Your Thread – June 4

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465 thoughts on “Your Thread – June 4

  1. They also have video of the dogs at Clow pond.

    Aw, man… don’t make me go for that link…

    Must…keep…mouth…shut…next…time…

  2. basherette // June 4, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Pssst… they had more than one dog working there….
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    This dog is with the same handler tho – and looks identical.

  3. Nope- tub was removed about 1 1/2 to 2 weeks ago now…

    Guess you don’t have to check facts anymore to be a reporter, huh?

  4. basherette // June 4, 2008 at 12:49 am

    Nope- tub was removed about 1 1/2 to 2 weeks ago now…

    Guess you don’t have to check facts anymore to be a reporter, huh?
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    And why does a Fox reporter need to get their story from the Trib? Lordy.

  5. pssst yes I’m sure they had many dogs was to lazy to type that.

    same handler but the dog barking looks lighter and like it has husky in it then the pic of the german shepard look at the black on the german shepard you don’t see that on the dog howling by the garage door it almost looks redish. maybe the light but doesn’t look like same dog to me.

  6. And scratch that- the tub was removed the week of May 18-24, cause we found out about it on May 31st.

  7. Are you crying FOWL about those doggie pics, Freedom?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Oy, I gotta stop laughing…

  8. I wonder if side-splitting laughter is one of the shitake mushroom side effects from those beaver dam antibiotics I’m on…

  9. crying boohoo can’t stop crying the doggie is not the same one boohoo I’m in the corner rescue is abusing me won’t let me have a bed.

  10. Same handler, in a pose that shows that those photos were taken probably seconds apart and from different angles. Same dog.

    K – I’m going off to bedz now. Night!

  11. Well, I ain’t no spring chicken, but I think you’ve got a point there, Iknoweverythinglol…

  12. no report of dog hit on garage only master bedroom and clow. so either way the pic of the dog at the garage door is meaningless.

    um when did I cry fowl to gatehouse, chickenthatknowseverything? (buts asks lots of questions)

    or are you refering to my jokes? geesh

  13. rescueapet // June 4, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Basherette is the boss of the corners, freedom.

    but not the boss of me!

    night you abusive controlling women!!

  14. I know a trained dog handler that said that was a definite hit on the garage door in the picture.

  15. I’m going to go and charge up for a go at it again tomorrow. Or should I say later today!

    Good night everyone. See you later!

  16. The Great Dog Discussion. IMO Same dog. But all German Sheps look alike to me.

    But … the hits from the dogs. Just because we only KNOW about the hits in the master bedroom and Clow doesn’t mean that is all there is.

    I was thinking about this last night … we have to base our opinions on what has happened on the very little information we “know” about the case. And that changes … blood evidence or no blood evidence? And how much blood? Cleaned up blood?

    And we have to deal with discrepancies between stories (e.g., most recently the tub and when it was taken). Who is to say that the information we get is accurate ever?

    I guess my daughter gets the worm, Bash. Early bird today.

  17. Bash, I finally watched the video about Mims talking about Drew going to Cushing to put the stickers on this plane. Of course, he didn’t say the times Drew went …

    But something that DREW said caught my ear: There’s been a lot of affairs discovered.

    He doesn’t say that it was STACY who had the affairs. Yes, he had been talking about Stacy previously … but IMO this is how he “states the truth” … wrapped up in another statement.

    I doubt Drew would consider an “affair” to be exchanges of flirty messages. I think he would call that seeking “male companionship” … ?

    So … why won’t Drew give his timeline to the public? He’s given it to ISP … and he is their only suspect. Hmm …

  18. Oh … one other thing about Mims in that Mike and Juliet interview … he just says that DREW went to Cushing. He does not mention the kids … and in fact, he says that he believes that Drew buried Stacy somewhere around Cushing.

    IMO there is no way he could do that with the kids in the car.

    Okay …. I’m done talking to myself.

  19. In an interview on 11/01/07 for the Sun Times:

    “Peterson said he talked “for a while” on Monday [10/29/2007] night to state police investigators searching for his wife. He said he found her purse, cell phone and even some clothing gone after she left their two-story brick home on Sunday. [10/28/2007]“

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    Catching up now on posts after I left last night.

    If this is true, how could Stacy have called Drew using her cell phone? I believe Drew said it was Stacy calling … how would he have known if she was calling from some other number?

    What cell phone did he find?

    The one that had been given to his son? Well, he wouldn’t call that “Stacy’s phone” would he? Wouldn’t it be her “old phone”?

    And Drew knew about the “new” cell phone … he paid for it … he was on the account … yada, yada, yada.

    And did he turn these items over to the police?

    Ugh.

  20. freedom08 // June 3, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    letthetruthbefree // June 3, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    What dogs can hit on, and how long after a crime they can hit on is amazing.

    very amazing! but they also do have hits that are not accurate.
    and the picture I’ve seen of the dog infront of the garage door looks like the dog was photshopped in the pic. something doesn’t look real about that picture IMO.
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    Cadaver dogs are trained on the scent of cadavers / decomposing bodies/ body fluids. I have been told if stacy was smothered, in her bed, and then removed within 30 minutes…no cadaver dog is going to make a hit on that bed or bedroom. We all know “body fluids”, skin cells, children wetting their pants, etc. are found on bed sheets everyday and especially in a home with a two year old.

    Also, keep in mind that the article you posted regarding the “carpet square test” does not contain all the necessary needed information. Such as, those bodies that were deceased for ten minutes and they picked up on the squares.

    A valuable question would be…what did the deceased die from? This is important. If they were ederly subjects, patients with diseased processes that means the bodies of those subjects were already in some form of decomposing state prior to death…by disease. This is factual knowledge due to my years of working in histopathology in the labs.

    Again, I find it near impossible if Stacy were smothered, and removed within 20 minutes or so…that a cadaver dog would have made a hit if the only remnants left behind was saliva on a pillow. (many people drool in their sleep) As for the release of bowels, that would depend on the process of her body and the last time she had a movement. Bowel release does not happen all the time with death, nor does the release of bladder if she recently went to the bathroom.

  21. We’re just having gentle rain storms today. Great for the gardens.

    Hope all is well with those of you in tornado country.

  22. This web site is not going to be used as a blog & post web site. In the near future this site is going to be used for a business venture. This has no connection to any on going news stories. Further more there will be “NO” discussion on this site about any news story!!!
    this is from ://www.richardmims.com as of this morning. what has changed his tune?

  23. feisty, maybe he has had a few death threats of his own?

    It will be interesting to see what kind of business venture it is.

    Maybe he’s selling off anything Drew touched. 😉

  24. Maybe Ric was told not to give any more info out . of what is going on// or those death threats…

  25. iknownothinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:24 am

    It’s a rooster trust me.

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    hahaha now that is funny, yeah all trust knownothing and find out how wrong you clucking hens will be!!:)

    lavanda we just disagree. from my all I have read on this subject the body upon death immediately starts releasing gases that are part of the scent of death!

    noway if you read the statement again you will see drew could not turn these over to LE as he was saying he found them gone after she left.


    He said he found her purse, cell phone and even some clothing gone after she left their two-story brick home on Sunday.

  26. lol … freedom … up too early … thanks for that!

    Found them … found them missing … oh my face is red!

  27. ah noway it’s no biggie don’t turn red, heck we all make booboo’s and I had to read it a few times before I realized what he was saying.

  28. lug according the to home tour he did with fox he has left everything of her’s right where it was before she left.

  29. Well, during the tour they were there … but they could be gone now.

    I mean it’s hard to ask someone to marry you while your missing wife’s clothes are in your closet.

    And Drew has moved on …

  30. lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 9:22 am

    lav, here is something about the dogs …
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    Yes, I do understand about the dogs, Lugnut. However, Stacy was a healthy young woman with no disease process, no decompisition, most probably no blood loss, (esp if smothered which would be the most probable choice considering she was in bed at that time as we know from her talking on the phone to Bruce earlier…and a “quiet choice” of method being that the children were in the home.) Thus a pillow over her face and compressed for two minutes to cause death would most likely not leave any DNA behind (short of saliva) nor anything “out of the ordinary” for a cadaver dog to pick up. Especially if she was soon removed.

  31. feistygurl // June 4, 2008 at 9:50 am

    lugnut maybe that stuff was in the trumpet case that went for a ride.

    could be that , he did that ….

    befor my aunt passed away she asked my uncle if he is going to find another woman and , he didn’t give an answer right away.but she new he was going to .. and he did remarry. 4yrs ago and he is 70yrs old but didn’t get rid of her clothes right away . but waited a yr and then married …

  32. lavandadolce // June 4, 2008 at 10:05 am

    lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 9:22 am

    lav, here is something about the dogs …
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    Yes, I do understand about the dogs, Lugnut. However, Stacy was a healthy young woman with no disease process, no decompisition, most probably no blood loss, (esp if smothered which would be the most probable choice considering she was in bed at that time as we know from her talking on the phone to Bruce earlier…and a “quiet choice” of method being that the children were in the home.) Thus a pillow over her face and compressed for two minutes to cause death would most likely not leave any DNA behind (short of saliva) nor anything “out of the ordinary” for a cadaver dog to pick up. Especially if she was soon removed.

    I see what your saying, but do you know that every day , you lose about 100 hairs so new ones grow and your skin flakes as well daily …. do yyou do leave things behind even if alive …

  33. Freedom, you said “lavanda we just disagree. from my all I have read on this subject the body upon death immediately starts releasing gases that are part of the scent of death! ”

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    Tis ok that we disagree 🙂 However, let me point out that the gases released by bodies “upon death” are not until there is tissue deterioration. A body doesn’t just “die” and then proceed to release gases…unless physical trauma has occured that caused breakage into the tissues…such as a car accident, motorcycle accident, etc. Those gases that you are talking about are the breakdown of the cells and tissues and organs that normally occur with everyone after death, however, they usually do not occur until a few hours after the cells are no longer “fed nutrients” (oxygen). Mainly because they are no longer fed oxygen as the body is not breathing.

    If the body is intact and lying in bed and smothered….and removed shortly thereafter….no dog is going to find it a crime scene.

  34. Lugnut, statistics show if one had a very happy marriage and their spouse passed away…they usually remarry within 3 years.

  35. LAvanda,

    yes I know that , I was just saying about the clothing that is why drew proubly did not remove stacy’s clothing yet , untill he finds another girl to replace her is what i was trying to say…

  36. I see what your saying, but do you know that every day , you lose about 100 hairs so new ones grow and your skin flakes as well daily …. do yyou do leave things behind even if alive …
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    lol. Yes. You must have missed where I worked in histopathology for a number of years as an MT. Keep in mind, skin cells, semen, urine, body hairs, pubic hairs, (sorry so graphic) saliva, menses blood, etc. are all normal things that cadaver dogs are trained to overlook. They are trained to specifically locate deceased bodies by decaying methodology. They are trained at the onset to know the difference between menses blood on a sheet…dried blood…etc. This is why they have different types of dogs for specific functions. Drug dogs, Cadaver dogs, search and rescue dogs, etc.

  37. LAvanda,

    yes I know that , I was just saying about the clothing that is why drew proubly did not remove stacy’s clothing yet , untill he finds another girl to replace her is what i was trying to say…
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    Oh no! I was referring to your Aunt who passed away. Many people get “upset” when the spouse remarry and find it as uncomfortable. Point is …when one has a happy marriage…they are more apt to remarry. As for Drew. He has always been a womanizer from the get-go…dead wives , or not. Nothing stops that man from stroking his own ego.

  38. lavonda you might find this link interesting.
    glad we can agree to disagree! 🙂

    Decomposing bodies start producing ammonia (NH3) in the lungs quite soon after death, and the ammonia diffuses outward through the nose and mouth. Ammonia is lighter than air, and it diffuses rapidly. The rate of production of ammonia decreases with time after death.
    Within a few hours, depending on weather conditions, a body starts to produce heavier amines in its tissues, e.g., putrescine (1,4-diaminobutane), and cadaverine (1,5-diaminopentane). These amines are much heavier than air, and they diffuse relatively slowly. Experiments prove that slow diffusion relates to increased resolution in image formation. The early appearance and rapid diffusion of low-molecular-weight ammonia from the nose and mouth might help explain the greater amount of image color between the nose and mouth, in the beard, and into the nearby hair. It will also diffuse through the cloth more quickly and reach the back side of the cloth in greater concentration. Ammonia will diffuse about 20 cm through air while cadaverine is diffusing only 6 cm.

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    p://www.shroudstory.com/faq/turin-shroud-faq-11.htm

  39. And I LOVE how they say a news organization described this as “greater than OJ.”

    Come on now, it wasn’t that big.

    I’m sorry, I know most of you disagree with me, but this Chief really thinks “highly” of himself, and has a HUGE ego.

  40. ..did you notice the picture of the chief on there with the children.. he looks like such a nice guy.. i can’t get over what a difference he has made in the BBPD…

    do you know when or where that picture was taken…the one with him and punch..or chip..or whoever he is… by the dress id say hes not on the field on duty or anything… wonder if it was some sort of convention..

  41. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Well it seems like all those in the BPPD love getting their pictures taken with celebrities, Chief included.

    http://www.bolingbrook.com/content/1205161496.pdf

    hehehe no let me hear all go off on the chief, star gazing while on duty, how unprofessional!! what

    Oh please, this case is bigger than OJ. what an insult to the memory of nicole and ron.

    a media whore the chief appears to be! he’s lost some of my respect
    thanks let!!

  42. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 10:23 am

    And I LOVE how they say a news organization described this as “greater than OJ.”

    Come on now, it wasn’t that big.

    I’m sorry, I know most of you disagree with me, but this Chief really thinks “highly” of himself, and has a HUGE ego.

    sad I agree huge ego!! and how disrepectful to nichole and ron.

    where did my post go about this? am I being sensored??

  43. which part am i looking further at..the file froze up on my system while trying to navigate it so i need to reload it..

    i think the chief has done some pretty great things.. the officers are very happy with him.. the citizens of BB seem to be very happy with him.. hes raised morale and kept a good hold on the crime rate.. hes made sure his department gave back to the community and obviously isnt afraid to admit when one of his own has made mistakes and hold them accountable..

    so many times we see people talking about corrupt police and departments that let their officers get away with things because they are cops… at least we can say this guy doesnt.. thats something…

  44. Lugnut, you said: “Ammonia is lighter than air, and it diffuses rapidly. The rate of production of ammonia decreases with time after death.
    Within a few hours”
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    Key words A FEW HOURS. As for ammonia, it diffuses rapidly and is a normal occurence in the human body. If one wet the bed…such as a child…ammonia gases are released.

  45. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 10:14 am

    freedom… are you saying you are a girl…

    what you don’t know??

    how bout I just be what ever your little hearts desire!! 🙂

    girl today, guy tomorrow, drew one day, jb the next, wife #5 on the weekends!!

  46. whom ever wrote that said bigger than OJ ,, I don’t think the chief said that ya know….

    ERIC estrada proubly was there for those fundraisers for those kids.. is what me thinks …

  47. i was just curious.. i didnt think you would be dishonest.. so i was confused.. which i get pretty easily.. so dont mind me.. just wasnt sure why you would say something misleading like that..

    i bet you were joking.. duh.. its a slow morning for me…

  48. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 10:23 am

    And I LOVE how they say a news organization described this as “greater than OJ.”

    Come on now, it wasn’t that big.

    I’m sorry, I know most of you disagree with me, but this Chief really thinks “highly” of himself, and has a HUGE ego.
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    Well, for one…he is not the same Chief that was around when KS died. Also, he has a very good record and from what I can see…and have read…he is a good guy.

  49. lavandadolce // June 4, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Key words A FEW HOURS. As for ammonia, it diffuses rapidly and is a normal occurence in the human body. If one wet the bed…such as a child…ammonia gases are released.

    lavandadolce // June 4, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Lugnut, you said: “Ammonia is lighter than air, and it diffuses rapidly. The rate of production of ammonia decreases with time after death.
    Within a few hours”
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    Decomposing bodies start producing ammonia (NH3) in the lungs quite soon after death

    ok lav let’s again agree to disagree. maybe we can find a study concerning strangulation, quickly removed body. I’ll look later.
    Decomposing bodies start producing ammonia (NH3) in the lungs quite soon after death

  50. Lugnut, you said “ok lav let’s again agree to disagree. maybe we can find a study concerning strangulation, quickly removed body. I’ll look later.
    Decomposing bodies start producing ammonia (NH3) in the lungs quite soon after death”

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    Yes, and cellular structures breakdown immediately as well. But keep in mind…if there was no “break into the tissues” this is not going to make much difference. The breakdown occurs in the lungs and all the organs have their own breakdowns, as well. Point is, smothering her and removing her quickly is more than likely NOT going to leave any evidence for a cadaver dog. Remember, I’m talking smothered with a pillow here. Not breaking ones neck, etc.

    Anyhow..pleasant to chat with you. Good dialogue…anyhow…have to get back to work. Take care and talk more later.

  51. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 10:35 am

    i was just curious.. i didnt think you would be dishonest.. so i was confused.. which i get pretty easily.. so dont mind me.. just wasnt sure why you would say something misleading like that..

    i bet you were joking.. duh.. its a slow morning for me…

    lol yes my post to you was joking.:)
    I’m a female don’t know why some are insisting I’m a guy or all these other people I’ve been accused of being.
    why they are soo concerned with anything more than my posts out here is beyond me! kinda freaky maybe they will find another interest.

  52. lol … it’s funny how you have in your mind what someone is like on these forums … male or female … and then when you find out the opposite, you have to rethink their image in your mind.

  53. I just googled the Chief, some interesting stuff out there.

    I’ll let you all look.

    Remember some were screaming and hollering about taxpayers dollars being spent to have pictures taken with celebrities. It goes both ways.

  54. Really … people complained about taxpayers dollars being spent to have pix taken with celebs?

    My only concern with the pic of Drew and John Travolta was that while Drew was asking John to sign an autograph, John might be shot. What protection?

    Of course, maybe that was all a publicity shot for John Travolta …?

  55. do you know when that picture was taken.. or where.. or if the chief was on duty at the time.. or if he was attending an event off of the clock on his own time..

    cause that would be interesting if the point you were trying to make with that picture and it turned out that he in fact was attending on his own dollar…and not the taxpayers..

    so do you know the situation behind the picture..or are you assuming..

  56. .. the taxdollar thing gets me.. no pictures with celebrities..no giving away bumper stickers..

    man am i glad some of these people dont sign my paycheck right..

  57. Noway, just little stuff. For instance, it seems the Chief McGury likes to talk to Fox only, local stations can’t seem to get a call back from him etc.

    Could it be because he was/is? a Republican Committeeman?

  58. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Well it seems like all those in the BPPD love getting their pictures taken with celebrities, Chief included.

    http://www.bolingbrook.com/content/1205161496.pdf

    Well, let’s see, a picture of Drew and Travolta is 1 picture and a couple pictures of officers with Estrada. What do we have? A total of 3 or 4 pictures (with celebrities)?

    Out of 150 officers?

    That seems like “all”.

    Now this part isn’t directed at LTBF, it is for everyone.

    1. Ray McGury was not brought here to do any house cleaning. He was brought here because it was felt he had proven himself not only as an outstanding cop, but an outstanding individual. Highly disciplined and motivated and very intelligent. It was thought he would make an ideal Chief – and I think he is just that.

    2. Drew Peterson is but one individual that was employed for a good number of years by the BPD. His actions DO NOT speak for the department as a whole by the longest stretch of the imagination. Heck he hasn’t even been convicted of a single thing in 30 years in LE, nor has he even shot anyone as you would think a murder guy who has carried a gun everyday for the last 30+ years would be tempted to do.

    3. For those who do not know and like to try to take this opportunity to bad mouth this department might like to know that the BPD is considered by many surrounding departments as a very, very good department. HAving lived here for 30+ years I can personally attest that the great, great majority of BPD officers are very good cops.

    Drew Peterson IS NOT, WAS NOT and NEVER WILL BE what BPD is about or stands for.

    Rave? You bet!

  59. Nah, discussing the gasses don’t make me queasy — except when I’m eating lunch at my desk, which I was today. It is a good and needed discussion, IMO. FWIW, I agree with Lavonda, but that doesn’t mean we can’t both be wrong. It sounds logical to me that if the body were moved into something and carried out of the house within minutes, there would be no scent for the dogs. Whatever gases would have escaped into the air would evaporate before they landed on anything that would retain them. I am not an expert, but it is my opinion.

  60. BB –

    Where did I ever say the whole BBPD is bad?

    Never did, and never will.

    I’m just curious why the Chief is never available to local media, like he is with Greta?

    Just curious, and I see the picture is being drawn now.

  61. http://www.bolingbrook.com/info/pdf/CoffeChief01_12_08am.pdf

    Very interesting indeed…

    bottom line for me.. morale up.. crime down.. holding his officers accountable for crime.. giving back to the community..

    dont really care how he votes.. or which news organizations he chooses to talk to..cant find the negative side.. maybe im missing something.. has he been involved in a scandal… broken a law.. hurt the community… let the department down.. i dont see it..

  62. Morning Guys! I’ve got to get to work, but was just wondering if there any ever been anything said or written about the psychiatrist that Drew said Stacy was seeing? If so, I missed it. He would be very to hear from about her mental state, so I feel sure he will be subpoenaed. Anyone know who he is or anything about him. A GP can prescribe anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds, but Drew specifically stated “we had her seeing a psychiatrist and had her on medication” in one of his interviews. Thought maybe someone local might be able to shed a little light on this. Thanks, and you all have a great day. Will try to get back on tonight maybe.

  63. BB, good for you! I am glad that you were able to speak your mind and at the same time give us information regarding the Chief and the Dept. I have nothing but respect for all officers until they show that they do not deserve that respect (and this is true of all people, in all walks of life). “One bad apple….”

  64. Advisory Board
    Raymond McGury currently serves as Chief of Police of an Illinois municipality. In 2006, the Illinois State Crime Commission named him Police Chief of the Year. This award caps a 26-year career in law enforcement that has seen Ray in responsible charge of patrol and investigative divisions, emergency communications and response planning, the development of an million dollar intelligence unit, and establishing emergency response and evacuation plans for local organizations. Ray is currently an adjunct professor at Northwestern University’s Center for Public Safety, an adjunct professor of criminal justice at the College of DuPage, and an instructor and group facilitator with the Department of Homeland Security.
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    I’m sorry … but it just seems you are grasping at straws trying to find something, anything wrong with this Chief. IMO

  65. cfs7360 // June 4, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Morning Guys! I’ve got to get to work, but was just wondering if there any ever been anything said or written about the psychiatrist that Drew said Stacy was seeing? If so, I missed it. He would be very to hear from about her mental state, so I feel sure he will be subpoenaed. Anyone know who he is or anything about him. A GP can prescribe anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds, but Drew specifically stated “we had her seeing a psychiatrist and had her on medication” in one of his interviews. Thought maybe someone local might be able to shed a little light on this. Thanks, and you all have a great day. Will try to get back on tonight maybe.
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    cfs … good question. Whoever it is, he/she has not been outed … although very likely could be one of the many unidentified people who testified before the GJ.

  66. Noway, I simply did a google search.

    I have questions I want answered just like everyone else.

    Mine just might be on a different angle, but I’m still allowed to ask, and question.

  67. Lugnut, no clue about Yelton’s release and who will be picking him up. Just hope he doesn’t make a bee line to Drew’s house.

  68. cfs7360 // June 4, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Lugnut, no clue about Yelton’s release and who will be picking him up. Just hope he doesn’t make a bee line to Drew’s house.

    OH OK, I never new stacy had a brother or what he knows , about kathleen, or stacy .. I did not know he lived behind there house KS I mean..

    what does he know of , can anyone tell me ? I musta missed all that talk about him what he knows that you musta found …. trying to keep updated on things ya know//

  69. I think the unidentified people would be the more interesting ones to talk to … who are they and why were they called?

    Let, it just seemed like you were trying badmouth the Chief. I’m sorry that I misunderstood where you were going with your comments.

    Where *are* you going? Do you want to share your angle or are you still researching?

  70. His statues still shows “In custody” as of now. I don’t know how accurate, or how often they update the website though.

  71. Yelton is not due out until today… the 4th.. which is a change from the original date.. i believe…

    Also..it has not been confirmed that he lived in a trailor behind the house at the time of Ms. Savios murder.. i believe at this point that is just speculation.. yes.. we have also heard that Mims was living there when Mrs. Peterson was murdered.. but have learned that is not true.. and then we heard someone was living in the basement.. and we found out that was not true.. so i think everyone is leery about jumping on another bandwagon when it comes to the house.. or yard guest issue..

  72. Noway, something has ate at me for awhile between Drew and the Chief.

    I remember reading once that Drew was involved in politics of some sort, (I’m looking for that information now.)

    Most, not saying all, but most Chief, or Supt of Police Departments will not come out all guns blazing like Chief did about Drew. They will saying something on the lines of, “they have been placed on admin leave, pending investigation etc”

    I want to know why the Chief has it out for Drew so badly, and what connect if any they have outside the BPPD.

  73. cfs I’ve asked the same question numerous times and no reply. It’s very important that stacy’s phys. is before the GJ and her mental state is noted.

  74. I believe a search of public records was done it yelton “peterson” was listed at drews address.
    I remember this becaue many were questioning why his last named showed up as peterson and many thought it was because he was a sex offender.

  75. I wonder if being called Yelton Peterson somehow made it OK for a sexual predator to be around the 2 older boys who were not blood family to him. Maybe that also has something to do with Stacy adopting the older boys – so scumbag could be around?

  76. What is the law on who he can and can’t be around?

    If he were to stop by Sharons and the kids were outside, would he be in violation?

  77. Iam lost to what your saying , are you guys saying YELTON is a sex offender ,? if so what did he do to a person , and do we know if he has to register as one??

  78. Yelton is a sex offender.. he was involved in a relationship with a girl who was underage.. and was convicted and is getting out of prison today…

    i do think it is strange that the chief is being questioned because he stepped up and took a stand against Mr. Peterson.. when if he hadnt some of the same people would have said that it was just another dirty cop being protected by his department..

    what we have to remember is that BBPD and ISP have all of the information we do not.. and it is both departments firm belief that Mr. Peterson murdered Mrs. Peterson… kudos to the man for showing he would not tolerate what was tolerated in the past … had the other chief done something like that back when Ms. Savio was alive she might still be.. and so would Mrs. Peterson …

  79. I’m not sure that as a “Class 2” he will be listed on sex offender website.

    If you want more information about the sex offenders from Arkansas law enforcements, write your representative because the law say serious sex offenders only, which stops all the class 2 moderate risk from being listed.

  80. lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Iam lost to what your saying , are you guys saying YELTON is a sex offender ,? if so what did he do to a person , and do we know if he has to register as one??

    Yelton is not just a sex offender. He is classified as a SEXUAL PREDATOR! (i.e. hunter).

    YES he has to register – for the rest of his natural life, and check in frequently, regardless of whether he moves or not.

    Thus are the woes when you can’t keep your hands off of little girls whose parents even tell you to stay away from them.

    He has made his own choice, he has made his own bed and now he gets to lie in it.

  81. you know.. stealing a car is about the stupidest crime someone could commit.. its a car.. not only can it be pretty easily identified.. but its rather hard to hide..

  82. In case you can’t tell, I do not believe that sex offenders of any sort should be allowed to share our air.

  83. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Is Anthony Rossetto the brother of Scott?

    hmm dk I know Kieth is his twin.
    never heard of anthony whats up with him?

  84. lol … freedom … are there only 10 men’s names used in Illinois? Don’t we already have enough males named “Anthony” involved?

  85. bbismytown // June 4, 2008 at 11:38 am

    In case you can’t tell, I do not believe that sex offenders of any sort should be allowed to share our air.

    I agree bb it’s one of the most disgusting creatures on this earth.

  86. SEXUAL PREDATOR

    CAR THIEF

    DOMESTIC BATTERY (against a woman no less!)

    Quite a waste of human genetic material.

    “Oh but he has paid his ‘debt’ to society.”

    IMO……not until he has stretched some rope!

    All of them!

  87. if we could just put together a plan that involved arranged marriages between Mr. Peterson and the sex offenders of BB we could inadvertedly get rid of them one by one…

  88. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 11:39 am

    lol … freedom … are there only 10 men’s names used in Illinois? Don’t we already have enough males named “Anthony” involved?

    hehe seems that way!!

  89. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 11:40 am

    if we could just put together a plan that involved arranged marriages between Mr. Peterson and the sex offenders of BB we could inadvertedly get rid of them one by one…
    ___________
    Better get more bathtubs.

  90. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 11:40 am

    if we could just put together a plan that involved arranged marriages between Mr. Peterson and the sex offenders of BB we could inadvertedly get rid of them one by one…

    ha only problem I think drew only likes younger women!

  91. Maybe Scott Rosetto is known in some circles as Anthony? My BIL goes by his middle name … but some people know him by his first.

  92. lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 11:43 am

    he is listed as on the national sex offerned list
    _________Then Illinois must require all Class 2 to register too . . .

  93. I wonder where one does go to find out the restrictions placed on them upon release.

    I mean the publis should have access to whether they are allowed around children or such, right? Should be available to public, right?

  94. Hmm … well, maybe not.

    I suppose the national list could require ALL sex offenders to be registered but state requirements (state list) would vary?

  95. grandma210 // June 4, 2008 at 11:45 am

    According to the Wiki, Anthony is Scott’s middle name.
    ___________
    I posted this but with the link … so it’s in never, never land for now, I guess. That’s why I was talking about Scott going by his middle name!

  96. oh darn link went to spam.
    good call noway it is his middle name.
    but seriously who sends explicts racy texts to each other that aren’t fooling around?
    we are talking about a man well into his 30’s not some 18yo.

    One theory, according to a police source, is that Stacy Peterson was romantically involved with Scott Anthony Rossetto, or his brother Keith Rosetto, both of Shorewood, Illinois, though Rosetto denies this.
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    p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Peterson

  97. BB –

    I only asked because it seemed like you had the answer…when you mentioned Stacy adopting the two older.

  98. Illinois state law prohibits registered sex offenders from residing within 500 feet of a school, day care facility, park, or playground.

    i believe that being allowed to reside with, or be around children is based on the crime.. because of Yeltons specific crime i do not believe it would be a stipulation.. he had a relationship with an underaged minor… he did not molest a 2 year old.. and while morally they may both be equally repulsive to some.. just like Mr. Petersons dating of Mrs. Peterson when she was 16/17 and he was much much older.. the two are completely different and the law views them as such..

  99. Freedom, I think this was the extent that Stacy fooled around … words, not actions. And yes, if I were married to her, I’d still consider it cheating.

    FYI, I am female. 🙂

  100. freedom from what i understand… that police source was Mr. Peterson.. kinda funny how that worked right.. according to *a* police source..ISP has clearly said they do not believe there was a relationship between the two of them.. and since they have all the emails and text messages and communications.. im going to go with them on this one..

  101. I have one in my neighborhood, but everyone is aware of him etc.

    I think it was Elgin IL that last year or the year before, made registered sex offenders hang something on their door on Halloween, so people would know a sex offender lived there.

  102. Illinois law … who must register …

    Any adult or juvenile found guilty of any of the following offenses and attempts to commit any of the following offenses:

    indecent solicitation of a child;
    sexual exploitation of a child;
    custodial sexual misconduct;
    soliciting for a juvenile prostitute;
    keeping a place of juvenile prostitution;
    patronizing a juvenile prostitute;
    juvenile pimping;
    exploitation of a child;
    child pornography;
    criminal sexual assault;
    aggravated criminal sexual assault;
    predatory criminal sexual assault of a child;
    criminal sexual abuse;
    aggravated criminal sexual abuse; and
    ritualized abuse of a child.

  103. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Freedom, I think this was the extent that Stacy fooled around … words, not actions. And yes, if I were married to her, I’d still consider it cheating.

    FYI, I am female.

    lol well I’m just not soo sure of that and that maybe why drew started following her around she was sleeping around.
    I mean seriously if these messages were from drew and some young girl I will bet all would say he was physically fooling around.
    so we have the racy text found on the old phone that the son had, most say drew must have did that.
    now we have the racy messages between her and scott were just kidding around.
    sounds like drew with all his excuses

  104. bbismytown // June 4, 2008 at 11:45 am

    I wonder where one does go to find out the restrictions placed on them upon release.

    I mean the publis should have access to whether they are allowed around children or such, right? Should be available to public, right?
    ***********************************

    I think it’s public record what their names are, where they live, and what their crimes were, but I’m not sure that their restrictions are part of public record.

    I know that as a registered sex offender you have to follow the restrictions that are set upon you (like keeping away from kids, nightclubs and alcohol in some cases) and have to make your status known when you apply for a job or an apartment. How much of that you have to do probably varies from state to state as well.

  105. I would like to see Drews phone records for the time before Stacy went missing. I bet he was phoning a chicky or two.

  106. i think that is a great idea.. about the door hanging..

    of course i also believe that all violent criminals should have to register.. if you have a history of violence, sexually or physically against another human being i think i have the right to know..

    and by that i mean.. if you have been convicted of manslaughter..murder.. involuntary manslaughter…aggrivated battery.. aggrivated assualt.. domestic violence.. etc…

    im not talking about the random bar fight though.. but crimes with victims..

  107. i agree freedom.. those text messages were wrong.. and saying that she wanted a divorce or she wasnt happy sounds just like Mr. Peterson saying the relationship was pretty much over anyway so it wasnt cheating..

    my idea of marriage and commitment obviously differ from many peoples these days…

  108. I have a neighbor thats a fireman and every Halloween he drives around to the registered sex offenders in town and watchs to make sure they dont open the door to trick or treaters.

    He has a passion for making sure people know these people are around.

  109. All we have is right now is people talking about Stacys’s messaging because she is dead. Dead at the hands of Drew. Drew will be lucky because he will not have to be murdered for his affairs to come out. They will be exposed in court and are being exposed right now.

  110. Freedom said: lol well I’m just not soo sure of that and that maybe why drew started following her around she was sleeping around.
    ___________
    But Drew denies ever having followed Stacy.

    He says he thought they had a good marriage.

    If you suspected your spouse of cheating, would you think you had a good marriage?

  111. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 11:53 am

    freedom from what i understand… that police source was Mr. Peterson.. kinda funny how that worked right.. according to *a* police source..ISP has clearly said they do not believe there was a relationship between the two of them.. and since they have all the emails and text messages and communications.. im going to go with them on this one..

    lol you really believe the media would use the suspect as a police source?
    ISP wouldn’t stretch the truth either would they.
    common sense says they were fooling around no whether they did the dirty deed or not seems like the messages stated they did!!
    no biggie I can totally understand why stacy was looking for attention from other men and I don’t think it’s a big deal but lying about it IMO is.

  112. My SIL’s neighbor … 18 year old charged with statutory rape of his girlfriend. Girlfriend tried to say it was consenual but her parents would not listen. This kid … straight A student, athlete … now doing time in prison.

    I just can’t compare him to someone who molests a 2 year old. I can’t.

  113. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Freedom said: lol well I’m just not soo sure of that and that maybe why drew started following her around she was sleeping around.
    ___________
    But Drew denies ever having followed Stacy.

    He says he thought they had a good marriage.

    If you suspected your spouse of cheating, would you think you had a good marriage?

    I think we all know drew is full of poopoo

  114. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    i agree freedom.. those text messages were wrong.. and saying that she wanted a divorce or she wasnt happy sounds just like Mr. Peterson saying the relationship was pretty much over anyway so it wasnt cheating..

    my idea of marriage and commitment obviously differ from many peoples these days…

    mine also!!

  115. Ric Mims also talked about how he (Ric) helped Drew with surveillance on Kathleen.

    He did it because he thought he was helping out a friend have to pay less alimony. But the claims made by Drew were not true … Mims said that his surveillance did not show that Kathy and the kids were spending nights at the boyfriend’s house.

    So, I think Drew did “surveil” Stacy. Mims says that Drew mentioned that he (Drew) thought Stacy was having an affair.

    So which is it … a good marriage or an affair?

    I’m guessing Drew will say he never had this conversation with Ric?

  116. well Mrs. Peterson isnt lying about it.. and the only people who know are her and him i guess.. and what ISP can come up with based on the evidence..

    i dont understand why ISP would stretch the truth about that.. you think she would be the first married woman to have an affair and still have her husband be the murderer… for cripes sake.. everyone knows she knew he killed Ms. Savio and didnt do anything..its not like her image is being protected.. weve all seen the ugly…

    Obviously you failed to see who the media was that reported the theory from the police source…so let me fill you in..

    It was Mr. Joe Hosey.. who at the time was spending the majority of his time with Mr. Peterson at his home.. and yes.. i do believe Mr. Peterson is the source of that quote.. and if you care to write Mr. Hosey and ask him, go ahead…

    “A police source, however, said investigators do not count him as a suspect in Peterson’s disappearance. Instead, the source said investigators have speculated that Peterson’s body may have been dumped near Rossetto’s home in an effort to frame him as the killer.

    A police source said Rossetto and Peterson, 23, were romantically involved, but Rossetto insisted they were not. “

  117. What blue barrel? I’m not looking for any blue barrel. Another “police source” quote made by Hosey and the source was drew.

  118. i think Brodksy gets confused on what misquotes mean.. i think he means that he prints things not the way Mr. Peterson means them.. but thats his problem to make his client either say what he means or not talk to the press.. if Mr. Peterson actually didnt say the things Mr. Hosey wrote.. there would have been a lawsuit by now.. you see how Brodsky works.. he would be all over that..

    besides that.. how many times have we heard the stuff that comes out of Mr. Petersons mouth ourselves… no need to wonder if he is capable of saying what we have read as well..

    but maybe he was talking about being misquoted about Kim.. maybe what Mr. Peterson really sais was “Yes, i am seeing her and have been since March or April.. ” and Mr. Hosey made up the stuff about “I just met her 2 weeks ago.. were not involved.. met her at a tanning salon.. she has a boyfriend… “

  119. ISP and BBPD have always been looking for a blue barrell.. always… only police officer involved not looking for a blue barrell was back in the day that Mr. Peterson had a badge…

  120. I’ve exchanged a few emails with Joe Hosey. I think this may be my favorite line.

    “In the words of Pam Bosco, “Brodsky is an idiot.” I think I quoted her right on that.”

  121. the book has been delayed until September but may come out sooner… its done.. in the process of being edited..

  122. Those damn drums are everywhere!

    But the exact one being sought, something tells me that someone picked it up somewhere and is probobly using it as a garbage can or something in their shop or garage.

    I went down to the Dresden locks and counted like 20 or 30 plastic barrels (mostly blue) floating in the water in a rather small area.

  123. facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I’ve exchanged a few emails with Joe Hosey. I think this may be my favorite line.

    “In the words of Pam Bosco, “Brodsky is an idiot.” I think I quoted her right on that.”
    ___________
    😀

  124. facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I think people who commit adultery should wear a big red “A” on their chests. j/k
    ________

    … or their foreheads – LoL!

  125. lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    BB,

    you should look for stacy there at dresden locks , some psychics say she is there somewhere..

    What do you think I was doing there? But it had nothing to do with psychics! If they are so psychic why haven’t they all pulled the lotto bumbers, gotten rich and disappeared?

    Psychics? Ha!

  126. bbismytown // June 4, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    lugnut96 // June 4, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    BB,

    you should look for stacy there at dresden locks , some psychics say she is there somewhere..

    What do you think I was doing there? But it had nothing to do with psychics! If they are so psychic why haven’t they all pulled the lotto bumbers, gotten rich and disappeared?

    Psychics? Ha

    BB, HA HA , I know you where there looken … keep on looken there yooou may find her .. yes I agree of the lotto numbers ..

    so psychics are good though , every one I have talked with , that are psychics have said she is at dresden locks … but not in water… and I did not say anything just asked where is stacy and they said dresden ….. so i believe them to a point..

  127. Noway, I would love to take a nap, but I think they would frown on that here at work! It is a beautiful day for a nap, the storms have lulled and the sun is out, gathering energy for the next round due this evening.

  128. grandma210 // June 4, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I think people who commit adultery should wear a big red “A” on their chests. j/k
    ________

    … or their foreheads – LoL!
    **************************

  129. BB here is something from those psychics wht you think???where could this be at??

    I get the image of some type of waterfall or dam of some type where evidence was thrown. That nobody would look in this place because of churning turbines below.

    also get the sense of something having be charred black

    I suspect the lockport area would be a good area to search, from above/aerial view too

    or this one ….

    Murky,muddy place with some vegetation. Dank, on the edge of a lake in shallow water OR In a SLOUGH. In mud! Difficult to see the body. South or Southeast of Bollingbrook

  130. Well I’m outta here. Y’all take care.
    Keep your eye on your children, Yelton Cales is out there somewhere!

    Creepy!

  131. Anyone know what happened to BigMs board, I heard it shutdown, something to do with annie posting his name somewhere.

  132. and keep your eyes on your wives.. because so is Mr. Peterson..

    dang.. maybe BB isnt all that safe afterall…

  133. ok, it must have been rumor I heard on the SYM board, I thought annie had asked him something abut Christie Cales and blue Island or posted his name or something. It gets confusing reading these boards and getting emails and pm’s you get crap wrong.

  134. i heard it was something about a history of sexual harassment .. i think you must be getting your stories confused…

    no matter.. the forum is still open..

    but speaking of sexual predators.. how long did Yelton serve in jail.. i cant remember.. makes me wonder how old the girl he was involved with is now…

  135. That girl is old enough not to put Yelton in jail anymore . Stacy would be happy to see that girl so old.

  136. why would Mrs. Peterson be happy to see that girl so old..

    the question is.. is she older than Mr. Petersons girlfriend.. or rather.. ex..

  137. but seriously who sends explicts racy texts to each other that aren’t fooling around?
    we are talking about a man well into his 30’s not some 18yo.
    ___________________

    From what I interpreted, Stacy and Rosetto were old friends. She somehow ran into him..or contacted him..or whatever and they began an email exchange. This does not mean they were having an affair by any means. Fact is, many women when going through a divorce who have a low self esteem may contact a male friend from the past as an esteem booster, of sorts. I’ve seen this many times with all of my friends who have divorced. Does not mean they were having an affair…also, we don’t know what the “racy messages” were. What’s racy to one may not be to another. At the same time, even if…and big IF…Stacy did have an affair…that doesn’t justify her missing status…and Drew’s involvement here.

  138. grandma210 // June 4, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I think people who commit adultery should wear a big red “A” on their chests. j/k
    _________________

    Well there are various circumstances. Thus I say that is a bit harsh. Men are known to be more apt to “cheat” then women…although I think I know more women who have cheated then men…so don’t know where those statistics come from…but seen plenty of times where spouses seperate and both have new partners…and both are legally married…so in a sense, that would be “adultery” and a big red letter A would not be justified in that case. JMHO. Anyhow………..rather see those sex offenders with a big SO on their foreheads than a red letter A on someone who cheats.

  139. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    why would Mrs. Peterson be happy to see that girl so old..

    the question is.. is she older than Mr. Petersons girlfriend.. or rather.. ex..
    ________________—

    Why do you call them Mr and Mrs Peterson? Just curious. Why not Stacy and Drew?

  140. ITA, Lavanda… in fact, when I was in high school, I was closer to male friends (not at all romantically involved) than I was to female friends. It never got romantic with my male friends and we are still friends to this day (although we don’t see each other often).

  141. Wouldn’t you be happy to know that the girl your brother has a crush on is not a child anymore?

  142. Always good to see Romanian in a post. Let’s us all know where we stand…or at least, who we are.

    😉

  143. lavanda the story I read was stacy found scotts number when looking through some old things she had and called him out of the blue.
    and within a short time were hanky panky texting.

  144. habit i guess… formality.. i have used a first name if i could not remember the exact spelling of the last name of the person being discussed.. but only a few times..

    i did not know Mrs. Peterson personally, and i did not have interaction with Mr. Peterson on a personal level.. first name basis of ‘Stacy and Drew’ seems casual.. i wasnt and am not on a casual basis..

  145. fascmiley… i was just about to say the exact same thing… too bad there is no canadian flag as an avatar.. i really like that flag…

  146. Fac I think you talk to me, yes my BF speaks a little romanian. He is from Lebanon and studied dentistry in Romania. He calls me this nic often, don’t know if I type it correctly, though..

  147. yes.. i would be.. but i would probably be more concerned by the fact that legality aside my husband was dating one and bringing her home to my children…

    i hope that Yelton Cales stays out of trouble and stays close.. Cassandra Cales will need him when they find Mrs. Peterson.

  148. Police tracked down Rossetto through phone and text messages”

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    p://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_witness_rossetto.htm
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  149. LetTTBF , are you happy to see Yelton out? It cost so much money to keep people in prison just to let htem go free in a few years. Why are the money wasted this way?

  150. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 11:29 am

    What is the law on who he can and can’t be around?

    If he were to stop by Sharons and the kids were outside, would he be in violation?
    ~~~~~~
    let, routinely, by law, under parole supervision, no unsupervised contact w/ minors/children.

  151. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 11:29 am

    What is the law on who he can and can’t be around?

    If he were to stop by Sharons and the kids were outside, would he be in violation?
    ~~~~~~
    let, routinely, by law, under parole supervision, no unsupervised contact w/ minors/children.

    I think illinoise law says cann’t be under the age of 18 to be around kids

  152. LE must have stacy’s new phone how else would they have tracked down Scott?? guess he didn’t want it coming out he and stacy were talkin dirty to each other. bet his girlfriend was pissed wonder if she left him over it.

    Police contacted Rossetto, a registered nurse from Shorewood, after finding phone records that connected him to Stacy Peterson. Rossetto’s brother dated her briefly in 2001.
    http://www.nbc5.com/news/14682388/detail.html

  153. Maybe not, but he probably will be on probation and will still need to register as a sex offender/preditor.

  154. that is a shame that happend to him, but I wonder if it was consentual btwn both of them. on what had occured, I also thought if your a first time offener that you would not have to register.. that is what I have heard ….

  155. No, he will not be on parole or probation, he will have restrictions though. I am trying to find them now.

  156. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Yelton will not be on parole, he served his whole sentence.
    ~~~~~~~
    Yes he will. He has not served 54 mos. IN CUSTODY and/or under parole supervision WITHOUT violations on the street. The time he was out on parole previously does not count as he subsequently violated that parole & was returned to custody to pick up where he left off @ the time of his release on parole. Hope this makes sense!

  157. letthetruthbefree // June 4, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    I just hope I never have to run into Yelton, he scares me.

    now now only drew is scary yelton is just misunderstood.

  158. Some of the messages were quite perverted and flirty in nature, but they were all meant in fun,” Rossetto told the Chicago Sun-Times. “(Was I) Interested in dating? No. Flirting? Yes.”

    yeah right and drew and the 22y0 weren’t physical either. geesh

  159. grandma210 // June 4, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Maybe not, but he probably will be on probation and will still need to register as a sex offender/preditor.
    ~~~~~
    grandma, probation is reserved for those persons convicted of certain crimes whose sentences are suspended and they are placed on probation. Parole supervision is what an INMATE falls under after having served a term of imprisonment ….. whether he is released on parole by the Parole Board or under Goodtime Statutes.

  160. Hey, if JB had been living in Bolingbrook instead of Wilmette he could have met Drew six years ago and maybe seen the AR with his own eyes!

    “…Among other incidents, they found several police reports over the years, including three domestic calls, one involving a SWAT team responding to Brodsky’s Wilmette home.

    According to a report of the Sept. 2, 2002, incident involving a “suicidal person,” Brodsky’s wife, Elizabeth Brodsky, told police “Joel Brodsky was in the house armed with a shotgun.”

    He had gone to his car to get a shotgun, police said. Elizabeth Brodsky “screamed at [her daughters] to get their shoes and leave now,” the report said. “Mr. Brodsky exclaimed, ‘That’s right. You leave, get out of here, now I’m going to do it right and blow my head off with this shotgun.'””

  161. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Yelton will not be on parole, he served his whole sentence.
    ~~~~~~~
    Yes he will. He has not served 54 mos. IN CUSTODY and/or under parole supervision WITHOUT violations on the street. The time he was out on parole previously does not count as he subsequently violated that parole & was returned to custody to pick up where he left off @ the time of his release on parole. Hope this makes sense!

    thanks makes lots of sense. now wonder what he did to violate parole?

  162. I know someone that was firting with a co-worker and they would email and if you had a pager put numbers in them and ya had to figure out what it says .. for the messages……. and also was very explicit in nature as well. they where both married though and nothing happend .. at all…

  163. mzinformed, Are you sure on that? His release date has been posted for along time. How would they know that unless that was the end of his sentence?

  164. freedom, in all my reading, I’ve been unable to determine what the violation was that sent him back ……… perhaps using alcohol/drugs that showed up on routine tests parolees are subject to??? However, even those types of violations are usually handled w/ sending subject to in pt treatment ……….. but, could be he tested pos. more than once…….?

  165. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    freedom, in all my reading, I’ve been unable to determine what the violation was that sent him back ……… perhaps using alcohol/drugs that showed up on routine tests parolees are subject to??? However, even those types of violations are usually handled w/ sending subject to in pt treatment ……….. but, could be he tested pos. more than once…….?

    Yes true, if they do drugs/ alchol while out on probation , and test pos they go back for violation ……

    that happend to someone I know , he was on parole for 5yrs and had to ask premission to go out of state and they denied him to leave the state … he had to wait untill he was into his 2nd term of seeing a parol officer

  166. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    freedom, in all my reading, I’ve been unable to determine what the violation was that sent him back ……… perhaps using alcohol/drugs that showed up on routine tests parolees are subject to??? However, even those types of violations are usually handled w/ sending subject to in pt treatment ……….. but, could be he tested pos. more than once…….?

    thanks, I haven’t been able to find anything either and someone claimed once he volunteered to go back to jail. I don’t believe that at all.
    drugs/alcohol is a good possibility. Seems like someone said he was a crack head, but don’t know if that’s true would not doubt it. Also don’t doubt that Cassandra and even stacy were using illegal drugs isn’t that anthony admin at fsp a big druggie and rave partier and cassandra’s good friend.
    wasn’t there something about stacy sunbathing toplees or nude at his place. don’t think that would be a violation unless the kids where there maybe.
    would be nice to know why though.

  167. “iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    mzinformed, Are you sure on that? His release date has been posted for along time. How would they know that unless that was the end of his sentence?”

    *********
    They knew because he wasn’t supposed to be here in the first place. If he was to be released in a few years, why put him in jail then? IMO once they are in, they stay in. What’s with this in/out game, huh?

  168. futatestalin // June 4, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    “iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    mzinformed, Are you sure on that? His release date has been posted for along time. How would they know that unless that was the end of his sentence?”

    *********
    They knew because he wasn’t supposed to be here in the first place. If he was to be released in a few years, why put him in jail then? IMO once they are in, they stay in. What’s with this in/out game, huh?

    THEY do that on the website when you look for find out when they are released, or going to get out ..
    WE had looked when a friend was getting out and it said release date to be 6-7-06 n 05 as well.

  169. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    mzinformed, Are you sure on that? His release date has been posted for along time. How would they know that unless that was the end of his sentence?
    ~~~~~
    That release date was the date his sentence would have been completed IF he had not violated his parole, however, having done so, he was remanded to serve a portion (I believe it is 2 for 1, i.e. goodtime) of his remaining sentence, with the remainder of THAT being served under Parole Supervision (if he can make it!) NOW, let me say, I am stating this as I know it to be in all other states …….. don’t think IL is any different …….. they have to do it this way – prison overcrowding & all, ya know!

  170. there was another thing I was going to post but cannt remmber the name of it , dam …. but it is like you serve part of your sentence and get out on furlows ,, trying to look it up..

  171. this page is so slow! I agree with something but by the time my post comes up, other posts I don’t agree with are just above my post… very confusing…

  172. futatestalin // June 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    this page is so slow! I agree with something but by the time my post comes up, other posts I don’t agree with are just above my post… very confusing…

    futatestalin ………. Post of the Day!!! LOL

  173. WILL ask my mom in law she would know . what Iam trying to say to you guys lol… but as I said yes they do that also because of over crowding , and sometimes they have to serve back to back sentences as well and no furloughs …..

  174. freedom – in my state, inmates in work release are still “in custody.” They live in “group” facilities staffed & managed by the local sheriff & overseen by the dept of corrections. They can only go to work, have to return to facility immediately, are subject to “shakedowns” rountinely & alcohol & drug tested.

  175. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    silly technicalities IKKN drew has to be arrested and convicted first.
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    Oh he will be and soon I think. What we should do is submit our best ideas for a joke for Drew to tell when he gets the handcuffs put on and then we can come up with a joke he could tell when he is convicted!!! Drew would love that idea. We could have a contest and send the best ones to Brodsky!!

  176. freedom – re: the Yelton thing and drugs ……. Cassandra, Stacy & Admin – could be, I think they all were “partakers.” Now, I highly doubt Yelton ASKED to return to prison and even if he did, unless a subject is a danger to himself or others, it is unlikely they would accommodate him!

  177. .. i dont understand.. Yelton Cales was originally scheduled out for the 16th of June… and is being released today… the 4th of June… the 16th of June has been known for a very very long time.. .there is no way they knew in advance when he would receive parole.. and there is no way he got out earlier than even his original sentence date after being forced back in.. that would mean he shortened his original sentence even with a violation…

    i believe Yelton has served the remainder of his sentence and is finished now..

    and yes there was a great rumor that Yelton Cales turned himself back in to go to jail.. the reason behind the theory was… wait for it…

    so that he wouldnt be forced to search for Stacy Peterson because he was in on it..

    of course i think the person who had this theory had about 6 personalities and came from another country.. so their thinking wasnt always clear…

  178. Well, he’s not going to Disney World … and he’s already saved money on his car insurance. So what’s left?

  179. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    freedom – in my state, inmates in work release are still “in custody.” They live in “group” facilities staffed & managed by the local sheriff & overseen by the dept of corrections. They can only go to work, have to return to facility immediately, are subject to “shakedowns” rountinely & alcohol & drug tested.

    THAT is also in NJ , it happend to my brother in law … go into trouble for not being there and calling on phone … he was going to go back to jail cause of that. but they found out it was someone else that did it and looked into it ….

    he sold pot to an undercover woman cop in a school zone… he just turned 30… but he has been out since 06… but that is true …

  180. and yes there was a great rumor that Yelton Cales turned himself back in to go to jail.. the reason behind the theory was… wait for it…

    so that he wouldnt be forced to search for Stacy Peterson because he was in on it..

    of course i think the person who had this theory had about 6 personalities and came from another country.. so their thinking wasnt always clear…
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    I know who you are talking about, she is also known as the Sybil of the boards. LOL

  181. I’ve only seen the June 4 release date. Someone had posted a guess at June 16 but said he/she could not remember for sure.

    That’s the only time I heard June 16 as the release date. And I may be wrong about what they guessed … I just remember looking for myself and seeing June 4, and thinking they were wrong about the date.

    So Yelton was into drugs and so were Cass, Admin (yet another Anthony?) and Stacy?

  182. thats all rumor .. and you have to wonder why people would say things without knowledge..

    Cassandra Cales has a medical condition which would make drug or alcohol use very difficult for her..

    Administration at FSP has stated himself that he was in to certain recreational illegal drugs…

    But to my knowledge no one has reason to assume.. accuse.. or even speculate that Mr. Peterson, Mrs. Peterson or Cassandra Cales had any involvement with illegal drugs…

    Other than Mr. Petersons police service.. of course..

  183. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    .. i dont understand.. Yelton Cales was originally scheduled out for the 16th of June… and is being released today… the 4th of June… the 16th of June has been known for a very very long time.. .there is no way they knew in advance when he would receive parole.. and there is no way he got out earlier than even his original sentence date after being forced back in.. that would mean he shortened his original sentence even with a violation…

    i believe Yelton has served the remainder of his sentence and is finished now..

    and yes there was a great rumor that Yelton Cales turned himself back in to go to jail.. the reason behind the theory was… wait for it…

    so that he wouldnt be forced to search for Stacy Peterson because he was in on it..

    of course i think the person who had this theory had about 6 personalities and came from another country.. so their thinking wasnt always clear…
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    YES they do know when he would be released, and yes they do shorten the other terms of there sentences … as others has said for good behavior but would have to do the remainder of the more seriouse sentence though… also if they work in the jail that helps them as well being a model person while staying in there .. but for the more seriouse ones they can not reduce that sentence at all. they have to serve it out . until there release date comes up …. it may be a week or 2 for the exact date he will be out…

  184. and yes there was a great rumor that Yelton Cales turned himself back in to go to jail.. the reason behind the theory was… wait for it…

    so that he wouldnt be forced to search for Stacy Peterson because he was in on it..
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    Yep. LOL. This is exactly why I haven’t been taking part in the convo today. I don’t know any of the facts beyond Yelton’s record and what it says on the correctional web site. I don’t have any knowledge of release and parole issues like some of you do, so I can’t contribute anything there.

    I did have a friend at one time who was a registered sex-offender, and I could tell you his story, but that still wouldn’t tell us anything about Yelton.

    I’m curious about Yelton, but I’m not interested in fueling speculation or rumors.

  185. mzinformed // June 4, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    freedom – re: the Yelton thing and drugs ……. Cassandra, Stacy & Admin – could be, I think they all were “partakers.” Now, I highly doubt Yelton ASKED to return to prison and even if he did, unless a subject is a danger to himself or others, it is unlikely they would accommodate him!

    yep they look like partakers! and I think that’s part of the reason the push was soo big to protray stacy as an innocent angel and stop talk of anything other than that. fsp delete delete delete.
    thanks for refreshing my memory on work release it’s the same in the state I live in.

    drew probably had to take drug tests beings he was a BBPD

  186. Oh, duh. Of course not. They were painting the house for him.

    November 6th, 2007 5:32 PM Eastern
    Stacy Peterson’s Brother: Registered Sex Offender
    by Greta Van Susteren
    I am sure you have heard….and I am not sure it is at all relevant to her disappearance, but Stacy Peterson’s brother is a registered sex offender. Sgt. Drew Peterson was quick to tell me this the first day I met him. Frankly I thought it odd that he so quickly pointed that out to me but I listened and maybe there is some relevance to her disappearance. I just have no information that his past is relevant to her disappearance. Click here for the official Illinois web page about him.

  187. i know all of that lug.. thank you.. what i mean is that when Yelton Cales went back to jail it was to serve the remainder of his setence, with release in June of this year…

    so he hasnt gotten out earlier than his original date.. and by that he has served the remainder of his sentence..

  188. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    of course i think the person who had this theory had about 6 personalities and came from another country.. so their thinking wasnt always clear…
    ***

    I agree, coming from another country and thinking not always clear is no good to look for Stacy. Yelton is coming from prison and he’ll get Stacy, I’m sure.

  189. I think FSP unlike Brodsky and Drew did not believe in bashing the victims. WoW how dare they not let you bash the victims!!!

  190. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    i know all of that lug.. thank you.. what i mean is that when Yelton Cales went back to jail it was to serve the remainder of his setence, with release in June of this year…

    so he hasnt gotten out earlier than his original date.. and by that he has served the remainder of his sentence..

    YES , TRUE..

  191. curious what you meant about Yelton Cales was serious about the money…

    Yelton Cales has yet to make a statement.. do you know something we dont… or are you assuming something on your own…

    our opinions differe.. i dont think they need Yelton Cales to find Mrs. Peterson.. i think they just need a little more time.. just a little…

  192. WELL ladys and gents I must go get some sleep .. I know it is only 12:37 here but I have to go back to work tonight till 2am but hope to catch up with you all around dinner time here.. and in the morning as well. hope to talk at you later on … 🙂 great chatting w/you

  193. Once I got lost at a gas station; the bathroom door wouldn’t open from inside. My BF wasn’t good to look for me. He thought I walked home and drove my car from the gas station , looking for me all the way to my home. I agree, from other countries no good to look for missing people.

  194. you will have to find that out on your own, it is not my place to give Cassandra Cales personal medical history.. there are a few conditions.. but one specifically would make illegal drugs and alcohol consumption almost impossible..

    However i do believe that Ms. Cales is probably taking medication for depression..anxiety… nerves.. something of that nature..

    But the accusation was illegal drug usage right.. that Mrs. Peterson, Mr. Peterson, Cassandara Cales, Yelton Cales and the Administrator of the FSP forum were all ‘into’ illegal drugs..

    who made that accusation again…

  195. “iknowwhatudont

    i dont think they need Yelton Cales to find Mrs. Peterson.. ”

    Do you know Yelton is Stacy’s brother?

  196. actually I believe the yelton went back on his own story came from someone who supposedly ask a family member.
    it wasn’t from cybill as many are claiming.

  197. oh the cybill I’m refering to is not from another country.
    the person that asked the family member and stated this posts out here once in awhile

  198. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    However i do believe that Ms. Cales is probably taking medication for depression..anxiety… nerves.. something of that nature..

    *****
    You say Miss Cales has nerves problems? I never knew it. You really know what I don’t know…

  199. I think YELTON will help in searching for stacy in any way he can..

    I have no clue as to what yelton went back on his own story??? hhh??

  200. Can you CHOOSE to go back to jail … as opposed to looking for your missing sister because you had something to do with her disappearance?

  201. yes.. i do know that Yelton Cales is Mrs. Petersons brother.. but i still do not believe that his service in finding Mrs. Peterson will be necessary.. the support yes.. but i at this point i think all they need to find Mrs. Peterson is just.. a little more time..

    and freedom.. could you find the origin please then.. i think it would be very interesting to see which family memeber said that.. right…

  202. no.. i said i belive she is probably taking medication for one of many things.. you chose nerves.. obviously because it suits your agenda to pick that one out of the list… which is fine..

    i know if my sister had been murdered i would probably need some sort of nerve or anxiety pill until the murderer was put in jail…

  203. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    I think FSP unlike Brodsky and Drew did not believe in bashing the victims. WoW how dare they not let you bash the victims!!!

    Oh grow up stating facts about players this case is not bashing.
    hiding the truth to ensure propaganda is only negative against drew is nothing but pure crap and shows a bias agenda that has nothing to do with justice.
    but then again as far as I’m consider the cales don’t really care about justice and neither did stacy by covering up kathleens death and giving him an alibi when she claims he killed her.
    it’s freakin disgusting and so is you claim!

  204. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    habit i guess… formality.. i have used a first name if i could not remember the exact spelling of the last name of the person being discussed.. but only a few times..

    i did not know Mrs. Peterson personally, and i did not have interaction with Mr. Peterson on a personal level.. first name basis of ‘Stacy and Drew’ seems casual.. i wasnt and am not on a casual basis..
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    Tis ok. Just it makes me have to stop and think as to whether your speaking of Mrs. Kathleen Peterson or Mrs. Stacy Peterson, lol….you’re just the first person I’ve ever seen in a forum addressing them on a “formal” basis.

  205. no I won’t spend my time finding the link you can look if you want it and as I stated it was a poster that claims a family member told them this information.

  206. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Some of the messages were quite perverted and flirty in nature, but they were all meant in fun,” Rossetto told the Chicago Sun-Times. “(Was I) Interested in dating? No. Flirting? Yes.”
    __________________

    Knowing that she was married, he could have been telling the truth.

  207. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    yep they look like partakers!
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    Is that like when you think someone is safe to have unprotected sex with because they “look like they don’t have AIDs”?

    That’s quite the gift.

  208. wait i think i confused myself.. i dont want anyone to think im questioning if Yelton Cales turned himself back in.. i’m questioning if the family said it was because he had a part in Mrs. Petersons disappearance…

  209. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    no I won’t spend my time finding the link you can look if you want it and as I stated it was a poster that claims a family member told them this information.

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    Rumor lol, I got caught up in one of those today about annie asking BigM something about Blue Island. I think rumors should just be left out of the discussion.

  210. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Rumor lol, I got caught up in one of those today about annie asking BigM something about Blue Island. I think rumors should just be left out of the discussion.

    most we hear is rumor and I’m not caught up in this one I don’t buy it at all!! lol

  211. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    thats all rumor .. and you have to wonder why people would say things without knowledge..

    Cassandra Cales has a medical condition which would make drug or alcohol use very difficult for her..

    Administration at FSP has stated himself that he was in to certain recreational illegal drugs…

    But to my knowledge no one has reason to assume.. accuse.. or even speculate that Mr. Peterson, Mrs. Peterson or Cassandra Cales had any involvement with illegal drugs…

    Other than Mr. Petersons police service.. of course..
    _______________________

    Ok. Bear with me. I just find this really strange. So if you call Drew and Stacy Peterson, Mr and Mrs Peterson….then why aren’t you calling Cassandra Cales….Ms. Cales? There’s just something about your posts…and name “I know what you don’t” that makes me suspect in your intentions? Don’t mistake that I’m saying it’s negative intentions….I just “feel something” here that is “odd” . Can you elaborate? Or my apologies…if I am wrong.

  212. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    wait i think i confused myself.. i dont want anyone to think im questioning if Yelton Cales turned himself back in.. i’m questioning if the family said it was because he had a part in Mrs. Petersons disappearance…

    lol time for another subject

  213. iknowwhatyoudont … you said you didn’t have a personal relationship with Drew; did you have a business relationship? Or do you currently?

  214. At the end of this news clip there’s a short interview with Cassandra. You’ll have to turn it up. Her voice is very soft. This is five days after Stacy went missing.

    This is my opinion, but when she breaks down at the end, her emotion is real. You can’t convince me that she isn’t telling the truth.

  215. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Rumor lol, I got caught up in one of those today about annie asking BigM something about Blue Island. I think rumors should just be left out of the discussion.

    most we hear is rumor and I’m not caught up in this one I don’t buy it at all!! lol
    _______________

    I agree, Freedom. There are soooooooooo many rumors and stories that it is hard keeping up. I do know one thing for sure….the ISP investigator, in his news interview, stated there was MANY misconceptions and mistakes made publicly in the press at the onset of the case…therefore…all we can really do is hypothesize and leave the rumors to be just that……..rumor’s.

  216. to me seems like iknowwhatudont wants to imply they have access to what LE knows and by using mrs/mr it sounds kinda LEish!

  217. Joel has explained that Ric Mims owes back child support and has medical bill for daughter. That is the reason for the business venture.

    I was a little confused about his comment about Ric’s “friendship” with Drew.

    He made it sound like they were never friends. “Friendship” was in quotes …

  218. no i do not have a business relationship with Mr. Peterson…

    and i have nothing but the best of intentions.. no malice or evil agenda..

    i call Ms. Savio… Ms. Savio.. because she was not a Peterson any longer to my knowlege… i call Mr. And Mrs. Peterson that i suppose because they were married.. whereas Cassandra Cales was not..

    i would really have to think about why i do that.. i hadnt actually noticed it to be honest…

  219. facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    At the end of this news clip there’s a short interview with Cassandra. You’ll have to turn it up. Her voice is very soft. This is five days after Stacy went missing.

    This is my opinion, but when she breaks down at the end, her emotion is real. You can’t convince me that she isn’t telling the truth.
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    Facs I agree with you and have you ever seen or read anything from drew where he showed any real emotion?

  220. lavandadolce // June 4, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    I agree, Freedom. There are soooooooooo many rumors and stories that it is hard keeping up. I do know one thing for sure….the ISP investigator, in his news interview, stated there was MANY misconceptions and mistakes made publicly in the press at the onset of the case…therefore…all we can really do is hypothesize and leave the rumors to be just that……..rumor’s.
    ——
    I would imagine the rumors are going to get much worse until a trial takes place and then still they will be floating around.
    When I say I heard that means just that I heard and it’s not verified and probably rumor.
    what a mess this tragedy is!! so sad

  221. Facs I agree with you and have you ever seen or read anything from drew where he showed any real emotion?
    **************************

    In fairness I have seen him break down when talking about Tina’s death and the effect it had on Stacy. I think that may have been real.

  222. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    lol … I have to stop and think who “Mr. Peterson” and “Mrs. Peterson” are …
    _______________-

    Me too. I almost can’t help feeling it’s “forced” …I guess I don’t know how to explain it w/o insulting “iknowwhatyoudontknow” but it just comes across as “forced words” under some type of “disguise”. Does that make sense? Perhaps almost like the poster is trying to “hide” behind words. Sorry…but that is how it comes across….to me , anyhow. After all that occured at FSP….one can’t help but to be somewhat suspicious…..I guess. Or maybe I am just feeling something that isn’t. Oh well. No biggie, I guess.

  223. CALES YELTON E 08/07/1979 28 Out of Custody Expiration of Sentence Illinois Department of Corrections

  224. i do not want to imply any such thing… and i have no idea why Mrs. or Mr. Peterson would imply LE of any kind.. where on earth would that come from…

    if that is how you come up with your opinions.. based on how you feel something sounds like.. and assume someone is trying to imply something.. then maybe you might rethink it.. because you are wrong.. i’m not even sure why i do it… i think maybe it boils down to the fact that i was raised to respect my elders.. and while Mrs. Peterson was not.. Mr. Peterson certainly is.. and Stacy Peterson was his wife.. she gets “Mrs” by default… and Ms. Savio gets the same.. i also refered to Mr. Hosey the same.. does that imply that i am media also…

  225. freedom, that’s the business relationship I was wondering about. Sorry, iknowwhatudont … maybe we’re all off base.

    Another topic it is!

  226. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    no i do not have a business relationship with Mr. Peterson…

    and i have nothing but the best of intentions.. no malice or evil agenda..

    i call Ms. Savio… Ms. Savio.. because she was not a Peterson any longer to my knowlege… i call Mr. And Mrs. Peterson that i suppose because they were married.. whereas Cassandra Cales was not..

    i would really have to think about why i do that.. i hadnt actually noticed it to be honest…
    _______________

    It’s ok…again, it just seems “odd” in that I’ve never seen anyone post like that before and after having so many people play “hide and seek”…well…it just comes across differently, I guess.

  227. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    I was a little confused about his comment about Ric’s “friendship” with Drew.

    He made it sound like they were never friends. “Friendship” was in quotes
    ************************************

    Joel Brodsky also called Ric a prostitute. I think he believes that Ric betrayed and used Drew, thus the friendship wasn’t a real one.

    From Mims point of view, he was lied to and used by Drew (surveillence, errands, etc.). I bet he doesn’t think so highly of the friendship any more either.

  228. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    susan smith look sincere also!
    *********************

    Do you think so? I never believed that fraud.

  229. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    i do not want to imply any such thing… and i have no idea why Mrs. or Mr. Peterson would imply LE of any kind.. where on earth would that come from…

    if that is how you come up with your opinions.. based on how you feel something sounds like.. and assume someone is trying to imply something.. then maybe you might rethink it.. because you are wrong.. i’m not even sure why i do it… i think maybe it boils down to the fact that i was raised to respect my elders.. and while Mrs. Peterson was not.. Mr. Peterson certainly is.. and Stacy Peterson was his wife.. she gets “Mrs” by default… and Ms. Savio gets the same.. i also refered to Mr. Hosey the same.. does that imply that i am media also…
    _____________________

    My apologies if I upset you. I didn’t intend to. I just found it “odd”. Not that you’re odd…oh me oh my…….do you know what I mean? It takes a lot more typing to type Mrs. Peterson as opposed to Stacy and since you’re not addressing the person IN PERSON I would just think the easiest way is to say Stacy. Heck, I get tired of typing Drew and that is only four letters and sometimes just type DP. I didn’t mean to sound so critical or suspicious….I was just conveying thoughts out loud…and probably shouldn’t have. My apologies.

  230. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    i do not want to imply any such thing… and i have no idea why Mrs. or Mr. Peterson would imply LE of any kind.. where on earth would that come from…

    if that is how you come up with your opinions.. based on how you feel something sounds like.. and assume someone is trying to imply something.. then maybe you might rethink it.. because you are wrong.. i’m not even sure why i do it… i think maybe it boils down to the fact that i was raised to respect my elders.. and while Mrs. Peterson was not.. Mr. Peterson certainly is.. and Stacy Peterson was his wife.. she gets “Mrs” by default… and Ms. Savio gets the same.. i also refered to Mr. Hosey the same.. does that imply that i am media also…

    how many times have you stated out here you KNOW things us little pisson’s don’t know??? how many times have you stated you know when an arrest is going to take place and on and on.

  231. 2xredrum // June 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    CALES YELTON E 08/07/1979 28 Out of Custody Expiration of Sentence Illinois Department of Corrections

    yeltons first time in the pokey??

  232. i would never mean to call anyone that.. i have also said as many times that there is alot i dont know.. i ask questions all the time..if i were LE i woudlnt have to ask questions..and i wouldnt even be here.. right..

    and i still dont understand how that implies LE.. or calling them Mr. And Mrs. Peterson does either..

  233. 2x … you are a man/woman of few words but I need pictures if you’re going to be cryptic. Please. 🙂

  234. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    i would never mean to call anyone that.. i have also said as many times that there is alot i dont know.. i ask questions all the time..if i were LE i woudlnt have to ask questions..and i wouldnt even be here.. right..

    and i still dont understand how that implies LE.. or calling them Mr. And Mrs. Peterson does either..

    drop it if you can’t understand how myself and others took you coming out here acting like you know things we don’t and that only LE would know and how the mr/mrs wording is typical of how LE would state things then just chalk it up as a missunderstanding!

  235. facsmiley // June 4, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    susan smith look sincere also!
    *********************

    Do you think so? I never believed that fraud.

    I think the most in this country initially thought so!!

  236. i dont think anyone else said anything about except you did they…

    fine.. its a misunderstanding.. and ill start refering to people on a first name basis so i dont get accused of being their doctor next..

  237. Thanks 2x … my post went before I saw the candyrose post.

    Well, facs, I have no sympathy for *anyone* who has avoided paying child support. And I wasn’t sure what “friendship” meant … so I addressed the one thing that I understood. 🙂

  238. It was an easy misunderstanding … we’re always saying LE knows things we don’t … so to see someone with the nic “iknowwhatudont” made me think he/she was LE.

    Is this running slow for anyone else?

  239. ..not paying child support is one of the most disgusting things someone can do… it doesnt matter the situation.. it doesnt matter the excuse.. that child is your responsibility…

    at least IMO… i just dont understand how someone could not provide for a child they were half responsible for creating..

    reminds me of people who starve their pets or dont give them water..

  240. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    i dont think anyone else said anything about except you did they…

    fine.. its a misunderstanding.. and ill start refering to people on a first name basis so i dont get accused of being their doctor next..

    refer to them as you wish just don’t get your panties in a wad! 🙂

  241. ahhh i get what you are saying.. sorry about that.. really i am.. and i will try to be more careful not to cause people to think such things… whew. .. its easy to see how so many rumors get started.. im glad you asked me though.. theres one that is cleared up..

    yes.. this is running terribly slow for me..

  242. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    i dont think anyone else said anything about except you did they…

    fine.. its a misunderstanding.. and ill start refering to people on a first name basis so i dont get accused of being their doctor next..
    *****************************

    Or their high school social studies teacher. Didn’t everyone have that teacher who called everyone Mr. or Miss something?

    I do love that all the sales associates at Filene’s basement are Mr. or Miss.

  243. actually ikwyd you refering to them as mrs/mr helps me from confusing you with iknoweverythinglol.

    those nics are too close just like all the xtruthxx nics out here.

  244. i did not know someone had that name or i would not have chosen this one.. i do not want us to be confused.. i feel like we are some sort of internet twins and might have mistaken identity problems..

  245. freedom … thank you … she is adorable if I do say so myself. Her eyes are actually green with flecks of brown but they sure look brown in the avatar … but not in the original. 🙂

  246. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 11:02 am

    http://www.bolingbrook.com/info/pdf/CoffeChief01_12_08am.pdf

    Very interesting indeed…

    bottom line for me.. morale up.. crime down.. holding his officers accountable for crime.. giving back to the community..

    dont really care how he votes.. or which news organizations he chooses to talk to..cant find the negative side.. maybe im missing something.. has he been involved in a scandal… broken a law.. hurt the community… let the department down.. i dont see it..

    ****************************

    I like that! In reminds me of one of our most successful and beloved city councilmen, who spent a few hours every Saturday morning at a small local mall, sitting on a bench having a cup of coffee, and available to speak with any citizen who might have a suggestion or a complaint.

  247. “iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    wait i think i confused myself.. i dont want anyone to think im questioning if Yelton Cales turned himself back in.. i’m questioning if the family said it was because he had a part in Mrs. Petersons disappearance…”

    You don’t believe the family?

  248. At least I’m no longer being confused with fascinatingtermsofendearment anymore, or fugazi or futat…oh never mind.

  249. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    freedom … thank you … she is adorable if I do say so myself. Her eyes are actually green with flecks of brown but they sure look brown in the avatar … but not in the original.

    your little angel!! kinda like hazel?? love them sometimes they look green and sometimes they look brown.

  250. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    actually ikwyd you refering to them as mrs/mr helps me from confusing you with iknoweverythinglol.

    those nics are too close just like all the xtruthxx nics out here.

    %%%%%%%%%

    This is the reason I have my unusual nic. Looks a little like facsmiley though…

  251. i do not believe the family said Yelton turned himself in to avoid searching for Mrs. Peterson.. for Stacy Peterson.. i believe that they said he turned himself in to serve out his sentence..

    just like i do not believe he is out on parole or probabation.. Yelton Cales has served his entire sentence and is done..

  252. yes, freedom … hazel … but sometimes when I say hazel people say that hazel is blue/brown … lol!

    I have the same color eyes … whatever they are!

  253. so why did he turn himself in???? that makes no sense along with alot of other things the family claims.

  254. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    yes, freedom … hazel … but sometimes when I say hazel people say that hazel is blue/brown … lol!

    I have the same color eyes … whatever they are!

    hazel can have some blue and even yellow it in but mostly green/brown is hazel. maybe it depends on what part of the country you live in what hazel means!!
    lol

  255. i believe they gave the reason when they made the statement.. you’d have to go back and look at it..

    but that lady with the 6 personalities i think it was claimed it was so he didnt have to search for Stacy Peterson.. who was of course not missing at the time..

    maybe he should buy a lottery ticket..

  256. iknowwhatudont // June 4, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    ..not paying child support is one of the most disgusting things someone can do… it doesnt matter the situation.. it doesnt matter the excuse.. that child is your responsibility…

    $$$$$$$$$$
    I agree!
    My neighbor has child support from three guys. She’s having such a wonderful life!

  257. lol … I missed the posts from the person claiming it was so he wouldn’t have to search for Stacy.

  258. there was no arrest.. Yelton willingly and of his own choice made the decision to serve out the remainder of his sentence in custody versus this parole option… for the explanation of why i would refer back to the statmenet made by the family member who originally released the information..

  259. So why are we trashing Yelton? He is just a victim of Drews.

    Oh that is right, we have to trash all the victims of Drew.

  260. iknowlol … we’re not trashing Yelton. We’re talking about him.

    And how is Yelton a victim of Drew’s?

  261. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    So why are we trashing Yelton? He is just a victim of Drews.

    Oh that is right, we have to trash all the victims of Drew.

    victim of drew?? get real!! you probably should just not read any comment that doesn’t only trash drew it really seems to take an emotional toll on you to have to see the truth being posted about the convicted sex offender called yelton.

  262. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    iknowlol … we’re not trashing Yelton. We’re talking about him.

    And how is Yelton a victim of Drew’s?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Noway, you got to be kiddin me right?

  263. You speak here about people i don’t know. I wish I knew all the people you know.
    Is like when you are a personality everybody knows you and you know everybody.

  264. freedom08 // June 4, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    So why are we trashing Yelton? He is just a victim of Drews.

    Oh that is right, we have to trash all the victims of Drew.

    victim of drew?? get real!! you probably should just not read any comment that doesn’t only trash drew it really seems to take an emotional toll on you to have to see the truth being posted about the convicted sex offender called yelton.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I don’t know yelton, so trash away it does not hurt my feelings at all.

    I understand Brodsky trashing the victims of Drew, I just don’t understand why it is being done here.

  265. OK – I posted a very funny message about the new article at LegalPub about dismissing the weapons charge, but I guess I got Spam-blocked.

    It was about the disclaimer that the article was intended for LEGAL SCHOLARS ONLY. I won’t repeat myself since it might show up at some point so…here’s the URL. You can add the

    http://

    legalpublication.blogspot.com/2008/06/should-drew-peterson-move-to-dismiss.html

  266. I agree. Yelton is the victim of people that don’t wanna let him search for his missin’ sister; You think Drew scared Yelton into not looking fo Stacy?

  267. I’m not kidding … I just don’t see Yelton as a victim of Drew’s?

    If you mean because you believe Drew killed his sister, then say so.

    I don’t read minds. But do have to run out …

  268. IMO LegalPub is a schill for Brodsky (remember he first referred to him as an ‘excellent’ lawyer, revealing his bias).

    Once again, that article is Brodsky trolling the net for info. He finally realized that the info from the few souls willing to play with him at SYM was not going to be useful, and now he’s asking for the free advice of his colleagues.

    If he’s such an excellent lawyer why doesn’t he go ahead and move to dismiss the weapons charges, instead of feeling it out on the Internet first?

  269. Drew is jealous of Yelton because Yelton job let him get a 14 year old while Drew’s job set the limit to 17.

  270. we affirm the Hearing Board’s findings of fact and findings as to the misconduct charged and recommend that Respondent-Appellee, Joel Alan Brodsky, be suspended for three months.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Leonard F. Amari
    James E. Caldwell
    Kevin M. Forde

    Dated: 21 August 2003

  271. futatestalin // June 4, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Drew knows that Yelton will find Stacy and he doesn’t want Yelton to collect the reward.
    _____________
    How does Drew know this?

  272. futatestalin i am glad your friend has responsible people to coparent with.. not everyone takes financial care of their children or helps their exes at all.. i have even heard of men and women selling homes and leaving trying to leave with all the money and not taking care of their responsibilities..

  273. Fut’s friend is indeed lucky. Three children from three fathers and all are owning up to their financial responsibility for their children. What a rare and wonderful thing.

  274. good thread over at legal pub and I see why it’s for legal scholars only.
    I also don’t think legal pub is a shill for JB it’s a place where legal professionals discuss many cases and the site existed way before this case came about.

  275. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    facs, Legal Pub did change “excellent” to “creative” in regard to Joel.
    **********************

    You are right. I overlooked that editing decision. Thanks.

  276. facs, it’s okay. Apparently a lot of us missed it … until someone posted about the change. 😉

  277. You know I have been wondering if Roy’s cavalier attitude with handleing the barrels he finds has anything to do with maybe the police have found the barrel?

  278. and if Morphey was with drew when cassandra called the Morphey can back up what drew said on the phone call.

  279. IKETL – I believe the issue regarding the handling of the barrels has something to do with them being ones that have repeatedly been called about by the public to LE, and have been previously marked and noted.

    One of the reasons for picking up the barrels is to eliminate the repeated calls concerning certain barrels, along with cleaning up the environment. The barrels are squashed, money is paid for them, and it’s place back in the fund to search for missing Stacy Peterson.

    Hope that helps.

  280. My neighbor she’s lucky or smart I can’t tell; all i know she’s beautiful. She takes great care of herself. Eating healty and at 9 everyone in her house is in bed. Those guys, are crazy about her; they’ll do anything for her.

  281. Well, Roy was still looking in the barrels as if he were looking for something … but in a way that made me nervous for any evidence that would be inside or any danger posed to Roy.

  282. I bet the reason Drew needed Morphey to help was they had to carry the barrel to the river where he dumped her. Couldn’t park right next to it.

  283. iknow … TM didn’t say anything about carrying thet barrel to the river. He carried it to the Denali.

  284. and that would explain why drew was out of breath when cass called, they had just carried it to the river.

  285. Drew with another woman might explain why he was out of breath too … I don’t think out of breath automatically translates into was getting rid of his wife’s body …

  286. Well I don’t know anything that is not already out there. I am in a chat right now with a friend from the area and we brainstorming it.

  287. I don’t think it’s the police searching the water … it’s FSP.

    Until they find something substantial, ISP will not be back to whatever water Roy was in …

    Oh … you’re brainstorming. I thought you were stating as fact. My mistake.

  288. Where did the donut shop story come from? Who said Morphey said all the stuff about the phone calls and stuff?

  289. Rescue, here is another thing, If drew was in Rosettos area when he answered Cassandras call he could always say he was up there hunting for Stacy. If the cops checked the phone and tower records.

  290. iknoweverythinglol // June 4, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Morphey did.

    #####

    WAW! You know that Morphey said Stacy Ann is in the water.
    So that’s why Roy bought a boat!
    It all makes sense now. Why ISP is not reading the newpapers? They would know too Stacy Ann is in the water.

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