Your Thread – June 29

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  1. I hope you all get my post.

    It wasn’t the first link like Gatehouse thought it would be. It was at the end. But maybe it will move up?

  2. It took so long to post that link … and I missed anything anybody said at the end, but I don’t want to go back.

    Nobody can make me!

  3. Rescue, I have thought that over and over in my head about the kids and who will get custody of them. I do believe I heard Stephen was to get them.

    In one respect I wish he and his wife would move into Drew’s home and not completely uproot the kids, but it might also be best for them to get away from it all.

    I’m very conflicted on the kids.

  4. I’m being naughty- now I’m looking for all of the links of DP and JB vehemently protesting the very idea that they would ever write a book and badmouthing Hosey (whom, I believe, actually does deserve some of their wrath, but that’s beside the point)…

    Even better… I believe that this was one of the queries that JB answered on BM’s forum, was it not? 🙂

    Yipper, right up the Walla Walla, Washington, BM!

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! (<— that’s my evil sounding laughter)

  5. That’s tough.

    I don’t know what I think there.

    The stability that they had there … friends and neighbors. They are going to need that no matter what happens.

    Starting new isn’t going to be good. And with the name Peterson, they are not going to be unknown wherever they go.

    I just don’t know …

  6. noway – thanks for the link.

    basherette – you’ll be quite busy. Do share. Start with Nancy Grace. He spewed that line on her show.

  7. Well, I saved all of Joel’s replies to the QA. Not all his posts but if it was asked and he answered it …

    I’m sure it was something like “No book deal has been signed at this time.” or something along those lines.

    Are you looking? I don’t mean to be lazy, but I am. This is way past my bedtime !

  8. And I also wonder if Drew can stipulate that the kids are NOT to see anyone from Stacy’s family until the outcome of a trial?

    I know Grandparents have some rights, but I dont see Papa Cales screaming to see the kids.

  9. He’s their father, unfortunately there is no disputing that, so he decides who sees them and who does not.

    IMO a third party should decide what is best for the kids. Their mothers are dead and missing … I would think family contact would be important to their well-being.

    Say … did Gatehouse ever post our questions? Not that I am begrudging them the sleep they need … and Ashley took my mind off that … I can wait until next week. I guess. 😉

  10. facs, what was the date of that reply?

    It’s true there is no book contract … just a disclure contract.

    Important lesson: Never take a Joel Brodsky answer at face value.

  11. Don’t you all think most of the character’s in the case have been contacted by some publishing companies for their stories?

  12. Where’s Ms. Basherette???? Still looking for facts?

    I do know that JB told his partner that this case was going to get them all book deals. Wonder if they contacted anyone else. I’d they did, especially if this writer turned them down.

  13. Most likely man of them have been contacted, but it sounds like they contacted him. Did you get that impression?

  14. facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 12:47 am

    JB’s quote on the Q&A was:

    “There is no book deal, signed or otherwise. “
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    True ONLY because they can’t find anyone to write what they want them to write.

  15. I got the impression they contacted the Author and Publisher, but could that be from a return call, I don’t know.

    I do know that publishers are like lawyers, slimy!!! lol

  16. LLTBF – well, in this case, darlin’, the dynamic duo are the ones doing the contacting, it seems. What does that tell you?

    Oh, and Brodsky and Peterson – you are making people sick, including true crime writers!!!! Got that?

  17. I do remember early on how pissed Cassandra was when she got wind that Mark Furhman would possibly be writing a book about this. But lately he’s been pretty quiet about this case, as far as I can tell.

  18. Can we make a pact, if I admit that I’m horrible with spelling and grammar, you will just accept that?

    Please? I missed that gene in the gene pool…..:(

  19. I need to brush up on my proofreading. Too lazy to do it. Of course, being tired counts too.

    Guess I’ll turn in soon.

  20. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #27 on May 16, 2008, 10:51am »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Here we go with answers:
    Dandelion at 6:49: (1) There is no book deal, signed or otherwise. (2) Kathy’s family has never had anything to do with her boys. Their grandfather only meet them once and that was at Kathy’s funeral. The rest of the family has almost no contact before Kathy died and none after, not a birthday or christmas card, not a phone call. Nothing. (and now they want to file a wrongful death case on behalf of the boy’s!) (3) Drew and his son Eric are not as close as his other sons and daughter, but it has nothing to do with Kathy’s death.
    ______________
    Just pulled his whole reply.

    These were the questions asked:
    And here there are some more Qs!

    *According to papers, Drew signed (some sort of) a book deal. Are there any timelines on that one? Like when it’s the book to be ready for print…

    *Stacy used to take the older boys to visit her grandpa quite often. Have the boys been in contact with Kathy’s family since she died? (If no, why? Have the boys expressed their wish to see them?)

    *Is there any truth in the rumor across some forums that the oldest son of drew’s (the one which is not a police officer) is not speaking with Drew since Kathy’s death? Was that son asked to testify in front of the GJ?

  21. Hurm…

    The two teens have not really had a chance to become close to the Savio family, have they? So perhaps Steve, though it galls me to say such a thing, and his wife wouldn’t be such an upset for them to be taken in by. I know that Kathleen’s family will most likely want to raise them, but I’m not sure how comfortable they’d feel emotionally. They are grieving for 2 mothers, and G*d help them if Stacy did know anything about Kathleen’s suspicious death. How comfortable and healthy would it be for the adopted children of 2 murdered mums, one of which possibly knew the other had been murdered, feel living with the loving family of their 1st mum, while they are grieving and dealing with the fact that their daughter was murdered and her successor knew about it? Would the Savios feel betrayed if the teens mourned Stacy as well as Kathleen, and would they be able to support them as they mourned themselves?

    Can of worms, that.

    With the younger two bairns, I honestly just do not know. If Cassandra wasn’t so young for such a long term responsibility, I’d like to see her take them in and raise them to maturity. Little Lacy looks so much like Cassandra- has anyone else noticed that? The fact that Cassandra did spend an enormous amount of time with Stacy and the bairns would help them make the transition from one home to another, if it comes to that.

    The aunt, Candace Aikin, would also be a good choice, as she has been able to spend some time with the children on her visits, so they know her reasonably well, considering their ages, also. That’s one thing the wee ones have going for them that is both positive and negative- they are possibly too young to comprehend or contemplate the magnitude of their situation (which reads like a bloody Greek or one of Wills’ tragedies), so they will adapt quite a bit better when faced with any lifestyle changes they face. On the other hand, they most likely will not personally remember much at all about their mum, but will really only get to “know” her via pics, home films, stories from relatives, etc. A double-edged sword for them, that.

    Plus, for *all* of the children, the *one* constant, sure thing in their lives, from their conception until now, has been their father, and he will, in a manner that may seem quite *sudden* to the children, NOT be around anymore. Way to go, ftardius!

    No matter what happens, I hope they all get the help they will need to survive such a traumatic upbringing…

    Dang, I bet this post is too long…

  22. Nobody asked about a disclosure agreement for a book deal … so by saying there was “no book deal, signed or otherwise,” I suppose he was telling the truth.

    True to his word, I haven’t seen a word from Joel on SYM since his comment about ‘a women scorned’ …

    I think I’ll head to bed after taking one more look at the Ashley Chronicles. 😉

  23. Noway – I see that was on 5/16. No book deal, but left out the part that they’re shopping around for one.

    Still think there’s others out there. Maybe a second round of questions to JB about this would be a good idea.

  24. I know from personal expierence, my Mom’s parents were killed when she was 9. There was a total of 6 people killed, and that left many children without parents, but all related. At that time, they really didn’t have custody courts etc. She was asked whom she wanted to live with and she choice her Aunt, her brother on the other hand, choice another Aunt and Uncle.

    My Mom was treated as one of them, she was very well adjusted, college etc.

    My Uncle on the other hand, didn’t have it as easy, and by the time he came to the Aunt that raised my Mom, he was already a handful, and he’s been that way his entire life.

    So it really does make a difference, and I just hope this has all been thought out, very carefully.

  25. BAsh, I know where your comming from . MY best friend past away when she was 30 and left 3little ones all girls the oldest was 7yrs old and the other 2 where like 2 and 5 .. they are know 18 , and so on …. she had an anurisum (dam can’t spell tonight) one has cerebral palsy .

    the dad raised them and still did not remarrie cause he wants someone like her….. still to this day… but .He has told me that they don’t remember her to well cause of being so young but shown pictures and videos as your saying for stacy and kathleens kids .. that will help them a great deal with whom there moms where and what they looked like… ( the oldest of my friend daughter looks just like her ) just as you say lacy looks like cass and I* agree with you on that …

  26. wish there was an edit button on here darn it
    I ment to say my friend died of an aneurysm .. hope ya understood what I ment….lol

  27. Here’s another question.

    When a parent passes away before the child is of a certain age, the children are entitled to Social Security benefits.

    I guess the courts would have to rule Stacy dead in order for them to get them from her, but what about if Drew is convicted, are they entitled to any benefits, if Mom is nowhere to be found, and Dad is in prison?

  28. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Here’s another question.

    When a parent passes away before the child is of a certain age, the children are entitled to Social Security benefits.

    I guess the courts would have to rule Stacy dead in order for them to get them from her, but what about if Drew is convicted, are they entitled to any benefits, if Mom is nowhere to be found, and Dad is in prison?
    ————————————-

    YES they are intitled to those benifits . but I not sure but when a parent is convicted of a crime I believe they will go by the mothers and not the father

  29. Goodnight, Friends! Happy dreams!

    (P.S.- YES, if their father was convicted of murdering either one or both of his wives, the children WOULD receive SS death payments- 1 lump sum, and then monthly payments afterwards until they reach the age of majority)

    (P.P.S.- That happens to be similar to another query I asked JB, but got the answer for myself. So phooey on him!)

  30. Addendum to the P.S. above- Anthony and Lacy would *not* get SS benefits if DP is convicted of killing Kathleen, but *not* Stacy. In that case, they would have to wait for the Court to declare their mother dead, and *then* they would receive the SS death stipends.

    And, of course, if DP himself expires before any convictions, or before Stacy has been declared dead by the Court, the children would receive SS death stipends via his death, as long as they are under the age of majority. If both parents have died, there will be two payments. In the case of Thomas and Kristopher, they would most likely be receiving 3 if that happens.

  31. Egads, this is such a tragedy for those innocent children, that it is much too staggering for me, even at the age I am, to comprehend the magnitude of…

  32. I’m just catching up with everyone……………

    On the last thread, someone asked about the grand jury and why they haven’t indicted yet.

    I think they were taking their time – dragging their heels so to speak – waiting for the hearsay bill to be signed and become law before they indicted.

    Now that the Supreme Court has ruled against the California hearsay law (which Illinois patterned their law after), they may not be able to hold out for a revised law. The Illinois legislature is on break until November, and it could be several more months after that before they come up with a revised bill for the hearsay law.

  33. Anyhoot, I’m catching up on reading all of the posts now…

    Came across this, somehow missed it the fray, & thought I’d answer it:

    noway406 // June 28, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Mobile is okay. He suffers from a form of autism (not sure what it is but will find PM if you want). I admit he freaked me out as a poster, but a poster who actually met him put me at ease.
    ********

    I believe the type of autism he has is “Asperger’s Syndrome”, at least that’s what I remember from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when. One of my sons is severely autistic, so that’s prolly why the info stuck in my brain. Here’s a link if you’d like to read a bit more about it:

    http://w ww.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html

  34. I think I’ve figured out why I got banned from SYM:

    My verbal Mapquest direction on how to get to “Drama 101″…

    Mmm, naah- I *knew* I should have taken that right turn at Albuquerque! 🙂

  35. bash you are so right about the children. ive thought lots on this. who will take these 4? so freaking tangled for sure. i remember at fsp before steve p got in trouble that they all thought he would get them. before he got in trouble i asked well if hes the one why is there a pic of him on cass’s myspace that says dirty or bad cop. well that made the fspers mad that i asked. fast forward sp gets in trouble( which i feel the trouble was really nothing) they did a big turn saying no way in hell cass would let stevep get the kids.i hope whoever does get them love them, gets them help, lets them have happy days, because these 4 sure have been dealt a bad hand in life so far.

  36. Glad to see that Ashley changed her watermark. She happens to have the same name (or used the same name) as a 17 year old Illinois girl.

    She changed it in response to a post.

  37. For what it’s worth, BigM will be reevaluating the banning of members over the next few days, and if he feels he was wrong, he’ll email you and invite you to come back if you want.

    That’s paraphrasing but pretty close to what he said, I think. I closed down SYM before copying that and am in hurry (church) … BBL

  38. I just hope she is not “biting” off more then she wants to “chew” by doing this…
    and hope she makes sure to cover her proverbial you know what…

    I posted a thread on Stacy on my personal website blog…its still VERY quiet there, because I am just getting the site up, but I welcome those who would like to join me. I also have this blog (petersonstory) linked on there too…
    h t t p://swampwytch.com/blog/

  39. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 9:35 am

    For what it’s worth, BigM will be reevaluating the banning of members over the next few days, and if he feels he was wrong, he’ll email you and invite you to come back if you want.

    ********************

    That’s good to hear for those members that still wish to continue to participate over there. I think Basherette will appreciate that, since she is a very well informed, highly involved and openly honest individual that would continue to be a willing contributor over there if she is “allowed” to be a member.

  40. well i dont know if i would go back had i been banned. not sure if bash will either. i agree she is very well informed.

  41. Yeah, I agree feisty, but I also don’t think that banning people from signing on to read is very productive either.

    There’s many people on all sorts of blogs that read them every day, but aren’t comfortable posting. Merely assuming the “non-posting” members

  42. Yeah, I agree feisty, but I also don’t think that banning people from signing on to read is very productive either.

    There’s many people on all sorts of blogs that read them every day, but aren’t comfortable posting. Merely assuming the “non-posting” members are doing something nefarious by only reading, thus warranting their being banished, is just not right. But, the admin can do whatever he pleases, and, as with any blog, people being allowed to log-in only do so at his whim.

  43. oh i dont agree with his bannings at all. i read lots of places & post at a few. i was just saying if i was bash i dont know if i would go back there or not. cuz face it some people are easy to get confused.others arent. i never get bash confused with anyone else. she has her own style wit, humor & intelligence.i enjoy her posts alot. she stays the same which lots of ppl on here dont do.

  44. Will be tossing out an opinion here shortly that is related to things we discussed yesterday, but it’s a delicate matter and I need to give the composition a good deal of thought before I post. Don’t want to hurt ayone’s feeling or step too heavily on anyone’s toes. Be back shortly.

  45. feisty – we are all in agreement that Basherette should be a highly desired blogger no matter where she goes!

  46. Hey, Basherette, when you come back on today, I know you mentioned transcribing the radio interview from the investigative journalist Drew Peterson and Joel Brodsky contacted about writing a book (M. William Phelps (Matt)). If you don’t mind, could you post it here so those that haven’t listened to it can read it?

    Thanks!

  47. From Joel on SYM:
    The Denny Griffin internet radio interview with Matthew Phelps is a slanderous interview as it regards Drew Peterson, Glenn Selig and myself. Unless he issues a retraction immediately Mr. Phelps is about to get sued for slander and violation of the non-disclosure agreement he admitted he agreed to. Drew, myself and Glenn Selig did speak with Matt Phelps and his agent Peter Miller in a conference call for very preliminary discussions about the possibility of a book. The truth of Mr. Phelps’ statements pretty much stops there. (Mr. Phelps, your forgot that there were other witnesses on the phone didn’t you?). Mr. Phelps was brought in by his literary agent Mr. Peter Miller because Miller had told us he and Mr. Phelps were interested in doing a book on the Peterson case. We never sought out Mr. Phelps. There was no 2 to 3 hour interview, (not even remotely that long, only a fraction of that amount of time – the length of the call is documented on the conference calling system), we never discussed the editorial content of the book, we never asked him to trash anyone, we never asked him to put Kathy’s death on Stacy (why would we when it was an accident?), and in fact Drew said very little on the phone and never addressed Phelps directly as to any fact of the cases. (in fact I don’t even recall Drew speaking directly to Phelps, and Drew spoke very little if at all – this was a buisness call, not an interview). The one thing That is clear is that Mr. Phelps is lying about almost all of the phone conversation. In fact Mr. Phelps and Mr. Miller were very excited about the possibility of doing this project when we ended the conversation. I don’t know why Phelps is fabricating all of these statements, but if he doesn’t retract he is going to have to face some tough questioning down the line.

    More people lying about what went on … I’ll let you decide WHO is doing the lying.

    😉

  48. Hey Gatehouse, I have a question for you guys, since you are the media, LOL.

    If DP and JB gave an interview, such as they did to this true crime writer, what, exactly, does it mean when he says he is in a Disclosure Contract with them and can’t divulge what they said? I assume he is not able to go around freely discussing specifically what JB and DP said.

    He’s not hiding a source, so he doesn’t have an unidentified person to protect, as reporters do, but, as a reporter, can he be compelled to testify, and bring his recordings and notes, before the GJ?

    Just thought I’d ask because this is your playing field!

  49. And this (with my post):

    [quote author=joelbrodsky board=stacy thread=460 post=9974 time=1214756599]Look, in the interview Phelps admits he agreed to a non-disclosure, and then he goes and discloses (albiet falsely) what was said in the interview. What is that if not lying? He admits he lied to me, Glenn and Drew when he promised non-disclosure. [/quote]

    I don’t think he disclosed what was said … just that the offer had been discussed and what the topic was. I’m sure he followed the letter of the law with that nondisclosure. Just told us enough to get us interested. 😉

    Don’t bash victims. That would be some good advice for you, Glenn, and Drew to remember.

    IMO
    And with the respect you are due.

  50. noway – thank you for posting that.

    OMG, this is amazing. One side or the other is lying! What I would like to know, then, is why a journalist would expose himself like this and put his butt on the line by telling all these “lies,” as Joel Brodsky is now claiming.

    I am not going to begin to say I know the truth, but, IN MY OPINION, I don’t believe a word that comes out of either DP’s mouth or JB’s mouth.

    Why would this writer say he did a 3 hour interview, only to be lying?

    Rut roh. The proverbial you-know-what is going to hit the fan, thank you very much.

  51. Here it is again, at least the tease for the interview. It clearly states the interview was over a span of 2-3 hours.

    Drew Peterson

    Last night I hosted a half hour show called Crime Rant Live on Blog Talk Radio. My guests were true crime writers and investigative journalists M. William Phelps and Gregg Olsen. At about 23 minutes into the program Matt Phelps responded to a text question regarding Drew Peterson, the former Illinois police officer suspected in the death of one wife and the disappearance of another. It turned out that a few weeks ago Matt was contacted by Peterson’s lawyer about writing a book. He conducted a nearly three hour phone interview of Peterson and the lawyer.

    Although Matt couldn’t reveal all the details of the conversation, I found what he did say to be very interesting. And anyone who has followed this case probably will too. You can play back Matt’s comments from the archived show at BTR site http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dennisngriffin. Again, the relevant portion is about 23 minutes in.

    Denny

  52. Ah, I don’t remember Mr. Phelps disclosing what Peterson said, Mr. Brodsky. He merely said what the gist of the interview was, and that your client wanted the book to be written in his views, written to point out that KS was killed by SP, and he had plenty of “dish” on both to trash them.

  53. Oh rescue, it is clear in my mind who is lying. 😉

    How in the world did Drew Peterson, Super Cop, surround himself with all these people who lie?

    And he can’t get away from it! Even the crime writer “his people” choose is a liar?

    I. Don’t. Think. So.

  54. Ah, noway, we were desperately in need of some fireworks these days. I think this just about fits the bill, don’t you?

    I’ve sent all of this to Greta’s email to see if she’s going to p/u on it. We’ll see.

  55. Oh, and Brodsky says, out of both sides of his mouth:

    1) The guy is lying

    2) He’s violating a contract

    Which is it? If he’s lying, than he didn’t disclose the truth. Is that violating the contract?

    I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know the answer to that. But, I would like to hear what it is.

    Lying or violating a contract. Can it be both? Since Brodsky blows with the wind, it could be something all together different this evening.

    I hate when I lose my Secret Decoder Book. 🙂

  56. I think that Joel is saying that this guy agreed to a nondisclosure and then disclosed, so he “lied” about honoring the nondisclosure.

    But … my point is that there was such a book discussed … that’s not a lie. Was he never to disclose that they contacted them? I’m sure this guy looked carefully at the “letter of the law” regarding the disclosure agreement signed. If not, he’ll suffer the consequences, and maybe he realized that but just wanted the word out there about these slime balls.

    Yes, please do find that Secret Decoder Book!

  57. I wonder if there was a “written” non-disclosure agreement, since this all seemed to be done via phone. If not, a verbal agreements aren’t uually binding in a court of law, so a lawsuit would probably be futile. Just more empty threats maybe? But hey, Joel is the attorney. He should know way more about it than I do.

  58. What Matt Phelps did disclose is that Drew Peterson pretty much (my words) scared the bejeevers out of him with his cold, callous demeanor. Said the hair on the back of his neck stood up.

    I guess I can go back and do the transcription to post here, but I know that Bash did so already and forwarded it on the ISP last night, or should I say this morning. I’m kinda lazy about doing it myself. But, I will if I don’t see Bash on here later.

  59. Noway – is it the first JB heard about it when you asked, or did he already know about it from reading it here?

    Ah, but I suppose you probably wouldn’t know that. Hope he read it here first!!!! Just goes to show you which blog rules!

  60. Oh, and noway, did he happen to address the part where he emphatically told NG that there were no book deals, either done or in the works, all whilst they were shopping around for one? Suppose he’s got the usual mumbo jumbo lawyer speak to say about that too.

  61. I guess I should have said wirtten and signed. And yes Noway….lots of fireworks….way more than I ever expected, lol.

    Storming here….may have to shut down.

  62. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    I’m sure this guy looked carefully at the “letter of the law” regarding the disclosure agreement signed.
    *******************

    I think that he thought about it and maybe discussed with some legal counsel before he spoke. If you listen to the interview it sounds as if there were hints about the discussion for weeks and only at this point was Phelps ready to talk about it on the air.

  63. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Oh, and noway, did he happen to address the part where he emphatically told NG that there were no book deals, either done or in the works, all whilst they were shopping around for one? Suppose he’s got the usual mumbo jumbo lawyer speak to say about that too.
    ***************************

    Knowing Joel’s MO, he’ll simply ignore that question if asked.

  64. What I also noticed is that Matt Phelps was responding to a “text message.” So, maybe it was a text message that had been sent, thought about as far as how to answer, and responded to. It wasn’t one of those instant call-ins.

    Well, I am going to go back and read noway’s post of what JB said about this again. I find it very interesting.

    Fireworks!

  65. Anybody know if one of the people who was “accused” last night of being a mod on that other site is still a member and/or still posting, or are they ex-members too? No names please. Just asking.

  66. cfs -You know, that never came up, but, other than being caught up in the sweep, what would be the reason for them to be cut-off at the knees too? They didn’t do anything to warrant that, IMO.

  67. Joel just posted that first quote (the long one) on his own. I don’t know if someone emailed him stuff or if he was reading SYM and saw that Ex had posted it.

    cfs 😉

  68. cfs – still, I know admins can do as they please, but banishing people merely because they only “read” their board is bordering on insane. Think about it. If JB wants to get his points across to doubting bloggers, what good is it if he’s only speaking to the ones that agree with him? How is he going to sway anyone over to his side if the naysayers are banned?

    I’m just sayin…….

  69. I certainly don’t agree with banning people because they only choose to read. It can be quite intimidating to post on a board especially if you don’t agree with the views of the admin (or the views you think the admin has).

    I’m going for a quick swim … pretty hot outside but my kids and hubby want me. BBL

    And, just for the record, I’m not a mod on SYM. I know Sal posted that but if you want to go to the source … 😀

  70. Thank you noway.

    Once, in the past, I had emailed a Peterson/Brodsky fiasco of the day to Greta, and she posted it for discussion on her blog. I’m checking to see if she’ll do that today, but it’ll depend on a number of factors. If the email must get forwarded to her from a central location, say. Or, maybe weekend emails don’t even get looked at until Monday. Or, maybe she won’t think it worthy of doing so. We’ll see.

  71. Cfs-I hope that is wasn’t my joke about Noway being a mod that you are referring to? It was just a joke. If it was me that you are talking about, the quacker is still here.

    I wonder how JB is going to spin this one. They just keep digging deeper and deeper. Did anyone mention the lie detector that DP refused to take?

  72. IMO people like Greta and Geraldo and Nancy keep an eye on things even when on vacation or off for the weekend.

    If not personally, someone has been instructed to contact them if anything hits the Internet or news …

    That’s what makes them pros.

    😀

  73. I just emailed NG about the Ashley webcam with Anthony in the photo and the book deal offer. I hope that she follows up with something this week. Those poor kids! How much do you want to bet that DP had that conversation about the book deal with the children around?

  74. Ducky, no, no, no. This has nothing to do with you at all. Someone else said someone was a mod (not Noway) but they weren’t, and then Sal came on to set everyone straight about who was who on there. I think is was Letthetruth who was talking about it without going back to read everything. And by they way, good to hear you quacking this afternoon. 😀

  75. I don’t think you can tell someone you commited a crime and try to hold them to a non disclouser. The law does not work that way for authors.

  76. ducky – no, noway didn’t come back with any revelations about DP being asked by the writer to take a lie detector test, only to refuse. He just responded to the fact that this writer “disclosed” being in discussions with JB, DP and Selig, the PR guy.

    I’m still hoping BASHERETTE WILL WAKE UP and post her transcription of the actual discussion on the radio. 🙂

  77. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    cfs – still, I know admins can do as they please, but banishing people merely because they only “read” their board is bordering on insane. Think about it. If JB wants to get his points across to doubting bloggers, what good is it if he’s only speaking to the ones that agree with him? How is he going to sway anyone over to his side if the naysayers are banned?

    I’m just sayin…….
    ++++++++++++

    My sentiments exactly.

  78. Oh, how I wish we had a resident attorney who could answer our questions in a fair and balanced way. Not skewed to make everyone who passes through Drew Peterson’s life garbage, the way they do.

  79. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Ducky, no, no, no. This has nothing to do with you at all. Someone else said someone was a mod (not Noway) but they weren’t, and then Sal came on to set everyone straight about who was who on there. I think is was Letthetruth who was talking about it without going back to read everything. And by they way, good to hear you quacking this afternoon.
    ————————————————————
    Ok. Good. I didn’t listen to the radio show until this morning. Wow, a new low for DP and JB. I didn’t think it was possible.

    Cfs-nice to see you too. What was your theory or opinion? I’m anxious to see it.

  80. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 12:58 pm said:

    Ducky, no, no, no.

    =================

    LOL, should have started Ducky, quack, quack, quack, and then no, no, no.

  81. I think BM will start letting people back in as soon as he figures out who said he was bald. I am sure he has all his resources on it now.

  82. Joel keeps saying Matt Phelps “agreed to” and “promised.” Does that sort of tell you there is probably no written and signed agreement on this? I may be wrong, but if there were, you would think Joel would be stating ” an agreement his signed” or a signed non-disclosure” but you don’t see that. Joel, ALWAYS, ALWAYS get in writing. Verbal statements are not enforceable in a court of law in most cases.

  83. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Oh, how I wish we had a resident attorney who could answer our questions in a fair and balanced way. Not skewed to make everyone who passes through Drew Peterson’s life garbage, the way they do.
    ++++++++
    Maybe most other attorneys are too busy or too professional to blog on here, or most other places. 😀 But I see your point.

  84. Might I just be allowed to remind everyone about this Feb, 2008 article, part of which says:

    Meanwhile, while Brodsky and Peterson flew to New York for his third
    appearance on the NBC show, Brodsky’s law partner, Reem Odeh,
    questioned the way the case was being managed.

    “I’m concerned that there’s more emphasis and more of an effort to
    cater to the media frenzy than there is to looking into the issues
    surrounding the investigations,” Odeh said. “It just seems to me that
    when there’s nothing going on with the investigation and things are
    quiet in the media, it seems like sometimes either Joel or Drew says
    something to start the media frenzy all over again.”

    Brodsky has mounted an aggressive campaign for media coverage.

    Asked whether she discussed those issues with Brodsky, Odeh said,
    “Absolutely. I don’t think it’s appropriate. I think it is in the
    client’s best interest to keep it quiet and focus on the case. But he
    just says the case is going to make us famous and we’re all going to
    get book deals.”

    Odeh said she plans to meet with Peterson and tell him that she
    believes he should behave in a more professional manner, and if that
    doesn’t happen, she will push to have him dropped as a client.

  85. Ducky, I’m working on that opinion. Having to get on and off the computer Lightning is popping all around. BBL.

  86. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Ducky, I’m working on that opinion. Having to get on and off the computer Lightning is popping all around. BBL.
    ——————————————————–
    Stay safe.

    Rescue-a resident attorney would be good, but what are the odds that one will be able to explain anything that JB does or says? I think that JB is one of a kind, therefore any “normal” attorney would be much help 😉

  87. Good morning! Here’s the transcript of the radio interview:

    Gregg Olsen, author, conducting the interview
    M. (Matt) William Phelps, author/journalist, is
    the interviewee
    Denny Griffin, from Crime Rant Website, is
    fielding queries from the general public to be
    asked of Matt and/or Glenn

    DENNY: Ok, first question- Mary Ann, from Topeka,
    “Matt said something about Drew Peterson last time.
    What’s up?”
    GLENN: You know Matt, we gotta get that out of
    you. Because You’ve been playing coy with that for
    too long.
    MATT: Well, in a nutshell, Drew Peterson, his
    attorney and his people got ahold of me, uh, I
    don’t know, 6 or 7 weeks ago now, and I had a 2
    hour pow, almost a 3 hour pow wow with Drew on the
    phone, and his attorney, and they wanted me to
    write a book from D’s point of view and d would
    have absolutely no editorial control over it. And
    I thought it would be interesting, and so I
    listened. And the gist of I got from Drew Peterson,
    beyond the hair standing up on the back of my neck,
    as he spoke- the gist I got from him was that he
    wanted me to trash um his wife that’s missing and
    his dead wife. He wanted me to trash them. He had
    all this dish on them that he wanted to lay out
    there, or he wanted me to lay out there. Which..
    GLENN: Unbelieveable! I mean here’s…
    MATT: which had absolutely nothing to do with the
    crime. And then he want too, and here’s the big one,
    uh, he told me: they wanted, they wanted to come
    out and lay the first, the wife who was murdered
    on the second wife who is missing. They want to put
    that on her saying she did it.
    GLENN: That stacy was the killer.
    MATT: That stacy was the killer of the first wife,
    that’s, that’s, that…
    GLENN: That’s absolutely disgusting.
    MATT: You know, I, I was sick my agent was sick.
    GLENN:the hair on the back of your neck…
    MATT: I had to take a shower
    GLENN: was standing up…what about your stomach?
    MATT: I…
    GLENN: Didn’t you want to puke your guts out
    MATT: No, I..
    GLENN: listening to that pig?
    MATT: I ran upstairs and took a shower after
    that phone call, um. It’s just um.. eh… I, I…
    GLENN: What, what…so Is he doing this, was he
    doing it for money, or for revenge? Is he mad about
    the media the way the media was treating him? What’s
    his deal?
    MATT: He said he didn’t want the money, but he wanted
    a certain percentage to go to his 5 kids into a trust
    fund, of course. It’s the same, it’s OJ. It’s “If I
    Did It #2”.
    GLENN: Yeah.
    MATT: And I didn’t want to get involved in “If I did
    It #2”.
    GLENN: Oh… (Unintelligible)
    MATT: There, there was a lot of money involved.
    GLENN: (unintelligible) …a big phone deal.
    MATT: No… I’m a journalist.I mean I, I, what I
    What I asked him to do, he wouldn’t do. I asked
    Drew Peterson to take a lie detector test. I would
    set it up. I would give him, uh, I would have my
    people, I know one of the top polygrapher’s in the
    state of New York. And I was gonna send Drew there,
    and have him take a polygraph, and I was gonna submit
    the questions, and, and he just wouldn’t do that, uh,
    so. Either way I wouldn’t have done it. But it was…
    GLENN: You were curious, you know, to kind of talk to
    him.
    MATT: Why wouldn’t I talk with him? I..
    GLENN: Seriously- you would never have done the book,
    would you? (pause) I mean would you get involved with
    someone like that?
    MATT: It depends. It really, it really depends. I mean
    I had a tough time thinking about getting involved with
    it, but I wanted to see if I could get involved. Because
    I’m a journalist, that comes first- so if there was
    a story there, but the main thing here is there’s no
    story. There’s a middle of a story- there’s no
    beginning, there’s no ending, okay?
    GLENN: Yeah. I..
    MATT: (unintelligible)
    GLENN: We talked about this, you know I feel differently,
    I wouldn’t want to be involved at all. I wouldn’t want
    to further that man’s agenda.
    MATT: Well, I- NO! But I wasn’t gonna be furthering his
    agenda, I was there to hear if there was a story. If
    there was a story, if there was a story that I was
    interested in telling, I would have told it. But there
    was just no story there. I wasn’t going to trash these
    people, these 2 women, both of whom are probably dead, um.
    You know, I find it inter-..
    GLENN: Well, not probably- is there any doubt?
    MATT: I find it interesting that Stacy’s mother is
    missing too, and she’s been missing for about 10 years.
    I find that very, that, there’s, I don’t know, there’s…
    GLENN: What, was Drew involved in that?
    MATT: He couldn’t have been, really. He couldn’t have
    been. He didn’t know them people then. Uh, (mumbles) I
    don’t know…
    GLENN: So are you suggesting maybe that the mom
    disappeared? And then later, um..
    MATT: No, I’m not suggesting anything. I just thought, I
    just think that that was funny, I just think that’s funny.
    Um, but Drew Peterson is definitely, um, I mean he said
    a couple of things, of which I cannot, I cannot repeat,
    because I, I, you know I, I, I, I agreed to a non-disclosure
    of some things on the phone, he said some things that just
    made me, that just gave me chills. And it wasn’t the
    information, it was how he said it, you know, I just..
    GLENN: Without revealing what he said, tell us, tell us how
    he acted on the phone.
    (Unintelligible cross talk)
    MATT: Cocky. He acted cocky, he acted arrogant, he acted
    like, ah, he acted exactly like he came across on, he comes
    across on Larry King and the Today show. However, there
    was, there was, the “F” bomb was dropped many times, you know,
    he was just, he was just acting as himself, really…
    GLENN: Is he, would you say he’s as foul mouthed as Jolene?
    MATT: No.
    GLENN: Not that bad, huh?
    MATT: Absolutely not.
    GLENN: (laughs)
    MATT: (muttered) Absolutely not.
    GLENN: Allright, any other questions there Denny?
    DENNY: Yes, ah, from Darrin (sp.?) from Michigan- Is it true
    that Ann Rule is in failing health…

    (END OF DP TALK)

  88. ducky’s comment – yeah, but you know, what I cannot get over is the rest of the defense team. While I’ve never heard a peep out of any of them, except for that interview JB’s partner gave, part of which I quoted above, why do they stay on? It’s common knowledge the first piece of advice attorneys’ give their clients is to “shut up.” I believe that is one of the reasons Peterson’s original attorney dropped him – he went on The Today Show against his advice. So, why are they, and this is just my opinion, allowing their reputations to be tarnished by staying on his defense team? They can’t all be media hungry nuts like Joel Brodsky!

    I just don’t get it.

  89. Basherette – no wonder you are my hero! You are the best, one classy lady, with the neatest avatar I’ve ever seen, by the way!

  90. Rescue-you won’t be able to understand it. Every attorney shakes their head at the antics of JB. JB’s partner hasn’t been heard from since that original statement, but you know that she doesn’t agree. Since they are partners, it’s hard to simply walk away from your firm and it may have to do with contracts between her and Joel. JB’s only reputation is from this case. He will never practice law or get another client. I believe that he’s thinking that he will get rich from this and that will be it. He’s scum. IMO

  91. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 9:35 am

    For what it’s worth, BigM will be reevaluating the banning of members over the next few days, and if he feels he was wrong, he’ll email you and invite you to come back if you want.
    ****

    I’d rather be hooked up to a ipecac syrup IV, having dry, salted watermelon seeds fired up my nostrils with a pheumatic nail gun whilst someone pulls my toenails out with rusty pliers as I listen to the “Greatest Hits of William Shatner” whilst reclined on a bed of 2 1/2 ” drywall screws, than go back to SYM.

    Please feel free to pass that on…

  92. Hello all……….usually just a reader but had to put my 2 cents in on this slander lawsuit Brodsky is threatening.

    In order for him to win a libel or slander suit he would have to prove that Phelps either wrote or verbally spoke an untruth that would defame DP’s character and would damage his reputation within his community.

    DP and Brodsky have done absolutely all the damage to DP’s character and reputation that could be done. IMO, there is nothing anyone can say, write, or physically do to damage his reputation any further.

    The damage has all been done previously through all of their antics and b.s.!!

  93. Thanks Basherette – Fantastic job!

    I wonder if it was the polygraph that really spooked DP? It had to have been.

  94. Of course one way to make the slander case stick would be for Drew to take a polygraph. how else is Joel going to prove that any of what Matt said about Drew was untrue?

    I’ll bet Matt Phelps would take a polygraph…

  95. Well, in Basherette’s transcription…..

    “Peterson is definitely, um, I mean he said
    a couple of things, of which I cannot, I cannot repeat, because I, I, you know I, I, I, I agreed to a non-disclosure of some things on the phone,”

    “some things” That’s interesting use of the non-disclosure discussion.

  96. i thought you might feel that way bash & cant say i blame ya i would feel the same way. kudos on the transcripts

  97. girlygurl – yes, they certainly have stirred up their own pot of mess. Peterson would have withered away into oblivion, along with his attorney, had he kept a low profile and kept his mouth shut, as well as his attorney.

    I think Joel Brodsky, since he’s the man’s legal counselor, should submit himself to a mental examination, cause he’s sure making some questionable decisions these days. Don’t see his other defense partners doing the same.

    Hmm, let’s see – Peterson – Brodsky – Selig. Yes, that is the three stooges.

  98. So, “Mr.” Brodsky. If you’re here lookin’, could you please (on SYM if you must) let us know if you’re going to start calling the news stations to get on, what with two issues that have cropped up in the last couple of days. The Ashley blog and the radio interview. I just want to know if I should run out and get some popcorn.

  99. Glenn and that Matt fellow sound like upstanding chaps… nice to know that there are hard working people out there who have morals, nes-ce’ pa?

  100. Hmm, let’s see – Peterson – Brodsky – Selig. Yes, that is the three stooges.
    ***

    More like the 3 pigs… (but only if the smart pig underwent a frontal lobotomy…)

  101. Ah, yes, Basherette, but the stooges are always slapping each other, well, Moe slaps Larry & Curly a lot, so I’m all for a little face slapping with this trio.

  102. Cfs7360, you be careful now! Don’t get yourself fried!

    When the storm passes, and there’s no more lightening, pop back and let us know you’re allright, okay? 🙂

  103. Shitake mushrooms! It’s *NOT* “Glenn”, it’s “GREGG”…

    I goofed…

    Back to the drawing board. 😦

  104. Thank goodness! I mean there are enough people who share the same names already.

    I don’t need to be dealing with 2 Glenns. 😀

  105. I just got this picture of BM lurking around his board hunting for the culprit that called him bald…….

  106. Let’s try this again…

    Drew Peterson

    Last night I hosted a half hour show called Crime Rant Live on Blog Talk Radio. My guests were true crime writers and investigative journalists M. William Phelps and Gregg Olsen. At about 23 minutes into the program Matt Phelps responded to a text question regarding Drew Peterson, the former Illinois police officer suspected in the death of one wife and the disappearance of another. It turned out that a few weeks ago Matt was contacted by Peterson’s lawyer about writing a book. He conducted a nearly three hour phone interview of Peterson and the lawyer.

    Although Matt couldn’t reveal all the details of the conversation, I found what he did say to be very interesting. And anyone who has followed this case probably will too. You can play back Matt’s comments from the archived show at BTR site http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dennisngriffin. Again, the relevant portion is about 23 minutes in.

    Denny

    *****
    THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT

    Here’s the transcript of the radio interview:

    Gregg Olsen, author, conducting the interview M. (Matt) William Phelps, author/journalist, is the interviewee Denny Griffin, from Crime Rant Website, is fielding queries from the general public to be asked of Matt and/or Glenn

    DENNY: Ok, first question- Mary Ann, from Topeka, “Matt said something about Drew Peterson last time. What’s up?”

    GREGG: You know Matt, we gotta get that out of you. Because You’ve been playing coy with that for too long.

    MATT: Well, in a nutshell, Drew Peterson, his attorney and his people got ahold of me, uh, I don’t know, 6 or 7 weeks ago now, and I had a 2 hour pow, almost a 3 hour pow wow with Drew on the phone, and his attorney, and they wanted me to write a book from DP’s point of view and he would have absolutely no editorial control over it. And I thought it would be interesting, and so I listened. And the gist of I got from Drew Peterson, beyond the hair standing up on the back of my neck, as he spoke- the gist I got from him was that he wanted me to trash um his wife that’s missing and his dead wife. He wanted me to trash them. He had all this dish on them that he wanted to lay out there, or he wanted me to lay out there. Which..

    GREGG: Unbelieveable! I mean here’s…

    MATT: Which had absolutely nothing to do with the crime. And then he want too, and here’s the big one, uh, he told me: they wanted, they wanted to come out and lay the first, the wife who was murdered on the second wife who is missing. They want to put that on her saying she did it.

    GREGG: That stacy was the killer.

    MATT: That stacy was the killer of the first wife, that’s, that’s, that…

    GREGG: That’s absolutely disgusting.

    MATT: You know, I, I was sick my agent was sick.

    GREGG: The hair on the back of your neck…

    MATT: I had to take a shower

    GREGG: … was standing up- what about your stomach?

    MATT: I..

    GREGG: Didn’t you want to puke your guts out…

    MATT: No, I..

    GREGG: … listening to that pig?

    MATT: I ran upstairs and took a shower after that phone call, um. It’s just um.. eh, I, I…

    GREGG: What, what’s.. Is he doing this, was he doing it for money, or for revenge? Is he mad about the media the way the media was treating him? What’s his deal?

    MATT: He said he didn’t want the money, but he wanted a certain percentage to go to his 5 kids into a trust fund, of course. It’s the same, it’s OJ. It’s “If I Did It #2”.

    GREGG: Yeah.

    MATT: And I didn’t want to get involved in “If I did It #2”.

    GREGG: Oh… (Unintelligible)

    MATT: There, there was a lot of money involved.

    GREGG: (unintelligible) …a big phone deal.

    MATT: No, I’m a journalist.I mean I, I, what I, what I asked him to do, he wouldn’t do. I asked Drew Peterson to take a lie detector test. I would set it up. I would give him, uh, I would have my people, I know one of the top polygrapher’s in the
    state of New York. And I was gonna send Drew there, and have him take a polygraph, and I was gonna submit the questions, and, and he just wouldn’t do that, uh, so. Either way I wouldn’t have done it. But it was…

    GREGG: You were curious, you know, to kind of talk to him.

    MATT: Why wouldn’t I talk with him? I..

    GREGG: Seriously- you would never have done the book, would you? (pause) I mean would you get involved with
    someone like that?

    MATT: It depends. It really, it really depends. I mean I had a tough time thinking about getting involved with it, but I wanted to see if I could get involved. Because I’m a journalist, that comes first- so if there was a story there, but the main thing here is there’s no story. There’s a middle of a story- there’s no beginning, there’s no ending, okay?

    GREGG: Yeah. I..

    MATT: (unintelligible)

    GREGG: We talked about this, you know I feel differently, I wouldn’t want to be involved at all. I wouldn’t want to further that man’s agenda.

    MATT: Well, I- NO! But I wasn’t gonna be furthering his agenda, I was there to hear if there was a story. If there was a story, if there was a story that I was interested in telling, I would have told it. But there was just no story there. I wasn’t going to trash these people, these 2 women, both of whom are probably dead, um. You know, I find it inter-..

    GREGG: Well, not probably- is there any doubt?

    MATT: I find it interesting that Stacy’s mother is missing too, and she’s been missing for about 10 years. I find that very, that, there’s, I don’t know, there’s…

    GREGG: What, was Drew involved in that?

    MATT: He couldn’t have been, really. He couldn’t have been. He didn’t know them people then. Uh, (mumbles) I don’t know…

    GREGG: So are you suggesting maybe that the mom disappeared? And then later, um..

    MATT: No, I’m not suggesting anything. I just thought, I just think that that was funny, I just think that’s funny. Um, but Drew Peterson is definitely, um, I mean he said a couple of things, of which I cannot, I cannot repeat, because I, I, you know I, I, I, I agreed to a non-disclosure of some things on the phone, he said some things that just made me, that just gave me chills. And it wasn’t the information, it was how he said it, you know, I just..

    GREGG: Without revealing what he said, tell us, tell us how he acted on the phone.

    (Unintelligible cross talk)

    MATT: Cocky. He acted cocky, he acted arrogant, he acted like, ah, he acted exactly like he came across on, he comes
    across on Larry King and the Today show. However, there was, there was, the “F” bomb was dropped many times, you know, he was just, he was just acting as himself, really…

    GREGG: Is he, would you say he’s as foul mouthed as Jolene?

    MATT: No.

    GREGG: Not that bad, huh?

    MATT: Absolutely not.

    GREGG: (laughs)

    MATT: (muttered) Absolutely not.

    GREGG: Allright, any other questions there Denny?

    DENNY: Yes, ah, from Darrin (sp.?) from Michigan- Is it true that Ann Rule is in failing health…

    (END OF DP TALK)

  107. You know, remember when JB said his smarmy “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”, the very *first* thing that popped into my mind was:

    “Heaven hath joy for a woman DP didn’t *score*”

    Wonder how much truth there is to that…

  108. Once again, thank you Basherette.

    Now, again, I’m wondering if whatever was disclosed during this interview, if it would pique the interest of LE and/or the GJ, and if Mr. Phelps could be compelled to appear, along with his notes, recollections and, if possible, tapes of the conversation. Hmmm?

    Obviously, he wasn’t sworn to secrecy about even divulging this whole thing or he wouldn’t have even said anything. The question is, how relevant is whatever DP disclosed to the case at hand, and can it get into the hands of the GJ.

    Oh, I wish we could find out.

  109. Since I lost my secret decoder book, what’s the score:

    Is Matt Phelps lying?

    Is JB telling the truth?

    Is Matt Phelps lying about things he said on the radio, or is he lying about agreeing not to disclose this interview. JB says he’s lying. Lying about what?

    If he’s lying about agreeing not to disclose having an interview, then JB must have it recorded, if not written, right?

    Oh, the damn drama.

  110. Brodsky says: “Look, in the interview Phelps admits he agreed to a non-disclosure, and then he goes and discloses (albiet falsely) what was said in the interview. What is that if not lying? He admits he lied to me, Glenn and Drew when he promised non-disclosure.:

    What’ya askin’ us for? You’re the lawyer.

  111. Phone records, JB and DP. Phone records.

    Wouldn’t it be a bit of a kick in your Walla Walla, Washingtons if LE subpoenas Mr. Phelps phone records from, oh, about 6 or 7 weeks ago, and there is your phone number on a 2 to 3 hour call?

    Read it and weep…

  112. PM from BigM

    (No Subject)
    « Message sent Today at 1:28pm »

    Since you are an active poster at word press Pass this along to Basherette . I’m glad she is not wanting to come back to my board because I was not planning to unban her to begin with . I fully had every intention on banning Bash She is an underhanded, Two faced Bitch .

    And for the record the other regular posters at word press are not going to be allowed back on this board either so you can pass that along to .
    ____________
    FYI.

  113. My take on it is tha JB says Phelps is lying about what Drew told him on the phone, since according to JB Drew didn’t even speak, or hardly spoke.

    I don’t think it’s so much the breaching of the non-disclosure that’s freaking him out right now, but what Phelps is saying that Drew wanted to the book to be about…little things like “Stacy killed Kathleen” and being motivated by money. He can’t be too happy about that comparison to “If I Did it” either.

  114. Nice to see BigM still isn’t fettered by the conventions of grammar or punctuation. I wonder if he drives his dump truck with the same finesse.

    On the other hand, I’ll bet his dump truck smells FABULOUS.

  115. Brodsky says: “Look, in the interview Phelps admits he agreed to a non-disclosure, and then he goes and discloses (albiet falsely) what was said in the interview. What is that if not lying? He admits he lied to me, Glenn and Drew when he promised non-disclosure.
    *****

    From the radio interview, Mr. Phelps speaking:

    “I mean he said a couple of things, of which I cannot, I cannot repeat, because I, I, you know I, I, I, I agreed to a non-disclosure of *SOME* things on the phone…”
    *****

    “Some” things is *NOT* everything, Mr. Brodsky. Perhaps there is a 4 year refresher course in Law that you could take to help bring you up to speed?

  116. Denny Griffin, from Crime Rant Website, is
    fielding queries from the general public to be
    asked of Matt and/or Glenn.
    ______________
    I think “Is he lying” is a query from the general public!

  117. Hmmm… looks like BM finally got some flunky to write his posts for him- there are less than a handfull of grammatical errors in his PM. He does still need a lot of work regarding his lack of capability when it comes to intelligent verbal sparring and trading reasonably descriptive and imagintive insults without using expletives, however.

    Congratulations on your new secretary, BM. I’ll pray for them.

  118. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Hmmmm. Noway, doesn’t that pm make you wonder “why me?”
    _____________
    Why he wrote to me? I figured it’s because I had PMd him yesterday and asked (as I said I would) why so many had been banned.

    I had sent it to him and to a mod who was online and posting at that time.

    Why was I not banned?
    I ask myself that question of every site I post on! 😀

  119. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Noway, don’t want to rock the boat for you, if you know what I mean, but yeah.
    ___________
    I don’t know if BigM is the only one who can decide if someone is banned, but I guess you would have to ask him why he hasn’t banned my sorry butt.

    I suppose it could happen any time.

  120. Goodness, can you even *imagine* how much the IQ level will drop over there with none of us as members anymore?

    It’s absolutely too staggering to contemplate!

  121. And for the record the other regular posters at word press are not going to be allowed back on this board either so you can pass that along to .
    _____________________

    That’s pretty much a falsehood. SYM members post here all the time. The banning was selective, and only applied to posters that were not wanted or were no longer welcome. Downright fascistic in my opinion, but hey, to each his own.

  122. Oh, this is hysterical! Someone has taken just the part of the radio interview that deals with DP, and posted it as a video with pictures on YouTube!

    Enjoy!

    http://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWtTyuILfs

  123. I think Nurse Ratchet needs to pay Big M a visit.

    And, for the record, NO ONE that he is referring to from here deserves that. No one.

    Just sayin….

  124. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Goodness, can you even *imagine* how much the IQ level will drop over there with none of us as members anymore?

    It’s absolutely too staggering to contemplate!
    +++++++++++++++++

    Post of the day!

  125. Oh, Basherette, that is a diamond in the rough!!!

    Anyway, I don’t know if it’s an error on the part of the interviewee, or if Drew said it, but did you catch that he wanted a portion of the money to go to his “5” children.

    He has “6” of them.

  126. Guys, bottom line, it’s just another site, that’s all. If they want to act like it’s some great, wonderful, secret club to belong to, we all know differently. In fact, if all of the stuff that’s been disclosed about it (and him) here recently had been made public before I joined, I never would have gone there in the first place, and some of you probably wouldn’t have either.

  127. Saw that Rescue, and wondered if Eric was disowned or something. Don’t blame Eric if he disowned his father either.

  128. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    And for the record the other regular posters at word press are not going to be allowed back on this board either so you can pass that along to .
    ***************************
    If that’s the case he’s going to need to ban plenty of the SYM regulars since they post here about as often as they post there. Let’s see, ItsSal should be banned, as well as Amanda…

    Well, I’ll just keep an eye open and make sure to point it out to them when they post here that it’s against SYM rules, to do so.

    BIGM has decreed!

  129. NEW SCREEN SHOT OF A DP EMAIL AT ASHLEY’S!!!

    http:// bp0.blogger.com/_Murml4Ew6tk/SGfqIXJSJxI/AAAAAAAAANA/1swTy_FIq1o/s1600-h/Thanks.jpg

  130. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Oh, Basherette, that is a diamond in the rough!!!

    Anyway, I don’t know if it’s an error on the part of the interviewee, or if Drew said it, but did you catch that he wanted a portion of the money to go to his “5″ children.

    He has “6″ of them.
    ********************

    You think he’s going to give any money to his son Eric? Eric won’t even talk to his father and hasn’t since shortly after Kathleen died. Interesting, isn’t it?

  131. I see you hens are still pecking away at SYM. Just get over it, you claim to not want to go back there but you sure do spend an awfully lot of time discussing it. Are your lives that boring that you have nothing else to talk about?

  132. Ack, the grammar, the grammar! Did DP, JB and BigM all go to school together? We should sue the public school system on their behalf!

  133. If I were DP’s pysch counselor I would suggest that he take a year off and just have some “me” time instead of trying so effing hard to snare another life-partner. Seriously, what is wrong with that man? And, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t he seeing Kim M the same time as he was intending to publicly propose to Ashley?

    It just chills my blood the way he has wiped out Stacy in every way he can.

    Just replay the “Day in the life of Drew” video in your mind while he’s talking about how ‘special’ Stacy made everything and then lay over it the pics of Drew at bars with girls, the calls and visits with Kim, the emails and chats with Ashley. It’s all concurrent.

  134. ROUGH COPY:

    Thanks
    From: bpd…. aol.com
    To: …ashley@yahoo.com
    Friday, June 27, 2008 3:02PM

    Well I guess the saying is true. “Hell hath no fury like a woman’s scorn”. I am so sorry that my perceived actions had made you hate me so much to do what your doing and violate my romantic confidences in you. You promised me that you would never do that. so much for promises. You have such a hate for men because of what that guy did to you I think your gonna try to get your revenge on him through me. I didn’t even have a chance to explain. All you wanted to do was bitch me out and rlease and vent your anger that there was no talking to you. You have such a wall built up around you I don’t think anyone will ever be able to break down and get close to you. And if anyone gets close they will have to live walking on eggs around you because you’ll always be looking for a reason to push tat person away and contiue with your anger towards men. I don’t care who knows but my feelings for you were real but I guess they were waisted on another person trying to capitalize on my anguish. I really want you to have a good laugh on me because I was really hurting losing you as a belieed friend and potential partner. Well thanks for the lesson. Someday I will be cleared of all this and I’ll be ale to move on with my life and someday be happy. One of my life’s regrets will now be that I wasn’t able to take away your bitterness and I’m afraid it will grow and you’ll live with it the rest of your life. Try to go easy on your family and mother because I now have a new understanding why they hate you so much.

  135. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I see you hens are still pecking away at SYM. Just get over it, you claim to not want to go back there but you sure do spend an awfully lot of time discussing it. Are your lives that boring that you have nothing else to talk about?
    ********

    And you’re doing what right now? OH! The same thing you accuse us of doing.

    Whatever, Sal. Yes, you can tell whomever you so desire that my life is boring and I have nothing better to do if that will help you sleep at night.

    Bye bye, now… I have to get back to my boring life, remember?

  136. Hey Sal-blow it out your …

    You may be a mod there but you have no authority here. If you aren’t interested in listening to us, then stay off of HERE. What a concept.

  137. Wow, I wasn’t kidding when I said that was a rough draft- LOL!!!

    See BM? This is what happens when you forget to hit the spell check button!

    Which reminds me- Gatehouse, how come we don’t have a boody spell check button here?

  138. I heard BM got rid of the Karma thing because someone kept smiting Sal. She threw a big fit LOL . Poor Sal.

  139. This line just… well, beans- I can’t really accurately describe the icky way it makes me feel:

    “One of my life’s regrets will now be that I wasn’t able to take away your bitterness… ”

    Like he took away Kathleen’s “bitterness”?
    Like took away Stacy’s “bitterness”?

    Fargin’ arseclown psychopathic piece of rat shite!

  140. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I heard BM got rid of the Karma thing because someone kept smiting Sal. She threw a big fit LOL . Poor Sal.
    *****

    Um, actually some rats were targeting “Angel” over there, smiting her for daring to have intelligence and manners, and I went a bit “Exalt” happy with Roxy, simply because she wanted to be “Smited”.

    Bad. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Basherette. Go to your corner now!

  141. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Boody LOL
    *******

    SEE, Gatehouse? *THIS* is exactly why we need a *bloody* spell check button!!! 🙂

  142. What Sal, here? I can’t believe that she would tear herself away from the intellectual wordplay and the wity banter of Exlaw and BigM.

    Felt a yen to exercise the old gray matter, eh?

  143. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    This line just… well, beans- I can’t really accurately describe the icky way it makes me feel:

    “One of my life’s regrets will now be that I wasn’t able to take away your bitterness… ”

    Like he took away Kathleen’s “bitterness”?
    Like took away Stacy’s “bitterness”?
    **********************

    Oh ewww! Ewwww! His psychosis just drips out of that email doesn’t it?

  144. Sorry- forgot to put what I was “BWAHAHAHAing” to above… 🙂

    facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    What Sal, here? I can’t believe that she would tear herself away from the intellectual wordplay and the wity banter of Exlaw and BigM.

    Felt a yen to exercise the old gray matter, eh?
    ****

    basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

    *SNORT*GIGGLE*SNORT*

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

  145. You know, the more I think about it (because I CAN *think*), I’d MUCH rather be intelligent and have someone accuse me of having no life, than be dangerously stupid and popular socially. Know what I mean?

  146. I wish that she would stop torturing us and release all of them. Maybe then, my need to throw up will be cured in one day instead of dragging it out.

  147. duckyone // June 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    I wish that she would stop torturing us and release all of them. Maybe then, my need to throw up will be cured in one day instead of dragging it out.
    ____________
    Not likely. Sometime during the day, when you least expect it, you’ll think about that email again … and throw up just a little …

  148. why would he mention her mother & family? threat?kinda like Thomas is a smart boy statement dp refering to tp gj appearance

  149. Verbatim: (look it up, BM)

    “Ive alwys started relationships based on looks and gone after beautiful women. My affections for you are only base on your words. New ground for me”

    Really? Ya think? Gee, now *that’s* a major surprise…

  150. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    You know, the more I think about it (because I CAN *think*), I’d MUCH rather be intelligent and have someone accuse me of having no life, than be dangerously stupid and popular socially. Know what I mean?
    ******************************

    Basherette, I don’t even think you need to think in those terms.

    Anyone who is posting and reading enough to attempt to insult anyone here is obviously just as engaged in the thing as we are, so they can’t toss out the ‘no life’ comment without it reflecting on themselves.

    I have a feeling that most of us here are pretty intelligent and from what I see have homes, families, loved ones, jobs and responsibilites that would certainly qualify us with the status of ‘having a life’ in addition to an interest in this case.

    On the other hand, if you you are dangerously stupid AND also feel the need to annoint yourself in chemical substances because of your social awkwardness or purchase sexual services in order to get close to another person, if you are terrified of minorities, homosexuals and women, and attempt to bully and threaten people in order to protect your fragile ego, then you are out on both counts.

  151. noway, that was a BAD thing to see. Like Bash said recently – a bad wreck that you know you shouldn’t look at but do anyway.

    I can’t believe this man is responsible for taking care of two teens and two little people.

    What in the world goes on in that house? How does that man get the privilege of raising the loving souls of four children?

    Mr. Selig, you better get in your office pronto and start churning out some big time public relation releases, cuz this guy is needing them real bad. Real bad.

  152. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Hey, who posted my post on Ashley’s? Twice?
    *********************

    I’ve seen some of mine copied there as well. Odd.

  153. Oh me oh my! I’ve been away far too long! Hope all is well with everyone. Trying to catch up reading here. By the way…the stuff posted about that “ashley” is that the same mysterious girl that dropped DP a note in his mailbox early on?

  154. feistygurl // June 29, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    why would he mention her mother & family? threat?
    *****

    I think that was his remedial way of trying to disparage her whilst trying to sound to the general public like the noble, sincere, composed and heartbroken suitor he isn’t.

  155. duckyone // June 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    I wish that she would stop torturing us and release all of them. Maybe then, my need to throw up will be cured in one day instead of dragging it out.
    ********************

    LOL. I hear ya!

  156. This needs to be said again

    facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    You know, the more I think about it (because I CAN *think*), I’d MUCH rather be intelligent and have someone accuse me of having no life, than be dangerously stupid and popular socially. Know what I mean?
    ******************************

    Basherette, I don’t even think you need to think in those terms.

    Anyone who is posting and reading enough to attempt to insult anyone here is obviously just as engaged in the thing as we are, so they can’t toss out the ‘no life’ comment without it reflecting on themselves.

    I have a feeling that most of us here are pretty intelligent and from what I see have homes, families, loved ones, jobs and responsibilites that would certainly qualify us with the status of ‘having a life’ in addition to an interest in this case.

    On the other hand, if you you are dangerously stupid AND also feel the need to annoint yourself in chemical substances because of your social awkwardness or purchase sexual services in order to get close to another person, if you are terrified of minorities, homosexuals and women, and attempt to bully and threaten people in order to protect your fragile ego, then you are out on both counts.

  157. With this Ashley thing – I hope most of what she said was made up, knowing full well she was talking to “the man” himself, trying to pull him in. He, on the other hand, seems to be quite honest and open. How come he’s having such a hard time telling LE where he put the body of his missing wife?

  158. lavandadolce // June 29, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    By the way…the stuff posted about that “ashley” is that the same mysterious girl that dropped DP a note in his mailbox early on?
    ****

    Unlikely. Ashley of the Blog has stated in one of her comments that she is NOT the same Ashley who left notes in DP’s mailbox.

    However, it has NOT been absolutely, positively confirmed by LE that she is not the same girl.

    Still, I tend to believe her. For whatever that’s worth.

  159. feistygurl // June 29, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    why would he mention her mother & family? threat?
    *****************

    His smart arse personality of basically saying “all- the -stuff -you -told -me -in -confidence- about why- your -family- hates -you- and- did- you wrong…I’m- now- on -their- side- and-see-why- you- deserve- what- you- get” Which is pretty much the same kind of attitude he had w Stacy and Kathleen. He picks women who are vulnerable and have sad backgrounds and then stuffs it right back at them to lower their self esteems. He is one sicko.

  160. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Ducky -please, I hate throwing up. I don’t want to do it. Don’t go there ducky.
    ——————————————————–
    Noway is right, even if she released it all in one day, that feeling would still keep creeping back. Kind of like DP keeps doing.

  161. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Hey, who posted my post on Ashley’s? Twice?
    ______________

    That’s why I started using my name. No.Way.

    http:// drewpeterson1.blogspot.com/

    Last post went to la la land. Darn links!

  162. I’m still sick to my stomach over the new “funny video’ on YouTube. Just far too long with that belly photo of DP and the sicko stuffed animal webcam. If this stuff comes out on the web…here and there….can you just imagine what will come out at the trial? It would have to be probably longer than OJ’s trial….and the bummer of it all is it won’t be televised on court tv either.

  163. Did you notice in the PM exchange where he said he “worked hard to show the kids a good time” at the waterpark? Now that I believe. He had to WORK AT IT. what a scumbucket.

  164. Who in the world would take something posted here and make it their own on Ashley’s blog.

    It flabbergasts me.

  165. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Who in the world would take something posted here and make it their own on Ashley’s blog.

    It flabbergasts me.
    __________________

    Explain Noway. I’m not sure I know what you mean? Still surfing through that Ashley blog. Are you saying words posted here are on her site? Do you think she is for real? Maybe she is a setup between Drew and Brodsky to get opinions on what the general public think of Drew once some of the stuff does get out of what he has been doing? Do you think? I am just stunned that he would be soooooooo stupid to sit and type personal stuff…or anything for that matter……..to a never before met stranger on an instant message? IS HE THAT DUMB?

  166. He sent her an email saying he was willing to take a road trip to come and see her OR SHE CAN COME UP AND STAY WITH HIM? OMG…….a strange woman in his home with 4 children? One he met online and has no clue who she could be? THIS is really getting way out of hand. How much of this do you think is really true? If this is true…………..this is far worse than I ever thought it could be.

  167. HEY!!! They even swiped my “Take care & Shalom!”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

  168. Bash, they are doing it anonymous, feel flattered. and don’t get mad it will just encourage them.

  169. facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    If I were DP’s pysch counselor I would suggest that he take a year off and just have some “me” time instead of trying so effing hard to snare another life-partner. Seriously, what is wrong with that man? And, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t he seeing Kim M the same time as he was intending to publicly propose to Ashley?
    +++++++++++++++++
    And Facs, that is exactly what brought me to the opinion that I’m about to express……

    Yes, Drew was seeing Kim, but it appears he was two-timing Ashley by doing so, unbeknownst to her until Drew gets stopped for speeding and poop hits the fan. So theorectically, it look s like Drew was playing both of them, for whatever sick reason he had, and then they found out about each other. All of this took place in May. Ashley’s last contact with Drew until recently was May 11, she said. Drew was stopped for speeding on May 3rd, but it didn’t hit the paper s until about May 5th or 6th. Guess Drew was trying to explain his way out of it up until May 11th. Kim just wanted out of the mess. Ashley wanted revenge, and Joel was right….she is a scorned woman, but only because of Drew two timing her, not because he was trying to blow her off. Make sense so far? See how these two things tie into each other. Ashley was probably also an arduous supporter of Drew, and believed in him beyond compare. She apparently believed he could do not wrong and would never be arrested, but things started to unfold and unravel with Kim’s appearance, and probably came close to doing so when Denise was discovered and discussed on the blogs.

    If this is who I suspect it is, and I could be completely wrong, this person has also admitted to being abused by her step-father on some boards, and “that man” is more than likely who Drew is referring to in this recent email to Ashley.

    This is all that I’m going to say. You all can decide for yourselves whether you think this may have directly, or indirectly been part of, or all of the reason why this other board went ballistic all of sudden. These are my opinions only guys. Some may agree, some may not. Just thought I would share. It was hard to write without going into all the detail that I needed to to make it more understandable. Sorry. Gatehouse, if you think this should be removed, please do so.

  170. Bash and Feisty-it’s probably Sal or someone from SYM. Take it as a compliment and they will leave you alone 😉

  171. She apparently believed he could do not wrong and would never be arrested, but things started to unfold and unravel with Kim’s appearance, and probably came close to doing so when Denise was discovered and discussed on the blogs.
    ____________________-

    Who is Denise? I’m so sorry everyone. I’ve been so busy with everything and it’s been awhile since I could get time to the boards and now I’m totally lost here:(

  172. Ashley wanted revenge, and Joel was right….she is a scorned woman, but only because of Drew two timing her, not because he was trying to blow her off.
    ______________________

    My honest opinion is that whomever this Ashley is….was doing this on purpose and that she wasn’t interested in Drew anyhow. I think her interest was in getting information. That is my take by the way she “talks”. Nobody is that dumb to spell police officer like she did. Unless she is only 12 and even at that…most 12 year olds can spell officer. I got the feeling the words she was typing back to him were “forced” to get him to play along. Just my intuition.

  173. Denise was name-dropped by *one* poster here several months ago as being DP’s new “love interest” or “girlfriend”, if you will.

    Sofar, there has been absolutely *NO* confirmation of any kind that what the poster said was accurate in any way, whatsoever.

  174. I don’t know about that Lavonda. My son just mentioned that people make all kinds of spelling errors when they’re chatting, because they’re trying to have a “real time” conversation with someone, and it moves along faster if they don’t try to catch every spelling/punctuation/grammatical error.

    Now, if it was an email, I’d have a different take on it. But I trust my son knows more about this subject than I do, for what that’s worth.

  175. Wow – CFS – I need to think about this.

    Girlfriend certainly did panic when she got called on her desperate attempts to get in fo on Denise W, didn’t she? Deleted her account for a while, in fact, after her changing her story 3 times on why she had reacted the way she did.

    And she did express mucho contempt over Kim M. At first she kept insisting that the whole thing was a fabrication, even when DP and JB were pretty much admitting to it. Why would she do that?

    Still, it doesn’t explain why, if she is who we are thinking about, she would just now get angry enough to want to exact revenge like this. Why not do it on May 11?

  176. i think the ossifer was a flirt from a movie or famous actress. She put the flirt thing after it.

  177. osifer is just a cutsy kind of remark on her part. I hate to admit it, but I have been known to call a certain husband that myself. Osifer, don’t give me any grief.

    Going in my corner now.

  178. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    So was ex law really hot on drew?
    **********

    She certainly was up until a few weeks ago, when she rather abruptly posted that although he was innocent/handsome/etc. (*BARF*), she *wouldn’t* want to date him after all.

    I figured that her docs finally got her meds straightened out, but who knows?

  179. Couldn’t be 29.

    “I left the state I was living in after a divorce from my cop husband. My family still lived here in the Chicago area and wanted me to come home. My mom was in her last years and my daughter needed help with her three kids. So home I came.”

    Also, she did make public her email address wich includes a first initial and last name, and they are nothing like Ashley Gabry.

    So…now I’m kinda doubting an exlax/Ashley doppleganger.

  180. Afternoon All –

    Don’t have much to add, just trying to catch up reading.

    Ocifer and PoPo……lol.

  181. I don’t know. I just have a gut feeling this Ashley girl who did this blog had her mind set to do this from the get-go. I just don’t see sincerity in her posts……..I’m not saying she is not sincere, I guess what I’m trying to say is that she tends to “lead him on” …example the motorcycle chat. I just think she may have happened upon him and from that point decided to see how much she could get out of him. Hey…I say…kudos to her for that matter. The public needs to see and hear just how many lies and sick intentions he has.

  182. Yeah “ossifer” is kind of an established joke (think drunk). I used to know someone who had a cat and a dog. the dog was named Lucifer and the cat was named Ossifer.

  183. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I heard BM got rid of the Karma thing because someone kept smiting Sal. She threw a big fit LOL . Poor Sal
    ++++++++++++++
    I don’t think so Iknow. Sal didn’t want to give it up.

  184. Um, Facsmiley, people can have more than one email address, and even from different email providers.

    And after the little “incognito/undercover” foray exlax had over here during the Denise fray, I find it very hard to believe that she *wouldn’t* be able to make up different personalities on different forums/boards to suit whatever her purposes were.

    Just my 2 cents.

  185. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    HEY!!! They even swiped my “Take care & Shalom!”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    ***********************

    They obviously agree with your sentiments.

  186. I think Ashley is someone from another site, not Perverted Justice.

    If I’m wrong I will apoligize, but I don’t think I am.

    And I believe it is nothing more than a game to this “Ashley” person, and I put no weight into it.

    She hasn’t posted anything “racy” etc. I’m waiting for that.

  187. Lavanda, she is for real, Joel has admitted as much.

    The “police ossifer” was IMO a joke … the way people speak when they are drunk and trying not to show it.

    IMO there was no LE involvment to start with but they may have gotten involved at some point.

  188. Sorry all, but I just don’t know how to take the plagarizing thing.

    And I really suck when it comes to taking compliments gracefully. It makes me uncomfortable, you know? Thank you, but I’m bright red now….

  189. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Um, Facsmiley, people can have more than one email address, and even from different email providers.

    And after the little “incognito/undercover” foray exlax had over here during the Denise fray, I find it very hard to believe that she *wouldn’t* be able to make up different personalities on different forums/boards to suit whatever her purposes were.

    Just my 2 cents.
    *******************

    I’m not counting it completely out. But after thinking about it some, I think it’s more likely that Ashleywas not actually enamored with DP and that this was a set up from the get-go.

    Remember Exlax was not undercover nor incognito during the denise w freakshow…she just acted completely out of character. And that IS suspect…but that could be because she was a Droupie wannabe – not an actual one.

    As she reveals more of the emails we may get more info that could discount Exlax…or implicate her.

    Personally, I don’t think it’s her.

  190. Coming out of my corner for a minute. Too much wine makes your mouth talk funny, yes, when referring to the osifer you’re addressing.

    Okay, heading back.

  191. Ah. You’re definitely right, of course, and I should know better. Think I’ll wait and see until more information reveals itself, before trying to do any sleuthing in that area…

    Honestly, though, I must admit that I am getting a little impatient with posts that insinuate someone *knows* who she is, but won’t just come out and say *exactly* who they believe/think/know who Ashley/a forum member/my neighbor’s underwater basket repairman etc. *really* is.

    Impatience sucks. I’ve got to work on that, especially since nothing about these cases has ever happened really quickly…

  192. Good gosh, almight, who would ever want to be a Droupie wannabe. Is the dating game that tough these days?????

  193. Aw, beans…

    I did it again, didn’t I?

    Just noticed that “Exlaw” is now “Exlax” in several others posts…

    DARN THOSE UNSOLICITED FREUDIAN SLIP POP UP ADS!!!!

  194. Facs, I thought about the age thing too, and you may be right. However, I’ve seen other places where home is and ages, if you know what I mean. Not saying any of this is fact, and Ashley could really be just a setup, but somebody had to take some time to get that done, and it looks like there is a reason for it……somebody is very angry at Drew for some reason. Guess Ashley will eventually disclosed it if there is, other than her saying he needs to be found out.

    All I want to say is that whoever it is, and for whtever reason they’re doing, I am SO GLAD they have finally seen the light about Drew Peterson.

  195. Who knows? Can’t hurt to try.

    Hopefully she doesn’t get ambushed by a bunch of subpoenas from JB, the GJ, etc., before she can post the rest of the whole mess…

  196. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Hey, Lavanda- maybe Ashley really *is* someone from Perverted Justice… hmmm??
    __________________-

    Not sure because I don’t believe I’ve ever frequeted that board. Unless that is a slang term for some other board? Anyhow….my gut says she played Drew from the start.

  197. Funny thing is………that “Ossifer” line……..keeps ringing in my head the ol’ Green Acres show when the wife kept calling her husband “OLLEY-VERRRR”

    lol

  198. Geez…….you think maybe the ol’ cyber detectives that DP and JB hired have figured out who she is? LOL. They tried to portray that they hired detectives to look for Stacy…………….ON THE INTERNET. Like she is hiding in cyberspace. Be for real……..those two are slimy as all can get. And JB answered the question the way any slimey character would have “no, there are no signed book or movie deals”…..but the interviewee wasn’t quite on target….should have said…….”are you seeking to find a book or movie deal”…..then one could have chuckled as JB would have elbowed DP while tugging on his own ear trying to come up with a savvy answer. They are soooooooooo transparent it’s actually fun to watch them. Both of them.

  199. Just like trying to pin Kathleen’s death on Stacy. I said that months ago when the Pastor first came out. Goes to show JB does read the boards…and will fix his case towards the public view….only problem is……his client will be found guilty…on both counts. Now that he will not expect. lol

  200. Here is the question and her response:

    Anonymous said…
    Ashley-Are you a member of any forums/boards about Stacy Peterson?

    June 29, 2008 4:51 PM
    Ashley said…
    No I dont belong to any forms or blogs , just have 2 yahoo screen names and this blog .

    June 29, 2008 4:57 PM

  201. If you go to my site, you’ll see I set up for a chat tonite. It’s beta testing. 8pm eastern, if anyone is interested. I’m sure the posts will be flying after seeing this Ashley’s site. It just totally makes me sick to my stomach that beautiful child in the background seeing “daddy” playing with his or his sisters stuffed animal on a webcam. Good gracious. By the way…………A thought just dawned on me. In the post at Ashleys, she shows DP and the webcam…yet she describes herself and says that she is fit and looks good. This means that it must have been a one way cam, eh? MAN…is he really that dumb to carry on a webcam w a one way view? The least a COP , or ex cop, would have done is want to verify that the person he is talking to is for real would have been to want to be sure that SHE was on the other end of the webcam. Eh?

  202. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Thanks Ducky. That blows my theory out of the water if she’s telling the truth.
    ———————————————————
    She seems sincere. Your welcome. It never hurts to come right out and ask 😉

  203. How are you asking Ashley these questions? If you can, ask her if the webcam was a one-way….on DP on it. Why didn’t she show herself to DP on it? Her posts clearly stated she “described herself as fit, etc.” thus gives me the impression that she was not “on the other end”. Is the THAT DUMB?

  204. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    I’m going to ask her if she was ever in love with Drew or if this was a set up from the beginning,
    ____________________

    I can answer that one. 😉 just my opinion though.

  205. I think this person chatted with Drew accidently on purpose to start with. Then once she confirmed it was Drew (convinced him that webcam was the way to go), she may have contacted ISP.

    I think otherwise ISP would have shut her down by now.

    IMO
    😀

  206. Ok, I was wrong. I just posted this, and it went through just fine :

    Wow… just wow.

    Sucks to be you, Drew!!!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    🙂

  207. lavandadolce // June 29, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    In the post at Ashleys, she shows DP and the webcam…yet she describes herself and says that she is fit and looks good. This means that it must have been a one way cam, eh?
    ***********************
    The convo about her appearance is from 3/15 while the webcam photo is from 4/10. At that point they may very well have been doing 2-way webcam.

  208. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I heard BM got rid of the Karma thing because someone kept smiting Sal. She threw a big fit LOL . Poor Sal
    ++++++++++++++
    I don’t think so Iknow. Sal didn’t want to give it up.

    CFS/Angel – Get your facts straight. You were the one that kept whining about people smiting you. I could give a rat’s ass about some silly internet points.

    If you would like I can copy and paste over here your direct quotes where you were whining about it. If you would not like me to discuss you, then I suggest you stop discussing me!!

  209. facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    The convo about her appearance is from 3/15 while the webcam photo is from 4/10. At that point they may very well have been doing 2-way webcam.
    *****

    Aw, beans, Facsmiley- I SOOOOOOOO didn’t need to know that…

    *barf*

  210. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    If you would like I can copy and paste over here your direct quotes…
    *****

    Actually, I can’t speak for Angel, but I sure would be obliged if you could copy/paste the queries I asked JB over there- with his answers too, of course… 🙂

  211. In the words of Glinda the Good:

    “Rubbish, you have no power here! Be gone before someone drops a house on you.”

  212. Bash – I have the Q&A archived, but not necessarily who said what. If you can remember specific questions, I’ll post the answers here.

  213. Bash – JB’s questions and answers are posted on various blogs all over the internet you said so yourself….so you find them.

    Facs – Ooo….I’m scared. NOT!

  214. Maybe it we all ignore the bully, she’ll take her childish prattle elsewhere. Elsewhere would be the place where ones can only come out now once the sun goes down.

  215. Ashley said…
    I’m not trying to be a Hero and I never had any type of relationship with drew other than online chatting and like I said before once he told me who he was I told him I thought he killed his wife BUT you are right about one thing you said and that is ( he is the suspect – not me ) .. that ol man got played and damn well deserved it – got some pretty good info from it i might add , now hows that feel drew ? ya Lil bitch !!!

    June 29, 2008 5:36 PM

  216. Big M Member since:
    December 15, 2005

    Strip club management.?
    What is the best way to become a strip club manager? What qualifications will I need. I have some management exp, but not in any kind of clubs.

  217. widebirth // June 29, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Big M Member since:
    December 15, 2005

    Strip club management.?
    What is the best way to become a strip club manager? What qualifications will I need. I have some management exp, but not in any kind of clubs.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    hey there is some new stuff Sal!!!!!!

    lmao

  218. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Bash – JB’s questions and answers are posted on various blogs all over the internet you said so yourself….so you find them.
    *****

    He he… Made ya look! 🙂

  219. You guys just love putting BigM on blast. It’s not hard to find information about people on the internet. How would you feel if someone started digging up info on you?

  220. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Why would someone want to come over here to fsp2 and all of us vultures?
    *****

    Aw, beans… and to think all this time I thought we were just a bunch of constipated, inbred pit vipers with no lives! Silly me! 🙂

  221. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Thanks, Facsmiley- but I was just joshing about that.

    I have EVERYTHING saved.
    ____________

    Those silly folks. Goes to show they don’t know you that well afterall, eh? You’re probably the queen of collected info! lol

  222. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    You guys just love putting BigM on blast. It’s not hard to find information about people on the internet. How would you feel if someone started digging up info on you?
    ______________-

    We don’t dig up info on other posters in this forum. Better run back to the sites that enable that……you’re not going to find anyone here in support of that type of troll-stalking mentality.

  223. By the way, for clarity…this was directed towards those who are not regulars here and coming from the Sym site…or wherever they are coming from. “Those silly folks. Goes to show they don’t know you that well afterall, eh? You’re probably the queen of collected info! lol”

  224. Lavanda – You have got to be kidding me. Is your head in the sand or what? This site has posted lots of personal information about BigM including his name. So before you try to defend this site, you better get your facts straight.

  225. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    You guys just love putting BigM on blast. It’s not hard to find information about people on the internet. How would you feel if someone started digging up info on you?
    ———————————————————-

    Hey Sal, you must be bored with all 4 of your members. ROTFLMFAO! Go back to your hole and take your BM with you.

  226. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    You guys just love putting BigM on blast. It’s not hard to find information about people on the internet. How would you feel if someone started digging up info on you?
    *********

    Uh, HELLO! Check with BM on this, lady! If ANYONE posts ANY personal, identifying information about ANYONE *not* pertinent to the criminal cases being discussed, for example Admins/Mods/Members/general public (like Denise), then I IMMEDIATELY contact “the powers to be” asking them to remove it and inform the person affected about it.

    Threaten all you want- but do you seriously think it would be that hard for me to get YOUR arse GLOBALLY BANNED from ProBoards or any other forum if you try to pull that shitake with me???

    Kiss my everlovin’ green arse! I will NOT be threatened directly *or* indirectly by you or anyone else that pops out of the woodwork, lady.

    Please, leave now whilst you at least have *some* shreads of dignity remaining… you can *not* win this battle.

  227. LALALALALA. I can’t hear you Sal. Go away. Your 4 members miss you. You are here because nobody IS talking about SYM and you are trying to stir it. Sometimes, you have to be careful what you wish for. hehe

  228. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I heard BM got rid of the Karma thing because someone kept smiting Sal. She threw a big fit LOL . Poor Sal
    ++++++++++++++
    I don’t think so Iknow. Sal didn’t want to give it up.

    CFS/Angel – Get your facts straight. You were the one that kept whining about people smiting you. I could give a rat’s ass about some silly internet points.

    If you would like I can copy and paste over here your direct quotes where you were whining about it. If you would not like me to discuss you, then I suggest you stop discussing me!!
    ++++++++++++
    Sal, you posted that you did NOT want it done away with. I didn’t bring up your name, IKNOW did. Yes, I was the one who said something about it. PLEASE bring my posts over here and post them so all can see that I know what I am talking about and that you are being your usual bitchy self. I love for you to constantly waste you time staying on my back because, you know what?? I doesn’t bother me. Most of us know what you are. Bring it on.

  229. lavandadolce // June 29, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Those silly folks. Goes to show they don’t know you that well afterall, eh? You’re probably the queen of collected info! lol
    *****

    Nah- acandyrose TOTALLY beats my arse in that department.

    It’s good to be the “greenish Queen of the links”, though! 🙂

  230. Big Mouth Bash – I don’t know why you felt the need to right a book. I never said that I was going to dig up information on anyone. I just said it was easy to do…so finding stuff BigM has posted on other message boards is really no big find.

    You old hens must hate it that you can’t run me off.

  231. Hey, didn’t WE ALL get a personal message asking for information on certain people and reporting it to Big M????

    Shall I get my message and paste it her for you itssal?

  232. Rescue – Once again, people are taking things out of context. He asked what names/nics people were using on his board so that people could be banned. There is no reason for multiple nics. He could care less who people are in real life.

  233. Or, maybe I should post the littleM’s rant to CFS and her response. I have the entire thing.

    Sal, why don’t you go back to your little board with your little Admin? The other 4 members are missing you.

    If you can’t stand this site, why do you come here? Really?

  234. ok im going to say something here. i wouldnt want my info out there either. i did put bigms name up here one time. without thinking then a kind soul at kimmers kinda gave me her opinion & i feel bad for putting it out there. i have never said a bad thing about bigm. i was kinda mad that they all left the board we were all posting at but thats my only beef with him & im over it. also i didnt go looking for it i remembered it cuz it was on his avatar when he 1st came to annies site & it sparked interest there. i truly believe no one should put any ones info out there

  235. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    You old hens must hate it that you can’t run me off.
    *****

    Considering that I’m younger than you, not to mention the current status of the SYM board’s lack of membership, I find this an extremely silly thing for you to say.

    We get banned en mass from SYM, but then you come over to another forum where we are just so you can talk with us?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    I’m guessing this sort of scenario wasn’t in the moderator’s handbook BM gave you, huh? There’s no other explanation for it! How utterly pathetic! LOL!!!

  236. itssal // June 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    Rescue – Once again, people are taking things out of context. He asked what names/nics people were using on his board so that people could be banned. There is no reason for multiple nics. He could care less who people are in real life.
    —————————————————–
    BS! It’s very odd how all of BM’s posts are taken out of context. That excuse is getting old. No reason for multiple nics-well you don’t own all the boards and you certainly aren’t a Mod for all of them. People can do what they want, and have the names that they want. Who the heck are you to make up the rules for all the forums/boards? I’m glad that I didn’t have the same name over there! Very glad. I see how you are chasing down everyone over here. Who is the old hen that needs a life, you are!

  237. Aw shucks Ducky too bad you can’t make me leave. Personally I don’t care what BigM has said to anybody. That is between him and them. I have not talked that way to anyone.

  238. At least I *CAN* write a book, Sal.

    And I can PUNCTUATE!

    And I can SPELL!

    And I can use GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT SENTENCE STRUCTURE!

    And I can THINK INTELLIGENTLY!

    And… best of all…

    I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THERE’S LOTS OF US WHO CAN DO ALL THIS AND MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How many can BM check off that list?

    I rest my case.

  239. I just find it funny that you all have spent days discussing BigM. Isn’t this blog supposed to be about Stacy Peterson’s disappearance?

  240. [homepage] [send pm]

    Joined: Apr 2008
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    Posts: 1,592
    Location: Chicago Heights, Illinois
    Cooperation is needed
    « Message sent on May 30, 2008, 8:07pm » [Reply] [Quote] [Delete]

    Anyone with info regarding who is Feisty, Facsmiley, and Anonymous is on my board Please reply by PM with info .

    Thank you
    BigM

  241. I don’t care if you stay. Just shut your pie-hole and leave people alone. If you cause trouble then I am sure that Gatehouse will take care of it. You came over to pick on Cfs again, it’s getting old. BTW-you should care what BM says, his foul language has been reported to the right people, and you are a Mod. So, it will come right back at you. Give it a few days, and when the board comes crashing down, don’t come crying to us. Sal-you didn’t have to come here several times today to cause trouble, did you?

    Can we all vote to skip over Sal’s comments? I know that I am done with her.

    Back to Ashley. Any more news?

  242. Sal, will you give him this and tell him he still hasn’t got me yet LOL

    ——I’m cleaning house ! for multiple reasons all members who are inactive non participating members have been banned .For Three days I have sat back and read an onslought of lies, Attacks, and twisted out of school tales about me and my board on word press, and now they have started on just thinkin, and Sal I’m sick of the back stabbing, two faced action of certain members . They hate me and my board yet they have been crying all day about getting banned If you don’t like my board just leave there is no reason to attack me my board and staff also want to clarify another lie at word press I’m not banning members because they disagree with me that is a ball faced lie period, I don’t expect nor want all members to agree with me all of the time that would make for a very boring board, and I don’t want puppets you are free to voice opinion and views on this board. Another lie at word press trying to say that just thinkin is behind the Ashley blog that is nonsense and lie with absolutely no factual basis to back such an accusation .

    I’m not going to sit back like some mamaluke and not say or do something so i’m starting today at cleaning house If I end up with only 25 good active members when all is said and done so be it .That is fine with me because I much rather have 25 members who were decent open minded individuals then 200 two faced back stabbing members .I’m a decent guy with strong opinions and not afraid to voice those opinions . I’m not always the most tactful at explaining myself or the most eloquent either but I promise you this i’m not the evil bad man that some are trying to portray me to be over at word press and anyone who would believe such nonsense is very weak minded .

    Also for those that think i’m some dummy that is just so Pro Drew that I believe everything about Drew Peterson to be Truthful and right is wayyyyy off base I promise you . I think Drew is a control freak, Narcissist Who who has some major issues that are negatives in his life via his own actions. That being said I like to keep an open mind and keep a wait and see attitude pertaining to this case, Because things are not always cut and dry sometimes you need to think outside the box at look at multiple angles . Another words Drew may be an Asshole, Lier, Control freak but that does not automaticaly make him guilty of murder. The members that are still here I have no problem with I want to add that . « Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:14pm by BigM » Link to Post – Back to Top Logged Just Thinkin’Administrator member is offline Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes.

  243. itssal, do you want to discuss it with us? Or do you want us to discuss it amongst ourselves so you can take it back to SYM and have something to talk about? Why don’t you do what the other three people left there do: Just read here quietly and leave the smart people to their work?

  244. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    So what’s new with the case … the Stacy Peterson case?
    *****

    Meanwhile, back at the chicken ranch…

    I am wondering if the GJ is actually going to be meeting at all this Thursday, as it falls during the beginning of the July 4th festivities. Anyone know if State buildings in IL will be closed on the 3rd? They will be closed up here, hence my query.

  245. Well, I’d like to get back on track. Would whoever is still granted permission to get answers from a “lawyer,” could you ask Brodsky more about what legal recourse he has now that Matt, the crime writer, has outted him and his client about their book ideas.

    Oh, and I am quite sure I saw Brodsky quoted in the newspaper saying he would have advised KS’s bf to lawyer up when going into the GJ for questioning, and to take the Fifth. I guess that means Brodsky was trying to pin the death on the bf. Now we hear it’s Stacy.

    Again, I need my Secret Decoder Book.

  246. Ducky – He did! That’s when wonder lawyer made those remarks – that he should have gotten a lawyer and plead the Fifth. That, after he’s been singing the tune that it was an accident, and he knows so because that’s what his client told him.

    Geesh, this guy blows with the wind. He wants everyone to think they’re Forest Gumps.

  247. Bash is very, very good at recalling conversations and discussion we’ve had here, so she would probably know this better than I.

    A while back we did have a discussion about the circumstances surrounding the death ruling of KS. But, my point is, someone said that maybe her death wasn’t staged to look like an accident at all – maybe in was meant to be stated to look like a murder.

    KS’s bf was out of town that weekend. He had spoken to her by phone a day, I believe, before she was last heard from. Brodsky, I think, pointed out some little tidbits about the bf having access to the house, etc., thus, his need for a lawyer and taking the Fifth at the GJ. At that time, we started talking about him possibly pursuing that avenue, trying to throw out there that the bf should be looked at. You know how Brodsky likes to do that.

    Anyway, when Glasgow first saw what he called the “crime scene” photos, he said he knew right away the scene was staged.

    It’s not that far fetched, is it, to think that DP may not have cared what her death was ruled, as long as he had an alibi and he was cleared. Heh?

  248. I love my husband!

    He heard me griping to myself about the plagarism on Ashley’s blog, and bless his heart, he said to me:

    “Don’t worry about it. Those guys (BM, et al) are just trying to make themselves look smarter.”

    I’m not going to write what my son said. I was going to ground him for it… but he was *right*, so I just couldn’t bring myself to do so! LOL!!!

  249. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    It’s not that far fetched, is it, to think that DP may not have cared what her death was ruled, as long as he had an alibi and he was cleared. Heh?
    *****

    Nope, not at all.

    I remember someone also mentioned that after being married to DP for X number of years, that he would *know* he bathing ritual; thus, if he wanted to make it look like an accident, he would have had her jewelry off and hair up, instead of not. If he wanted to make it look like a murder, then it might explain why those two KNOWN details about Kathleen’s bathing ritual were NOT done.

    Either way, as long as the finger of guilt wasn’t pointing in his direction, I think he would have signed her death off as a bungee jumping mishap, if it was up to him.

  250. lavandadolce // June 29, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    And I’m not an old hen. I’m a bunny
    Going to the chat room…see you all later. Have a good night.
    ———————————————————–
    I’m a young quacker, but Sal things that we are all old hens. But then again, she likes BM too.

    Ashley says that she has to talk to a “few” people this week. I wonder if she wised up? I hope that she stays safe. Messing with a suspected murderer is not that smart. IMO

  251. Holy palomino- lemme try that again:

    I remember someone also mentioned that after being married to *Kathleen* for X number of years, that he would *know* her bathing ritual; thus, if he wanted to make it look like an accident, he would have had her jewelry off and hair up, instead of not.

  252. I hope that none of the “several” people are reporters from the Enquirer…

    *sigh*

    That’s all these cases need… another possible prosecution witness shooting themselves in the foot just to make a buck…

  253. Drew Peterson completing the “perfect crime,” as he referred to it that night, doesn’t have to mean she was involved in an accident.

    Take for example LE’s theory with the disappearance and presumed death of SP. They have issued statements that they think he tried to frame Scott Rosetto after her disappearance, that being the reason he was he Shorewood using Stacy’s phone for a call to his.

    See, but the thing is, why bother doing this unless he thought her body might be found, which he disposed of somewhere in the Shorewood area.

    What I think complicates that is the fact that he went on a three day head clearing trip. What was he trying to accomplish by doing this? It’s very bazaar behavior to leave four children home in the care of others, knowing that they needed him during the sudden disappearance of their mother. Yeah, maybe he “knew” she left for the beach, but they didn’t know where she was, or if she was ever going to come back. Especially the little ones. They needed him and he took off.

    He took off to finish doing whatever he needed to do to either relocate her body, by means of another person or persons, or, well, I don’t know why he took off and left his children during this difficult time. Go figure.

  254. I have, and it broke my heart andmade me even more determined to do whatever I could to help make sure DP didn’t get away with her and Stacy’s deaths.

    He should have been behind bars years ago…

    Too bad he doesn’t come accessorized with a glowing neon warning label…

  255. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #371 Today at 4:37pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    (1) Is flirting on the internet dating? (He never met Ashley in person)
    (2) Are preliminary talks with a literary agent a “book deal”?

    Be careful and think things through before you accusing someone of misleading you.
    _______________
    Saw this from Joel on SYM in response to another post which is pretty long … and I don’t know that the person posts here, so I’m not going to quote it.

    Must go finish fixing dinner … back after that.

    🙂

  256. Ashley said…
    No amount of money would stop me from what I am doing or the things I am gonna post ..

    June 29, 2008 7:04 PM

  257. itssal – You old hens must hate it that you can’t run me off.
    **************************

    That’s OK. You’re welcome to stay. We know how dull it must be over at SYM without us there.

    Try to keep up with the conversation, though. If you find yourself falling behind, please don’t be afraid to ask for help.

    For starters, the words “right” and “write” mean different things.

    Dont’ worry. You’ll catch on. 😉

  258. Rescue, I think that once DP saw the massive amount of meadia attention Stacy’s disappearance was capturing early on, he realized that:

    1. People *weren’t* gonna buy his story that Stacy left him,

    2. That LE *was* gonna be looking for her body sooner than he expected because of that, and

    3. To try and make his assertion that Stacy left him for another man by using her cell to call his whilst in Scott’s neighborhood in order to “prove” that she was seeing other men, so LE wouldn’t arrive at the conclusion that his story was complete bunk, backfired on him, because then he REALLY needed to get HER out of Dodge and secret her in a better hiding place.

    1 + 1 + 1 = 3 day trip

  259. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #371 Today at 4:37pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    (1) Is flirting on the internet dating? (He never met Ashley in person)
    (2) Are preliminary talks with a literary agent a “book deal”?

    Be careful and think things through before you accusing someone of misleading you.

    Joel on SYM
    ********

    JOEL, I’m BEGGING ya- PLEASE take the 4 years of remedial refresher classes in Law… ASAP!!!

  260. Anonymous said…
    Ashley, Will you marry me?

    June 29, 2008 7:14 PM
    ********

    Gee, I wonder if he was jumping up and down on the couch on Oprah’s show when he said this… 🙂

  261. Ok, guess I’ve been working to much and am out of the loop here. What is this SYM site? Does it stand for Shut Your Mouth, since people are getting banned from there? And Sal your comment about old hens, hate to disappoint you but I’m not a hen, I’m a c*ck.

  262. So let’s presume that Ashley is for real, and she didn’t do this for sinister reasons.

    Why is she so hell bent on doing what she is doing?

    I think it’s pretty clear that a good majority of people think Drew is a scumbag.

    Is she giving anyone anything we all didn’t know before?

    I’m sorry but there is something sick about her to me. I’m not defending Drew at all, just pointing out that she doesn’t seem to be the most stable person herself.

  263. LTTBF, I think she’s helping to confirm in some of the general population’s minds that DP really *is* a compulsive, manipulative liar.

    That’s all.

    Well, and probably making Kim feel stupid for dating him in person, but everyone already knew that but her, so no big deal.

  264. I wonder……does anyone here also have the same problem I have….everytime I see “BM”
    I don’t think it means Big Mike….get my drift ? lmao..sorry OT…back to the case !!!

  265. Basherette – but, see, that’s just it. If he got her out of Dodge, of course, there’s another person/s involved. The easy answer is MRobinson, or at least it’s easy to believe so, because he’s just as cagey as DP. Was he gone for three days or out of the picture too? Wonder about that.

    Another thing that’s not that far fetched to think – he enlisted help to go back and get her body, then drive out-of-town and dispose of it. If that is the case, and it’s reaching, I know, involving other people is never a good thing, is it? Someone, somehow, somewhere down the line is going to expose him, and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

  266. I would love her to post the whole im, not just the pieces she wants us to see.

    I have a feeling she is hiding some stuff about what she has said, and just wants to show the fluff.

    Something is just very strange about it to me.

  267. And I agree, there is something “off” when you’re publicly, visually and audibly trying to out-weasel a weasel.

    I don’t think it’s very likely she got any professional advice before she decided to out him.

  268. And that makes me question just how safe she is…

    I hope ISP isn’t diddling around with that email instead of following up on it…

  269. I’m thinking she is not showing us the parts where she is declaring her love of him etc.

    And why in God’s name would anyone want to pu tthemselves smack dab in the middle of this mess?

    Her life could become a living H***, and then she’ll be whining.

  270. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #371 Today at 4:37pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    (1) Is flirting on the internet dating? (He never met Ashley in person)
    (2) Are preliminary talks with a literary agent a “book deal”?

    Be careful and think things through before you accusing someone of misleading you.

    Joel on SYM

    *************
    (1) No, but why go to all of the trouble to stage a video showing the client as a Mr. Mom, taking care of little people, doing grocery shopping, making dinner, when, in all reality, the guy is trolling on the Internet, trying to set up meetings with women? Or, on the other hand, as I saw it, have them come into his home. Strangers that he doesn’t even know, but may be wise to who he is. Gee, “Mr.” Brodsky, what if he did bring someone into his home and she turned out to me a nut job, hellbent on wiping that smirk right off his face by blowing it off????? Now, that would be very traumatic for the children, don’t you think? Not the plants next door, but their father bringing strange women into his home.

    2) “Mr.” Brodsky – no one here gives a rats ass about a book deal. What we’re focusing on is what the gentleman said. Your client gave him the creeps and made the hair on the back of his neck stand up. Said he wanted the writer to write the book in a way that dirties up his ex-wife and his present wife, and he had the “dish” to do it. Said he wanted the writer to write the book in a way that insinuated Kathleen was killed by Stacy.

    Okay, I’m done now. And I didn’t even go to law school.

  271. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    So let’s presume that Ashley is for real, and she didn’t do this for sinister reasons.

    Why is she so hell bent on doing what she is doing?

    I think it’s pretty clear that a good majority of people think Drew is a scumbag.

    Is she giving anyone anything we all didn’t know before?

    I’m sorry but there is something sick about her to me. I’m not defending Drew at all, just pointing out that she doesn’t seem to be the most stable person herself.

    and

    letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    I’m thinking she is not showing us the parts where she is declaring her love of him etc.

    And why in God’s name would anyone want to pu tthemselves smack dab in the middle of this mess?

    Her life could become a living H***, and then she’ll be whining.
    ______________
    Is she holding out with the big one … a confession?

    I assumed the parts she hid were parts that were about her own life … but worth asking about.

  272. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    I’m thinking she is not showing us the parts where she is declaring her love of him etc.

    And why in God’s name would anyone want to pu tthemselves smack dab in the middle of this mess?

    Her life could become a living H***, and then she’ll be whining.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Sometimes it takes strong people to step up to the plate and do the right thing.

    I think this Ashley is a very strong person and it is just to bad she wasn’t a friend of Stacy’s in the begining, maybe things would have been different.

  273. joelbrodsky
    Member

    member is online

    Re: Ashley.Gabrys Blog Discussion
    « Reply #155 Today at 6:20pm »

    I can prove that the Author M. William Phelps, a/k/a Matthew Phelps, is lying:

    1. First we just checked the phone records and the call he refers to lasted 64 minutes, not 3 hours.

    2. He was not so disgusted that he had to go take a shower after our call. In fact he was the only reason he was turned off of the deal was Joe Hosey’s book would interfere with his profits. Even then he wanted to enter into further discussions. Here is the e-mail that proves it:

    From: M. William Phelps [mailto:mwilliamphelps@comcast.net]
    Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:54 AM
    To: glenn@thepublicityagency.com
    Subject: Drew Peterson

    Glenn,

    We’re going to have to discuss this: Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson (Hardcover)
    by Joseph Hosey (NAL; July 1, 2008).

    This puts a wet blanket on what we discussed on Saturday. It brings the value of what I would do down considerably. I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.

    I’ll look forward to your call with Joel and Drew at 10:00 this morning. 860-870-****

    Thanks,
    ____________________________________________________
    M. William Phelps
    Investigative Journalist, Author
    PO Box 3215
    Vernon, CT 06066-2115
    World Wide Web: http://www.mwilliamphelps.com

    His agent and Phelps cancelled the follow up conference call and it never happened.

  274. noway – what hasn’t she been stopped by ISP?

    Well, in Ric Mims case, when the stopped him, they knew who he was and how to find him. That’s not necessarily the case right now with her. Yeah, maybe they will find her and soon, but I don’t know if they can do that so quickly. There’s routers, providers, areas, sections, well, you know what I mean. I’m not really sure how it works, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes a few days or so. Heh?

  275. MAYBE there’s another person involved (<– yes, that’s how you really spell this word, BM), Rescue- MAYBE.

    Got a body to get rid of?
    Got a motorcycle as your mode of transportation?
    Only got 3 days to do it and be back again?

    *****DON’T READ THIS CAUSE IT’S GROSS*****

    Well, got a chainsaw, a Hefty bag and a knapsack?

    Make a pit stop every once in a while, toss a few pieces into the ditches, trees, restroom garbage cans, gas station dumpsters, ponds, lakes, etc., and ride on.

    Leave motorcycle with buddy to get it detailed, catch a ride back home, and VOILA’, PRESTO!!!

    Eeeeeeeewwwwwww… sometimes I really hate it when I think this friggin’ shite up tryin’ to think like he might…

  276. Here I come to save the day:

    joelbrodsky
    Member

    member is online

    Joined: May 2008
    Posts: 125
    Re: Ashley.Gabrys Blog Discussion
    « Result #5 Today at 7:20pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    I can prove that the Author M. William Phelps, a/k/a Matthew Phelps, is lying:

    1. First we just checked the phone records and the call he refers to lasted 64 minutes, not 3 hours.

    2. He was not so disgusted that he had to go take a shower after our call. In fact he was the only reason he was turned off of the deal was Joe Hosey’s book would interfere with his profits. Even then he wanted to enter into further discussions. Here is the e-mail that proves it:

    From: M. William Phelps [mailto:mwilliamphelps@comcast.net]
    Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:54 AM
    To: glenn@thepublicityagency.com
    Subject: Drew Peterson

    Glenn,

    We’re going to have to discuss this: Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson (Hardcover)
    by Joseph Hosey (NAL; July 1, 2008).

    This puts a wet blanket on what we discussed on Saturday. It brings the value of what I would do down considerably. I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.

    I’ll look forward to your call with Joel and Drew at 10:00 this morning. 860-870-****

    Thanks,
    ____________________________________________________
    M. William Phelps
    Investigative Journalist, Author
    PO Box 3215
    Vernon, CT 06066-2115
    World Wide Web: http://www.mwilliamphelps.com

    His agent and Phelps cancelled the follow up conference call and it never happened.

  277. Noway, thats exactly what I’m thinking, it’s all very curious.

    As far as him “trolling” the internet for companionship, let’s not forget that Stacy herself was having exchange with a certain male with “racy” text messages.

    I’m not saying either is right or wrong, but if we are too look at it open eyes, we have to look at them both.

    And the majority of what she has posted as been exchanges between them in the late evening hours, well after the kids should have been in bed.

  278. Why do I have a really twisted version of “Gee, Officer Krupke” going through my head, with the lyrics changed to “Gee, Barrister Brodsky”???

    I really am going to go to hell for this one…

  279. Sorry … that post above was all Joel even though there is a line across it like I do!

    I did post after him and ask what recourse he had as far as legal action against Matt Phelps. Will let you know if I get a response.

    Rescue, I meant “why” hasn’t she been stopped. Did I type “what”?

  280. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Noway, thats exactly what I’m thinking, it’s all very curious.

    As far as him “trolling” the internet for companionship, let’s not forget that Stacy herself was having exchange with a certain male with “racy” text messages.

    I’m not saying either is right or wrong, but if we are too look at it open eyes, we have to look at them both.

    And the majority of what she has posted as been exchanges between them in the late evening hours, well after the kids should have been in bed.
    ______________
    So there is Stacy upstairs in bed, texting racy texts, and Drew downstairs on the computer chatting away and playing with the kids’ stuffed animals.

    Ahh … a match made in heaven.

    😦

  281. I asked Ashley how they first met, random etc. She answered that Drew PM’d her and it went from there. Wait, PM is from a forum? Now, I don’t believe how she met him. I think that it was on SYM and that is why they did the mass banning. JMO

  282. joelbrodsky
    Member

    member is online

    Re: Ashley.Gabrys Blog Discussion
    « Reply #155 Today at 6:20pm »

    I can prove that the Author M. William Phelps, a/k/a Matthew Phelps, is lying:

    1. First we just checked the phone records and the call he refers to lasted 64 minutes, not 3 hours.
    *************

    RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT… and those would be the phone records that you have NO ACCESS TO, according to several earlier statements you made, right Joel?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

  283. 2. He was not so disgusted that he had to go take a shower after our call.
    ********

    How do YOU know- did you draw a bubble bath for him instead?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  284. In fact he was the only reason he was turned off of the deal was Joe Hosey’s book would interfere with his profits. Even then he wanted to enter into further discussions. Here is the e-mail that proves it:

    From: M. William Phelps [mailto:mwilliamphelps@comcast.net]
    Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:54 AM
    To: glenn@thepublicityagency.com
    Subject: Drew Peterson

    Glenn,

    We’re going to have to discuss this: Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson (Hardcover)
    by Joseph Hosey (NAL; July 1, 2008).

    This puts a wet blanket on what we discussed on Saturday. It brings the value of what I would do down considerably. I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.

    I’ll look forward to your call with Joel and Drew at 10:00 this morning. 860-870-****

    Thanks,
    ____________________________________________________
    M. William Phelps
    Investigative Journalist, Author
    PO Box 3215
    Vernon, CT 06066-2115
    World Wide Web: http://www.mwilliamphelps.com
    **************

    “And here’s the email to PROVE it”… ?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

    Two (that’s 2) words, Brodsky:

    SCREEN SHOTS!!!

  285. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Ducky….Good work!!!!
    ——————————————————-
    Thank you. Why is she lying? I really thought that she was sincere. I’m sure that their little chats did happen, but I bet you that they met at SYM. ICK!

  286. duckyone // June 29, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    I asked Ashley how they first met, random etc. She answered that Drew PM’d her and it went from there. Wait, PM is from a forum? Now, I don’t believe how she met him. I think that it was on SYM and that is why they did the mass banning. JMO
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    If you have a persons aim or yahoo mail or chat name you can send them a PM without having them on a friends list.

  287. “His agent and Phelps cancelled the follow up conference call and it never happened.”
    *******

    Again, two (that’s 2) words, Brodsky:

    PROVE IT!!!!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

  288. There is much more to her story then she is sharing, and it stinks to high heaven.

    It will come out though, just watch!!!!!

  289. Ducky, yahoo chats you can PM someone … I think it’s called Messenger.

    My hubby has yahoo account. 🙂 No, he’s not been chatting with Drew or Ashley. 😉

  290. In other words if I know your chat name on yahoo or your yahoo email and I can send you a pm right now.

  291. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    duckyone // June 29, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    I asked Ashley how they first met, random etc. She answered that Drew PM’d her and it went from there. Wait, PM is from a forum? Now, I don’t believe how she met him. I think that it was on SYM and that is why they did the mass banning. JMO
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    If you have a persons aim or yahoo mail or chat name you can send them a PM without having them on a friends list.
    ——————————————————-
    Ashley said that Drew PM’d her. He has aim and she has yahoo. There is no way that it was a “random” act, and then the conversation went from there. Am I that out of the loop of online dating. hehe

  292. Why is she so sure Drew does not have any photos of her? Can you do something to your webcam that prevents that?

    Anyone know?

  293. I think its a play on words. On message boards and forums, people usually refer to them as pm’s. On yahoo, aol, aim etc people refer to them as im’s.

  294. Where does it say it would bring down his profits, “Mr.” Brodsky. It says it would bring down the “value” of what I would do considerably. It doesn’t say it would cut into his profits. Reader value?????????

    “This puts a wet blanket on what we discussed on Saturday. It brings the value of what I would do down considerably. I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.”

    What in the above proves he is a liar. He didn’t put in writing his other idea. He, further, thought better of continuing with the deal by canceling the follow-up meeting.

    Ah, I’m not getting it.

  295. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Ducky, yahoo chats you can PM someone … I think it’s called Messenger.

    My hubby has yahoo account. No, he’s not been chatting with Drew or Ashley.
    ——————————————————-
    I’m sure that your hubby hasn’t been PMing anyone. You are special and he can’t be that stupid. lol

    If you have never been on a forum/board, you would never say PM.

    Time will tell. I just thought that it was a strange response.

  296. They are chatting on yahoo so I assume he has a yahoo account too.

    If you have yahoo chat send him a pm at this addy bpd959. Maybe he will answer.

  297. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Why is she so sure Drew does not have any photos of her? Can you do something to your webcam that prevents that?

    Anyone know?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    She probably doesn’t have a webcam

  298. Did she say she has NEVER been a member? I know someone asked if she IS a member of any forumboard.

    I posted the question again and asked if she EVER was.

    I’m sure Drew posted on many a forum/board/blog under his own username or others, I don’t know. But he was there. IMO

  299. iknoweverythinglol // June 29, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Why is she so sure Drew does not have any photos of her? Can you do something to your webcam that prevents that?

    Anyone know?
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    She probably doesn’t have a webcam
    __________
    She said something about now that he knows what she looks like … oh, maybe she sent him a picture (lol … probably scanned one of those that comes in photograph frames … 😀 )

    Do I WANT to IM or PM … or any M Drew Peterson. NO. WAY.

    😦

  300. Ah, I take back he didn’t put in writing his other idea. There’s no way to tell what is in that email. We may only be looking at the parts Brodsky wants us to see.

    One thing is for sure, he’s on a campaign to plug the cracks in the dam.

  301. I think it’s a lttle more reasonable to assume that she DOES have a webcam, but chose not to disclose that information, hmmm?

  302. Great… “Gee, Officer Krupke” that changed to “Gee, Barrister Brodsky” has now segued into “Gee, Psychopath Drew P.”…

    I’m afraid that I am damned.

  303. Guys, I’m telling you, there is more to this than meets the eye. This other Ashley also had two emails accounts that were posted. One on here months ago, and even thought I remembers it, lets just say it started with wpatt…@yahoo. Can’t remember the one posted at SYM, but sure it’s still there.

    Funny thing about this Ashley stuff is Drew had not laid eyes on her on March 16, but byApril 16 he wanted to propose to her on Oprah. That really may have been a joke Drew was trying to make, who knows.

    We can all be whoever you want to be on the Internet, and say whatever we want to say. Some are truthful, some are not.

  304. I’m getting off my email to Mr. Phelps. Copied and pasted Brodsky’s follow-up to his email, and calling him a liar.

    BRB.

  305. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Ah, I take back he didn’t put in writing his other idea. There’s no way to tell what is in that email. We may only be looking at the parts Brodsky wants us to see.

    One thing is for sure, he’s on a campaign to plug the cracks in the dam.
    _________
    That too has been pointed out to JB. 😀

  306. Someone earlier asked if Ashley had managed to get Drew to “confess”- here’s her answer:

    Ashley said…
    Posting Lil snippets of conversations for right now because its just what needs to be done , not to be rude but anyone that dont like it dont have to come here , and if anyone thinks that I might have got drew to come right out and say he killed Kathleen or Stacy well thats not the case nor did I ever imply that from the start , once I talk to a few people this week the post will be different ..

    June 29, 2008 6:29 PM

  307. What puzzles me about the Ashley thing, though, is the recent email that DP sent. Isn’t that legitimate? Why would he even THINK of doing that if this whole mess was a figment of her imagination or a scam?

  308. Okay, well, I copied JB’s complete response to the Phelps thing and sent it to the email address posted. We’ll see what happens.

  309. scott15 // June 29, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Cfs, the email for Ashley you said started with wpatt….@yahoo.com is the same one that Exlaw posted here months ago.
    ******

    Oh, you have *got* to be kidding me… but somehow I have a feeling that you’re not…

  310. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    What puzzles me about the Ashley thing, though, is the recent email that DP sent. Isn’t that legitimate? Why would he even THINK of doing that if this whole mess was a figment of her imagination or a scam?
    *******************************

    Yes, could she really have kept up the charade so well and for so long that Drew still believes it was legit, even after she posted that first webcam picture?

    Truth be told, whether theinvolvement was with a woman scorned or a prankster I still think it reflects way worse on Drew than on Ashley. No one has denied that his words were sincere and that he was engaging in a flirtation with yet another young woman while the mother of his kids is missing.

    I’d feel more sure about this Ashley if she had prefaced her blog with some background ie. ‘In March of 2008 I set out on a mission to entrap DP and see just what kind of a dog he is…” or even “In March 2008, by chance I met DP online and began what I felt could be a true romance…” but she’s not really laying either of those scenarios out there.

    It is puzzling.

  311. Let’s say that Ashley is Exlaw, she was very PO’d here when it was said that Drew was seeing Denise. And she kept asking the guy (John I think) alot of info about Denise and where they were hanging out together.

  312. Ashley said…
    No I do not belong to any forums – blogs – myspace – etc , just yahoo I promise that and I say pm because to me thats what it is a Private Message ..

    June 29, 2008 8:15 PM

  313. Noway – if you go back to SYM, could you post on there that one of the bloggers here (me:)) sent an email to Matt Phelps, being his response to the radio interview, and the email he posted from Mr. Phelps.

    When does it ever end? When will everyone but Drew and Joel stop lying and making up stories just to hurt and discredit Drew? It’s so sad, isn’t it?????

  314. rom: M. William Phelps

    I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.
    ********************************

    I wish I knew what the other idea was. I guess he thought better of it though, since he didn’t make that follow-up call.

  315. giveitarest // June 29, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Ashley said…
    No I do not belong to any forums – blogs – myspace – etc , just yahoo I promise that and I say pm because to me thats what it is a Private Message ..

    June 29, 2008 8:15 PM

    So I am suppose to believe that Drew just did a chance pm and got a hold of her? Just out of the blue? By chance? She had nothing to do with him getting a hold of her? Drew is alot of things but I do think he is smarter than that, if he wasn’t he would have slipped by now on what he has done to his wifes.

  316. facsmiley – unless we get the email from the source, we’ll never know all that was in there. We may only be seeing parts of it.

    And, basherette made a good observation. Joel made comments about not being able to get phone records the way LE can. I believe they were on a conference call, on a land line, so how was he able to get that information so quickly, if that is even true? I don’t believe a word that comes out of Brodsky’s mouth

    After all, he’s the one that said there was no book deal in the works, right around the time this was going on. He’s full of ****.

  317. scott15 said: …Drew is alot of things but I do think he is smarter than that, if he wasn’t he would have slipped by now on what he has done to his wifes.
    ====================

    While I agree he is “knowledgeable,” at best, on the art of wiping out wives, Scott, I am afraid he is not using the head on his shoulders to do his thinking sometimes and lets “the other one” do the thinking. Heh?

    🙂

  318. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Noway – if you go back to SYM, could you post on there that one of the bloggers here (me:)) sent an email to Matt Phelps, being his response to the radio interview, and the email he posted from Mr. Phelps.
    _______________

    Like this: One of the posters from WP sent an email to Matt Phelps with Joel’s response to the radio interview and the email Joel poosted from Mr. Phelps.

    I guess we’ll wait and see if she gets a response.

    _____

    Sound okay?

  319. I think there’s probably some truth in Joel’s response about why the book deal fell through, but the significance of it is lost on me.

    Phelps said that talking to Drew creeped him out but he also said that he would have considered writing the book if he thought that there was a complete story to be told – and there just wasn’t.

    The only thing the email shows is that Phelps had yet another concern – that Hosey’s book was already in the works and had a publisher, which would significantly impact a market for any book Phelps might write.

    Nowhere, in that email did I see any proof of slander nor that Phelps found Drew to be anything other than the arrogant creep he described.

    You don’t have to feel good about someone to want to write a book about him. For heavens sake, the man is a True Crime writer. He writes about creeps for a living! I’ll bet he took a good long hot shower.

  320. scott15 // June 29, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    giveitarest // June 29, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Ashley said…
    No I do not belong to any forums – blogs – myspace – etc , just yahoo I promise that and I say pm because to me thats what it is a Private Message ..

    June 29, 2008 8:15 PM

    So I am suppose to believe that Drew just did a chance pm and got a hold of her? Just out of the blue? By chance? She had nothing to do with him getting a hold of her? Drew is alot of things but I do think he is smarter than that, if he wasn’t he would have slipped by now on what he has done to his wifes.
    ______________
    IMO this was a carefully orchestrated setup as far as the “chance” meeting between Drew and Ashley.

    I too await the details with curiousity more than anything.

  321. Getting back to the Matt Phelps thing. Whatever Brodsky throws out there, do you think it’s a possibility LE will contact this man and ask him to divulge what was discussed, or, in the alternative, issue a subpoena for him to appear before the GJ?

    It is interesting that Brodsky is working on comebacks to this whole thing. Why is he throwing all of this stuff out on a blog, rather than dealing with it in a legal, dignified way, as it should be?

  322. I hope it was a setup all the way. If it was she deserves every award she can get. She is a great person for doing this.

  323. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Getting back to the Matt Phelps thing. Whatever Brodsky throws out there, do you think it’s a possibility LE will contact this man and ask him to divulge what was discussed, or, in the alternative, issue a subpoena for him to appear before the GJ?

    It is interesting that Brodsky is working on comebacks to this whole thing. Why is he throwing all of this stuff out on a blog, rather than dealing with it in a legal, dignified way, as it should be?
    _____________
    1) Who says this man has not already testified before the GJ. A crime writer should know to go to the police after contact like this from a murder suspect.

    2) Because he is Joel Brodsky.

    😀

    Message posted at SYM regarding your email.

  324. Scott, I’d send ya a beer for remembering this if I could!
    ****************

    SHOWTIME, FOLKS!

    From Word Press:

    exlawenforcement // April 21, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    John let me know what you decide to do. Everyone is right about trusting just anyone. I am working on a couple of ideas too. Steve Dahl 104.3 would love this, his e mail address is heywhatsup@dahl.com.. My e mail is w.patterson@yahoo.com if you want to send anything there for me, if not thats okay too.What age is the other child of Denise ? Do you know her daughters name ?
    *******

    exlawenforcement // April 21, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    John: I am at w.patterson88@yahoo.com, sorry I forgot the 88. its been a long day for me. I have e mailed Danya hooker on this site,steve dahl at 104.3, kristy Mergenthal, the newsroom and regular news line. Another friend with Pd posted on Fox news blogs. I will do so later. I also used the email to contact Stacys family too. I will let you know what else I have come up with tomorrow, I worked 11 hours today and have a long day tomorrow. Hang in there with all of us on here we can and will help you. If any of you have other ideas please say so, John needs our help. This may save someones life.

  325. Sorry, forgot to add that I got these from the April 18th, 2008 “The Search For Stacy: Week In Review” thread here at WP.

    Eat yer heart out, exlax…

  326. Let’s try this again since it didnt go the first time.

    Rescue- he is thinking with the head that like womaen atleast 20 yrs younger than him.

    Iknow-He may be going to jail but I’m a realist and will believe it when it happens. After all I thought Oj and Michael Jackson both were going to jail and look what happened. It’s not a matter of right or wrong but who’s attorney is a better con artist. At least we have a chance for justice with Brodsky.

    Sorry if this posted twice, I didnt see it post the first time.

  327. facsmiley // June 29, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    rom: M. William Phelps

    I do have another idea to discuss with all of you, however.
    ********************************

    I wish I knew what the other idea was. I guess he thought better of it though, since he didn’t make that follow-up call.
    ***********

    Seppuku, perhaps?

  328. Scott, just wanted to let you know that I was aware of the entire email address and who posted it, but wasn’t going to publish it. It’s okay with me that you did, but I just chose not to. After it was posted I kept trying to figure out if this poster was connected to Marcus Patterson, the former BB police officer, but came to the conclusion they were not, or that I wasn’t sure that they were.

    All of this may be total speculation, and there’s so much more that I could post, but it’s all there for anyone that is interested in digging it up. Funny thing, I never started digging until I was accused of it at SYM. Felt there had to be a reason why some people got their bows bent out of shape because I asked a simple question. Then got accused of trying to out a member. Go figure. It was like they were trying to protect this person for some reason, so I wanted to try to figure out why. May be totally off base, but there’s too much out there not to wonder about it.

  329. scott15 // June 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Hey Bash, you want my addy to send that beer? I was going by memory, good job on finding that.
    ******
    You totally deserve a case, not just one!

    And of course I was gonna find that sucker- I have “no life”, at least according to some rather disgruntled miscreants, so what else am I gonna do with my time?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  330. Bash, are you saying that the email address Exlaw provided in that WP post is the same email Ashley has provided?

    Oh “carp” … well, I need to go spend some time with my family. And things are getting so interesting.

  331. He is so gross! I kept telling my girlfriend that he was pulling his ear to send someone a message. No wonder the writer had to take a shower after speaking with Drew, he is just that sick.

    Exlaw-so, that would me that Ashley lied to me about the PM’s? What a shock.

    Those poor kids! Seriously.

  332. The bard comment was in regard to Ashley’s latest ear tugging post, not Bash and the previous Exlaw posts.

    BBL

    😀

  333. transcribed just cuz you never know when things will disappear (guess I could have just saved the image, huh?)

    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:34:05 PM): are you there?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:34:40 PM): here get my message
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:34:55 PM): um no … what message?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:11 PM): my larry king message
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:35:31 PM): oh yessssssssssssssssss i did ….you made me smile so big
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:58 PM): that was my intention
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:03 PM): were talking about you pulling on your earlobe to say you love me correct?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:36:18 PM): yep
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:39 PM): yea i got it. you did it a few times, Drew you mad me smile
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:10 PM): well i was gonna propose on national tv
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:37:30 PM): if you would had done that i would have called in and said yes
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:58 PM): now you tell me you said not to
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:38:21 PM): i felt so bad when you were talking about lacy not having a mom & then you pulled on your earlobe at the same time
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:38:39 PM): i did that on purpose
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:39:14 PM): did you ?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:39:27 PM): you know i did
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:39:57 PM): well i kinda took it as a “i need you Ashley to be here with me & them ”
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:40:23 PM): then my message was clear

  334. Sorry back all.

    Scott, nice seeing you again.

    I think whomever Ashley is, she is playing a dangerous game.

    Who is this “John” that ExLaw is referring to?

  335. Now that this has come to light, I wrote an opinion on it at 4:14 pm this afternoon if you haven’t seen it Scott. May be off base, but something is fishy about this trio of events.

  336. Facs-that transcribe you posted, the ear tugging thing ‘John’ had said that was for Denise and that is when Exlaw got upset.

  337. Except for young Scott here, many of us are old enough to remember “Peyton Place,” right?

    This is one big Peyton Place.

  338. No, I’m saying that the email addy I found for Exlaxlaw that Scott remembered when he saw part of the email addy that CFS7360 busted her computer’s bullocks researching is POSSIBLY the same as one of the email addies that “Ashley” uses.

    Whew… that was a long sentence!!!

    I have to say, sometimes it’s just SOOOO much easier to regularly use “big” and/or “hard to understand” words in my posts that BM has to look up, rather than try to untangle what the bloody heck is going on with these cases…

    Oy vey…

  339. OMG! I was up too late slept too late and thought I would never make it thru the comments here to the end. Phew!
    So if dp and ashley were in a chat room they have pm’s there? could be how the “chance” thing happened. I would never called an IM a PM unless I spent a considerable amount of time in a chat room or discussion forum. I have yahoo im, myspace im, had others before, but it has ALWAYS been called pm in chat or forums, so I am suspicious of her answer. I doubt that she is lying just to be deceptive maybe it is just to protect some info and her agenda/identity for now.

  340. NOWAY…That post was from Me…my nic on there is Justiceserved and you are more than welcome to post whatever you would like that I wrote!

    basherette // June 29, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #371 Today at 4:37pm »

    ——————————————————————————–
    (1) Is flirting on the internet dating? (He never met Ashley in person)
    (2) Are preliminary talks with a literary agent a “book deal”?

    Be careful and think things through before you accusing someone of misleading you.

    Joel on SYM
    ********

    JOEL, I’m BEGGING ya- PLEASE take the 4 years of remedial refresher classes in Law… ASAP!!!

    lol Bash…I right there with you…I responded to that too!

    btw…what’s up with Walla Walla? “the place that’s so nice they named it twice”

    you from there? I grew up there!!!

  341. Scott – I don’t know why, not by anything you said, but I got in my head that you are late 20’s, maybe early 30’s. If you are, then I am psychic!

  342. scott15 // June 29, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Facs-that transcribe you posted, the ear tugging thing ‘John’ had said that was for Denise and that is when Exlaw got upset.
    ********************

    But imagine that she just had a super crush on the creep. Mightn’t she act the same way? I think it was pretty clear (no matter what she said) that she was very interested in him in a romantic fashion. I don’t want to fall into that trap of thinking that the people we know are the only players in this case. I think the Internet is way bigger than our little lot.

    If it turns out Ashley=Exlaw then I’ll eat my hat. But I don’t think it is.

    Can someone who still has access to SYM just ask her?

  343. You guys do know how easy it is to change pm’s and im’s, right?

    She could have easily had a conversation with him, saved the copy…as she has a folder labeled Drew, and they just changed the text.

  344. lavandadolce // June 29, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    ROFL. He’s 54 and looks 30 and acts 20? WHO told him he looks 30? ROFLMAO
    _____________________

    He sure has an active imagination doesn’t he! He thinks he looks 30, but most people who look at him see a man who looks about 65 yrs old.

  345. Aw, Scott, but you “sound” younger. I can’t say “look younger,” LOL. I think that’s a compliment, but take as one anyway. It’s nice blogging with you!

  346. Hello Dearheart!

    Gosh I hope Ashley didn’t think that ear tug was meant only for her.

    I mean he was “propally” juggling at least three women at that point. 🙂

  347. Good night, Scott. Must be where I got in my mind you were “younger.” Your long, long work hours.

  348. Facs, it might not be, but I have seen that her name is Ashley too, and she lives south of Drew. Lots of strange coincidences here. Some make sense, some don’t.

  349. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    You guys do know how easy it is to change pm’s and im’s, right?

    She could have easily had a conversation with him, saved the copy…as she has a folder labeled Drew, and they just changed the text.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    If what was said to ashley was not true I think jb or dp would have said so by now, don’t you?

  350. myblue, I’m sure they would have.

    I’m just thinking outloud I guess, trying to figure this out.

  351. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Exlaw has already commented on your comments here about her being Ashley.

    She says it IS NOT true.
    ++++++++++
    If she says it isn’t, then she must be telling the truth. Sorry Exlaw, just a lot of coincidences out there, unfortunately. Thanks Noway for the info.

  352. Why doesn’t exlaw just come here to post? She’s not banned here like everyone here is there?

    Does that make sense? Who’s on first? What’s on second.

  353. Sorry, folks… I just *really* needed to hug my husband and sons and call my daughter after that…

    Anyone ever heard of “Gaslighting”?

  354. Aw, beans…

    Dearheart88, I’m really sorry… please don’t hate me, but I actually use the expression “Walla Walla, Washington” to describe a person’s, um, posterior.

    It just sounds funnier to me than saying “arse” all the bloody time…

  355. I just feel like that’s what’s been happening alot lately… to me… with regards to these cases/other forums/etc.

    You know what I mean? I can’t really think of any other way to describe what I’m feeling…

  356. lol

    that’s funny!!!!

    ever been there? some do have big ones!!!

    I only lived there until I was 10 years old must have brought some of it with me because I got a big ole butt!! rotflmao!!!

    I’ll have to remember this when I go to visit next year!

    maybe I’ll even take pictures! ha ha ha

    “big bootie hunt..Walla Walla style”

  357. Well, we probably all feel a little psychologically abused from all of the information that has been withheld in this case, and that’s why we’re trying to creat our own, I guess, lol. IT’S DRIVING US CRAZY!!!!!

    I thought maybe you thought Rescue’s question about Ex not coming over here to post was because she surely wouldn’t want to be psychologically tortured by us, lol.

  358. Oh, G*d forbid that I ever gaslight anyone! I’d *never* be able to live with myself…

    I do feel kinda special that you thought I might be into phychological torture though… you naughty wench!!!

  359. I just pulled up M William Phelps, and it seems he has a new book coming out, could it be that his comment might help in with sales of his upcoming book?

    Not saying it is, but it is curious also.

    With nearly 600,000 copies of his books in print, Phelps’s titles include: Perfect Poison, Lethal Guardian, Every Move You Make, Sleep In Heavenly Peace, Murder in the Heartland, Because You Loved Me, If Looks Could Kill (spring 2008). Coming in the summer of 2008, I’ll Be Watching You, a book about serial killer Edwin “Ned” Snelgrove. Phelps biography of patriot Nathan Hale will be out in the fall of 2008. Beyond that Phelps is also writing a book about the murder of Susan Fassett, a Pleasant Valley, NY, woman who was gunned down after attending choir practice, and also collecting research for his next two history books, a biography of Silas Deane, America’s first foreign ambassador; and a biography of Revolutionary War hero Col. Thomas Knowlton, who has been called the man who started the Green Berets.

    In August 2008, Phelps will also publish Failures of the Presidents: Our Leaders’ Worst Decisions from the Dred Scott Case to Watergate to the Bay of Pigs to Iraq (Fairwinds Press), which he is co-writing with acclaimed author Thomas Craughwell.

    Phelps lives in a small Connecticut farming community with his wife, children and Labrador.

  360. cfs-the past two days have been mental torture. I need a weekend to recoup from the weekend news. A few showers might help too. That last post did me in. The night that I saw the LK show, I knew that he was signaling to someone. I bet that Kim was told the same thing. Kim and Drew met as early as March 8.

  361. Will ya lookie at *that*… you got me so tickled that I misspelled “psychological”, Cfs7360!!! 🙂

  362. I posted a Q to Joel that I want to share…still haven’t gotten a response and doubt that I will…he usually answers questions WITH questions

    so annoying

    but anyway here’s the question in a nutshell

    If Drew is so convinced that Stacy left him how does he not know that she’ll walk through the door at any second? that being said she’s done a good job of “hiding” but how does he not know that she may return wait for him to leave and enter the house and take the kids and disappear again?

    I personally think that if he truly believe she left this would be something that would really concern him no? she could take the kids and never been seen again…so far she’s done a bang up job of hiding for the last 8 months..I know if I were in this situation that would be one of my biggest if not THE biggest concern

    he leaves those kids alone A LOT…apparently no security system or cameras even though his “life has been threatened” and his house has been egged…leaving the kids home alone is one thing when your life is possibly in danger…but leaving them home when his hormonal wife could return and take the kids is another

    we’ll see if he responds…I doubt he will…but my question has got some thinking..even exlaw said it was a good question and point

  363. 😀
    Ex asked me to tell my WordPress cobloggers that she is not Ashley and that you’re all on crack if you think she is. 😀

  364. Well, we probably all feel a little psychologically abused from all of the information that has been withheld in this case, and that’s why we’re trying to creat our own, I guess, lol. IT’S DRIVING US CRAZY!!!!!
    ____________
    My brother in law would say: Short drive.

    (as he does any time someone says someone is driving them crazy)

  365. Isn’t that Sharon that says he leaves the kids home alone?

    Nobody really knows what he does when he goes out, and you can be darn certain Sharon is not going to say she saw a babysitter etc going into the house.

  366. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    This case could lead some to *crack* I’m sure……
    ———————————————————–
    I am about to “quack” up. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

  367. LTTBF, nope, gotta disagree with you about that. If he was just trying to cause a little sensation o give his upcoming book a soundbite, he 1) picked a lame place to make such a wild accusation, and 2) his book would have been mentioned SOMEWHERE, either in the interview itself, or in the written blurb about who the guys were.

    Hee Hee… I checked too… never hurts to look outside the box, nes-ce’ pas? 🙂

  368. LLTBF – That’s what Brodsky might use as a “defense.” But you know, this radio thing wasn’t in the mainline news. I just happened to find it by accident on a google blog search. If it had been seen by Brodsky, you can rest assured it would have gone no where, since it wouldn’t have benefited the defense at all. Once it was posted here, it got picked up and posted elsewhere, but it’s not in the newspapers, or anything like that. I have sent a couple of emails to Greta because sometimes she’ll post viewers emails. She did post one I sent her one time on her blog about something that was going on about Peterson.

    I hope we find out the truth about this whole thing because it is very interesting. Maybe JB will post more about it and Noway will let us know.

  369. Bash, thanks. I just had to check it out for myself, I’ve learned with age to not take anything at face value…..;)

  370. Good query, Dearheart88! 🙂

    Hopefully, JB will answer it. Well, when he’s not so busy doing damage control for his bonkers client, that is.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if he replies that DP is sure that Sharon would body tackle anyone who tried to harm his kids when he was away… he’s just that kind of smart arse, know what I mean?

    She probably darn tootin’ would though, so the real laugh is on *him*.

    Ain’t it nice the way that works out sometimes? 🙂

  371. Well, Drew left the kids alone the night he searched and searched for Stacy … oh, but that was Cass saying that Thomas (?) said they were home alone. Hearsay!

  372. I’m not about to say he doesn’t leave the kids from time to time alone.

    But I don’t believe it’s as often as people want to believe.

  373. Well, hell, Exlax, I’ve been “crack”-ing jokes, mostly by sheer accident (anybody remember the consternation over my usage of the phrase “intelligent intercourse”?), and some not so accidentally (hint- I *don’t* really have “Freudian slips”), since I first signed up back in November at FSP.

    What’s yer friggin’ point, woman?!?!?

  374. well for a man who goes on LKL proclaims he’s still in love with Stacy but is tugging his “earlobe of love” for Ashley he sure doesn’t seem too concerned that Stacy may walk in in any minute…going out with Kim…trolling yahoo for young fresh meat…going out to bars while his kids are at home…with or without a babysitter…do you think a babysitter would stop Stacy from taking her children??? sure she might call the cops etc but unless he’s filed abandonment charges on Stacy and has temporary legal custody there’s not a damn thing he can do to keep her from taking her children

    ah ha! another question for Joel…has Drew officially filed abandonment charges on Stacy??

  375. I think *if* Stacy showed up to try to take the kids, and the babysitter called the police, there might be some bigger issues then her removing the kids.

  376. noway406 // June 29, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    😀
    Ex asked me to tell my WordPress cobloggers that she is not Ashley and that you’re all on crack if you think she is. 😀
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Crack is Whack!

  377. exlawenforcement // April 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    My initials are K.M….The first 48 hours are the most critical, after that chances go down more and more. Weather is a large factor and we have had a terrible winter. I am not a buddy, as I have stated repeatedly, I am a female. Since I have experience in the field of law enforcement ofcourse I would have more knowledge than the average person.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Hmmmmm. I think I got this backwards originally. Exlaw is supposedly Ashley, but says her initials are K.M. as in Kim Matuska maybe? So maybe she is Kim instead, and Ashley is really Ashley somebody. This just keeps getting more weird by the minute.

  378. BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:11 PM): my larry king message
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:35:31 PM): oh yessssssssssssssssss i did ….you made me smile so big
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:58 PM): that was my intention
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:03 PM): were talking about you pulling on your earlobe to say you love me correct?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:36:18 PM): yep
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:39 PM): yea i got it. you did it a few times, Drew you mad me smile
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:10 PM): well i was gonna propose on national tv
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:37:30 PM): if you would had done that i would have called in and said yes
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:58 PM): now you tell me you said not to
    **************
    Oh boy, Im gonna need the bathroom now… Cmon already..

  379. Isn’t he taking just a wee bit of a chance blogging with an unknown person who he’s perfectly willing to bring into his house? I mean, if he’s getting so many death threats, what’s not to say that a chat room groupie getting him all hotted up isn’t going to blow his freakin’ brains out? Just as he is nuts, so are a lot of others, and he just may meet the one that is obsessed with doing it. Of course, I won’t lose any sleep over it.

  380. Ashley said…
    It was just random , he sent me a pm ( which when i responded he said he never sent to me ) and then our conversations just went from there .
    ______________
    This leads me to believe that someone used a method of sending a fake PM “from” Drew to this person and it went from there.

    Whether Ashley was in on the fake PM remains to be seen.

  381. All I know is something just stinks about this whole Ashley thing, and somehow I can’t help but believe that Ex is involved in this more than she is letting on. She has a Harley, right Ex? Ashley has a Harley, right? Something fishy is going on here folks.

  382. I must have been gone a good long time. Did JB at one point stop taking questions? And if so, when did he start back up taking them?

  383. Hmmm… Steve C’s been pimping for DP all over the dang place, makes sense that he’d use the internet too!

  384. Not buying that pm business. That sounds too phoney. Sorry.

    Why would Ex give out an email with wpatterson@ but then say her initials were KM. Wish I could remeber the email she posted on SYM, dangit!

  385. sher69 // June 29, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:11 PM): my larry king message
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:35:31 PM): oh yessssssssssssssssss i did ….you made me smile so big
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:35:58 PM): that was my intention
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:03 PM): were talking about you pulling on your earlobe to say you love me correct?
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:36:18 PM): yep
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:36:39 PM): yea i got it. you did it a few times, Drew you mad me smile
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:10 PM): well i was gonna propose on national tv
    Ashley (4/14/2008 3:37:30 PM): if you would had done that i would have called in and said yes
    BPD (4/14/2008 3:37:58 PM): now you tell me you said not to
    **************
    Oh boy, Im gonna need the bathroom now… Cmon already..
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ewwww, I just threw-up a little bit in my mouth. Stop that sher! LOL!

  386. And she claims she hasnt spoken to him in a few weeks, why now the website?

    And if she hasnt, and intended to put up the website, she should be a bit more organized about it.

    CFS, I’m with you, something is just too off with this whole thing.

  387. Oh, Drew P.,
    You “behind”
    Do the crime
    Ya do the time!
    Hey Drew P!
    Hey Drew P!

    Yeah, I know, but it sure beats “Gee, Barrister Brodsky” to the tune of “Gee, Officer Krupke”!!!

  388. Letthetruth, he’s not taking questions exactly. But he’s posting in response to what people say. So I figure why not ask him a direct question and see if he answers.

    I think Drew was set up by Ashley and others. Ashley could have “said” she got a PM from him … ask her to show us that original PM “if” she still has it.

    I’m off to spend some time with hubby … or I’ll be forced to visit yahoo and chat with the male versions of Ashley. 😀

  389. Oh boy, Im gonna need the bathroom now… Cmon already..
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ewwww, I just threw-up a little bit in my mouth. Stop that sher! LOL!
    *******************************
    Now that is funny!!! Someone stop me!!! LOL! ROTFLMAO!
    EEEEEEEEEEEEE

  390. Rescue, I almost hesitate to say this, but somehow the idea of DP and Exlax together just doesn’t seem *wrong*… know what I mean?

    Bashers, please start the queue to the left of the computer desk, no pushing, please!

  391. rescueapet // June 29, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Isn’t he taking just a wee bit of a chance blogging with an unknown person who he’s perfectly willing to bring into his house? I mean, if he’s getting so many death threats, what’s not to say that a chat room groupie getting him all hotted up isn’t going to blow his freakin’ brains out? Just as he is nuts, so are a lot of others, and he just may meet the one that is obsessed with doing it. Of course, I won’t lose any sleep over it.
    ———————————————————-
    I don’t think that it was “that” random. Chat room groupie? More like someone wanted to get close to him or he saw her posts on a forum-not in a “random” chat/pm. Steve C. was at Tailgators with Kim and Drew on March 8th. Something smells and I already showered a couple of times today. JMO.

  392. Another thought, she said that their conversations stopped on May 11. Didn’t FSP shut down right after the Mother’s Day Fundraiser? Hence, no PM’s since May 11?

  393. Oh, my lordie- are you suggesting that DP was trollin’ for babes on his missing wife’s support forum???!!!

    Please, I just don’t think I can take this anymore… 😦

  394. You know, this “man” is such a fool, he’s a target for any unbalanced nut that might want to wipe the floor with that cocky puss of his. The incredible part of all of this is that he puts his children in harms way with this hormone chasing crap of his.

    We can make jokes and ridicule him til the cows come home, but, you know what, the man is mentally insane. Really. He’s calculated, he’s cold, he’s callous, and he’s careless. That’s no joke. I truly think as more and more time goes on, he’s cracking.

    I also think that LE is doing everything they can to get in his face and drive him nuts. The only thing is, they’re dealing with a zombie. He reminds me of the zombies that wandered around in the movie, Night of he Living Dead. That’s Drew Peterson.

  395. letthetruthbefree // June 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Whew, glad I don’t have to get into that line…..
    *****

    Well, it’s there for anyone who wants to bash me for saying that out loud…

  396. Nobody commented on the fact that Ex said on here on that her initials were K.M. Am I the only one that found that strange? Not saying she was Kim Matuska, but it’s odd that those are the initials she said were hers if her name is really Ashley. I’m just wondering now if Ashley on the blog is really Kim Matuska and she’s getting revenge. Anyone? Am I really going crazy, lol? This whole thing is crazy!!!
    _________________________

    On Word Press 4/7/08

    exlawenforcement // April 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    My initials are K.M….

  397. You think that’s what exlax was really talking about?

    That it’s DP who’s cracking?

    Spot on, Rescue, and well said.

  398. Let, I thought it, but didn’t say. Wanted to get my thought together, but after the ruckus last night, decided to post my opinion. But I”ve said all I’m going to say about it. Have no proof of anything anyway. It’s just a bizarre set of coincidences, and the truth will probably come out sooner or later. Will just wait and see how it unfolds. Tired of typing about to tell you the truth, and I’m sure others are tired of reading it, lol.

  399. Can you imagine, seriously, being the Prosecution in this case?

    They have to work with what they are given, and not a soul is turning out to be *very* clean.

    Almost everyday a new *character* enters the circus. It must make the DA’s office just cringe when they log online….lol.

  400. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    Oh, my lordie- are you suggesting that DP was trollin’ for babes on his missing wife’s support forum???!!!

    Please, I just don’t think I can take this anymore…
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    cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Nobody commented on the fact that Ex said on here on that her initials were K.M. Am I the only one that found that strange? Not saying she was Kim Matuska, but it’s odd that those are the initials she said were hers if her name is really Ashley. I’m just wondering now if Ashley on the blog is really Kim Matuska and she’s getting revenge. Anyone? Am I really going crazy, lol? This whole thing is crazy!!!
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    I told you that I needed a weekend from my weekend. K.M., Ashley, Ex-law, simply crazy!

    The entire timing thing is very strange. But, this case is very strange. Is there a “normal” person that lives in BB? Sorry.

  401. Her first name could be Quasimodo, Cfs7360, but if she’s on the intenet, she can be whomever she darn wants to be- know wht I mean?

    So, yeah, it’s weird that the initials she says are hers on an internet forum are the same as the initials of one of DP’s girltoys, but other than that, I’m just not impressed with anything I’m hearing/reading about exlax anymore. If she felt so strongly that she was getting a bum rap, she wouldn’t pussyfoot around by asking other people to post her lame protestations. She’d barge over here with the elegance of a pregnant yak and demand retractions from every single person here and elsewhere that even just *read* about it, not just the ones who had the audaciousness to actually *post* about it.

    Sorry, but nope- just ain’t impressed at all…

  402. cfs, I’m sorry my comment wasn’t directed at you at all. It was directed at me in general, its seems to have opened up a can of worms, with no answers.

    But I feel the exact same way you do, something isn’t right, and hopefully sooner than later, the truth will come out.

  403. EXLAX IS ASHLEY?!?!?!

    Hee Hee… wouldn’t that be a kicker of a headline?

    Even funnier- a pic of the way I looked with my jaw on the floor and a horrified expression in my eyes when I typed it…

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  404. You’re right Bash. Point well taken. I could be Olivia Newton John for all that matter. Besides, like I said, it’ll all come out sooner or later. I’m headed to bed. Nite all.

  405. I’ve been checking Ashley’s blog periodically, and I find it strange that when she does answer and/or comment, it’s only aimed at the nasty posts. She doesn’t answer any questions, has ignored most all of us, and hasn’t elaborated on anything. We’re all getting played like a fiddle too, and, you know what, it’s old and tiresome. If she’s trying to keep everyone interested in what she’s trying to accomplish, personally, I think she needs to change her tactics. Come out with it and do what she needs to do.

    I’m not saying, if she’s on the legit, that she doesn’t have some provocative stuff to share, but, for Pete’s Sake, do it already. JMHO.


  406. 2 Cents:

    1. The webcam pic appears to be real.
    2. DP & JB have responded negatively.

    So the only conclusions I can come to is:

    A) It’s real, but setup by Ashley

    B) It’s real and not setup, Drew is just that dumb

    C) It’s a setup by JB & DP. Kid in the background and stuffed animal could be a way DP communicates with Aunt Candace or other relatives and/or old pic.

    Because where is the outrage? Where are the denials? Where is the ranting and threats from JB ie: cease & decist?

  407. Yeah, that is kinda weird, Rescue. Then again, maybe she just doesn’t feel the need to address her supporters on the “cmments” part, because she’s already addressing them in the captions she’s writing below each screen shot?

    Beats me. I don’t have a life, so what do I know?

  408. Maybe Ashley is another Ashley besides Ex and the one who lef the notes and blew the kisses at his house. Maybe Drew just likes women with the name Ashley. Maybe he just likes all women that will give him the time of day.

    I’m gone this time. Nite.

  409. Bash – I am truly tired of the bits and pieces already. Guess I don’t have the attention span for that stuff. What she posted so far is interesting, to say the least, but this dribs and drabs is not my cup of tea.

  410. cfs7360 // June 29, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    Maybe Ashley is getting revenge because Drew got caught seeing Kim. Who the hell knows? Nite all.
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    Ding, Ding, Ding-you are the winner! What was Ex-Law’s name at FSP, anyone?

    Night cfs.

  411. Blast from the past:

    CBS2 Chicago
    Jan 29, 2008
    Drew Peterson Receives Threatening Letter

    The letter writer, apparently angry that Peterson boasted of meeting women in a bar and having a secret admirer named “Ashley,” said the only romance in his future would be when he was attacked in prison…

    Peterson was unimpressed by the note.

    “It’s just one of many,” he said. “We get good ones, we get bad ones.”

    As far as the good ones, Peterson said he spoke to the mysterious “Ashley” but has made no concrete plans to meet the 20-year-old. A woman identifying herself only as Ashley was reluctant to go public with her reasons for reaching out to Peterson.

    “Whatever happens between me and Drew happens between me and Drew, and if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen,” she said.

  412. Uh, what was Ex’s name on FSP? Or names?

    I gotta say this, and yes, you can laugh loud as you want to, but I just assumed (I know, I *know*) that people used the same name online wherever they went.

    Guess I’m weird that way.

  413. Thanks Sher. Yeah, Bash found that earlier. Says it would’ve helped alot had she found it before she did the transcription from the radio broadcast.

  414. Well, me too. That’s why this is all so confusing. If she hadn’t herself confessed recently that she’d been going “incognito” under different user names on different boards, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue. But she did, and now, even more so than before, it IS an issue.

  415. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Uh, what was Ex’s name on FSP? Or names?

    I gotta say this, and yes, you can laugh loud as you want to, but I just assumed (I know, I *know*) that people used the same name online wherever they went.

    Guess I’m weird that way.
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    You would change names if you had to hide from BM, right? lol

  416. Uh, no, actually, I wouldn’t.

    Just seems like a big pain in the arse to have to remember different user names, much less which board or forum or circus they go to…

    Honestly- how *DO* people manage all that? Don’t they get confused about who they are and where they are at times?

    It just seems, I dunno… like a waste of energy? Maybe?

  417. They didn’t have an enormously big amount of people over there to begin with. Who the heck is left to blog over there?

    I just don’t get the wickedness of cutting of people who register but only want to read or lurk. I’ve never heard of a board doing that. If posting is a requirement, they should have mentioned it. Dirty tactics, IMHO. Maybe some wanted to read JB’s posts.

  418. basherette // June 29, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Uh, no, actually, I wouldn’t.

    Just seems like a big pain in the arse to have to remember different user names, much less which board or forum or circus they go to…

    Honestly- how *DO* people manage all that? Don’t they get confused about who they are and where they are at times?

    It just seems, I dunno… like a waste of energy? Maybe?
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    His place was the only one that I changed my name. He’s a scary person.

    I have a question? What are the chances that the ear tugging was meant for Ashley and Kim? How many others?

    Bash-you think that you would have problems with different nics, imagine the trouble that Drew has with all his-you know?

    Night. June 30th, still time for more fireworks?

  419. No shitake mushrooms, Sherlock! 🙂

    Hey Gatehouse!!!

    Your Wacky, Weird, Wise and Wonderful Writing Websleuthing Wiseacres need a new thread so your server doesn’t explode!!! 🙂

  420. duckyone // June 30, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Bash-you think that you would have problems with different nics, imagine the trouble that Drew has with all his-you know?
    *****

    Well, as fon as he is of both things I’m about to mention, I’ve just surmised that he installed a GPS on his pecker.

    He’s welcome to sue me if I’m wrong, but if I’m right, I don’t wanna know! 🙂

  421. Guys, I wanted to stop by Ashley’s site to read the posts. The more I read that she personally wrote, the more I was/am convinced it’s not Ex. Ex writes much better and is more mature than this girl, but there were some similarities in certain things. Sorry Ex, for jumping the gun on this.

    I wish there had been more to read that Ashley had written before I jumped to conclusions, but at the time, there wasn’t…..just a LOT of darn strange coincidences. This Ashley knows about Kim too and mentioned Drew seeing her. So, maybe Ashley is just one of many girls Drew has or had on his stringer, and she finally found out what a POS he is. Good for her! This still has an odor, but not quite as stinky as it was, at least to me.

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