Your Thread – June 27

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403 thoughts on “Your Thread – June 27

  1. lol noway mines faster.

    guess gate is going to ignore my posts again.
    And no I will not click the email link and send an email with more of my personal info.
    it’s better to be safe than sorry time for me out here now!!
    night all non trolls!

  2. According to Avvo, no alerts or concerns and “42 years since Robert Alan Novelle was first licensed to practice law in Illinois.”

    That’s all I got.

  3. I did a google and an article came up by Hosey that refers to him, and he’s the one that is responsible for getting the testimony delayed that was supposed to be done in March.

  4. facsmiley // June 26, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    According to Avvo, no alerts or concerns and “42 years since Robert Alan Novelle was first licensed to practice law in Illinois.”

    That’s all I got.

    It would not surprise me if a few more new lawyer names start popping up concerning drew.

  5. hey sher
    yes those poor kids it’s heartbreaking and I’m pretty amazed at the boys performance in school from what I have heard they are doing awesome in school.

  6. I feel sorry for the kids too, but I think they’re father is a whole lot scarier and detrimental that the GJ.

  7. An article about Robert Novelle.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0507070268jul07,1,4275902.story

    Ex-city foreman gets year in prison
    Official took bribes in Hired Truck case
    By Rudolph Bush | Tribune staff reporter
    July 7, 2005
    A one-time foreman for the Chicago Department of Transportation was sentenced Wednesday to a year in federal prison for accepting bribes to falsify work reports of a city truck driver whose vehicle sat idle.

    Dennis Natale, 50, pleaded guilty in May to mail fraud and bribery for his role in the Hired Truck scandal. Natale said that while he was running a city asphalt crew, he took about $100 a day to alter the work reports of driver Timothy Shrader.

    Because of the false reports, Shrader was paid $50 an hour while his truck sat idle and, on one occasion, when he was vacationing in Europe.

    Shrader has cooperated with federal investigators and pleaded guilty earlier this year to paying bribes.

    Under their sentences, Shrader and Natale must pay a total of $19,600 in restitution to the city.

    Assistant U.S. Atty. Manish Shah said Natale got between $3,000 and $5,000 in exchange for falsifying the work reports.

    Natale “sold out the city for $100 a day. That’s how little regard he had for the city,” Shah said.

    Natale’s attorney, Robert Novelle Sr., had said the amount was closer to $1,800 but acknowledged the higher amount in court Wednesday.

    Novelle requested that U.S. District Judge William Hibbler sentence Natale to home confinement or a staggered prison sentence so he could continue to support his family.

    “This family is not a wealthy family. This is not a family that has been living on the public trough,” he said.

    Natale’s family is deep in debt and is borrowing about $2,000 a month to pay the bills, Novelle said. They are in danger of losing their $300,000 Chicago home because Natale isn’t working.

    The city dismissed Natale, and a construction firm he was working for fired him after his name hit the newspapers, Novelle said.

    “I’m asking how he may serve this time that is required and still be able to hold together his family,” Novelle said.

    With his wife and other family members in court, Natale made a brief apology for his actions and asked for leniency.

    “If I go to jail, I’ll lose everything,” he told Hibbler.

    Novelle said the construction firm that fired Natale had agreed to rehire him if he were allowed to work during his sentence.

    Natale and his family quickly left the courthouse after the hearing and did not comment.

    Natale was ordered to surrender to authorities Sept. 6 for imprisonment.

    ———-

    rrbush@tribune.com

  8. rescueapet // June 26, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Wonder who this Novelle attorney is? First time I hard his name mentioned.
    +++++++++++++++
    Where did you see this? is this the boys’ attorney? Didn’t catch the name in the article on yesterady’s thread since I kinda just breezed through it. Will go back and read it again. Just loads so slow.

  9. OMG, I know of this atty. I think he represented my friend’s brothers, also a City asphalt foreman. He went to prison for a year too.

  10. More Novelle:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson_05_apr05-copy,1,4468252.story

    Stephen Peterson to appear before disciplinary committee
    Oak Brook officer wore police uniform, drove squad car to grand jury
    appearance

    By Erika Slife and Matthew Walberg | Tribune reporters
    10:13 PM CDT, April 4, 2008

    Stephen Peterson, an Oak Brook police officer and son of Drew
    Peterson, faces disciplinary action next week for driving his police
    car and wearing his uniform to an appearance before a Will County
    grand jury investigating the disappearance of his father’s wife and
    the death of an ex-wife.

    Oak Brook Police Chief Thomas Sheahan confirmed Friday that Peterson
    will appear before the Oak Brook Board of Fire and Police
    Commissioners on Wednesday for “using the department vehicle when he
    went to court in Will County.” He declined to comment further.

    Peterson, 28, arrived in uniform Dec. 13 at the Will County Court
    Building Annex, where the grand jury is meeting to investigate the
    Oct. 28 disappearance of Stacy Peterson, who was 23 at the time, and
    the 2004 drowning of Kathleen Savio, who was found dead in a dry
    bathtub in her Bolingbrook home. After about three hours, Peterson
    left the building in his marked squad car.

    “He was under subpoena going to a grand jury inquest, and he was on
    duty,” said Drew Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant. “He
    took his squad car with his boss’ knowledge, and now he’s going for
    disciplinary action. How ridiculous is that?”

    Stephen Peterson could not be reached for comment.

    Drew Peterson, 54, is a suspect in his wife’s disappearance. In
    February, Will County State’s Atty. James Glasgow called Savio’s
    drowning a homicide after the results of a second autopsy were
    returned.

    Drew Peterson denies wrongdoing in either case. He has not been named
    a suspect in Savio’s death, and has not been charged in either case.

    Meanwhile, a Will County judge said Friday he will hear arguments in
    late April on whether Peterson’s teenage sons will be required to
    testify before the grand jury.

    Judge Richard Schoenstedt granted a request by both the state’s
    attorney’s office and attorneys for Peterson’s 13- and 15-year-old
    sons seeking a hearing April 29.

    Assistant State’s Atty. John Connor never mentioned the names of the
    boys or the subject of the subpoena in court, but a source familiar
    with the case said the hearing concerned Peterson’s sons.

    Attorney Robert Novelle Sr. had filed a motion seeking to quash a
    grand jury subpoena for the boys’ testimony. Connor said his office
    has filed a response to the motion.

    Authorities interviewed both sons at the Will County Children’s
    Advocacy Center in November, but neither has appeared before the
    special grand jury.

    eslife @tribune.com

    mwalberg @tribune.com

    Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune

  11. Who the heck is “Ashley”, and what does she have to do with these cases? I think I must have missed reading a few posts…

  12. Bash – didn’t you see the new blog that “Ashley” is going to be doing? She’s been involved with DP, emails and a web cam?

    Let me get the link for you. You’re going to love this!

  13. Hey Bash. Ashley has a webcam with Drew on it. May be a hoax, may not. There wasclink posted on yesterday’s thread by Methodical, I believe was their name. Supposedly Drew is scouting for babes on the internet and having chats and “stuff.”

  14. Wow all I have to do is go to work and crap happens while I’m gone. Guess the “quiet time” is over for a while, huh? So Ol’ dp has a web cam, and he is using it to find dates?I swear, what a piece of work he is!
    I hope the kids can relax some after testifying, Just the oldest one testified today, and the younger one may be next week? Is that right?

  15. I have no idea how to even begin to comment on this “Ashley’s” blog. For once, I am bereft of words…

  16. I’ve only briefly checked out the “Ashley” blog, but I suspect this will be major, and that Ashley may end up being called to testify before the grand jury before this is all over.

  17. I’d be interested in his yahoo dating activities before Stacy disappeared.

    Oh, one dumb SOB is back. 🙂 Me.

  18. Noway! Please don’t be talking about my friend that way! You are not dumb and I don’t believe that you are an SOB….

    … but I am glad that you are back!

  19. cfs7360 // June 26, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    And poof, he/she is gone! Freedom, you were right.

    sher69 // June 26, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    Is the dumb SOB gone? LOL!!!
    _____________________
    Grandma210, this is why I said that. I didn’t know who they were talking about … but on the off chance it was me … 😀

  20. Drew was quoted as saying he was sure Kris would testify, but did not know when. Just wondered when the subpoena was issued for Thomas, and apparently was kept quiet, if one might not have also been issused for Kris’ appearance as well and Drew is trying to protect him from media bombardment on whatever date he’s supposed to appear. Can’t really blame him if he is.

    Someone posted earlier that if they had already been questioned at the Child’s Advocacy Center on tape, that the GJ would not need to question them again. Personally, I think given the amount of time since the first interview, it might be significant to the the GJ to compare the latter to the first to see if there are any discrepancies, although I really hate these boys are having to go through this at all.

  21. Morning guys. Freedom was trying to make someone disappear with magic last night. Gatehouse took care of it for her. That’s what I was referring to. Got a little hairy for awhile on here. Sorry y’all missed it, but you probably aren’t, lol.

  22. Oh, my sweet L*rd…

    When will the bloody personal attacks here, and elsewhere, finally cease?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    It requires so much emotional and physical strength to hate, and I do not have and am not willing to put forth the wherewithal required to deal with direct or indirect attacks by trollish enterprises accordingly, much less triumphantly…

    For goodness sake- WHY is it so bloody hard to have an intelligent intercourse here?

    Is the ONLY choice amongst the members here and elsewhere to be on one bloody side or the other???

    If so, I’m done.

  23. Interesting thing I found … aka “stole” from another site …

    http://www.ejury.com/

    eJury has revolutionized the way attorneys prepare for trial. Our online Mock Juries and Focus Groups allow large groups of people to help attorneys determine case value, develop case themes, find the facts to emphasize, and learn “public” attitudes. The results are a tangible, persuasive tool used to promote settlement or prepare for trial.
    You too can sign up to be an ejuror.

  24. Since Joel starting posting publicly, I have always believed that he was doing it to help in his defense of Drew, even though I did not comprehend the logic behind it . The hardest part for me to understand was when he would put incorrect information out there, so I asked him if he was doing it because he really didn’t know the details of what he was posting, or if he was doing it intentionally to get arguments from the posters who knew he was posting incorrect information. Since he never answered me, I was left to believe he just plain didn’t know what the heck he was talking about, and needed to go back and check the details before he posted stuff to keep from looking so incompetent. Some of us (me included) probably were very helpful in saving him research time by posting links, etc to counterpoint his erroneous posts, IF that was intention to begin with.

  25. I’m sure there was more to Joel’s postings than what he said … can’t remember the exact words as to why he was blogging.

  26. morning all!!
    bash yes it’s getting to where it not even worth trying to have a discussion, don’t waste your energy on this bs you need it for other things.

    How long have I been saying that JB is using the internet as a free resources for his case!! And everyone lapped it up!!
    I just said yesterday agian that JB is not going to show his hand to the public and when it comes to court time I’m guessing again it won’t look like the same JB that posts on bigm’s.
    TGIF!!

  27. Yes I also think jb has been using the internet as a research tool for his case. I don’t think it will help though, because his client has made a mess with all of his interviews and headlines.

  28. Freedom, IMO you were absolutely right.

    Joel found out what questions were important to us … skipped those that he didn’t want to answer (why?) and gave spin-filled answers to the others.

    And then he had questions of his own … so he knew how to counter any disagreements on those.

    He’s not as dumb as he looks. 😉

  29. Hey Freedom. You may be right about Mr. Brodsky, but he’s shown more than his hand 😀 in public to me. Although, I’m sure he would appreciate your opinion. He may be the lead chair if this thing goes to trial, but I bet the other attorneys on board will be the brains behind the defense. JMO.

  30. noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 11:04 am

    I’m sure there was more to Joel’s postings than what he said … can’t remember the exact words as to why he was blogging.
    +++++++++++++
    Because he said he received an email to “check out that board.”

  31. This was Joel’s explanaation for why he was posting on the Internet:

    “Nothing more than personal enjoyment and seeing how people react, think and discuss when the get both sides of the story. Up to now the internet discussion has been dominated by the fsp posters, but you guys are lucky because the moderator here won’t allow them to overwhelm this board with their juvenille antics.”

  32. noway I have a feeling he’s not as dumb as he looks and acts!!
    cfs yes ofcourse he will bring in a big gun experienced with murder trials unless he really is a dummy but I don’t think so! He’s never tried a murder trial from what I understand.

  33. CFS is correct – this is what he said when he first signed up at SYM:

    “I was sent an e-mail to check out your board. It seems very fair minded. However, I fear that if I start posting I will attract the FSP fourm posters who will overwhelm this board with their unthinking comments. They stalk the internet and did this on another board I did some posting on. Lets see what happens.

    Joel A. Brodsky”

  34. facsmiley // June 27, 2008 at 11:20 am

    This was Joel’s explanaation for why he was posting on the Internet:

    “Nothing more than personal enjoyment and seeing how people react, think and discuss when the get both sides of the story. Up to now the internet discussion has been dominated by the fsp posters, but you guys are lucky because the moderator here won’t allow them to overwhelm this board with their juvenille antics.”

    hehe and there you have it!! looking for reactions and boy have there been some!!

  35. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 11:22 am

    noway I have a feeling he’s not as dumb as he looks and acts!!
    cfs yes ofcourse he will bring in a big gun experienced with murder trials unless he really is a dummy but I don’t think so! He’s never tried a murder trial from what I understand.
    **********************
    Yet, he’s stated that he will be “first chair(?)” if the case goes to trial. Some people assumed he would let Abood do it, but he appears to want to be in the limelight.

  36. Hasn’t he been a defense atty for a bout 12 year? Do we know for sure that he’s never taken a murder case? I’ll bet we could find out…

  37. http://www.nbc5.com/news/16725185/detail.html

    Peterson Rips Officials For Putting Son Before Grand Jury

    POSTED: 5:57 am CDT June 27, 2008

    CHICAGO — Drew Peterson criticized authorities for calling his 15-year-old son before the grand jury investigating the October disappearance of Peterson’s fourth wife and the 2004 death of his third wife.

    Peterson’s 15-year-old son, a high school sophomore, spent more than four hours testifying Thursday, said Drew Peterson, who contended authorities broke an earlier pledge not to call his two teenage sons in front of the Will County grand jury.

    The teen and his 13-year-old brother already have been interviewed at the Will County Child Advocacy Center. Peterson said he agreed to allow those interviews after investigators told him they wouldn’t call the teens before the grand jury.

    “It pissed me off that they told me one thing and did something else,” Drew Peterson said, adding that his son appeared to handle his grand jury appearance in stride.

    “He’s a smart kid. I don’t think it traumatized him too much,” Peterson said.

    Peterson, 54, has been named a suspect in the Oct. 28 disappearance of his wife, Stacy. Police also are reviewing the 2004 drowning death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, which initially was ruled an accident but has since been reclassified as a murder. Savio is the mother of Peterson’s two sons.

    While declining to comment on grad jury proceedings, a spokesman for Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow said investigators “are under no obligation to conduct an investigation in a way Mr. Peterson sees fit.”

    — Sun-Times

  38. Well, there were some former FSP members there, but they are here also. I was not an FSP poster, and when I was at SYM, I didn’t see anyone overwhelming the board with juvenile antics. However, I did see a lot of very biased and vulgar criticism of Stacy, Stacy’s family, Sharon, and FSP in general, plus a remendous amount of “support” for Drew. Some people may enjoy that type of atmosphere, and that’s fine. However, it isn’t for everyone, and not every board is, including this one.

  39. CFS – I think Joel was referring to the comments that followed his interview on the LegalPub Blog. A lot of it was pure bashing so…to his mind that meant “FSP posters”.
    I think I’ve seen some of the most hateful posts on Gretawire so they could have very well been “Gretawire posters” but Drew and Joel lump every negative comment into the FSP basket.

  40. Those investigators were LE, not the GJ. Wonder how could Drew think one would have anything to do with the other? I doubt LE could prevent the GJ from calling whomever they deemed pertinent to this case. Could they?

  41. facsmiley // June 27, 2008 at 11:40 am

    CFS – I think Joel was referring to the comments that followed his interview on the LegalPub Blog. A lot of it was pure bashing so…to his mind that meant “FSP posters”.
    I think I’ve seen some of the most hateful posts on Gretawire so they could have very well been “Gretawire posters” but Drew and Joel lump every negative comment into the FSP basket.
    +++++++++++++
    I think you’re right, and so do a lot of other people.

  42. It’s funny to me because I want justice and facts and also look at more than drew, so ofcourse I’m called a drew support. fartherest from the truth I am a justice support and not interenet/media justice either.
    I think the term fsp poster refers IMO to those on FSP that cause the shut down of the board with their insane antics. These same posters are now running from board/blog to board/blog trolling like insane jane!!
    I don’t think that was all fsp posters and there are only a few that post here that I would put in that catagory because of their trolling antics on this site. Ofcourse you have some on the other side of fsp that do the same thing as the fsp trolls but on the drew side!
    It’s stupid and I’m pretty sick of it and that’s why I ended up here but if the trolls continue then I’m gone for good even as much as I enjoy discussing with cfs,bash,rescue, noway and others I may not have mentioned that are not trolls wanting to post others personal information and cause havoc.

  43. cfs7360 // June 27, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Those investigators were LE, not the GJ. Wonder how could Drew think one would have anything to do with the other? I doubt LE could prevent the GJ from calling whomever they deemed pertinent to this case. Could they?

    I don’t know but I do think it’s pretty crappy that LE would play around with children like they did concerning this issue.
    These kids were basically told you do this interview and let us tape you and then you won’t have to go through this again.
    Then they turn around and say FAKE OUT WE LIED and you can’t do anything about it.
    not giving a good impression of LE to those children that are trying to convict their father. Could even make the kids feel like they are trying to put their father in prision regardless what the truth is.
    those kids love their father regardless of what anyone thinks of him or his actions.
    And like I’ve said before most assume what they have to say will be the nail in drews coffin it could turn out the exact opposite.

  44. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 11:22 am

    noway I have a feeling he’s not as dumb as he looks and acts!!
    cfs yes ofcourse he will bring in a big gun experienced with murder trials unless he really is a dummy but I don’t think so! He’s never tried a murder trial from what I understand.
    *************

    Good day everyone.

    I need to catch up on things here, but I wanted to comment about JB not being as “dumb” as he looks and acts.

    While he may be a reasonably intelligent man according to his own admissions, and while he may be licensed to practice in the State of Illinois as an accredited attorney, the facts remain that he has taken on a high profile case, and helped turn it into one of the most ridiculed defense practices never before realized. Legal commentators have ridiculed his ways. JBrodsky might not agree with their insights, but I’ve not yet seen one legal commentator commend him for his actions. Of course, JBrodsky claims, in the end they’ll all be apologizing to him when his client is cleared of any charges that may come. Oh, but wait, I forgot, he says no charges will be coming.

    All of us have seen celebrity attorneys on tv discussing their clients’ cases, but never, ever, has anyone seen anything like these two characters.

    JBrodsky has been quoted by his partner as telling her this is going to get them all book deals, and she once admitted that she was not happy with the way he and the client were handling the glare of the media.

    You know, it is quite possible, if you have an open mind, that JBrodsky has lost sight of what practicing law is really about, and has embarked on what he thinks is a career of fame and fortune. His only fortune, though, is going to have to come from books and appearances, and I’m not so sure the public is going to welcome him with open arms, especially when he has such a disliked client. The notoriety that these two have gained is strictly based on their actions in the media, and their love of the attention. If there’s anything negative to come from all of this, there’s no one to blame but the two characters involved!

    We shall see. Not everyone handles the legal profession with dignity and respectability. My opinion – this is one lawyer who is absolutely trying to cash in on the fame.

  45. I should havealso added that they were some excellent posts on SYM in the “Drew could have had a hand in this” category. It really wasn’t all bad, and there were some very interesting discussions taking place from time to time.

    And yes Freedom, I know where you’re coming from. We all have our opinions, and I hope our main focus is to see justice served, whatever that may be. Some people just have their own opinions about Drew’s involvement, and only when the GJ concludes will any of us know where this is heading, as she sounds like a broken record. 😀

  46. LE also told Kim M that if she spoke to them she wouldn’t be called to Grand Jury.

    Note to self: LE doesn’t represent GJ and doesn’t speak for them. Don’t buy it. Talk to a lawyer ASAP.

  47. rescue no doubt JB is seeking fame, I don’t deny that and I also think his antics have been pretty stupid but then again I think the antics from those in charge of the fsp site are right up there with joels.
    what a circus it has been.

    cfs I don’t exclude that drew possibly murdered both women, I’ve said before he may have and statiscs backup that he has. I just don’t see any proof and based upon many things from LE don’t feel they have any. So I look at all that doesn’t add up and much doesn’t add up on either side. IMO

  48. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 11:49 am

    I don’t know but I do think it’s pretty crappy that LE would play around with children like they did concerning this issue.
    These kids were basically told you do this interview and let us tape you and then you won’t have to go through this again.
    Then they turn around and say FAKE OUT WE LIED and you can’t do anything about it.
    not giving a good impression of LE to those children that are trying to convict their father. Could even make the kids feel like they are trying to put their father in prision regardless what the truth is.
    those kids love their father regardless of what anyone thinks of him or his actions.
    And like I’ve said before most assume what they have to say will be the nail in drews coffin it could turn out the exact opposite.
    __________________
    I agree, the could protect their father no matter what happened. They may not want to lose him to a prison sentence. since he’s basically all they have left as a parent. I’ve said that before too. But they may also, between them, know what he did, and may want him punished for taking their mothers away. We just don’t know for sure.

    I also would think that Drew, with nearly 30 yrs in LE, would have had prior expereince with GJ’s and would know that they could or would call those boys regardless of what LE told him, but maybe not. It seems as though his attorney at the time would have advised him of that possibility. However, I do see where you’re coming from too.

  49. I agree that people who are interested in the case be they pro-justice, pro-drew, or anything in between tend to post all over the place. Many people had accounts at FSP who didn’t even post there, just read there to keep up. I just hate to see people lumped into groups on two sides of a fence…as if there’s no gray area. From what I’ve read here and elsewhere there is a LOT of gray area.

    There are also lots of different avenues that led people to the case. There are people with an interest in psychic and EVP stuff, forensics, missing persons, domestic violence, legal system, human rights, women-hating, man-hating, cops and law enforcement, child abuse, courtroom drama, bolingbrook issues, illinois issues, etc.

    That’s another reason why it seems silly for people to be constantly accusing someone on one board of being their old arch enemy from some other board. I guess it’s possible but there are just so, so many people interested in the case and frequenting these boards. It seems like you can go anywhere and find someone who is going to disagree with you.

  50. Agreed CFS, that Drew surely knew that GJ might call the kids at any time. Of course he’s going to appear shocked and wronged publicly.

    I would do the same thing if I were in his shoes.

  51. Rescue, as always, a very insightful post, IMO, and as always, seems to mirror my point of view.
    Good job.

    Facs, yours too! I guess I can just stop posting and sit back and read what you guys say that I think, lol.

    Since you mentioned the many interests people have in this case, I was drawn to it because of the psychology involved. Like Freedom, I’ve never, ever followed a case of any kind before, but this one just grabbed me for some reason. And until all of this unfolded, have never even posted on a blog before. But it is interesting to compare opinions based on the same information at everyone’s fingertips. Amazing how different personalities views different details, and that, to me is one of the most interesting aspects of reading the various posts. Tells you a lot about people.

  52. IMO if anyone should have known the “lying tactics” of LE, it was Drew. How many times might he have done the same thing to a witness … promised them something and then went back on it. So wah, wah, wah.

    This is a murder investigation. His son is 15 and certainly able to handle questions. It’s not like they sat him a wooden chair, then had someone shine a 1000-watt light in his face and grilled him for 4 hours.

    IMO The traumatization occured years ago when his mother was murdered and 8 months ago when his step/adoptive mother disappeared.

  53. facsmiley // June 27, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Agreed CFS, that Drew surely knew that GJ might call the kids at any time. Of course he’s going to appear shocked and wronged publicly.

    I would do the same thing if I were in his shoes.
    __________
    Drew has been “shocked” about a lot of things.

    Fake. Fake. Fake. Fake.

    IMO

  54. Geez, y’all are reading my mind this morning. Noway, I couldn’t have said better, and certainly not as creatively.

  55. He certainly wanted to avoid those “FSP posters”, didn’t he? I think it’s funny that some pro-drew people assume that everyone who doesn’t share their opinion, is somehow a part of the “FSP” group. They really underestimate the breadth of the Internet and the scope of public opinion, as well as its intricacies.

    It sure ain’t black and white. I think anyone who’s followed the case online knows that!

  56. Funny thing about DPeterson’s outrage over his teen sons having to testify. He did the same thing when his son, Steven, the 28 year old, had to appear before the GJ. He was also outraged when his mother, who he called senile, appeared before GJ. Guess she needed to be called senile in case she said something about him that wasn’t flattering.

    He’s outraged that anyone has had to appear before GJ.

    Should have thought about that before he got himself into the legal mess he’s in right now. Would he have expected anything less, or did he expect the disappearance of SPeterson would have gone unnoticed.

    I wish we’d get some insight into what DPeterson really thought was going to happen after his wife disappeared. What were his plans and what did he think was going to come of it?. I’m really curious to know if he, in all honesty, thought this was just some minor inconvenience that he would overcome without the slightest bit of effort.

    Most homicides are done, I would imagine, during either an emotional, angry reaction, or during a mental meltdown. If not, then it would have been methodically planned and thought out. Wonder which category he’d fit into if he is, in fact, responsible for the deaths of two wives?????

  57. One thing I do wonder about though, provided Drew is involved, is if those boys are scared of losing another parent to a prison sentence, or if they realy don’t believe he could have had anything to Stacy or Kathleen’s demise, or they are just plain scared of Drew, and that could be a reason for any positive testimony in Drew’s favor (if given) and for their excelling in school as they do. We’ll all probably know at some point, but it does make me wonder about those boys.

  58. Funny how a man with over 30 years in LE is now criticizing the means and ways of the laws which he so nobly professes to have enforced!

    Isn’t that just a hoot???

  59. If it was really as awful as Drew Peterson would like us to believe, then he needs to fire the boys’ lawyer.

    What was he doing the whole time Drew’s son was “being grilled” … eating bon-bons?

    Puhleez.

  60. I can see the boys trying to protect Drew because he is the only parent they have left … but if they stop to think WHY that is … they might just not care about Mr. Mom.

    They are surrounded by family members who love them … I think this is clear to them now if it wasn’t before.

  61. Rescue, if he is involed in this, he probably didn’t think that far ahead if rage was involved, or he may have thought it would go by the wayside as Kathleen’s homocide did. I think he probably got hit with a lot of emergency planning, and had to scramble to try to come up with something that “he” in his mind, thought would be” believable”…..NOT.

  62. noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    If it was really as awful as Drew Peterson would like us to believe, then he needs to fire the boys’ lawyer.

    What was he doing the whole time Drew’s son was “being grilled” … eating bon-bons?

    Puhleez.
    +++++++++++++
    Chatting with Ashley?

  63. What I think about the teens in all of this is this. As time goes on, the pain of the tragedies lessens. Time heals all wounds, and any of us who has lost someone near and dear knows that life goes on and we need to go on with it.

    These kids stand to lose the security of their home and friends and their now, newly adjusted routine. They may secretly fight their inner demons on a daily basis thinking about
    what their father has done or is capable of doing, but now he’s the only one they’ve got. If he goes, they go. New home, new schools, new routines, new friends. Other than DP and his son, Steven, what family members are left that they have a relationship with? DP’s mother? His brother, Paul? I don’t know, but it sure isn’t Stacy’s family or Kathleen’s family. We know they’re all on DPeterson’s crap list.

    On one hand, they may dream of the day they can get the heck out of there and get out on their own, but do what they need to do now to get through it now. It’s called survival.

    On the other hand, I have no idea if they’re so robotic that they don’t have emotions anymore, seeing what they’ve been through. As to the teens, after losing two mothers, not to mention all of the family members connected with these two women, maybe there’s nothing left to mourn.

  64. rescueapet // June 27, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I wish we’d get some insight into what DPeterson really thought was going to happen after his wife disappeared. What were his plans and what did he think was going to come of it?. I’m really curious to know if he, in all honesty, thought this was just some minor inconvenience that he would overcome without the slightest bit of effort.
    ******************
    I think he guessed that there would be a short period of interest and then it would all go away, just as it had the last time when Kathleen had her ‘accident’. I think he completely underestimated how loved Stacy was and how unbelievable it would be to others to think that she had just run off and left her children. I also think he didn’t factor in Kathleen’s mysterious death resurfacing, nor the exhumation and her manner of death being changed to ‘homicide’.

    I think he played a dangerous game once and having gotten away with it, thought he could pull it off one more time.

    IMO, of course.

  65. cfs – I think you’re right. If he was responsible for the fate of at least SPeterson’s death, it was during an outburst of rage, and he had to play the hand he was dealt in dealing with her disposal.

  66. noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 9:21 am

    I’d be interested in his yahoo dating activities before Stacy disappeared.

    _______________________

    Drew was always cheating on his wives, so I think it’s likely he had ongoing affairs on the side while married to Stacy. It wouldn’t be out of the ordinary for him to be seeking someone online.

  67. cfs7360 // June 27, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    If it was really as awful as Drew Peterson would like us to believe, then he needs to fire the boys’ lawyer.

    What was he doing the whole time Drew’s son was “being grilled” … eating bon-bons?

    Puhleez.
    +++++++++++++
    Chatting with Ashley?
    ___________
    Me chatting with Ashley or the lawyer chatting with Ashley?

    I can only speak for myself! No. 😀

  68. No – I don’t think DPeterson was chatting with Ashley during the grilling, LOL. He may have moved on to his next “victim,” since he’s having a hard time establishing a commitment from anyone these days. Can’t understand why not, but, hey, DPeterson’s a complicated guy.

  69. And, if he is involed, which I believe, I don’t think he ever in his lifetime thought Kathleen would be exhumed.

  70. Noway, that’s what I meant. Drew could have been chatting with Ashley(or another young boobette) instead of just eating bon bons. 😀

  71. Thinking about the kids just makes me too sad. They are in such a no-win situation. They are the true victims in all of this. Even if Drew is never charged, or charged and acquitted they’ll live with this the rest of their lives. They’ll have doubts and if they actually do have knowledge of what happened, it will haunt them forever.

    A leeetle story. When I first me my now ex-husband, I got to meet his paternal grandfrather a few times. He was in his early 90s and he was a very quiet, kind of dignified old Scandinavian gentleman. The stories I heard about him were that he had led his family on several cross country moves always looking for a quieter and more peaceful mode of life. He worked as a mail carrier and he moved to South Dakota to find a more peaceful route, then to rural California. He sometimes made small oil paintings of pastoral settings – a farmhouse, kids on a rope swing, a farmer.

    Years and years after the man died, I learned that at the age of 12 he had killed his own father. His dad had been drunk and was beating his wife, and the boy, who had had enough, picked up a shotgun and shot him dead.

    So, no direct correlation, but just that when something traumatic happens to you as a child it seems like there is no way of escaping the legacy it leaves.

  72. cfs – good point about not even considering the exhumation of KS’s body.

    I can’t say enough about how mind boggling that whole death investigation was. How could her family plead for justice with documents, reports, etc., to back their concerns up, and it never even got considered? How in the world? If it was corruption and sweeping it all under the rug, what is it about this man that brings people to their knees in such a way? Who is he?

  73. Rescue, I know “of” someone that seems to very interested in him, and believes in him beyond compare. Maybe at some point fate will intervene on their behalf and they can live happily ever after, just like Hnery VIII and Anne Boleyn.

  74. Facs said: So, no direct correlation, but just that when something traumatic happens to you as a child it seems like there is no way of escaping the legacy it leaves.

    Facs, I’ve wondered, when those boys were granted immunity if either of them could have been involved in the possible death of Stacy, or would admit to it to protect their father, God forbid. It can and does happen that kids protect a parent for whatever reason, but I truly don’t think, nor want to believe that either of them had a hand in it.

    So much tragedy with so many possibilities…….

  75. I think if one of those boys did it alone (not assisting Drew) and if Drew knew it, he would give them up to save his own skin from the accusations, etc.

  76. basherette // June 27, 2008 at 10:25 am

    For goodness sake- WHY is it so bloody hard to have an intelligent intercourse here?

    ———————————————————–

    Bash-sorry but I have been cracking up ever since I read this. We could all use a good laugh. LOL!

    I will be back later, busy day for me.

    Hi everyone! I hope that you are all having a great Friday. TGIF.

  77. Bash may not have meant it to be funny, it may be meant as in to interact/communicate, etc.

    I just skipped over it when I read it (and said to myself, no, not sexual, you silly old woman!).

  78. cfs7360 // June 27, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    I shouldn’t have posted that about Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. Sorry guys.
    ____________
    You’re right. You shouldn’t have.

    They don’t post here.

    😀

  79. facsmiley // June 27, 2008 at 11:26 am

    He certainly wanted to avoid those “FSP posters”, didn’t he? I think it’s funny that some pro-drew people assume that everyone who doesn’t share their opinion, is somehow a part of the “FSP” group. They really underestimate to breadth of the Internet and the scope of public opinion, as well as its intricacies.

    It sure ain’t black and white. I think anyone who’s followed the case online knows that!

    ______________________

    That’s what really bothers me about the SYM site. If you’re not pro-Drew, then you’re automatically catagorized as a member of the FSP group.

    What about those people, like me, who were not really affiliated with the FSP group????

    I find it offensive, to a degree, being pigeon-holed into an “either you’re with us or against us” position……….pro-Drew or pro-Stacy side.

    There’s many people who’ve never laid eyes on the FSP website, who feel Drew Peterson is guilty of double murder.

  80. Molly,
    You could ask over there, but I really doubt that they care about anyone’s feelings about being pigeon-holed. Their side, our side, and the children’s side, then there is the truth!

  81. molly very true!!
    I can’t count the number of times I have been accused of being JB or even drew. ha being accused of being bigm Really takes the cake though. It’s just pure ignorance as far as I’m concerned or some kind of mental sickness has overtaken some concerning this case!!

  82. Rescueapet said………..

    “Should have thought about that before he got himself into the legal mess he’s in right now. Would he have expected anything less, or did he expect the disappearance of SPeterson would have gone unnoticed.”
    _____________________

    I’ve felt all along that if this case had stayed local and not had the glare of the national media, Drew thought he could weather the storm.

    Some locals would buy his story that she ran off with another man. Stacy’s family wouldn’t buy it, just like the Savio family didn’t think Kathleen’s death was an accident. But, with no body being found, eventually it would all just go away.

    The national media and Drew’s actions, comments and non-actions is what has propelled this case to where it is today.

  83. cfs7360 // June 27, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    And, if he is involed, which I believe, I don’t think he ever in his lifetime thought Kathleen would be exhumed.
    ______________________

    I couldn’t agree more, and that also fits in with my opinion that Drew never bargained on the national media, nor the exhumation of Kathleen’s body.

    These are things he couldn’t foresee, no matter how much planning he did.

  84. You and cfs are right. Once Kathleen’s death was declared an accident, I’m sure he thought he was free and clear.

    He didn’t envision the day when he wouldn’t control what Stacy said, did, and thought. Once she wanted a life without him, he knew it was only a matter of time.

    IMO

  85. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 11:49 am

    cfs7360 // June 27, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Those investigators were LE, not the GJ. Wonder how could Drew think one would have anything to do with the other? I doubt LE could prevent the GJ from calling whomever they deemed pertinent to this case. Could they?

    I don’t know but I do think it’s pretty crappy that LE would play around with children like they did concerning this issue.
    These kids were basically told you do this interview and let us tape you and then you won’t have to go through this again.
    Then they turn around and say FAKE OUT WE LIED and you can’t do anything about it.
    not giving a good impression of LE to those children that are trying to convict their father. Could even make the kids feel like they are trying to put their father in prision regardless what the truth is.
    those kids love their father regardless of what anyone thinks of him or his actions.
    And like I’ve said before most assume what they have to say will be the nail in drews coffin it could turn out the exact opposite.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Guess what, it is not the job of LE to leave a good impression of themselfs with the boys. LE’s job is to find out who murdered their moms and put them in prison. How in the world could the boys ever have a good impression of LE without years of counseling? It was an LE officer that killed their moms and it is LE that will put their dad in prison. Those boys are screwed and it is all Drew’s fault period.

  86. Just have a second here………

    Does anyone know if Drew or Joel have addressed this “Ashley webcam” thing?

    Just wondering………

  87. And how do we know that is what the boys were told.

    It’s what Drew says he was told … but I really don’t believe much that comes out of his mouth.

    🙂

  88. Noway, sorry. Had to say one other thing.

    I believe with all my heart that if/when Drew told told Stacy he killed Kathleen, it was a death sentence for her. After hearing that, there was no way she would ever be able to leave that man, and have a life on her own. And that’s why I believe in the validity of Neil Schori’s statement.

  89. cfs, not that I know of. Haven’t been back on SYM for awhile … will check there. Haven’t seen anything public. But haven’t seen anything public about it at all (not counting blogboards and “fourms”)

  90. mollymcgee // June 27, 2008 at 2:08 pm said:

    Some locals would buy his story that she ran off with another man. Stacy’s family wouldn’t buy it, just like the Savio family didn’t think Kathleen’s death was an accident. But, with no body being found, eventually it would all just go away.

    ************

    Ah, but here’s the interesting part. LE HAD a body in the KSavio death matter. What the heck happened? Once again, I ask, what is it about DPeterson that brought most everyone in authority to their knees regarding the investigation of KS? LE, coroner, death panel, State’s Attorney? Who was responsible for getting it past all of these people without even a second thoughtregarding the circumstances surrounding her death?????

    And, as to what LE told or didn’t tell DPeterson about his sons testifying or not testifying before the GJ – yes, he is the one making the public statements about being reassured they could give a statement and not have to appear before a GJ later.

    Obviously, there was no legal recourse to keep the teens out of the GJ, so whatever it is DPeterson is squawking about isn’t flying with anybody.

    He made comments publicly just about any time someone closely related to him was compelled to appear before the GJ. Didn’t want them to have to appear and bitched about it, and make it absolutely clear!

    What I’m wondering is if there is an investigation into the investigation??? By that, I mean, what went on during the KS investigation, who was in charge, and what happened?

  91. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    word is the FBI is supposed to be investigating those that investigated Kathleen’s death.

    ******************

    Now that, freedom, I am interested in hearing about. The investigation into the investigation. A BIG sideshow itself!

  92. Nothing that I can see from Joel (don’t expect Drew to say a word about it … better to focus on his bored … oh, make that traumatized son).

  93. Was the FBI called in after the GJ began hearing testimony?

    IMO heads should roll with in regard to the Savio investigation. And I use that word loosely because I don’t think much of an investigation took place.

  94. IMO, that blue wall played a big part in the inept investigation of Kathleen’s death. I think that’s a lot of why the present Police Chief is so disgusted with Peterson and is do adamant about disassociating the police department from him.

    It just seems as if for years the BPD overlooked and smoothed over transgression after trangression for DP. Domestic disputes, misuse of official records and surveillance equipment, being asked to officially “OK” his relationship with a 17-year old girl. We don’t even know what else may have transpired there that his brothers covered for him. I’d love to know why his old partner refuses to talk to him now.

  95. I think it is icky that Drew is using a webcam nickname that starts with BPD when he is no longer a member of the police force.

  96. Thanks Noway for checking on that. Boys, I’ll tell you what! Brodsky’s job just seems to keep getting harder and harder, doesn’t it? Never know what’s going to pop up on the Internet anymore concerning Drew’s attempts at searching for love. He must really be getting desperate for companionship is all I can say.

  97. Facs, I think it’s icky that Drew is using a webcam period, if he’s using it for what Ashley said he was sing it for. Especially while Anthony is watching in the background. Geez!

  98. facs, my guess is that he has had that account for some time.

    That’s why I’m hoping others come forward after having chatted with Mr. Mom.

    My guess is he was chatting long before Stacy went missing.

    I’d love to know what the investigation into Drew’s employment turned up that he would have been fired for …

    cfs, call everyone “you guys” … that’s what they do (in parts) of Montana.

  99. I do find it interesting that Ashley has not added to that initial post. Maybe she has talked to a lawyer, or maybe she’s working on her coffee table book.

    For the record, I don’t at all doubt that he conversed with her and the dog in me wants to know every creepy word of it. But I also don’t doubt that Ashley could have her own reasons for her blog, which could be financial. Note the ‘owned by Ashley’ banner across the photo.

    I guess I’ll sit back and see what develops…

  100. Don’t you wonder what goes on in that house of Drew Peterson?

    Many children live in abusive, stressful households every day. Some of us can attest to that. You do want you need to do to get through it, until you’re old enough to get out.

    No body here can expressly say what’s going on in that house. Unless any of those four gets yanked out, they’re living in their father’s house, living with his rules, living with his demons. How sad.

  101. Another thought is that BPD could have some double meaning. Bolingbrook Police Department and something Drew finds completely funny.

    Ashley has been pretty quiet … wonder if ISP has made contact. 🙂

  102. cfs, call everyone “you guys” … that’s what they do (in parts) of Montana.

    Lol, I usually do, but I mean to say boy this time, without a s on the end. 😀

  103. BBL … kids want to swim and I like to be outside with them when they are … especially when friends are over. 🙂

  104. Y’all just overlook my typos. In a hurry right now.

    I hope ISP has made contact. If not, they should have. Wonder now about the missing laptop…..hmmmm. No telling what could have been on it.

    I think this girl is looking for something too Facs, whether it’s money or whatever.

  105. Rescueapet said………….

    “Ah, but here’s the interesting part. LE HAD a body in the KSavio death matter. What the heck happened? Once again, I ask, what is it about DPeterson that brought most everyone in authority to their knees regarding the investigation of KS? LE, coroner, death panel, State’s Attorney? Who was responsible for getting it past all of these people without even a second thoughtregarding the circumstances surrounding her death?????”

    ______________________

    I’ve felt from the beginning that the circumstances surrounding the investigation into Kathleen Savio’s death were rife with corruption.

    I can’t point to one single thing – it’s a matter of too many things that don’t add up.

    The discovery of KS’s body is, of course, suspicious. Steve Carcerano’s version of events that night sounds like a well-rehearsed cover story.

    According to those who did subsequent autopsies, the findings of the original autopsy were consistent with a homicide. Yet……….that was obviously not brought to the attention of the coroner’s jury.

    A member of that coroner’s jury, made up of community people, says they were give three choices – homicide, accidental, or natural causes. They weren’t given information that would point them to a homicide, and there was no choice of “inconclusive.”

    Furthermore, there was a police officer on the coroner’s jury who vouched for Drew, telling the others that he was a “nice guy” who would never hurt anyone. That police officer had no business being on that jury – it was a conflict of interest.

    And there’s been reports that Drew paced outside the building that day waiting for the outcome of the coroner’s jury.

    I read one article that stated that Police Chief Ray McGury was brought in two years prior to Stacy’s disappearance to clean up corruption within the department.

    I feel it’s very likely that there was corruption, not only in the BBPD, but in other county offices that assisted in covering up a homicide.

    This is going to sound a bit overly dramatic and I don’t mean it to be, but even though I’ve never been to Bolingbrook in my entire life – never heard of it until this case – there are other things that make me suspicious. One being a member of the Bolingbrook community that posts on a forum. If anything is mentioned about Drew or Stacy Peterson, your post is deleted with no explanation.

  106. Re: KS ~ What if Drew was as surprised as everyone that KS’s death was ruled “accidental.” Maybe he thought it would be ruled a homicide, but covered his butt to make sure he wasn’t the one charged?

    Glasgow claims as soon as he looked at the pictures taken at the scene, he was convinced the death scene was “staged.” Staged how? Staged to look like an accident, or staged to look like a homicide? Drew Peterson had to know KS’s boyfriend was not around the weekend she was found dead in a dry bath tub. Since he had an alibi for himself, what would he care if her death was ruled a homicide, as long as he wasn’t the one being accused. Accident – homicide, made no difference to him. He was “home in bed” with Stacy, right?

  107. One being a member of the Bolingbrook community that posts on a forum. If anything is mentioned about Drew or Stacy Peterson, your post is deleted with no explanation.
    *****************************

    Could you explain this a little more clearly? This is what I got:

    There is a forum.
    There is a local BB person who posts on said forum.
    Said forum also deletes any post that mentions Drew or Stacy Peterson.

    How does the person who posts on that forum relate to posts being deleted? What is the subject of the forum you mention? Are posts about Drew and Stacy deleted because they are off-topic? Can you give us a link or something? I’m confused.

  108. Peterson said he was concerned about the welfare of his son, saying, “He’s been at the grand jury for what? Four hours? That’s concerning (to me that) they’d put any 15-year-old through all that grilling.”

    **********************

    I’ll tell you what is concerning to a lot of people. Well, to me, anyway. How do you tell two teens that, once again, a beloved mother has passed through their lives, never to be seen again, and no matter what they saw, heard, will see or will hear that casts their father in a bad light is lies and viciousness that they must become “bored” with and ignore.

    As he is such a good example to them and showing them the way to do this by trolling around, looking for anyone under the age of 23 that will look back at him, hoping he can “spend the rest of his life” with her.

    And he is showing them the way to honor the memory of their beloved mothers by degrading them, demoralizing them, bad mouthing them, and publicly trashing them, without them having the benefit of defending themselves against his scathing attacks.

    How does a man raise another man to be a decent, respectful human being towards women, when he can’t even do the same himself?

    At least his sons, Eric and Stephen, are fortunate enough to have a mother that passed through Drew Peterson’s life, and she made it out alive.

  109. facsmiley // June 27, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    One being a member of the Bolingbrook community that posts on a forum. If anything is mentioned about Drew or Stacy Peterson, your post is deleted with no explanation.
    *****************************

    Could you explain this a little more clearly? This is what I got:

    There is a forum.
    There is a local BB person who posts on said forum.
    Said forum also deletes any post that mentions Drew or Stacy Peterson.

    How does the person who posts on that forum relate to posts being deleted? What is the subject of the forum you mention? Are posts about Drew and Stacy deleted because they are off-topic? Can you give us a link or something? I’m confused.
    ______________________

    The forum I mentioned is a political/current events forum. If someone posted, “Family of 5 found shot to death in Atlanta”, that post would remain as a current events topic and be discussed.

    The owner of the forum is a Bolingbrook resident. More to the point, he’s a member of the Bolingbrook PD.

    Any post about Drew or Stacy Pederson is deleted right away with no explanation.

  110. The owner of the forum is a Bolingbrook resident. More to the point, he’s a member of the Bolingbrook PD.

    Any post about Drew or Stacy Pederson is deleted right away with no explanation.
    ************************

    Alex Morelli is a member of the BBPD, and he’s DP’s former partner. I sure wouldn’t want to hear DP’s name either if I were him.

    DP’s first and very wise attorney also has the name “Morelli.” I don’t know if they’re related, but neither one has anything to do with Drew Peterson now.

    Can’t say that I blame them.

  111. CFS:”I think it is icky that Drew is using a webcam nickname that starts with BPD when he is no longer a member of the police force.”

    I wonder if it is legal for him to use BPD, since he is no longer affliated with them?

  112. BBPD had that computer for over 6 months and guess they didn’t see a problem with that being on there.

    ofcourse the time/date stamp on the blog could be fake!

  113. freedom08 // June 27, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    BBPD had that computer for over 6 months and guess they didn’t see a problem with that being on there.

    ofcourse the time/date stamp on the blog could be fake!
    ****************

    freedom – I’m confused by what you mean. What computer did BBPD have for over 6 months and didn’t see a problem with?

    If you’re referring to the pic on the new blog, isn’t that in DP’s home, on his personal computer, using a screen name beginning with BBP?

    Sorry, I’m confused by your post.

  114. Oh, never mind, I understand what you meant. LE confiscated his computer is what your saying.

    Why wouldn’t or couldn’t he have installed that web cam and software after he got it back?

  115. Or, had a computer at his disposal while the one he used to have was confiscated?

    He was able to get a cell phone quickly enough to use from MRobinson after his was taken. Maybe he got MRobinson to get him a computer.

  116. And as far as the other site “deleting” posts about the Peterson case … since the owner of the site is a Bolingbrook police officer, I’d say he just doesn’t want to compromise the case in any way.

    IMO

  117. yes noway. Also anyone can use the initials
    BPD if they want.
    Now if the software is owned by BPD and they had this computer then they obviously left the software on the pc. I’m sure if if was illegal an arrest warrant would have been issued!!
    In otherwords I think some things get really blown out of proportion when there is nothing to it at all.

  118. This was the “last imagine received” post by Drew … I’d like to see the first … if it was prior to Stacy going missing. Otherwise I don’t think I need any more pictures of Drew.

  119. LOL, I’ve been reading (maybe posted, but I’m not admittin’) :), and it’s sure getting steamy on the Ashley blog.

    If we’re getting taken for a ride, I’m going to be extremely disappointed.

    But, hey, in the meantime, if someone from here still asks questions of JB over at SYM, could you ask him what impish minds thought up this little diddy of Ashley’s, or if it’s the real deal and they’re running for hills.

    I’d appreciate that.

  120. Well, I guess this was predictable. Interesting that he doesn’t deny it or call it a hoax, though:

    joelbrodsky
    « Result #3 Today at 4:52pm »

    “I am going to make one comment on this Ashley, and no more: Hell hath no fury like a women scorned. “

  121. Hiya All –

    Back from a fantastic vacation to the Cape and Martha’s.

    Looks like I haven’t missed too much at all.

    Still no arrest, and still hardly any discussion on Stacy, searchs etc.

    Oh, and I have a feeling more than a few of us know who “Ashley” is……:)

  122. This is not me, but I don’t know that this person posts here: I am going to make one comment on this Ashley, and no more: Hell hath no fury like a women scorned.

    Can you take a jab, I mean stab, at who said that?

  123. Facs, I try to be clever … you just put it out there. 😀

    Like a woman scorned? That could be half of Bolingbrook. And with DP on the Internet trolling for babes, well half the US maybe?

    Letthetruthbefree, the wheels of justice and all that … 😉

  124. Oh wait … JB said “women” so I guess he knew it could be more than one … or two … or three … 😉

  125. Sorry I stepped on it Noway!

    Wasn’t that the same phrase Drew used to describe the ex girlfriend that he stalked and harrassed – Kyle Piry?

  126. letthetruthbefree // June 27, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    First of all, LTTBF – welcome back! Glad you had a good time and your safe!

    Now, you said: Oh, and I have a feeling more than a few of us know who “Ashley” is……

    LOL, I dont’ know who “Ashley” is! Okay, what am I missing here??????

  127. So, Drew was asked the question over at SYM regarding this Ashley, and he answered back that it’s a scorned “women?”

    🙂

  128. Rescue –

    Thanks!!!!

    There is a poster that posts quiet often on these boards, and her real name is Ashley, so those that know her, know this would be something she would do.

    I’m just presuming it’s her, I have no proof, but I wouldn’t doubt it either.

    So other than all the bickering and stuff, any “real” news other than Thomas going before the GJ?

  129. The SYM crowd is all over Ashleys blog. Funny they mention south side wh..re. Isn’t that where the head of SYM’s lives?

  130. LTTBF – no, nothing earth shattering, no news. In fact, most of the time you were gone, it was very quiet here. It’s starting to pick up again because of the interest in the GJ, and yesterday, this Ashley blog was created, which looks to be very interesting if it pans out.

  131. Here’s a little tidbit about attorney’s I learned on vacation.

    There was a major case going on in the Boston area, so of you might have even watched it, the Neil Entwistle Trial. I watched as much of it as I could on tv, and couldn’t and still can’t stomach the defense attorney representing Neil. He is extremely rude to witnesses etc.

    I had a free day out there, and we decided to go to the courthouse and watch a bit of the trial. As we were walking up to the building, it was lunch recess, whom do I first see….You got it, Neil’s attorney. Outside laughing it up, smiling, having a grand time. I couldn’t believe it was the same man that stands in court.

    My lesson, don’t judge them until you see them in action on either side, in the courtroom and outside the courtroom.

  132. Did any of you follow the Spector trial?

    Remember all the website mades etc regarding Phil? It was crazy!!!!

  133. LTTBF – I believe Brodsky has already stated he will not be the one handling the court sessions should his client be charged (mind you, he has emphatically stated numerous times that is not going to happen).

    So, we will never get to see Brodsky in action because:

    1) – his client is NEVER going to be charged;

    2) – no cameras in the court rooms in IL

    3) – he’s not going to be handling the court trial, if there was going to be one

    4) – he’s never tried a homicide case

  134. Either Ashley has been stopped by the ISP or it was all a bunch of hooey.

    But then … who is the “women” scorned that Joel thinks it is . . . so many women … so little time.

    🙂

  135. noway – why do you think Ashley has been stopped by the ISP.

    I could well believe it was hooey, though. Too good to be true.

  136. Rescue, I thought he said he’d be ‘first chair’ … or was that at the weapons charge court date?

  137. It’s a shame that camera’s aren’t allowed into the Courtrooms in Illinois.

    I’ve said from the start, regardless of what JB says, he would never be “first chair” if Drew is charged with murder. My personal feeling is Drew will hire the big dogs for that.

  138. Rescue, I just thought that if she really had emails from/to Drew, she would have posted them by now.

    I thought someone might have stopped her. Don’t think it was her conscience.

  139. noway – yes, Brodsky has made some comments that he would be running the show, so to speak. He calls the shots, I guess he means, but he will not be the one doing the courtroom antics.

    Atty Abood, who is the one that, I assume will be, is low profile, low key, and seems dignified and professional. How come he can handle himself in such a manner, yet, Brodsky can’t keep his mug or mouth out of the news?

  140. He’s got other lawyers … Andrew Abood is one. Is he a big dog?

    I’m torn between wishing there were cameras allowed and being grateful there are not.

    I just keep picturing DP and JB jostling for position so that their mugs are on camera.

  141. noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Rescue, I just thought that if she really had emails from/to Drew, she would have posted them by now.
    *******************

    Yeah, I don’t know why the tease, but no posts. Oh, well.

  142. Rescue, Brodsky has stated that he will be running the show in the courtroom should Drew be charged:

    “To end the speculation and comments I have come accross in other blogs and posts, Yes, I am the first chair. Drews team has obviously planned for any contingency, no matter how remote, and in the very unlikely event that there is a trial I will be lead counsel. This has been discussed and agreed to by all. “

  143. FYI:

    lead counsel
    When more than one lawyer or law firm is hired to represent a party or parties in an action, especially in an action involving more than one jurisdiction, or to represent various plaintiffs in a class action, the lawyer or law firm that controls, coordinates, or manages the litigation and represents the interests of the parties or class as a whole.

  144. letthetruthbefree // June 27, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Rescue –

    Thanks!!!!

    There is a poster that posts quiet often on these boards, and her real name is Ashley, so those that know her, know this would be something she would do.

    I’m just presuming it’s her, I have no proof, but I wouldn’t doubt it either.

    So other than all the bickering and stuff, any “real” news other than Thomas going before the GJ?
    _______________
    Well, has this Ashley who posts here been scorned by Drew? 🙂

  145. The first chair is the one who usually does all the asking of questions. Second chair may handle the questioning of a certain witness.

    This based on my vast knowledge of television courtroom drama.

    😀

    BBL … need to figure out what to have for dinner.

  146. facsmiley – thank you for the snippet. I pretty much remembered seeing him say that in the papers also.

    FYI – It looks like Nancy Grace will be doing a segment tonight about DP’s son appearing before the GJ. Shoot. I won’t be home to see it, so will someone here please abstract it so I can check it after I get home tonight?

  147. Drew Peterson’s son testifies!

    The teenage son of suspect Drew Peterson talks to grand jury investigating death of his mother, disappearance of stepmother.

    Watch Nancy Grace, tonight 8 & 10 ET.

  148. I wonder if we will ever find out what really happened to SP that fateful day.

    Maybe it’s a blessing to not know…I dunno…???

  149. There are other attornies.

    There is one really big dog and another small dog.

    Seek it out and you will find it.

  150. http:// anniemyth.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=illinois&action=display&thread=1364

    Had to space out the link because it will not allow me to publish the entire list with links.

    Here is where you can find the original Who’s Who list of people. Some of the attornies are listed, not all.

    The list conatains man, many more names.

    Please note the author that did the excellent job:

    cleo612
    Guest
    Important Names & Facts
    Thread Started on Jan 28, 2008, 3:25am

  151. Quit with the tax stuff.. obviously you have BAD INFO because they have THAT covered you dont get registered OVER night you morons it takes a LONG LONG time they are NOT the only ones trying to get status so quit it it took a friend of mine nearly a year !!!.. plus ya know what its none of your business -really!!!

    secondly i know there were dogs searching.. wanna know how.. I HAVE SEARCHED.. and i know these people.. PLUS wanna know something they use that boat every weekend to search .. yes my stupid idiotic people out there searches go on everyweekend!!! hence they have a boat… .. makes sense doesnt it???

    Thirdly I started the garden noone BUT ME SONIA .. out of love and challenged people to add to it… now if that bothers people .. i wonder where your hearts are? as for the children seeing the flowers.. i was there .. they were playing outside .. and looking at the flowers smiling.. they know there mother is loved .. so knock of the idiotic talk… like my mother always said … if you can say something nice shut your mouth and dont say anything at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DO i sound piss YES why? Because all you arm chair sleuths out there dont get of your own arses and help search .. you just sit there and critizise! .. so shut your mouths until you have FACTS and have been on a search! That includes JB and drew peterson get your arses out there and look..o0ohh i forgot.. drew already knows where she is .. thats why your not searching you *^*&^&%&^%^!!!

  152. pfftt you arent worth my time .. amanda get out there and search then own what you say till the day you do that.. you are nothing lol 😛

    meirish?? errr wth lol ookk what ever the heck that means …

    naww rescue a pet im not here to start anything 🙂
    the garden is in a nice spot you should see it its beautiful and im sure stacy would love it . Amanda obviously didnt know stacy well … stacy LOVED flowers 🙂 which is why i put my small bunch there under her pic .. where NOONE could dismantle it … people just add it and it makes people feel good … makes drew feel bad but heck i dont care what drew thinks lol or amanda or anyone else.. i put them there outta love and people who loved stacy did the same … PLUS someone dismantled Lisa’s … and i didnt want that to happen 🙂

    end story *sigh*

  153. Oh and sonia, I don’t have a lot to say about the fund tonight.
    Except that the IL Atty Generals office as of today at 4pm has no record of an application by any group with the name Stacy Peterson in it.

    Call them Monday and check it for yourself.

  154. I totally agree that the garden is beautiful.

    But it is in an inappropriate spot.

    The spot you have chosen is wrong. Emotionally disturbing for Stacys own children for example.

    Sonia, I would love to see the garden and a more permanent tribute. In an appropriate spot. A park, or maybe at the college in a quiet spot. Then there could be a tree planted maybe with a plaque, perhaps a stone bench.

    Flowers of course. Annuals and perrenials. A lovely spot where someday her own children can go to contemplate without malice toward them and her memory.

    I also would think a nursing schoalrship in Stacys name would be nice at JCC. Maybe small, but it would give her memory meaning. $500-$1000 per year. Something nice like that.

    Not a shrine to the neighbor to try and break DP. It won’t work, and it is a hard slap to those precious little ones.

    Please do not presume to know what I am worth or whom I know or what I’ve done.

    If it makes you feel any better, I think Drew did it.

    (and I apologize for the meirish remark, it was weak and a cheap shot)

  155. sure ill check it out no probs there .. but ya know what.. i know the family i know the people… ITS really NONE of my business.. as long as they find stacy.. heck ill give them a million if they dive and get her.. .. they can parade round naked … as long as they find her which they are trying to do… so i dont.. for the life of me understand why you are causing problems?
    But ya know what ill check i know the fund name… did you get the fund name right? i doubt it but ya know what in all honesty its none of my business .

  156. How does anyone know that Stacy LOVED flowers? According to her “best” friend?

    Hey Car-why you looking for me?

    I think that Ashley’s site says “owned” because that is a term when you get even with someone or get them really good. I don’t think that she means that she owns the picture. Ashley would be very smart to take that site down but I really don’t want her to do that until she spills all the bean. LE must have gotten to her. JMO

  157. amanda no harm done okay 🙂 listen okay the reason i put my flowers there.. lisa stebics memorial was in a park.. and was dismantled

    BUT you have to trust me on this okay that the children are fine with it… i have been there they have seen it… they know there mommy was loved … i worry about them being in the house with drew.. that is MORE damaging than any flowers… and there was something said about starting up a womens battered shelter in stacys name:)

    Honestly its not a shrine to piss of drew(which we all know it does) but its flowers of love where stacy died.. she can forever look apon them … thats all okay 🙂

  158. i know cos i have spoken to the family lol she loved flowers.. and they thanked me … ducky… just like my family would tell you i adore flowers ..lol

    yeah i think SHe sought out isp before she posted anymore 🙂

  159. I think that the flowers were a great idea at the beginning but they are in the wrong spot. The fountain is over the top.

    Nobody could possibly know what those children are feeling or “know” them at all from just being next door. Those kids do not and will not talk to anyone that is at Sharon’s, they go the opposite direction. It’s sad.

    I wish that the flowers were moved elsewhere, just for the children. I imagine that the children have enough emotions going on inside the home, and then to have it outside their home is just not right, for them. JMO

  160. when she is found im hoping the flowers will be moved to her burial site if that makes you feel any better amanda? 🙂

  161. Sonia, you think I am causing problems?

    Problems for whom?

    Do you seriously not see what this group has done to missing person causes?

    They received hundreds of hours of media coverage. If not thousands. Do you realize there are hundreds of women (and men) out there missing who get no publicity, no money, no attention?

    And here you people make a joke of this woman.
    Then slap her babies and pretend it’s all good because you can go plant and water flowers and sit sipping something with a quasi-celebrity
    wannabe??

    And say I cause trouble?

    Do you actually know how many people have asked questions?

  162. Sonia-Cassandra also said thank you for the flowers but hates flowers and put them in Sharon’s yard instead. Bottom line, people don’t always know what someone is actually thinking and feeling. I think that it was a beautiful gesture in the beginning, but I think that it’s time to move it. JMO

  163. theres a fountain??? errrrr okay i didnt know that … well if it makes people happy .. then we should smile … and ya know what.. i know cos i was there that the kids are okay … they know their mommy is loved … they rode their bikes round and smiled … if they didnt like it they would have been crying…

  164. I have a question. If you think that it’s ok for the flowers to be there, then do also think that it’s ok for all the gawkers to be near the young children each da?. This is one of my biggest concerns. How many people really “knew” Stacy that are there daily? Cases bring out the weirdo’s and it would be better if the gawkers weren’t near the children. Again, JMO.

  165. letthetruthbefree // June 27, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Hiya All –

    Back from a fantastic vacation to the Cape and Martha’s.

    Looks like I haven’t missed too much at all.

    Still no arrest, and still hardly any discussion on Stacy, searchs etc.

    Oh, and I have a feeling more than a few of us know who “Ashley” is…… 🙂

    ______________________

    Hi Let…………glad you had a great vacation – Cape Cod and Martha’s Vineyard is a beautiful vacation spot!

    Who do you think Ashley is – I don’t have a clue? Kim?

  166. sigh whatever .. it wasnt ment to be a publicity thing it was a gesture of love .. never mind … sad that everyone thinks it shouldnt be there .. i dont think it should be in a park for it would be vandalized and dismantled … but again i say .. i hope when shes found its moved to her grave site.

  167. They won’t let you make a joke in a graveyard, fgs.

    Move the garden.

    It can be maintained. You ladies could make sure it does not get vandalized.

    Also, Lisa’s family is the picture of class and dignity, please take a lesson from them.

  168. Sonia-I know that it was your intention to do something really nice, and it was a beautiful gesture. Sometimes things need to be changed. I don’t think that there are that many people that think that it still should be there. No disrespect intended to you.

  169. iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Drews Oprah planned proposal


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Is that from Ashley or another young lady??

  170. wow I missed alot while working.. HEY sonia . where have you been..??

    noway you crack me up still of what ya say .. I like how you stand up and kick where it hurts lol

  171. iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Drews Oprah planned proposal


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    How do you have this and it’s not at Ashley’s? Interesting. Ick!!

  172. umm amanda .. i havent put any more flowers out there.. i havent sat out there sippin anything?? when i go to BB i go there to search not to sit on anyones lawn .

    and i havent made any joke of stacy … so i dont know where that came from .. i gave those flowers to Cass who placed them under stacys pic with me … it was outta love and not a joke .. SIGH …
    anyway i know how ya all feel and your all entitled 🙂 please.. they are flowers .. anyway have a nice evening

  173. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Drews Oprah planned proposal


    ———————————————————
    How do you have this and it’s not at Ashley’s? Interesting. Ick!!

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    look at my name

  174. iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Drews Oprah planned proposal


    ———————————————————
    How do you have this and it’s not at Ashley’s? Interesting. Ick!!

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    look at my name
    ———————————————————

    How did I know that this is exactly what you would say? Come on, give us a hint. hehe

  175. letthetruthbefree // June 27, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    It’s a shame that camera’s aren’t allowed into the Courtrooms in Illinois.

    I’ve said from the start, regardless of what JB says, he would never be “first chair” if Drew is charged with murder. My personal feeling is Drew will hire the big dogs for that.
    _____________________

    Although Illinois doesn’t allow cameras in the courtroom, I bet there will be some excellent reporters who will be conveying what’s happening with their blackberries.

    This case has national media attention, and you can bet that Greta and others will have someone covering it.

  176. Folks, we only have DP’s and JB’s word that an “agreement” was made between them and the ISP, that if the teens were allowed to be interviewed by ISP they would not be called to testify before the GJ.

    Nobody else has mentioned or confirmed this “deal” was in place.

    No one.

    Keep that in mind whilst those two go merrily on their way spewing their outrage at LE on behalf of those 2 teens…

    Personally, I think TweedleDiP and TweedleDupe are full of shitake mushrooms.

  177. hey there bash 🙂 can ya say hi to lugnut when she comes back .. cos i have to go… take care and tell lugg i send hugs 🙂

  178. Email from drew dated 04-16-08
    Well there ya go , above in the header is a email from drew that i am posting , i guess with doing this blog i have hit a nerve of both drew and his attorney because goofy joel posted on a blog called SYM about me ( which someone was nice enough to post for me to read here and drew-cifer sent me a nice long email today ) which i will be posting in the future as well , let me sort thru all the things i have & give me a chance to scan them to my computer because everything was printed out and then i will post more , in the end all will see that i am not a scorned female i promise you that .

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I wonder who sent her that?LOL LOL

  179. iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    Check out Ashleys site now
    ———————————————————-

    If you are Ashley or you are a friend of hers, please make sure that she is safe and speaking with LE. The person that she is posting about has 2 dead wives. She needs to be very cautious. JMO

  180. rescueapet // June 27, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    But, hey, in the meantime, if someone from here still asks questions of JB over at SYM, could you ask him what impish minds thought up this little diddy of Ashley’s, or if it’s the real deal and they’re running for hills.
    *************

    I don’t know anyone from here who still asks JB queries…

    *cough*cough*

  181. Drew certainly is the marrying kind. Now if he could only work on the part where you get divorced first thing.

  182. Sonia,
    Don’t post here much, reading tonight makes me realize why!
    Wanted you to know the flowers in Stacy’s garden are beautiful….there is a small group as you know committed to keeping what you started out of LOVE alive! Thank you for all you’ve done and continue to do.
    Thank you also for reminding all that read here we are still searching….our mission remains the same to Bring Stacy Home! I really don’t understand why that’s so hard for some to grasp? Maybe because it’s a commitment that is done with unconditional love. Stacy’s legacy lives through each and every person who has been involved from day one, does not matter that you knew her or not, more importantly that people care enough to volunteer……weekend after weekend, in the snow and in the heat and in the rain.
    Saturday June 28th marks eight months that a young mother of four has been missing. No contact with her children she loved and adored so much. The ISP have stated she did not leave Pheasant Chase Ct and cut off all contact with her family willing, they are still receiving tips and will continue to do so.
    Oops forgot one more thing the children do play outside and ride their bikes happily, they do smile and wave, the garden WILL STAY put for now. The fountain that was referred to earlier is not true, there are however torch solar lights with beautiful purple ribbons that light Stacy’s picture, wind chimes, bird feeders and many angel statues….a very peaceful place started with one random act of kindness…God Bless

  183. This is a public opinion forum. *Everyone* has a right to express their opinion of the garden and the nonprofit status of FSP.

    If you are asking the public for donations, expect the public to have an opinion and voice it.

    Neither has anything to do with people not wanting to find Stacy.

  184. Hurm… I sure hope that *this* young lady is over the age of majority.

    Never know who you could be talking to online, much less knowing their age.

  185. Jeepers-you might want to update the website for FINDING STACY…do you think that someone could pull themselves away from the garden to keep people posted on the searches for FINDING STACY???

    I have been there and the children do not smile and wave. They don’t come towards Sharon’s house and are not happy with all the strangers. Stop BSing everyone into thinking that the children enjoy the freakshow.

    How many people that are currently there on a daily basis were actually friends of Stacy’s? NONE! Stacy’s friends wouldn’t hurt her children.

    Maybe you should see if Sharon would like to search instead of sipping margarita’s and gossiping on the front porch.

    Sonia had the right intentions, ya all have made it into a circus, not knowing when to stop. Do it for Stacy and for her children, if nothing else. Do you really think that she would approve of this “show” in her children’s presence? Perfect strangers that you know nothing about hanging out there with her little ones.

  186. Duckyone, I have to agree that this garden is attracting all kinds of strangers.

    And while most of them have the best intentions, you never know what kind of whacko (besides the one who lives there) is going to take advantage of strangers in the neighborhood being nothing new.

    My name was on the original flowers from Sonia. I thought what she was doing was so kind and sweet. I would like to see a permanent memorial to Stacy … maybe at the college or somewhere that meant something to Stacy. I’m sure Cass would have a good idea on that.

    Meanwhile, the Ashley Chronicles grow ever more interesting with the emails and comments.

  187. Noway. LOL. Which house does the whacko live in? I’m not quite sure that I knew which one that you were talking about. hehe

  188. Duckyone, I thought it was best to just leave it to each person to decide who the whacko is (for me it is DP but I won’t presume to make that statement for everyone).

    8)

  189. SONIA , I saw that and thanks I switched jobs to day time know yipppy and can chit chat with ya’ll instead of being at work till 2am Iam happy. been wondering where ya went lol… how are you … doing???

    so drew is upset that one of the kids had to testify a .. oh well. good am glad he did ….and drew proubly couldn’t go into the gj room while he talked .. right>?

  190. Hurm, that reminds me… wasn’t one of my queries to JB about DP belonging to “dating” (and I use that term out of politeness) websites?

    And didn’t he say:

    2. Not a member, that I know of. He does browse the web and these type of sites do pop up and are in unsolicited e-mails, but he is not actively seeking an intimate personal relationship right now, and certainly not through the internet.

    Darn those bloody pop ups!!!

  191. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Jeepers-you might want to update the website for FINDING STACY…do you think that someone could pull themselves away from the garden to keep people posted on the searches for FINDING STACY???

    I have been there and the children do not smile and wave. They don’t come towards Sharon’s house and are not happy with all the strangers. Stop BSing everyone into thinking that the children enjoy the freakshow.

    How many people that are currently there on a daily basis were actually friends of Stacy’s? NONE! Stacy’s friends wouldn’t hurt her children.

    Maybe you should see if Sharon would like to search instead of sipping margarita’s and gossiping on the front porch.

    Sonia had the right intentions, ya all have made it into a circus, not knowing when to stop. Do it for Stacy and for her children, if nothing else. Do you really think that she would approve of this “show” in her children’s presence? Perfect strangers that you know nothing about hanging out there with her little ones.
    ———————————————————–
    Ducky This is why I was looking for you. I love your posts. You always make valid points.

  192. Sonia2 – With all due respect. I have donated, I have searched and I have facts.

    And because of that, I have every right to ask if they can prove their status.

    Originally, I didn’t even care, I went to the church and gave money, sent food, coffee, prayed for her safe return, etc… Then I got a few people telling all the same story…I’m using the matching funds at my company, and I’ve asked at FSP for the tax status because my employer needs it and poof…I’m banned. Having done the same thing, I asked and poof…banned. At the time, it did raise some flags but I didn’t really think too much of it…emotions run high. Then I saw more and more of it happening to other posters. So I began researching and researching, as did other posters. I found out what was needed to start a 501 c3. And I began tracking and seeing if maybe they just fouled up some paperwork. I, along with many other posters started at square one and tried every avenue to see if there was just something they overlook. Unfortunately, no. The first step…the VERY FIRST STEP, is to call the Attny Gen, when you are going to solicit donations. As of 4pm today, they have NOT done that.

    Here’s what I’ve heard from the people I’ve contacted. I contacted Carol Penning with regard to the stickers being sold on BB Village time. She accused me of not wanting Stacy found, supporting a double murderer and working for Joel Brodsky. I’ve been told via PM by AmyA to take my money and shove it up my ass. I’ve been told by Admin at FSP that I am “expletive-ING” DP and probably had a hand in her death. All because I asked for infomation on tax status. I’ve contacted the AG, the Sec of State, the IRS, and they have no record of anything regarding Stacy Peterson or FoSP or any variation there of. So, unless there’s a different name or sekrit name, there is NO record of it. And I’m sure that if that is the case, FoSP committee MUST know about it.

    So, a quick recap as to why this IS important. Companies need this information. FSP has been collecting donations since AT LEAST December. They said in March that they were approved and just awaitng a letter. Also, at that time the committee said that financials would be forthcoming. There is a TV interview of Carol Penning stating that they are in the process of “applying” for exempt status….not approved awaiting a letter…”applying”. So either the State of IL is wrong…3 bureaus of government all wrong on the same thing or the committee is wrong. It is now over 6 months since companies have matched donations without ANYWAY to prove it on their taxes. So, yes, it IS my business.

    As for the garden, the public slaps at DP could turn into private slaps at the children. Why aggravate a “suspect” in 2 homocide cases?

  193. basherette // June 27, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Hurm, that reminds me… wasn’t one of my queries to JB about DP belonging to “dating” (and I use that term out of politeness) websites?

    And didn’t he say:

    2. Not a member, that I know of. He does browse the web and these type of sites do pop up and are in unsolicited e-mails, but he is not actively seeking an intimate personal relationship right now, and certainly not through the internet.

    Darn those bloody pop ups!!!
    ———————————————————-

    HEHE! Now, that is funny. Bash-you did good. I wonder how many of those pop-ups would catch other men (and I use that term losely) handling stuft animals? What are the odds of that?

  194. 2. Not a member, that I know of. He does browse the web and these type of sites do pop up and are in unsolicited e-mails, but he is not actively seeking an intimate personal relationship right now, and certainly not through the internet.
    ________________
    Key words: that I know of

    Check the photos … DP badge number.

  195. Hi everyone! I have been reading here for quite some time, but just now registered…. I have read here, and have never posted. So, I may just jump in from time to time….

  196. And other key words “not actively seeking an intimate personal relationship RIGHT NOW” … which means, as I sit her in front of him and type, he’s not on yahoo with Ashley.

    IMO

  197. This Ashley doesn’t sound like the sharpest tool in the shed. Seems to me if you saw what the media, blogs and forums said about “Little Miss Suntan” you’d stay as far away as being connected to DP romantically as possible.

  198. Well, she says she has not spoken to him since May 11 … and wasn’t it as of May 20 or so that he and Kim were no more?

    Could be Kim. Could be another pop up. 🙂

  199. I think my favorite part beside the “pop ups” is the word “unsolicited”.

    What does that mean? Does he treat the “soliciting” ones differently?

    Do they get dinner *and* a movie?

    Flowers or a nice cell phone, maybe?

    Perhaps he shows them via cam something more *special* to hold in his hand than a stuffed animal?

    Who is he kidding? He *is* a friggin’ stuffed animal…

    I am completely creeped out by this conceited cop’s cam crap…

  200. noway406 // June 27, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    …which means, as I sit her in front of him and type, he’s not on yahoo with Ashley.
    *****

    “As I sit *her* in front of him”…

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Woo weeee… now THAT there is a funny!!!

  201. harleyjoey // June 27, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Hi everyone! I have been reading here for quite some time, but just now registered…. I have read here, and have never posted. So, I may just jump in from time to time….

    ————————————-

    Welcome harleyjoey! I read here a lot too, but don’t post much. Sometimes I chime in though, just depends. It’s been kinda boring lately, just waiting for the arrest at this point. I wish they would get a move on! 🙂

  202. How DP explains the use of his stuffed animals online….

    5. So this one time after the kids went to bed, we…
    4. Really, I’ll buy you one just like it IF don’t start a blog.
    3. The fur on this toy…just like the hair on my back.
    2. Because of this, the chief said I could drive the K-9 squad
    1. Joel said he really like peanut butter.

  203. Welcome to the wonderfully wacky world of Word Press, Harleyjoey!

    Love the user name!

    Um… you’re not *really* a motorcycle riding kangaroo though, right? 🙂

    Don’t mind me. I’m the “wacky” here. 🙂

    I just like trying to figure out what someone’s user name means. 😉

  204. As for badge number, I found out that on Kathleen’s order of protection, the responding officer wrote Drew’s badge number instead of the home address, but it’s illegible. 959, 759 or 969.

    I already Googled these combined with Borderline Personality Disorder, I mean BPD, but came up with nada.

    For the record, I’m not trying to figure out his email address in order to write him a love letter. I was hoping that there might be a few unsolicted popup Internet Dating caches to be mined…

  205. there is an ebay buyer by the name bpd959 and they last feedback they left for a buyer was oct.26 07. Seems most of the items were for a girl and harley stuff.

  206. Dang it, Bash! I was hoping nobody would see that typo!

    Or that everyone would be nice enough to let it slide. But it was a little Freudian maybe …

    Facs, one of the posters on the Ashley Chronicles asked about an ebay account with BPD959. FYI

  207. LOL
    I’m going to change my nic to “I know as much as iknoweverythinglol” … or is that too long? 😀

  208. LOL… y’all are so funny! At least i love when fun here…. TY for the warm welcomes….

    Not a kangaroo bash…. but yep, I do have a bike. … a harley… and yes am female. TY for the nice welcome….

    Pavlov… i also am waiting for an arrest… i believe it is coming.

    I hate to see what this does to the kids… they are the innocent victims here.

  209. Facs, I agree, that might have been when cass and stacy were doing the pictures on the computer. Very Sad.

  210. It’s very odd that Jeepers (Elroy’s girlfriend) would come, post, and run. We are all over the “egging” incident but it might be a good idea to look at all the characters that were at the neighbors house that night and for the weekend (not DP’s). It seems as if Mobile has been tending to the garden and partying with the group when Sharon was out of town. Why in the world does everyone at her house think that any stranger (and stranger) is a good character to have next door to the children? They seem to welcome anyone that gives them attention. IMO-a background check should be done on anyone that gets near this case or Sharon’s house. JMO. What if their instinct isn’t good, and they allow a freak to be there, spend the night and, never mind.

    Amanda is right-Give Stacy some dignity! She won’t get it from Drew, but the neighbors could set things straight in very little time. Do it for Stacy. Do it for the children.

    Noway-you really should consider changing your name because you do know more than I know. Or maybe I knowmorethanall?

    Ashley better be careful. Seriously.

  211. Wait, the day after their mommy dissapeared did Sharon take off for three days? No that was Drew. Kids didn’t need him. I am sure they spent alot of that time with Sharon thank god.

  212. tributelady1949 // June 27, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    try bpd959@aim.com…that should give you a clue to his e mail address..
    ___________
    Thanks, but I’m married and not dating right now. And as far as DP goes, that would be “not dating EVER.”

  213. Duckyone, I like my short name … well, here it’s longer but if I had to think too much about it, I’d be in real trouble.

    Why would Sharon have ANYONE babysit the kids? I mean, wouldn’t Drew be asking people to kid-sit?

  214. Did not mean it for dating silly…..Just a small clue to what was posted on Ashleys blog. The part that is blacked out that is.

  215. Ducky are you serious:

    “Why in the world does everyone at her house think that any stranger (and stranger) is a good character to have next door to the children? ”

    Why does anyone think that their own father is a good character to have around any children? I guess I don’t understand your logic???

  216. Oh, thank goodness! I thought since Ashley wasn’t seeing him, some of Drew’s friends might be trying to find someone new! 😀

    I’m wondering why she bothered to black anything out … people have that info anyway. Or figured it out. Maybe for legal purposes … to cover her backside?

  217. Duckyone, some people just believe the garden is a good thing, and no amount of talking will change their minds.

    Some people believe that opening Sharon’s house to anyone who wants to bring flowers to the garden is also a good idea.

    Some people believe that offering autographs for $20 to anyone who comes to his door is a good idea.

    And some would disagree with all of that. IMO

    🙂

  218. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    It’s very odd that Jeepers (Elroy’s girlfriend) would come, post, and run. We are all over the “egging” incident but it might be a good idea to look at all the characters that were at the neighbors house that night and for the weekend (not DP’s).
    _____________
    What weekend? The weekend Stacy disappeared?

    Do any of you really believe that ISP has not looked into who was where that weekend?

    I am confused.

  219. Something else I just wanted to mention….
    we are DINKS (double income – no kids)

    My hubby and I both have Harley’s. They are not cheap.

    I have friends who are cops, firemen, …. etc…. public servants…

    I used to live in the chicago area, and I know that a COP on ANY PD cannot afford 2 harley’s…….. unless…. oh, I will leave the unless to your imaginations.

  220. harley-yes, I am serious.

    To whoever asked if Sharon had Mobile babysit (the group) last weekend, maybe that was her intent. 🙂

    Noway-yes, keep you name. IMO, I would disagree with having riff-raff in my house at any time.

    Poor kids need someone that really cares about their feelings and what is good for them. It seems like everyone has lost sight of the reason that they are here and there. The site isn’t even updated for the searches this weekend, but I’m sure that they are all watering. IMO

  221. I dunno… I am going to bed… I don’t want to be in this drama…..

    Rescue is to me a very wise person, and i agree with most of her posts. She, along with CFS, Noway, facsmiley, and freedom (yep you too) , BASH, and others I may have not mentioned…. can hold decent conversation. I don’t want to be a part of the drama… have fun!

  222. Noway-No, it was last weekend after the egging incident. Sharon took a little vacation and the clan partied at her house, Mobile included. Dang, I really need to be clearer. Sorry

  223. From what I have read there someone who is talking about spitting and plants or flowers. I thought this was a blog about the case?

  224. harley-what drama? Why is it when someone tells the truth and asks legitimate questions, it’s considered drama?

    Mobile sleeping at Sharon’s for a weekend is not drama, it’s disturbing. JMO. People keep bringing up the children and then they run when you ask them of the actions that the children are witnessing outside of their own home. Don’t these people understand that they have enough going on inside their home?

  225. hookedonfauxnics // June 27, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    From what I have read there someone who is talking about spitting and plants or flowers. I thought this was a blog about the case?
    —————————————————–

    Huh? I missed that phonics class. hehe

  226. Drama 101 is down the hall, turn left at SYM (cause the majority hate the right), go past the “Under Construction” sign (FSP), hang a right at the women’s restroom (there’s too many sites that would fit here that I can’t choose just one), and then take the stairs to the sub-basement. You should head toward the farthest corner, where you should find someone chatting on a computer with impressionable teenagers, using his web cam whilst holding his stuffed animal in his hand (that would be DP). And if he’s got anything else in his hand, I don’t wanna know about it.

  227. Ducky, with all due respect, who Sharon allows in her home is none of your business. Why are wasting your time on it, and our time posting about it? I’ve been reading this nonsense to two house trying to catch up. Can’t you get off of it and on to something else?

  228. I would just water the plants or flowers, I can’t imagine having enough spit to keep them alive.

    Doesn’t Drew like cameras? I thought I saw picture in the newspaper where he is holding one?

  229. I meant to say that I have reading for two hours, sorry.

    Ducky you’ve made your point and most of us get what you say. Why beat a dead horse?

  230. I have to say that it does strike me as a baroque twist when people are more concerned about who the neighbors have to visit than what’s going on at the murder suspect’s house.

  231. Sorry cfs. Can you get off my back and get onto something else? I would say that if the gawkers are going to post and report who is at Drew’s and where he is at, then all is fair. Don’t you know?

  232. hookedonfauxnics // June 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Doesn’t Drew like cameras? I thought I saw picture in the newspaper where he is holding one?
    ****************
    Ashley would probably tell you that Drew is fond of cameras, and doesn’t mind if the interior of his private residence and doings of his minor children are broadcast out to the Internet.

  233. basherette // June 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Drama 101 is down the hall, turn left at SYM (cause the majority hate the right), go past the “Under Construction” sign (FSP), hang a right at the women’s restroom (there’s too many sites that would fit here that I can’t choose just one), and then take the stairs to the sub-basement. You should head toward the farthest corner, where you should find someone chatting on a computer with impressionable teenagers, using his web cam whilst holding his stuffed animal in his hand (that would be DP). And if he’s got anything else in his hand, I don’t wanna know about it.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    have to repost this a couple of times

  234. FindStacyPeterson.com-still not updated about the searches tomorrow. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone only concentrated on finding Stacy? You won’t find her at the neighbor’s, although she was rumored to be there.

  235. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Sorry cfs. Can you get off my back and get onto something else? I would say that if the gawkers are going to post and report who is at Drew’s and where he is at, then all is fair. Don’t you know?
    ****************
    I’d say it’s only fair if you make sure to report who is visiting at the neighbor’s on the other side of Drew as well. It’s equal in significance.

  236. I agree that is sort of obsessive to write about for two hours.

    Hey. I have an idea. Instead of writing about it here, that person could create their own blog and write about it ad nauseam.

    That way, the people here could continue and talk about the case.

  237. basherette // June 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Drama 101 is down the hall, turn left at SYM (cause the majority hate the right), go past the “Under Construction” sign (FSP), hang a right at the women’s restroom (there’s too many sites that would fit here that I can’t choose just one), and then take the stairs to the sub-basement. You should head toward the farthest corner, where you should find someone chatting on a computer with impressionable teenagers, using his web cam whilst holding his stuffed animal in his hand (that would be DP). And if he’s got anything else in his hand, I don’t wanna know about it.
    *******************

    Well, it IS after 11:00 p.m. (Central Time) so…

  238. Harley welcome thanks for the kind words!
    great bike weather huh? enjoy!!

    mobile is sleeping at sharon’s when she’s out of town? or is even hanging out at sharon’s.
    what kind of fresh hell is this! holy batshit!
    geesh this really is a full circle circus with LOTS of NUTS!
    sigh those poor kids can’t win for losing!

    take care all I’ve had enough of this circus!
    Hopefully Stacy will be found and justice will be served as our founding fathers wrote the constitution !
    I sure hope it’s soon before many go totally wacko and the next headline I read is about someone else going ballistic on pheasant chase.
    or internet stalker attacks rival poster at the mall!
    keep it real!

    Harley welcome thanks for the kind words!

  239. Well I have to admit my ears perked up when I heard Mobiles name. He is pretty cool and he looks for Stacy with gods help.

  240. hookedonfauxnics // June 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Hey. I have an idea. Instead of writing about it here, that person could create their own blog and write about it ad nauseam.
    *********

    Or their own forums…

  241. I would guess it is more interesting to law enforcement who is going in and out of Drew’s house probably, and I know, reach with me now, because he is a murder suspect?

    I know, I know, crazy, but I’m just taking a wild guess and wanted to toss it out there.

    Now, as far as I know, I do not believe Sharon is murder suspect. I’m a little behind in the news, but that hasn’t changed right?

  242. Sorry Freedom-Don’t go to far. The nuts here, including me, like your posts. Holy batshit is right. I guess that we have to report on the empty house for sale to make it all even. Really? Last time I looked, the only people on that street that have no dignity for Stacy is the pretend “best” friend.

    BTW-yes, it’s the truth. I don’t give a darn what anyone does as long as it can’t hurt the kids. IMO, the behavior in and outside of both homes is disgusting. I do believe that Drew did the unspeakable to both Kathleen and Stacy, but it doesn’t excuse the other behavior.

    WHY ISN’T THE WEBSITE UPDATED? Hey phonics-can you answer why the most important thing isn’t updated? Maybe, someone else? Are there searches tomorrow?

  243. I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncrotollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?

  244. I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncontrollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?

  245. Hurm, far as I know, the only murder Sharon could possibly be accused of is the occasional murder of the English language.

    Least that’s what I thought before I saw JB’s written words…

    If that was a death penalty crime, he’d of been fried long ago…

  246. I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncontrollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?

  247. See what just happened, I think I got OCD from reading the same stuff over and over again! I just posted the same thing twice and I didn’t mean too!

    This is nuts! Is it contagious?

  248. Why do people here want to throw others off this blog because they have a different opinion? I would think that any and all ideas were welcome.

    Well, this duck is here to stay. So, if you don’t like it, you can leave. I like everyone and enjoy different ideas and opinions. It must be a maturity thing, and I am old.

  249. Cool beans! 🙂

    It’s comforting to know I’m not the only person here who’s computer burps out 2 or more copies of the same dang post when I least expect it!

  250. hooked and iknoweverythinglol-you might want to sign out of one before you post it 3 times. LMFAO! Well, that may be the reason why you keep agreeing with yourself. LOL!

  251. I only really know about the case. See, the case I know about.

    I could guess about why it might not be updated as well as you could.

    Now, wait.

    I just got another completely crazy idea.

    What if someone wanted to know why the website wasn’t updated and they contacted the actual website itself and asked them?

    Please, I’m trying to think outside the box here. Just stretch with me now.

  252. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Sorry cfs. Can you get off my back and get onto something else? I would say that if the gawkers are going to post and report who is at Drew’s and where he is at, then all is fair. Don’t you know?
    +++++++++++++++++

    duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    FindStacyPeterson.com-still not updated about the searches tomorrow. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone only concentrated on finding Stacy? You won’t find her at the neighbor’s, although she was rumored to be there.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    If you think everyone needs to concentrate on finding Stacy, then why are you concerned about who is at Sharon’s house?

    By the way, are you planning to seach this weekend? Is that why you’re so interested in the updates on FSP?

    My point is, if your intentions were what you want everyone else’s to be, then you would not be here bashing Sharon and FSP for what they’re doing or not doing. That seems to be all you want to talk about, which is your prerogative, but some of us don’t agree with it and are tired of reading it. Like Facs said, give what goes on over at Drew’s house equal time. If Drew was reallt concerned about Sharon’s house guests, he could install his own security system, or stay home with his kids instead of bar hopping all the time. Apparently he isn’t, as he hasn’t done either one.

    Bottom line Ducky, you get on someone else’s back on here (and you have tonight, with considerable rudeness) expect someone to get on yours, like it or not.

  253. duckyone // June 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    FindStacyPeterson.com-still not updated about the searches tomorrow. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone only concentrated on finding Stacy? You won’t find her at the neighbor’s, although she was rumored to be there.
    _________________________________
    How are we supposedto know when and where to show up and help search?? I thought we were supposed to be looking for missing mother and not gossiping in a garden.

  254. hookedonfauxnics // June 27, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    I agree that is sort of obsessive to write about for two hours.

    Hey. I have an idea. Instead of writing about it here, that person could create their own blog and write about it ad nauseam.

    That way, the people here could continue and talk about the case.
    +++++++++++++
    This is yet another aspect of the case. Just because the media doesn’t have the guts to report it for fear of being cut off from the $haron shrine, doesn’t mean it isn’t important. You discuss what you’d like, and we’ll do the same, and I’m sure if we’re outside the TOS for this blog, we’ll be notified. But really, your snark is not required to post here.

  255. Please, someone tell me Mobile is still not in the picture? And that he is nowhere near those children? I’m serious, that man makes me so nervous and uneasy.

    As for the shrine. I think Sonia idea was pure of heart, but it exploded. And notice whom helped make it what it is today? Julie did, she loved to taking create for it.

    I agree with most other’s that it belongs elsewhere, not in Sharon’s front yard. And nobody can tell me what those kids are thinking, other then themselves. Just because you have seen them smiling, doesn’t mean they are smiling at the shrine, or any of the people there.

  256. Wow Hooked!!! That is really a great idea!!! If I had a question about the searches you are saying maybe I should ask the people having the searches??????????? Wow, that is deep.

  257. Well, all I can really do is sit on my arse, trying to be helpful by finding links/info for the wonderful ladies and gents here.

    My G*d- I’m a virtual librarian! Oh, the horror… the shame…:0

  258. Kimmer, why would the media be afraid of being cut off from the shriners?

    Frick, I must have missed an article or post…

  259. And I thought Elroy was married? Someone mentioned that someone is his girlfriend, anyone know which it is, or does he have both?

  260. hookedonfauxnics // June 27, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncontrollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?
    ________________________________
    iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncontrollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?
    _________________________________
    Boy its kinda funny that these posts were supposedly written by two different people but are exactly the same. Kinda makes you wonder huh. Hooked have you ever met Iknow?? LOL

  261. basherette // June 28, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Kimmer, why would the media be afraid of being cut off from the shriners?

    Frick, I must have missed an article or post…
    ++++++++++++++++
    This story has been passed to media outlet to media outlet. Joe Hosey went and asked the questions because he was going to do a story. All of the sudden there was a big stink on FSP to get a letter campaign going to get him booted from the case. I’ve emailed Danya, as well as others with the same info…not so much as an email response.

  262. Check this out iknoweverythinglol, I actually found an email address on the findstacypeterson.com site where you could actually contatc them yourself!
    Can you believe the luck? Wow!

    I mean that way, you don’t have to come here to ask, which is not place that conducts the searches as far as I know, right? They just report important stuff abou the case, like the grand jury appearances.

    Isn’t that phenomenal?

  263. Cfs-I can say what I want, when I want and if Gatehouse doesn’t like it, they will notify me. I am not bashing anyone, just asking the questions. If you don’t have the answers, then you can just skip over it. Just like if you don’t like my posts, skip over them. I despise Drew Peterson and I firmly believe that he killed Kathleen and Stacy. The FSP website was notified and I received no answer regarding the searches today.

    Neither you, nor anyone else will run me off and I will say what I wish as long as it’s in Gatehouse rules. If Gatehouse gives out my IP address or gives my personal infomation, then I will handle that in an appropriate manner.

    Again, you don’t like me or my posts, don’t read them.

  264. one side ………..I kill my wifes

    other side……….I have a flower shrine

    I think i will stay over here
    with the flowers

  265. I felt horrible for Sonia. She did something so nice, and I remember reading how excited she was to be coming to Bolingbrook, and all the work she put into the flowers etc.

    Within that one day, she was pushed aside, and it turned into a freak show.

    Flowers are lovely, memorials are lovely, but they all have a place, and it not in one’s front yard.

    My personal opinion, it looks like crap now, all this stuff just laying around, with “Survivor” like Tiki torchs….ackkkkkk!!!!

  266. iknoweverythinglol // June 28, 2008 at 12:07 am

    one side ………..I kill my wifes

    other side……….I have a flower shrine

    I think i will stay over here
    with the flowers
    ———————————————————–
    Are you doing to post that 2 x’s under this name and 1 x under phonics? Just checking. It’s funny how you skipped over that question. LOL

    It’s not about one side or the other, it’s about SEARCHING FOR STACY! Your exact words are what worries most of us.

  267. car99 – interesting observation. Double nicks here?

    Also Bash – rumor had it that Sharon was giving out “special” info directly from the ISP about the case. I’m sure whether it’s true or not, the media won’t take a chance on getting cut off from that possibility.

  268. car99 // June 27, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    How are we supposedto know when and where to show up and help search?? I thought we were supposed to be looking for missing mother and not gossiping in a garden.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Do you honestly think anyone on here can answer that? Why don’t email somebody at that website? Geez, what is wrong with you people? I bet every single one of you that’s making such a big deal out of the site not being updated isn’t even planning on searching, could care less about them in the first place, and probably have never even been on a search. Geez!

  269. letthetruthbefree // June 28, 2008 at 12:09 am

    I felt horrible for Sonia. She did something so nice, and I remember reading how excited she was to be coming to Bolingbrook, and all the work she put into the flowers etc.

    Within that one day, she was pushed aside, and it turned into a freak show.

    Flowers are lovely, memorials are lovely, but they all have a place, and it not in one’s front yard.

    My personal opinion, it looks like crap now, all this stuff just laying around, with “Survivor” like Tiki torchs….ackkkkkk!!!!
    _________________________________

    I agree. It quickly turned into a freak show. Next thing you know they will be charging admission to see the garden.

  270. I thought I heard that Elroy was married to a Kerry also, I could be wrong, but I kind of remember reading a post somewhere that she mentioned she was going to be searching and was excited to actually be spending a day with her husband.

  271. iknoweverythinglol // June 28, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Wow Hooked!!! That is really a great idea!!! If I had a question about the searches you are saying maybe I should ask the people having the searches??????????? Wow, that is deep
    ———————————————————–
    hookedonfauxnics // June 28, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Check this out iknoweverythinglol, I actually found an email address on the findstacypeterson.com site where you could actually contatc them yourself!
    Can you believe the luck? Wow!

    I mean that way, you don’t have to come here to ask, which is not place that conducts the searches as far as I know, right? They just report important stuff abou the case, like the grand jury appearances.

    Isn’t that phenomenal?
    ———————————————————-

    There is medicine that can cure your need to talk to yourself. I don’t know the name of it but I highly suggest that you check into anti-psychotic medicines. JMO

  272. iknoweverythinglol // June 27, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    I wonder why Drew would be showing his kid on a webcam?

    I missed this one while I was ferverently searching for any possible way to contact the findstacypeterson.com people.

    Now, why would anyone care about Drew camming his kids to strangers when there are dangerous flowers to be dealt with?

    You are just being plain silly now.

  273. iknoweverythinglol // June 28, 2008 at 12:07 am

    one side ………..I kill my wifes

    other side……….I have a flower shrine

    I think i will stay over here
    with the flowers
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    Are you doing to post that 2 x’s under this name and 1 x under phonics? Just checking. It’s funny how you skipped over that question. LOL

    It’s not about one side or the other, it’s about SEARCHING FOR STACY! Your exact words are what worries most of us.

  274. letthetruthbefree // June 28, 2008 at 12:13 am

    I thought I heard that Elroy was married to a Kerry also, I could be wrong, but I kind of remember reading a post somewhere that she mentioned she was going to be searching and was excited to actually be spending a day with her husband.
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    Elroy’s girlfriend is Carrie. Not married. Poor girl to get excited about spending a day with her man by searching. I guess the night before he was to busy sippin’.

  275. cfs7360 // June 28, 2008 at 12:11 am

    car99 // June 27, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    How are we supposedto know when and where to show up and help search?? I thought we were supposed to be looking for missing mother and not gossiping in a garden.
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    Do you honestly think anyone on here can answer that? Why don’t email somebody at that website? Geez, what is wrong with you people? I bet every single one of you that’s making such a big deal out of the site not being updated isn’t even planning on searching, could care less about them in the first place, and probably have never even been on a search. Geez!
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    Good grief. Who took away your lollipop?? I was stating my opinion.

  276. I know, I don’t know where I ghet these crazy ideas from. But it would just seem like people who do not want to discuss the case keep coming here and saying the same things.

    It’s really weird. Is that like obsessive compulsive disorder, because I see medication advertised for that stuff on televison all the time.

    It really works for some people. I guess they have this uncrotollable urge to do this repetive behavior all the time – it’s not their fault, it’s a real condition.

    I hope they can get help. Do you think they see the ads on televison?

  277. duckyone // June 28, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Cfs-I can say what I want, when I want and if Gatehouse doesn’t like it, they will notify me. I am not bashing anyone, just asking the questions. If you don’t have the answers, then you can just skip over it. Just like if you don’t like my posts, skip over them. I despise Drew Peterson and I firmly believe that he killed Kathleen and Stacy. The FSP website was notified and I received no answer regarding the searches today.

    Neither you, nor anyone else will run me off and I will say what I wish as long as it’s in Gatehouse rules. If Gatehouse gives out my IP address or gives my personal infomation, then I will handle that in an appropriate manner.

    Again, you don’t like me or my posts, don’t read them.
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    Ducky, this is the last time I’m addressing you about this, but you just go right ahead and say whatever you want, which I did happen to say in my post, was your prerogative. But if I don’t agree with it, I will do exactly as you….say what I want, when I want and you can skip over it as well if you don’t like it. Goes both ways.

    Do you really think someone is trying to “run you off” this board? Do you really think Gatehouse would give out your IP address? Are you THAT suspicious of and paranoid about everyone, that you you think someone is out to get you for something? Or even Drew’s kids by the neighbors’ visitors next door? This is a public forum, and anyone has the right to post their opinion here, as long as they follow the rules set by Gatehouse. Not one single member here can run you off this board, and I seriously doubt anyone would even try. You need to get over that Ducky. There aren’t any boogey men here.

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