc. so what happens to al that?

  205. looks pretty darn determined on tv asking for funding.

    looks pretty darn strong enough to take care of herself when she answers to drews challenges.

    she seems to know every move he makes. gets right on the tv to answer every move he makes.

    gets on the tv to make her own challenges.

  206. Well, I have no idea who will be liable for the tax bill, but if it isn’t tax-exempt, it is income. Income is taxed, no?

    I do know that people were told they could deduct.

    They are shopping the idea now that a person can be a platinum member by giving $1000 and a few more levels,
    PLUS don’t buy ya mama anything— give it to Sharon oops um I mean give it to the cause.

    Like I said… it is a scam. It was a scam this month, last month, the month before that, the month before that, the month before that, the month before that.

    Don’t believe it?

    Call for yourself.
    877 829-5500 This is the division of IRS that deals with Tax Exempt organizations.

  207. whitewitch07, on May 6th, 2008 at 3:10 pm Said:
    She looks like shes always ready for a good fight
    ————————————————————————

    she was happy to call on cassandras army many times. reveled in the army thing.

    she knows everything thats going on

  208. I’d like to see her and Sharon duke it out.
    They don’t get close enough to one another to fight.

  209. Yeah, but you don’t get a number when you donate.

    Clicking the Paypal button just gives you who the money goes to. Friends of Stacy Peterson, an entity NOT registered with any govt in IL nor the IRS.

  210. oh i know theres no tax #. i fell for the donate plea & got no # but i did get a kicked hard for asking for it & where my money really went. they couldnt hit the ban button quick enough.

  211. As of May 6, no record of them here:

    ttp://www.guidestar.org/

    GuideStar is the registered trademark and operating name of Philanthropic Research, Inc., a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. Copyright © 2008, Philanthropic Research, Inc

  212. its pretty funny, i live in boligbrook and i havent seen one other yard sign expect for the one in sharons yard. yesterday i read that someone had 9 left that she is trying to sell, not one person in the subdivision wanted one. so she is out 90bucks

  213. It’s too long to quote, but here is IL guidelines for tax exempt
    ttp://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/library/what_we_have/readyref/giving/nfp_corp.htm

  214. Here’s a little of it (left undone):

    4. Register with the Secretary of State

    Deliver two copies of the Articles of Incorporation and $50 in the form of a certified check, cashier’s check, or money order to the Secretary of State. When approved, the Secretary of State will stamp the date of filing on both copies and return one copy, with the certificate of incorporation, to the incorporators or their representative.

    5. After Incorporating

    a. One-Time-Only Duties

    1. Register with the Recorder of Deeds: You must file a copy of the articles of incorporation with the Office of the Recorder of Deeds of the county in which the registered office of the corporation is located. This recording must be within 15 days after the Secretary of State has mailed these items, or as soon as possible thereafter.

    2. Federal Employer I.D. Number: Even if your corporation will not be tax-exempt, you should apply for your Federal Employer Identification Number. Almost all corporations will need this number at some point. Form SS-4 from the IRS is the correct form to use.

    3. Register with the Illinois Attorney General: Almost all charitable organizations must register with the Attorney General, Division of Charitable Trust and Solicitations. Information and forms should be obtained from the Office of the Illinois Attorney General.

    4. Inquire within the Post Office about charitable bulk mailing rates.

    b. Annual/Continual Obligations
    These are duties which must be performed on an annual or continual basis, as applicable. We generally recommend a calendar year for the corporation so that it can be set up to ensure that these duties are performed at the same time each year. This ensures that they are not overlooked.

    1. Federal Income Tax: To apply for federal income tax exemption, obtain Form 1023 or 1024 from the IRS. Complete and submit the application with copies of the certificate, Articles of Incorporation, and bylaws. The IRS will contact you regarding their decision and inform you of any annual reports that will be required in the future. You only need to apply for tax exempt status once. Otherwise, your organization will need to file a return each year. Note that although an organization may be tax exempt, it is not exempt from filing other annual IRS forms, even if it is only a small charity.

    This part of the process is somewhat complicated, depending on the size of the organization. It generally takes 3 to 9 months to receive IRS approval. It is very common for the IRS to impose some further requirements and request changes in the bylaws or other operating documents before actually granting tax-exempt status.

    2. Illinois Income Tax: If your corporation receives federal tax exemption, it is automatically exempt from Illinois income tax. No reports need be filed. Otherwise, your organization will need to file an Illinois Income Tax Return each year.

  215. Here’s something the media could focus on:

    Addresses and Phone Numbers

    Secretary of State

    Secretary of State
    Corporation Department
    Centennial Building
    Third Floor
    Springfield, IL 62756
    217-782-7880

    Department of Revenue

    State of Illinois
    Department of Revenue
    Income Tax Division
    P.O. Box 3545
    Springfield, IL 62708
    1-800-641-2150

    State of Illinois
    Department of Revenue
    Sales Tax Division
    101 West Jefferson
    Springfield, Illinois 62708
    1-800-641-2150

    Attorney General

    Illinois Attorney General
    Charitable Trust Bureau
    100 W. Randolph St., 3rd Floor
    Chicago, IL 60601
    312-814-2595
    TTY: 312-814-3374

  216. amanda, that just takes up bandwidth when you post all that., page gets slower and slower to load. better to just use links like you did earlier

  217. media blatantly turns their heads away from total truth or total deception.

    1 agenda only.

    hang drew peterson

  218. by Steve Yuhas
    Natalee Holloway: Where are the Funds?
    December 06, 2007 01:32 PM EST

    tried posting the link not working. try searching this. very interesting.

  219. sounds like this guy has no problem questioning where funds go on a missing persons case.

  220. part of what he wrote:

    How about a story by a network on something that bloggers have been writing about for a year (and no, I’m not talking about why Beth Twitty cannot seem to keep a husband) – be nice. Where is all the money from the Natalee Holloway funds (intentional plural)? Clan supporters say that there were expenses in flying, staying and eating in Aruba, but I know for a fact that many of those expenses were picked up by airlines, hotels and restaurants on the island. So where are the donations?

    When Lacy Peterson, the pregnant woman brutally murdered by her husband Scott in Modesto, California, was still missing and her husband became a suspect there were questions raised about the money collected to find her. The money to find Natalee Holloway was reportedly worth millions and there has been virtually no reporting about where it went, how much was collected and who has control of it

    .

  221. more from article:

    Now there is a story! Forget the next re-re-re-arrest story and start asking questions about all of the cash that people donated to find the missing woman. Outside of bloggers I cannot find one attempt to account for the multiple funds set up to find this woman.

    Who knows, it may be completely true that the money is unaccountable to anyone. But shouldn’t someone ask, particularly people who gave up valuable media time to ask for money?

    I’m not sure if there were conditions associated with family appearances, but the soft balls lobbed at them from some people were amazing, but they are frequently on television – someone just needs to ask.

  222. more again from article:

    Tell me that the same media folks would not be all over this question if there were huge multiple trusts set up to find Stacy Peterson with Drew Peterson at the helm. Peterson is the retired police officer suspected by many in the media and the police, of being involved in the disappearance of his wife, Stacy, in Illinois.

    If you say that the networks would ignore that question fine – I’ll stop asking. If you know they would be talking about Drew Peterson if he was in charge of a “substantial” amount of money donated to find his missing wife – then I’m validated in my query.

  223. what do ya think of this steve yuhas being in the media & actually asking the tough questions bb?

  224. i just want to know one thing. why is it news that dp gets stopped for speeding, again, he didnt get a ticket, but just a warning. why is it none of the other people stopped that saturday-sunday were not in the news?

  225. sami, i think its great, but he is no different than us, he gets no answers either. lol. we have been asking and no answers, amanda proved again they have no tax id number, so are they reporting income. i seriously doubt it. wonder what caro penning is going to do as she is one of the fund raisers for saturday.

  226. but he gets it out to more outlets & even questions if family’s make demands on news agencies that no questions concerning money or they wont be allowed to be interviewed.

    can bet cassandras army has made that their rule.

  227. more of Yuhas:

    Who knows, it may be completely true that the money is unaccountable to anyone. But shouldn’t someone ask, particularly people who gave up valuable media time to ask for money?

    I’m not sure if there were conditions associated with family appearances, but the soft balls lobbed at them from some people were amazing, but they are frequently on television – someone just needs to ask.

  228. they are not going to answer to anyone about all the money they have rolling in. i still am not able to comprehend how you just go out and about in fields searching for a body. and now after how long, they want to enroll in search classes?

  229. bolingbrook60440, on May 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm Said:
    i just want to know one thing. why is it news that dp gets stopped for speeding, again, he didnt get a ticket, but just a warning. why is it none of the other people stopped that saturday-sunday were not in the news

    ****

    Most likely because most people aren’t suspects in the disappearance of their fourth wife and the homicide of their third wife.

    Google is your friend. This guy Drew Peterson is all over the news.

  230. bolingbrook60440, on May 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm Said:
    i just want to know one thing. why is it news that dp gets stopped for speeding, again, he didnt get a ticket, but just a warning. why is it none of the other people stopped that saturday-sunday were not in the news

    Just Selig & co. getting some ” good samaritan”, “That’s just the type of guy he is,” press out to the public. If you notice the Chicago Tribune, and real news organizations like that did not report the “Selig-Brodsky-Hosey” spin, just the facts. Joe Hosey had to include the spin quotes to help sell his upcoming book.

  231. agree bb took my train of thought away but that seems to happen just when the hard questions are being asked about money.

  232. but since when is no news , news? i want to see everyone thats been pulled over this weekend, ticketed or not, on the 5pm news. what a country

  233. Bolingbrook, you were the only one here who threatened to obtain other people’s IP addresses and turn them over to another site. Weren’t you aware at the time that doing so would be illegal?

    And isn’t that what now seems to be going on?

  234. #
    theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 5:12 pm Said:
    now joe hosey is bad?

    No, but why the spin?

  235. #
    bolingbrook60440, on May 6th, 2008 at 5:11 pm Said:

    but since when is no news , news? i want to see everyone thats been pulled over this weekend, ticketed or not, on the 5pm news. what a country

    blame “Selig-Brodsky-Hosey”

  236. spin? oh for crying out loud. sharon & co. have been spinning from the beginning. give me a break.

    didnt the call to get hosey muzzled work?

    call to boycott tailgaters?

    now tanning salon surveillance?

    talk about acting like dictators. spin? what spin?

  237. It’s hard to make the spin work when your client is tossing a wrench into the dryer at every opportunity.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Selig walk after his carefully orchestrated “Father of the Year” spin just slammed into the basement wall.

  238. i think i will take my dogs for a walk before the rain comes. looks like fascist got busy doing what ever someone like her does. ttl sami

  239. theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 5:19 pm Said:

    spin? what spin?

    Well, mostly the last sentence of the Hosey “story” where it says :
    “That’s just the type of guy he is,” said attorney Joel Brodsky.”
    I know most newspaper articles are written so less educated people can understand them…..but c’mon! So transparent. That did not have to be included, a la the Trib.

  240. “theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 5:21 pm Said:
    looks to me like fsp is making the money off of this case.”

    Fsp and dp are a team.

  241. theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pm Said:

    was that a quote from brodsky or not patmccready?

    This quote is from me:
    I know most newspaper articles are written so less educated people can understand them
    Maybe I was wrong, sorry.

  242. theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 7:08 pm Said:
    both r behaving badly. if 1 doesnt get censored none should or censor all.
    ************************************************************

    I think it’s time that the “other” gets a publicist. Seems Sgt. Peterson has been behaving much better since his addition of such.

    They out to try that. They can use the some of the collected monies to pay for it.

  243. patmccready, on May 6th, 2008 at 9:21 pm Said:
    theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 6:56 pm Said:

    was that a quote from brodsky or not patmccready?

    This quote is from me:
    I know most newspaper articles are written so less educated people can understand them
    Maybe I was wrong, sorry.

    ————————————————————————-
    my point patmccready was ur blaming Hosey for spinning & he shouldnt have put brodskys quote.

    would u rather he censored what brodsky said?

  244. theoriginalsami, on May 6th, 2008 at 9:39 pm Said:
    would u rather he censored what brodsky said?

    If you do not understand, fugitaboutit

  245. i understand perfectly. u stated hosey should have skipped brodskys statement. i call that censorship & hosey didnt say it brodsky did.

    u have a problem with a reporter quoting someone, i understand fully.

  246. LOL fiestygurl why am I not surprised!

    LET THE RAVE CONTINUE that will find Stacy

    oh and don’t forget to hit the donate button you know your mother wants her gift going to the friends of stacy peterson!!

  247. OK, it has been a few days now since the question has been presented.

    ARE IP ADDRESSESS FROM THIS SITE BEING SHARED WITH ANY OTHER SITES?

    Myself, I am wondering why there has been NO RESPONSE by the party who would have the
    answer(s).

    If IPs are being shared with one other particular site, IMO it would be a strong indicator that this site is wiilingly acting as a partner to said site in collecting information regarding posters for them.

    The question remains……………

    ARE IP ADDRESSES BEING SHARED?

    The way to get the answer that every single person who posts here deserves, is for there to be no further posts by anyone until the question is answered.

    Although I am not a very active poster here, that is what I intend to do.

  248. I agree bb and I”ve notice posts showing up then disappearing. something is strange IMO that this is not being answered considering gate has been on top of things until this.
    soooo mums the word for me.

  249. I always assumed that Brodsky was making comments on forums in order to stir up the misguided and the gullible (or paying people to do so), but he’s never so blatanly made it clear as he has today.

    Per Brodsky:
    “Go on the blogs and newspapers article comment sections and complain and post.”

  250. ttps://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5166169592714997268&postID=9149613399932217491

    You’ll need to add the initial ‘h’ to create the actual URL.

    The comment is at the end of the pathetic list of the Good Deeds of Drew, which unfortunately have nothing to do with his missing wife.

  251. Oh, can’t get there. I’m having connection problems today. Don’t know if it’s areawide, or local. Can get to some pages but not others. Anyway, thanks for the link.

  252. anyone with half a brain knows that people r blogging & posting all over the place. funny thing is that anyone questioning stacy or family is automatically brodsky.

    thats like saying all pro stacy is cassandra & sharon. ridiculous.

    as for the IP address question. i wondered why it wasnt answered too.

    checking the privacy policy on here would go against that.

  253. I certainly don’t believe that everyone is Brodsky. What I am absolutely convinced of though, is that Brodsky and his aids plant comments in order to get other people riled up.

    I’m sure they seek out people who consider themselves rejected and/or outside the mainstream of thought and then feed them lines, bolster them and incite a lot of speculation and interferance.

    Why wouldn’t they? It’s free, it’s easy, and it’s probably pretty fun to watch an intelligent conversation derail into a trip to wacky world.

  254. agains i say it swings both ways. cassandras army constantly putting the call out to write complaints to anyone that might listen. joe hosey was just a recent victim of planting the seed to rile the army to complain about him. big writing campaign.

    facsmiley its not so outside the mainstream as u think anymore to be disgusted with fsp & to want this man, any person to get a fair trial.

  255. by the way i didnt need brodsky or drew to point out disgusting actions by sharon & co. i saw that all on my own.

  256. You could try accessing through the main page of the blog itself.

    legalpublication.blogspot.com/

    Just add the http:// to the beginning.

    There you can see the place where Brodsky was finally able to pimp out those photos of Tom Morphey that he’s been waving around.

  257. bolingbrook60440, on May 7th, 2008 at 9:33 am Said:
    now sharon is comparting stacy to princess diana. how more insane can this get?

    ur joking again right?

  258. original sami, I heard about the hosey petition but I never saw a thing about it.

    I don’t doubt you, I just never saw it. Was something posted on the ‘other place’? I’m curious about it since a move like that would be such a huge breach of freedom of the press. Plus, Hosey has always appeared to me to be pretty impartial.

  259. I’ll agree that there are fanatics and crazy ideas on both sides. I think that’s what happens when a high-profile case goes on so long without an arrest.

  260. Brodsky again:
    “I could go on for a long time on this issue, as well as spell out the problems that my clients media appearances before I came into the case created, and how our media strategy addressed these issues, (one for example which I call the white noise effect), ”

    I called it ‘interferance’ but Brodsky calls it white noise, saturating the media (via press releases, blog comments, ‘leaks’) with meaningless information like Drew making a sandwich for the kids, or going to the dells, a traffic stop, pinatas, flowers, FSP, Sharon, etc. Anything that isn’t about Drew’s involvement with Kathleen’s death, or Stacy’s disappearance distracts people from the actual issue and helps his client.

  261. I personally think the campaign to out Hosey came because of him asking the questions about the money and exempt status…not to mention the book.

    I can’t help but wonder if Danya has any ambitions of writing a book on this case or any of it’s components?

  262. I think most journalists who closely follow a case would hope to write a book – but it’s kind of sad if that’s your lawyer’s aspirition:

    Brodsky’s law partner, Reem Odeh, questioned the way the case was being managed.

    “I’m concerned that there’s more emphasis and more of an effort to cater to the media frenzy than there is to looking into the issues surrounding the investigations,” Odeh said. “It just seems to me that when there’s nothing going on with the investigation and things are quiet in the media, it seems like sometimes either Joel or Drew says something to start the media frenzy all over again.”

    Brodsky has mounted an aggressive campaign for media coverage, including interviews with national TV shows.

    Asked whether she discussed those issues with Brodsky, Odeh said, “Absolutely. I don’t think it’s appropriate. I think it is in the client’s best interest to keep it quiet and focus on the case. But he just says the case is going to make us famous and we’re all going to get book deals.”

  263. Facs- I see your point on that one…nobody ever said Brodsky was bright…LOL

    I guess ultimately what I’m curious about with regards to this blog, is it being used for “gathering” info on the fallout of the case?

  264. Facsmiley: LOL, LOL, I can’t resist this one. Not only is the direct quote of Brodsky’s law partner a favorite of mine, but I just love this comment he made on that blog:

    “Go on the blogs and newspapers article comment sections and complain and post. Tell them you want the truth, the WHOLE TRUTH and nothing but he truth.”

    Okay – I’m posting my comment for you, Mr. Brodsky. Are you working on being famous and getting a book deal, AS YOUR PARTNER WAS QUOTED IN THE TRIBUNE AS SAYING, or is she a liar? One of you is.

    Oh, and you’re getting paid to be Peterson’s new friend. Don’t insult us with your act that you “know” him. What, all of six months, when he wrote you that first retainer fee check???????

    Oh, you are a masterpiece, Brodsky, a real masterpiece!!!!!

  265. lets not forget sharons quote about watching tv last week & now I am the tv.

    sharon looks like shes being paid to be stacys friend also. until they prove otherwise where all the money is going, i will view her as making money off of the case as well.

    no answer on the IP addresses yet?

  266. In all fairness OriginalSami, Brodsky is Drew’s lawyer so we know they have a professional relationship and we can assume he’s being paid (unless he’s working pro bono), whereas Sharon’s status as friend and neighbor would normally put her in an uncompensated role. The suggestion that she is gaining anything financially from her spokesperson role is only theoretical.

  267. facsmiley
    until they prove otherwise & answer questions about the money, i would suspect otherwise. why not answer questions to where people have contributed?

    if it were their own money id say its nobodys business. since it is peoples money being solicited they need to answer truthfully.

    did u read the article on natalie holloway? funds? same thing.

  268. I wonder if there’s any way we can find out if Joel’s work for Drew is all pro bono. I kind of wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t getting paid at all and it really is all about a potential book deal and his hopes to book celebrity clients (who actually have the $).

    If that’s the case, I wonder what he’s living on! I know they don’t get paid for TV interviews.

  269. i recall he specifically said hes being paid. nothing wrong with that. thats his profession.

    speaking of book deals. just give it time for cassandra, sharon, julie & co. to write some best sellers. lots of pics included of sharon of course. smiling & having a great time.

  270. I feel sure Brodsky is being paid, and probably from the public funds that Drew collected on his website. Since Brodsky said it crashed from so many hits….over a million he said….it can only be speculated as to how much money was raised the short time the site was up and running. To my knowledge, I don’t believe the amount was ever made public, even though it was comprised of public donations. Furthermore, I don’t know if a public thank you was ever issued for the donated funds either, but there may have been one and I just didn’t see it. No, the site didn’t proclaim to be tax exempt, and I would hope that Drew reported it somewhere as income and paid whatever taxes might have been due on it. Who really knows? What I do know is we don’t hear from anyone that contributed to it saying they have regrets of ocntributing, or were glad they did, whether it was tax exempt or not.

  271. heckel and jekyll didnt brag about ANY money collected, did they? so you dont know if they collected a dime. i, for one dont think any of the public would be that stupid to donate. FSP sure has braged about what was husteld at the the last fund raiser, but i bet you anything they dont say anything about how much they get from satrudays circus.
    sharon is benefitting from all the flowers gracing her yard. take a look at all those flowers and tell me money wouldnt have been better spent towards searching rather than inmproving her property? all hail princess stacy, does that make sharon queen of bolingbrook?

  272. Here’s the thing that puzzles me regarding suspicions about the search donations. You would think that if there were any actual problems that complaints would be coming from the big-time donors like Advantage Chevrolet, who has donated over a thousand dollars.

    But they were quoted in the press today, and they didn’t express any concerns with the status of the foundation, or the use of funds. They were just happy to donate.

    In March, the foundation received $10,000 to go towards the reward fund. If there was something underhand going on, wouldn’t that donor be speaking out? But they aren’t.

    Now, do you see why this starts to sound like to some like ‘white noise’? If this problem doesn’t appear to exist for the people who have the most to lose, then it looks more and more like just another non-story detracting from the real issue of a missing woman and the man suspected of making her disappear.

  273. i assure u facsmiley i dont care about advantage chevrolet. i dont care if its 1 cent or $1,000. you take my money from me with a smile when i ask for confirmation its going where u said it is & get a smackdown, then i have a problem.

    i dont care if advatage chev has no problem. i do as well as others. no white noise here.

    so if advantage chevrolet says its ok does that mean it has to be ok with everyone? i dont think so.

  274. No, OriginalSami, it doesn’t have to be OK with everyone. I can appreciate that it’s a problem for you.

    But I can also see why the media isn’t really picking up on this as much of a story, since the people with the most to lose don’t appear to have a problem with it. Since these are corporations and businesses with accountants and legal consultants, they would certainly be in a position to know if there was reason for concern…and they aren’t.

  275. facsmiley, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:11 pm Said:
    No, OriginalSami, it doesn’t have to be OK with everyone. I can appreciate that it’s a problem for you.

    But I can also see why the media isn’t really picking up on this as much of a story, since the people with the most to lose don’t appear to have a problem with it. Since these are corporations and businesses with accountants and legal consultants, they would certainly be in a position to know if there was reason for concern…and they aren’t.
    _____________________

    The media isn’t picking up on because when they’ve tried to…a writing campaign to get them kicked off the story is started, and the reporter is placed on School Board meeting duty. Plain and simple, THAT’s why the media hasn’t covered it.

  276. facsmiley

    i appreciate ur thinking that if the media doesnt report it-it didnt happen or arent enough complaints. just check gretawire & other places & youll see many.

    the media has chosen to take one route & one route only.

    did u read the article i posted on the natalie holloway? i asked u that earlier. might give a little insight as to why certain reporters & more dont want to anger a certain side. just as people r banned when questioned the reporters would be banned from that ultimate “exclusive”.

    certain questions will not be asked by them nor answered by the family which is obvious. even asking about ISP addresses out here has been completely ignored. why?

  277. sorry for the repeat but this is part of a very good article that does mention peterson

    Now there is a story! Forget the next re-re-re-arrest story and start asking questions about all of the cash that people donated to find the missing woman. Outside of bloggers I cannot find one attempt to account for the multiple funds set up to find this woman.

    Who knows, it may be completely true that the money is unaccountable to anyone. But shouldn’t someone ask, particularly people who gave up valuable media time to ask for money?

    I’m not sure if there were conditions associated with family appearances, but the soft balls lobbed at them from some people were amazing, but they are frequently on television – someone just needs to ask.

  278. as far as the people who have the most to lose is a matter of opinion.

    one person giving $10 making very little income might hurt them more than a car dealership giving $1,000. hardly anything to them. IMO

  279. Kimmer, you aren’t talking about Joe Hosey, right? He’s had four Peterson stories run in Joliet Herald-News in the last week.

  280. patmccready, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:43 pm Said:
    To:theoriginalsami,
    Did you donate money to FSP?

    ————————————————————————–
    if u couldnt understand what i wrote-fugitaboutit.

  281. patmccready, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm Said:
    To:theoriginalsami,
    If you have none of your own money involved, then STFU.

    ———————————————————————–

    patmmcgread cant understand the written word.

    fugitaboutit

  282. facsmiley, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm Said:
    Kimmer, you aren’t talking about Joe Hosey, right? He’s had four Peterson stories run in Joliet Herald-News in the last week.
    _____________
    Yes, he has. But he also got his hand slapped for trying to ask the tough questions.

  283. #
    bolingbrook60440, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm Said:

    does it matter, pat?

    Let the people who have a problem with their donated money worry about it. I do not see any of them who do complaining

  284. patmccready, on May 7th, 2008 at 2:02 pm Said:
    #
    bolingbrook60440, on May 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm Said:

    does it matter, pat?

    Let the people who have a problem with their donated money worry about it. I do not see any of them who do complaining
    ________________________
    I’m complaining! I’ve yet to get an answer!

  285. patmccready, on May 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pm Said:
    I do not see anyone complaining except you two.
    _________________________

    One person complaining is one too many. If you are begging for donations, the impression of impropriety should be more than enough reason to release the information.

  286. mcready, maybe they havent had it pointed out to them.. btw i liked it better when you were on under your other screen name

  287. kimmer did u notice an answer about the ISPs yet? wonder if id miss it. bb? have u seen an answer? anyone else?

  288. There is no answer forthcoming about the IP addys, so we are left to assume.

    Ignore questions Danya, and somebody might have the bright idea to start swearing, or insulting. Would that get your attention?

    Mustn’t have bad f-ing language!

  289. theoriginalsami, on May 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm Said:
    kimmer did u notice an answer about the ISPs yet? wonder if id miss it. bb? have u seen an answer? anyone else?
    ____________
    nope. not yet.

  290. silence on that question speaks volumes. ill state that this blog shared ip’s with fsp.

    if im wrong please say so. if im right the continued silence of the question will mean they were shared with fsp.

  291. now how bad would it look if a reporter got involved in a story ala amy jacboson? credibility, zero, employment,zero. is anyone still having trouble getting on FSP? maybe we should find out what happened to pastor shori? dayna was the one that verified it was him, correct? so why would he say, oh, my time is up here, like some angel sent down to straighten us out?
    and never returns? why didnt he go to FSP and blog there?
    i am logged onto FSP right this minute as a registered user. so i dont think ip addres are getting shared. for one, they can only get your ip when you are logged on, registered. dont confuse isp internet service provider, like yahoo,sbc,att,aol. for your ip address. thats a address like your street address. when you are registered on FSP you can see your ip when you post a comment, but thats only visible to you and admin.

  292. i can get on fsp as guest when im at another location.

    only thing i do different on this computer is wordpress. never had a problem getting on as guest until i posted here. now cant view fsp on this computer.

  293. bolingbrook60440, on May 7th, 2008 at 2:59 pm Said:
    sami, what exactly happens when you try?

    ————————————————————————–

    sorry guest u r banned from this forum.

  294. same thing-sorry guest u r banned from this forum.

    i hope this doesnt mean that danya is working for fsp.

    if not & ips are given to them i hope its an equal opportunity.

    for every drew basher danya should give ip’s of those to brodsky.

  295. Joe Yovino
    Website Manager
    (630) 368-8897
    E-Mail Joe Yovino

    John Koys
    News Editor
    (630) 368-8913
    E-Mail John Koys
    havent found a direct line for danya, but these guys should be able to help

  296. thanks bb ill give them a try. hard to understand why danye wont answer a simple question. a question anyone who has posted on here has the right to know.

  297. no, if danya was giving up ip for them to ban, i should have been the first to go. but then again, when they ban one ip, i just get a new one and go back on. so far i have been “banned’ 2 or 3 times i think. LMAO.

  298. im not the only one thats had trouble since coming on this blog.

    danya not answering is not a good sign either.

  299. way way off topic but you wont believe this. this morning, around ten, my internet was acting just a little funny, after doing some tweaking it was working fine. check out this story. this is like 5 minutes if that, from my house. lol. this tower fell between the tractor and the tank of this semi. tractor i mean the truck part where the driver sits. that space is maybe 3 feet four at the most. what a miracle. its nothing to do with stacy or dp, but so frigging cool. no one hurt

  300. sami, didnt the trouble just start a couple of days ago, when they did that maintenance, but i dont get why i can still get on.
    where is danya?

  301. This is Joe Yovino, the Web site editor for Suburban Life Publications. We have NEVER nor will we ever share IP addresses. As long as you adhere to our terms of service, including staying on topic about the Peterson case, you are free to comment on this site. Unfortunately, this is often not the case and those people will be banned from commenting. Suburban Life Publications has no ties with FSP other than the standard practices of a source for gathering news information. Any questions, feel free to call.

  302. OMG, laughing, even though this is so pathetic. Now you’re hunting down a news reporter like a pack of animals.

    Did it ever occur to you that the news reporter you’re hounding WORKS for this media outlet? First bolingbrook60440 hounded Pastor Schori until it was satisfied he was he was the real deal. Now you’re hounding a reporter.

    Do you think the editors of this publishing company give a hoot about your mob mentality? You should really step away from your keyboards, because you’re losing your grips. Threatening with boycotts of this blog, and threatening to begin using swear words to get attention? Throwing out insinuations that they are sharing IP addresses with a forum you’ve made the main focus of this blog? DEMANDING that the reporter answer you. Who do you people think you are, really?

    I suppose it has not occurred to any of you that for quite a few days now, this blog has narrowed down to just a chosen few, and I’m looking at them. There’s nothing to discuss here, just a place to watch a pack of wolves circle the wagons.

    It apparently has not occurred to any of you that the suits that run this media outlet and this board have other areas of interest in their work, and not just answering to the whines of the likes of you. Now you want them to answer to you for a blog THEY run? You’re kidding, right?

    In case you haven’t noticed, you’ve violated pretty much every policy rule this blog tried to set. Personal attacks, other forum mentions and names, attacking people that don’t post here.

    Since this blog is no longer a Peterson discussion blog, and since a few of you have turned this into a cesspool of hate, I don’t expect to be reading your vulgarities much longer.

    sami, bolingbrook, amanda, kimmer. Guess freedom is boycotting.

    So, what will you do now? You know, since you haven’t gotten an answer to your DEMANDING question?

    I think you boycotting this blog would be an outstanding contribution. Take your mob mentality to a blog where they’d appreciate your tactics.

    Oh, my, I’ve given you fodder for another two days of ranting and raving. Have fun!

  303. Great, sir, now maybe deleting their rule violating posts for now on can turn this into a reasonable place to blog. However, sir, I’d suggest you get your hardhat on because, knowing this pack, they’ll be gunning for you.

  304. gettofftheroad

    i believe that asking if IP addresses are shared is a valid question.

    asking for an editor to stop someone from posting because they hurt their feelings is not. this has been asked of gatehouse many times.

    personal attacks? show me where I personally attacked u here? i can cut & paste away the many insults hurled towards me & others but we didnt go running to gatehouse for that.

    if there r violations i would hope gatehouse would treat everyone the same and not discriminate or pick & choose certain posters for violations yet let others slide. either all stick to the rules or none post.

    u actually had to write a page of rants because we’re asking about privacy subjects?

  305. sami – you’ll spend the next two days coming after me now ‘with your crap. Come on. Didn’t take you 30 seconds. If you don’t have your focus forum to attack, you go after anyone who turns it on you. Grow up.

  306. excuse me getofftheroad i believe it twas u my dear that launched the attack 1st.

    as for coming after u for the next 2 days. understand u r not important to me but im sure im important enough to u to continue with ur tirade.

  307. wow, that pretty funny, i called joey yovino, and he is out of the office, now how in the f could he have posted that ,then immedialely, getofftheroad posts that rant? some bull spewing somewhere.

  308. just like trying to track down shori. i took danya’s word that she verified it was shori on here, now this joey guy doesnt answer his phone

  309. Yeah, BB I think you’re on to something. It’s all a big government conspiracy, brought about by the liberal media and those darn feminazis, working together with neighbors of Stacy Peterson with only one goal. To personally go after you.
    The Most Important Person Ever.

    This is your moment. Shine on.

  310. If you post at Kimmers and on here and FSP do not use the same name as Kimmers. Do not post on Kimmers that you also post on fsp and tell your fsp name. Sonia a major FSP poster is a member of Kimmers. Sonia is the garden girl.

  311. i just tried calling shori’s office, first the lady answering says he is in, asked for my name, then she comes back and says he isnt there. i think i am done with this nonsense. just too weird for me. danya wont come on here. mystery joe comes on,doesnt answer his phone. crazy getofftheroad goes nuts with accusations. pretty cray for a first timer anyway. oh well. maybe brodsky should check this out after all

  312. getofftheroad, on May 7th, 2008 at 4:10 pm Said:
    you called facsmiley what, bolingbrook?
    _____________________________________
    F A S C I S T

  313. Paranoid Schizophrenia
    by Michael Bengston, M.D.
    April 4, 2006
    The defining feature of the paranoid subtype is the presence of auditory hallucinations or prominent delusional thoughts about persecution or conspiracy. However, people with this subtype may be more functional in their ability to work and engage in relationships than people with other subtypes of schizophrenia.

    People diagnosed with the paranoid subtype may not appear odd or unusual and may not readily discuss the symptoms of their illness. Typically, the hallucinations and delusions revolve around some characteristic theme, and this theme often remains fairly consistent over time. A person’s temperaments and general behaviors often are related to the content of the disturbance of thought. For example, people who believe that they are being persecuted unjustly may be easily angered and become hostile.

  314. thanks for the heads up. no telling how many names they use. look at GETOFFTHEROAD who knows where that comes from. danya, no reply, joey, no reply, shori, no reply.
    fascist, big time reply
    getofftheroad, way way big time reply

  315. ah, ah, ah, personal comments to a blogger that isn’t talking to you is a no no. Or do you have multiple personalities on here? Hmmmm???????

  316. Here comes another “psychiatrist” ! I am sorry for you guys who had your “brushes” with psychiatric care and now you see in everyone a psychiatric pathology. Deeply sorry…..

  317. when a blogger starts using the telephone to call other bloggers, isn this case, Pastor Schori, solely for their wn prsonal reasons based

  318. Hey, WE all want to know the truth if Father Schori posted here so it’s not a “personal reason”.

    If you like, I can accept LOL “personal collective public reason” LOL Trying to follow your logic… where I ended! 😮 LOL

  319. when a blogger starts using the telephone to call other bloggers, such as in the case of Pastor Schori, seems to me he should start keeping a log, with the caller’s name, and come back here and post it. I should think that if bolingrook is going to give his real name to Pastor Schori, Pastor Schori should share it with us. Got caller ID Pastor?

  320. Did any of them email you Pastor Schori. Because their IP addresses will appear in their emails, and you might want to jot those down too. Seems to me these bloggers are on a personal vendetta to intimidate you.

    As to the reporter and web man, how long are you going to allow his loose cannon to continue to strong arm your blog?

  321. #
    gatehousechicago, on May 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm Said:

    This is Joe Yovino, the Web site editor for Suburban Life Publications. We have NEVER nor will we ever share IP addresses. As long as you adhere to our terms of service, including staying on topic about the Peterson case, you are free to comment on this site. Unfortunately, this is often not the case and those people will be banned from commenting. Suburban Life Publications has no ties with FSP other than the standard practices of a source for gathering news information. Any questions, feel free to call.
    ———

    thank you sir, as I stated earlier I had my doubts that this blog would share that info and I appreciate the response.

    I am not boycotting, yes I did say mums the word until I got an answer from the blog admin.
    I will say that it’s pretty creepy and a very unsecure feeling to know that not only myself but others that are blog here and read as GUEST with no account on FSP are banned from viewing as guest and to top it off only the machine they post with on wordpress. That fact alone makes me very uncomfortable posting out here as it tells me this is not a secure site.
    Call it what you want I really don’t give a poot what some ranting poster claims.
    So as I stated before it is puzzling and there is an answer to as to why and how this can happened.

    Again Joe thanks for your response.

  322. To: theoriginalsami, bolingbrook60440, amandareckonwith, kimmer78, fascinatingtermsofdeservice, and a few others. Do some research on “social engineering”. The answers to most of your questions lie there.

  323. So, any news yet on who’s going to be testifying before the Grand Jury this Thursday?

    Also, has there been a resolution as to whether the 2 Savio-Peterson boys will be testifying? A judge was to decide whether or not the subpoena would be adhered to or if it would be quashed as the DiP appointed lawyer for the boys has requested. Last I heard, the judge was still deciding- and I haven’t seen anything mentioned about it since then.

    Anyone know?

  324. Hi basherette. Last I heard about the teen GJ thing, there was a hearing on 4/29, but haven’t seen anything else since then. I assume there might be something on the Will Co. Court Docket, but that might take some time to go through to find the next date if the judge continued the hearing.

    Thursday is always an interesting day to see who’s next to appear.

  325. You know, when you think about it, nothing is ever really mentioned about witnesses in the KS matter. That’s still going on to, I assume.

  326. The only thing that shows up for Kristopher and Thomas on the Will County court docket are for the estate matter, which is 5/22. Nothing else is on there, so it doesn’t look like that got continued for another hearing. Hmmm.

    Maybe it was resolved, but which way, who knows?

  327. No, I think if the hearing regarding the validity of the subpoena for both boys to testify before the Grand Jury was resolved, it would be known by now- too much public interest in the case for it to go unreported. Considering the boys have been granted immunity, I fail to see why DiP would NOT want them to testify- if he is innocent, that would be a no-brainer.

    Regarding the witnesses for the Savio case- the Grand Jury that is meeting for the Peterson case is also doing the same for the Savio case. It seems reasonable to me that several of the witnesses for the Peterson case would also be giving testimony about the Savio case. It would also be likely that some of the Savio witnesses would not be as recognizable to reporters as the witnesses in the Peterson case, thus making it appear to the public that not much is going on testimony-wise for the Savio case.

    At least, that’s my impression about the whole enchilada.

  328. I didn’t know anyone got kicked off here. I thought that the mods just removed some offensive posts?

    Been ill, so wasn’t able to post. Guess I missed something?

  329. “fascinatingtermsofdeservice, on May 7th, 2008 at 6:57 pm Said: Your comment is awaiting moderation. ”

    This is the fastest way to kill a forum. It happened before. Most of the posters here come from those “killed” forums.
    Guess it’s time to find another forum to “kill unwillingly”
    Goodbye!

  330. Sorry to hear you were sick, basherette.

    Well, you never know, maybe tomorrow will be the day that the teens will be appearing before the GJ. Guess we’ll have to wait and see. Not that we’ll hear what went on, but maybe that would be the final set of witness and they’ll wrap up.

    We shall see.

  331. sorry to hear you were ill, baserette
    fascinatingtermsofdeservice, sorry too
    another one bites the dust. what a shame

  332. I know that some posts with links were being sent to spam by accident, and the mods were fetching them and posting them as fast as they caught them. I know that the offensive posts were being removed by the mods- but I haven’t seen that anyone who posts here was banned.

    Can someone catch me up please? What’s going on?

  333. keeponkeepon, on May 7th, 2008 at 7:20 pm Said:
    hey, sami, they didnt get rid of you?

    —————————————————————————

    no, why-they getting rid of people? for what?

  334. several given the boot. banned like on fsp. getofftheroad has big time clout it seems. glad it wasnt me.

  335. for crying out loud. holy cow. what r they trying to hide? really what the heck has come that people r not allowed to speak up that a man might be innocent until proven guilty. or that things BOTH sides do are questionable at best.

  336. Original Sami on one of my previous posts, was “attached” that comment. I assume some fsp people reported my post. (I’m guessing you may not see that post until the Mods here “approves” it )
    I found to be disrespectful to posters and to the “rules of journalism” to have only anti-fsp posts “moderated”. The law “all or nothing” will bring impartiality to this forum, until then the only difference between this forum and fsp it’s: the Mods here are more educated/know how to spell! LOl
    See you all on Greta’s OUTRAGED!

  337. what is the scariest part is these r not just regular folks blogging but news reporters doing this.

    i would ask respectfully if the moderators here allow both sides of the issue to be spoken about.

  338. bolingbrook60440 booted, no posts allowed. onlythefacts,booted, no posts allowed. couple of others too sami. only happened when getofftheroad got on and started ripping in to everyone.

  339. has to make you wonder. joey yovino gets on and says he is gatehouse and blah blah blah. then, getofftheroad gets on, just seconds after joey. and blasts everyone that doubts whats going on, boom, posts removed, people banned. what does that tell you? guess i am on my way out too.

  340. Huh. Well that’s weird. I can understand that they removed certain posts, but actually banning someone? And unfairly?

    I dunno- it is much more likely that a poster who repeatedly refused to abide by the rules here, even after being warned, was then booted.

    And that would be completely understandable- so why complain about it?

  341. i just copied and pasted everything and sent to hosey, he is on a different paper, see what happens there. daily herald. maybe this turns into craig stebic/amy jacobson LMAO

  342. keeponkeepon how do u know bolingbrook was banned? others? very wierd thing having reporters ban freedom of speech. ironic isnt it if its true.

  343. I think Hosey is more interested in actual news, than in people who repeatedly troll the comments thread on a blog.

  344. facsmiley

    again the definition of troll can cut both ways. some of us have had good discussions out here only to have someone come on & slam from left field with insults. who would the troll be then?

  345. Facsmiley – thanks for the link earlier today. Internet service was all jazzed up today, but I finally was able to get to that post by Brodsky.

  346. sigh! well I’m done with this place.

    it appears it’s OK for fac and a few others to continue to throw their insults around and not others are banned for it.
    besides knowing that being on this site has enabled some ill will person to use their hacking skills to obtain my ip adress and use it at fsp to ban me from guest reading.
    have fun, I’m just so thankful a court of law isn’t a circus like I have witnessed concernng this case and the stomping of our constitiutional rights.
    to all I have enjoyed discussing this case on this board I wish you the best.
    To those trying to stomp on ours constitutional rights
    see ya don’t wanna be ya!

  347. freedom08, on May 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pm Said:
    sigh! well I’m done with this place.

    it appears it’s OK for fac and a few others to continue to throw their insults around and not others are banned for it.
    besides knowing that being on this site has enabled some ill will person to use their hacking skills to obtain my ip adress and use it at fsp to ban me from guest reading.

    _____________________

    So much for the ADM at FSP being computer literate. If your banned, just go to google and type in the search ; FREE HIDE MY IP
    It will give you a bunch of links that you can then type in the website you want to surf. 😉

  348. freedom

    a story of a blog ran by reporters censoring the right to freedom of speech would make an interesting peace.

    i hope theres a better reason why.

    if its because of insults. ive been slammed by insults here so i hope they are banned as well otherwise its peculilar for sure.

  349. wow what a story. u always hear reporters screaming freedom of the press, freedom of speech so i hope people arent banned because they differ in opinion of bashing drew.

  350. Well, it IS their blog, so if you want to post here, you need to follow their rules.

    The rules have been repeated often enough that every poster should be aware of them.

    If someone repeatedly ignores the rules, then why shouldn’t the blog owners ban them?

    There is no conspiracy here- it’s as simple as it can be:

    Follow the rules, or don’t post here anymore.

    Why is this concept so hard to understand for some?

  351. Fact is, he worked side by side with Ann Rule! She is the woman who works with numerous police departments all over the country and has written many true-crime non-fiction novels. She is extremely insightful and her writing is very detailed on whatever case she writes about. Hopefully someday she will write Stacy’s “story”.

  352. Are we allowed to post “other Stacy forums” here? Gatehouse? My site is a respectful site to post if anyone is interested.

  353. basherette, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:15 pm Said: There is no conspiracy here- it’s as simple as it can be:

    Follow the rules, or don’t post here anymore.
    __________________________________________
    but how many sets of rules, hi sami LOL

  354. There were many warnings. I’m ready to move on.

    I’m not surprised that Drew was helpful to strangers. But I guess it’s more interesting that the people closest to him don’t seem to have anything nice to say about him.

    His partner from the BBPD wants nothing to do with him and has stated it publically. The chief of police says he’s an embarrassment to the force and tried to fire him before he could retire. His son won’t speak to him, Mims walked away and says that Drew scares him. His next door neighbor who babysat his kids wants nothing to do with him and states she’s afraid of him.

  355. basherette

    im questioning as to why drew bashers r allowed to insult anyone perceived to think all people r innocent until proven guilty r not banned.

    believe me some nasty insults were hurled at me & others. are they banned too?

    those were the rules werent they? i didnt see 1 rule state that only one side of the case is allowed to be discussed. didnt see where only drew bashers were allowed to insult. where is that rule?

    as for being their blog i still say its ironic that reporters would censor anyone from speaking about the entire case not just about how to hang drew peterson or how much a person hates him.

  356. cfs7360, on May 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pm Said:
    I feel sure Brodsky is being paid, and probably from the public funds that Drew collected on his website. Since Brodsky said it crashed from so many hits….over a million he said….it can only be speculated as to how much money was raised the short time the site was up and running.
    _____________________-

    Cfs, I don’t believe ANY money was donated. Fact is, his site went up and back down just as fast! Stupid idea of Brodsky. Among a host of other ones he’s had.

  357. Lavanda, Brodsky loves to talk about his expertise at spinning the media. I’m sure time will tell, but he seems to have pulled quite a few clunkers. “Date with Drew” has just got to end up being one of those things they talk about in law classes from now on.

  358. facsmiley, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:26 pm Said:
    Lavanda, Brodsky loves to talk about his expertise at spinning the media. I’m sure time will tell, but he seems to have pulled quite a few clunkers. “Date with Drew” has just got to end up being one of those things they talk about in law classes from now on.
    ________________________

    I know. Good gracious. What a dunce!

  359. watch how fast i get banned when i mention
    GETOFFTHEROAD
    LMAO.
    its really so petty though. thats all i need to say and i am gone. what a joke.
    danya is going to be in the same unemployment line as amy jacobson i hope, and soon.

  360. mcd60532, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Said:
    basherette, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:15 pm Said: There is no conspiracy here- it’s as simple as it can be:

    Follow the rules, or don’t post here anymore.
    __________________________________________
    but how many sets of rules, hi sami LOL

    *****************************

    Are you responding to me or to sami?

    As far as the rules go, the set of them has not changed since they were first posted, and they’ve been posted all over this blog for everyone to see.

    Their blog = their rules.

    I still don’t see why there is confusion about this.

  361. why did danya never answer the questions asked? joey baloney came on and gave the word from way up high, whats up with that?

  362. the confusion basherette is that if there r rules for everyone that fine but if its only directed at one group thats censorship something reporters normally scream about.

  363. Basherette, I see it like you are visiting someone’s house for a dinner party. You have conversation, people disagree, tempers flare and your host tells you what is or isn’t going to be allowed.

    If you keep breaking the host’s rules and then top it off by trying to tell them how they should run their house, then threatening them, you get thrown out. That shouldn’t be surprising to anyone.

    At that point, putting on a disguise so you can sneak back in and insult them some more…well, I’m all out of metaphor when it comes to that.

  364. mcd60532

    have no idea mcd. if they were being censored theyd be screaming for the reporters jobs. as long as the rules dont apply to them theyre happy. if they only applied to them theyd be outraged & rightfully so.

  365. mcd, I think you’ll be hard pressed to find a discussion forum, blog or even news story comments thread that does not have rules to be followed.

    They don’t need to allow us anything beyond what they want to. I’m actually surprised that the don’t just disable the comments here, since they’ve gotten so nasty.

    If you want more freedom of expression, you could always start your own forum or blog. There are a lot of free sites that will allow you to do that.

  366. facsmiley

    we both have tried to be civil to each other. thats why of all people i thought u would see that its not the rules we disagree on, its the uneveness of the rules. applying the rules to one group & not the other would not make u happy if u were part of the group that got censored.

  367. theoriginalsami, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:23 pm Said:
    basherette

    im questioning as to why drew bashers r allowed to insult anyone perceived to think all people r innocent until proven guilty r not banned.

    believe me some nasty insults were hurled at me & others. are they banned too?

    those were the rules werent they? i didnt see 1 rule state that only one side of the case is allowed to be discussed. didnt see where only drew bashers were allowed to insult. where is that rule?

    as for being their blog i still say its ironic that reporters would censor anyone from speaking about the entire case not just about how to hang drew peterson or how much a person hates him.

    ****************************

    I also believe that people are innocent until proven guilty, and I haven’t been banned from ANY site.

    I also had some outrageous insults tossed at me here- a few of those posts were removed by the mods, but a majority of thm still stand today.

    Someone on a blog wants to insult me. Oh, well. So what? Doesn’t mean I have to stoop to their level. I just move on. If something gets hurled at me that I find too reprehensible, then I can always email gatehouse about it, and leave it in their hands. If I take the “bait”, so to speak, then where does that get me? How does it benefit a discussion about these cases when people have reduced this blog to nothing but a place to vent their emotions by hurling insults back and forth at each other and anyone else who has the misfortune to attempt cogniznt discussion in the midst of what basically amounts to a temper tantrum even a 2 year old would be dazed by?

    Best to just leave the trolls to the mods, and try your best to keep conversations on track. No matter what opinions get voiced, it IS very possible to make your point, repond to, and, as needed, agree to disagree with others, WITHOUT resorting to making personal attacks or grossly inaccurate and unfair generalizations.

    At least, that’s what I believe, and hope for.

  368. I really want to believe that half of you here are like minors just having fun. Then I say well if they were minors they would be on myspace or listening to music or chasing a girl/guy. So really there is no excuse for half of you here. The half of you need to hope and pray that you or someone you love has the problem of dealing with the law because if they do I hope they are fried without question. MANY OF YOU HAVE ALL FORGOTTEN WHAT OUR NATION IS BASED ON and you are probably the same people who complain about the illegal aliens.

  369. I am going to sleep tonight hoping that all of you who have convicted and who do not believe in innocent until proven guilty end up in the same boat or close to or a family member or a kid or someone you care about ends up exactly there.

  370. Oh My Stars!

    Can’ t we all just put on our polyester and platform shoes and do Night Fever Line Dance?

    Good Bye
    Gene Gene
    The Dancing Machine

  371. I’ve read all of May 7th posts. They’ve been interesting to say the least. Facsmiley… you crack me up. You were so right on… especially the psychological stuff you posted. It was a fun read. LOLOL

    I think the idea of the little boys getting their own blog to throw tantrums on is a great idea. I’ve been reading the same gripes from them for the past 3 days. I’m surprised they’re not as bored with themselves as I am, with them. I wouldn’t allow anyone to bash or flame me or my site either. You don’t have that right. It’s not about freedom of speech. It’s about the owner have the “freedom” to pick and choose who they want to post on their site. It’s kind of like “free-will” employment. If a boss doesn’t like the color of your hair or a freckle on your face, he can fire you without explanation.

  372. As far as innocent until proven guilty… I totally agree… AND… I also agree with Law Enforcement… you know… the guys that investigate this stuff, like police officers, FBI, detectives and the like. THEY’VE declared DP a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance. THEY have said they don’t believe she left willingly. THEY have spoken out and said that THEY don’t believe there was ever a boyfriend that she ran off with.

    I think that a lot of people suspect him of murder… I’m among those who do. I, also think a lot of people just don’t like the two-timing, child preying, narcissitic, self-centered person he is. I don’t like him… and I don’t like his goofy, side-kick, ambulance chasing, lawyer.

  373. lavandadolce, on May 7th, 2008 at 8:24 pm Said:

    Cfs, I don’t believe ANY money was donated. Fact is, his site went up and back down just as fast! Stupid idea of Brodsky. Among a host of other ones he’s had.
    __________________________________________

    Lavanda, you are probably correct in your assumption about no money being collected, and I hope you are. That website was an unbelievably stupid idea on Brodsky’s part, but I had read where Brodsky said they had met their “short term goal” so I didn’t know for sure if anything was collected or not. Just sounded as though he was saying they HAD received some donations. Maybe another untruth from the Peterson camp?? There were several sites that said this, but I posted one below, which you may have already seen.

    http://www.kwqc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7489595

    I hope that if Brodsky lied about it, it will be investigated for credibility’s sake.

  374. And before anyone attacks me for my previous post….. Yes, I am aware that there have been “untruths” in the Stacy camp as well, so there’s no need to bring that to my attention. Thank you in advance.

  375. cfs

    why do u take it as a personal attack if someone points out untruths on the other side 2?
    u have the freedom to point out untruths on brodskys camp to us. am i wrong?

    thinking others have just as much right to point out untruths in the stacy camp.

  376. Sami, I don’t take it as a personal attack. Just stated there was no need to point it out to me because I am already aware…that’s all. What’s your point?

  377. Sami, as I expected, and thus the reason for my post about “not attacking me” someone would probably write and say exactly what you said. I agree there are inconsistencies on both sides, and I’m aware of all, or at least most of them. There’s no need to jump on me or any other poster when they post something about one side or the other. I totally agree that we ALL are entitled to express our varied opinions about this case. Just because my post happened to be about Brodsky and Drew this time, I expected a negative reply to it, which I received. Some things are very predictable on here. Have a nice day. I’ve got to get back to work.

  378. I had a whole rant in my head last night about the “innocent until proven guilty” idea that was brought up here. I was going to march out the hypocrisy of all accusations that have been made here with absolutely nothing to back them up (and there was quite a list), besides the paranoia and resentment of some people who feel themselves misused, and then I thought, “Meh.”

    Because, the truth is, I did call some people on these accusations and they stated that they didn’t care about the lack of evidence but preferred to make noise and shout injustice until they saw proof otherwise. So, this camp actually takes a ‘guilty until proven innocent ‘ stance – 180 degrees from what they claim to be their whole reason for getting all in a huff.

    BTW, I emailed Joe Hosey about something that I’d been hearing about for the last week or so (not forum baby behavior). I’ll let you know if I hear back from him.

  379. Hey listen up! facs have you made dessert yet?

    This is too precious not to share.

    hopingtheyfind
    Search Staff
    Member

    Posts: 57

    Desserts needed!
    « on: Yesterday at 09:26:04 PM » Quote

    ——————————————————————————–
    Hey everyone, Seth here with one quick update-

    The “Fun” raiser is this saturday at the Ditka Dome in Bolingbrook starting at 5 pm. We hope that each and every one of you can make it out for this event. Right now, the 46 Zone and the Ditka Dome are handling all of the food for the event but the desserts are our responsibility. I’m personally making 20 or so dozen cookies (whatever the batch ends up making) and bringing those with. If you are attending the event and could possibly bring a dessert item to share it would be greatly appreciated (Sharon seems to like cheesecake on a stick, fyi) but any and all dessert items are welcome.

    Thanks for your time and your continued support and we hope to see you all at the event on Saturday!!!

  380. cfs7360, on May 8th, 2008 at 9:02 am Said:
    Sami, I don’t take it as a personal attack. Just stated there was no need to point it out to me because I am already aware…that’s all. What’s your point?

    my point is that u feel the need to point out only untruths from brodskys camp. id say its ok to point out from all camps without anyone taking it personally or if they dont like it saying dont point it out. as long as lies r being pointed out which is fine. both sides r open to scrutiny. thats all.

  381. cfs
    why is it that if i counter a statement its “attacking”? if u counter a statement, its seems as though its not “attacking”? whats up with that?

  382. Sorry folks, I’m going to continue to follow the rules and not post about other forums, talk about people on other forums, nor be baited.

  383. theoriginalsami, on May 8th, 2008 at 9:29 am Said:
    cfs7360, on May 8th, 2008 at 9:02 am Said:
    Sami, I don’t take it as a personal attack. Just stated there was no need to point it out to me because I am already aware…that’s all. What’s your point?
    ________________________________________

    my point is that u feel the need to point out only untruths from brodskys camp. id say its ok to point out from all camps without anyone taking it personally or if they dont like it saying dont point it out. as long as lies r being pointed out which is fine. both sides r open to scrutiny. thats all.
    __________________________________________

    Sami, in the first place, you don’t have a clue what I need to feel. In the second, you and several others do such a good job of pointing out the untruths of the Stacy camp to all of us that I don’t have to, but if there was something I wanted to point out that you haven’t already, I certainly would. End of discussion.

  384. Have the Naperville police issued a statement as to whether they did leave a woman alone on the street?

    Do they take your car when they arrest you for DUI?

    Why couldn’t she have driven her boyfriend’s car?

  385. I saw an interesting approach that Brodsky has taken in the last few days. He has gotten a legal blog to post a picture of Tom Morphey, and Brodsky is claiming that it i”shows” that he is not “clean” of drugs, and the picture was taken last year. In fact, here’s his “statement” on the blog:

    “Finally, just so its clear. Tom Morphy is not in protective custody. He is in rehab for severe drug, and alcohol problems and for his mental illness that cause him to be suicidally depressed. If the state police did not cause his brother to put out a false statement that Tom was clean since the mid 90’s we would not have released the pictures we did which show him doing drugs last year. Drew has to counter false evidence planted in the media by the state police. We cannot let the state police plant a false rumor that Tom has been clean for a decade.”

    I just don’t know how you can look at that picture and see that he’s “doing drugs,” and that it “shows him doing drugs last year.” How does he come to that conclusion? He doesn’t say, he doesn’t back up his claims, so how and why is he using this tactic to help his client? I just don’t get it.

  386. Rescueapet, it makes you wonder who took the picture! Was it Drew? Does anybody know where they got the picture from?

  387. noway – I would think that the Naperville police don’t owe anybody an explanation about the status of this woman once her boyfriend was taken into custody. It’s all mere speculation what happened, and if they had to answer to mere speculation over every traffic stop, I would imagine they’d be pretty busy with that alone. LOL, if she has legal recourse for being left “stranded,” maybe she should hire a lawyer. I’m sure she KNOWS of one in particular might be able to help her out.

    As long as she wasn’t the one driving the car, they’d have no justification for taking her into custody. I haven’t seen either, one way or the other, whether she was given a ride to the NPD police station or not. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn’t. It’s all spin.

  388. Rescueapet, I agree that Naperville police don’t *owe* anybody an explanation, but their silence would make it appear true. IMO

    And not every traffic stop in Naperville makes national news or is the topic of forums and blogs nationwide, do they?

    I wondered why she didn’t drive the car. I mean, the police have taken her boyfriend for DRIVING under the influence. Where did the car go? Do they have them towed when the driver is arrested?

    I’m just not seeing the damsel in distress unless she doesn’t know how to drive.

  389. noway – I think possibly there was either open liquor in the car, or something else, to give them a reason to tow the car. If there was something else, that car just might belong to the NPD real soon.

  390. Noway, Brodsky stated the car was towed and the girl was left alone. Still haveing a problem with that myself.

  391. cfs – Brodsky states a lot of things, like this latest statement about Morphey being a recent drug abuser, according to the picture he’s had posted online.

    So, as with a whole lot of people in this mix, things get said that leave you wondering!!!

    Seems to me, at the end of the day, if this is brought to trial, the lawyer that comes across as the most credible, with the most convincing information to offer, is the one that is going to get justice. Either side, either way. Hmmm?

  392. Thanks rescueapet. I wasn’t sure why she had to call anyone if she had access to the vehicle.

    I do question why the police would leave her there. I know they had no reason to take her in, but to leave her there alone … did they know that someone was coming to get her?

    If something had happened to her, this would be coming back to bite Naperville police in the butt. As it is, IMO they never thought a simple DUI would get this much publicity!

  393. Rescue, according to the blogger there was a second picture of a man with a pipe which they chose not to publish.

    Brodsky is doing what he’s been doing from the start, trying to discredit witnesses who may testify against his client. Tom Morphey’s story is a compelling one. I think they have a lot to fear from it, and I think the jury will find Tom to be a credible witness. Hence, the pimping out of photos that they hope will make Tom appear to be a drug user.

  394. noway – like I said, she could have very well been left “stranded” at the Naperville Police Department. Can’t say one way or the other.

    The p.d. is on a street. She could’ve been left stranded on the “street” in front of the police department. May yes, maybe no. There’s just not a whole lot of adjectives describing that street by Brodsky. He certainly isn’t clarifying just what he means by “stranded on the street,” is he?

    If I was in front of my house, without my car, I would consider myself stranded on the street too, LOL.

  395. I guess the only story about this is the story that Brodsky provided.

    There must have been an actual DUI arrest and tow; otherwise, the Naperville police would be saying “Excuse me, Brodsky, what the heck are you talking about.”

    If it is their policy to leave anyone stranded at 2:30 a.m. anywhere in their city, they need to rethink their policy. They are opening themselves up for a lawsuit.

    I do feel for this girl that she was so desparate that the only person she could think to call was Drew. Yes, he was a police officer at one time, but as a friend of a friend, she must know of his current troubles.

  396. Rescue, I’ve said from day one, it’s all about the attorney that presents the best case…..just hope that justice is served however it turns out.

  397. facsmiley – Seems to me Brodsky is taking a chance with that picture. If he’s not the picture taker, then he is relying on someone else’s “accusations” about it. That being the case, Brodsky is taking responsibility for making statements he can’t prove, IMO.

    So, IF it turns out that the picture he is saying (these are his words) shows him using drugs last year, and that is not the truth, then me thinks he’s losing any credibility as a legal advocate on behalf of his client. Being a liar yourself to defend your client doesn’t make you any better than he.

    JMO.

  398. I don’t think the Naperville police face any issues over leaving this person (if she existed) at the side of the road. They could have offered her a ride to the station and she declined because she wanted to call a freind for a ride. Also, let’s not assume we’re on some dark country road. She may have been right outside a bar.

    There’s too much unknown about this incident for me to even want to say much about it. Everything we know about this girl is based on quotes from Brodsky, and Brodsky is not speaking as a private individual in this case. He is speaking professionally on behalf of his client. Everything he has to say in that context should be considered a calculated media move.

  399. cfs

    as with u getting tired of things being repeatedly pointed out. i feel the same way. we can agree on that.

    now that drews traffic stop has been pointed out. what can we move on to? or shall we repeat it over & over again. just wondering.

  400. Noway ‘s comment: If it is their policy to leave anyone stranded at 2:30 a.m. anywhere in their city, they need to rethink their policy. They are opening themselves up for a lawsuit.

    With all due respect, noway, you base that “lawsuit” theory on what? I’m sure Brodsky would’ve been all over that like white on rice if that were true.

    I’m just not caring anymore about where she was left, or why. It’s a non-issue for me. She was in a car with someone under the influence, by whatever means, and she was in danger from that alone. At least she was still in one piece to be able to call her hero.

  401. This is running slow for me!

    Yes, rescueapet, it’s all in the details! I guess we could ask joel a. brodsky for the whole truth.

    I had pictured her stranded where they pulled the boyfriend over. But stranded on the street could be exactly as you described (at the pd without a ride).

  402. Rescue – remember that Brodsky doesn’t have to prove anything the says to the media. He’s not on trial and never will be. He doesn’t need to be credible since he’s not a witness. That’s why all the outrageous stuff comes from him. He’s doing his job.

    Drew is the one who needs to watch his words, which is why Brodsky hovers over him in interviews.

  403. Well, there is a big difference between stranded on the street in front of the police station and stranded on the street pretty much anywhere else. At least she could have waited IN the police station.

    As someone said, spin … spin … spin. It’s all in how you say it.

    Willing to move onto something else … just not about any other forum and what they are doing, please.

  404. Sami, come on!! How many other posters do you see here discussing Drew’s traffic stop? Why address your post to just me? Besides, I never said I was tired of anything. Your words not mine. As I said, END of discussion. I’m signing off now. Be sweet Sami.

  405. What a crock! The police would NEVER have left her stranded.

    Until I hear/read LE’s version of the events, anything that JB utters regarding this is just a load of unsubstantiated bullpuckie.

    DiP to the rescue, indeed- NOT!!!

  406. BTW, I think if Drew ever is charged and either case goes to trial, that Joel won’t be representing him in the courtroom. I think they will probably go with someone who is a more accomplished trial attorney. So…even more reason for Brodsky to say and do anything in order to discredit witnesses for the opposition and to garner favor for his client – even if he ends up looking like a creep or a buffoon. If in the end his client wins, he’s a winner too.

  407. Yup, and it’s not up to Drew Peterson to prove anything. It’s up to LE to prove he’s involved in “two” murders, or at least one and the disappearance and presumed murder of another.

    As to Brodsky – yes, I suppose he can say anything he wants. But, I can’t help but think (1) his reputation among his peers must mean something to him, and (2) he has to have some credibility and trustworthiness with a jury to help convince them his client is not guilty, especially when the possible evidence shows otherwise.

    You can rest assured they’re not going to have bloggers who watch these cases like hawks on that jury. They’re going to be jurors who have little to no knowledge of any of this pre-media crap. But I THINK I can be relatively assured that many of the things Brodsky is throwing out there are going to be fodder for his opponent, since he’s the one doing all the talking. Mums the word so far from LE and the State’s Attorney.

  408. Agreed- there’s NO WAY in H + E + double hockey sticks that DiP is going to have JB as his numero uno defense lawyer…

    Maybe as his REAL lawyer’s file clerk, but NOT as his main defense atorney.

    Even someone like DiP isn’t THAT friggin’ stupid.

  409. Yes, and that, apparently, is Attorney Abood. However, since Attorney Abood shows up at hearings as he has, and is a co-counsel (I’ve seen pictures of him right alongside Brodsky), I think it’s safe to assume that what comes out of Brodsky’s mouth and fingers is aok with him too. So, if Brodsky is putting out the word that he has a picture of Morphey that “shows” him doing drugs last year, Abood is going along with it.

    So, what makes him any better/worse than Brodsky?

  410. Wow, I’d really hope no one who posts on these fourms would be on the jury! I’m sure that will be one of the questions during jury selection.

  411. rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 10:23 am Said:
    Yup, and it’s not up to Drew Peterson to prove anything. It’s up to LE to prove he’s involved in “two” murders, or at least one and the disappearance and presumed murder of another.
    _________________________
    Do you think that he can get a fair trial? In Will County? Further down state?

  412. OMG – Brodsky is either nuts, or someone is posing as him. He posted on that LP blog that the bloggers are “demanding to look at the other picture” he sent them, showing Morphey “smoking a pipe.”

    Doesn’t even spell the man’s name right. Spells it “Morphy.”

    There’s not one post that I could find that “demands” anything of the sort. Oh, man. I’m not believing what I’m seeing.

  413. IMO they will move the trial (if any) to Michigan. Yes, Abood is the lawyer DP has hired, and he is licensed in MI with special allowance to practice in IL.

    I do think they will be able to find jurors who have not been blogging and posting.

    No matter what anyone has heard about this case, as a juror, they can only base their decision on the evidence presented during trial.

    Am going to head to new link. Cannot stand the time it takes for my thread to post here and then have to read 5 or 6 that have posted along with mine!

  414. kimmer78 – Scott Peterson was a nationally known case, yet, his lawyers were able to pick jurors they felt comfortable with. It’s all about the jurors. Maybe they lie about their feelings, I guess, but they better not be lying about something they can get called on later. I wouldn’t want to take the chance of facing possible criminal charges solely to convict or free a possible murderer based on my feelings for him!

    If someone lies to get on a jury to sway a verdict, God help us all, huh?

  415. REscue, i see that comment and I kind of wonder if all those comments that claim to be from Brodsky are real. For instance:

    ******
    Joel A. Brodsky said…
    I believe the cadaver dog hit is just another unsubstantiated rumor in this case. I don’t ever recall seeing a dog on any of the video tape of the police coming in and out of searches of Drew’s house. Does anyone have any hard evidence to back up this rumor?
    ******

    Hasn’t everyone here seen photos and video tape of the dogs at the house? How could he not know that? The result was that someone just posted a link to photos. Is that really what Brodsky wants? That doesn’t seem so smart…

  416. LOL, facsmiley, you’d think that the real J O E L B R O D S K Y (I did spell that correctly) would know how to spell the last name of a potential witness he’s trying to discredit on national tv and on blogs? How ignorant can you be.

    It’s M O R P H E Y, not M O R P H Y.

    shaking head.

  417. If the dogs hit on anything, then that’s forensic evidence and I imagine it will be brought up when and if the case goes to trial. I’m just confused as to why he’d want to bring up forensic evidence in a public forum. There’s no way to confirm or deny that the dogs found anything, but he questions the fact that the dogs were even there. It’s pretty easy to confirm that the dogs were there.

    It’s just weird.

    As for not spelling the name right, that could just be a typo. We’ve all done that.

  418. feistygurl – what are you talking about? I don’t understand the cryptic message. I can’t debate something I don’t know the meaning of.

    facsmiley – he brings up stuff because he totally clueless as to what LE has, I think. He’s on a public fishing expedition to see what he can find out. For example, he says he knows of no video, etc., of the cadaver dogs getting a hit at Peterson’s house. Yet, someone did post a picture of a dog at his garage (I assume it’s his house, I have no proof it was). He knows what we know, which is just about absolutely nothing.

  419. I repeat:

    facsmiley, on May 8th, 2008 at 10:37 am Said:
    Hopefully, the jury will make their deliberations based on the evidence presented in court.

  420. On second thought, why did I even answer a baiting question with an equally childish remark? My mistake.

    Rescueapet……….

  421. rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am Said:
    I saw an interesting approach that Brodsky has taken in the last few days. He has gotten a legal blog to post a picture of Tom Morphey, and Brodsky is claiming that it i”shows” that he is not “clean” of drugs…….I just don’t know how you can look at that picture and see that he’s “doing drugs,” and that it “shows him doing drugs last year.” How does he come to that conclusion? He doesn’t say, he doesn’t back up his claims, so how and why is he using this tactic to help his client? I just don’t get it.
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    Brodsky’s actions are not only “below the belt”, however, it is also quite apparent to me that he has extreme poor lawyering skills. Case arguments are made in a courtroom…not in a public forum. Publicly displaying a photograph of an individual along with “unsubstantiated statements” is setting himself up for a lawsuit. Further, does Brodsky hold a “fair use” privilege to have posted the photograph? Did he obtain a photographic release? I highly doubt it. I think Thomas Morphey has a good lawsuit against Brodsky for invasion of privacy and right to privacy and unathorized use of his photograph. What Brodsky did is totally unethical and he is carving his way to being banned from any reputable lawyer groups…and possibly risking his license from the bar, himself. Can someone post a link to this “blog” where this occured?

  422. rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pm Said:
    On second thought, why did I even answer a baiting question with an equally childish remark? My mistake.

    how true

  423. lavandadolce
    does that photo carry a copyright? fair use privilige? doesnt that apply only to copyright material? maybe brodsky is a hack, but i dont think he is so stupid as to do somthing so blatant.

  424. Care to join in, ioncrime? You’ve got my attention. I’m sure you’ll find a lively debate here.

    Sorry, ioncrime, but your first post was a little startling. May I ask why you started off with that, rather than jump in and over some constructive views?

  425. can anyone moderating this site step in and put a muzzle on RESCUEAPET? i have only made an observation and he/she is baiting/bashing.

  426. rescueapet, on May 5th, 2008 at 5:01 pm Said:
    Oh, stop it with the FSP crap. That’s old already. FSP tactics. Then go play somewhere else if you don’t like it. I’m sick of you guys dragging that FSP stuff here. Gatehouse is sick of it.
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    HERE, here, the only sane person posting on this thread!

    I don’t come here often, but when I do, it’s the same disgruntled people repeating the same garbage over & over & over.

    If you all have such an axe to grind about Sharon or any other website, you might consider getting some therapy for your obsession!!!

  427. Facsmiley… with all due respect…

    That is what will happen should this go to trial. None of us posters, or lurkers, on any of the Peterson Blogs, would be on that jury… so we get to be the “court of public opinion.

    Remember…. jurors DO NOT decide over guilt or INNOCENCE. They decide over guilty or not guilty due to reasonable doubt.

    The well known phrase of “innocent until proven guilty” is also followed by “in a court of law”…. it doesn’t say “in the court of public opinion”

    That’s why they go through hundreds, if not thousands, in some cases, to find a pool of jurors that don’t show bias. We bloggers would not pass the muster on that issue, no matter what side we were on.

    Trials often come down to the jury instructions given by the judge. There are a lot of jurors that feel the defendant is guilty, but because of the jury instructions, can’t ballot that way.

    I think Brodsky and Peterson are on a campaign to cause reasonable doubt in people who may end up on a jury pool.

    Many people can be on the jury if they’ve only heard of the case, but have not become fanatical about following the case or formed an opinion…. like I have 🙂

  428. jurorthirteen. I can’t tell what comment of mine you are responding to.

    Earlier I stated that I certainly hoped anyone who posted on these forums would be excluded from jusry selection (because most of us are biased) and later I stated that I hoped the jury will make their deliberations based on the evidence presented in court.

    So I’m not sure if you are disagreeing or….what.

  429. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:36 pm Said:
    can anyone moderating this site step in and put a muzzle on RESCUEAPET? i have only made an observation and he/she is baiting/bashing.
    ______________________
    (Quote: ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 1:16 pm Said:
    there are only 3 posters on here, and all in favor of hanging dp and brodsky?)

    I think rescueapet just made an observation. I did read your first post here “ioncrime,” and I have to agree it was an eyeopener! 😀

  430. juror13, if you are making a reference to my ‘innocent until proven guilty’ vs the ‘guilty vs proven innocent’ rant, that had nothing to do with the Peterson case . You’d have had to have been here the last few days to see what all that was referencing. There were many accusations flying around about this blog, the people posting here and the people running it.

    But that’s appears to be over for now.

  431. rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm Said:
    oh, great, more torment.
    rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:38 pm Said:
    Sorry mr. ioncrime, as long as I play by the rules, I stay.

    torment? please, cant anyone with some sense that moderates on here, look at the baiting and bashing? i have only made three comments, and look how its snowballed. now its called torment? i gave a valid intelligent response to lavonda. why am i being addresed as MR. perhaps thats the reason only 3 or 4 people dare post on here?

  432. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm Said:
    does that photo carry a copyright? fair use privilige? doesnt that apply only to copyright material? maybe brodsky is a hack, but i dont think he is so stupid as to do somthing so blatant.
    _______________________

    Highly doubtful the picture has a copyright and that would be the argument if it were used for monetary gains or advertising, etc. The fact that he posted a photograph of another subject, without their permission, brings up a whole host of possible lawsuits. Depends on how far Morphey wants to take it. And yes, he is that blatant. He tried with all his might to hope that Greta would have zoomed in on that photo when he was on her show.

  433. If JB is saying that we shouldn’t trust what someone who has had a history of drug problems says, doesn’t that eliminate trusting a good portion of the people who have stepped up for Drew?

  434. no, lavonda, check again. the photographer owns the image and can use it editorialy as he/she pleases. as i said earlier, do you think brodsky, no matter what his education, knowledge, would dare to post pics he knows he is doing so illegally? can he be that stupid?

  435. facsmiley, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm Said:
    jurorthirteen. I can’t tell what comment of mine you are responding to.

    Earlier I stated that I certainly hoped anyone who posted on these forums would be excluded from jusry selection (because most of us are biased) and later I stated that I hoped the jury will make their deliberations based on the evidence presented in court.

    So I’m not sure if you are disagreeing or….what.

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    I apologize if I’ve pointed to the wrong poster, Facsmiley. I love your posts. I thought it was you who was pointing out something about “innocent until proven” guilty.

    So whoever said that, or thinks that… my last post is for you…LOL

  436. lavonda,
    The presumption of fair use is that when “things” (people or objects) are in public view, they can be used in any manner that is protected by The First Amendment.

  437. I’m curious about the picture of Tom Morphey. I saw the post on the FSP site, and went to the link.

    How did everyone else, here, come across it?

  438. Regarding the photos of Tom Morphey I think privacy laws would get you farther than copyright or fair use. The concern isn’t that you are taking someone’s creation and using it for your own gain , but that you are publishing someone’s image without their permission.

    I’m not sure how the law works there. If the photo was taken by a pal with your permission and they then distribute it, you may not have any right to dispute that.

  439. noway406, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:55 pm Said:
    If JB is saying that we shouldn’t trust what someone who has had a history of drug problems says, doesn’t that eliminate trusting a good portion of the people who have stepped up for Drew?
    _____________________________________
    those that step up for “innocent till proven guilty, are they who you mean? a good portion of people that dont hold your view are people with drug problems? drug users?

  440. Juror13, the only picture of Tom Morphey I saw was on Legal Pub … did not see the one with the pipe although I have heard mention of it. Don’t know if it has been made public somewhere or just that it exists.

  441. I was curious, because the person who posted it at the other site, posted what the blog said, left the link, which would be normally suitable, and then made remarks about how awful it was that the Blogger had put up Mophey’s picture.

    I was curious and looked, like most of us have.

    But, then, I thought that by posting the topic and leaving the link to his picture…. didn’t the poster contribute even more to the showing of that picture?

  442. No, ioncrime, I mean those that have stepped up and said Drew is a standup guy, a jokester, etc.

    I don’t think anyone is going to disagree on innocent until proven guilty *in a court of law” … but there isn’t anything in the lawbooks about innocent until proven guilty on a public forum, so we continue to voice our opinions.

    Hmm … you would get along well with another poster. Wish I could remember who it was who kept harping on the “innocent until proven guilty” thing.

  443. Kind of a sticky wicket if you want people to discuss something that you don’t think people should have access to. 🙂

  444. what prosecutor would bring morphey to the stand? pictures of him or not, defense would put him thru so much that it would be pretty ugly, so what are we debating?

  445. BTW… I think what Brodsky did, made it look worse for Drew Peterson, and himself, and it didn’t accomplish what he was after. Morphey looked fine to me.

    I have pictures of myself with a drink in my hand, celebrating… does that make me an alcoholic?

    It makes me a partier…LOL

  446. jurorthirteen, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm Said:
    Remember…. jurors DO NOT decide over guilt or INNOCENCE. They decide over guilty or not guilty due to reasonable doubt.

    The well known phrase of “innocent until proven guilty” is also followed by “in a court of law”…. it doesn’t say “in the court of public opinion”
    ____________________________

    You’re absolutely correct, Jurorthirteen. If it were against the Constitutional Rights of a party, certainly the media would not be gathering a panelist of lawyers to discuss their views either. (eg: Greta, Nancy Grace, etc.)

  447. I think JB put the photo of TM in the public’s eye in the hopes that the public would “demand” to see the other photo.

    When that didn’t really happen, JB (if that who really is posting on that other place) faked the demand.

    I’ll have to back and see if he answered the post requesting that he provide a link to the posters “demanding” to see the other photo.

  448. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:09 pm Said:
    what prosecutor would bring morphey to the stand? pictures of him or not, defense would put him thru so much that it would be pretty ugly, so what are we debating?

    Well, I’ll be glad to debate your question. Should this go to trial, I think they would definately put Morphey on the stand… he appears to be a main witness.

    Do you know him??? Do you think he wouldn’t hold up well under the pressure?

  449. lavonda, i dont know why you bring that up, in the court of public opinion. is that what you are saying should convict dp?

  450. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:13 pm Said:
    lavonda, i dont know why you bring that up, in the court of public opinion. is that what you are saying should convict dp?

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    Scroll up and read….
    jurorthirteen, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm Said:

  451. IMO, Morphey will be an absolute star witness. Believable, emotional and credible, with firsthand testimony of highly suspicious activity (including a $2000 payoff from Drew) and that’s why Brodsky is going after him.

    I’m not in the “Brodsky is dumb”. I think everything he does is a calculated media move. It may not always work, but he’s certainly doing what he can.

  452. the defense would eat morphey alive. when they get done, morphey wouldnt have a shred of believablity. they would pound him in the ground, bring up every little thing he ever did starting with going in his diapers. are you kidding me? brodsky is not going to be the lead defense if it goes to trial.

  453. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 3:56 pm Said:
    no, lavonda, check again. the photographer owns the image and can use it editorialy as he/she pleases. as i said earlier, do you think brodsky, no matter what his education, knowledge, would dare to post pics he knows he is doing so illegally? can he be that stupid?
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    One cannot just use images “editorily” as he/she pleases and with that image make personal damaging statements as Brodsky made…”as he or she pleases”…and rest in comfort in assuming that one will not be taken into a court of law. There is no doubt in my mind that Thomas Morphey has a case. It will now be up to Brodsky to substantiate the claims, the proof of the photo “date”, and to provide evidence towards all the statements that he made regarding Thomas Morphey. Is he that stupid? Yes, in my opinion. I believe he purposely throws stuff out for people to converse and in essence it is what he is using to build his defense. A smart lawyer would have maintained that “so-called” evidence and used it for argument in a courtroom. 😉

  454. well , lavonda, then you should become morphey’s lawyer and sue the pants of brodsky. now that i would pay to see in court.

  455. noway406, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:11 pm Said:
    I think JB put the photo of TM in the public’s eye in the hopes that the public would “demand” to see the other photo.

    When that didn’t really happen, JB (if that who really is posting on that other place) faked the demand.

    ********

    Yes! It was actually kind of funny. Like he waited a day for people to ask for it, and when they didn’t he couldn’t stand it any longer and just started saying that they had.

  456. facsmiley, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm Said:
    IMO, Morphey will be an absolute star witness. Believable, emotional and credible, with firsthand testimony of highly suspicious activity (including a $2000 payoff from Drew) and that’s why Brodsky is going after him.

    I’m not in the “Brodsky is dumb”. I think everything he does is a calculated media move. It may not always work, but he’s certainly doing what he can.

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    WOW! I new he’d been paid some money and tried to give it over to his neighbor when he told him about the blue container, but I missed the amount.

    I thought it was only a $100/or so…. but 2K…??? WOW!

  457. facsmiley, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm Said:
    IMO, Morphey will be an absolute star witness. Believable, emotional and credible,
    ___________________________________
    OK, so the jury will hear about suicide attempts, drug use, misc arrests, spousal abuse? yep, let the jury hear all of that. star witness, you bet. LOL

  458. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:09 pm Said:
    what prosecutor would bring morphey to the stand? pictures of him or not, defense would put him thru so much that it would be pretty ugly, so what are we debating?
    _________________

    Of course they will bring him to the stand and justifiably so. As you know, there are far worse people who are brought to the stand for the defense and for the prosecution as well. To “stop” the debating is very closeminded when in reality there are also others who are supportive to the claims Tom Morphey made that will also be summoned. Giving the entire picture to a jury is what will transpire and it’s up to the jury to determine if Tom Morphey is reliable, or not. My guess he is not only reliable, but will also make an excellent witness for the prosecution…previous drug and depression issues…and all.

  459. we can only wait and see if it comes to trial. la prosecutors had way more on oj, didnt they? its going to be interesting.

  460. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:21 pm Said:
    ___________________________________
    OK, so the jury will hear about suicide attempts, drug use, misc arrests, spousal abuse? yep, let the jury hear all of that. star witness, you bet. LOL

    And they will hear that he went to his friend, told the story… and…. who knows… they just might believe him.

    Here’s the question… why would Tom Morphey lie? That’s what the jury would want to know.

  461. Yeah, I thought that was kind of funny too when he said the bloggers were demanding to see the other picture. Huh? I didn’t see one post where anyone even brought it up. Now, that was funny.

    And LP is supposed to say “how high” when he says “jump.” I don’t think so.

    I assume is wayward picture didn’t get the interest he anticipated.

  462. or they might not. how do you know or presume to know whats in morphey’s mind? what he thinks is true and what isnt? it will come down to credibility, wont it? you already see how dirty the defense is playing, come on!!. do you think dp and brodsky are spending a dime on finding stacy? they are spending every cent on digging up dirt.

  463. I can’t remember Tom’s friend’s name. Was it Mike? The one Tom talked to right after the incident?

    He’ll be a witness, too. I do wish he’d keep his mouth shut, though.

  464. I also don’t understand why he doesn’t know how to spell the name of a man he is setting out to search and destroy in the public opinion polls. That doesn’t exactly make him look too smart. That, and the fact that in the original “interview heading,” the blog people changed his adjective from “excellent” attorney to “creative” attorney. Chuckle, chuckle.

  465. rescueapet, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:31 pm Said:
    I also don’t understand why he doesn’t know how to spell the name of a man he is setting out to search and destroy in the public opinion polls. That doesn’t exactly make him look too smart. That, and the fact that in the original “interview heading,” the blog people changed his adjective from “excellent” attorney to “creative” attorney. Chuckle, chuckle.

    I hadn’t noticed that….LOL That is funny.

  466. Digging up dirt is what they do, defense attorneys do. It’s not up to Peterson to prove anything. It’s up to LE to do it. Peterson just needs to knock down the claims. That’s the way it is, like it or not.

    Just a shame we’ll not be able to see the inside of the courtroom, assuming Peterson is charged.

  467. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:21 pm Said:
    OK, so the jury will hear about suicide attempts, drug use, misc arrests, spousal abuse? yep, let the jury hear all of that. star witness, you bet. LOL
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    Since the “star witness”, and you’re assuming he would be the “star” one, has nothing to gain…the jury would be most understandable towards one who has had mental depression, suicidal thoughts..yes, even misc. arrests/spousal abuse could be overlooked…folks with much worse in their life history have been overlooked and merely because they have no reason to lie and nothing to gain by telling all.

    Let’s also not forget there could be physical evidence to substantiate the claims of Thomas Morphey, such as an eye witness of the neighbor who reported the “man and barrel”…an eye witness to DP/TM in the coffee shop or park…such as TM’s fingerprints in Drew’s vehicle that he rode in that night…such as possible videos dated/timed from the coffee shop…possible video’s enroute to wherever Thomas reported from other camera’s that may have captured DP/TM together or in the vehicle…add to that the cell phone ping from the towers to substantiate TM’s story…. (remember…we are not all privy to just what the ISP may have. Not even Mark Fuhrman.)

    Just because TM has had a problematic life doesn’t mean he is lying. A jury would be smart enough with the gathered evidence to determine. Thus…”its not a debate” is ridiculous and closeminded.

  468. ioncrime, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:29 pm Said:
    or they might not. how do you know or presume to know whats in morphey’s mind? what he thinks is true and what isnt? it will come down to credibility, wont it? you already see how dirty the defense is playing, come on!!. do you think dp and brodsky are spending a dime on finding stacy? they are spending every cent on digging up dirt.
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    Credibility AND possible evidence. Of which I’m pretty confident they have. As for Brodsky and DP…dirty is not exactly the word I would use to describe them………..STUPID is much more appropriate. Nothing like laying all their hands for the media to see. This theory of Brodsky to bring all to the media because it worked for Michael Jackson….is not only stupid….but not even a fair russian roulette game! It’s like 6 bullets in a barrel and only 1 left empty. No way would I pull that trigger.

  469. Yeah, and those jurors might not want to see a man kicked and stomped for things he tried to make right, when, in fact, they could have been in the same situation themselves, or their loved ones, or someone close to them. It’s a small world, and before a juror can point their finger at someone, they just might get two pointed right back at them.

    Not to mention that those jurors will, of course, be screened with questions from both sides. There’s absolutely no way an impartial juror should get on a jury, including one that blogs and follows this case on a regular basis. That’s not fair and impartial justice. That’s railroading a verdict.

  470. basherette, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:37 pm Said:
    Exactly- why would Tom Morphey lie?

    What’s in it for him?

    Nada.

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    Exactly! Not even the money offered him!

  471. Need to cook dinner..spaghetti and sweet italian sausage anyone?…..be back in a bit. Be good.

  472. I’m curious about the fact that JB says Morphey is in “inpatient treatment” (i.e. rehab or a lockdown mental health facility), whilst family members report that he is in “protective custody” (i.e. like the witness protection program).

    Which is it? And why would either side lie about it?

  473. lavandadolce, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:35 pm Said:
    Since the “star witness”, and you’re assuming he would be the “star” one
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    i didnt say star witness, was quoting somone else.
    lavonda, like they say, it will all come out in the wash.
    first there has to be a trial, not a public lynching.
    read this and tell me if you would want someone like this on a jury. sounds almost insane. its regarding the traffic stop

    Mithridates
    Member

    Posts: 410

    Re: Greta ON NOW 05.07.08
    « Reply #19 on: Today at 01:49:48 PM » Quote

    AGAIN DP GETS AWAY WITH SOMETHING

    Which is what worries me still… EVERYTHING this man does, people are bending over backwards to accomodate him. Its as if he still has some friends in the police, local gov, etc. And he very well might. He can go out and do things no other normal person would ever get away with, and gets let off BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS.

    And it wouldn’t bother me as much were it not for the fact that, as I understand it, the police have confirmed this. Its not another one of Drew’s wild unsubstantiated claims. He shouldn’t be allowed to run around like this at all hours or the night, terrifying and threatening neighbors, or doing anything else. He is a SUSPECT. For all we know, he may have been out selling drugs, destroying evidence or doing something else nefarious. Lets stop and think about that one for a minute.

  474. Do you remember what Tom’s brother said about him after his Grand Jury testimony??? I don’t remember if he brought it up or not.

  475. AHa! I thought you meant “biased”- didn’t make sense to me otherwise! LOL!

    Man oh man, I sure wish this sucker had an edit button… and colored text… and a spellcheck… and a foot massager…

  476. Another thing that piqued my interest is one of Brodsky’s remarks to justify posting the picture and saying that he’s in a rehabilitation facility:

    We know what Tom Morphy is doing because he calls his family members, who tell us what he says. (Drew is Tom Morphy’s step brother)

    Now, who the heck is he referring to “family members?” They talk to Tom Morphey and then report back to Brodsky/Peterson? Hmmm. Who would that be?

    Notice his spelling of “Morphy.”

  477. It will be interesting to see if it pans out for Brodsky in the end. I think the blogger at Legalpub said that Brodsky’s ia an ‘unusual’ approach but then it’s an unusal case.

    At the very least he’ll get that book deal he’s hankering after.

    I’m not sure if it’s the best strategy to model his client’s defense after those of Michael Jackson, OJ, or Robert Blake. Those men were all well known in the public eye before their troubles. Peterson is just a cop – a regular guy.

  478. basherette, on May 8th, 2008 at 4:45 pm Said:
    I’m curious about the fact that JB says Morphey is in “inpatient treatment” (i.e. rehab or a lockdown mental health facility), whilst family members report that he is in “protective custody” (i.e. like the witness protection program).

    Which is it? And why would either side lie about it?

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    I found this Basherette

    Tom Morphey, Peterson’s stepbrother, has put his life on hold, spending nearly six months in seclusion, as he tries to help authorities investigating the disappearance of the former Bolingbrook police sergeant’s wife, said his brother John.

    “Tom’s not a whack job,” John Morphey said in his first public interview. “It just kills me to see and hear this stuff about him. Drew says [Tom’s] a liar, but Tom was coming forward with his story to me and to other people before Stacy was even reported missing.”

    Tom Morphey, 40, has been in protective custody. His brother, 41, said Drew Peterson enlisted Tom’s help to remove a large blue container from the Peterson home Oct. 28,the night Stacy, then 23, vanished.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson-stepbrothersapr16,0,1549239.story

  479. ioncrime, I read what you posted from Greta…and yes, there are people on both sides of this that are a bit over zealous and or “out of whack”. Of course DP has the rights to go out and leave his home…the same as everyone else…however I think people are tossing the sides as a whole…when in reality…that is silly. I believe he is guilty…however, that doesn’t mean I agree with all that is transpiring on the “arrest Drew” side either….and there are people who believe he is innocent…and not on the “lets bash Stacy” side. It’s a matter of weeding through the posters that are extreme in either direction. I’ve always raised my children with “never put in writing what your not willing to stand in front of Times Square with on a sign”….it’s just good practice for ones own reputation. 😉

  480. ioncrime, I read what you posted from Greta…and yes, there are people on both sides of this that are a bit over zealous and or “out of whack”. Of course DP has the rights to go out and leave his home…the same as everyone else…however I think people are tossing the sides as a whole…when in reality…that is silly. I believe he is guilty…however, that doesn’t mean I agree with all that is transpiring on the “arrest Drew” side either….and there are people who believe he is innocent…and not on the “lets bash Stacy” side. It’s a matter of weeding through the posters that are extreme in either direction. I’ve always raised my children with “never put in writing what your not willing to stand in front of Times Square with on a sign”….it’s just good practice for ones own reputation. 😉 Back to the kitchen…

  481. did you all see Brodsky’s comment on the LP blog:

    Joel A. Brodsky said…
    May 8, 2008 7:47 AM
    I believe the cadaver dog hit is just another unsubstantiated rumor in this case. I don’t ever recall seeing a dog on any of the video tape of the police coming in and out of searches of Drew’s house. Does anyone have any hard evidence to back up this rumor?

    http://media1.suburbanchicagonews.com/multimedia/jo02_bolingbrook_peterson_3.jpg_20071101_22_24_17_50-263-400.imageContent

    I am not about to say this is a “hit” or a positive scent to the cadaver dog, but just looking at that “howl” gave me the creeps.

  482. lavandadolce ~ I absolutely agree with you about some over the top remarks on both sides. I don’t agree with a lot of things either.

    I don’t like Peterson or Brodsky, I don’t find Peterson to be warm and fuzzy, and I do think he had a number of reasons to get rid of his wife. However, the talk of some to the extreme makes me cringe too. That’s just not right. There’s a limit to what an intelligent interested party should post!

  483. AH- that’s it in a nutshell, Hon…

    “There’s a limit to what an INTELLIGENT interested party should post!”

  484. basherette, on May 8th, 2008 at 5:11 pm Said:
    Ok, I just watched that clip, and got goosebumps. Zowie!

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    Which clip?

  485. Hmmmmmmmmm…now this goes along with what I’ve been saying all along. How spooky is this?

    http://www.nbc5.com/news/16203205/detail.html

    CHICAGO — An examination Thursday has determined that bones found at a Near North Side construction site are human.

    About 2 p.m. Wednesday, someone phoned police after finding bones at a construction site in the 1400 block of North Dearborn Street, police News Affairs Officer John Henry said.

    An examination of the bones Thursday determined they are human, though no information regarding the person’s age or gender was immediately available, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office.

  486. lavandadolce – I watched Nancy Grace last night, and they spent most of the hour covering just the same thing, human bones found yards from a main interstate in Alabama. A construction crew just happened upon them as they were to begin surveying the area for utility purposes, I believe.

    A body that was dumped by someone, probably never thinking someone would find it.

  487. Oh, I didn’t realize you were saying “I” was amya. Nope, not me. Sorry. I thought you were meaning something else.

  488. Well, depending on how long they’ve been in the ground, they might be able to do DNA testing, which would at the very least determine sex, race, and possibly age (how long the bones were there).

    Problem is, results friom DNA testing takes so darned long…

  489. Interesting how it mentioned that a death certificate was NOT issued. Must have been only a few bones, and not a complete/semi-complete skeleton?

  490. feisty – truth – what’s up with the LOL? You weren’t being nice? Aww, I feel bad now.

  491. What IS it with my timing here? Just when I thought it was safe to swim, the sharks start circling again…

    Bugger off, malcontents!

  492. Well, we’ll just do what we did last time, and ignore ’em until they start behaving civilly.

  493. Meanwhile, back at the ranch-

    Morphey- why on G*d’s green earth would JB publicly lie about him being in rehab/a lock down psych ward?

    How, exactly, does that bebefit his client, especially when it is do easy to refute?

  494. lavandadolce, on May 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pm Said:
    Hmmmmmmmmm…now this goes along with what I’ve been saying all along. How spooky is this?

    ——————————————–
    Hmmmmmmm? is right! I’m not sure where this is in relation to Bolingbrook… does anyone know?

  495. Yeah, Bash, that’s puzzling that he would say he knows he’s in rehab because he speaks to family members, who tell “them.” Someone is stretching the truth. Why would Brodsky say something like that, and, should it come to pass it’s NOT true, put his butt on the line as far as his credibility? Doesn’t make sense to me. Doesn’t his years in the legal profession, his reputation, mean anything?

    On the other hand, if what he says IS true and someone from the family has now been outted, doesn’t that cut-off his information supply?

    Doesn’t “keep your mouth shut” mean anything to Brodsky?

  496. Bash -your asking about the bones being found in IL in relation to where DPeterson is from? It’s about a 30 mile difference, I believe. The bones were found in a near Chicago-Loop location. If Peterson were to get on I-55 and go the opposite direction of where the searches have been centered, he’d be heading towards Lake Michigan/Downtown. In fact, that S&S Canal is just blocks from me, yet I’m 15 miles from Bolingbrook.

  497. i think brodsky can lie all he wants on forums, newspapers ect. but not to le or the courts. does anyone believe its the morphey family posting on the fsp forum?

  498. I think he might have thought it a grand idea to sow seeds of instability and non-trustworthiness regarding Tom- but the end result is that seeds were sown about his, and ultimately, his client’s, perfidy instead.

    Not a good move for the defense at all…

  499. feisty – you know, I go there for information, mostly. I scroll over much of it, because I know it doesn’t interest me. There’s some that are over animated and long winded, and I just don’t care to read it. That being said, as to Mr. Morphey’s family, sounds like there’s quite a few of them and they’re just defending one of their own. No more, no less than any of us might do if our family member was needing defense.

    Sometimes we forget that our defense is blind to the truth, sometimes it’s not. Sometimes it’s referred to as “it’s my family.” What can I say?

  500. I’m anxious to hear updates about those bones.

    And thank-you rescueapet, for the discription of where the bones were located. They have a good map on the news article, but I’m in CA so it all looked Greek to me 🙂

  501. I believe, juror, that’s considered the Gold Coast are, influential, so to speak. Things always getting torn down, built up. High rises.

    I often wonder if they would come north for searches. Bolingbrook is just a “short 15-mile jaunt for me on I-55. If DP were to get on I-55 and head north, he’d be heading towards me.

    In fact, just a short distance from me is an area of the S&S Canal, the Canal where searches were done, but in an area closer to Bolingbrook. Yet, at my location, there’s many service roads that run along the S&S Canal, underneath the bridges of I-55, and there are railroad tracks that also run along the Canal. I often think, in fact, that this area is just as secluded down by that Canal as it is in many other places. There would have been no tolls incurred because it’s a stretch of expressway used to get to Downtown Chicago.

  502. We can go to the comment section of the news update of the day, the Savio sister GJ appearance. How ’bout it?

  503. i used to read there alot when it was good info. tehn they canned all the researchers & its pretty much blah blah now. wonder how long the bones had been there? lavanda that would be so crazy . you have said construction concrete from teh beginning. ive changed my mind at least 100 times on this stuff. one other guy on a forum always says dp killed sp & put lime on her, one day i think shes dead maybe the next day i wont. have had hrs of discussion on this with various friends & family none of think the same as the other one kinda funny in a way

  504. I ALWAYS held out hope that she wasn’t dead, really I did. I would have rather believed that he dragged her out of there to scare her, because she got in his face about a divorce, and possibly threatened him with the KS matter. My thinking was that it wasn’t that hard to buy into that, assuming he had originally only planned on scaring her for a few days. I’d rather believe, if he was involved in something bad, it was to lose her for a while, than to have murdered her. Take her away from her children.

  505. Just a thought from an insomniac ol’ Jewish mum in AK:

    There seems to be a bit of conflict regarding Tom Morphey’s whereabouts. He is either:

    A. In residential treatment for mental health issues (and/or, according to JB and DiP, drug/alcohol addictions)…

    *OR*

    B. He is in the protective custody of LE/the FBI, because he is potentially a valuable witness for the prosecution of DiP.

    Now, that’s just a wee bit confusing, ain’t it?

    Well, no, it’s not really- if you take a step back and look at the whole enchilada, instead of just the beans and rice.

    It was reported that Tom tried to kill himself a day after he “helped” DiP with the barrel and cell phone stuff, right?

    So, it would stand to reason that Tom would be receiving mandatory mental health care for his suicidal depression/anxiety/PTSD/etc. immediately (which is required in AK for anyone who tries to commit suicide, but ends up at hospital instead- not sure about IL law, sorry!)- right?

    And, if LE/the FBI considers Tom to be a valuable prosecution witness, then would they not want to see that he gets the care and help he needs, so that he will be less suicidally traumatized, and more emotionally stable, if and when he is required to give testimony before the Grand Jury, and/or at the criminal trial?

    Also, even if Tom is in a “lock down” or medium security mental health hospital, he WOULD be able to contact his loved ones, whilst still remaining safely ensconced and protected by LE as he heals.

    Taking this all in, it is my belief that BOTH of these statements are TRUE:

    1. Tom Morphey IS in residential treatment for his depression and anxiety about whatever occurred the night he was “helping” his step-brother DiP.

    *AND*

    2. Tom Morphey IS in the “protective custody” of LE, because whilst he is getting the help he needs, he is also being protected/guarded/monitored as a potentially very valuable witness by LE/the FBI.

    And that’s all I have to say about that right now…

  506. truthisthere, on May 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pm Said:
    Rescueapet, a good friend of mine rescues pets, name is Amya LOL LOL LOL

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