Your Thread – June 3

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456 thoughts on “Your Thread – June 3

  1. the story about yelton is not fact it’s something I read and can’t remember where and it was from someone that claimed they knew the cales and lived a few doors down from them.

  2. mzinformed // June 2, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    freedom, I’m w/ u re: the hearsay law, that’s why they are drawing this out, just waiting. And, they may well get their conviction that way, however, I feel it will be reversed on appeal should that happen.

    I agree it may get to the supreme court by way of California before they can even try to use it.
    I think allowing hearsay into a courtroom is a very very dangerous thing. Yes there’s a loop hole for criminals but you basically can have anyone saying anything and it can’t be proven either way. very very dangerous which is why it has not been allowed in a court of law.

  3. lookingforthetruth // June 2, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    freedom08 // June 2, 2008 at 10:39 pm
    Freedom, now you are saying what?? Cassandra had something to do with Kathleens death??
    ——-
    I’m saying anything is possible. I’m sure stacy went on and on to Cassandra and Yelton about how Kathleen was making her and drews life hell.
    I read somewhere that stacy went on to the family about how Kathleen was a drunk and was probably drunk when she died.
    well kathleen was not drunk when she died.
    So all I’m saying is that anything is possible and the cales do have a ruff upbringing. Cassandra sent out a bulletin for FSP talking about how stacy at 11yo stomped their stepmother into the floor in the living room. Kathleen and Stacy did have a couple of violent encounters and Cassandra seems like she could have a violent temper and I think all three of them are very street smart.
    so again with what little I know anything is possible in my mind concerning this case.

  4. Ok Annie just said on SYM that Yelton was living in the motorhome at the time of Kathleens death, and she said it came from a family member.

  5. mzinformed // June 2, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    letthetruthbefree – IL Legislature has before it a Bill to allow hearsay in the Court in certain cases, therefore, the State may be banking on this, however, under the 6th Amendment, US, you have the right to confront your accuser ……… so w/ this hearsay DP would not have that right in court as the “accuser’s” words would be coming from someone else.

  6. freedom08 // June 2, 2008 at 10:43 pm
    “the story about yelton is not fact it’s something I read and can’t remember where and it was from someone that claimed they knew the cales and lived a few doors down from them.”
    _________________________
    So that would only be a RUMOR, about the bloody shirt??

  7. Mz, exactly. Its a slippery slope, and I really dont think it will be brought into this case. I think it will be tied up legally for sometime.

  8. lookingforthetruth // June 2, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Freedom08 – “what if there is someone in that area praying on women that are leaving their husbands? easy target and the husband will be suspected.”

    I could see that in the Stebic case. In Stacy’s case I could if Drew hadn’t said Stacy took a bikini and money from the safe.

  9. And, I know this won’t win me any points here, but how credible are these cast of characters, none of them come across well to me.

    I don’t believe a word out of most people involved in this case, it’s that bad.

  10. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Ok Annie just said on SYM that Yelton was living in the motorhome at the time of Kathleens death, and she said it came from a family member.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Wonder why Brodsky has never alluded to Yelton being involved like he did with Kathleen’s boyfriend….

  11. lookingforthetruth // June 2, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    So that would only be a RUMOR, about the bloody shirt??
    —-

    yes and I said that when I posted it. the person telling the story did not think it was a rumor but I consider it a rumor or shall I say no facts to back it up, like much in this case.

    also on the post about someone preying on wives leaving their husband I stated it was a possibility and then went on to talk about all the missing in will county and the lack of resolution by LE over and over again.

  12. cfs, he might be holding onto that. Knowing he was in prison, he wasn’t going anywhere.

    I think it’s going to be very interesting with Yelton. I think that guy has some ghosts in his closet, and we might just hear about them.

  13. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Ok Annie just said on SYM that Yelton was living in the motorhome at the time of Kathleens death, and she said it came from a family member.

    I’ve heard that also.

  14. freedom08 // June 2, 2008 at 10:30 pm
    “I also can see drew thinking with kathleen gone all his problems are gone so he would cover it up.
    It just doesn’t sit well with me that stacy covered for murder for 3 years and even when she went to the pastor she did not want him arrested nor did she speak to the pastor about leaving drew.
    seems like a set up putting the story in place. And after Lisa Stebic went missing and all the accusations against her husband might have set a bell off in stacy head that this might be the only way she can ever get away from drew.
    there are tons of possibilities IMO. Stacy may not have been able to live with knowing what she did about kathleen and it may have after Tina’s death make her feel like she wasn’t a good mother and couldn’t look the 2 older boys in the eye.”
    ——————————————
    WOW, Freedom08, thats quite alot of ASSUMPTIONS.

  15. scott15 // June 2, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    I could see that in the Stebic case. In Stacy’s case I could if Drew hadn’t said Stacy took a bikini and money from the safe.

    good point!! but did he say that? I thought he did on an interview but am not sure.

  16. I think prosecution will be able to make their case….even without hearsay being admissable….i just have this feeling that some of these little mafia looking wannabees in this case have broken down and squealed like pigs.

  17. You guys keep posting about your LE and elected officials in Will County. No wonder people do such horrible things to people there. It seems either someone else get sents to prison for it, or it gets swept under the carpet because there isn’t enough evidence for a conviction. Sounds like you all need some movers and shakers up there. No offense, but you all from there are the ones doing the criticizing.

  18. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 10:58 pm
    Ok Annie just said on SYM that Yelton was living in the motorhome at the time of Kathleens death, and she said it came from a family member.
    ________________________

    Can Annie back any of that up with FACT, because she is known for just throwing stuff out there as fact!! LOL

  19. freedom, I remember him saying that in one of his earlier interviews when he said she left him for another man and took money and her bikini.

  20. Looking, its just like everything else in this case, he said/she said…there is really NO serious, hard, evidence that we know about.

    I can remember not too long ago, the Pro Stacy people were saying that it was all a big misunderstandint with Yelton, the young lady lied to him about her age, blah, blah, blah….but in the same breath they will accuse Drew of dating Stacy when she was so young.

    Difference being Stacy was of legal age, and Yelton’s victim was NOT.

  21. lookingforthetruth // June 2, 2008 at 11:04 pm
    WOW, Freedom08, thats quite alot of ASSUMPTIONS.
    —-
    and so are most of the things stated about drew.
    just read out here most are assumption just some take offense when the assumption is not about drew.

  22. cfs, Will County has had their share of bad apples. Now the DA’s that’s in office now is/was trying to clean it up.

    He is running for re-election, so that always throws my hinky meter off, as well as the Coroner.

  23. scott I believe I heard him say it also but someone posted something out here from JB saying that is what Cassandra told Pam.
    like I said drew has made himself look guilty every time he opens his trap.
    I just don’t see any evidence at this point to say he’s 100% guilty of both murders and even that he’s a serial killer.

  24. In regards to this predator on the loose in that is targeting wives who are planning on leaving their husbands.

    How in the world would this predator know which particular women are planning on leaving their husbands?!?!?!

    Is their some public domain registry? Were the names Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson on this list?

    What’s next?!?!?!

    I will guarantee you 1 additional predator on the loose and that is the SEXUAL PREDATOR named Yelton E. Cales once he is released.

  25. bb counselors, pastors, filing of seperation at the courthouse there are many ways and as I said it’s just another possibility at this point.
    Will county sure can’t explain all the missing can they?
    lol I agree on yelton and as far as him knowing the girls age I believe the girls parents told him to stay away and he did not so they pressed charges.

  26. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:08 pm Difference being Stacy was of legal age, and Yelton’s victim was NOT.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    No she wasn’t. She was 16 when he first started seeing her and he was a married man to boot. It wasn’t until after she turned 17 that he asked for permission from the police department to see her, even though he was married. I don’t want to get started on this again because it infuriates me. How can anyone say he was a smart cop? Yelton was 25 and the girl he raped was 15, one year younger than Stacy. Doesn’t excuse, but not much difference in Drew and Stacy. Plus, she ended up marrying the idiot.

  27. Drew *DID* publicly talk about Stacy taking money, bikini, etc. in an interview on FOX News. I asked JB about that contradiction, but he didn’t answer the query.

    Here’s the scoop:

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Result #19 on May 24, 2008, 12:24pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Joel,

    Previously I asked you:

    “How does DP know Stacy took her bikini and was wearing a red jogging suit if he was asleep when she left?”

    You answered:

    “The item about the bikini is what Pam Bosco said Drew told Cassandra Cales late on Oct. 28th. The only thing Drew has said publicly about the phone call is that Stacy said she had found someone else and is leaving. As to the red jogging suit, that is what Stacy was wearing on Oct. 28 when Drew last saw her before he went to sleep. This is what he told the state police and they put it on their missing person releases.”

    However, according to this article from FOX News (link below), Drew *DID* mention the bikini, cash and passport:

    “Drew Peterson maintains that Stacy Ann is “where she wants to be.” When asked if she removed anything from the house before leaving, he told FOX News she took cash, a passport and a bikini.”

    Three times now, when asked questions about the bikini and cash by members of this forum, you have stated that this was just a hearsay remark made by Pam Bosco, and that DP had never publicly stated any of this. Obviously, that is not true.

    Why bother to lie about something so easily disproved by public statements made by your own client? It only weakens your case, and credibility.

    My question is this:

    What did the bikini in question look like (style, color, size), in what denominations was the missing cash ($100’s, $50’s, $20’s, etc.), and *WHEN* did DP discover they, along with the passport, were missing?

    Link to FOX article:
    http://ww w.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307264,00.html

  28. Wonder if Stacy, Kathleen and Lisa all had the same divorce lawyer, and he’s really a serial killer cause his momma divorced his daddy and he ain’t never been right in the head ever since? Yup, DAT’S da ticket! 🙂

  29. ah bash are you hear to troll or discuss?
    If you wanna troll them I’m game and will play all night with you but I’d rather discuss even if it means something you don’t like to hear.
    think I like hearing all your hoopla all the time? nope but I don’t troll you!
    balls in your court.

  30. bb, first I don’t think that happened to Stacy because of what Drew said, but if it had, it doesn’t have to be what the woman’s martial situation was. They were both 5’1″ and wieghted about the same, maybe thats how the predator likes his women.

  31. there’s no proof she was 16 when they started dating wasn’t she dating Scotts brother when she was 16?
    another older man just not as ancient as drew.

  32. scott15 // June 2, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    bb, first I don’t think that happened to Stacy because of what Drew said, but if it had, it doesn’t have to be what the woman’s martial situation was. They were both 5′1″ and wieghted about the same, maybe thats how the predator likes his women.

    wow didn’t know they were both the same size and both had brown hair also.

  33. Uh, Cfs360, according to everything I’ve come across, Stacy and Drew started dating in 2001, during the summer. Stacy would have been 17 at that time.

  34. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    cfs, I thought she was emancipated, does anyone know when that happened?
    ++++++++++++++++++
    She was, at 17….not 16.

  35. basherette
    My question is this:

    What did the bikini in question look like (style, color, size), in what denominations was the missing cash ($100’s, $50’s, $20’s, etc.), and *WHEN* did DP discover they, along with the passport, were missing?
    *************************************
    I sure hope this is one of the first questions asked when this goes to trial…….as a matter of fact, basherette, you seem like you’d be great working with the prosecution……read all your questions on SYM……very impressive.

  36. I just went to read how long Yelton has before he has to register, and can you believe the booklet they give these people is 86 pages long….what the heck, you have to register, just go do it.

  37. bbismytown // June 2, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    In regards to this predator on the loose in that is targeting wives who are planning on leaving their husbands.

    How in the world would this predator know which particular women are planning on leaving their husbands?!?!?!

    Is their some public domain registry? Were the names Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson on this list?

    What’s next?!?!?!
    ——————————————
    Well said bbismytown!! Amazing tales from Freedom08 tonight!!

  38. I read where Cass said they actually started seeing each other at that motel/hotel where she was working nights when she was only 16. She graduated from high school early, but was working before she graduated. Then at some point she started working with Drew as an apprentice of some sort….dispatch maybe? Dont remember at the moment, but I’ll find all of thisin a little bit and post it.

  39. Freedom08, don’t know what your problem with me is, and frankly, I don’t give a damn. Why bother starting something? You’ll just end up playing by yourself- cause I’m not biting.

    Now, where were we…?

  40. no more amazing than some of the other tales I hear out here lookingfortruth guess you got all the evidence to convict drew. maybe you should clue us all in to the facts you have!!
    also look up the meaning of the word “possibility”
    but I know your type as long as I’m slamming drew it’s cool. hahaha and you claim to be looking for the truth!! lol that’s funny
    night all the trolls are out in full force have fun!!

  41. (quote)

    letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    I just went to read how long Yelton has before he has to register, and can you believe the booklet they give these people is 86 pages long….what the heck, you have to register, just go do it.

    (quote)

    WITHIN 10 DAYS OF RELEASE WITH EITHER THE LOCAL POLICE OR SHERIFF IF RESIDENCY IS UNINCORPORATED. DUE TO CLASSIFICATION OF SEXUAL PREDATOR – HE MUST REGISTER FOR THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE. I BELIEVE IT IS EITHER EVERY 90 DAYS OR ANNUALLY.

  42. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    I wonder if Sharon is fluffing the pillows for Yelton’s homecoming?

    basherette // June 2, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Wonder if Stacy, Kathleen and Lisa all had the same divorce lawyer, and he’s really a serial killer cause his momma divorced his daddy and he ain’t never been right in the head ever since? Yup, DAT’S da ticket!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

  43. Hopefully he can read……probably doesn’t matter though…..if the statistics are to be believed he may be back in prison before the year is over.

  44. He is labeled as a Sexual Predator, here are the requirements for that label:

    What is a Sexual Predator?

    ‘Sexual predator’ means any person who is convicted of a violation or attempted violation of the following sections of the Criminal Code of 1961, and the conviction occurred after July 1, 1999:

    Keeping a Place of Juvenile Prostitution;
    Juvenile Pimping;
    Exploitation of a Child;
    Child Pornography;
    Criminal Sexual Assault, if the victim is under age 12;
    Criminal Sexual Assault, regardless of the victim’s age (if convicted on or after January 1,2006);
    Aggravated Criminal Sexual Assault;
    Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault;
    Aggravated Criminal Sexual Abuse;
    Ritualized Abuse of a Child;
    Conviction of first degree murder, when the victim was a person under 18 years of age and the defendant was at least 17 years of age at the time of the commission of the offense and the offense was sexually motivated as defined in Section 10 of the Sex Offender Management Board Act;
    Certified as a Sexually Dangerous Person pursuant to the Sexually Dangerous Persons Act or any substantially similar federal, sister state, or foreign country law;
    Found to be Sexually Violent pursuant to the Sexually Violent Commitment Act or any substantially similar federal, sister state, or foreign country law;
    Convicted of a 2nd or subsequent offense, after July 1, 1999 which would require registration pursuant to the Sex Offender Registration Act; or
    A conviction for an offense of federal law, Uniform Code of Military Justice, law of another state or foreign country that is substantially equivalent to any of the these offenses listed above.

    Sexual Predators are required to register annually for their natural life.

  45. freedom08 // June 2, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    “oh poor yelton maybe lookingfortruth will read the 86 page manual to him and explain it.”
    ________________________
    Oh, Annie, oops I mean Freedom08, I never disputed anything tonight on the Yelton issue. He is a disgusting sex offender!! No defense needed for him!!

  46. I can’t believe they make reference to “juvenile pimping”……i guess it happens i’ve just never heard that terminology before.

  47. lol annie?? you definitely have no clue and I’ll conclude no logic either to go along with no clue!
    so am I annie or bigm or drew or JB or wife #5 make your minds up!! lol
    night trollingforlies!!

  48. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    I also hope someone has $ 20.00 to give him, he has to pay to register.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    rofl

  49. Huh? What is up with people accusing other people of being someone else?

    Is anyone else at there tired of this?

    *sigh*

    I just don’t get it, I guess. Does not compute.

  50. yes I’m tired of it but guess it’s the only comeback some can come up with.

    but please folks make up your mind I can’t be annie, bigm, drew, JB and wife #5 all in one!!

  51. freedom08 // June 2, 2008 at 11:40 pm
    lol annie?? you definitely have no clue and I’ll conclude no logic either to go along with no clue!
    so am I annie or bigm or drew or JB or wife #5 make your minds up!! lol
    ——————————————
    Nope, just lonely old Annie!! LOL
    Your need for attention & drama has become very transparent. You are losing your touch, Annie.
    Time to move on to some other missing person case.

  52. basherette // June 2, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Can’t you just be the Freedom08 who thinks I’m a pain in his arse?

    I am but shhh don’t tell anyone!!

  53. I’m not sure who is who….at first i tried to keep up with it but then i got super confused and then i just gave up {shrugs shoulders}

  54. Kathleen’s friend stated she knew Savio from a class they’d taken together in 2003. She wrote, “[Kathleen] started talking about her soon-to-be ex Drew [. . .] She stated that she thought that he’d hurt her. She told me that her marriage had broken up because of his ‘fooling around’ with ‘young girls’…”

    Drew allegedly met the girls while working as some kind of mentor or teacher for the Bolingbrook Police Department’s police cadet program.

    Kathleen’s friend continued: “Kathy stated that she’d called and told BPD about him with the girls, and, specifically one named Stacey, (that Drew had started fooling around with her when she was 16) but that they refused to do anything about it. She said that for awhile there would be a BPD car outside her house off and on, just parked across the street.”

    Savio allegedly said these things to her friend in the fall of 2003.

    After Drew Peterson moved into a home up the street from the place he’d shared with Kathleen Savio, Kathleen was asked how her soon-to-be-ex could possibly afford two $200,000-plus homes on a police Sergeant’s salary.

    According to her friend, Kathleen smiled and said, “That’s a good question.” She wouldn’t elaborate any further on the question.

    Kathleen’s former friend and colleague had a much more alarming story to relate about Drew Peterson — Kathleen Savio’s version of the story, at least:

    She told me that he had told her that he could kill her and no one would ever know. I had to walk her to her car a couple of times after class because she was afraid, saying Drew was trying to intimidate her in their divorce settlement, and was stalking her. They owned a bar together in Montgomery, Il and were partners in a (printing) company in (I think) Lombard, Il. She knew that he’d try to do something to her. She told me that Stacy would come over to her house and ring the door bell, and want to ‘chat.’ We both felt like she was somehow trying to ‘become’ Kathy; almost like she wanted to take over her life, if that makes any sense. Stacey had enrolled at [Joliet Junior College] and was going to go into the nursing program as well…

    According to the person who made the statement above, Drew Peterson was also investigated in the late 80s for “shaking down drug dealers for drugs” and money.

    Those charges were dismissed, due to lack of evidence.

    +++++++++++++++++++++
    This came from an article about Kathleen Savio on 11/09/07.

  55. Come on, DP is just surrounded by lots of scummy creatures. He’s the worst of the bunch, and you are stooping to his mentality by even thinking that his brother-in-law had anything to do with KS’ murder. Stacy didn’t make up some wild story to confess to her pastor.
    Drew wins, if we start poining fingers away from him. Drew was breaking into KS house just to “gaslight” her. Remember that KS flew into a rage, when she saw Stacy using her video camera, that she thought was stolen.
    As far as the warm barrel goes, He could have been keeping in the back of his closet, near a vent. I doubt if bodies start smelling horriific right away.

  56. lookingforthetruth // June 2, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Nope, just lonely old Annie!! LOL
    Your need for attention & drama has become very transparent. You are losing your touch, Annie.
    Time to move on to some other missing person case.

    trollingforlies again!!
    hahah this is funny seriously you need to get a clue and MOVE on sounds like you are obsessed with this annie person!!
    sorry about your fantasy I’m not annie and you won’t stop me from posting my views.
    nice try find someone else to try and intimidate I’ll eat you for lunch!!

  57. Uh, people *can* pos on multiple forums at the same time- well, not the *exact* same time, but you know what I mean. I’ve posted here and on other boards just by opening a new tab thingie.

  58. scott15 // June 2, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    sher, not to insult you but when i see that shark I think of Drew in a bar
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. Doesnt that friend have it a bit wrong, I think we can all agree that they met at the hotel she worked at.

    As for his income. He was drawing a salary from BPPD and had two businesses, that could possibly afford him to be able to get the second home. And I didnt understand if the person was saying, a cop could never live in a $ 200,000.00 house, or he couldnt afford two homes.

  60. Bash, did you read that about Stacy being 16? That’s one place I read it, but there’s another one with Cass.

  61. Other than Annie is posting on SYM, I do know for a *fact* that Freedom is NOT Annie.

    But no biggie, we are all secret on here anyways….lol

  62. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    I can tell you that Freedom is NOT Annie, Annie on my BigM’s writing this whole time.

    lol but but I’m bigm also don’t you know.

    ah zbunny you can just point in one direction. I’m pointing all over the place with possibilities remember some of those scummy people surrounding drew are the cales!!

  63. etthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    Everytime I see BigM all I can think is Mr Big on Sex in the City….lol.
    ***********************************
    thank god you said that….i thought i was the only one 😀

  64. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Other than Annie is posting on SYM, I do know for a *fact* that Freedom is NOT Annie.

    But no biggie, we are all secret on here anyways….lol

    lol I love it when I’m accused of being all these people that helps me weed out those that don’t have a clue. If they think I’m annie, bigm or the drew crew that tells me most of what they think is WAY OFF.

  65. They may have actually met before she finished high school if she was involved in the cadet program, then got friendlier after she started working at the motel.

  66. Freedom just the fact that you are posting on this board gives me a hint you arent a young adult, so now worries about being Mr Drew Number 5….;)

  67. facsmiley // June 2, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    When I see BigM I think BM, which is what my mom called…oh nevermind.
    ==========================
    omg……roflmfao

  68. LTTBF – I did not! It’s actually kind of nice out now. I know the time will come though. My house is about 120 years old and the furnace is probably 60 years old. At some point someone tacked central air onto the system, but it wasn’t really done right. We got someone out here to look at it who says he could start over…for $7k.
    So for now…

  69. lol Facs that’s what I always think!! hehe I’ve never seen sex and the city so BM always came to mind!!
    I don’t watch much tv!!

  70. Freedom, I just consider being accused of being someone else a form of flattery. Like being hunted down and targetted for banning on another board. 🙂

  71. Scott you are watching?

    Did you hear what they said before the commercial that a local news anchors home was raided by the FBI?

    Did I hear that correctly?

  72. facsmiley // June 3, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Freedom, I just consider being accused of being someone else a form of flattery. Like being hunted down and targetted for banning on another board. 🙂

    lol well then maybe someone will think I’m Sharon Stone now that would be flattering.

  73. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Scott you are watching?

    Did you hear what they said before the commercial that a local news anchors home was raided by the FBI?

    Did I hear that correctly?

    rutro this should be juicy.

  74. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Glad you said Sharon Stone and not Tatum ONeil….opps, did I say that outloud?

    snort snort

  75. Cfs7360- Stacy graduated high school in 2001.

    She’d been dating Keith Rossetto before she graduated, but was still seeing him when she was working at the hotel.

    DP met her at the hotel after she and the Rosetto kid broke up.

    DP and Stacy met *AFTER* she graduated, which would have been May/June 2001. She’d have been 17 at the time.

  76. letthetruthbefree // June 2, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    I also hope someone has $ 20.00 to give him, he has to pay to register.
    *******************************
    Does it mention anything about giving a DNA sample? Some states are requiring all registered sex offenders to give a DNA sample (swab of inside cheek) to have on file.

  77. g8trgirl // June 3, 2008 at 12:08 am

    maybe someone will think i’m Halle Berry……uh huh…..it’s Halle here.

    haha I almost said halle instead of sharon good thing don’t wanna take you secret identity!! 🙂

  78. Yeah it should.

    Now they are talking about gun violence in Chicago, they are talking to the children now.

    Here’s an idea about how to curb gun violence….Dont join gangs. Dont do dope. Dont expect the whole world to do your parenting job.

  79. Molly, yes he has to have dna registered, I think they did that in the prison though.

    I think, now I could be wrong, but I think if you are convicted you have to register your DNA, maybe even just arrested.

  80. Wow – and I thought it was rough here…

    “This comes after Mendte’s lawyer said Saturday that FBI agents approached his client Thursday and searched his home in connection with ”claims made by Alycia Lane.” She’s his former co-anchor who was fired in January.

    The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday that Mendte is alleged to have opened Lane’s private e-mail on many occasions over several months and the FBI is looking into whether he passed information gleaned from those e-mails to spread gossip on her to the media.”

  81. They take the DNA samples when they are already incarcerated (for SO’s still serving before the new laws went into effect) and/or during the initial processing of a new SO inmate.

    Many states go a step further and take the DNA samples when an initial arrest is made.

  82. Is Stacy’s dad in town still? I know he said he was due to move to California before she went missing. Does anyone know if he is still here or there?

  83. Scott, he was on CBS 2 here, before the Philly job.

    But I never watch 2, so his name didnt ring a bell with me.

  84. I believe he’s still in town lettruth but don’t know for sure they keep him hide pretty well.
    most pics I’ve seen or even the one interview he seemed so wasted he could hardly stand up.

  85. Haven’t seen anything that says he’s moved, and I’m pretty darn sure that he said his plans to move changed when Stacy went missing.

    Plus, considering the media frenzy this story generates, I think that some frenetic reporter would have said something if he had moved. Heck, I’m surprised we aren’t given daily updates on how much toilet paper DP’s using or how often he picks his nose… know what I mean?

  86. too bad the press doesn’t really care about the truth anymore just what sells!!
    cut throat is right, really sad though when our major source of info is biased and not seeking the truth.

  87. basherette // June 3, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Haven’t seen anything that says he’s moved, and I’m pretty darn sure that he said his plans to move changed when Stacy went missing.

    Plus, considering the media frenzy this story generates, I think that some frenetic reporter would have said something if he had moved. Heck, I’m surprised we aren’t given daily updates on how much toilet paper DP’s using or how often he picks his nose… know what I mean?

    oh heck yeah I know what you mean!! I’m surprised also!!

  88. That Amy Jacobsen, I have no doubt she was working Craig. I know first hand what a *flirt* she was with men.

    We had nickname for her in our home…but I wont say it here. We never referred to her by her real name, just her nickname….lol.

  89. Scott, I hope he brushes more than once a day…could someone ask Sharon how many times a day he brushes and flosses?

  90. cfs7360 // June 2, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    They may have actually met before she finished high school if she was involved in the cadet program, then got friendlier after she started working at the motel.

    *******************************

    What I can’t fathom about this is man who’s married and in his late 40’s dating a young underage girl, and the other police officers going along with it?

  91. Toothpaste, hmmmm…..

    HEY!!! He could have squirted up her nose and ….

    Uh, nevermind.

    One stupid theory is enough for me to have to live down…

  92. Men and women cheat everyday.

    Men will usually never, ever say anything to a co-worker, friend etc.

    Women normally will say something.

    Its just the nature of the beast.

  93. (quote)

    letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Yeah it should.

    Now they are talking about gun violence in Chicago, they are talking to the children now.

    Here’s an idea about how to curb gun violence….Dont join gangs. Dont do dope. Dont expect the whole world to do your parenting job.

    (quote)

    EXACTLY!

    And don’t have your kids hanging out on the streets after curfew!

    I read it constantly in the Trin and Sun-Times:

    example:

    TEEN KILLED BY GUNFIRE

    An innocent boy was shot dead by a passing auto last night. 14 year old Billy Smith was on the sidewalk with friends when at 2:00am gunfire came from a passing car……………..

    Sad, but true.

    I will tell you all for FACT that the later the night gets on weekends the greater the chance of TROUBLE!

    DUH! Now if some parents would clue in!

  94. freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 12:18 am

    too bad the press doesn’t really care about the truth anymore just what sells!!
    *************

    Freedom – do you really think that? Maybe I’m a starry-eyed optimist but I think that our media coverage is pretty good compared to some other countries. At least we have a fundamental law that provides freedom of the press, whether not it’s always followed.

    And I’d never lump everyone together and call them “the press” as if they all follow the same guidelines. I may not think very highly of network news (*cough* waste of time *cough*), but I think some people are interested in finding out the truth and reporting it and you just need to use your BS meter to ferret the good coverage out.

  95. BB –

    It’s everyone else fault, its society’s fault.

    My arse it is. Parents need to be responsible. And sadly in the city, 12 yrs old kids arent naive, they carry weapons.

  96. mollymcgee // June 3, 2008 at 12:21 am

    What I can’t fathom about this is man who’s married and in his late 40’s dating a young underage girl, and the other police officers going along with it?

    I don’t get that either totally unethical even if she is 17. bad move on bbpd especially since he was still married when they started fooling around.

  97. I really try to stay away from CNN headline news (Nancy, congratulations on the twins!!) and FOX (Please add your comments to my sucking vortex of a blog, says Greta!!), but the F of it is…if you want to follow this case you have to watch all that shite.

  98. I’ve done alot of research about this. According to FOX News/Greta/The Flintstones, and taking into consideration that he IS an almost 30 year veteran of the PD, I’ve come to the conclusion (link below) that he really *HAS* thoroughly investigated multiple times during his career *exactly* how often 9 out of 10 dentists recommend brushing and flossing his teeth per day.

    Here’s the link to the quoted article:

    🙂

  99. The only channel I will NOT watch is Fox…talk about making something outta nothing.

    The rest I will listen, but that is about it. Each station has their people that are good at certain subjects, and when something big happens I will turn on the channel that I think the reporter that is really up on whatever it is, is on.

    Does that make sense? lol

  100. facsmiley // June 3, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Freedom – do you really think that? Maybe I’m a starry-eyed optimist but I think that our media coverage is pretty good compared to some other countries. At least we have a fundamental law that provides freedom of the press, whether not it’s always followed.

    And I’d never lump everyone together and call them “the press” as if they all follow the same guidelines. I may not think very highly of network news (*cough* waste of time *cough*), but I think some people are interested in finding out the truth and reporting it and you just need to use your BS meter to ferret the good coverage out.

    yes I really believe that. I agree there are some few and far between currently that care about the truth but for most it’s what sells. Errors are rarely corrected, information isn’t vetted as it should be before it is released and on and on.
    If it wasn’t true then don’t you think we would hear more about the others missing in will county and see more of an effort to keep the names of the missing out there? We don’t it’s all about the current juicy drama of drew and stacy. it sells the others don’t including Lisa stebic.
    sad really sad.

  101. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Men and women cheat everyday.

    Men will usually never, ever say anything to a co-worker, friend etc.

    Women normally will say something.

    Its just the nature of the beast.

    *************************

    But, if Stacy was in the cadet program, the other officers had to know how young she was, and I’m sure they knew about Drew seeing her.

    It doesn’t say much for a police dept. if they look the other way when an officer has done something considered immoral.

  102. I can tell you all first hand that I have dealt with the press in a very tragic instance, and they are gutter scum as far as Im concerned.

    They will stop at nothing to get a story, they will harress, bother, stalk, hide, go around your back, anything to get the story.

    They pay NO attention if you say “no comment,” “Please respect our privacy”….those things mean nothing to them.

  103. facsmiley // June 3, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Bash – It’s and Internet forublogsite. No theory is too out there. 🙂

    exactly you throw them out there and eliminate them one by one if you have enough facts to do so. if not you never know.
    I don’t put anything past anyone anymore. How many times have we watch a mother and even father pleading for their child to be brought home safe only to find out later one or the other killed them? too many times.

  104. Molly, it happens everywhere, in every walk of life, and in ever profession.

    I’m not saying its right, just saying its the way we are as a society today.

  105. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:34 am

    They pay NO attention if you say “no comment,” “Please respect our privacy”….those things mean nothing to them.
    **************************

    Makes me want to watch “La Dolce Vita” again.

  106. Look at Marilyn Lemak here in DuPage County.

    Nurse, soon to be ex hubby a physican, beautiful home, three beautiful children…and what did she do, she killed the three children.

    It happens, it’s not suppose to, but it does.

  107. Well, that is true- but I still feel comfortable nixing the whole “Death by Toothpaste” theory anyways…

  108. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Freedom, exactly. And for me, that has made me hardened to it all.

    I watched a 48 hours show the other day about women killing and it was all walks of life, rich, poor some you would never have believed would want someone killed but there it was right on tape.
    So I just don’t believe in “they would never” when it comes to people anymore. they would and have over and over again.

  109. mollymcgee ??? I have been coming here and reading this blog for a lil while now and i must say you have some really really good thoughts about this case , the things you type make soooo much sense to me ..

  110. basherette // June 3, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Well, that is true- but I still feel comfortable nixing the whole “Death by Toothpaste” theory anyways…

    lol don’t blame ya!! even I haven’t gotten that far out there yet!! you never know it could have been the toothbrush!

  111. Look at Lizzie Borden. Only reason the all male jury didn’t convict her is because she was a “lady”, and of course, “ladies” did not go about violently killing people back then…

    What a crock. Elizabeta Bathory, anyone?

  112. I would love to be able to say Mothers and Fathers would never leave their children, kill them etc…but it happens, and it’s heartbreaking.

  113. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I would love to be able to say Mothers and Fathers would never leave their children, kill them etc…but it happens, and it’s heartbreaking.

    so true!!

    night all!!

  114. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Molly, it happens everywhere, in every walk of life, and in ever profession.

    I’m not saying its right, just saying its the way we are as a society today.
    ***************************

    If that had happened here, the police department’s Internal Affairs devision would have been all over it, and the officer in question would have been called on the carpet and possibly relieved of his job.

  115. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:39 am

    I havent seen La Dolce Vita….am I missing a good movie?
    *********************************

    Yes. One character is a photographer called Paparazzo who relentlessly photographs celebrities and common people alike. It’s the origin of the term paparazzi. The title translates to “The Sweet Life”. It’s about a journalist who runs with the fast set of Rome and loses touch with his humanity.

  116. cfs7360 // June 2, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Let, I’m sure they do. I”ve seen them locally trying to bait a suspect or person of interest. But I can’t believe they would put statements out on Larry King, Dan Abrams, and who knows where else that an arrest was forthcoming and that Stacy did not leave her hame and famly willingly. Just don’t think that’s an effort to try to weed anybody out. JMO.

    I brought this over to this thread, to comment on . Police put statements out for a reason so that the suspect reacts to what they say , and to see if what he does or goes where they put a body at, they did that in nj .. and followed him to where he dumped his girlfriends body he went back to move it somewhere else this was back in I think 05 I think or early 06.. but some do that , to have them panic or they do something wrong … that is why I think the LE put that out there..

  117. Molly, where is here? Just curious.

    It seems to be departments turn a blind eye, or dont do anything unless a formal complaint is made.

  118. methodical // June 3, 2008 at 12:39 am

    mollymcgee ??? I have been coming here and reading this blog for a lil while now and i must say you have some really really good thoughts about this case , the things you type make soooo much sense to me ..
    **********************
    Thanks………..I’ve been studying this case since the beginning and have thought about the possibilities.

  119. Lug, LE will say, and can say many things that arent the truth.

    I tend to think they said that early on, hoping it would make something happen. When that didnt happen, they cant easily go back and so no, we were just trying to catch the bad guy, they have to stick with it.

    I know Abrams could read into it and understand, hes an attorney. Now Larry King I dont know.

  120. anyone see my comment above? just wondering what your thought is , of it. I tryed to post before you bash but you beat me at the same time lol

  121. I should say I have no doubt they said it….I just doubt how much of it they believe. That’s all.

  122. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Molly, where is here? Just curious.

    It seems to be departments turn a blind eye, or dont do anything unless a formal complaint is made.
    *****************************
    Small city in California. Police are county sheriff, and in a case like this, Internal Affairs would have definitely investigated.

  123. We cant even agree on how old she really was when they started dating….lol.

    If she was 17, he did nothing illegal, nothing IAD could have done about it.

    If she was 16, then IAD could have done something.

  124. Molly , I agree with what you posted yesterday about drew getting arrested for Kathleen first & them taking the tub from the home was a sure sign that an arrest is coming and its coming soooon , I have also followed this case pretty close as well …

  125. basherette // June 3, 2008 at 12:49 am

    Anyone remember that movie “Murder By Death”?
    ********************

    Yes! Truman Capote was in it. 🙂

  126. Meth, I agree about Drew being arrested for Savio first, I didn’t read Molly’s post so if I’m repeating anything sorry. I believe they are dragging out on charging him with Stacy in hopes of finding a body and using the DNA they find on it.

  127. lugnut96 // June 3, 2008 at 12:46 am

    cfs7360 // June 2, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Let, I’m sure they do. I”ve seen them locally trying to bait a suspect or person of interest. But I can’t believe they would put statements out on Larry King, Dan Abrams, and who knows where else that an arrest was forthcoming and that Stacy did not leave her hame and famly willingly. Just don’t think that’s an effort to try to weed anybody out. JMO.

    I brought this over to this thread, to comment on . Police put statements out for a reason so that the suspect reacts to what they say , and to see if what he does or goes where they put a body at, they did that in nj .. and followed him to where he dumped his girlfriends body he went back to move it somewhere else this was back in I think 05 I think or early 06.. but some do that , to have them panic or they do something wrong … that is why I think the LE put that out there..
    ******************************

    I agree………….the simple statement that Stacy didn’t leave the Peterson home willingly, and that they have evidence…….seems to be just a statement of fact, an assurance to the public that they are confident the case will be resolved.

    I remember Larry King reading the statement when he interviewed Drew (and Joel) in April. At that time, I just took it as a statement of fact.

    But, I guess it could have been meant to see if there would be a responsive action by Drew.

  128. The more I have thought about the bathtub, I wonder if the homeowners weren’t doing a remodel and asked ISP if they wanted it? It’s not going to hurt the ISP at all to have it, whether or not it’s needed, but if the homeowner threw it out, then they could never get it back.

    I know they did their windows not too long ago also.

  129. Scott there again i would agree about them hoping to find Stacy’s body , I think the thought is lets do him on Savio first and continue to look for Stacy — sad thing is i dont think Stacy will ever be found BUT i think even if she isnt found that the state will go forward and charge him sooner or later for Stacy as well , drew acts way to cocky like he almost knows she will never be found ..

  130. I just think they really cant go *back* on that statement now, once they said it early on, they have to stick with it, until there is an arrest, or the case dropped all together.

  131. I think the state will be using that tub in court to show the jury just how Savio was found dead in the bath tub — shock factor for sure !

  132. Oh and the day Drew gets arrested we have elected Scott to be our play by play reporter from Bolingbrook…..:)

  133. letthetruthbefree ?? the isp seized that bathtub from the home the papers said – it also said that the homeowners were compensated for the tub as well so i’m thinking they were not doing a remodel – just my thoughts

  134. methodical // June 3, 2008 at 12:56 am

    Molly , I agree with what you posted yesterday about drew getting arrested for Kathleen first & them taking the tub from the home was a sure sign that an arrest is coming and its coming soooon , I have also followed this case pretty close as well …
    ************************
    It’s logical. By prosecuting the case in which they’ve got a body and an autopsy that states it was homicide, the grand jury can opt to leave the case of Stacy’s disappearance open pending the finding of her body.

    Of course we don’t know what evidence the grand jury has. If they feel there’s an abundance of evidence, they could opt to indict on both cases.

    I feel that once we hear the grand jury’s decision, we’ll have a general idea of the strength of both cases.

  135. Sidney Wang: And you Mr. Charleston, did not approve of Mrs. Charleston dying her hair blond?
    Dick Charleston: What do you mean?
    Sidney Wang: Mrs. Charleston’s hair red. You have blond hairs on shoulder. This means she has dyed red hair blond, then back again to red, or else you have been… So sorry, Wang is wrong.
    ******
    Sam Diamond: Locked, from the inside. That can only mean one thing. And I don’t know what it is.
    ******
    Willie Wang: Who do you think is the murderer?
    Sidney Wang: Must sleep on it. Will know in morning when wake up.
    Willie Wang: But what if you don’t wake up?
    Sidney Wang: Then YOU did it.
    ******
    Jamesir Bensonmum: She murdered herself in her sleep, sir.
    Dick Charleston: You mean suicide?
    Jamesir Bensonmum: Oh no, it was murder, all right. Mrs. Twain HATED herself.
    ******
    Milo Perrier: He’s gone!
    Jessica Marbles: Who’s gone?
    Milo Perrier: The butler. Here’s the key.
    Sidney Wang: If butler gone, where you find key?
    Milo Perrier: In his pocket.
    Jessica Marbles: What pocket?
    Milo Perrier: The butler’s pocket.
    Sidney Wang: Butler gone but pocket still there?
    ******
    Willie Wang: I don’t hear nothin’. What do you hear?
    Sidney Wang: Double negative, and dog.
    ******
    Sam Diamond: Wouldn’t you know, out of gas.
    Tess Skeffington: I saw a station about five miles back, Sam.
    Sam Diamond: [hands her a gas can] I want you to know I’m gonna be waitin’ for ya, baby.
    ******
    Tess Skeffington: My feet are killing me. Why didn’t you tell me we needed oil before I went back for gas?
    ******
    Sam Diamond: Now, if one of you gentlemen would be so kind as to give my lady friend here a glass of cheap white wine, I’m going down the hall to find the can. I talk so much sometimes, I forget to go.
    ******
    Sidney Wang: What meaning of this, Mr. Twain?
    Lionel Twain: I will tell you, Mr. Wang, if YOU can tell ME why a man who possesses one of the most brilliant minds of this century can’t say his *prepositions* or *articles!* “What IS THE,” Mr. Wang! “What IS THE meaning of this?”
    Sidney Wang: That what I said! “What meaning of this?”
    ******
    Inspector Milo Perrier: Everything here has been rented for tonight. The butler, the cook, the food, the dining room chairs, everything!
    Jessica Marbles: You mean…
    Inspector Milo Perrier: Yes. This entire murder has been… catered.
    ******
    Sam Diamond: Shut up, all of ya’s. Nobody move!
    Dick Charleston: What is it?
    Sam Diamond: I have to go to the can again. I don’t wanna miss nothin.’
    ******
    Willie Wang: [as they are about to leave Twain Manor] … I don’t get something, Pop: WAS there a murder, or WASN’T there?
    Sidney Wang: Yes: Killed good weekend. Drive, please.
    ******
    Inspector Milo Perrier: Touch nothing!
    Jessica Marbles: Will you stop saying “touch nothing?” We’re all experienced criminologists. I find it insulting, debasing, and redundant to keep telling us to “touch nothing!”
    Inspector Milo Perrier: Oh, be quiet, woman!
    Jessica Marbles: Up yours, fella!
    Sidney Wang: Most amusing. Bickering detectives like making lamb stew: everything goes to pot!
    ******
    Sam Diamond: Look all over him.
    Dick Charleston: All over his body?
    Sam Diamond: Well, somebody’s gotta do it. I’m busy standing guard.
    Dick Charleston: Why don’t I stand guard? You look all over the body.
    Sam Diamond: All right, we’ll take turns. You look over the first dead, naked body that we find and I’ll look over the second.
    ******
    Sidney Wang: Very interesting theory, Mr. Charleston. However, leave out one important point.
    Dick Charleston: What’s that?
    Sidney Wang: Is stupid. Is stupidest theory I ever heard.

    🙂

  136. OT

    This is funny. Those Brits are still fighting on Boston.

    Neil Entwistle’s hometown in England are standing behind the nice *lad.*

    Because you know being a Brit in Boston makes you guilty instantly.

    This is gonna be one good trail.

  137. Meth, thanks for clearing that up. I’ve been asking and looking around for something about what the ISP planning on doing for the homeowners in the event they really did seize it.

  138. Lionel Twain: I will tell you, Mr. Wang, if YOU can tell ME why a man who possesses one of the most brilliant minds of this century can’t say his *prepositions* or *articles!* “What IS THE,” Mr. Wang! “What IS THE meaning of this?”
    *********************************

    See! I blame Truman Capote for my grammatical hangups!

  139. Its pretty sad that drew cant go out to look for his wife / the mother of his children but he can go out at 2:30 am to help some 22 yr old female out ..

  140. LET, if it’s while I’m at work it’s 1 mile (if that) from the BB pd and maybe 2 from Drew’s. As long as do it during the day.

  141. Scott….Yeah, its not far at all. With gas prices the way they are, maybe you can offer your services to Fox, that way they wont have to put the helicopter in the air for that 2 mile drive….hahahahahaha.

  142. Meth, going with any man who has as missing wife on this. Let’s say he goes out and helps search for his wife and he IS the one who finds her. Everyone will say he knew where to look.

  143. Nobody is *really* searching.

    The ISP is no longer searching.

    Drew is not searching.

    The FSP is not searching, or at least not all the much, too many fundraisers to organize, and boats, sonars etc to buy.

    Its pathetic all the way around.

  144. Let, if they issue a warrant like the gun charge he should go to BBPD to turn himself in (like the gun charge) and then off to Will County (with the copters following him again). Maybe Fox will give me a ride and let me use a lap top to give updates.

  145. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 1:21 am

    On second thought, he wont be brought the BPPD, he will go directly to Will County.
    *************************
    How far is it from Bolingbrook to the county jail?

  146. Well Scott i kinda see your point but if that was me i would be out looking for her all the time and spending money to do so if needed … Bottom line is this IF he really didn’t have anything to do with Stacy leaving then him being a cop for 30 yrs should know that she has met foul play so the need to look for her is very important but drew does not help look because he knows right where he put her after he killed her ..

  147. If I thought my husband, I don’t have one, but if I did, left me for another women….I would be damned if I would go looking for him.

    I would seek legal advise and find out how quickly I could divorce him.

    And I think again, that we give Drew too much credit. Bolingbrook is NOT that big of a town that they have a lot of murders. Its possible he only worked a couple in 30 years. So he wouldn’t know all the in’s and out’s of investigating one.

  148. Scott…………a question: How do you feel about the Bolingbrook Police Department?

    I remember reading that Chief McGury was brought in to clean up corruption within the dept. I’ve wondered about this, because if there was corruption, it could play a role in KS’s death.

  149. I just hope they dont arrest him during Nascar Weekend, that will just make traffic that much worse…..LOL.

  150. Meth, don’t forget Drew is still playing the she left me card and says she is off on some beach somewhere. And in his eyes he thinks putting up a reward and hiring a PI to find her is enough.

  151. LET , whom do you like in Nascar? how about the 88 JR ,

    so did anyone watch hockey monday?? I hope the red wings win wednesday lol

  152. I know that Scott but common sense would tell me that something is wrong ” DEAD WRONG ” and drew didn’t hire any PI’s to find her he hired PI’s to try & dig up dirt on her , Stacy goes missing and he is on a t.v show bad rapping her and playing the victim role , he’s a loser

  153. And Molly i can answer that question for you about Bolingbrook because i live there also , Ray McGury is a stand up guy no doubt about it and as far as corruption ? there has been plenty in Bolingbrook – we can start with the mayor if ya want

  154. scott15 // June 3, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Molly, the BBPD is a piece of work that needs alot of improvement.
    ***********************
    Thanks. That plays a role in my theory that when in comes to Kathleen’s murder, Drew would know who could be counted on to help cover for him.

    Usually, when there’s corruption, it’s among the ranks of the long-term officers, who have learned the ropes and know who’s who within not only their dept., but in other city/county depts. too.

  155. Chief McGury was not the Chief of police when Savio was found dead in the tub it was Chief Eech ( i think thats the spelling of his last name ) and what a scumbag he was

  156. methodical // June 3, 2008 at 1:40 am

    And Molly i can answer that question for you about Bolingbrook because i live there also , Ray McGury is a stand up guy no doubt about it and as far as corruption ? there has been plenty in Bolingbrook – we can start with the mayor if ya want
    ************************
    Thanks Meth! I have good feelings about Chief McGury.

    I’ve heard that the mayor (Claar ?) is part of the overall problem.

  157. they call the mayor of Bolingbrook Boss Hog becuase he thinks he can do as he pleases like Boss Hog from the dukes of hazzard did .. We’ll see how he acts once the feds hand down an indictment to him shortly .

  158. scott15 // June 3, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Meth, great hockey game tonight.
    And yes Claar is the overall problem.

    I mentioned the hockey game teehee, the red wings will WIN WEDNESDAY YEAH TEM lol..

    and aren’t you supposed to be in bed teehee, my brothers the same name lol it is late in illinoise isn’t it ?? here is midnight

  159. It’s going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.

    If the trial stays in Will County, maybe both of you could get into the county courthouse and sit in on the trial……..some real on the scene reporting! 🙂

  160. sorry for typo doing it in dark little one still up , so watching to see if he comes out of room … and typing by flash light also lol

  161. YEAH that would be great , I know a few people that did that with the Robert blake trial and they took notes while it was going on , and then posted it online..

  162. I’m sure that drew will request for a change of venue , he wont want this case to stay in will county

  163. lug, I’m getting ready to get off here in a few and go to bed. For hockey if Wedn is another game like tonight, being greedy like I am, I’d like to see a game 7. Yes I don’t want it to end.

  164. so so true Scott, it was great watching it to bad I wont be home to watch it darn it , I have to work till 2am I took mon and tues off .. they where all tired ..

  165. lugnut………..ah yes, I can never remember if AZ is the same time during daylight savings or during the winter.

  166. Meth, I agree, there is no way this case will be in Will County, plus if they ask potential juriors in WC if they heard of this case everyone will say yes.

  167. Meth………..I think you’re right. It would be to his advantage to have a change of venue, and the court will probably grant the defense request.

  168. mollymcgee // June 3, 2008 at 1:58 am

    lugnut………..ah yes, I can never remember if AZ is the same time during daylight savings or during the winter.

    YES , I keep puter time NJ time so we know when to cal lmy mom inlaw…. cause I forget also lol..

  169. GOOD nite molly, I to am going to bed gotta take son to his day camp he wants to swim it is going to be at least 101 today…

  170. The state should have no problem convicting drew of these 2 cases and for surely not if drew keeps that meathead brodsky — Ha Ha

  171. http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?
    id=3882766&page=1
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Morning Rescue. There was so much going on here last night, everybody must be sleeping in this morning, lol.

    I had brought up that Stacy was said to have been 16 when she met Drew, and I know there are lots of things out there saying she was 17, and I can understand why it would be stated that she was 17. However, there are quite a few articles, etc. that state she was 16, so I’m posting this one too. Who knows how old she was, but for the sake of propriety, it would be better for all involved if it was said she was 17.

    This is all I’m going to say about it. I think she was really 16 and neither she nor Drew wanted anyone to know. Others believe she was 17. That’s okay too. It doesn’t really matter anymore because she’s not here to say one way or another, and Drew certainly wouldn’t admit to it if she was.

    Going to check out the link you posted. BBL.

  172. morning rescue. Thanks intereseting I thought it was a go and ready for the gov’s signature. I’m sure the GJ will be extended now.

    I’m still confused how this would work, before they can use any statements of say kathleen they first have to prove he killed her. does that make sense?

  173. morning cfs
    I got page not displayed on your link.

    as far as how old she was 16 or 17 either way I think BBPD made a bad decision in approving of this.
    The timeline fits she was 17 especially since she was dating Scott’s brother at the time. but you are correct it would not surprise me if they were fooling around when she was 16 and keeping it hidden.
    again had she had the proper support system maybe this would not have happened but seems most of stacys family had no problem with stacy and drew being a couple.

  174. got the link to work cfs interesting only cassandra is saying she was 16 so who knows.

    but this statement from pam make me wonder how stacy would jeopardize the children? most women get the children so what does this mean?

    and my advice to her was get a lawyer, do it properly, you have children involved. Make sure you don’t jeopardize that.

  175. Freedom, it does sound s little tricky, huh?

    The measure, backed by the Will County state’s attorney’s office, would allow a judge to decide whether hearsay testimony could be admitted into court if it is proved that the defendant contributed to the disappearance of a witness by illegal means. The bill was amended to apply only to first-degree murder cases.

    Guess if the phone records can verify that Stacy tried calling Drew several times that night, that would be a step toward proving Drew wasn’t in his house in the bed with Stacy as he said.

  176. thanks cfs I just had a duh moment and didn’t copy all the url!! I was up way past my bedtime last night!! lol

  177. freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 9:22 am

    got the link to work cfs interesting only cassandra is saying she was 16 so who knows.
    ++++++++++++++
    Kathleen also told others she was 16.

  178. when Mr. Peterson introduced Mrs. Peterson to his family it was in the capacity of a babysitter…she would watch the children while he and Ms. Savio were not home.. it doesn’t matter what Mr. Brodsky says… just like he claims to have met Kim at the tanning salon at the end of April as well.. Mr. Brodsky’s lies will come back to bite him soon enough… very very soon….

    In figuring out Mrs. Peterson’s age at the time.. think back to the village.. how old was Mrs. Peterson when she started working at the village.. how old was she when they supposedly met at the hotel…

  179. cfs yes real tricky, it seems circular almost have to prove he killed them but need the hearsay evidence to convict him. dk but seems like Will county really needs this law passed in order to convict drew.
    on the phone calls since the house’s are so close and probably ping off the same tower, how can they prove that stacy was actually at home unless she called with the home phone. or even that drew wasn’t at home?
    or what if there are no records of any calls that night to back up this story?
    so many what ifs in this case, hopefully we will find out something soon.

  180. freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 9:15 am

    morning cfs
    I got page not displayed on your link.

    as far as how old she was 16 or 17 either way I think BBPD made a bad decision in approving of this.
    The timeline fits she was 17 especially since she was dating Scott’s brother at the time. but you are correct it would not surprise me if they were fooling around when she was 16 and keeping it hidden.
    again had she had the proper support system maybe this would not have happened but seems most of stacys family had no problem with stacy and drew being a couple.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Freedom, the intersting thing to me about Scott is if she was dating him at 16, or even 17, he was 12 years older than her. When she disappeared at 23, it was stated he was 35. Guess she just liked older men for that father figure thing. With father like hers that stayed drunk and called them names, etc. I guess she was just looking for someone to get her out of what she was living in.

  181. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 9:24 am

    freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 9:22 am
    Kathleen also told others she was 16.
    —–
    I thought she used the words teenage girl, but you are probably correct. to me 16/17 still way to young for bbpd to bless it and I can’t believe they did. just wrong.

  182. In the end i think that people will find out soon enough that LE has more than enough evidence that Mrs. Peterson never left her home of her own free will that day…the amount of evidence against Mr. Peterson is not small.. and while it may not have been a slam dunk because of the body not being found.. make no mistake.. there was a murder committed by Mr. Peterson.. and they do have proof.. and all of the assumptions will come back to make fools in the end..

    In regards to law.. its a necessary evil.. if you want the right to confront your accuser your best option is not to kill them… otherwise you forfeit your right… right…

  183. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 9:29 am

    freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 9:15 am
    Freedom, the intersting thing to me about Scott is if she was dating him at 16, or even 17, he was 12 years older than her. When she disappeared at 23, it was stated he was 35. Guess she just liked older men for that father figure thing. With father like hers that stayed drunk and called them names, etc. I guess she was just looking for someone to get her out of what she was living in.

    yes I think she did like older men and I totally agree she was looking for a better life then daddy cales gave them.
    I don’t recall hearing that she was the baby sitter for drew/kathleen before.
    just the thought of them sneaking in the basement while kathleen and the kids were upstairs is freakin creepy. then the thought that they took kathleens bed and have used it since her death is even creppier.
    I really feel stacy was street smart and knew what she wanted and went after it and that was drew. I also believe she realized OMG and wanted away from him and was seeking other male attention.
    it’s pretty common for a woman to find another man to get her through getting away from their current spouse/lover. probably is they usually end up in another not soo good relationship because they don’t take the time to find who they really are they just jump from man to man.

  184. iknowwhatudont, you must know something I don’t because I haven’t seen anything written or said about how much evidence there is out there. You said it wasn’t small. Just curious how you know. Can you share it?

  185. Freedom, I never heard about her being a babysitter either, but since I’m not local, I’m definitely not privy to all the hearsay/gossip in this case.

  186. well IKWYD you are making assumptions also like everyone else that posts about this case. I don’t think anyone is a fool for what they believe I do think that your calling of others fools is pretty low down and nasty!
    but it’s what I’ve come to expect in this case from many on the net!!

  187. no..i cant.. which means for now i get to listen to everyone say how i dont know anything at all.. but when it all comes out then people will know that i really did know what they didnt! lol

    and freedom i actually agree with your last post… its very sad to see women do that.. jump from man to man.. afraid of being alone..or not sure how to be on their own… breaking the cycle is so hard to do..

    and yes… Mrs. Peterson was the babysitter.. i’m sure that will come out at one of the trials…

  188. i’m not assuming anything… mark my words… say whatever you like now… and accuse me of whatever you like… but in the end when it all comes out (and it will) … you remember what i said.. and maybe toss me nod…

    but do please understand that i never said you would be a fool.. or anyone specific… i just said assumptions would make fools.. and yes there will be some… but then there always are.. right…

  189. iknowwhatudont, sure would be great if you could back up what you’re saying with something concrete.

  190. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Freedom, I never heard about her being a babysitter either, but since I’m not local, I’m definitely not privy to all the hearsay/gossip in this case.

    I think there tons of information that is innacurate everywhere concerning this case.

  191. IKWUD time will tell what the truth is or it maybe that we the public will never know what it is you know or how you know it without being LE. but at this point most joesmoes posters including me only have what we get from the media to go on otherwise these boards would be dead silence because we know it all.

  192. iknowwhatudont // June 3, 2008 at 9:46 am

    i’m not assuming anything… mark my words… say whatever you like now… and accuse me of whatever you like… but in the end when it all comes out (and it will) … you remember what i said.. and maybe toss me nod…

    but do please understand that i never said you would be a fool.. or anyone specific… i just said assumptions would make fools.. and yes there will be some… but then there always are.. right…

    understood and I will toss you a nod when and if your info pans out!!

  193. IKWUD- your posts are very intriguing! I would certainly imagine that you are not about to “divulge” who you are, but you have information, you are saying, that is not out in the public?

    I never heard about Stacy being the babysitter for the Petersons. However, I can come to a lot of the same conclusions, based merely on my own opinions from what I’ve learned after all of the public information, that LE does have quite a bit of damaging info about DP. Suffice it to say, SP’s sister has emphatically stated publicly that LE told her SP did not leave of her own will. I’ve also read that the cadaver dogs had positive hits in the bedroom.

    But, again, there are people here that are absolutely convinced that he’s a murderer, and some who would prefer to wait for all of the facts to come out. And you?

  194. “I just wish she would have planned it a little better,” he told ABC News, “that she would’ve gotten out of the house before she told him.”


    from the article you posted cfs. I just don’t understand this, in the article it says the family suspected drew killed kathleen, they also state how afraid stacy was of drew. I just don’t understand the advice given to her by many including the pastor. my gosh get her out of that house immediately don’t even risk a chance if you feel he killed his ex-wife.
    I just don’t understand this at all, I know hindsight is 20/20 but dang it’s pretty common knowledge that the most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when you try to leave. Surely the pastor knew this, I just don’t get it.

  195. no.. im weighing my options..im not a hit and run poster… im trying to decide if there is a win to this situation.. or if no matter what it wont make a difference.. if i post something.. it just opens up a can of worms.. if i dont you say im just blowing smoke.. if i say something and it turns out right you say i got lucky…im trying to figure out the win here… lol

    i’m going to have to pass on giving out something just to prove im being honest.. i dont blame you for doubting me.. heck.. call it like you see it.. but i do try to provide accurate information where and when i can…

    we are all here for some reason or another..and none of us know it all.. i do promise you something.. when this is all over.. i will prove myself to you.. that’s the best i got…

    anyone know who goes up at the GJ this week..

  196. IKWUD I don’t think anyone has yet to say out here that you are blowing smoke or gotten lucky.
    just discuss if you know things behind the scenes ofcourse many will question it.
    we are all starving for some real facts and evidence that can be backed up in this case.
    are you connected to LE or the family and that’s how you know what we don’t?

  197. i read somewhere that the biggest mistake women in abusive relationships make is to try to take babysteps out of the relationship instead of cut and run cold turkey get out fast… they think they can make things go smoother by doing it in small steps.. easing into it.. when all it does is infuriate the abuser and put them in great danger… they say the best way to get out with a chance is to just leave…

    what do you think… do you think its better to try to do it in small steps or to just yank it like a bandaid…

  198. Re: GJ ~ no, nothing’s come out about the GJ. If the session was to be over at the end of May, I would think there’d be some news of that, or, in the alternative, of it’s extension. This has been on intense GJ session. Stebic/Savio/Peterson. Whew.

    I am surprised, though, that LE has not made a public statement about it’s status. Maybe we’ll hear in the next couple of days. Of course, not who’s appearing, since that’s secret, but just what is going to happen now with the session.

  199. I say in an abusive relationship just get the heck out of dodge don’t tell them and be prepared for them to hunt you down.
    babysteps IMO don’t work with abusers.

    I haven’t heard who’s at the GJ or if the GJ has been extended.I’m assuming it is being extended since the hearsay law is still not passed.

  200. iknowwhatudont, I won’t let you forget to do that. And how are you going to do it by the way, prove yourself that is? Personally, I hope you’re right on the money with all of this because I think Drew is responsible and want to see him brought to trial. Then, like it or not, it’s up to a judge and jury, so who knows what the outcome will be? Since you say you know about the evidence, will you say whether or not it will be enough to get a guilty verdict?

  201. rescue I think it would be in the best interest of the DA to give the public a press conference why they aren’t I don’t understand. but then again I don’t understand much about this case except it seems to be a tragedy with lots of drama surrounding it.

  202. i believe that the GJ will run at least until the 26th of June..

    it must be a very difficult GJ to sit on..

    how is that the SP and KS have had so many people called and Lisa seems to have not had very many at all..

    do you believe that is a lack of evidence against Mr. Stebic..or more.. some people believe that all of the people called to the GJ for Mr. Peterson show that they are grasping at straws.. does this mean that less is more..

    And did anyone hear anything about the body in Lynnwood.. did they find out who it was..or wasnt..yet…

  203. body in lynnwood was a male.

    I believe they don’t have much evidence on stebic either and really feel they are focusing more on drew than anything else. possibly we aren’t hearing about who’s being called in the stebic case seems the media is not interested in others that are missing in will county seems all their focus is on drew/stacy.

  204. i do not claim to know about all of the evidence.. i just know some of what exsists.. and some of the lies that have been told…please dont get me wrong.. but yes.. i do believe there will be enough for Mr. Peterson to be convicted..

    you know this place has been pretty decent lately.. not alot of drama or fighting.. something changed.. i cant put my finger on it..

    very refreshing…!

  205. iknowwhatudont, you just pretty much anwered your own question about Lisa not having many people called. As similar as the cases of Stacy and Lisa might be, Drew also is being looked at with Kathleen’s murder, was a police officer, and married four times. Lots more people to interview with him. Not so many apparently with Craig Stebic.

  206. at least they found someone .. somewhere a family is one step closer to answers…right..

    Will Co. sure does seem to have alot of missing people… men..women..wives…teenagers..

    i’ve heard the rumors of a serial killer.. but that would be a strange mix of victims..

  207. Morning. It’s storming here.

    I think a couple of people may have been banned finally. Or they just got bored with trolling.

  208. I wonder if Will County has more missing people than other counties statistically – or if it just seems that way to us.

  209. freedom – I think it would be good, yes, to hear something about the GJ, but that’s because I want to know everything about this, LOL!

  210. i wonder if we could put together a list of the people who are missing from Will Co. or the immediate surrounding area…you would think with all of the searching for missing people they would have at least stumbled across someone else that was missing…

  211. iknowwhatudont:
    you know this place has been pretty decent lately.. not alot of drama or fighting.. something changed.. i cant put my finger on it..

    very refreshing…!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    It depends a lot on who is posting. Sometimes, it can get a little out of order on here.

  212. rescueapet // June 3, 2008 at 10:28 am

    freedom – I think it would be good, yes, to hear something about the GJ, but that’s because I want to know everything about this, LOL!

    me also but I feel that in a high profile case as this that LE and the DA should have press conferences every once in awhile even if it’s just a dog and pony show.
    not much trolling IMO I’ve had a few but I know I strike a nerve with my with my out of the box wondering so I expect it.

  213. iknowwhatudont // June 3, 2008 at 10:30 am

    …you would think with all of the searching for missing people they would have at least stumbled across someone else that was missing…
    *****************************

    And if they find them, they could cut off their tops and bottoms and recycle them!

    Sorry, I’m just kidding.

  214. iknowwhatudont // June 3, 2008 at 10:30 am

    i wonder if we could put together a list of the people who are missing from Will Co. or the immediate surrounding area…you would think with all of the searching for missing people they would have at least stumbled across someone else that was missing…
    —-

    you would think it’s like there is this big black whole in will county that swallows up people without a trace. wierd

  215. facsmiley // June 3, 2008 at 10:32 am

    And if they find them, they could cut off their tops and bottoms and recycle them!

    Sorry, I’m just kidding.
    —–

    LOL now that is funny and soo bad!! hehe

  216. Freedom said: not much trolling IMO I’ve had a few but I know I strike a nerve with my with my out of the box wondering so I expect it.

    Freedom, even though we don’t all agree, I enjoy seeing other’s points of view. Sometimes it amazes me how we can all see and hear the same information and yet, be so diverse in our opinions. Out of the box is good, and I’m sure the defense is counting on that more than we realize.

  217. IKWUD said: what do you think… do you think its better to try to do it in small steps or to just yank it like a bandaid…

    Yank it! Why prolong the agony? If you live with a killer, odds are you could definitely be next if you cross him. I don’t believe she took the chance to leave though, but I do believe she could be underground, literally.

  218. Check out my space aginglothario, its funny ! Someone has a sense of humor, even thou none of the facts are funny. I wonder if Steve Dahl did this?

  219. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Freedom said: not much trolling IMO I’ve had a few but I know I strike a nerve with my with my out of the box wondering so I expect it.

    Freedom, even though we don’t all agree, I enjoy seeing other’s points of view. Sometimes it amazes me how we can all see and hear the same information and yet, be so diverse in our opinions. Out of the box is good, and I’m sure the defense is counting on that more than we realize.

    I agree I love hearing everyone else’s theories and thoughts. It is amazing how we can all see things differently but guess that human nature.
    oh you bet the defense is counting on the out of the box theories all they have to do is show reasonable doubt and that’s the best way to do it.
    But I have learned that what we the public believe and what is actually brought into court are normally two different things.

  220. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 10:50 am
    I don’t believe she took the chance to leave though, but I do believe she could be underground, literally.

    —-

    yes literally or underground as in hiding. an abuse underground network would have helped her in a heartbeat get away safely and never mention it to LE.

  221. i believe she is not underground, literally or otherwise…. i believe that Mr. Peterson did not learn a thing from the previous Mr. Peterson and that when Mrs. Peterson is found it will be in the water…

  222. grandma most underground networks would prefer the kids are left initially because the woman is easier to track. Normally they will come back at a later time and snatch the kids up.
    Although it’s a possibility I dont’ know if she reached out to the right people to put her in contact with a network like this.

  223. Re: underground ~ freedom, I’m not so sure about someone in an abuse underground network doing that. With all the people looking for her, at the very least, wouldn’t they contact LE and say she’s safely in hiding? Do you mean a “private” underground network, one that is not funded with donations and tax dollars? One that is strictly a word-of-mouth kind of network?

    I would highly doubt this to be the case, either way, because she would have left behind some kind of electronic trail to indicate she was looking into leaving, such as when she contacted Attorney Smith, the divorce attorney. Which leads me to the next conclusion. Why would she have bothered contacting this divorce attorney 3x, only to high tail it out of town without a clue, leaving four minor children behind without so much as a kiss goodbye?

  224. freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 10:56 am

    cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 10:50 am
    I don’t believe she took the chance to leave though, but I do believe she could be underground, literally.

    —-

    yes literally or underground as in hiding. an abuse underground network would have helped her in a heartbeat get away safely and never mention it to LE.
    +++++++++++++++
    I meant as in buried Freedom. I read about the women’s underground net work, and it was said that technically there is no underground where a woman can safely hide or be hidden because there is too much technology that find anyone these days without much effort. Know that’s a theory supported by some, maybe even you, but I think that’s a stretch, to say the least. In other words, I don’t believe that for a second. No offense intended to you though.

  225. rescue these networks are not funded at all by our tax dollars and yes they would never ever give up anyone to LE because that would also give up the entire network.
    and you won’t find these networks by searching the web either.

    speaking of the divorce attorney I’m curious about something he stated along the lines that stacy was going to bring him more clients. Almost like she was bartering with him.
    how many did she know that were divorcing and needed legal representation?

  226. the problem with that besides evidence is that if Mrs. Peterson had done that.. there would be no reason for her to not have come back now.. she could have half his money, custody of the children, watch him go to jail for Ms. Savio’s murder and get everything… and she would be the safest woman on the planet because there is no way he could touch her now… not with everything that has come out…

    so she would have .. the kids.. the money… him gone.. and safety..

    she hasnt broken any laws.. and if she were alive she would not be in legal trouble for her knowledge of kathleen’s death because what she told the pastor is privalaged in the sense that it cant be used against her…

    so.. she’d have nothing to lose.. and she’d have everything to gain by just popping in to say hi..

  227. cfs7360 // June 3, 2008 at 11:08 am

    I meant as in buried Freedom. I read about the women’s underground net work, and it was said that technically there is no underground where a woman can safely hide or be hidden because there is too much technology that find anyone these days without much effort. Know that’s a theory supported by some, maybe even you, but I think that’s a stretch, to say the least. In other words, I don’t believe that for a second. No offense intended to you though.

    I understood it as you mean buried. Well if the technology is so great then why so many missing people in America? Not all are dead, lots of people up and leave and are never heard from again.
    I’m not taking any offense I don’t see any signs that stacy was reaching out that way. It’s just another possibility and these networks do exist without the knowledge of LE and many others.

  228. No, I don’t see how that network could work without a lot of money and volunteers. I also don’t know of any mother who would save herself and leave her children. I’ve had some social services experience and I just don’t see that as a very likely possibility.

  229. can you show me where the attorney said that…i have never heard that until now.. that is very interesting.. i wonder who else she was talking about… does anyone know what types of law this lawyer does.. is it just family law… does he only do divorces… or does he represent other areas as well…

  230. iknowwhatudont // June 3, 2008 at 11:12 am

    the problem with that besides evidence is that if Mrs. Peterson had done that.. there would be no reason for her to not have come back now.. she could have half his money, custody of the children, watch him go to jail for Ms. Savio’s murder and get everything… and she would be the safest woman on the planet because there is no way he could touch her now… not with everything that has come out…

    so she would have .. the kids.. the money… him gone.. and safety..

    she hasnt broken any laws.. and if she were alive she would not be in legal trouble for her knowledge of kathleen’s death because what she told the pastor is privalaged in the sense that it cant be used against her…

    so.. she’d have nothing to lose.. and she’d have everything to gain by just popping in to say hi..

    that’s assuming he did kill kathleen and remember stacy gave him an alibi so she could be charged also.
    I don’t see much gain right now for her to pop back in if she was able to.

  231. IKWUD I’ll look for it.

    grandma these networks do exist trust me and there is also an underground network for abused children.

  232. iknowwhatudont: I haven’t heard that about other clients either, but then that’s nothing new. I don’t know it all.

    I don’t believe Stacy was smart/wise enough to even consider an underground network, and also, that she even knew of such a thing. Would definitely surprise me if that was the case. I’m agreen Rescue, she was trying to work out a divorce and Drew knew she wanted to leave….had known for awhile and was trying to buy time with motorcyles and diamonds.

  233. I don’t believe she’s going to be ‘popping’ in to say anything, I don’t believe she is living. Underground, maybe. Cremated, maybe. Under water, maybe. But I believe she is deceased.

  234. there are a few underground networks for battered and beaten women who go in and rescue the women and get them out and put them underground.. hiding them from the abuser.. especially in situations where they feel restraining orders or protective orders will not actually do any good…

    however i have never heard of a single one of them leaving the children with the abuser.. the children normally come with the victim.. yes.. the law does not penalize you for walking out on your child if you are being abused.. and you can still come back and get them.. its not abandonment.. but no organization for victims that i have ever heard of ..underground or otherwise.. would leave the children with the abuser…

    with the victim gone.. the abuser will look for another outlet to their abuser.. and when the victim gone the abuser may be pushed into fits of rage at the loss of control…

    not sure which organization would encourage leaving a child in that situation… espceially when that child could be used as payback to the person who left.. but whichever one that would be..i would not recommend using it..

    get out..but taken your children with you..

  235. I will believe that those networks exist; I know especially for women who have married men from foreign countries that they do help hide the women and snatch the children who may have been taken back to the father’s home land. However, I don’t believe they are involved in this case, it is possible, but not probable, IMO.

  236. she could have half the money and the kids.. or actually she could have everything if he went to jail.. heck she could come back and have the reward money from both sides.. .plus half his stuff.. plus the kids..

    prove she lied without the Pastor .. which cant be used against her if she is alive and involved..

    prove she knew at all without the pastor..
    you think Mr. Peterson is going to step up and call her a liar on his alibi…

    prosecutor already said she hasnt broken any laws otherwise..

  237. cheenaproductions // June 3, 2008 at 11:23 am

    wondering what you all think of the speech reversals on Drew……….
    +++++++++++++++
    Not much.

  238. cheenaproductions // June 3, 2008 at 11:23 am

    wondering what you all think of the speech reversals on Drew……….
    +++++++++++++++++
    Guess I should have said it’s an interesting theory, but I put about as much stock in it as all of those psychics that said Stacy would be found in April. We see how that played out.

  239. Morning –

    Well I see I miss the hit and run poster…darn it.

    Crappy day here, good day for napping and watching movies.

  240. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Morning –

    Well I see I miss the hit and run poster…darn it.

    Crappy day here, good day for napping and watching movies.
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    No, they came back. Said they were just thinking….

  241. gotta run I’ll find the lawyers comment and post them it will be this evening seems like it was on a video after he went the the grand jury!

  242. Regardless of what some might think, I think Stacy had more of a hand in Kathleens Savio’s death if it truly is a homicide.

    Its easy to say, she would have walked away from that easily….Not so quick sparky, she would have been dragged through the mudd, right along with Drew.

    People should be careful of what they wish for…thats all Im saying.

  243. cheenaproductions // June 3, 2008 at 11:23 am

    wondering what you all think of the speech reversals on Drew
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    I think they are silly.

  244. i dont think there is any evidence to indicate that Mrs. Peterson was involved in Ms. Savios death other than the alibi issue.. if i am wrong can someone correct me please..

    i hope the hit and run poster comment wasnt directed at me.. i havent hit and run yet.. and i dont plan on it… just because what i am saying may not be what some people want to hear doesnt mean that its hit and run..

  245. I just had a very interesting conversation with someone regarding GJ’s, and how quickly they can get someone indicted if they know 100 % that person committ a crime.

    The answer, in 10 minutes.

    I was also told the longer it goes, the less the State has and is basically buying time.

    So that makes me wonder if the ISP has told people they are 100 % certain Stacy is dead, and Drew did it, why there is no arrest?

  246. Unfortunatey Iknow, you are probably right. The only thing that raised my shackles was that he called Kathleen’s sister after finding her, and said that she drowned.

    If she was in a dry bathtub, with a gaping head wound, wouldn’t the first thought be that she had a head trauma and died?

    Who would think she drowned, finding her like that? Except the killer who drowned her?

  247. Let, it would be interesting to know if Drew and Stacy ever talked about doing away with Kathleen, and had a plan, but somehow I just can’t make myself believe that. She had a baby boy and another baby on the way or just born when Kathleen died. I just can’t believe that she would have had a physical hand in Kathleen’s murder, nor that she would have left her baby at home to accomplish something like that, and certainly not if she had been very pregnant. It’s just a stretch to me, but there’s so much I don’t know about all of this. Just can’t buy that though.

  248. “I was also told the longer it goes, the less the State has and is basically buying time.”

    I have also been told that in a complex case, with two capitol murder charges at hand, that the GJ will take it’s job a bit more seriously that a ten minute pause.

    I believe the time bought is more about finding the body and more evidence than whether they think there is a probable arrest forthcoming.

  249. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 11:35 am

    I just had a very interesting conversation with someone regarding GJ’s, and how quickly they can get someone indicted if they know 100 % that person committ a crime.

    The answer, in 10 minutes.

    I was also told the longer it goes, the less the State has and is basically buying time.

    So that makes me wonder if the ISP has told people they are 100 % certain Stacy is dead, and Drew did it, why there is no arrest?
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    Maybe that’s how so many ham sandwiches get indicted.

  250. cfs, I’m on the mindset that Stacy was a very scrappy person, she would do whatever she had to, to keep what she had.

    And I also wouldn’t doubt that family members of her’s could have helped also.

    It’s hard to look at her pictures, and imagine she is anything but a loving mother and wife, but there is another side to Stacy, one that people dont want to discuss.

  251. The point with the GJ is for those yesterday that were insisting that charges could not be filed until the end of the GJ. Charges can be filed at anytime.

  252. Let said: It’s hard to look at her pictures, and imagine she is anything but a loving mother and wife, but there is another side to Stacy, one that people dont want to discuss.
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    I agree, and I’ve read the article about her stomping on her stepmother while she on the floor, but that girl had it so rough growing up, and who knows what the stepmother did to her. I’m not afraid to discuss ANY side of Stacy, and we all know that she was probably promiscuous in her teen years. Even Keith Rosetto was 12 years older than she was when she was dating him as a teen, but that doesn’t make her a murderess. I agree, she was desperate for anything better than what she had at home, but killing to get it? I just can’t believe that.

  253. I agree Let, that there is more to Stacy than we know.

    In desperation girls from questionable homes look to older ie more secure men to bail them out of their crisises.

    They dont end with that, though,, once they discover what’s behind the picture and grow up, maybe by age 23.

  254. cfs, thanks. At least you are understanding what I’m trying to get at.

    Its not popular, or in good taste to talk about the so-called victim, but in something as serious as this, everyone has to be looked at, and everyone surronding these people.

    They have picked apart the young lady drew was dating, they have picked apart his neighbor friend, they have picked apart his family, sons etc.

    Has anyone really had a deep, long discussion about Cassandra, Yelton, Bruce etc. No.

  255. RedFox // June 3, 2008 at 11:43 am

    But I still think he’s been too smooth, and a cop too long, to get caught.
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    RedFox, my post came too late. I don’t agree with this statement you made, but the one about the GJ.
    Yes, Drew has been a police officer for a long time, but his entire career seems to have been riddled with stupid decisions and irresponsibilty. Such as asking to date a teenager while he was still married. How smooth is that? And he’s still doing the same old stupid things! Just look at the Kim incident. Just look at his whole life with women! Just look at anything he does! He’s just a dumb bunny who doesn’t seem to be able to grow up.

  256. Red, exactly. They can file at anytime.

    People yesterday were under the impression that the charges could NOT be filed until the Grand Jury was done, and said indictment.

  257. I don’t know how anyone at this point can say that there are sides to Stacy that haven’t been heard about or discussed.

    During the last six months, I’ve seen her called an angel, a prostitute and everything in between. If there is a side to that woman’s life that you don’t know about…then I’d say you haven’t been reading!

  258. True cfs, you are wise, None of the above qualifies him as being smooth on the job, I guess I was talking more about his way with picking up women.

    Stupid is more what I would get out of him dumbfounding career.

  259. i dont think there is a single bit of evidence, even circumstancial that connects Mrs. Peterson to Ms. Savios death aside from the alibi..

    the people who know Stacy.. the same people who admit that she had an affair with a married man.. who admit that she made alot of mistakes when it come to Ms. Savio also say that in the end she regretted how she had treated her and the things she had done..

    let us not forget that Ms. Savio was also guilty of the same thing Mrs. Peterson was.. she walked the same path before Mrs. Peterson with Vicki… almost exactly.. does that also make her capable of murder…

    Mrs. Peterson made alot of mistakes.. not alot o smart choices.. and it looks as if she paid for those with her life.. but LE who does have all of the evidence we do not feels that Mr. Peterson killed Mrs. Peterson… and have not made a single mention of Mrs. Peterson’s involvement in Ms. Savios death… but i guess we will have to see who the GJ indicts on those 1st degree murder charges it appears the prosecution is gunning for with the new law…who knows.. maybe it will be Mrs. Peterson right..

  260. Facs, I have been reading, but have you also noticed how quickly those discussion are over?

    And it always boils down to “she was young.” Well that doesn’t mean she wasn’t street smart, and maybe had a darkside.

  261. Facs, I;ve been reading, but between the lines. What is said about a person as a sound bite is not real telling. I give her the benefit of the doubt because she is not here to defend herself. I would hope I would get the same. There are unpretty chapters in all our lives, but they do not dictate how the story ends.

  262. Did Kathleen Savio change her name back to her maiden name when she and Drew divorced? Is that why she’s always called Savio and not Peterson? I’ve seen her called Peterson on some legal docs.

  263. When Yelton gets out into the real world what will he be saying about all of this ? He had reasons of his own to be part of this, he was living in the trailer behind Drews home, what may he of done to help ger rid of Kathleen ? Will he be before the GJ?

  264. What a shame, Kathleen deserves justice.

    What about waterboarding suspects? I heard GWB say that was okay now?

  265. letthetruthbefree that is not true.. you know as well as i do that there have been lots of conversations about Cass, Bruce, Yelton, etc…

    i think the problem is that all of the evidence, circumstancial and otherwise points to Mr. Peterson.. so talking about Cassandra Cale’s speeding tickets, Yeltons incarceration for child abuse, or Bruces age difference with Cassandra are just for what.. entertainment purposes?

    The bottom line is that Mr. Peterson drew the line in the sand with the phone call from Stacy that she left with 25,000 dollars and a bikini and was going to a beach… we now either have to believe that.. or believe he lied…

  266. I guess I just presumed her family went by her maiden name when they spoke about her.

    I think a lot of women with children when divorcing keep the name, just to make it easy with the kids etc.

    But I could be wrong!!!!

  267. RedFox // June 3, 2008 at 11:58 am

    True cfs, you are wise, None of the above qualifies him as being smooth on the job, I guess I was talking more about his way with picking up women.

    Stupid is more what I would get out of him dumbfounding career.
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    You have to wonder about the women he tries to pick up………they must have a motive too because it isn’t his good looks.

  268. no.. they have not named a suspect in Ms. Savios case.. and in the end i think you will find that was the smartest thing they have done so far..

    yes.. i think Ms. Savio changed her last name back to Savio..

    Even if Mrs. Peterson had a dark side and so on.. i seriously doubt she killed herself and hid the body to frame Mr. Peterson.. but i could be wrong..

  269. Yelton was in prison for MUCH MORE than child abuse, stop trying to gloss over who he really is.

    Cassandra was arrested and spent time in the County Jail for more than a speeding ticket.

    See thats the problem, nobody wants to see it for what it really is.

    Poor Yelton, the girl lied to him, wah, wah, wah. Poor Cassandra, she was just speeding, wah, wah, wah.

    Come on now…that’s BS, and you know it as well as anyone else that wants to look at all the angles.

  270. iknowwhatudont // June 3, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Even if Mrs. Peterson had a dark side and so on.. i seriously doubt she killed herself and hid the body to frame Mr. Peterson.. but i could be wrong..
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    The defense might use this as an argument though.

  271. I think conversations that speculate about a dark side to Stacy are short because they aren’t based upon much.

    Besides the stepmom-stomping and the altercations with Kathleen, most of the statements about her are postive. Most people say that she was friendly, generous, a loving mom, and the polar center of the Cales family.

    On the other hand, you’ve got a lot of people coming forward with very negative feedback about Drew. People say that he has stalked, threatened, pushed and harrassed them. People who used to be his friend, partner and even a son who have cut off all ties to him (before Stacy went missing). He also is embroiled in a mystery involving two wives – one a victim of homicide, and one completely vanished.

    There is just a lot more to contribute to a discussion about Drew’s dark side than, say , Stacy.

  272. All the real innocent people in the world take the 5th. Wait, Wait! He took the 5th because everyone in bolingbrook is a liar. Ok i understand it now.

  273. Let said: Come on now…that’s BS, and you know it as well as anyone else that wants to look at all the angles.
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    Let, some people just don’t want to be a party to bad mouthing Stacy’s family.

  274. i dont get it.. no one is defending Cass or Yelton here that i can see.. who is glossing anything over? i believe i actually said child molestation..

    You seem as blind to Mr. Peterson as you think everyone is of Cass and Yelton.. are you really looking at all of the angles.. or are you looking at all the angles outside of Mr. Peterson..

    you may be looking at angles.. but i’m looking at evidence..

    show me some that points me in the direction that Mrs. Peterson killed Ms. Savio.. that Yelton had anything to do with it.. or Cass.. or whatever else you are trying to insinuate..

    Show me some evidence.. not an angle.. if i was interested in angles id go listen to Mr. Brodsky talk about how Mr. Peterson met Kim at the end of April or how there was never a blue barrell.

    (by the way..im not taking personal shots.. just going back and forth..so if you are going to get personal.. skip over it.. i would rather not create any drama here.. we can disagree respectfully or we can end the conversation.. your choice…)

  275. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    More people should learn to take the 5th!!!!

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    I hear ya, I for one am sick of people being charged with crimes and missing woman found.
    Who wants that!!!!!!!!!!!

  276. LTTBF – I can’t speak for other people, but I’m interested in all the people involved in the case. I’ve seen the arrest records of family members and take them for what they are.

    If people are charged with crimes and then those charges are discharged or dismissed, then I believe that was valid. IMO, to try to make more of charges that were dropped is to want to not see things as they really are.

    If there is more to those arrests and charges than what we are reading, tell us here. Why be vague? If you know more than what we’ve been seeing and can tell us, please do! You know that the majority of people who post here are hungry for the facts and want to know the truth – whatever it is.

  277. But those same people, it’s ok for them to bad mouth the other side?

    I will never understand the thinking of some, I really won’t.

    All I can hope for is people that sit on this potential Juror, will look at everything.

    That’s all that is asked.

  278. Not being from the area, I may not know as much historically about Stacy or her family as some of you do. I have read that she was a ‘wild child’ in her teen years – so was I. She is not perfect; nor is her family. If we look only at each person from they day that Drew and Stacy were married; Drew still looks bad, IMO. I believe Stacy tried to overcome her bad choices and be a responsible parent and wife. Until evidence shows otherwise, that is what I will keep believing.

  279. Maybe he won’t go visit Sharon. That probably would not be wise with Drew next door. Too much temptation for Yelton to get into trouble again, IMO.

  280. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    But those same people, it’s ok for them to bad mouth the other side?

    I will never understand the thinking of some, I really won’t.

    All I can hope for is people that sit on this potential Juror, will look at everything.

    That’s all that is asked.

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    The other side murdered their loved one.

  281. Facs, I could bet most of us at one time or another have had a speeding ticket, right?

    You don’t spend time in County Jail for a speeding ticket.

    Here is Cassandra’s record regarding the supposed speeding ticket.

    A compilation of DuPage County circuit court proceedings of Nov. 22-30.

    Felonies
    Cassandra M. Cales, 21, 218 S. Park, Westmont. Aggravated fleeing a police officer exceeding 21 mph over limit: guilty; 4 days imprisonment, court costs/fines,$250. Resisting or obstructing a police officer: case dropped. Battery-make physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature: guilty; 4 days imprisonment, court costs/fines,$190. Speeding 40 mph or more over the limit: case dropped. Disobeyed traffic control signal: case dropped. Improper lane usage-change lanes unsafely: case dropped.

  282. Sharon could use Yelton to stir the pot so to speak. There has not been an uproar over there for awhile, hopefully she knows better than that, but she is friends with Cass.

  283. Yes some of the charges were dropped, and I’m thinking this was a plea bargain. Some charges stuck, and some didn’t.

    Regardless, this is a bit more than a speeding ticket, and it shows an aggressive side to Cassandra.

  284. so there is the other side.. but what does it prove.. what does it show.. what does it even hint at… how does it all relate to Mrs. Peterson’s disappearance and her being a victim of foul play (LE says) … and how does it relate to Ms. Savios death..

    im misisng how one is related to the other.. you have been one to point out many times that all sorts of things from Mr. Petersons life that we dont like have nothing to do with the crimes and are irrelevant.. so why is this..

  285. White, I wouldnt doubt it for one second if she didnt stir something up.

    With any luck, they will keep far away from Bolingbrook.

  286. What is your point, Let? Do you have reason to believe that Cass was involved in either her sister’s disappearance or Kathleen’s death? Are you saying that Cass deserves the heartache she now lives with because of her irresponsible actions in the past? If you wish to share some knowledge then do so. Otherwise, this is gossip and has nothing to do with the case.

  287. grandma i have to agree.. keep the angles.. show me some evidence.. even circumstancial.. show me why you believe above and beyond what LE has said that these things may be possible..except as a defense of Mr. Peterson..

  288. Re: All angles – I’m interested in seeing, also, anything that would exculpate DP, and/or point to someone else being involved.

    I’d like to also know why Anthony “Bindy” Rock was before the GJ.

    Anyone know if Michael Robinson appeared yet before the GJ?

    Why was former BBPD P.O., Marcus Patterson, subpoenaed to appear and testify before the GJ?

  289. Gatehouse – question. Did Mike Robinson appear before the GJ in the Peterson matter? I don’t remember seeing anything that he did. Curious.

  290. Grandma, it has everything to do with this.

    Some, me included, don’t find it hard to believe that Stacy did take off on her own. She was young, Drew brought up retirement and she decided that wasn’t part of her plan to have him around all the time.

    We know she was exchanging “racy text message” with people other then her husband.

    How do we not know that Cassandra doesn’t really know where Stacy is?

    How do we know that they didn’t expect it to take this long to indict him for Kathleens murder.

    I can so picture her coming from wherever she maybe is once he is arrested, and say something on the lines of ” I had to leave, I feared for my life”

    As far as Cassandra, it all goes to show her credabilty.

  291. Why was former BBPD P.O., Marcus Patterson, subpoenaed to appear and testify before the GJ?
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    Whitewitch, just wondering if you could answer that for us? Any ideas?

  292. I would like to know why the only time Brodsky could get Drew to shutup was in front of the Grand Jury.

  293. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Who is Bindy Rock, that name doesnt ring a bell to me?
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    Only a convicted cop killer/drug dealer that Drew helped send to prison.

  294. Thats true, its the one and only time Drew actually listened to Joel’s advice. Since then there has been alot said that should not have come out to the public.

  295. Google Anthony Rock or Bindy Rock. Can’t believe you’ve not heard of him before regarding this case.

  296. I am very disappointed when I hear Cassandra or Yelton brought up in any of this, as I believe it has no bearing on DP’s innocence or guilt, to tell you the truth!

    I could just as well bring up DP’s son. He’s reportedly been know to “skirt” the rules in the P.D. he works in, and that’s public knowledge. I believe his supervisor has it in for him, yes, but Stephen gives him a bat in which to beat him over the head with! Like the GJ fiasco, appearing in uniform. Prior to that, he had a few other rule violations. Regardless, it has nothing to do with his father’s guilt or innocence.

    What does have some effect, if we’re going to bring in family, is the fact that Stephen Peterson was up his father’s you-know-what immediately upon SP’s heading out with the bikini. That’s info that was provided by Mims. I believe he helped his father retrieve the car, didn’t he?

    But, I guess my point is, unless someone out-and-out shows me they had a hand in any of this, I say don’t go there.

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    Bindy Rock is a bad due, someone that DP arrested for drug charges.

  297. If the hearsay law goes in the there will be alot to hear so to speak. They all will being coming forward.

  298. LTTBF – how do you want to tie together what you see as an indication of Cassandra’s having an aggressive side to either the homicide or missing person case?

    Even if I were to agree that an incidence of speeding and making insulting remarks revealed that one of the victim’s has a sister who has an aggressive side, I still couldn’t make the jump to it somehow implicating her in a murder.

    I’d need something more like…Cass had someone watch Kathy’s workplace while she entered Kathy’s empty house and then stole things. Or Cass is on record as having said that she could kill Kathy and make it look like and accident or…Kathy filed complaints against Cass after Cass entered her house, cornered her and threatened her, Cass had a history of bugging people’s phones, stalking ex-loves and harrassing them from a position of authority, etc.

    But, see….we don’t have those kinds of statements about Cass. We have those statements about Drew.

  299. cfs, once you said who he was, it came back to me. I will google him though.

    Rescue, dont you think it at least far that anyone that was close to either Drew, or Stacy be looked at in this case of Kathleen?

    From all accounts Yelton was living in the trailor at the time of Kathleens death.

    I would expect everyone to be questioned.

  300. I think Bindy Rock was the guy Drew was taking bribes from and then in somekind of plea deal he was asked not to testify about Drew.

  301. Here’s a piece from acandyrose regarding what Mims said about Steve Peterson. This was shortly after he went to Drew’s home and was told that Stacy took off:

    “Mims asked what he could do to help, and Drew told him to stay over, that he and Steve had to go get Stacy’s car, which Drew said he’d stashed at a neighbor’s house after first bringing it home from the airport Sunday night.” – “I wondered why he’d moved Stacy’s car somewhere else,” Mims told the ENQUIRER. While Drew and Steve left, Mims sat with the Kris and the two young ones in the living room.” – “In the livingroom of his Illinois home, 13-year old Kris Peterson, a champion middle school wrestler, was wrestling with a problem as he talked to family friend Richard Mims. “My one mommy died, and my other mommy went away,” Kris told Mims. “I don’t know what to think about this.” – “Mims remembers trying to comfort Kris as they talked about his mothers. “he looked frightened, and I told him: ‘Well, you just have to hope for the best,'” Mims said, assuring the boy that Stacy would be coming home.”

  302. Gatehouse – funny thing – I can’t find anything about him appearing before the GJ. I find that very, very odd. He’s a main character in this Peterson story. Very strange.

  303. Facs, I understanding what you are saying.

    I guess I question her honestly, and how truthful she was on the night that Stacy disappeared, and all the comments she has since made.

    From her record I take it she has no respect for LE, or laws for that matter.

    I have had a problem with her from the very get go, and its no secret. I have said this numerous times. He actions that night, and the days following didn’t scream to me a women that was frantic on finding her sister.

    That is just my opinion.

  304. I’m not saying that Cass isn’t/wasn’t agressive nor am I saying that she didn’t break the law. According to the charges, she could have gotten a lot stiffer sentence. I’m not saying that she didn’t help Stacy run away. I would like something that would indicate that she helped Stacy run away, though. If this is the case, why on earth was she so open about begging to know Stacy’s whereabouts? That would be drawing attention to something that she should have wanted to keep quiet, IMO.

  305. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    From all accounts Yelton was living in the trailor at the time of Kathleens death.
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    I’ve been looking for something to back this up the last few days but I haven’t been able to find anything. Do you know where that was reported?

  306. Grandma –

    In my opinion she was not a sister that was frantic to find her sister. And here are my reasons.

    Supposedly, according to Cassandra, Stacy told her on Friday that if she went missing, he did something to me.

    They are suppose to meet on to go painting. Cassandra claims she didnt know too much about that, but she didnt want to do that, and instead want to go see Pam. To me, Cassandra knew Stacy’s whereabouts all the time, they were together all the time. So I find it hard to believe she didnt know about the painting.

    She claims she tried Stacy several times that day by phone and couldnt get ahold of her.

    At that point, if my sister had said in the last 48 hrs, if I go missing he did it, my radar would be going crazy. As they always were able to get ahold of one another.

    I will give her the fact that she was young, but if she was with Pam, and told Pam early on, which I dont believe she did, what Stacy had said, and that she couldnt get ahold of her, Pam would have advised to her to the PD. I respect Pam a lot, and think she is very bright.

    The whole day, and evening go by, and still no contact with Stacy?

    The timing between the departments she was reporting at, dont match to me. If she was in Bolingbrook PD at midnight, and was told to go to the ISP, and didnt end up there until 2:00am, thats 2 hrs, its now more than a 15 minute ride between the two stations. Where did that other hour and 45 minutes go?

    If Sharon was truly as close to Stacy as she claims, and Cassandra was over at Stacy all the time, I would think Cassandra would have a way to get ahold of Sharon, correct? Why didnt she call Sharon that afternoon and have her see what was going on?

    Nothing is matching in my mind in regards to that day she went supposedly missing.

    Now granted Drew’s story isnt making sense to me either, so who am I to believe….I dont know.

  307. LTTBF – the only way I might even think about looking at Yelton, would be if someone pointed out that he was at DP’s beakon call on a regular basis, just like Mike Robinson and Ric Mims, and if he was a known willing participant in any of Drew’s follow-the-wife escapades. The mere fact that he lived behind DP’s house, if that is, indeed, true, is useless to me.

    If, on the other hand, he was investigated, as should have been Savio’s bf and Peterson, then he must have cleared the hurdles if her death was still ruled an accident.

    Besides, Brodsky is too busy telling Savio’s bf to get lawyered up and hasn’t even mentioned Yelton. Seems he would have if it was a feasible route to take!

  308. So many twists and turns, and people.

    I need a dry erase board to keep them all straight.

  309. The timing between the departments she was reporting at, dont match to me. If she was in Bolingbrook PD at midnight, and was told to go to the ISP, and didnt end up there until 2:00am, thats 2 hrs, its now more than a 15 minute ride between the two stations. Where did that other hour and 45 minutes go?
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    Who knows how long she had to wait at either place? I thought I had read that Stacy was considered a missing person at 2:00 am, not that that was the time Cassandra arrived when someone else questioned the same thing.

  310. CFS, its usually the time the person asks for help.

    It’s hard to explain, but I will try.

    Let say I call 911, my car has been damaged. The call is time stamped with the time I called, and also the time the officer arrives.

    He makes the report of the car damage, and then gives me the report number for my insurance.

    That report number has the time and date in it, based one the first call.

    I understand the State Police doesn’t have officers sitting around waiting for walk in’s, so they probably had to call an officer in off the street. But the intial contact was when she entered the ISP station and the radio call was made to have someone come in.

    Does any of that make sense….lol.

    Sorry if its confusing.

  311. Rescue, I’m with you about Mike Robinson and the grand jury. He is a very important part of this from the beginning, and he’s either testified in secret, or hasn’t been called yet.

  312. Just posted this on the new thread but here it is again:

    Not gonna lie folks, we’re totally stumped on why some people’s links go to spam and others’ don’t. Not matter how lenient we make the rules on the spam filter, your links are still being caught. For now, just type the URL in a way that breaks the automatic link…, unless you find rescueapet’s method works for you. Sorry for the hassle.

  313. Downers Grove.. right.. was the other station.. she went to 3..

    she went to one station outside of BB because he was a cop there.. they told her she had to go to BB.. she went there and they sent her to ISp

  314. I was wondering where you all were.

    If you’re having trouble with posting a link, try this: leave off the http://www.

    Just type it like this:

    mysuburbanlife.com/oakbrook/news/x1767333406

  315. whitewitch07 // June 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    When Yelton gets out into the real world what will he be saying about all of this ? He had reasons of his own to be part of this, he was living in the trailer behind Drews home, what may he of done to help ger rid of Kathleen ? Will he be before the GJ?
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    I don’t think the grand jury would have to wait for Yelton to be released from prison. If they felt his testimony was important, they could do a video link from the prison to the grand jury. They’re using video links more and more often now.

    I would think that with Yelton living in the Peterson motorhome in the backyard, his testimony would be important. Did he see or hear anything unusual the weekend that Kathleen was murdered?

  316. rescueapet // June 3, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Re: All angles – I’m interested in seeing, also, anything that would exculpate DP, and/or point to someone else being involved.

    I’d like to also know why Anthony “Bindy” Rock was before the GJ.

    Anyone know if Michael Robinson appeared yet before the GJ?

    Why was former BBPD P.O., Marcus Patterson, subpoenaed to appear and testify before the GJ?
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    I don’t remember ever hearing that Mike Robinson appeared before the grand jury.

    There are several others that I would expect to appear before the grand jury, but have not heard anything about.

    1. Mary – Kathleen Savios next door neighbor and best friend. She, along with her husband, was reported to be with Drew Peterson and Steve Carcerano in Kathleen’s house the night Kathleen’s body was found.

    It was reported that Mary’s husband testified before the grand jury, but no mention of Mary testifying.

    2. It was reported early on that a neighbor saw Srew Peterson and an unidentified man carrying a blue barrel/container from the house and load it into Drew’s Denali.

    I haven’t seen any mention of a neighbor testifying before the grand jury.

    3. Tom Morphey – there’s been no mention of Tom testifying before the grand jury. It’s possible that he did testify by some sort of video link?

  317. I found this in an article of mike robins .. of what he said..

    Meanwhile sources say police want Michael Robinson, a longtime friend of Drew Peterson’s, to take a polygraph.

    When asked why he would not take the polygraph, Robinson said, “I can tell you that when they start invading my personal life then I’m not going to take the polygraph.”

  318. grandma210 // June 3, 2008 at 11:18 am

    I don’t believe she’s going to be ‘popping’ in to say anything, I don’t believe she is living. Underground, maybe. Cremated, maybe. Under water, maybe. But I believe she is deceased.
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    I’m with you Grandma210, I also believe the ISP , FBI and Police believe the same. Stacy is not in hiding, nor is she in a witness program. She is more than probably deceased:(

  319. letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 11:52 am

    cfs, thanks. At least you are understanding what I’m trying to get at.

    Its not popular, or in good taste to talk about the so-called victim, but in something as serious as this, everyone has to be looked at, and everyone surronding these people.

    They have picked apart the young lady drew was dating, they have picked apart his neighbor friend, they have picked apart his family, sons etc.

    Has anyone really had a deep, long discussion about Cassandra, Yelton, Bruce etc. No.
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    Actually, yes. And very inappropriate things stated, as well. In my opinion, anyhow. It almost borders sometimes on how the rape victim “asked for it” because she had cleavage showing. There should always be respect towards the victims. The victims are not only those that are lost and deceased…but those who loved them and are left behind. Nobody is free from skeletons in their closests. No family is free from “black sheep” and no family should have to be in pain in “not knowing” and then having to read “hypothetical assumptions” by those who do not even know them. Just my opinion.

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