Your Thread – May 26

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  1. cfs7360 // May 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Personally, I don’t think she could have found the time, or a way to get out from under Drew’s thumb even if she wanted to, so NO, I don’t.

  2. I’m on the fence on this one but still more inclined to say NO. She would have lost everything cheating and getting caught.

  3. I don’t think so. I think he suspected her of it, but I don’t think so.

    Now, the racy texts could be considered cheating … same as racy emails … as noted by Dear Abby in a not too long ago column.

  4. I to feel she didn’t, but that doesn’t mean she wasnt thinking about it. I think she missed friends her own age, etc. Even her “best friend” was older.

    I think she knew she would be dead if she cheated, or he even THOUGHT she was cheating.

    hmmmmm

  5. lizanne61 // May 26, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    But a guy with his vast experience must know. And with what he has been given to work with……I’m sure he has an opinion..
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    He doesn’t have any murder trial experience….never tried one to verdict so “they” say. That is so ironic to me that Drew would choose an inexperienced attorney. He does some drug and theft cases from what I hear, but the word is he’s never tried a murder case. Just what’s out there. Don’t know how much truth there is to that.

  6. Well, he himself said that he has been known to seek female companionship when the marriage was over.

    Who is to say when he determines it is over. In the past it wasn’t because he was divorced.

    And given his history, I would say yes.

  7. I wish Bachelorette were here, she knows this stuff.
    I agree with you noway. I think when he thinks his marriage is “solid” he cheats with prostitutes and he hides it pretty well ; when his marriage is over (in his mind) he’s looking for the next wife and he’s doing it more in the open with more decent ladies.

  8. Fascinating, you know, he says he never cheated on her, and that she was the only wife he ever had that he never cheated on. It wouldn’t surpirse me if he did, but I think in his own way he really loved Stacy, and loved having a vibrant, sexy, younger woman to share his life with. For the first time in his life, he probably felt like he had it all in a marriage until things started falling apart. You can see in some of their early pictures that he was totally enamored with her to begin with, and then when he was worried she might leave him, he started with the gifts…..motorcyle, diamond, etc.

  9. I believe he knew she’s totally dependent on him so he took advantage of the situation. I don’t believe she really had a real intention to leave him.

  10. But then again, they were only married for what, four years? I’m sure it was probably coming sooner or later.

  11. I think that if she did want to cheat, if she started talking about her life(married to a BB sgt, 30 yrs older than me, 2 kids with him and adopted 2 of his from another marriage, etc.) that the guy would take off running. The married and kids part some guys don’t care about but the BB sgt thing, any guy with half a brain knows what kind of trouble that can bring.

  12. Fascinating, I see what you’re saying, and I agree that initially she was very dependent on him. However as she got older and somewhat more mature, I truly think she wanted a separate life from Drew and that’s part of why she was going to school to help support her independence somewhat….even though I’m sure she would have made sure he paid the max in child support and possibly alimony as well. Don’t know the Illinois laws about divorce and such.

  13. Look at his picture when he first took the 5th at the Grand Jury.
    (November 7th?) He looked old and fat. He knew what he looked like so therefore he was insecure (in my opinion) and that is why he stalked Stacy.

    And, if maybe since he stalked her so much he may have also accused her of cheating just as often; she might have cheated just because she was getting accused of it. If she was, I would tend to think it was not long before she told him she wanted him out of the house and spoke to Harry Smith.

    And then consequently disappeared.

  14. Of course he did, does a leopard change his spots?
    He was looking pretty shabby the last few years and he seems to need to know he’s attractive to ladies.
    Don’t know what form the cheating would take but cops of his mindset are likely to accept “bribes”.

  15. What did Clinton say about different kinds of sex being cheating? And then Dear Abby says racy text is cheating, so I would assume that internet porn would qualify too. Or internet sex anyway.

  16. cfs, IMo if she wanted to leave him she would have been more serious about her school. I understood that she took classes only here and then. To me, the school was for her more of a socializing opportunity than achieving her financial independence.

  17. Liz, there were rumors of BB police accepting ‘bribes’ from women who didnt want speeding tickets in the early 90’s.

  18. My friend’s husband did it all the time. Lost his job, and wife. My uncle’s coworker did it, I’m sure it’s widespread, Scott. How would anyone know any better if it’s consensual? Maybe there’s some females coming forward now.

    That would make him lose his pension, yes?

  19. “The married and kids part some guys don’t care about but the BB sgt thing, any guy with half a brain knows what kind of trouble that can bring.”

    Scott, totally agree with you on this one. this can be a reason for her not to find nobody to cheat with…

  20. fascinatingtermsofdeservice // May 26, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    cfs, IMo if she wanted to leave him she would have been more serious about her school. I understood that she took classes only here and then. To me, the school was for her more of a socializing opportunity than achieving her financial independence
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You may very well be right Fascinating. She probably did feel like she needed a little social diversion from her busy home life (and Drew). But it may also me that she didn’t have more time to devote to classes with her brood at home. Definitely see your point though!

  21. Yeah I agree on the married to a cop thing.

    If he circles the Denny’s while she’s in there with friends, how embarassing is that? She wouldn’t wish him on a boyfriend I’m sure.

  22. Amazing how many people know people that do all these sorted things.

    And its not as widespread as you think.

  23. If he did it, then yes it should cost him his pension, but the females would have to prove it and that is harder to do now since people will be saying that they are after their 15 minutes of fame.

  24. Try going to school full time with little ones, and a demanding husband on top of it. I have been going to school for 6 years part time, but quite serious about it, just not enough time to do the fulltime homework. You need a lot of support to do that. Not someone who thinks its basket weaving.

  25. Let, I have to admit, I never realized that many women would hop in bed with a policeman just to get out of paying a speeding ticket. Must be be young and FOOLISH women. Just wait until they get to be MY age, and they’ll gladly shell out the money.

  26. I think at one time bribes were comman place, but that hasnt been in recent times.

    The police today know how easy it is to get caught, or have someone throw a “beef” on you.

  27. Truth- I debated saying widespread, but there’s one on every force I would think. I know a lot of cops and I would say the majority are good.

    It’s just there’s a psychopath in every walk of life, and some cops take advantage of the groupie thing that exists. and opportunity.

  28. I agree that the “BB police seargant” would deter most men from getting involved with Stacy.

    I can’t remember who this is attributed to, but one of the guys said that he knew that him being around Stacy bothered Drew and he knew that Drew could make his life miserable so he tried to avoid that situation (Bruce?).

  29. Cfs, according to the runors it wasnt hopping into bed (and trying to keep it tasteful) it consisted of kneeling.

  30. Drew has said that Stacy had affairs (plural) but I wonder what he is counting as “affair” … racy texts or something else.

    And what evidence has he come up with to verify that? Makes me wonder whether he was not only following her but had her under surveillance (audio and video). But how could he admit that into evidence without admitting that he followed her up until the day she disappeared and “had no idea” that she was unhappy in her marriage.

  31. “But how could he admit that into evidence without admitting that he followed her up until the day she disappeared”-Noway

    ****************************

    And how would he explain all the observation yet he let her out of his sight long enough for her to leave the country with an unidentified man?

  32. cfs, I was just setting the record staright since you had you can’t believe women would hop in bed to get out of paying a speeding ticket.

  33. Even if she thought about being with someone I doubt she had the time. When we are young we have times to think about it , but in her situation I am sure she didn’t have the time. As Drew worked nights he was there all day. So he must have watched her every move during the day. Her little ones are way to young for her to have much free time.

  34. I know Dear….it’s just that I am from the very deep South, and well…let’s just say I understand now. I don’t personally know any policemen, nor any woman, young or otherwise, who would engage in such an activity to avoid a ticket.

  35. York, the only time she would have had was when she was going to school or when she was with her sister, but since Drew was following her she couldn’t. Just wondering who was watching the kids when she was out and he was following her.

  36. yorkie, yes, Drew being there during the day certainly made it more unlikely that she would have had the opportunity to have an affair.

    When I first saw the photos of the people involved, I thought “If I looked like that and was married to you, I’d leave you too.”

    Mothers do leave their children but the more I read, the less likely I was to believe that of Stacy.

    And Drew kept making an ass of himself on television, so it was harder and harder to give him the benefit of the doubt.

  37. Maybe Cass???
    When she met everyone at Denny’s??
    Someone said they babysat for her. A young girl, she is the one who said Stacy would never leave her kids.

  38. We have to stop talking about scott’s topic. LOL

    I keep coming up with totally inappropriate posts. 😀

  39. Well I am older than Drew.
    My fiance is 15 yrs younger than me.
    NEVER in a million yrs If I saw drew at a bar would I think he was younger than me he looks like my father.

  40. I have a large family … sisters, nieces, and uncles have all babysat for us. We’ve rarely used anyone outside the family, but sometimes a friend has done it …

    So … Paul Peterson, Ric Mims, Cass, Sharon (it was only after Stacy went missing that Drew says Sharon became unhinged), Stacy’s dad (he and Drew got along).

  41. York, I mean when she was with Cass. And since it was during the day shouldn’t Drew have been home watching them. If it’s during the school yr, I would think the young girl who usually babysat for her would be in school.

  42. Yorkie, yes she did have a couple of girls that babysat for her from time to time. They were both interviewed.

  43. I think Drew would consider it cheating if Stacy met a member of the opposite sex for dinner or drinks or coffee.

    IMO she just wanted to be around people her own age. I would have thought Drew wanted the same.

  44. I know noway; totally inappropriate thoughts too!

    I read somewhere she had a neighborhood babysitter.

    School probably was an instigator to the divorce issue. Once you’re out the the world again and compare your life to those around you, you see a bit more clearly, don’t you think?

    I don’t think she had any idea of what a healthy relationship was or wasn’t until she got out of the house.

  45. I would imagine that Drew slept a good part of the day. Those two little ones had to be watched pretty closely by someone who was awake and alert enough to keep them from getting into things or getting hurt.

  46. He said in one interview that he asked Stacy 3 times to marry him she said yes the third time. I bet He pressured her and of course then got pregnant and it was the only thing she could do in her eyes and then after reallity set in she was stuck and unhappy. that wouldn’t take long with the responsibility she had. I think she just decided with the situation with the older boys without their Mom she would stick it out, but after like you said out in the world and decided it was more than she could bear. So she decided on a divorce and he kicked into gear.
    Not my house, not my pension, and no child support, so he fixed it.
    Done he thought but ….thanks to Cass and Sharon and Pam it didn’t play out like with Kathleen.
    What a pickle he got himself into.
    For the first time in his life he has to be ACCOUNTABLE.

  47. You know Yorkie, you brought up a really good point! Yes, he did say he asked her three times to marry him. Then he turns around and says he tried to break it off, but she kept leaving notes and flowers on his car.

  48. They say that accountability is one thing a sociopath lacks over the years.

    Even if counseled (personality disorders are not curable, but treatable), a family member etc needs to back up what they are telling the psychologist because they will blame everything on others and take none upon themselves. Cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

    Not saying he’s a psychopath but he does exhibit many traits.

  49. She was also pregnant and had their son Anthony about a year before they married. Wasn’t she pregnant with Lacy at the time they actually did get married? Anybody know for sure?

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  51. Lizanne, I don’t think it has been printed or said that he has been formally diagnosed by anyone, but he definitely exhibits the behavior. I am a psychology major, and I can see it written all over him just from a TV screen!

  52. I’m sure Cass or someone knows the history of the engagement. Interesting, who chased who. I guess I was thinking she got knocked up not really caring if she got pregnant.

    I was on birth control when I got pregs with my Billy (age 23). Did not want to get married under those circumstances, I didn’t want to end in divorce, but my hubby talked me into it. 4 kids and 24 years later he still wants to make babies. What’s with that?

  53. Even Brodsky doesn’t know what is going to come out of his mouth. When they left the courthouse after the arrest drew said “this is the good news” and brodsky said hey hey hey and drew made his statement about insurance.

  54. Michael Cordozza on Greta really
    blasted joel’s ways as a defendant maybe joel saw that, and is trying to behave himself. But he will never shut drew up. The narccistic (sp) personality is always looking for attention.

  55. I think that’s why they put the gag in his mouth. He is just shooting himself in the foot daily.

    Too bad he doesn’t aim a little higher.

  56. I think above the knee yrs ago would have solved alot of his financial problems and his love life problems haha

  57. I wonder if since Brodsky can’t control what comes out of Drew’s mouth, if he will end up telling Drew to get another lawyer. I know if they were in court he can’t, and since Drew was begging for a free lawyer before Brodsky came on, he might not even be getting paid except for whatever they rec’d at the freedrew (or whatever it was called) site.

  58. Lttbf, it is very opiniated in this discussion, and alot of people can bank 99.9% that he had something to do with Savio, and or SP.
    It strikes people very hard to see someone not charged when they do harm to another..
    Try and see it from others shoes, is all Im saying.
    Im not being a rude jerk either, but it makes it easier for us all.
    Thanks

  59. Scott, I don’t think Joel will leave Drew. I don’t even think Drew will leave Joel.

    And he does have other lawyers … Andrew Abood and John (?) Carroll?

  60. Sher, that for me making a comment that I thought a comment was harsh.

    I do look at it from all sides, I can be convinced one way or the other.

    And Im very thankful this board is not one sided.

  61. Sher, Stacy was emancipated by the court when she turned 17. So, she was legally an adult at that time, according to the court, and did not need a guardian, as did Cassandra.

  62. There is a reason they have not charged Drew yet … if they did, Drew would be entitled to a quick probably cause hearing (30 days) . . . and they would get to cross examine and subpoena witnesses. This would not be something the state would want (according to Joel).

    I’ve got a follow-up to Joel because I realized I didn’t know if this meant they would not get that hearing if they wait for the GJ to indict.

  63. Sher, I think she was … based on acandyrose information. She married DP about a week or so after his divorce from Kathleen was final, and I do believe she was pregnant.

  64. Sher, I’m not sure. Thought I saw that she was, because there is only a year or so between the two younger children, and Anthonly was about a year old when they married. Somebody else may know more about it than I do though.

  65. I remember Mims saying he talked to drew and drew told him when he finished getting the rest of his stuff out of the house to lock it up. Was Mims living with Drew?

  66. It makes it that much harder to charge him when there isnt a body.

    So everything they have would have to be set practically in concrete in order to get a conviciton.

  67. Truthisthere, I don’t know if he was living with him or if this was just his stuff that was there while DP was on head clearing trip.

    And of course who knows what was taken out of the house at that point.

    Letthetruth, I agree. At least with a body you can move forward and see what forensic evidence is there. However, ISP does have evidence we don’t know about.

  68. truthisthere // May 26, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    I remember Mims saying he talked to drew and drew told him when he finished getting the rest of his stuff out of the house to lock it up. Was Mims living with Drew?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++
    I remember Mims saying he was there for the search, and that Drew told him when THEY finished getting his stuff out to lock up the house. Mims only stayed a couple of days with Drew after Stacy “disappeared” but he didn’t get there until the Tuesday after the Sunday she went missing.

  69. Exactly noway. And it is possible he may never be arrested. I doubt that would happen, but its a possibility.

  70. Also what behavior are we talkin?- sher asked

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    I got the book out on the sociopath personality disorder behaviors: Kind of long

    Antisocial PD- Person who shows callous disregard for the rights and feeling of others; is manipulative impulsive, selfish, aggressive. irresponsible, reckless. Is willing to break the law, lie cheat or exploit others for personal gain, without remorse.

    Paranoid PD- Person is highly suspicious, untrusting, guarded, hypersensitive, easily slighted, lacking in emotions, holds grudges.

    Histrionic PD- Individual seeks attention and approval, is overly dramatic, self-centered, shallow; is demanding, manipulative, easily bored, suggestable, craves excitement; often is attractive and sexually seductive.

    Narcissistic PD- Person who has an exaggerated sense of self-importance and entitlement and is self-centered, arrogant, demanding, exploitive, envious, craves admiration and attention, lacks empathy.

    Borderline PD- Indicidual is unstable in mood, behavior, self-image, and social relationships; has intense fear of abandonment, exhibits impulsive and reckless behavior, inappropriate anger, makes suicidal gestures and performs self-mutilating acts.

    Based on the APA’s DSM-IV manual.

    I don’t know him well enough personally, but how many of the above “symptoms” do you think he has?

  71. I think I saw something recently while researching the 3-day trip, where Mims said that he watched the house those 3 days but once he returned, Mims had had enough and took off.

    Didn’t he live in the trailer in the backyard at times? It seems like they often had friends/relatives to stay for periods of time.

  72. Well, I have to believe that the GJ keeps getting more and more information, not nothing.

    And I really wish I was a fly on the wall when the boys testify.

  73. Too much weekend for me … gonna say good night for now. Storms = kids awake = me with no sleep. I may be back in the wee hours.

  74. I am really wondering about the safety of Stacy’s brother Yelton he gets out of jail june 6th I believe and He has to be sooo upset about Stacy.
    I pray he is kept safe.

  75. Afraid of Yeltons safety?

    I feel the opposite, Drew, Joel etc are the one’s that Im concerned with when he gets out.

    I have very little sympathy for someone with Yeltons record.

  76. Well if he has been in jail for 4 yrs he could have gone through the same maturing that Stacy did in 4 yrs.
    So he may be a differnet person, and to finally be out and his sister missing, your’e right I guess worry for Drew and Brodsky is in order.

  77. Lizanne, maybe all of them except suicidal gestures and self-mutilating acts. Those I cannot be positive of, LOL.

  78. I’m very curious to see where he ends up.

    It seems to me that Stacy was the families point person, the one that held them all together.

    Without her help, what’s he going to do?

  79. Narcisistic, antisocial, sociopathic, insecure, manipulative cop,
    who has been the LAW for 2 decades.

    He has a dominant personality, and it is not easy to shake.
    Thats why he lasted as long as he did.

    Sheesh my FIL, was a idol in his own mind..CPD!!!

  80. He has Cass. I bet she is looking at life differently since all this.
    She is still young but matured through all I bet.

  81. Also what behavior are we talkin?- sher asked

    ****************************

    I got the book out on the sociopath personality disorder behaviors: Kind of long

    Antisocial PD- Person who shows callous disregard for the rights and feeling of others; is manipulative impulsive, selfish, aggressive. irresponsible, reckless. Is willing to break the law, lie cheat or exploit others for personal gain, without remorse.

    Paranoid PD- Person is highly suspicious, untrusting, guarded, hypersensitive, easily slighted, lacking in emotions, holds grudges.

    Histrionic PD- Individual seeks attention and approval, is overly dramatic, self-centered, shallow; is demanding, manipulative, easily bored, suggestable, craves excitement; often is attractive and sexually seductive.

    Narcissistic PD- Person who has an exaggerated sense of self-importance and entitlement and is self-centered, arrogant, demanding, exploitive, envious, craves admiration and attention, lacks empathy.

    Borderline PD- Indicidual is unstable in mood, behavior, self-image, and social relationships; has intense fear of abandonment, exhibits impulsive and reckless behavior, inappropriate anger, makes suicidal gestures and performs self-mutilating acts.

    Based on the APA’s DSM-IV manual.

    I don’t know him well enough personally, but how many of the above “symptoms” do you think he has?

  82. Honestly if I was in a cell while this was going on, the first place I would go is to Drew’s to find on what the heck happened. Forget the family, I want it from the horse’s mouth.

  83. What are Cassie’s living arrangements? I thought I saw a pic of her in a wedding dress, but then the painting partner was her boyfriend.
    Anyone?
    If I was gone the transients would go to grandmas, but no grandma there.

  84. Its a proven fact that most people that spent a good amount of time will reoffend again.

    If you mature in prison, it more likely you learn how to perfect your criminal resume.

    And Yelton has many different things he is in prison for, take your pick? He’s not a good guy.

  85. I am wondering has Drew gotten back his cycle from WI, because with the gun charge he can not leave the state without the court’s approval. Wondering if he will keep it there or have someone get it for him.

  86. I’ve been thinking about Bash a LOT since she told us why she is retired. Bash, check in with us and let us know you’re okay, okay??

  87. Oh I didn’t know he had so much against him. In that case his sister doesn’t need more drama in her life.

  88. Lizanne, I don’t think Bruce (the painting partner) is Cass’ boyfriend. Think I read that they are just friends.

  89. Thanks Liz. Yes winter is over and it looks like summer weather might finally be coming here. You would think he would want his cycle for the days he needs to clear his head and think.

  90. Scott, today felt like summer, 83 degree’s here, and muggy.

    I just knew we would go from 30 to 80 overnight…lol.

  91. lizanne61 // May 26, 2008 at 10:41 pm
    “I thought I saw a pic of her in a wedding dress”

    It is my understanding that was her in her prom gown. It does look like a wedding gown tho.

    My wedding dress was actually in the prom dresses…so they can pass for one. 😉

  92. I would want it for sure.

    cfs- I read they were boyfriend/girlfriend and then I saw a pic at acandyrose.com of them holding hands. Maybe an assumption, but I was just wondering if they might take in Yelton.

    I have never heard that name before, quite unique.

  93. I don’t know Scott, I would hope so.

    My prayer is they dont have him going on searchs etc.

    His record is out there for anyone and everyone to see.

    He has been found guilty of being physically abusive. So I would have to believe he has a violent side to himself.

  94. Yeah I suppose that could be a prom dress, I never heard she had been married, actually.

    I thought she had to be pretty young to marry.

  95. Lizanne, hmmmm. I thought so at first too, but then heard differently. You’re probably right. I honestly don’t know for sure.

  96. Let. Yes he better. I try to enjoy everything I can cuz you never know when your life can change. Drew should be using every waking hr enjoying life right now cuz his will be changing more than it already has since Oct.

  97. Cassandra said it was her prom dress.

    She said her sisters were fussing about her all day.

    But the dress is beautiful and she looked fantastic in it.

  98. Scott….life really is too short, I think we all at some point in our lives learn that lesson.

    I try to live mine as if today was it, and pray I will see another day.

  99. I dont think she took Bruce. I dont remember a picture of her Prom Date.

    It was Cassandra, Stacy and Tina I believe that were in all the pictures.

  100. Let, with him having a violent side, do you think Drew and company would possibly be looking at getting orders of protection from him.

  101. Me either, but someone needs to take over the family.
    Truth do you have a link for the Yelton stuff? It would be quite interesting. I hope he wakes up after this deal with his sister and gets on having a productive life.
    Sounds like he might have one of those mood disorders…..

  102. Scott, I dont think they could, as he hasnt made any threats to them.

    But if I were them, I would watch my back.

  103. Liz, go to the State of Illinois inmate locator. Type in Cales, and he will pull right up. All the charges etc are listed, along with his mugshot, sentences info etc.

  104. Let
    That is good advise, especially with all the ceazy things that can happen.
    My niece’s friend the hockey player had an appendistis (SP) and within the yr died at 37 of cancer of the appendics, shocking never heard of it but Breslin left 4 children and a wife
    Sooo sad.

  105. Yorkie, Im so sorry to hear that story. Far too young to die, and to leave those children behind.

    We dont know what life will throw at us at any given time.

    I have learned with age to do the things I enjoy, and not worry about what people think etc.

  106. Oh and I was there about a year.

    It was an adjustment for me, I came from Chicago city etc, to an extremely small town.

  107. Our 46 year old friend came by tonight to drop off well samples to test. He developed a brain cancer (caused by vinyl chloride in the well in Wauconda) and within 3 months had a tennis ball sized tumor. Only 1-3 years to live now. He is the nicest funniest most upbeat guy I know, it is not fair. But he is living life to the fullest each day, even throwing out the first pitch at the schaumburg flyers game with a number of gags planned by him. He will go out with a bang for sure. I look at things a lot differently now, yes, truth.

  108. Wowsers, has the cold front moved in.

    Its so wind out there and the temps have drop drastically.

  109. truthb – they’re calling it a pneumonia front and it was supposed to have hit here 15 minutes ago, but hasn’t yet.

  110. Facs, its unbelievable.

    Just a half hour it was all sticky and warm, and now its actually freezing.

    My weather station says it have dropped nearly 20 degrees already.

  111. Oh my goodness Let, I can only imagine moving from Chicago to Fairhope! What a total culture shock it must have been for you! It’s such a quaint, quiet little town, and is a wonderful place to live if you just want to get away from it all. Lots of people retire there for some reason. I’m in Montgomery now, but have lived in Birmingham as well.

    I read the inmate info on Yelton. He likes tatoos too! Just hope he will settle down and try to make something of himself when he gets out.

  112. Guess I’ll turn the a/c off.

    Yorkie- the well is a private shallow driven well in the crawl that should’ve been capped years ago, when they went to city water (wauconda well) and the city water tested fine. The private well is way full of crapola of all sorts. Some that will go vaporous like the vinyl chloride. The village hired crews to cap them but they just stuck a bunch of rags around the top instead.

  113. cfs, Fairhope and that whole area is beautiful, I loved the beauty, but missed a city. I would go to New Orleans and P’Cola to get the city feel when I got lonely…..lol.

  114. cfs – I used to have access to a directory of photos taken inside the Yorkville home and the Cales family members there. A couple showed Yelton giving tattoos.

    You could see why they needed to repaint – some of the rooms had bright tourqouise vertical stripes on the walls.

    If I could still get to the pics I’d send you a link. 😦

  115. Ok time for me to call it a night. Joy of all Joys I get to go to the Elgin Drivers License Examining Station tomorrow. Taking my Dad for his test. And Im sure you all know how much fun it is sitting in these places…..NOT….lol.

    Talk to you all tomorrow.

  116. Liz I will have to read about that. I grew up with a well, and wonder if our parents generation were affected by the wells for so many yrs.

  117. I hate these posting delays.

    Goodnight Letthetruthbefree.

    Hey would you check at the Dmv if I can get a dupe of my sons permit? Do we have to go there?

  118. Ooooo Facs, I’d love to see them. Can only imagine. No wonder he likes tatoos if he’s a tatoo artist too. Wonder if he gave Stacy her carnation and cherry?

    Liz, that’s awful about your friend and I’m so sorry to hear it.

  119. Mostly from the 40’s to the 80’s were when most contamination occurred. There really was no EPA before then, and it took them a while to get a handle. Search: us epa superfund sites.

    Nixon started the EPA

  120. Liz, just saw the post about your ex-stepdad being from Montgomery. What a coincidence!! My husband skins the catfish, but it has been years since we’ve caught any because we don’t fish much anymore, even though we have several ponds in the country. Best I can remember is he used pliers to skin them. Is that what you were taught? They are so much fun to catch!! We just might have to take my little granddaughter on a little fishing trip soon.

  121. Yelton is being released on June 16th. It will be interesting. Scott-don’t wish that Yelton goes to get it from the “horse’s mouth”. It won’t be pretty. Pray that he does the right thing and helps search for his sister.

    The picture of Cass in the white dress is at Prom, not a wedding. Bruce and Cassandra are just friends and he is a really nice person.

    Lizanne-mood disorder? Nope. I hope the he knows that there is more to life and doesn’t do anything stupid.

    Drew Peterson’s motorcycle is in his garage next to Stacy’s. I don’t know what he did over the summer with it or how is suddenly “appeared” back on Pheasant Court again but it has.

  122. cfs7360 // May 26, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Ooooo Facs, I’d love to see them. Can only imagine.
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    Damn forum wars.

  123. Ditto, I tried to feel honored when they cut and paste me out of context, but I just feel dirty and used….hehe

  124. I love Craig Ferguson, can’t go to bed til he’s over. Hubby is watching natgeo upstairs I’m sure.

  125. I saw that but didn’t really get the point. I didn’t see what was so revealing about the conversation. It was someone slinging some wacky stuff and us going, “um, ok”.

    Did you see any reason why that would be so significant that you’d want to cut and paste it?

  126. Not sure, I was tired and obviously confused as to what the topic was.
    Humiliation? I have a hard time holding my own there without being chastised for something. Maybe because I’m an independent and they’re mostly republicans??

  127. facsmiley // May 26, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    cfs7360 // May 26, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Ooooo Facs, I’d love to see them. Can only imagine.
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    Damn forum wars.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Facs, you and Liz have totally lost me with your last posts……

  128. Liz, I try to just read there. I don’t know if they kick you off for that, but I know I’d just regret it if I posted.

  129. Facs, does this anything to do with Yelton being released on the 16th, Cass’ prom dress, and Drew’s motocycle being back in his garage on Pheasant Chase???

  130. Sorry cfs – my post about the photos and not being able to access them because of board wars (old ones) was one thought.

    The second convo with Liz and I was about someone copying and pasting part of a thread from here to Big M’s SYM forum. It was something about myanmar and bravos and blah blah blah.

  131. cfs, I was cut and pasted over to another site for no real purpose, just goofy posting to try to emote some sort of response. I don’t bite easily but I was bugged at bit. Competetive site apparently, don’t get it myself.

    I visited a number of sites before I landed here, it seemed the most objective and sensible, and friendly place. Except I do miss the psychic threads, my nephew & I went searching a few times on their leads.

  132. Yes, I saw that yesterday on SYM. One poster in particular is impressed by what they read here I guess, and feel they need to share it on the SYM board.

  133. CFS – the yorkville photos had to do with Yelton, tattoos and painting.

    The other stuff, not at all. It was about the SYM forum.

    We made a brain connection (via the idea of board wars) but it didn’t show up in the words here!

    Sorry!

  134. This same poster transferred nearly an entire thread one day when the topic was about waht Bash heard that someone heard on the radio. It’s beyond me what’s up with this person!!

  135. Did you like my dog story there? I was really trying to get them off track at the moment and they try to make me look foolish. Won’t work, I’m foolish thru and thru since day 1.

  136. Too many dog stories. The one about bravo the dog, so I shared what my dogs did on the last search (peed, pooped, chased a wombat)

  137. wombat is my hubs pet name for me. Good? I bet no other wife has that name.
    And I do think I’m more of an otter. Love to swim with only my nose out of the water.

  138. You must have spent the most part thinkin’ then.

    Or did your dog steal dinner off the counter like mine, and you had to re-cook?

  139. Liz-are you talking to me. My dogs are well trained and won’t eat anything but humans and UPS guys, go figure?? I still haven’t figured that one out. Working on it.

    I bet that you were talking to someone else and I just highjack your thread again. Oh wait, this is a blog and everyone is invited. I like that 🙂

  140. Well, goodnight y’all. Doesn’t look like I’m going to miss as much as I thought I might. Play nicely now, ya hear?

  141. Back to Yelton, love that name, what was I thinking with billy, michael, james, & brian. Gosh am I boring.

    My brothers would be frantic I hope, in trying to find me in a case like this. I’ll bet he knew a few details, the guys can read each other well, although they don’t share readily. Guys always size each other up.

  142. cfs-I would hope so. How do you know that you haven’t been bitten by one? LOL

    Night all! Sleep well.

  143. I was noticing I was doing that site/sight thing. spelling used to be second nature to me (golden apple award 2 yrs in a row) but I guess with age I’m needing to focus more. Did that twice now and I usually pride myself with that. But I did spell salutations and intermediate correctly, eh?

    Why so caustic (sp?)

  144. Liz-I am not the spelling police nor do I wish to be. Do as you wish, it’s a free country. You might want to make sure that you are correct with your information and post in an intellegent manner if you want to be take seriously. Especially when you attack others. IMO

  145. How come I’m being moderated and the icky comments are not? Or do I not see them coming off??

    Humbly yours,
    beth

  146. I didn’t think I was attacking you. I am concerned for the happiness of all, and I thought you weren’t coming across as happy. That’s all.

    Still want to know why you’re so defensive. Never done nothing to you, that I know of.

  147. Gatehouse-how come I am being moderated and my comments are missing but your other “members” are saying many things that are inappropriate. I have said nothing insulting, nor have I done anything but defend my constitutional rights. In addition, I have been harassed by many of your members, you let this go on for many days and I have the right to say the truth. I posted the truth about the case and that should not have been deleted.

    Night! I hope that everyone sleeps well.

  148. arrestdrew- credibility is everything. If you go back in my posts, I’ve tried to always back up what I say with facts, or at least a qualified link. I do research, writing, photography etc and I know the value of this in the real world.

  149. For the past few weeks I’ve been playing “another” scenerio in my mind regarding this case.
    With all the “alledged (sp?) corruption” surrounding DP and other “official places” there, could it just be possible that Stacy went directly to let’s say the FBI and told her story?
    Could it be possible they have her in Protective custody?
    My advance apoligies for mis-spelled words and over-punctuation.

  150. Lizanne-I am a VERY happy and a VERY content person. No worries about me. I am concerned about you as your posts are so negative. Are you ok? Please take care of yourself! There are so many groups that can help you! Let me know if you need to get some names in your area, I am a google fanatic.

  151. Miss drew,
    mine are also being moderated and not posted, and I thought I was being nice. I think it is the subject matter being discussed. If we go to something applicable to SP purpose, I’m sure the moderating posts will go away.

  152. Not p.o.’d at all, just surprised. If you met me you’d know I’m just try to be a nice guy and very giving. To a fault. Not used to being bashed I guess.

    Where’s basherette when you need her. You didn’t ban her, gatehouse, did you?

  153. Lizanne-I am a very nice guy and as you, to a fault! Don’t let others get to you, it’s not worth it. I wasn’t bashing you in any way. It’s difficult to get your feelings across in a blog like you have tried to do. I promise to be a little more patient.

    It’s a shame that others are so consumed with trashing the victims and family members that they don’t see beyond them. I started my posts tonight with concern that Yelton is going to be released.

  154. What happened? Is this global warming?

    I hope Yelton has some place to go where he can get a new start.

    That whole family has to start again it seems. so much tragedy.

  155. Gut wrenching I am sure. Especially being that she went missing the day she was doing something for him.

    I can’t imagine not being able to help if I was a sib.

  156. I would hope that the family would get Yelton out of the Bolingbrook area for a long time! This is a serious matter and the family needs to make sure that Yelton is away from all of it. The last thing that this family needs is to have someone go off and hurt DP. Really!! I say that with a ton of concern.

    Stacy wouldn’t want that and I h0pe that the family makes sure that he stays clear of it.

  157. “I read they have cleared several blue barrels since they started the clean up, 40 or so. I wonder what they do with them after they pick them up?”

    Too bad they aren’t 15 gallon size.
    I recycle them to make saddle rack/holders.
    I would take them all if they wanted to donate them to my rescue… 😉

  158. sorry gatehouse, maybe that one was a bit inflammatory I admit. Delete if you want. I’m going to bed. Thanks

  159. I believe the family has been through so much, I am glad Cassandra will have her brother for support. I am also glad that they are able to get $ for the barrels they are collecting. I am sure Yelton will be helpful in the searches.

  160. Brodsky made an odd comment. He stated that Drew was with his friend in Madison, WI for the three days “he went missing”….yet, in another post he says ” The motorcycles were alsways kept in Drew’s garage. Drew didn’t re-connect with the friend who lives near Madison Wisc., until about a month after Stacy ran off. They had lost contact, and not talked or seen each other for more than 10 years, so the senerio you suggest is impossible.”
    Talk about inconsistencies?

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