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  1. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:01 am

    What two questions did you ask JB?

    ***********

    Arrrgggh! Sorry- my son picked this night to ask a birds and the bees query. Shoulda seen my jaw drop to the floor!

    Anyhoo- I hope Mr. Man enjoyed the toe nail cutting show. Tomorrow I’ll be picking my nose after lunchtime, if he’s interested… LOL!

    JB Queries: I asked a modest *beep*load of queries, and got the answers to 3 of ‘em. Couldn’t believe it! Anyhoo, I asked about the alarm company, the phone call DP made to his work on the day Stacy went missing, and the bikini/red jogging suit.

    It done broke mah little heart that he didn’t answer the “Bop” query…

  2. Joel, you have stated that most of your search for Stacy is being done via the Internet. Can you explain how that works? Are you waiting for her to post somewhere, searching Google images, how?

    “Private investigators have proprietary databases and methods they use to find people. For example for $250, if I have your name and SS# or date of birth a private investigator I use can find your bank account and tell me how much money you have in it. I have no idea how they do it, which is why they get paid. In doing a missing person search they look for hotel registrations, traffic stops, utility bills, apartment rentals, etc. They tell me that they can find a person, and, in some cases, even if a person is using an alias. But if a person is careful to say off the “grid”, or goes to a third world country, it can be very hard if not impossible to find them.”

    So this is the extent of their research. Knowing that if she had run away that she would be doing it under an assumed name, knowing that she took 25k in cash, Brodsky states that they spent $250 to do….nothing really.

    Should we disappointed? I guess not, really. They know Stacy is not going to show up anywhere. But I appreciate the time he took to type up the spin.

  3. i would bet the boxes were for the yard sale.especially since sp had sharon’s garage door opener for that reason. which dp has now.surely dp would have more than 6 boxes. yet sharon says sp told her she had him all packed up.

  4. feistygurl // May 20, 2008 at 6:08 am

    i would bet the boxes were for the yard sale.especially since sp had sharon’s garage door opener for that reason. which dp has now.surely dp would have more than 6 boxes. yet sharon says sp told her she had him all packed up.
    __________

    Good point. Joel stated this morning:

    “Sharon Bychowski has attached a video camera to her home which is pointed at the shrine on her front lawn. (no, it does not move, it just stays pointed at the shrine) This was set up on last Friday. No camera pointing at her house, or front door, backyard or driveway, but just at the shrine.”

    My comments:
    That lady never ceases to amaze me! What a whackadoo! Also, why has Danya Hooker not done a story on the closing of the FSP forum. She was always an advocate for FSP. I would assume that if the forum were shut down for the right reasons then she would want to promote that to end the speculation that it was shut down for something bad.

  5. I don’t get here often but am really sad to see there are still those who want to hash & rehash the FSP site.

    Last time I was here it was a nice discussion, but reading back over yesterday, I see some of the bashers have returned to go over & over this ad nauseum~!!!!

  6. I haven’t heard or read anything new. I was hoping the weekend search would bring us closer to finding Stacy.

  7. Sal, Danya has been given a lot of info she just keeps quiet.

    Reporters don’t want to do “Amy Jacobsen part deux”… fear factor involved.

    It would look bad to report that a MP site was crooked and whacked. The public wants to hear sexy stuff… if DP went out with a few more 22yr olds…. now THAT is news they want to hear…

    dimwads.

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    //S//
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    Chief, Maintenance Section
    Illinois Waterway Project Office

  9. I hope this is a way to check out the Dresden area for Stacy. I remember Sonia posting about this area on FSP as well as others.

    And by the way – Lorie was the one who found it. Someone sent it to me.

  10. I had really been enjoying reading here, but need to stand up for a few truths that I know to be true. After saying my piece I will never read this blog again!

    Camera at Sharon’s home is not pointed at Stacy’s Garden, just appears that way?? I was there when several cameras were installed….NOT last Friday…..do you think just because you can’t see them?? that is the only camera?? You should really not spread rumors about the neighbors security system on a public forum.

    Secondly, put to rest the boxes packed for a garage sale. NOT true. Stacy packed these few things for DP to get out of the house, her plan was to move forward with lawyer and divorce. Yes, she sat at the curb crying….true.

    Funny how everyone can criticize the FSP website and forum since it’s been shut down? Many of you were there once? Just because it no longer runs you run to the nearest source to bash not only the site but the people who loved Stacy the most. Sad world we live in with technology at fingertips.

    The only good thing that remains is the Search for Stacy does continue, you see the folks that sit on computers and spew trash are not needed to continue the mission at hand. Don’t any of you feel this family should at least have that resolution?? May you NEVER have to walk in their shoes. They did not ask for this and did everything they could to avoid this result. Truth be told DP was 100 steps ahead of all who wanted to help Stacy, and he knew just how to threaten her about the choices she was making.

    I must continue to believe that justice will be served for both Kathleen and Stacy, and that the families can have resolution, both women were and are loved very, very much.

    Unconditional love and dedication to a cause are two things very few people seem to grasp…why? maybe because it is hard work and takes lots of character to stand up for truths? don’t know for sure..

    Thomas, Kris, Anthony and Lacy deserve the truth!

  11. jeepers – Very good post.

    I pass on the negative and focus on the positive. That’s the only way to get through when there are so many people who focus on bashing Stacy’s family and friends.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that I would never wish what Stacy and Kathleen’s family and friends are going through on anyone. The children have suffered so much and I keep all of them in my thoughts and prayers.

  12. jeepers4, I second that, very good post.

    Problem is, as you see, there are those here who cannot “let it go” and continue to spew their bitterness & hatred about the family & their site, even though the forum is gone!

  13. I agree about passing on the negative. Specifically, the bashing of ones that are not sympathetic to the plight of Drew Peterson. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    But, I did want to say I appreciate your post, jeepers.

  14. amandareckonwith – I can read an opinion of others. I just choose to not pick on others who don’t agree with me. Whaaaaambulance? Geez.

    What is wrong with wanting Stacy found, if anything? What’s wrong with wanting resolution and justice, if anything?

  15. yeah stacy really cared about Kathleen, don’t try to sugar coat that one bit, jeepers.
    Stacy did not care one bit about justice for Kathleen and all her actions for those 4 years after kathleens death prove it. Stacy cared about Stacy getting away from drew and ONLY spoke about Kathleens death when it was for her advantage.
    Yes it’s very tragic and sad and BOTH families need closure I don’t disagree with that one bit. But don’t try to act like Stacy cared at all about Kathleen because it’s a big fat lie. Otherwise Stacy never would have NEVER been drews partner in crime regardless of the excuses given to sugar coat why Stacy was an accessory to murder according to her own words to the pastor.
    And drew is about as dumb as a box of rocks so I dont’ buy the line that he’s sooo much smarter and all tried to get Stacy away from him but couldn’t because he was 10 steps ahead. If that was the case SOMEONE should have taken her out of that house the night she told cass she was afraid for her life. What happens instead cass can’t reach stacy for over 10 hours and then deciedes to take action. That totally contridicts the storys trying to be forced upon those who question anything besides drew is guilty.
    This comment comes to my mind everytime someone tries to claim how much stacy cared about justice for Kathleen.

    —–

    She told me that Stacy would come over to her house and ring the door bell, and want to ‘chat.’ We both felt like she was somehow trying to ‘become’ Kathy; almost like she wanted to take over her life, if that makes any sense. Stacey had enrolled at [Joliet Junior College] and was going to go into the nursing program as well…

  16. I want justice, I want resolution, I want Stacy found. I searched for her, I contributed to the fund.

    I also happen to think DP is a POS and is guilty, but it won’t be up to me.

    Now… that said, I think FSP was key in getting sympathy for DP, I think FoSP is as crooked as it gets, they were told what to do and how to do it, but CHOSE to make a circus of STACY and spit on her with a Sharonshrine complete with posters.

    Spit on Stacy and slap her kids is what I see FSP and FoSP doing, and I am mighty pissed that they did it.

    And I will keep checking on them every Tuesday until I can report to somebody that they have finally stopped lying and done the right thing.

  17. Understood Amandareckonwith. I wanted to know your thoughts aside from the comments, that’s why I asked and I’m glad you replied. Thank you.

    I can understand why you are checking on the status. You have donated money and time and want to see that the right thing is done with the money. I guess I’m a little different…When I donate to Salvation Army or United Way or any other charity I consider that money gone. I am sure not every penny donated is used properly, however the gift received is in the act of giving to someone less fortunate, or to a cause I believe in.

  18. luvpups // May 20, 2008 at 9:14 am

    jeepers4, I second that, very good post.

    Problem is, as you see, there are those here who cannot “let it go” and continue to spew their bitterness & hatred about the family & their site, even though the forum is gone!
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    There are also those here that continue to spew their venom and not let it go about DP, even though he’s yet to be charged or convicted.

    Two way street here.

  19. Before I read jeepers’ post that more cameras were installed, I thought maybe the camera was focused on the garden because of something that was put in the garden. They want to see who stops by and what they do …

    I can’t understand why else you would put *security* cameras aimed at the garden.

  20. Bash, can you give the link to your queries (JB Queries: I asked a modest *beep*load of queries, and got the answers to 3 of ‘em. Couldn’t believe it! Anyhoo, I asked about the alarm company, the phone call DP made to his work on the day Stacy went missing, and the bikini/red jogging suit.)

    Are the answers posted or did they come to you via email or PM?

  21. Two way street, yes.

    But, the sad thing here is that two women are dead, and neither has the privilege of standing up against the proverbial darts thrown at their dead selves!!!!!

    Drew is fortunate to be walking around a free man, poking anything that doesn’t move.

    Sorry, but that’s the way I see it. Until the man either clears his name or gets charged, I have my clear and rational opinions about what kind of an animal he is.

    He DOES have a living ex-wife that has spoken out about his death threats and beatings. I take her at her word.

    God rest Kathleen Savio’s soul, but, she also was “the other woman” when DP was married to Vicki Connelly. Vicki Connelly was threatened with death by the creep too. Fortunately, she’s alive to talk about it.

  22. Kimmer – it is a two way street. I just hope that we can agree to disagree in a respectful way. Maybe I hope for too much?

    Anyway, I am glad that everyone has a different opinion on things, even this. Life would be boring if everyone thought the same way about everything.

    As far as security cameras on the garden – if true I wouldn’t blame Sharon. You know there are people out there who try to destroy the beautiful things in life.

  23. I think what rescueapet is saying is that none of these women were innocent angels but they did not deserve to be murdered, if indeed they both were (and IMO they were).

    If this is not what rescue is saying, I apologize. It is what I am saying.

  24. Rescue- you are entitled to your opinion, never said you weren’t. Just as we are entitled to ours on the rest of the players in this case.

    Yet, some posters are singled out because we don’t focus 100% on what a slimeball DP is.

  25. The stealing of garden gnomes makes the letters to the editor monthly here, so I suppose vandalism is a thought. I just thought it went deeper than that.

  26. one woman is dead the other’s status is unknown. She might be dead and she may not.
    So what if stacy or kathleen were the other woman that’s pretty damn common in today’s society. What isn’t common is being an accesssory to muder after the fact and providing an alibi for your husband who “supposedly” murdered his ex wife.
    Still no suspect named in Kathleen’s death, wonder why that is? Could it be that drew did not kill kathleen and someone else did!! someone that wanted to take over kathleen’s life perhaps??
    point is we don’t know many would be wise to remember that little tidbit.

    IMO

  27. yes, I think, for the most part, people are trying to be respectful of other’s opinions. There are clearly differing ideas and opinions, that’s for sure, and both sides should have the opportunity to express them. I just get frustrated when the personal and Bozo remarks are made that have absolutely nothing to do with the poster’s point.

    JMHO.

  28. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 9:50 am

    I think what rescueapet is saying is that none of these women were innocent angels but they did not deserve to be murdered, if indeed they both were (and IMO they were).

    If this is not what rescue is saying, I apologize. It is what I am saying.
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    Well this I can agree with. No one here would want their personal actions broadcast worldwide. When it comes down to it, no one is without sin and there are things in everyone’s past that they would not want the world to know.

  29. Oh come on, who’s going to destroy flowers?
    It’s a cul de sac, only gawkers drive in there anyways.

    Sharon met some of the people bringing flowers, maybe she thinks they are a little “out there” ?? Maybe?

  30. amandareckonwith // May 20, 2008 at 8:39 am

    Well, today is Tuesday. I will make calls later to see if FSP has done the tax stuff, and I am hoping I will have positive news.

    Bets?

    Yeah… whackadoo is a good word.
    _________________
    Please let us know what you find out.

  31. I guess what I’m referring to is that when there is a post that brings up the FSP/FoSP and the circus they’ve created, we get the eyeroll or accused of wanting to bash murdered/missing women.

  32. Thanks, noway. Yes, you spoke correctly. It’s unfortunate about the fate of these two women. Well, unfortunate isn’t a correct word. Horrendous is more like it.

    The thing is, because of the circumstances, every single aspect of their lives is out in the open, warts and all. Who here, even, would want their private lives thrown out there for all to see. Maybe something in your life would look bad to someone else, but without you there to explain it and make it rational, it’s even worse.

    That’s all I’m trying to say. Both women didn’t deserve to die at the hands of another.

  33. noway, if you are a member of kimmers, just go there and read a thread with the Brodsky questions. I promise it is easier to read than the actual JB question thread at SYM, lol.

    Yeah, pimping the forum again, just click my nic if you want to register to read, we will let you in, no popularity poll, no hassle.

  34. I have yet to hear anyone out her say that either of these woman deserved anything.
    I have yet to hear anyone say they don’t want JUSTICE for Kathleen or Stacy.
    I have yet to hear anyone out her say they don’t want Stacy found.
    these are what those who get their panties in a wad spew at those who ask the hard questions to all the players in this tragedy. Besides the constant spewing of you must be drew, you must work for JB, you must be one of drews freinds, you must be wife #5.
    Anyone that is that far off base to actually say that crap to a poster they don’t agree with IMO their views have no credibility. If they believe I’m drew or any of the above then I seriously question any LOGIC they might even think they are using.

  35. rescue, I have not seen anyone who thought the women deserved to die, or who even in the slightest or even joking way, agrees with domestic violence.

    There isn’t anyone who’s stuck with this saga for six months who does not actually care deeply.

  36. kimmer, that is because not everyone sees it as a circus no matter what was said or done.

    So many people at FSP believed DP was guilty, not only of Kathleen’s death but of Stacy’s disappearance and (most likely) death. And to see him enjoying life was more than they could take and remain calm … it brought out the worst in them.

    I was one of them. It was not my finest hour on FSP. I sometimes find myself not playing nice here … but here, there is someone who can bring me back to reality right away. At FSP, even those that thought I’d gone too far couldn’t have said so except in a PM, and that really didn’t have the impact that a “public” talking to would have.

  37. Does anyone know whether the police cannot make an arrest until the GJ has completed their investigation?

    I did read that The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires a grand jury indictment for federal criminal charges. Only about half the states now use grand juries.

    And so I wondered whether they were waiting to make an arrest … to see whether the GJ would come back with an indictment of federal criminal charges.

    If they don’t indict with federal criminal charges, then they might make an arrest on lesser charges?

  38. Good post Noway. I think this case bring out a lot of emotions in all of us – the good bad and ugly sometimes. It is hard to contain it sometimes.

  39. You know what, amanda, I agree that no one has specifically said anything about either woman deserving death. I never meant to insinuate anyone did.

    freedom – who are you talking to about panties in a wad and views having no credibility. I’m lost on that one. Can you explain who and what you are talking about? I never called you anyone or anything???????

  40. Good question Noway. Not to be funny here but maybe someone wants to ask JB about that if he is still taking questions?

  41. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 10:09 am

    You know what, amanda, I agree that no one has specifically said anything about either woman deserving death. I never meant to insinuate anyone did.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    But others, including family members and committee members have accused us of saying that just because some of us look at everyone/thing involved.

    I can understand that emotions run high when a young woman is missing, but as family and her public representatives, you need to get it in check.

  42. rescue those that have called others drew, etc know who they are. If you haven’t then I’m not refering to you.

  43. found this

    The Arrest

    When the police arrest someone and believe a felony should be charged, they call the State’s Attorney’s Felony Review Office. A police officer does not have the authority on his own to decide to charge a person with a felony. That decision belongs to the State’s Attorney.
    The Felony Review office runs 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The arresting officer calls the State’s Attorney on duty. That State’s Attorney gathers information from the officer regarding the evidence in the case and the defendant’s criminal history. In some cases the Attorney conducts an interview of the defendant. After conducting his own review of the case and the evidence the State’s Attorney then decides if felony charges are proper.
    If the State’s Attorney believes the evidence is insufficient or the circumstances do not call for a felony, and felony charges are rejected. This can happen for any number of reasons depending upon the crime involved. If the State’s Attorney rejects felony charges, the police do have the authority to still file misdemeanor charges.
    If the State’s Attorney believes the evidence warrants felony charges, then those charges are filed. These charges are sent to court and the defendant is processed by the police for the felony. At this point the charges are outlined in a document called an information. At this point the defendant is held for a bond hearing.

  44. The Indictment

    Instead of having a preliminary hearing, the state can charge a person with a felony by presenting evidence to a Grand Jury. This consists of 18 people from the community. The State’s Attorney presents evidence to these 18 people. The proceedings are conducted in secret, and the defense does not get the chance to ask questions of the witnesses. Most felony cases actually proceed in this fashion.
    The Grand Jury looks at the same two issues as a judge at a preliminary hearing: Was there a crime? Is there reason to believe a specific individual is responsible?
    If after the Grand Jury hears the evidence and the jurors agree there was a crime, likely committed by a particular individual an indictment is issued. This is the document that officially accuses the person of a crime.
    In this situation there will not be a preliminary hearing. If the defendant is not in custody, or currently on bond, a warrant will be issued for his arrest.

  45. Okay – back on topic. When I looked back at some articles about Vicki Connelly, she was quoted as saying “Peterson once told her that he could kill her and make it look like an accident and she said they had a tempestuous marriage.”

    Since she appeared before the GJ, I wonder if they went into detail with her under what circumstances he threatened her. In other words, could he have wanted out of the marriage when he “found” Kathleen, and made it clear to her that that’s the way it was going to be? I guess my question is, what got him so raged that he would threaten her with death?

    She’s never elaborated publicly about anything. She’s another missing link in this mess, IMHO.

  46. Joel,

    How does DP know Stacy took her bikini and was wearing a red jogging suit if he was asleep when she left?

    8. The item about the bikini is what Pam Bosco said Drew told Cassandra Cales late on Oct. 28th. The only thing Drew has said publicly about the phone call is that Stacy said she had found someone else and is leaving. As to the red jogging suit, that is what Stacy was wearing on Oct. 28 when Drew last saw her before he went to sleep. This is what he told the state police and they put it on their missing person releases.
    ***************************************
    Somebody please help me with this, but wasn’t there a Fox News video where Drew actually stated she took the bikini? I am 99.99% positive I saw a video that he said this. I’m trying to find it now, but if anyone else can put their finger right on it, please let me know. Thanks!

  47. Well, this was published as late as 5/1:

    May 1, 2008
    Recommend (4)

    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com

    It might be throwing good money after bad, but Drew Peterson says he will pay $25,000 to get his wife back.

    Peterson has claimed all along his missing wife Stacy stole $25,000 from his safe when she grabbed her bikini and absconded with another man in late October. Now he is doubling this investment for her “safe return.”

    *****************

    I guess this is what I have to say about this. I’ve NEVER seen a response from Peterson in the press to the contrary. He’s been confronted with the bikini issue. Why didn’t he dispute it then by indicating he never said that. He’s had AMPLE opportunity to do so. Hmmmm.

    Wouldn’t that just solve this whole issue about the bikini? So, if JB is spinning a new word game, this is the first time he’s doing it. On a blog.

  48. CFS – I think it is Foxnews November 2. There is a quote on acandyrose.com – but no video.

  49. Bosco said Peterson told Cales even more.

    “He said, ‘She took $25,000 from the safe, her bikini is missing and her passport is missing, she’s disappeared just like your mom,”‘ said Bosco, the last comment referring to Cales’ and Stacy Peterson’s mother, who vanished when Stacy was a teenager.

    Cales said she didn’t believe any of it, starting with Peterson’s contention that he was home. She knew that wasn’t true, she wrote, because she had just been there and was sitting around the corner.

    h t
    t p://babyboomeradvisorclub.wordpress.com/2007/12/27/stacy-peterson-still-missing-and-drew-peterson-still-suspect/

  50. Drew’s nakey pic being posted?

    The fund being questioned?

    Finally someone paid attention to the ridiculous circus it had become?

    Turd took his toys and went home?

    Droolie stopped paying for bandwidth?

    What’s behind door #6?

    Whatever it was, this fiasco would have had more support, more donations, more searchers had it not been for that forum. It should have been removed to an off-site or passworded forum months ago.

  51. I respected Cassandra’s wishes and did not bash Drew. Cassandra did post that if the Drew bashing didn’t stop, the site would turn to an info only site.

  52. kimmer78 // May 20, 2008 at 10:31 am

    So HAS anyone heard why they shut down the forum?
    ________________
    IMO they took advice similar to what you posted above: I can understand that emotions run high when a young woman is missing, but as family and her public representatives, you need to get it in check.

    They realized that the image of them that was being made public reflected on the image Stacy had in the public eye.

    Drew is here, so his actions speak for themselves.

    Stacy is not here, so the actions of her family and family spokespersons speak for her.

    IMO

  53. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307264,00.html

    Suburban Chicago Cop Says Wife No Stranger to Disappearances

    November 01, 2007

    A suburban Chicago police sergeant said he had nothing to do with his fourth wifes disappearance and claimed the woman is no stranger to disappearing acts, the Naperville Sun reported Thursday.

    Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson said Stacy Ann Peterson, 23, who has been missing since Sunday, has run off before after he or the couples children got to be too much for her, the Sun reported. Drew Peterson claimed she may be following in the footsteps of her mother, who vanished eight years ago and has not been seen or heard from since.

    Police entered the Peterson home Thursday with sniffing dogs, and impounded two vehicles from the driveway. They have also begun questioning Drew Peterson. The couple’s two children were reportedly staying with a neighbor.

    Drew Peterson maintains that Stacy Ann is “where she wants to be.” When asked if she removed anything from the house before leaving, he told FOX News she took cash, a passport and a bikini.

    Drew Peterson is on paid leave from the force but still carrying his badge and gun. He was fired from the department more than 20 years ago after being found guilty by the village board of police and fire commissioners of disobedience, conducting a self-assigned investigation, failure to report a bribe immediately and official misconduct, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

    Just two months before, he had been indicted on charges of official misconduct and failure to report a bribe. Officials at the time said he allegedly had solicited drugs in exchange for information.

    Click here to read the full story at the Chicago Sun-Times.

    Authorities announced this week they have reopened an investigation into the death of Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found dead in a dry bathtub after drowning in 2004. The coroner had ruled Savios death accidental, and the case was closed later that year.

  54. Thanks for links ladies. That was a question on SYM posted by Basherette. When Joel answered that the bikini remark came from Pam Bosco, I just knew that I had seen something somewhere that it actually came out of Drew’s own mouth.

  55. I wouldn’t try too hard to find verification or disproof of anything Brodksy is saying on that forum. He isn’t trying to be accurate or consistant. We’ve already seen a few instances of him contradicting statements he’s said before.

    At the forum, he’s stated that most news stories are fabrications, and collections of cobbled-together misquotes so…showing him ‘proof’ of the contradictions isn’t going to be effective either.

    It is interesting though, since it goes to prove how slippery he is. Yep, Drew’s got himself a fine defense lawyer.

  56. Noway, yes, Joel is still asnwering questions, 10 at the time. Adm chooses the ones from the many that are submitted that Joel will answer. I’m finding discrepancies in some of his answers, and that’s why I asked about the bikini thing.

  57. Oh no Facs!!! LOL, I’m NOT going to show him anything to try to dispute what he’s saying. I’m just enjoying the fact somewhat that he doens’t know as much about his client as he should, or thinks he does.

  58. Kimmer, that’s why the whole mention of the bikini was complete nonsense!!! Why even bother trying to ad lib a stupid remark like that??

  59. No, I’m here. And I think you *should* point out the discrepancies.

    Joel, you said “blah blah blah.” What do you say to this “quote with opposite of blah blah blah.”

    And Joel would say: I was misquoted. Of course if the link is to a video … then you could also quote him saying that tv/cable interviews are better because you see the person speaking. 😀

  60. I’m not a police officer and don’t personally know any people that are, so cop humor may be a veritable method of defense for the thin blue line in dealing with the many, many horrific crimes and investigations that they do. Rescue, your husband is retired LE. Is that something he has…..cop humor??

  61. I always thought he said the bikini to go along with his “Stacy was going on a little vacation” story.

  62. Quote: “I’m not certain if the complaints we made caused the authorities to take the blog down or if it was something else,” says Joel A. Brodsky, Peterson’s criminal defense attorney, “but they crossed the line with the site there’s no doubt about it.”

    (Can only assume that Glenn has not misquoted his client.)

    I think Joel is looking for the credit for shutting down FSP. He wants to know what happened so he can say he was right.

    IMO

  63. And the site is not shut down. Just the chatting/forum part of it.

    Not even Glenn can get the facts right. 😉

    Off to play in the sandbox. BBL

  64. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 11:16 am

    And the site is not shut down. Just the chatting/forum part of it.

    Not even Glenn can get the facts right.
    Off to play in the sandbox. BBL


    huh? the below statement is from the article sounds like he got it right.

    While the information Web site is still online, the popular blog has now been taken down.

  65. Doesn’t it seem lately that Drew/Brodsky and others are much more obsessed with what takes place at Sharon’s house and FSP than the other way around?

    People visited Sharon, their car had dealer plates, Sharon didnt sneer towards Drew’s house, Sharon has a camera in her yard. What happened with the FSP forum? Why did it go away? Why? WHy? WHY? What’s it all about?

    It doesn’t agree very much with the sentiment expressed in the latest Selig/Brodsky/Peterson press release, does it?

    You know, the one where they say the focus should be on finding Stacy.

  66. Gotout, it was said to go along with that. It’s just a stupid remark….like he meant to say….”I went through all of her clothes and only her bikini is missing.” Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!

  67. Facs, that is so ironic huh?? Turn about is fair play I guess. You spy on me, I’ll spy on you too!

    But in Glenn’s press release, Drew says that FSP spent more time spying on him than trying to find Stacy (or words to that effect). Then turns aroudn and says he doesn’t know why she hasn’t been found because SO MANY people are looking for her. Hmmmmm. Could that be FSP people???

  68. cfs – In all the years of my husband’s career, and all of the police people I’ve known, I’ve never seen any of them use the excuse “that’s just my way of dealing with things,” meaning his silliness when describing a tragic occurrence.

    Absolutely, police officers, as well as medical personnel, have to build-up a wall to ward off the things they see on a daily occurrence. Otherwise, it’ll take them down to the depths of hell, and take their loved ones right down with them. Some don’t fare as well, and crumble, I guess.

    My husband, for the most part, never brought home his experiences, except for an occasional one. However, children, under any circumstances, would tear him up. Understandably. Accidents, domestic issues, whatever involved children.

    I think that “cop” humor Peterson talks about is crapola. Maybe that’s his fantasy world, but he shares it alone. Maybe he never had enough brains to figure out that he didn’t belong in the world of law enforcement. He sounds like one of those misfits that falls through the cracks, and most everyone around him as to pay the price.

  69. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 11:27 am

    like I said drew is as dumb as a box of rocks.

    and “she took her bikini” is a perfect example.
    ******************************

    One thing that all the Q&A and rehashing of old info has done is to make me all the more certain of DP’s guilt. It’s just…all there.

    If Stacy had truly told DP that she was leaving him, as soon as he became a suspect he would have put every dime and every ounce of energy towards finding her in order to prove his innocence. But he hasn’t done that.

    Instead he’s devoted every bit of time, energy and money towards disparaging her memory, her family and her friends. It’s like spitting on her grave.

    He killed her. He killed her and disposed of her body and hired a lawyer. Nothing he’s done in the past, and nothing he’s done since she disappeared has given me the least reason to believe his ran -away story. Nothing.

  70. Exactly CSF! ‘So many people looking for her’…well not her husband, of course. Just those FSP crazies.

  71. “And Peterson now says he is growing increasingly worried and fears someone, perhaps the man she ran off with, has harmed her or is preventing her from making contact.”

    *************

    Woooo. That blew me away!!!!!!! Now he’s going into Phase II, as in, okay, she’s dead, but I didn’t kill her, someone else did.

    Same with KS. Okay, she was murdered, but maybe it was the boyfriend.

    Now, we’re entering the Twilight Zone.

  72. Anyone else thinking that now that the GJ is probably winding down and it’s getting down to the nitty gritty, the bullcrap has been let out of the gate from the Brodsky/Peterson camp?

    Some very interesting comments coming out now. KS’s boyfriend, Stacy’s boyfriend. Hmmm.

    I have to find my secret decoder book. I lost it, and I can’t decode all of these cryptic announcements from them!!!!!

  73. facs I’m still on the fence until there is some hard evidence.
    If I ONLY look at drew and totally ignore anything but drew, yes he looks guilty as all get out.
    When I factor in many other things then I’m back on the fence. The biggest factor for me is stacy’s involvement in Kathleens death.
    I dont’ see drew as this diabolical serial killer that killed stacy, kathleen, stacy’s mom, john spira and on and on.
    Also when I look at what BB did to the Fox family and the stats of IL’s innocents on death row along. I have lots of doubts, then add in the paint story and not knocking on stacy’s door for over 10 hours. I’m right back on the fence.

  74. Rescue, I was going to get to that one too, but got a phone call and had to stop for little bit.

    He’s scrambling, huh? Got all of his angles covered….That’s why he finally offered the reward everyone thought was so late in coming. Now, he’s really concerned after SO LONG, so he thought $25,000 (yeah right) might bring in some good leads as to her whereabouts. That explains (he thinks) why he didn’t offer it sooner. I think HE THINKS that he really has it all figued out now, YOU think????

  75. She said during closing arguments Monday that Will County sheriff’s detectives arrested Fox even though they knew he didn’t kill his 3-year-old daughter, Riley.

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  76. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Woooo. That blew me away!!!!!!! Now he’s going into Phase II, as in, okay, she’s dead, but I didn’t kill her, someone else did.
    **************************

    Oh noes! So…is it OK now to look under rocks and bushes?

    Does Phase III show Drew out striding through the undergrowth, poking things with a stick and providing quotes about the dasterdly creep who stole his dear wife from him only to murder her and leave her body to molder in the woods?

  77. freedom – It looks as though Peterson/Brodsky will make it obvious that there are others responsible for the death and disappearance/possible death of these women. I think there’s going to be a major change in the whole defense thing now that it’s getting closer to possible charges.

    So, in that respect, Peterson/Brodsky will make sure that Peterson ISN’T the only one looked at, and that others aren’t “ignored.” You can count on that.

  78. Well after the pretty penny that Will County had to pay the Fox family and the debacle of Kevin being charged within days of an election…

    I find it odd that the death of KS was re-classified.

    The comments that Glasgow made to throw the dirt towards his predecessor.

    DP MAY be a murderer, but either way, he is definately taking a beating to prove that Will Co doesn’t have a “good ol’ boys club”

  79. I don’t base my views on drew or brodsky and I’m really getting tired of that implication.
    If LE hasn’t looked at all in this case and ruled them out one by one then I’m very disapointed and don’t have much respect for them or anyone else that would claim to be a law enforcement professional with tunnel vision.
    I hope that I can count on LE looking at all in this case.
    I dont get your reasoning without seeing any ACTUAL evidence that LE should only look at drew.

  80. You know, Vicki Connelly, Peterson’s second wife, made a statement that was in the press that Peterson was good at mind games. Well, here it comes.

    We’re going to have to endure the tv rounds, once again, I’m afraid, of the new theory. I was wondering what they would do to re-energize their sad, sick, old story. Obviously, the tv people don’t want them anymore because their old farts and no one wants to hear it.

    Ah, but the “okay, they were murdered” theory is new life. Heaven help us all!!!!!

  81. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 11:41 am

    facs I’m still on the fence until there is some hard evidence.
    If I ONLY look at drew and totally ignore anything but drew, yes he looks guilty as all get out.
    When I factor in many other things then I’m back on the fence. The biggest factor for me is stacy’s involvement in Kathleens death.
    I dont’ see drew as this diabolical serial killer that killed stacy, kathleen, stacy’s mom, john spira and on and on.
    Also when I look at what BB did to the Fox family and the stats of IL’s innocents on death row along. I have lots of doubts, then add in the paint story and not knocking on stacy’s door for over 10 hours. I’m right back on the fence.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Freedom, what about the Fox News and BB? Haven’t seen that. Do you have a link?

    Also, I think all those rumors about other people are just that…rumors. I don’t believe he’s involved in any of that either, and I feel sure that LE/GJ is investigating any of that if there is even a slight possibility of Drew’s involvement, wouldn’t you think?

    You know, in the state where I live, there have also been a lot of innocent people convicted and put on death row over the years, but the reports have said they are poor minorities that could not afford a good legal defense. Is that part of the problem in Illinois as well?

  82. You know, in the state where I live, there have also been a lot of innocent people convicted and put on death row over the years, but the reports have said they are poor minorities that could not afford a good legal defense. Is that part of the problem in Illinois as well?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    I would seriously doubt that. I think it’s just another way to try and get people to feel bad for them, support their cause, etc…
    Not a fan of the race card being played. If they are poor, it certainly isn’t because they are a minority.

  83. facs I just put the link up it’s not Fox News it’s a family called Fox from bolingbrook who’s daughter was taken from their home raped and murdered.
    LE charged the father with the murder even though DNA showed he wasnt.
    I don’t think the foxes were of the poor minority class.

  84. I know one thing. Once (if) LE charges Drew Peterson for these two crimes, any evidence/information they have will eventually have to be turned over to his defense team. That means ALL evidence, including evidence that will exculpate him.

    In the Fox case, there was some strange things going on, but, be mindful of one thing, he DID made an incriminating statement. Yes, it was later determined through legal proceedings that he was badgered, tired, and just wanted it to end. But, nonetheless, he DID make an incriminating statement.

    This has nothing to do with the Drew Peterson matter. LE has his time line, has their “evidence,” and it’s up to them to put it all together. So, until I see something come out to the contrary, I’ll let my eggs sit in Peterson’s basket, thank you.

  85. In the Fox case, there was some strange things going on, but, be mindful of one thing, he DID made an incriminating statement. Yes, it was later determined through legal proceedings that he was badgered, tired, and just wanted it to end. But, nonetheless, he DID make an incriminating statement.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Oh, I certainly have some opinions on this one. Yes, he made the statement, regardless of how it was made, it was made. Then he’s paid off for lying to get out of a situation. Yes, I was not a very happy camper on that deal…AT ALL!!

  86. Drew has suddenly become worried about Stacy……………that perhaps something has happened to her……!!??

  87. As to Peterson’s teen sons, I’m sorry, I don’t care how many times Brodsky comments on how smart they are, how they’re at the top of their classes, how Peterson says they’re “bored” with the news about Stacy, how adjusted they are, and how happy their home life is.

    IMHO, that’s the biggest bunch of crap I’ve ever heard. WHEN I hear those kids sing praises of their father, their homelife, how well adjusted they are and how settled-in they are, I’ll change my mind. Until then, I don’t believe there’s one, single parent who will buy into that garbage. Come on. Two boys lose two mothers in four years, and they’re happier than two peas in a pod? Not to mention being handed the responsibility of taking care of two small children while their POS father trolls around for female company? If one adult son had enough sense to see his father for what he really is, then it’s just as possible for those two to see it. They just don’t have the luxury of dumping him for a better life!

    That’s the biggest bunch of bull manure I’ve seen yet. That defies logic!!!!

  88. concerning fox and his statements, that happens alot after being interrogated for hours upon hours and I blame only LE for that. Their aggressive tatics lead to a false statement and LE should be held accountable for using those types of tatics.
    bottomline the man was innocent, LE had DNA evidence to prove he was innocent and instead ignored the evidence and forced a confession out of the man.
    They should have gotten their butts sued to high heaven.
    That is not seeking justice and what does it have to do with the peterson case. Very much those tatics are already being seen. Hence the state investagator brow beating the 22yo.
    It makes me sick.

  89. Oh, and in the Fox case, his wife said to him in the beginning, after the baby girl was discovered missing, “what did you do now”

    I still have my doubts about that one too, but it is what it is. He was exonerated and he is free. That’s the justice system, like it or not.

    People are found “not guilty.” Doesn’t mean, in my mind, they’re “innocent.”

  90. DNA evidence that he did not kill his daughter you can’t get much more evidence that he’s innocent then that.
    rescue did you hear his wife say that??

  91. freedom – no offense, but how many times have you been interrogated for hours for a felony? Where have you seen it happens a lot? They video tape interrogations now.

    Badgering of the 22 year old? Excuse me, that came from Brodsky and Peterson. So, you believe that, do you?

    Just asking. Don’t take offense.

  92. Forget it, freedom, “rescue did you hear his wife say that?”

    Oh, freedom, forget it. You certain have a way with nitpicking every thing I say. I’m not going there, thank you. If you want to challenge me on it, no, not going to happen. You get the last word on that.

  93. Also, does anyone have any information as to why the fsp fourm was taken down? There is alot of speculation but I would love to get hard information on this.

    Joel A. Brodsky

    The above was posted this morning. This is at least the third time Brodsky has asked this question publicly. He seems willing to play Q&A in order to get some help with his own questions. IMO this is the only reason he is blogging at this particular point in time.

    Again, I’ll say that if he wants info about FSP he’s really asking on the wrong forum.

    Also, if he wants to put the emphasis back on finding Stacy, his blog posts certainly make no indication of that.

  94. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Oh, and in the Fox case, his wife said to him in the beginning, after the baby girl was discovered missing, “what did you do now”
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Actually, it was more along the lines of “you’d better not have had anything to do with this.”

    Shady characters all around, but now they’ve got their pay day and seemingly have stopped the search for Riley’s killer.

  95. facsmiley – that is laughable. And if he gets an answer, where’s he going to run with it? Does he want to hear someone say “Joel, the reason the forum was shut down is because you wah, wah, wha’d to the FBI.”

  96. Facs, I really think he wanted to have something concrete to give Glenn Selig for his press relesase. They didn’t get it, so Glenn just stated that they had made complaints to the FBI, which I believe was trying to give the impression that the FBI shut them down. JMO.

  97. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    DNA evidence that he did not kill his daughter you can’t get much more evidence that he’s innocent then that.
    rescue did you hear his wife say that
    +++++++++++++

    All that the DNA evidence proved was that he didn’t have any of his DNA on her. DNA does not prove or dis-prove murder.

  98. hey jeepers why shouldnt we spread rumors about security systems at the neighbors. but let sharon broadcast to the world when kids are left alone. wheres her head at. and how do you know the boxes werent for a yard sale? did sharon tell ya. shes a liar. lied twice on tv that i know of. so i dont think you saying she said amounts to a hill of beans. i also dont think she will be a very good witness when its out there in black & white that she lied.

  99. yes, Kimmer, I had a lot of lingering questions in that matter too. Guess we’ll never know.

    As long as a high falutin’ lawyer made sure his “rights” were abused and he was paid dearly for it, I guess that’s what’s important, huh?

    And, I guess if his wife can live with what she knows, then they can all go on to live happily ever after.

    As an aside, I don’t doubt for a minute that she wandered out of that house and met with foul play. She wasn’t supervised to have been able to do that now, was she.

    So, maybe his rights were trampled on, but he gets to live with all that money now to help him get over the brutal death and rape of his baby girl.

    It’s his demons.

  100. so how did he kill her without leaving any DNA of his own. did he smear someone else’s DNA on her?
    rescue I asked you because it’s nothing more than rumor’s if you don’t have anything to back it up.
    The comment came from the 22yo concerning what the state investigator said to the girl not drew or jb.
    I’ve never been interrogated for a felony, have you? Feel free to google and see for yourself how many times someone has been brow beaten into a confession by LE. one time is too many for me.
    Either you have the evidence or you don’t . If you don’t keep looking until you find it.

  101. If Brodsky/Drew made complaints to the FBI about the FSP site, why don’t they just follow up, call the FBI and ask what was done?

    If they were the ones to file the complaint, why wouldn’t they get an answer in return?

    It seems bizarre to make a public appeal for info.

  102. Investigative Reports: FORCED CONFESSIONS

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  103. facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    If Brodsky/Drew made complaints to the FBI about the FSP site, why don’t they just follow up, call the FBI and ask what was done?

    If they were the ones to file the complaint, why wouldn’t they get an answer in return?

    It seems bizarre to make a public appeal for info.

    ********************

    Excellent point!!!!

  104. FindStacyPeterson.com Blog Taken Down
    Drew Peterson filed a complaint with the FBI saying the blog did more to spy on him than it did to help find his missing wife.
    ThePublicityAgency.com – May 20, 2008

    Last month Drew Peterson offered a $25,000 reward for Stacy Peterson’s safe return.

    (PRNewsChannel) / Bolingbrook, Ill. – When Stacy Peterson disappeared, the FindStacyPeterson.com blog became a hub for information for concerned family, friends and members of the community.

    But in the months since, her husband Drew Peterson, a suspect in her disappearance, has complained that the site has done little to find his missing wife, and instead, had become a vehicle to spy on him, discuss plans to harass him, and to reveal his personal comings and goings.

    The site, he says, had intruded on his personal life and Peterson filed two complaints against the blog–one with the FBI and one with local authorities.

    While the information Web site is still online, the popular blog has now been taken down.

    A message on the site reads: We are restructuring our site to become an information based only site. Thank you to all who have have contributed to the forum.

    “I’m not certain if the complaints we made caused the authorities to take the blog down or if it was something else,” says Joel A. Brodsky, Peterson’s criminal defense attorney, “but they crossed the line with the site there’s no doubt about it.”

    Drew Peterson says he’s pleased the blog has been dropped and he hopes the focus can now shift back to finding Stacy.

    “I hope people start focusing on finding Stacy instead of my personal life,” says Peterson.

    Peterson says Stacy spoke with him before she disappeared and told him that she was leaving with another man. He says he too can’t understand why she has not been located when so many people are looking for her.

    And Peterson now says he is growing increasingly worried and fears someone, perhaps the man she ran off with, has harmed her or is preventing her from making contact.

    “I wasn’t that worried for a long time,” says Peterson. “But now I am.”

    He says he hoped a $25,000 reward he offered last month for information leading to Stacy’s safe return would’ve produced some productive leads. But it hasn’t.

    “My children miss their mother,” says Peterson. “Yes I’m mad that she left me for another man and caused the world to suspect me in her disappearance. But I am now also very concerned.”

    He says he hopes that with the findstacypeterson.com blog dismantled, maybe the focus will shift back to finding Stacy rather than wasting time watching his every move.

    Media Contacts:
    Joel A. Brodsky, Drew Peterson’s Attorney Phone: (312) 701-3000 or
    Glenn Selig, ThePublicityAgency.com, glenn (at) thepublicityagency.com, (813) 948-7767

    To view this press release online, please visit http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=548&z=9

    Source Web Site: ThePublicityAgency.com

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=548&z=4

  105. yeah kimmer talk is cheap when you aren’t sitting in the interrogation room hours upon end being accused of killing your daughter.

  106. Drew & Shron spying on each from another blog:

    Drew at night dressed in his black ninja outfit peering out of his darkend living room with binoculars and Sharon in her darkend living room peering out through holes cut in the eyes of a Stacy poster.

  107. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    yeah kimmer talk is cheap when you aren’t sitting in the interrogation room hours upon end being accused of killing your daughter.
    +++++++++++++
    talk may be cheap, but morals and values speak volumes.

  108. morals and values?? yeah if LE would have used them then an innocent man would not have sued the county and won!

  109. Boy, we better get some solid news information soon, because I’m not likin’ the idea of picturing Sharon looking through the holes cut out of the eyes of a SP poster!

  110. This is my guess about Brodsky’s plaintive appeals for info.

    He wants really badly to say that it was the FBI that shut the site down, but he can’t because he has no confirmation. But if he can get someone else to say it – an ‘uninterested party’, then he can quote them. “Sources confirm that blah blah blah”.

    Did someone already say this? Sorry if so – I was in the shower!

  111. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    yeah, freedom, and admitting to it.
    —-

    big SIGH! why did he admit to it? did it all just fly over your head? you can go on and on all you want he was innocent and the county paid a pretty penny for their lack of values and morals.
    the killer is still on the loose and IMO Will county has some serious LE issues.
    2 missing women within 6 months no clue where they are no arrests, john spira still missing no clue as to where he went and all the others still missing or unsolved.
    guess thats why they have to browbeat innocents into confessions they lack investigating skills to find the real killers.

  112. Rescue, I truly hope it didn’t offend you. I read it on SYM and nearly died laughing. There was also another one about Drew and Sharon dressed up in bush costumes moving about their yards until the neighbor’s dog came for a visit.

  113. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    good for you, cfs. You said something that was agreeable to freedom!

    grow up you big baby!

  114. freedom – you have some heavy issues to work out. Good luck. I wish you well.

    Why don’t we just lighten up and be respectful of one another. I really don’t feel comfortable blogging with you, so if you don’t mind, I’ll just ignore you and you can ignore me. No offense. No digs, no name calling. Just that I’m not on the same wave length with you, okay?

    Truce.

  115. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    freedom – you have some heavy issues to work out. Good luck. I wish you well.

    Why don’t we just lighten up and be respectful of one another. I really don’t feel comfortable blogging with you, so if you don’t mind, I’ll just ignore you and you can ignore me. No offense. No digs, no name calling. Just that I’m not on the same wave length with you, okay?

    Truce.

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    rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    good for you, cfs. You said something that was agreeable to freedom!
    —-

    yes please ignore me!

  116. facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    This is my guess about Brodsky’s plaintive appeals for info.

    He wants really badly to say that it was the FBI that shut the site down, but he can’t because he has no confirmation. But if he can get someone else to say it – an ‘uninterested party’, then he can quote them. “Sources confirm that blah blah blah”.

    Did someone already say this? Sorry if so – I was in the shower!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I said something similar Facs a little earlier. Think he was trying to get it confirmed for the Selig press release, but since he couldn’t they just stated they had complained to the FBI, and were trying to give the “impression” that’s why the forum was closed.

  117. A blog is not a forum!! Dang it.

    BLOG:
    A blog (an abridgment of the term web log) is a website, usually maintained by an individual, with regular entries of commentary, descriptions of events, or other material such as graphics or video.

    INTERNET FORUM:
    An Internet forum is a web application for holding discussions and posting user-generated content. Internet forums are also commonly referred to as Web forums, message boards, discussion boards, (electronic) discussion groups, discussion forums, bulletin boards, fora (the Latin plural) or simply forums.

    I need to dry my hair and get out of the house…

  118. It’s on the Tribune web site about the forum

    Administrators for findstacypeterson.com have shut down the active forum on the Web site dedicated to the missing Bolingbrook mother, saying the site will now only be used for updates, searches and events.

    The Web site started shortly after Stacy Peterson disappeared Oct. 28 and once boasted at least 1,600 registered users from as far away as Australia who posted thousands of messages about her case.

    The activity on the site slowed in recent months, said Sharon Bychowski, a friend and neighbor of Stacy Peterson. Site administrators felt the forum had run its course.

    Peterson was 23 when she vanished. Her husband, Drew Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, has been named a suspect in the investigation. Peterson, 54, denies any wrongdoing, and no charges have been filed.

  119. These are comment threads attached to Danya’s WordPress blog posts.

    We use it as a forum but it really isn’t set up as one – that’s why they are so nice to create daily threads for us.

    That’s also why the threads tend to crap out when we get a lot of posts on them. They aren’t really set up to carry hundreds of comments after each post.

  120. Just saw it mentioned on Channel 9 news, which, of course, is affiliated with the Tribune.

    GJ finishing up, forum curtailed, Brodsky throwing out new theories. Maybe something is up?????

  121. Good, because it is easier to say blogging then it is to say foruming. I have a hard time with that.

  122. Rescue, I’ll take it to SYM so he can see it and put his PI on it. I don’t know if anybody has said, but I believe his PI is John Carroll, one of the attorneys on this case. He was also an investigator before he became an attorney. Brodsky was talking about paying $250 to find all sorts of public information on a person, and that’s how they were trying to find Stacy. WELL!! Any one of us could pay the fee and join any number of sites that do that sort of thing. Geez!!

  123. Do ya think we’re going to have to endure Brodsky getting his mug on tv again?

    Cuz, if so, I’ll need to git my popp corns and sodda to handle yet another rond.

    Excuse my spelling. I’m just trying to talk to Brodsky too so he understands me, LOL!

  124. There is only one person who stood to gain from the murder of Kathleen Savio — Drew Peterson. He was the only person who stood to gain financially in that suspicous time period between their divorce and hearing for financial settlement.

    What other person would gain from her death? Not her boyfriend, for he was not in the will. There’s nothing that has ever been established that her two young boys were ever violent. Stacy had a baby at home to care for. I’m sure she didn’t like Kathleen, but I have seen NOTHING reported that could indicate she were possible of murder.

    However, Drew has told multiple wives that he could, “…kill them and make it look like an accident”.

    He probably did not know that Kathleen Savio was already talking to her family and documenting the domestic violence in her relationship with Drew Peterson.

    In fact, it was probably after Stacy’s presumed death, that he learned that Kathleen had written to the prosecuting attorney detailing the day Drew attacked her on the staircase in her home. She detailed the way he told her, in effect, “I’m not giving you a penny. You need to just die. Are you afraid?”. You can read about it on the America’s Most Wanted website, amw.com

    Drew Peterson needs to be VERY afraid. For the documentation and witness testimony of his past will be all that is needed to put him away for life.

    Let the trial begin as soon as possible. I’m ready to see a resolution in finding justice for Kathleen Savio and Stacy Peterson.

  125. cfs – the GJ has two more sessions left in May. This week and next week. Just by seeing that it looks like they’re winding down with “substantial witnesses,” I’m not so sure they’ll extend the GJ. Maybe yes, maybe no. But, this session is due to expire at the end of May.

    Wouldn’t you agree it may be the beginning of the end?

  126. The activity on the site slowed in recent months, said Sharon Bychowski, a friend and neighbor of Stacy Peterson. Site administrators felt the forum had run its course.
    ++++++++++++++++
    spin, spin, spin…I don’t buy this excuse. That site was always busier right before and right after a fun-raiser.

    It’s nice to have a reporter like Erica to stick up for FSP.

    Also, Blog = web log. Known for recording information and keeping it stored on an internet forum.

  127. stacy gained just as much as drew did from KS death.
    that’s the only other person that would have anything to gain from her death.
    as kathleen friend stated

    stacy wanted to take over kathleens life.

  128. spin is what everyone involved does. I wouldn’t expect Peterson to say he killed his wives, anymore than I would expect the forum administrators to say they were ceasing activity for adverse reasons.

    But, it just seems coincidental that, in the last few days, things have taken a turn. Brodsky is throwing out new ideas (boyfriends being responsible for the deaths of his wives), blogging for ideas, GJ possibly winding down, forum stopping. Lots of things that make ME think something’s up.

  129. Stacy gained nothing. On October 28, 2007, she was tried and sentenced to death without a trial, by her husband, Drew Peterson.

  130. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    cfs – the GJ has two more sessions left in May. This week and next week. Just by seeing that it looks like they’re winding down with “substantial witnesses,” I’m not so sure they’ll extend the GJ. Maybe yes, maybe no. But, this session is due to expire at the end of May.

    Wouldn’t you agree it may be the beginning of the end?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I would really hope so, but don’t really know. The teens haven’t testified yet, that I know of, and I’ve felt all along that their testimony may come after the school year ends for their benefit. Maybe not. I’m just wondering now if their testimony/statements to LE is going to be used instead of having them testify at the GJ.

    Yes, I’m goinna git my sodie popp and snecks ready for that show two!!

  131. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    kimmer – you mean LE coming up empty handed?
    +++++++++++++
    Nah, I mean a whole lot of nothing. I don’t think there is going to be much going on in this case until they find her body…which starts with actually searching.

    I think there will be more action on the KS case front. And I think it will be proven that SP had something to do with it…alibi, aide, whatever.

  132. And I believe that Drew is not only guilty of the murders of Kathleen Savio and Stacy Peterson, but also others.

    He has lived his entire adult life pursuing his desire to control, manipulate and dominate. He knew when folks were down, and he knew how to manipulate them to get what he wanted.

    He dreamed of being a cop since he was in high school, if not before. It took awhile, but he developed his technique of control and domination over women. As long as he got what he wanted, he could be charming.

    But the first time they dumped him, he got his feelings hurt. Then he would to on a tirade of jealous rage, childish behaviour for the most part.

    Just look at the time his ex-fiance Kyle Piry broke up with Drew. He was so jealous that he spent the next year harassing her by pulling her over for trivial, non-typical, infractions. It was obvious that he just wanted to ‘diss’ her because she dumped him.

    If he had dumped her, according to his ridiculous statement, then he would have just forgotten about her and not harassed her for a long, long time.

  133. I agree about KS case. I think that will be the first focus for LE. It’s almost as though the feelings, one way or another, have been so passionate about SP, that the KS crime stayed under the radar for months. But, in all reality, if they have substantial evidence to charge him, he could just as well rot in a prison for her murder. They have a body!

  134. 58 – he has had an ugly portrait painted of him! They haven’t exactly been coming out of the woodwork to say anything nice about him.

    Now that he has a PR agency, if there’s so many people as he claims that are in his corner, why isn’t the PR agency setting up another staged event for all to see. After all, he whined on LKL that people are shut down when they try to come out on his behalf. So, bring ’em on, I say. Let’s see what you’ve got.

    I’ve got my popp cern and sodda.

  135. Right Rescue, and if he’s found guilty of killing Kathleen if it goes to trial, it will be easier to show he could have just as well have killed Stacy. Kimmer, I know you feel they have to find Stacy’s body, but I don’t believe they ever will. Drew has had too much time to make sure of that.

  136. Drew has had too much time to make sure of that.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Well, this means that you are positive he’s guilty and hidden the body. But do you think he may have moved the body after putting it somewhere the first time?

  137. cfs – I still believe it is possible to find her body.

    First of all, my personal way of thinking is, when they were searching the canal, I don’t necessarily think it was for her body. I think they may have been looking for other pieces of evidence that could easily have been tossed in there. Him getting rid of small items, etc., may not have been that much of a focus for him, thus, tossing it into the canal. Think about it. He wasn’t expecting the exposure, interest and focus that Stacy’s disappearance got. I believe he truly thought by saying she “walked,” without anything concrete, he could get away with it. If not, he’d point his finger towards her “text” message boy.

    As to finding her body, I think, nonetheless, he was “under the gun.” He didn’t necessarily plan on killing her at that specific time, but he did, and he didn’t have a whole lot of room to plan things out! So, he did what he had to do. Hopefully, he slipped up somewhere along the way.

  138. Look, these are some of his statements, and I’m sure you’re all familiar with them, but just think about them a minute:

    She left with another man.
    She found someone else.
    She’s where she wants to be.
    She’s either going to surface or go deeper underground.

    Everyone of these could be true, unfortunately in a very “sinister” way, but I definitely don’t think they’re true in the way he wants people to believe they are.

  139. Also, what I find interesting, is the “time line” phone call he received from Cassandra.

    He could not foresee that Cassandra would be calling him on his cell phone. If he let it go to voicemail, he wouldn’t have a clue as to what she wanted. He had to answer it to find that out. By doing so, it put him in a specific area at a specific time. That must be worth something as far as finding her body. Maybe a large area to cover, but one of focus, nonetheless.

  140. Rescue, the only reason I MIGHT change my mind about a body being discovered is now that Drew is saying the man she left with may have “caused her harm.” That just looks like at attempt to say, if she’s found I didn’t do it.

    Kimmer, yes I do believe 100% that he is guilty. If he’s not, then I will be the first to apologize. It’s not up to me to convict him in a court of law because I live in another state that won’t be part of the jury pool, but in the court of public opinion, I have definitely rendered my verdict. Sorry if you disagree, but that’s my opinion, and I repsect yours, even if it differs from mine.

  141. Joel Brodsky’s only hope at this point is to go to blogs and try to dissuade people of the obvious.

    He knows that there are thousands of people following and researching the murders of Kathleen Savio and Stacy Peterson.

    So, his only hope is to get all those, in his eyes, evil people who cared for Stacy Peterson and Kathleen Savio and rip them apart.

    But, it will fail. There is way too much documentation and evidence of his history to scam a jury.

    Oh, he may have temporarily post-poned his guilt in the murder of Kathleen. But a pattern has been established. People are not so stupid to believe the deaths of these two women just ‘happened’.

    So, I understand why Brodsky wants to go to the blogs and paint Stacy as an accessory. That is part of the job of the defense attorney. They have a desire to take every person who cared for the victim and paint them as sinister, crazy, or owing $40k in back child support.

    That’s why they hire private investigators — to find some fault with witnesses of the prosecution.

    Honestly, I don’t know how Joel Brodsky sleeps at night. Being a sleazy defense attorney is, quite honestly, worse than a used car salesman, and that is might low, in my opinion.

  142. Well, if she didn’t call him, then the information about the $25,000 and the bikini she has relayed as public information is shot down too.

    Because, isn’t that when he told her “she left, just like her mother?” So, that is all fabricated?

  143. cfs7360 // May 20, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Right Rescue, and if he’s found guilty of killing Kathleen if it goes to trial, it will be easier to show he could have just as well have killed Stacy. Kimmer, I know you feel they have to find Stacy’s body, but I don’t believe they ever will. Drew has had too much time to make sure of that.
    ______________________

    If all they have on the KS case is the second autopsy, they will never get a conviction on that alone. There would be too many holes the defense could poke in it. Second, IF they were to charge him for KS, JB could always challenge the validity of the 2nd autopsy and possible make it inadmissable.

    For the SP case, if they only have Morphey again the defense could poke holes in him….he would bring up his mental stability. Also if he really did try to commit suicide and that’s when he made the infamous blue barrel statement, then again JB could possible get that deemed inadmissable based on his mental stability at the time the statement was made.

    If they want a conviction in either case, they better have some hard forensic evidence or if he had a partner in crime they better cut a deal with that person and get them to flip and testify against DP.

    I think even if they found a body if there are no forensics to go with it….they still can’t tie it to Drew.

  144. ah, shoot, kimmer – I’m just going to say it. Cassandra was on tv immediately after this story broke, I believe on camera with Greta, and she relayed the phone call. I have no reason to think otherwise. I don’t see a reason to think otherwise. That’s an opinion I formed and that’s an opinion I use to get to a certain place in my way of thinking. I can’t debate the phone call issue because I believe it did happen.

    Until I see contrary information, there’s where I’m sticking. Just as I have formed my opinion about the man, Mr. Peterson. He convinced me by his mass media craving that he is evil, and that he could very well be responsible for the deaths of his two wives. I also believe that if he didn’t do it himself, if he had someone help him or do it for him, he’d let them take the fall for him if it’d save his sorry butt.

  145. Joel, you should be proud. Do you pay benefits or are you paying as contractors?

    Just curious…

    Thanks!

  146. kimmer78 // May 20, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Drew has had too much time to make sure of that.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Well, this means that you are positive he’s guilty and hidden the body. But do you think he may have moved the body after putting it somewhere the first time?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I think it’s possible that he could have if he felt it wasn’t disposed of as well he thought it should be. Not ruling it out anyway.

  147. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    why is drew not an official suspect in Kathleen’s death?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Good question. Still gathering “evidence” maybe?

  148. Probably the first, second (unofficial, independent) and third autopsies all show the same thing. It’s not the autopsies that are in issue, I believe. It’s the way the death panel ruled on the cause of death.

    We all know now how shoddy the whole thing was. A police officer testified at the panel who wasn’t at the scene and didn’t attend the autopsy.

    How can the present State’s Attorney make a public statement that as soon as he saw the “crime scene” photos, he knew the scene was a staged drowning? What’s up with that?

  149. Also, does anyone have any information as to why the fsp fourm was taken down? There is alot of speculation but I would love to get hard information on this.
    ______________
    It is important to them.

    FSP was a source of information for them too.

    DP is getting nervous. Maybe they are getting close?

    I read with interest the post about Dresden Dam being closed. Wonder if it has anything to do with Sonia’s psychic experience. Maybe they did a land search and that panned out, so they went ahead with the water search?

    And I apologize for my incorrect post about Glenn Selig (thanks freedom). I really do need a Fact Checker installed.

  150. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Joel, you should be proud. Do you pay benefits or are you paying as contractors?

    Just curious…

    Thanks!
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Grow up, would ya? That is the lamest come back I’ve heard in forever.

    Just like many have the right to not believe what DP says, I can disbelieve what the others in this case say, including DP.

  151. cfs they didn’t wait until they were done with gathering all the evidence to name him a suspect in stacy’s disappeance.
    My guess is they have either ruled him out as a suspect or they have nothing and can’t offically call him a suspect in her death. Or someone else is responsible for her death.
    who knows I just think it’s very telling that many are convicting him of Kathleens death but yet he’s not even an official suspect.

  152. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Joel, you should be proud. Do you pay benefits or are you paying as contractors?

    Just curious…

    Thanks!
    —————–

    lol, thanks apache for clearing up the type of logic you don’t use.
    apache58 to me you have no credibility, when are you going to brag again about all the money you have to keep the searches going for Stacy, all the while fsp is having fund raisers. What did they forget to cash your check??

  153. Itssal said:
    If all they have on the KS case is the second autopsy, they will never get a conviction on that alone. There would be too many holes the defense could poke in it. Second, IF they were to charge him for KS, JB could always challenge the validity of the 2nd autopsy and possible make it inadmissable.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    We can debate these cases all day long, but no one knows what kind of, or how much, evidence LE or the GJ has in either case because nothing has been released to the public. Bottom line, I guess we can speculate guilt or innocence till the cows come home, but we won’t know anything until the GJ concludes and if these cases are going to trial or not. If they do, then we can debate guilt or innocence until the juries hand out their verdicts. In the meantime, it’s entertaining to hear the many various opinions on thee cases, and also get a chance to express our own. I love hearing what others think, and getting the opportunity to share discussions.

  154. no problem rescue we all miss things when we read.

    I do hope they search dresden, all though unless they have some other reason/evidence then a physic I doubt LE would.

  155. But in the months since, Drew Peterson, her husband and a suspect in her disappearance, complained that the site has done little to find his wife, and instead become a vehicle to spy on him, discuss plans to harass him, and to reveal his personal comings and goings, according to a release from Peterson’s attorney.

    ********************

    Peterson and Brodsky better work on getting this site shut down too, because this is the first place I saw the name of a woman he was sitting on his porch with.

    It was distasteful, and just plain wrong, but, nonetheless, this is where it was first mentioned.

    He is an ass for making stupid remarks like that. There’s plenty of sites that deal with the likes of Peterson and his Bozo lawyer. Shut ’em all done you idiots.

  156. Drew Peterson says he’s pleased the blog has been dropped and he hopes the focus can now shift back to finding Stacy.

    “I hope people start focusing on finding Stacy instead of my personal life,” says Peterson.

    ______________________
    The first person Drew should start with as far as “people focusing on finding Stacy” is himself … and his lawyer.

    Tell Joel to stop asking why FSP blog … uh, forum shut down!

    And thanks to whoever explained the difference above. Rescueapet? Facs?

  157. Actually Rescue, I think it was on this site by another poster where the woman was mentioned several weeks ago.

  158. I’ll see if I can find it, but pretty sure it was. Won’t post the actually post, but will let you know where to find it.

  159. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    no problem rescue we all miss things when we read.

    I do hope they search dresden, all though unless they have some other reason/evidence then a physic I doubt LE would.
    ________________
    That’s why I’m wondering if they did the land search first … and did find something where the psychic thought they would.

    And that is why Dresden Dam is being serviced.

    Logic? Probably not. Hope? Most definitely.

  160. Yes, cfs, it was on THIS site that a woman was publicly named by a poster as being with Peterson. THIS site.

    There’s plenty of sites that have no use for either of them, so they’d better get that gum out of their mugs and start plugging up the holes, because the dams are’a burstin’.

  161. And I am of the opinion that the forum part of FSP is only closed to the public. It is now a private place for the family, friends, and select members to post.

    IMO

  162. oh good point noway on the land search. it does seem odd that they are doing “maintenance on the lock today”

  163. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    And I am of the opinion that the forum part of FSP is only closed to the public. It is now a private place for the family, friends, and select members to post.

    IMO
    ++++++++++++++++++
    I think I tend to agree with that.

  164. And, I think it was just as rude and ignorant to do it here, as it would be anywhere else.

    I’m sick and tired of fsp taking the heat for everything.

    JMHO.

  165. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    And I am of the opinion that the forum part of FSP is only closed to the public. It is now a private place for the family, friends, and select members to post.

    IMO
    —-

    and that is how it should have been from the getgo. IMO

  166. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    And, I think it was just as rude and ignorant to do it here, as it would be anywhere else.

    I’m sick and tired of fsp taking the heat for everything.

    JMHO.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Many are sick and tired of everything being DP’s fault. pretty sure they tried to blame the cyclone and earthquake on him and Brodsky too.

  167. Rescue, this is where the big debate about the
    started on here. Whew! What a mess!! Actually, this is when this site starting getting so busy.

    The search for Stacy: Week in review
    April 18, 2008 · 2,203 Commentswoman

  168. kimmer – blame the cyclone and earthquake on him and Brodsky?

    WTF? What has that got to do with my comment saying I’m sick and tired of fsp taking the heat for everything, when, I was making a point that a woman’s name was published on this blog.

    Wasn’t that kind of silly?

  169. Since last week, FSP has shut down the forums. Knowing they were being talked about in other place on the net, they still chose not to address the money issue.

    A simple statement of purpose would do.
    The organizational documents would do.
    But still nothing, not one word.

    We do know they are not a 501(c)(3) organization as they claimed. The number they used is TIN: 51-0661911.

    Today I spoke with:

    IL Attorney General’s Office 312-814-2595
    *Carolina* said: Nothing on file for FoSP, no application.
    She also told me that by law, they should be registered.
    (last week I spoke with *Deborah*)

    IL Secretary of State Office 312-793-3380
    *Frances* said: Nothing on file, no application.
    She also told me that a donation over $249 to a questionable organization could be looked into by the feds, or the SAG. She gave me the number to the Charitable Trust Accounts dept, at SAG (which I had just gotten off the phone with)
    (last week I spoke with *Wendy*)

    IRS 877-829-5500
    *Miss Winkler, Badge number 1756985* said: No record.
    They are not a 501(c)(3)
    *but* certain groups are not required to register, for example, if their income is less than $5,000, or if they qualify to operate under “group rulings”. She said the organizational documents would state the purpose, and that I should contact the organization.

    Here is the “Friends of Stacy Peterson”

    FoSP board and committee:
    Board Member
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Sharon Bychowski
    Kerry Simmons
    Debbie Forgue
    Anthony Laatz

    Commitee
    ~~~~~~~
    Carol Penning
    Amy Aldworth
    Stephanie Kreidler
    Roy Taylor
    Carrie Taylor
    Jacque Tiegs
    Margie Oftedahl

    Required 3 to sign checks:
    Sharon, Kerry, Debbie

    *************************************************

    Now, this part is my opinion… FoSP ought to get their crap together and come up with something to say. They had better tell the truth though. I know I will check it out.

    Reporters are useless, afraid to say any of this. This was done in 30 minutes. I can take 30 minutes every Tuesday until answers are forthcoming. Fine with me.

  170. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    kimmer – blame the cyclone and earthquake on him and Brodsky?

    WTF? What has that got to do with my comment saying I’m sick and tired of fsp taking the heat for everything, when, I was making a point that a woman’s name was published on this blog.

    Wasn’t that kind of silly?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Exactly, it was meant to be just as silly as it sounded. WTF? It was to prove that there are so many accusations flying about DP, SP, KS and FSP and nothing really proven…except for Amanda’s excellent post.

  171. The forum is not dead. The forum has moved.

    When you have folks stalking every thread and reporting on blogs about posting comment counts changing, then it is time to move to another site.

  172. Rescue, I used to visit FSP, joined for a day to donate, then canceled my membership. It was just too much for me! Too much mean, hateful, cruel, silly, and ridiculous stuff going on there. Yes, there were some, from all appearances, wonderful people affiliated with the site, but it just ran rampant with nonsense for the most part. I’m truly glad the forum is gone, because I believe it very detrimental to the whole purpose of finding Stacy. I know it really turned me off, and I’m not easily turned off or offended by things. Sorry if this offends any of you, but the only good thing about it were the informational items on there.

  173. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    The forum is not dead. The forum has moved.

    When you have folks stalking every thread and reporting on blogs about posting comment counts changing, then it is time to move to another site.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    Then why not say that…just one more lie from the FSP.

  174. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    The forum is not dead.
    ******************
    The forum is dead! Long live the forum!

    Sorry, that was silly too. 🙂

    I’m actually glad they can all still chat, but out of the public eye.

  175. In all honesty, I will never understand the obsession that people have with a site dedicated to finding a missing person. It makes no sense.

    For weeks, this blog has had a plethora of pathetic and trivial complaints of a website dedicated to finding a missing person.

    Last week, one of the posters here tried to bait me into a conversation regarding a person selling bumper stickers. BUMPER STICKERS!!

    And what were these bumper stickers for, you ask? To keep the name and image of a missing wife and mother in the public eye, seeking justice. And this person wanted to bait me into that conversation, as if I cared ONE FLIP about someone selling a bumper sticker.

    Does ANYONE today care one bit if someone is selling bumper stickers to find a missing wife and mother of 4 minor children?

    Do you care? Stand up and identify yourself, please! Tell us why it is so dang important for you to point out that SOMEONE is selling a bumper sticker in the effort to find a missing, and presumed DEAD mother of 4 children.

  176. freedom08 // May 20, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    oh good point noway on the land search. it does seem odd that they are doing “maintenance on the lock today”
    __________________
    I don’t know if it’s odd or not to do maintenance on the dam … today or any day.

    Could someone from the area comment? Or if you’re not from the area but have dam knowledge.

  177. TELL THE FULL STORY THERE APACHE:

    I took issue with it becuase those bumper stickers were being sold by the Bbrook Village Clerk ON village time, that MY tax dollars pay for.

    And as a taxpayer when I called for an explanation, I was accused by the Village Clerk of not wanting SP found.

    Complete stories. Omission is a lie…then again, why should I be surprised.

  178. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    In all honesty, I will never understand the obsession that people have with a site dedicated to finding a missing person. It makes no sense.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    58 Apache, you’ve pretty much answered why there was an obsession. It WAS supposed to be a missing person’s site, but it was really more about cats, coffee talk, and bashing Drew than Stacy from what anyone could see just stopping by for a visit. Sorry, but that’s really true. Your front door is always the first impression!

  179. I won’t say anything more about CFS now. Moving on……….Noway, I don’t have any “dam” knowledge!

  180. hehehe keep on apache it’s great to know that fsp has lied AGAIN!!

    dang can anyone in this tragedy speak the truth?

  181. kimmer78 // May 20, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    TELL THE FULL STORY THERE APACHE:

    I took issue with it becuase those bumper stickers were being sold by the Bbrook Village Clerk ON village time, that MY tax dollars pay for.
    *****************

    Yes Kimmer. I remember. I thought it was very petty and small of you.

  182. hasn’t bolingbrook had many issue’s of corruption in it’s clerks office?
    selling bumber stickers for a personal issue from the city’s clerks office is another form of corruption!!
    wow I can see the law suits now if drew is innocent!!
    using city property for personal use, using the clerks office for personal use.
    yeah stand up if you think your city officials should conduct personal business from the clerks office.

  183. cfs7360 // May 20, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    I won’t say anything more about CFS now.
    ***************************

    LOL, I thought you were getting all full of yourself and starting to address yourself in the third person like me saying “Facsmiley don’t roll that way. Facsmiley is keepin’ it real”.
    🙂

  184. Well if those bumper stickers were to find Stacy Peterson…then anyone who saw them must have thought they were supposed to look for Stacey Peterson.

    Futhermore APACHE, I will stand up and say that I take issue with them collecting money and not accounting for it and spending it on items that are not required. PERFECT EXAMPLE, why but a boat to look. I am sure someone could donate one…but if you buy one then guess what…somebodies got a new fishing boat under the guise that it will be used to find Stacy. I would like to ask IF Stacy is ever found…what will become of that boat?

    And now that you’ve got me thinking….I wonder who paid for those “security” cameras that Sharon has on her house….was that paid for by the FoSP.

    It all boils down to if they would just account the money and what’s been done with it people would not be able to question it if it was legit.

    There is some reason they will not open their books. They have had plenty of time to get their shit together.

  185. I’m not sure I would take issue with someone using my tax dollars to find a missing person. More productive than playing solitaire like the state employees here. 😉

  186. Facs- you have every right to have that opinion. Just as I have a right to have a say in how my tax dollars are spent. Especially in light of the previous problems with money and Bolingbrook.

    I wouldn’t have even bothered to call or write had they actually filed for the tax status they said that did back in January. What is so damn hard about telling the truth?

  187. Yeah, I don’t care. I care about the guy who killed the woman and maybe killed the other woman too.

  188. IMO – I do not get the obsession over the funds. Someone please explain this obsession to me. Did one of you donate thousands and that is why you are concerned?

  189. cfs7360 // May 20, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    I meant FSP, SORRY!!!
    —-

    lol thanks I could not figure out what you were refering to!!

    I have no “dam knowledge” either

  190. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    I’m not sure I would take issue with someone using my tax dollars to find a missing person. More productive than playing solitaire like the state employees here
    +++++++++++++++
    Well, when my tax dollars are nearly a mortgage payment per month, I tend to like to know where they’re going and if they’re being spent properly.

  191. I would just about bet that if someone looked in the Employee Handbook for the city employees, it probably states that you are not to conduct personal business on company time or solicit funds.

    Now you can bet your bottom, that if Steve Peterson were sitting in the PD selling FREE DREW bumper stickers…..they would be ALL OVER that and it would not be petty at all.

    Wrong is wrong no matter what.

  192. It was a bumper sticker. A BUMPER STICKER!

    Now tell me there is not an ulterior motive in that type of accusation. Someone, please, defend that.

    It was not an attempt to tell a lie or defame anyone. It was not political.

    It was a bumper sticker created in an attempt to keep the awareness of a missing mother.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors a website to keep track of the posting counts of comments on the website.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors when one particular person’s messages are removed from a website.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors when a person puts up a camera in or on their home for whatever reason.

  193. gotoutandhappynow // May 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    IMO – I do not get the obsession over the funds. Someone please explain this obsession to me. Did one of you donate thousands and that is why you are concerned?
    ____________________

    I’ll tell you why I am so concerned because exploiting a missing person is not a FOR PROFIT business which is exactly what the FoSP have made it.

    Can you tell me if you think it is right to make money off of exploiting a possible dead woman’s life?

  194. gotoutandhappynow // May 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    IMO – I do not get the obsession over the funds. Someone please explain this obsession to me. Did one of you donate thousands and that is why you are concerned?
    +++++++++++++++++
    Many had not problems donating. That said, if you donated .01 and asked for a tax ID number or if they were not for profit…you were called a troll and banned.

    I take issue that something isn’t right and when questions are asked, they are ignored. Not to mention many other donators still have to answer to their employers for the matching donations, or may end up having to re-file their tax returns becuase they were told FSP was non-profit (tax exempt) and now all of the sudden they aren’t.

  195. bottomline if FSP/FOSP can’t be truthful even about the funds why on earth would they have any credibility?
    Why do you think the IRS makes non-profit info about an org public? Because it’s illegal to collect money under false pretenses.
    you can whine all year long how it’s for a missing person’s site so why does anyone even care but truth of the matter is it’s illegal to collect $$$$ under false pretenses.
    It’s not ok to break the law just because someone is missing.

  196. gotoutandhappynow // May 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    IMO – I do not get the obsession over the funds. Someone please explain this obsession to me. Did one of you donate thousands and that is why you are concerned?
    ****************

    No, no, no. It’s just a way to make the story about them and their obsession with FSP and their bitterness over getting booted. They’re able to twist it into an excuse to cozy up with the suspect’s lawyer even if it means getting in the way of finding a missing woman or charging the suspect.

    It’s entirely selfish. They’ll bolster each other up with arguments about justice and freedom, but it just comes down to pettiness and hurt feelings.

    Sorry, but I’ve read their arguments over and over and over and that’s all it ever looks like to me.

  197. LOL Facs, you be keepin’ it real?? I think I’ve just been at my computer too long today. Need to step away for awhile. Trying to work at home today, but keep flipping back and forth to here to check in. Can’t keep my nose out of what’s going on on here today!

  198. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    It was a bumper sticker. A BUMPER STICKER!

    Now tell me there is not an ulterior motive in that type of accusation. Someone, please, defend that.

    It was not an attempt to tell a lie or defame anyone. It was not political.

    It was a bumper sticker created in an attempt to keep the awareness of a missing mother.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors a website to keep track of the posting counts of comments on the website.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors when one particular person’s messages are removed from a website.

    And I don’t trust anyone who monitors when a person puts up a camera in or on their home for whatever reason.
    ________

    I don’t care if it was a starlight mint with Have a Nice Day printed on it. They were making money off of selling those stickers and using it for what….to buy Sharon’s son a new fishing boat?

  199. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    It was a bumper sticker. A BUMPER STICKER!
    ++++++++++++
    That was being sold on my dime.

    I don’t trust people that sell bumper stickers out of village hall.

    I don’t trust people that post pictures of cats.

    I don’t trust people that can’t tell the truth that they haven’t filed for proper status as yet.

    I don’t trust people that use funds donated to find a missing woman to pay for hotels and meals for “volunteer” training for searches that aren’t taking place.

    I don’t trust people that will threated to kill the father of a missing woman’s children.

    SHALL I GO ON? PUT UP OR SHUT IT.

  200. itssal // May 20, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    I would just about bet that if someone looked in the Employee Handbook for the city employees, it probably states that you are not to conduct personal business on company time or solicit funds.

    Now you can bet your bottom, that if Steve Peterson were sitting in the PD selling FREE DREW bumper stickers…..they would be ALL OVER that and it would not be petty at all.

    Wrong is wrong no matter what.
    —-

    exactly and seems to many that wrong is OK in the name of finding Stacy.
    sad really sad!

  201. Plus I have yet to see one iota of proof that the funds were misused. Not a thing. Just these tiresome and wacked-out accusations.

  202. I don’t trust anyone that comes on a web site and claims they have all the $$$$ to back the search for stacy but doesn’t put their money where their post is.
    so apache why is FSP needing donations when they have your unlimited funds??
    nothing but more bs coming from you apache!

  203. facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    gotoutandhappynow // May 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    IMO – I do not get the obsession over the funds. Someone please explain this obsession to me. Did one of you donate thousands and that is why you are concerned?
    ****************

    No, no, no. It’s just a way to make the story about them and their obsession with FSP and their bitterness over getting booted. They’re able to twist it into an excuse to cozy up with the suspect’s lawyer even if it means getting in the way of finding a missing woman or charging the suspect.

    It’s entirely selfish. They’ll bolster each other up with arguments about justice and freedom, but it just comes down to pettiness and hurt feelings.

    Sorry, but I’ve read their arguments over and over and over and that’s all it ever looks like to me.
    ++++++++++++++

    Always goes back to us working for DP and his attny, doesn’t it? Bitter? Wow, if that ain’t the pot calling the kettle black, hmmm?

    Tell ya what…I had more nicks at FSP than anyone knew, not to mention people posting their obscene banter on my site to keep the rest of the question askers updated. We are hardly bitter. We don’t think that people should profit off the possible death of this woman. Do you?

  204. Why not just release the numbers? End all of the speculation…..just release the numbers…it’s that simple…..first it was they will be ready by Saturday …then it was it will two weeks……then it was after April 15th…..then it was in the next quarter…..yeah well the check is in the mail….I promise I’ll love you in the morning….blah…blah…..blah.

  205. Maybe Drew is watching for counterfeit Avon Products. He knows the last batch he bought from sharon were just not right.

  206. I would have to believe that if anyone thought that the donation fund was for profit, must be insane.

    Many of the people that are being accused of wrong doing have donated personal funds and many hours, volunteering, for the sole purpose of finding Stacy Peterson’s body. They did so not for notiriety or fame. They did so because they want justice for Stacy and her children and family. I highly respect that.

    Yes, it is true that they are searching for a body. Why??? Because the ISP has publicly announced, as was done on the Larry King Live show, that they believe that Stacy did not willingly leave her children, family, home, etc. , on 10/28/2007.

    Oh, maybe, some folks could believe she left in say, late October. But now, no contact for 6 months. Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, her own birthday and children’s birthday — no way, no how, end of story.

  207. So, I guess some of you believe that FoSP is not attempting to become not for profit? How do you know for sure – aside from amandareckonwith’s calls? Is there no chance FoSP is being honest?

    I guess I am trying to grasp the depth of what the complaints are.

  208. facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Plus I have yet to see one iota of proof that the funds were misused. Not a thing. Just these tiresome and wacked-out accusations.
    +++++++++++++++++
    have they said what they’ve spent funds on…NOPE! So of course there isn’t one iota of it.

    Not to mention, at the threat of being cut off from any future stories by the committee, the press won’t touch this story.

  209. facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Plus I have yet to see one iota of proof that the funds were misused. Not a thing. Just these tiresome and wacked-out accusations.

    nor have you seen one iota of proof that the funds aren’t being misused.
    if it’s so tiresome and wacked out then why doesn’t the comittee put and end to it? why don’t they do like ALL LEGIT non profits do and release their financials???
    balls in their court and they seem to have something to hide. They don’t want to put it to rest or they would have!!

  210. I guess to me it all boils down to what I posted earlier – when you donate money to an organization or charity consider that money gone. That’s the way I do it – if I don’t have it to spare I don’t donate.

  211. There is no depth to the complaints here. It’s the same three people with hurt feelings, as usual.

    They think their personal issues should be more important than a missing person/homicide case. That’s all.

    Very selfish.

  212. Not to mention, at the threat of being cut off from any future stories by the committee, the press won’t touch this story.
    *********************

    If we’re going to wheel out the tired old conspiracy theories again, then I’ve got some closets to clean. If I find some tinfoil hats, I’ll make sure to bring enough to share.

  213. 58Apache, you’re right. It was just a bumper sticker, and I can see your point. A lot of that information that you said you didn’t trust came from FSP members. SOME of those of us that saw it couldn’t help but be a little curious about what was going on over there and why the biggest posting member no longer had posts. I mean why would that happen. I’ll admit (and I’m sorry to bring up FSP again) that it intrigued me too. Rumors were everywhere from wherever, but when you see or read things, sometime you can’t help but be a little curious about them. I don’t think that’s an obsession really, just a curiosity because it’s part of this case.

  214. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    The forum is not dead. The forum has moved.

    When you have folks stalking every thread and reporting on blogs about posting comment counts changing, then it is time to move to another site.
    ***************************************

    NO KIDDING?????

    so, Sharon LIED? AGAIN?

    In the Chicago Tribune?

    Oh hell no.

  215. BTW, has Brodsky answered any more questions since he found out what he wanted to know about the FSP forum shutting down?

  216. Why do you care about the numbers?

    Tell me one good reason why you need to know ANY numbers regarding the fund????

    What POSSIBLY can you glean from a number?

    If the fund was $500 or $50,000, what difference does it make to you?

    No person can look me in the eye and tell me that they are SO CONCERNED about the amount of money in the search fund.

    Please, humor me, and tell me why that is so important.

  217. lol facs I was never a member of fsp and I have no hurt feelings certainly not from the likes of a message board.
    now if you think it’s ok then fine keep donating.
    I happen to think that a missing persons site should have more class then the person they are bashing and in this case they don’t. Then add to it this mess of their non-profit status and the continue lies concerning it and it is what it is.
    Only FSP can make it right and until they do MANY will think they are scaming the public using Stacy as the object of their scam.

  218. I would like to know how the money is being spent. As far as you know it could be parties and pole dancers.30 seconds and they could show what they have taken in from Paypal.

  219. CFS, with all due respect, tracking comment counts and when member messages are deleted is NOT a curiosity. It is an OBSESSION.

    Joel Brodsky and Drew Peterson were obviously very fearful of all of the information gathered on the site. It is quite apparent that Drew has many things in his past that he does not want made public. Pity… You reap what you sow.

  220. Hey apache how about humor the IRS and ask them why it’s so important.

    dang you folks have gotten away with browbeating others down that you forget there are actually LAWS regarding what FSP is doing.

  221. It has NOTHING to do with the amount of money in the search fund. If it’s $1 or $1 million, it needs to be accounted for. ESPECIALLY if you are collecting it in the name of a missing woman as a non-profit. If there is nothing wrong than it should be NO PROBLEM to say…here ya go.

    There are people that need answers to give on their taxes.

  222. Sunsets, let’s say that the fund is currently $30,000.

    Now, if you assumed that to be correct, what does that tell you?

  223. It has NOTHING to do with the amount of money in the search fund. If it’s $1 or $1 million, it needs to be accounted for. ESPECIALLY if you are collecting it in the name of a missing woman as a non-profit. If there is nothing wrong than it should be NO PROBLEM to say…here ya go.

    There are people that need answers to give on their taxes.
    ___________________________

    Not to sound rude here, but it doesn’t sound like many people are asking or complaining except a few people here.

  224. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    CFS, with all due respect, tracking comment counts and when member messages are deleted is NOT a curiosity. It is an OBSESSION.
    ++++++++++++++++
    Many found it odd that once it was mentioned that a poster from CA was flown out on donated money, her post count dropped dramatically.

    Many found it odd that once a half nude picture of DP was posted that a certain poster was “banned”.

    If finding coincidences is an obsession, well, then so be it.

  225. If FoSP was misappropriating funds, they would be “in trouble” with the IRS, or another LE agency correct?

    One would assume FoSP know this and wouldn’t risk it as it is not worth it.

    I guess what I am trying to say is that in time I think ALL questions will be answered.

  226. gotoutandhappynow // May 20, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I guess what I am trying to say is that in time I think ALL questions will be answered.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    One can only hope that they are answered and honestly.

  227. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Does anyone know whether the police cannot make an arrest until the GJ has completed their investigation?

    I did read that The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires a grand jury indictment for federal criminal charges. Only about half the states now use grand juries.

    And so I wondered whether they were waiting to make an arrest … to see whether the GJ would come back with an indictment of federal criminal charges.

    If they don’t indict with federal criminal charges, then they might make an arrest on lesser charges?

    *********************************
    I asked a similar question yesterday. It’s my understanding that some states require a grand jury indictment on a major crime (homicide), rather that a district attorney indictment.

    My question yesterday was if Illinois was one of the states that requires grand jury indictment in order to prosecute a case.

    If Illinois DOES require a grand jury indictment, that may be why Drew Peterson hasn’t been arrested and charged.

  228. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    CFS, with all due respect, tracking comment counts and when member messages are deleted is NOT a curiosity. It is an OBSESSION.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I agree if someone’s sole purpose is to track posting counts….well now, there is a problem. That’s far from what I was talking about. It was just posted that things had changed, and nearly everyone knew how much one particular poster had, so it was just kind of strange that her posts went from over 9,000 to zero all of a sudden. It just made people wonder what was up over there, that’s all.

  229. If they had not come to our site and lied, outright lied, I wouldn’t have thought to ask.

    Now, when somebody proved they lied? We are bitter? Don’t forget to say we’re jealous, it is just about the same lame.

    They LIED.

  230. mollymcgee … I could not remember who posted this. I was hoping whoever had would appear. Thank you!

    I’ve asked the question of Joel Brodsky only because many people are saying “if they had anything on Drew from the GJ testimony” they would have arrested him … so if the answer is that the GJ has to determine whether there is enough to indict AFTER hearing all testimony, we won’t have to here that “ISP has nothing” but I don’t know if Joel will answer it.

  231. ilovesunsets2 // May 20, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    I would like to know how the money is being spent. As far as you know it could be parties and pole dancers.30 seconds and they could show what they have taken in from Paypal.
    —————————————–
    Did anyone twist your arm or force you to give a donation? If not, then who the heck cares other than a few bitter people here who were banned at FSP!

    I thought this was finally a dead subject, but the bitter souls have come back to haunt this place once again!!

  232. amandareckonwith // May 20, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    If they had not come to our site and lied, outright lied, I wouldn’t have thought to ask.

    Now, when somebody proved they lied? We are bitter? Don’t forget to say we’re jealous, it is just about the same lame.

    They LIED.
    _____________________________

    I’m confused. Who came to your site and lied?

  233. w ww.19thcircuitcourt.state.il.us/bkshelf/GrandJuror/IL_GrandJurorHB_0206.pdf

    The Constitution and laws of Illinois provide that no
    person shall be brought to trial for a crime punishable by death
    or by imprisonment in the penitentiary unless either the initial
    charge has been brought by indictment of a grand jury or the
    person has been given a prompt preliminary hearing and a judge
    has found probable cause.

  234. That makes it sound like the GJ has to indict, doesn’t it?

    Maybe there is someone with “grand jury knowledge” here!

    No responses from anyone with “dam” knowledge yet.

  235. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    It’s on the Tribune web site about the forum

    Administrators for findstacypeterson.com have shut down the active forum on the Web site dedicated to the missing Bolingbrook mother, saying the site will now only be used for updates, searches and events.

    The Web site started shortly after Stacy Peterson disappeared Oct. 28 and once boasted at least 1,600 registered users from as far away as Australia who posted thousands of messages about her case.

    The activity on the site slowed in recent months, said Sharon Bychowski, a friend and neighbor of Stacy Peterson. Site administrators felt the forum had run its course.
    —————————————–
    It did run its course, it had become mostly a social club.

    The only up-to-date news was coming from things DP was doing, not things connected to the actual case of a missing person.

    I would have shut it down months ago!

  236. Luvpups, not bitter at all. They had no problem telling how much they took in at fundraisers. I just wonder why the Paypal money was so secret. I was a posting member upto the day they closed the forum down and got along with everyone.

  237. Oh Rescue, we’re in trouble now!!!!! From SYM:

    I have a comment and not a question. I really have a problem with people getting on here and asking tons of questions with the sole intent of taking the answers back to another forum and making fun of Joel at his expense. His spelling and grammar is not something that should be made fun of, thats high school stupid stuff. Have some respect for who he is.

  238. Maybe some of you guys need to volunteer to be a watchdog or whistleblower for non-profit investigations. It is apparently a passion.

    Joel Brodsky cannot bring forth any evidence of wrondoing. He does take the opportunity to bring up tax exempt status the day before a fund raising event for the missing wife of his client, the primary and might I add, ONLY, suspect in the disappearance and presumed homicide, death, murder of Stacy Peterson.

    Joel Brodsky and Drew Peterson have reason to fear that the search fund will continue. Joel Brodsky and Drew Peterson have reason to fear that VOLUNTEERS will continue to search for the body of Stacy Peterson.

    And the searches will continue as long as necessary.

  239. Call me obsessed if you want to. I care where my money went and I want to know I did not waste a week of my time.

    I will call every Tuesday until I find an answer.

    As far as if it’s legal… it seems it may be a grey area. Somebody has the tax liability. Maybe the entire committee. Maybe just the top 4 board members. Don’t know, don’t care.

    They raised money. Tell us where it went.

    There were no aerial searches, and free K-9 SAR was turned away.

    Smells funny. Stinks.

    I’m not about to shut up.

  240. amandareckonwith // May 20, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    If they had not come to our site and lied, outright lied, I wouldn’t have thought to ask.

    Now, when somebody proved they lied? We are bitter? Don’t forget to say we’re jealous, it is just about the same lame.

    They LIED.
    _____________________________

    I’m still confused. Who came to your site and lied?

  241. Some will say that spelling doesn’t matter, as long as the message gets across, but I disagree.

    It’s all about the perception people have of you.

    The misspelling of Stacy’s name on the sample bumper sticker IMO would have completely detracted from the statement (don’t get me started on the multiple question marks!).

    And I’m sorry, but holding your finger over the E is just pitiful. Was that whole news story about the bumper stickers (I never saw it.)? Then it should have been delayed.

    If I noticed the misspelling of her name, surely her good friend should have noticed it too, and not put the bumper sticker on TV. I’m sure the reporter would have understood.

  242. Ok, where is the new FSP forum and why haven’t I been invited? I was a member in good standing!

  243. gooutandbehappy, one of the members of the committee did. She is a wonderful person. Maybe I shouldn’t say “she” lied, but she told us what they told her to say. And THAT turned out to be a lie.

  244. From what I remember….The whole story was not about bumper stickers. Sharon put her finger over the e (on the news because of the misspelling) and then stated (on FSP – I believe) that it was a sample and that the ones they ordered would be spelled correctly.

  245. If you are concerned about where the money is going, then volunteer to work on the board to monitor the expenses.

    You can never have enough volunteers. Well, there is one exception. It would be a conflict of interest to have anyone associated with Drew or Joel Brodsky, or the defense team, in any way.

  246. amandareckonwith // May 20, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    gooutandbehappy, one of the members of the committee did. She is a wonderful person. Maybe I shouldn’t say “she” lied, but she told us what they told her to say. And THAT turned out to be a lie.
    ____________________________________

    Thanks for the response.

  247. There is a big difference in concern and being jealous or wanting to find fault.

    A concerned person will volunteer to monitor a non-profit organization.

    A jealous person or one who just wants to find fault, will sit back and complain to anyone who will listen.

    There is a difference…

  248. cfs – LOL. “Have respect for who he is.” When he learns how to write and spell like a graduate student, we can then move on to the next step. When he learns to talk like a dignified, respectful person, maybe I will listen to him. Respect, no. If his client wants to show him respect, he can knock his silly self out.

    There is a lawyer representing another man in these here parts – the client’s name is Craig Stebic. I can’t even tell you his lawyer’s name. You want to know why? Because he isn’t a media hungry, book writing, blog posting nut!

    And that’s my story.

  249. ilovesunsets, there is no new forum. Not one set up by FSP or FoSP anyway. So you’re not being left out of anything.

  250. Just an FYI here- when Kimmers personal information was posted on Annie’s forum, it showed that she lives in an apartment in Joliet.

    Wonder why she pays BB taxes?

  251. “Did anyone twist your arm or force you to give a donation? ”

    They lied! Even the fact that at fsp the posters weren’t allowed to say “Stacy might be alive” shows everybody their twisted way to “squeeze tears” from the public while they were just pretending to look for Stacy.
    WHY NO AERIAL SEARCHES BEEN CONDUCTED SO FAR?
    Didn’t Sharon tell everybody they’d do it? Wasn’t this a lie?

  252. No, they didn’t twist my arm, they twisted my and other’s hearts to give a donation!

  253. Aerial searches have been conducted and are still being conducted. Why do you think that they aren’t?

  254. Have you guys thought what happens if tomorrow Stacy comes unharmed back home?
    Just watch Joel and Drew suing Sharon for what she did to dp; Sharon is in big trouble if Stacy is alive! She needs to say, “Stacy is dead” so she can make this circus to “be the TV”. (“I am the TV” Sharon B)

  255. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    If you are concerned about where the money is going, then volunteer to work on the board to monitor the expenses.

    You can never have enough volunteers. Well, there is one exception. It would be a conflict of interest to have anyone associated with Drew or Joel Brodsky, or the defense team, in any way.
    ______________

    You see the problem with that is the board members do not return e-mails or phone calls.

  256. Nope, can’t say I EVER thought what happens to SHARON if Stacy comes back unharmed. That’s some deep, down mind searching you’ve got goin’ on there. Wow. Something to think about.

    Joel and Drew can sue anybody they want, fascinating. Maybe even sue you. Doesn’t mean they’ll win, doesn’t mean they’re right.

    Lawyers are all sue crazy. Haven’t you ever been hit in the head with one of their cards dropping out of a window?

  257. settingitstraight // May 20, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Aerial searches have been conducted and are still being conducted. Why do you think that they aren’t?
    ____________

    Well where are they looking for her in the tops of trees? How can they see through all the leaves on the trees to see the ground.

  258. “settingitstraight // May 20, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Aerial searches have been conducted and are still being conducted. Why do you think that they aren’t?”

    Could you please set the things straight!
    Where do you know this? Please show us how do you know this?
    All I heard from their searches (FSP) is they are collecting plastic barrels. Do they catch those in the sky?
    If they really do those aerial searches, aren’t those too late to be done now?

  259. There is a lawyer representing another man in these here parts – the client’s name is Craig Stebic. I can’t even tell you his lawyer’s name. You want to know why? Because he isn’t a media hungry, book writing, blog posting nut!

    And that’s my story.

    ilovesunsets2 // May 20, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    I think he is Odeh
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    You think Reem Odeh is Craig Stebic attorney????

  260. Settingitstraight….the boat that was purchased. In whose name is it titled? Does that person get to keep the boat?

  261. There are ways of doing aerial searches that do not involve regular search planes. Without going into detail, aerial searches are being done at as low as 50 feet in some places. The trees have not been a problem. I asked the same question because I too thought that the foliage at this point would prevent aerial searches. Not the case at all. Leaves are no match for high tech equipment. Just as something that is buried and can’t be seen with the naked eye can be seen with equipment.

    And yes, barrels are being cleared as well. They are eliminated as connected to the case and the environment is cleaned up in the process.

  262. Hey fascinating. Why don’t you cut and paste the whole sentence, instead of trying to bully your way in here, okay? I”m not impressed with your intimidation.

    Joel and Drew can sue anybody they want, fascinating. Maybe even sue you. Doesn’t mean they’ll win, doesn’t mean they’re right.

  263. itssal, the boat will be donated to charity, or sold and proceeds donated to charity, once the search is over. No one person gets to keep it.

  264. BTW, I read that this photographer was reimbursed after the fact from the funds that were donated to FSP. He originally did the entier shoot gratis.

  265. What if Stacy’s been kept captive by a psycho somewhere? (It happened to other women before). Doesn’t Sharon have a heart to think Stacy might be in pain somewhere?
    No, she already “burried” her in her heart and made a shrine! Not too early for a shrine?

  266. Well, then, maybe you could go out and help them find the psycho that is holding her captive somewhere, instead of complaining about Sharon on a blog.

  267. Did you happen to notice that facsmiley and settingitstraight posted some information that might be considered, or should be spend the next 1/2 playing silly games?

  268. Mods here, this is a slap in your face not mine!

    “rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Threat? Do you see bugs crawling on walls? They have something you can take for that.”

  269. Fascinating. Please note the link above to the AERIAL PHOTOS that were taken . It shows up your accusations as being completely inaccurate and bogus.

    If you’d like to help, maybe you could take a long look through the many photos and see if you spot anything interesting.

  270. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    mollymcgee … I could not remember who posted this. I was hoping whoever had would appear. Thank you!

    I’ve asked the question of Joel Brodsky only because many people are saying “if they had anything on Drew from the GJ testimony” they would have arrested him … so if the answer is that the GJ has to determine whether there is enough to indict AFTER hearing all testimony, we won’t have to here that “ISP has nothing” but I don’t know if Joel will answer it.

    ******************************

    Thanks Noway for asking the question.

    I’ve felt it’s very possible that a grand jury indictment was a necessary part of the procedure to prosecute a case.

    I wonder if JB will answer it truthfully?

  271. Noway

    ww.19thcircuitcourt.state.il.us/bkshelf/GrandJuror/IL_GrandJurorHB_0206.pdf

    The Constitution and laws of Illinois provide that no
    person shall be brought to trial for a crime punishable by death
    or by imprisonment in the penitentiary unless either the initial
    charge has been brought by indictment of a grand jury or the
    person has been given a prompt preliminary hearing and a judge
    has found probable cause.

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    THANK YOU for finding that!! It reads much like the law for the state of Texas that I read. In the state of Texas, it’s considered a right of the defendant to not be charged WITHOUT a grand jury indictment.

    Again, thank you!

  272. rescueapet // May 20, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    I find it fascinating that I can’t remember the zip code of bolingbrook. What was that again?
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    It’s 60440 Rescue. Fascinatingterms should know!!

  273. C’mon Fascinating. Come back and tell us that you were wrong and we were right. You LIED.

    /OK, now I’m just being nasty. And yet…I don’t feel in the least bad.

  274. “facsmiley // May 20, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    WHY NO AERIAL SEARCHES BEEN CONDUCTED SO FAR?
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    Back in….December….Ric Mims went up with that aerial photographer and they took a lot of photos. Do you think it begs doing twice?

    http://www.aerialimages-photo.com/Stacy/map.htm

    There are really tons of them. Peruse away.”

    After December Sharon said they need money for the UPCOMING aerial searches! Sharon said they need money for “the planes” not for the photographer! So she lied again !

    What you are saying now smells so fishy! She “reimbursed” a guy who agreed to work for free! LOL
    Don’t you see it?

  275. Ah, yeah, like I said, it was fascinating to me that I couldn’t remember the zip code when I saw it so many times before, cfs.

    That’s right, 60440. Hmmm. Thanks, cfs. You’re right on the money.

  276. snyder73 // May 20, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Just an FYI here- when Kimmers personal information was posted on Annie’s forum, it showed that she lives in an apartment in Joliet.

    Wonder why she pays BB taxes?

    That is strange.

  277. fascinatingtermsofdeservice , I see that you are working way too hard to attempt to salvage the crap statement you made.

    You were totally wrong and not big enough to admit it.

    That’s OK, I didn’t really expect you to. 😉

  278. It’s fascinating that there is so much obsession on here, isn’t it? Blah, blah, blah.

    It’s fascinating when you say the sky is blue, but someone will come back and say, oh, no. It’s the color I say it is, LOL.

  279. No prob mollymcgee. I’m sorry for “stealing” your Q to ask Joel. I found that later. But I’d like an expert to interpret.

    settingitstraight, thanks for the info on FSP. I’ve been accused of having no logical skills. 😉

  280. ilovesunsets2 // May 20, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    There could be a federal and other local GJs meeting right now about stuff he did.
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    Really, there could be? I didn’t realize that. Thought there was only one in session on this case, but what do I know? Anyone else know anything about this?

  281. Maybe the GJ meets on other days for other cases? I just think the Kathleen/Stacy issue is Thursdays?

    Or do they only meet once a week for anything.

    Gotta make milkshakes. Back soon.

  282. Noway, you’re one of the most logical people I’ve seen post on the subject, both here and on FSP. 😉

  283. Apache, do you know for certain that FSP has moved?
    I ask because several of people who posted in the psychic thread there have been trying to find a way to get their posts back, possibly mailed to them. One has emailed the addy on the FSP site, but so far no response. Would anyone else have any ideas how they might be able to retrieve their posts? They did put a lot of time and work into them, even if you don’t believe in psychics, I’m guessing you’d agree that what they posted belongs to them and they would like to get it back.
    Sorry to interrupt the conversation, just looking for a little help. Thanks.

  284. Gatehouse – can we have a new link, please.

    Slow, slow, slow.

    P.S. fascinatingtermsofservice sent me to the corner. Will you let me out, please?

  285. settingitstraight // May 20, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Noway, you’re one of the most logical people I’ve seen post on the subject, both here and on FSP.
    ************

    AND she makes milkshakes!

  286. 😀 I thought someone was going to ask if I was working at McDonalds!

    I agree that it would be nice if the psychics could get their posts back. Really anybody who wants to be able to get theirs.

  287. noway406 // May 20, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    No prob mollymcgee. I’m sorry for “stealing” your Q to ask Joel. I found that later. But I’d like an expert to interpret.

    *********************************
    Noway,
    No problem with “stealing” my question. I’m just thrilled to have the answer to a question that’s been bothering me for some time.

    If a grand jury indictment is required for prosecution, it does answer the constant comment, “if the police had anything they would have arrested Drew Peterson by now.”

    The hands of the police are tied pending the results of the grand jury.

  288. let me understand whats been happening. FSP finally shut down. why shut down FSP right after huge “fun-raiser”? not going to account for how much raised? same magpies yapping on her about the same trash over and over. still no arrest in either savio or peterson case. peterson has himself another 22 yr old. peterson is the only one doing any good out of this mess. maybe this 22 yr old will cover for stacy’s alleged dissapearance like stacy did for savio’s demise? and the wheels of justice keep turnin, proud mary keep on burnin, roll en roll en, roll en on a JOKE

  289. 58apache // May 20, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    There is a big difference in concern and being jealous or wanting to find fault.

    A concerned person will volunteer to monitor a non-profit organization.

    A jealous person or one who just wants to find fault, will sit back and complain to anyone who will listen.

    There is a difference…
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    There isn’t much to monitor because they aren’t answering the questions..just hitting the ban button. We aren’t sitting back. We gave them the info on how to be a 501c3, how to get in contact with the FREE SAR teams. They chose to do it there way. We researched that the way they did it was wrong…and now we want to know WHY!!!???!!!

  290. snyder73 // May 20, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Just an FYI here- when Kimmers personal information was posted on Annie’s forum, it showed that she lives in an apartment in Joliet.

    Wonder why she pays BB taxes?
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Actually, it’s a condo in Joliet. I own several properties in IL and WI. Anything else you want to know?

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