Your Thread – July 1

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347 thoughts on “Your Thread – July 1

  1. giveitarest // June 30, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Former FSP Admin. Not accusing, just saying he would know to get a program like that.
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    letthetruthbefree // June 30, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    Oh that Anthony….Gotcha!!!!
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    Hello “give it a rest.” Maybe you should give it a rest as well! “Not accusing”, BS to your drama queen antics. Anthony hasn’t given out details nor has he been involved on the boards since early May. Really, some people need their med and a week long of sleep.

  2. iknoweverythinglol // June 30, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Now this is funny!!

    Ashley said…
    I Half 2 Laff at tha cupple peeple that cum hair and reed mi blog and then go bak to tha blog thay hang on and tawk shit about mee adding a space,ore mi choice uv werds if thats awl eye eva git picked on about then life iz good ( I type , space , and choose the words I want because the last time I checked this was my blog ) . Don’t like it ? Upsets you ? Then keep your coffee clutching asses ( and you know who you are ) on the site you normally hang on ..

    June 30, 2008 11:43 PM
    ***************************

    Hmmm, that’s oddly defensive isn’t it? I’ve said nothing but positives about lil Ashley but I have indeed noted her odd punctuation. She’s upset about THAT?

    I’ll need to think about that…

  3. I just can’t get over DP stating that he’s 54 years old but looks like 30 and acts like 20….! That truly shows how delusional he is!

  4. And he demands his lovers to perform in his narcissistic play. He chooses his actresses when they are young and naive so that he can teach them the way to act. If they do not act the way that he demands then he makes them go away and finds someone else to play their part.

    Me.

  5. I was looking at a picture of him from March with his grizzled beard and eye bags and wondered if he could really believe that. Maybe some girl had just told him he looked 30 when he bought her a drink.

  6. facs,

    He looked/looks like he was/is exhausted, old and haggard. Guilt makes people look like hell.

    Me.

  7. iknoweverythinglol // June 30, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Now this is funny!!

    Ashley said…
    I Half 2 Laff at tha cupple peeple that cum hair and reed mi blog and then go bak to tha blog thay hang on and tawk shit about mee adding a space,ore mi choice uv werds if thats awl eye eva git picked on about then life iz good ( I type , space , and choose the words I want because the last time I checked this was my blog ) . Don’t like it ? Upsets you ? Then keep your coffee clutching asses ( and you know who you are ) on the site you normally hang on ..

    June 30, 2008 11:43 PM
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    OK WOW to this ,,OK?
    WOW she got a potty moff!!!

  8. cfs7360 // June 30, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    1wonderwoman // June 30, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    I wonder if anyone here agrees with this…You guys and gals are so awesome here, especially at research…I give it two more days tops and we’ll know who “Ashley” really is including most if not all of her internet alias’s…
    +++++++++++++++++
    I wonder why you think so…..want to share?
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    CFS sorry for delay in answerning you. I just saw your post this morning…so here is my answer..

    I Think you guys/gals are so awesome here because several of you are awesome at research and MOST ( sorry not all – due to the trolls here) of the poeople here can think intelligently and come to rational conclusions…

    Awe shucks guys/gals I was just trying to pay several of you a nice compliment…

  9. 1wonderwoman, thank you for the compliment.:D But what I was wondering about is why you thought Ashley (and her Internet aliases) would be revealed in two more days. Sorry for the confusion there.

  10. Just being very optimistic is all CFS…Your all welcome…I love this board. You guys/gals rock

  11. 1wonderwoman // July 1, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Just being very optimistic is all CFS…Your all welcome…I love this board. You guys/gals rock
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Oh, okay. Thank you. Just thought maybe you knew something some of us didn’t. And I agree, it’s a great board, and there are some great people here. Welcome.

  12. lol
    Last night I had a dream … I was on the computer on a blogboardforum and my computer locked up … got pissed and started just punching keys … suddenly I was in a chat room with Drew and Ashley … neither of them typed anything earthshattering … and I didn’t notice the punctuation or (sorry) what their complete names were.

    😀

    Wanted to try to keep the dream going but my daughter woke me up. Maybe I’ll nap today ….

  13. Lol Noway, sounds like you might need a vacation from all of this. At least your dream wasn’t about being on a date with him. 😀

  14. Hey, Noway, what’s going on with JB on SYM? Is he posting, or is it quiet over there too?

    That was some dream you had. Maybe you need some special down time, LOL.

  15. Rescue, I’ll have to check. I’ve just been here and Ashley’s (so is she reading here or does she have “spies”?).

    cfs …. no kidding! Even a double-date with me and my husband and Drew and Ashley would be a nightmare!

  16. Rescue, I didn’t think you were banned from there … but here ya go.
    _____________________

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #450 Today at 6:43am

    Heres the response to Phelps I just posted in crimerant:

    Hey Phelps,
    In your June 30, 2008 at 3:19 pm post you just ADMITTED you recorded us without our permission. Also our phone log from the conference calling company shows that you called in from your CT phone number, so CT law governs. The defense of the call to your NY agent won’t hold up. (why do you feel you need a defense anyway? Because you know you did somthing illegal thats why!) Basically you just admitted that you broke the law in writing and on the internet. Your really not very bright, are you? I am forwarding all of this to the CT Attorney General requesting prosecution. Maybe your next true crime book can be done from inside the joint. Maybe next time you promise discussions are confidential you should keep your word, liar. This should be a warning to anyone who is going to deal with you in the future. I was dealing with a liar who surreptitiously records confidential telephone coversations; Yuk, I need a shower.

    AND (in response to a poster asking him to confirm that he posted on Crimerant or to provide the link where he did post):

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #452 Today at 7:15am »

    I posted it at 7:30 this morning. I guess it takes some time because all posts on that site are moderated (screened) http://www.crimerant.com/?p=1711#comments

  17. If the agent called from NY and he and Matt are on the phone (Matt being in CT) and Matt calls Joel and Drew (in IL) and Glenn (in FL?) what is the “origin” of the call?

    Matt conferenced them in from CT but the call originated from NY.

    I hope the Attorney General knows the state abbreviations when he prosecutes!

    😀

  18. Thank you very much for the information, by the way, Noway.

    I never posted over there, never even went there until the past week, and I was caught up in the ban sweep.

  19. Yes Rescue, it appears that way. Guess we might have another case to follow after all, but hopefully not.

  20. Why would a “high profile” attorney engage in such seething comments, solely to attack someone on legal issues? I mean, as an attorney, why isn’t he doing what he needs to do, such as he claims he’s done by forwarding “all this” to the CT Attorney General, or contacting the attorney and/or agent for Mr. Phelps directly, in private?

    I think Brodsky is cracked. I really do. I still question why his law partners and co-partners on the Peterson matters continue to stand by him. Although, their silence is not necessarily standing by them. What a mess.

  21. Brodsky always sounds like he just graduated 5th grade. He has to call names.

    Didn’t someone post yesterday that the penalty for recording phone conversations illegally is suspension of phone service?

  22. cfs, *your* not kidding! That’s an affliction many suffer from.

    I taught my 9 year old that “your” reflects ownership (your hat, your ipod); “you’re” stands for “you are” … so if he wasn’t sure … put “you are” in the sentence and it would be clear.

    He caught on pretty quick. But then he has his mom’s great mind.;)

  23. I can’t answer to the legalities for phone recording, but, with all of the masterminds involved on the Peterson side, you would think that someone was aware they might be recorded.

    That being said, Brodsky’s comment is not up on the comment section of the site. However, someone did ask if the site was moderated, and the Admin said it was NOT. Wonder why his comment isn’t showing up.

  24. Brodsky’s rant is just to cover the fact he screwed up so bad. The world knows know Drew wants to write a book about his wife killing his previous wife and how Drew helped cover it up. Telling the world your client is guilty of a crime is not a good lawyery thing. The illinois bar might not like that.

  25. Yesterday someone posted here a comment that Brodsky said that he had posted to the ‘Crime in Vegas’ blog (he gave a link but it was a 404 error). I couldn’t find his post on any crime blog.

    I posted it at Crimerant to make sure Matt saw it (maybe that was meddling – I had a moment about it afterwards, but there it is) and Matt answered it at Crimerant.

  26. IKELOL – It’s just pure panic mode then isn’t it?

    As for Lil Ashley:
    Does anyone else feel like Ashley is misunderstanding us here…and possibly on purpose? I was totally behind her as others are and said so, but she seems to feel like she’s been attacked here. It’s funny.

    And who is it pretending to be Bash and posting comments on her blog complete with ‘shitake mushroom’ and ‘shalom’?

  27. Oh, facsmiley, if someone is pretending to be Basherette and posting as her, Basherette is going to rip her them a new you-know-what!!!

  28. About lil Ashley, what exactly is there to be behind? She obviously has nothing LE needs or the blog wouldn’t be public.

    What is she enlightening us to?

    That Drew is a cheat. Tell us something we didn’t know.

    That he isn’t very concerned with his missing wife? Tell us something we didn’t know.

    She is an attention craving, lost little girl, who fit the exact bill that DP looks for, and she can’t understand why he dismissed her.

  29. Another thing that might upset Selig/Brodsky is if they do have another author and are going ahead with writing that book, and it DOES trash Stacy and Kathy and DOES depict Stacy as Kathy’s killer, then the cat is out of the bag.

    BTW – Hosey’s book is available in Europe now and I saw a copy for sale at Amazon for about $120. So if you just have to be the first on your block to read it, you could go that route. Otherwise you can wait ’til September when it’s out here and sells for $24.95 or thereabouts.

  30. 10-11 – all that could very well be true. But if it causes Drew any misery or strife, I’m kinda for it.

  31. teneleven – facsmiley

    I agree, it’s all meant to cause Drew Peterson grief and aggravation. You’re most likely right when you say it has no value to LE – it doesn’t prove he murdered KS and SP. It just reinforces what most of us already know and agree about. That he is a disgusting pig.

    If he is not guilty of what he’s being scrutinized for, then, speaking solely from my own point of view, he should have blended into the woodwork from the very beginning, at least as much as possible, and hoped that the public would forget about him for a while.

    It’s pretty much working that way with Stebic. Stebic isn’t going to get any gold stars either for being husband/dad of the year, but he’s not a household name outside of this area.

  32. facsmiley // July 1, 2008 at 11:06 am

    10-11 – all that could very well be true. But if it causes Drew any misery or strife, I’m kinda for it.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You can’t believe, after all this time that you have followed this case, that it is mysery or strife for him? Can you?

    HE FREAKIN LOVES IT!!!!!

    This isn’t mysery for him.

  33. Yesterday I asked:

    Would it matter to you:

    1. If Ashley loved Drew and is a scorned woman?
    2. If she set him up from the beginning?
    a. Alone?
    b. With help from:
    1. Normal citizens or bloggers?
    2. Family members of KS or SP?
    3. LE?

    ______________
    Thanks to all who answered. Yes, I agree that it does not matter who Ashley is and what her motives are. It is still Drew on the other end of the webcam saying what he said.

    But how much that have to do with him being responsible for Stacy’s disappearance.

    IMO there was an Ashley before Stacy went missing … was Drew on yahoo before then? Counting on anyone who chatted with him to come forward …

  34. I keep waiting for the indication that DP scorned Ashley in some way but so far I haven’t seen it. From what DP wrote in his email to her on Friday it sounds as if he still cared for her and she was the one who broke it off (probably because of Kim M?).

    There’s a difference between a woman scorned and a woman betrayed. That said, I don’t think it’s all that important what ended the good will between them, whether or not it was a set-up, or even if Ashley is multiple people…or a man for that matter.

    And I do find that their conversations have revealed a few bits of interesting info.

    • Drew was eager to liquidate Stacy’s assets and get a divorce by March.
    • Drew has talked about marriage with at least two women since Stacy went missing.
    • That Drew’s need to charm and draw in vulnerable people has not abated. etc.
  35. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:04 am

    About lil Ashley, what exactly is there to be behind? She obviously has nothing LE needs or the blog wouldn’t be public.

    What is she enlightening us to?

    That Drew is a cheat. Tell us something we didn’t know.

    That he isn’t very concerned with his missing wife? Tell us something we didn’t know.

    She is an attention craving, lost little girl, who fit the exact bill that DP looks for, and she can’t understand why he dismissed her.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Every word Drew typed can be used in the trial. When the prosecution lays out there anything can be used that drew typed to back them up. Simple things like drew bragging about how much he can get for stacys motorcycle, goes to greed.

  36. What continues to amaze me in this tragic situation – is how there are so many who somehow make this about them and not about the young mysteriously dead and the young missing mother.

    To name a few, JulieinCA, Annie, Lorie, Seppy the list goes on and on and on.

  37. Iknoweverythinglol, and what you say may very well be true. Then why would she show her hand? Why not turn it all over to LE even in nothing telling in it about him being involved, but would be telling about his character? Because she’s pissed that’s why. She is not doing this for the good of KS or SP, it’s all about her.

  38. Facs, about Hosey’s book…..have no interest in buying or reading it, but some will, I’m sure. Just doesn’t seem to me that there would be anything in it that most of us don’t already know since there hasn’t been an arrest or trial yet. My personal opinion is he jumped the gun writing it, because how could he have had an ending? And no, I’m not going to buy it to find out, but I was wondering if he’s planning on writing a sequel when/if a trial gets underway. Anybody know?

  39. teneleven – not speaking for anyone else here, but that’s a crappy thing you just did, naming all of those people.

    IMHO, you’re just here to “out” whoever you think is behind Ashley and coming here to do it. Why?

  40. cfs – Hosey’s book was due out in July but was delayed. I don’t know the reason for that, but I’m assuming it’s basically fact-filled as to what has happened up to now. It would probably have more non-local interest, or at least be informative by those who don’t blog or follow the day-to-day stuff.

  41. Are you kidding me Rescue Pet? Seriously?

    After the filth that’s come out of the mouths here about other board admins,/members?

    I already know Ashley is – she’s a female Drew Peterson – lost & dying for attention.

  42. What advantage? Drew knows everything he typed to her… That is why you don’t see him shooting his mouth off about this. He knows he screwed up bad and Brodsky knows how bad he screwed up with the book deal. This is so good.

  43. IMHO, you’re just here to “out” whoever you think is behind Ashley and coming here to do it. Why?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And IMO you are just here because you are very lonely and you have no control in your personal life so you come here to try to get some here. Why do you feel the need to force feed your beliefs to anyone who sees things differently and states it in a proper blog like manner?

  44. The advantage Iknoweverything is that Brodsky even has a clue she is out there.

    I think it would have been much better and made her so much more credible to rather put it all in the hands of LE instead of a public smear campaign. IMO

  45. Rescue – re: Fatal Vows. I think the writing of that book was WAY premature. I hope Joe makes some cash from it but it already feels dated to me, and it hasn’t even been released.

  46. rescueapet // July 1, 2008 at 11:26 am

    cfs – Hosey’s book was due out in July but was delayed. I don’t know the reason for that, but I’m assuming it’s basically fact-filled as to what has happened up to now. It would probably have more non-local interest, or at least be informative by those who don’t blog or follow the day-to-day stuff.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    I knew about the delay, but it’s already out now, at least in other places. I’m sure you’re right about it possibly having value to some people who don’t follow this like we do. Just kind of felt like anyone who knew about the case would probably know most of the details to date. I mean, he won’t even have anything about Ashley in his book! Or Matt Phelps! Or maybe even Kim Matuska. I still say he jumped the gun trying to get his out there so fast. You never know these days what’s going to happen next in this mess.. 😀

  47. facsmiley – I don’t doubt that he has a book that is a page turner, but with no ending, at least not yet, yeah, it might be a little premature.

  48. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:30 am

    And IMO you are just here because you are very lonely and you have no control in your personal life so you come here to try to get some here. Why do you feel the need to force feed your beliefs to anyone who sees things differently and states it in a proper blog like manner?
    *************************************

    Oh my, are you going to be one of those people who tells other people to ‘get a life’ while tippity tapping on their own keyboard?

    There’s no need to get ugly. We all have opinions.

    Are you just itching for a fight? You won’t get it from me this morning. It’s just too gorgeous out and I need to help someone finish painting the living room.

    I hope you feel better soon. 🙂

  49. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:32 am

    The advantage Iknoweverything is that Brodsky even has a clue she is out there.

    I think it would have been much better and made her so much more credible to rather put it all in the hands of LE instead of a public smear campaign. IMO

    Teneleven

    You don’t understand something. Reach with me on this………….Ashley’s credibility has nothing to do with what drew typed. His words stand alone.

    Unless you are brodsky how do you know what he knows? Hell both of them might have been talking to her at the same time.

  50. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Iknoweverything, interested to hear your take/how you feel about Ric Mims?

    Slimeball still in Drews pocket.

  51. Maybe LE patted her on her head and sent her on her way.

    This happened AFTER Stacy went missing. After. Not before. Doesn’t really have much zing, IMO. But does make for intersting reading.

    We need Ashley II to come forward with her lovey dovery PMs, IMs, EMs, and webcam photos from BEFORE Stacy went missing.

    IMO

    Posted by a woman who is in control of her life and is not at all lonely.

    Just in case anyone wondered. 😉

  52. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:32 am

    The advantage Iknoweverything is that Brodsky even has a clue she is out there.

    I think it would have been much better and made her so much more credible to rather put it all in the hands of LE instead of a public smear campaign. IMO

    Teneleven

    You don’t understand something. Reach with me on this………….Ashley’s credibility has nothing to do with what drew typed. His words stand alone.

    Unless you are brodsky how do you know what he knows? Hell both of them might have been talking to her at the same time. Joel rubbing his shotgun and Drew petting his puppet………LOL LOL

  53. Ashley’s credibility has nothing to do with what drew typed.

    I beg to differ slightly on the credibility part, but I will reach with you and agree for now.

    Now reach with me – she should have just turned it all over to LE, kept quiet and it would have been a nice surprise for the defense. Or am I missing something here?

    Hopefully if there were other Ashely’s – that is the route they took.

  54. Well teneleven, she just might have turned in copies of everything to LE and there is nothing forbiding her from doing this. Hey maybe this means an arrest is near since LE doesn’t seem to upset about her doing it and they know they will have to turn everything over in discovery anyway!

  55. Oh just reach with me here IKELOL, and it would make the convo so much easier. You are doing backflips with this Ashley stuff because you hate him with a passion and even if there is nothing trial worthy it’s A-OK cause you think he’s a murdering pig who deserves every little ounce of what Ashley is “trying” to do? Yeah? And if so that’s cool.

    I just think he thrives and feeds off of it and that it doesn’t bother him one bit. Don’t forget we’re talking about a most likely double murderer, if that doesnt keep him up at night, nothing will!!

  56. Nobody knows that Ashley didn’t first go to LE with this stuff.

    Nobody knows that Ashley is not LE.

    So until her blog is gone … and I hope she posts that original PM from Drew … I’ll keep reading.

  57. Ten, I understand what you’re saying about Ashley going straight to LE with all of this, but then, if what she is doing IS for revenge, she would have missed out on the thrill of surprising Drew, and HIS attorney by posting what she has, which seems to be her intention. For all we know, she has the blessings of LE. Maybe they wanted to see what the reactions were going to be from Drew and his attorney. I don’t think many people really know exactly what the reason is, and it’s just all opinionated speculation at this point. Bottom line, it’s her blog, her im’s and her email. Guess she can do what she wants to with it until someone officially says otherwise.

    By the way, just because people post on here does not mean they are lonely or are looking to exert any control over anyone. We’re just sharing opinions on a blog in our spare time….simple as that. Rescue is one of the best posters here, so don’t mess with my friend, okay?

  58. Wonder why he feels the need to marry all of his victims. It’s very not safe to be a Mrs. Peterson.

  59. If it doesn’t bother him then why is he spending thousands on a PR guy and doing the Mr. Mom thing.

  60. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #466 Today at 10:52am »

    I guess I have been blacklisted from Crimrant’s blog. They won’t post my reply to Phelps. Cowards.

  61. And what a waste of money that was … this certainly counteracts the Mr. Mom role he tried to get people to believe.

    IMO

  62. iknoweverythinglol // July 1, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    If it doesn’t bother him then why is he spending thousands on a PR guy and doing the Mr. Mom thing.

    +++++++++++++++++++
    Iknow, I think they got the $289 package deal. 😀

  63. noway406 // July 1, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #466 Today at 10:52am »

    I guess I have been blacklisted from Crimrant’s blog. They won’t post my reply to Phelps. Cowards.
    *******************************

    Or maybe he just messed up. The first couple of times I tried posting there, my posts went off into code oblivion.

    Exactly WHY Joel wants to carry out his legal business on the man’s blog continues to puzzle me.

  64. rescueapet // July 1, 2008 at 10:49 am

    I can’t answer to the legalities for phone recording, but, with all of the masterminds involved on the Peterson side, you would think that someone was aware they might be recorded.
    ——————————————————-

    Rescue-Yesterday, I posted the State and Federal laws. Phelps and company are covered 😉 The only penalty if there were a problem is loss of their phone service. They may be wishing this because JB won’t leave them alone. LOL

    Ten-Rescue may not be my friend 😉 but it’s pretty crappy for you to come here just to stir up trouble.

  65. noway – see, this is the thing that I wonder about. The PR guy. He’s been hired to do damage control and rehabilitate Peterson’s image.

    So, his work is being undone, so to speak. He came out and put his butt on the line, and I remember reading it straight from the horse’s mouth, that Drew, when you get to know him in person and see what he’s really like, is a nice, great guy.

    How in the world does Selig continue to represent him when he’s being outted constantly, by his speeding/bar hopping/weapons violation/blogging antics.

    On the other hand, if what Mr. Phelps is saying is, in fact, true about the tone of how Peterson/Brodsky wanted the book written, Selig was in on it too.

    That is good for Mr. Selig? The public hates Drew Peterson and he’s helping him find a writer to further trash his wife.

    Give me a break!!!

  66. ducky – oh, so Phelps is not worthy of being reported to the CT Attorney General, as Brodsky says he is and claims he’s done, for taping violations?

    I’m not clear on why Brodsky wants to forge ahead with his legal defense of all of this on a blog either.

  67. Wonder where Basherette’s been?

    Basherette – could you just check in to let everyone know you’re okay????

  68. Everything is about money to drew, his crimes are driven by and justified by greed. Ashley is losing him money. He can’t stand it. Now he will have to pay more for his PR or write it off and he doesn’t like that.

  69. As far as Brodsky goes, I feel he is trying to fool the common man into believing that he knows what he is talking about legally. Too bad he really doesn’t. I think that he had to look every word up in the dictionary. JMHO

  70. Every time I go back up earlier in this blog and read Brodsky’s response to Phelps, I can’t believe what is going on with him. I really think he’s cracked up.

    Why aren’t any of his partners/co-attorneys speaking out? If the first rule of defense is for an attorney to tell his client to shut up and keep your mouth closed, why aren’t his partners/co-attorneys telling BRODSKY to do the same.

    Unless I’m wrong here, I expect to start seeing defections real soon, including Mr. Selig. Really, I do.

  71. Here you go Rescue!
    ———————————————————-
    The reigning consensus is that one-party consensual recording is merely “enhanced note-taking” and since some folks have total recall without recording, how can the other party have any expectation of privacy to a conversation held with another person.

    Recording Telephone Calls with Parties in Different Jurisdictions
    Federal law may apply when the conversation is between parties who are in different states, although it is unsettled whether a court will hold in a given case that federal law “pre-empts” state law, but either state may choose to enforce its own laws.

    The Role of FCC
    The FCC’s role in assisting consumers who believe their telephone conversations were unlawfully recorded is generally limited to ensuring that telephone companies enforce their tariff provisions regarding recording of telephone conversations. “The only penalty that can be enforced by the local carrier is revocation of telephone service. (In the Matter of Use of Recording Devices in Connection with Telephone Service)”
    —————————————————–
    Darn! It looks like Phelps must have been merely “enhanced note-taking!” hehe

    “The only penalty that can be enforced by the local carrier is revocation of telephone service”

  72. Thank you ducky. Enhanced note-taking. ENT. I like that. That’s good.

    Maybe Brodsky will read this here and comment on his favorite blog.

  73. rescueapet // July 1, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Thank you ducky. Enhanced note-taking. ENT. I like that. That’s good.

    Maybe Brodsky will read this here and comment on his favorite blog.
    ———————————————————
    That was my favorite part. ENT. hehe

    Off to a lunch meeting. See you later. I hope that Bash is ok.

  74. That’s the only penalty the local carrier can impose.

    It doesn’t mean IMO that Drew and Joel cannot sue his ass off.

    I don’t pretend to know who is in the right here … but based only on what has been posted (and it pains me to say this) I think Joel has the law in his favor.

    Am I way off base?

  75. Folks, we’ve deleted the previous comments regarding various posters here and elsewhere to make sure the convo doesn’t stray. Please find a new topic…the discussion over the last few days has been fantastic and we don’t want to see that stop by letting personal attacks come in.

  76. 🙂
    Hi, Facsmley!

    It’s going to take more than a 12-step program to save some of us!

    I’m noway406, and I’ve posted under noway on other forums.

    Hmm … just doesn’t have the same ring to it!

    BBL everyone!

  77. noway – there’s a saying that anyone can sue anybody. Doesn’t mean it’ll go anywhere, but one is free to file.

    However, Brodsky’s method of getting his point across to Phelps – shouldn’t he just have emailed that to him, or contacted him to get the name of his attorney to discuss it with him.

    Don’t you think it’s very telling that Brodsky is doing this in front of G*D (for Basherette) and everybody? Why? He’s not going to change any minds on the blogs – either you agree with Brodsky’s tactics or you don’t. So, where’s he going with all this?

  78. Ducky, defending my post earlier. You seemed to be upset by my post. I said Ashley having that YInformer program made me think of Anthony. I only meant – she mentioned she did websites – our IT guys know all types of little programs like that. Yes, he did pop into my mind, but I also said I was not accusing him. I only meant she makes me think of him (meaning her computer knowledge ONLY)….geesh.

  79. Maybe Brodsky is bored. He doesn’t have anything to really argue about because there has been no indictment yet and therefore no disclosure of evidence. So anything that seems to be damning to his client, he makes comments through media and blogs. Like he did with Morphey, Sharon’s camera, Kim, Ashley, and now Phelps. Just to name a few. Does he have any experience as a defense lawyer (He sure doesn’t act like it)? Maybe this is practice for him. I don’t have anything good to say about him. But I am happy that he is Drew’s lawyer because we wouldn’t have anything to read or write about and a conviction with minimal evidence is in the prosecutions favor.

  80. ***Just to be clear, I am not saying that there is minimal evidence. But if they only had minimal evidence that wouldn’t matter. JMHO***

  81. 🙂
    I’m not running away from Gatehouse’s comment … just want to have some family time with my kids.

  82. giveitarest // July 1, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Ducky, defending my post earlier. You seemed to be upset by my post. I said Ashley having that YInformer program made me think of Anthony. I only meant – she mentioned she did websites – our IT guys know all types of little programs like that. Yes, he did pop into my mind, but I also said I was not accusing him. I only meant she makes me think of him (meaning her computer knowledge ONLY)….geesh.
    +++++++++++++++++
    Giveitarest, not speaking for anyone else, but sometimes on blogs we write things that sound totally different from the way we mean them to, or people just misinterpret what we are saying. It has happened countless times to me, so please don’t let this get to you. Besides, you’re welcome to post whatever you want here as long as it’s by the rules of Gatehouse. 😀

  83. Seesh, been there done that. Sometimes we say some things we don’t mean or in anger, but then we take our medicine for that and we’re all better, heh?

    It goes with the program.

  84. My guess is the PR person is doing it for zip with the hopes of promoting his services/being in the “spotlight” if you will.

    I bet he never thought his job would be this tough.

  85. Ashley said…
    Response to Prolly 12:54 PM No one has to try & figure out who I am because I will be coming forward with that in the next few weeks , I can hardly wait …

  86. facsmiley // July 1, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Brodsky always sounds like he just graduated 5th grade. He has to call names.

    ______________

    Gee, Facs, do you think he is smarter than a 5th grader?

  87. noway – I’m going over there now, but she said she’s going to expose herself? Well, I mean say who she is, LOL?

  88. noway – hasn’t anyone asked Brodsky yet why, when he’s responding as he did with Phelps, he has to make it personal and use name calling like a child? Is that is usual means of carrying on a pre-defense or trial defense?

    Just wondering….

  89. Ashley said…
    Response to anonymous @ 12:34 PM , his yahoo screen name is easy to figure out ? Tell me what you think it is and I will tell you if your right and as for him not wanting to get bombarded I dont think so afterall we are talking about a man that loves attention just not NEGATIVE attention .
    ___________
    Anyone taking her up on her offer?

    Kids are ready … I am out of here for a few hours …

  90. Rescue … don’t think anyone had commented after mine about the legal department advice … but I’m not logged on and have to run.

    Kids are giving me the evil eye (which unfortunately, they learned from me)!

    BBL

  91. I see how it works here. So long as you don’t sling hate using a name, it’s all good. I get it nowwwww. Thanks. 😉

  92. Afternoon All –

    I think Ashley is a legend in her own mind. She is thriving on all this attention. I think she is also getting angry that she isn’t getting more of a reaction from Drew and Company. The focus has shifted to Phelps.

    She’ll be coming forward in a few weeks, what does that mean, that’s when the check for the rags will be in the mail to her? That’s when she/he will tell us all she is really just one of us playing a game on Drew?

    She is showing herself to be unstable imo.

    As for the Hosey book, I find it comical. Stacy has been missing 8 months, no indictments etc. What could he possibly have to say that we don’t already know? How factual will this book be, I’m betting the DA’s office, the ISP, the FBI, Drew, JB etc haven’t even given him a sit down interview.

  93. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    I see how it works here. So long as you don’t sling hate using a name, it’s all good. I get it nowwwww. Thanks.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Ten, I guess I’m confused about your post. Was this addressed to anyone in particular?

  94. LTTBF, I feel the same about the book, it is just too soon. But wasn’t he the one that Drew talked to first about all of this. I was wondering if Hosey is and was the reporter of choice for Drew and his attorney. I know I have seen a picture somewhere with Hosey and Steven Peterson walking out of the court house together smiling, I believe I saw that on FSP.

  95. Kekee, that might be. And I have to say, I wouldn’t doubt some from the FSP camp have talked to him.

    Before everyone jumps on me about that comment, I have always felt that some in FSP will say and do anything for attention. Just as Drew and JB do.

  96. I’ll wait for a legit book to come out. Someone like Catherine Crier would write a very detailed book, when and if there is a trial is concluded.

  97. LTTBF, she absolutely thinks she is a legend. Why else would she compare herself to Amber Frey. She is looking for fame and noteriety. I believe she is trying to create a scandal for her own need. Now, if she wants to show some googoo gaga chat prior to Stacy leaving, then we will talk scandal.

  98. I wonder they will grant immunity to a family member if he/she discloses that he/she knew everything if not more than the Pastor from the beginning?

  99. I don’t know for sure, I hope so though. I guess I should have stated my question to reflect as in an adult sibling/extended family member of Stacy or even Drew.

  100. I’m more concerned now about this serial killer running around Illinois….how scary!!!!!

  101. Yes, they do Facs. But addressing teneleven, I don’t know why they wouldn’t grant immunity for the incriminating testimony of a family member if it was sound. It happens all the time with felons, and they get immunity from prosecution just because of what they know. Don’t see why this should be any different if that should happen to be the case. JMO.

  102. Ashley said to a poster:
    I will type this one last time , I never said i got him to confess to any crimes you moron , thats not what this blog is about ..

    +++++++++++++

    If no crimes were confessed, then why drag out the info. Doesn’t make sense.

  103. Ten, I’m confused.

    Are you asking if for instance, Cassandra, or Stephen knew more about all this, would they be given immunity?

  104. The whole Ashley thing is very interesting to me. It doesn’t just show that he is a creep, it shows that he isn’t meaning what he is really saying out loud. How can someone in their right mind say I still love my wife and pull his ear to say that he loves someone else. I know that he is a lier and a cheat, always have. I am with most of you, anything that would have been posted before she went missing could actually be used in the case though.(maybe)

  105. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    I’m more concerned now about this serial killer running around Illinois….how scary!!!!!
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    Which one is that?

  106. I don’t have a good feeling about Ashley. Something is not on the level about his/her posts. Who is to say that it isn’t Drew or one of his current/ex buddies? If he/she has no evidence about the case; I’m done reading there. We can walk down the street, any street, and get opinions of Drew’s character.

  107. The 28 year old male who beats elderly people to death. It is just awful, they said on the news today that he went to a Cardinals game last night at Busch Stadium. Just disgusting!!!

  108. Ashley is getting a little testy isn’t she/he.

    She/he is one sick person as far as I’m concerned.

    Could it be that it’s just dawning on her/him that the whole world hasn’t stopped revolving because she/he started a blog? Could it be she/he just realized that might be getting a visit from authorities? Could it be she/he is getting nervous about possible civil case?

    Answer those questions Ashley, and while your at it, why not just post the WHOLE pm, not just what you want us to see Drew wrote, what about what you wrote, the whole thing.

  109. CNN has been talking about him all day. I think he has killed at least 8 people, some elderly, some children. I believe they said he was last seen yesterday in Collinsville, but is from the Sterling area.

    He looks very creepy also, very, very creepy!!!!

  110. iknoweverythinglol // July 1, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    I’m more concerned now about this serial killer running around Illinois….how scary!!!!!
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    Which one is that?
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    kekee73 // July 1, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    The 28 year old male who beats elderly people to death. It is just awful, they said on the news today that he went to a Cardinals game last night at Busch Stadium. Just disgusting!!!
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    I am sorry I am not very good at this blogging thing yet.

  111. kekee73 // July 1, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    The whole Ashley thing is very interesting to me. It doesn’t just show that he is a creep, it shows that he isn’t meaning what he is really saying out loud. How can someone in their right mind say I still love my wife and pull his ear to say that he loves someone else.

    *****************

    Ah, because he always was, and still is, a womanizer, and chaser. That’s is not disputable. He’s even admitted to it on LKL, I think it was. And the wives that got out alive have said so, as well as a fiance.

    You also said, “how can someone in their right mind……”

    See, IMO, that’s just it. Even though he’s always been a womanizer, on top of all of his legal problems, etc., he’s probably having a hell of a time coming to grips with the fact that he’s no longer Mr. Cop, Mr. I’m So Hot, and I’m So Not That Old, that he can’t handle it. He’s a 54 year old retiree, and he’s now without a wife, raising four minor children, two of whom have another, at least 15 more years under his “wing.”

    He’d grab anything that would look at him twice.

  112. Apparently Ashley believes there is some value in dragging out her posts, hinting at things and meting out tidbits of personal conversations that make people feel a little dirty for having read them.

    I think there are a few correlations between the Ashley experience and the Phelps experience’ disclosure and showers among them.

  113. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 2:12 pm
    Ten, I’m confused.

    Are you asking if for instance, Cassandra, or Stephen knew more about all this, would they be given immunity?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes

  114. Facsmiley – are you thinking that Ashley is a journalist? That is what I think, our very own Chris Hansen.

  115. Well thank you for dealing with me. Like I said before I am an avid reader, but I barely post. I do have alot of thoughts on this case and others also, but I am one of those people that are shy about blogging. I think it is because I am not a very fast typer and I get way behind the discussion to add my thoughts. So now time to take the children swimming and maybe when the discussion is slow and I can keep up I will come back to blog. Thanks again.

  116. Crimerant said that Brodsky was not blocked from posting his comment, and it did not go into the spam section. They say he’s welcome to try again. (Gregg)

  117. Ten –

    I think they would be given immunity, so long as their story can be backed up etc. But what we have seen of some of these characters, I would be leary of putting any of them on the witness stand.

    And I know I will be jumped for this, but I have to say it.

    Everyone talks about what a dog Drew is, affairs etc. Well let’s not forget Stacy was dating Drew, knowing he was married. Stacy was exchanging “racy” text message with a man other than her husband.

    My honest belief is, they both got exactly what they wanted. Stacy wanted stability, which Drew provided. Drew wanted a younger women, which Stacy provided.

    Yes, I know the argument that she was just a child. She was an adult, and she was extremely street smart, she knew exactly what she was getting into. As well did Drew know what he was getting into, that one day she would possibly grow sick of him.

    Nobody will ever convince me that Stacy didn’t know more about Kathleen Savio than she admitted to the Pastor about.

    This will bring me a lot of comments, but this will be nothing compared to a trial, and everything that will be brought out there.

    I am NOT saying she deserves anything terrible to happen to her.

  118. If you ask me, it would be a sad day AT THIS POINT IN TIME if it does come to light that Cassandra was in the know about KS.

    Also agree that he is a TOTAL womanizer always has been always will be. I wonder what made him that way? Seems there would have to be some underlying “stuff” from childhood/adolescence that made him who he is today.

  119. This case is so crazy, I’m open to anything that could be a possibility.

    All I have to really go on is my gut reaction, and with some of these character my gut is telling me they are “dirty,” and know a lot more then they are telling.

  120. LTTBF – There may be truth in some of what you are saying. But I think you could find faults in any murder victim, if you felt like making those the focus of discussion.

    I’ve just never understood why the victim’s shortcomings are more interesting to some than the actual murder?

    Why isn’t it possible to look at her as a complete human being who made bad choices but who also did some really good stuff? Why the compulsion to dig up dirt and to dwell on it over and over.

    It’s as if in a discussion about the crimes on humanity committed at Abu Graib, someone suddenly wanted to dredge up all the reasons that those people were in prison to begin with.

    That’s not really the issue.

  121. If anyone like Steve knew about drew killing kathleen and was not questioned about it and lied they can not be charged with anything.. You do not have to report crimes in this country.

  122. You know, if Ashley was trying to stir up controversy – it certainly is working. I’ve never seen such a split in comments between ‘you go girl’ and ‘lame attention whore!’ on any blog.

  123. Facs, It’s not digging up dirt, its out there. We don’t know for certain that she is a victim. If we did for certain know, someone mainly Drew would be sitting in Will County Jail awaiting trial.

    Just like she made bad decision so has Drew, so has everyone involved in this.

    The issue is looking at every angle, not just the one’s we want to see. It may not be pretty, but its the facts of the case.

    I have so many questions about so many people in this case, not just Drew and his actions.

    And I do believe there are people involved that know a lot more than they are saying, or will even admit to, and that includes both sides.

  124. either one. Drew could have told them he killed her and unless the cops questioned them they do not have to report it.

  125. I thought hidden knowledge of a crime would make you suseptable to prosecution charging you as an accomplice. Of course only if it were known that you were hiding.

  126. Let said: Nobody will ever convince me that Stacy didn’t know more about Kathleen Savio than she admitted to the Pastor about.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Well Let, the thing is we don’t know what all Stacy admitted to Neil Schori. She very well may have admitted to more than what we have been told by Neil in the single interview he has given. Since she was heavily pregnant with Lacy, and had baby Anthony at home, I don’t think that she would have been physically involved in Kathleen’s murder, but that’s partly the mother in me wanting to believe that.

    We’re all going to believe what we want to no matter what anyone else believes. 😀

  127. cfs, and I respect that.

    I know it’s hard to believe mother’s would harm their children, leave them etc, but sadly it happens. I wish to hell it never did, I really do.

    I’m always reminded of the Marilyn Lemak case here. Loving mother, professional women, divorce pending, and she killed all three of her children, it’s just plain sick.

  128. Even his son Steve as a Law Enforcement Official. Isn’t he obligated to report crime? Isn’t there some oath to do so (not that I don’t think it is beneath some LE to not report it and to also lie)

  129. thechuckles // July 1, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    I thought hidden knowledge of a crime would make you suseptable to prosecution charging you as an accomplice. Of course only if it were known that you were hiding.
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    only if you were part of the coverup. If you simply knew about it and never told anyone you can not be charged.

  130. And I do believe there are people involved that know a lot more than they are saying, or will even admit to, and that includes both sides.
    ———————————————————–

    I sure hope it’s not Cassandra.

    Whatever she knew should have been shouted from the roof tops on Oct. 28, 2007, regardless of any possible legal charges she may have had to face.

  131. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Even his son Steve as a Law Enforcement Official. Isn’t he obligated to report crime? Isn’t there some oath to do so (not that I don’t think it is beneath some LE to not report it and to also lie)
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Yes he would be required to report it if he was a cop at the time of learning about it.

  132. facsmiley // July 1, 2008 at 11:15 am

    I keep waiting for the indication that DP scorned Ashley in some way but so far I haven’t seen it. From what DP wrote in his email to her on Friday it sounds as if he still cared for her and she was the one who broke it off (probably because of Kim M?).

    There’s a difference between a woman scorned and a woman betrayed. That said, I don’t think it’s all that important what ended the good will between them, whether or not it was a set-up, or even if Ashley is multiple people…or a man for that matter.

    And I do find that their conversations have revealed a few bits of interesting info.

    Drew was eager to liquidate Stacy’s assets and get a divorce by March. Drew has talked about marriage with at least two women since Stacy went missing. That Drew’s need to charm and draw in vulnerable people has not abated. etc.
    ______________________

    I’m trying to catch up with today’s thread – and the weekend threads, as I had two grandchildren over the weekend and not much computer time.

    I count at least 3 women since March that Drew has talked about marriage with……………….

    First there was Denise Werner, who stated words to the effect that they had to wait until November for Drew to legally divorce Stacy and be free to marry.

    Second was Kim, who also stated Drew said something about wanting to spend the rest of his life with her.

    And now third we have Ashley, whom Drew was corresponding with during the time he was seeing Kim.

    Ashley states that she hadn’t heard from Drew since May 11th, until she got that email from him in response to her blog.

    It’s now July 1st, so it’s likely that Drew has gone through at least one or two more relationships since May 11th.

    I’m sure that as time goes on, we’ll hear of more relationships Drew has had. I’m sure that if the truth be known, Drew was having extramarital relationships prior to Stacy’s disappearance.

    A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots, and a scumbag like Drew doesn’t change either. He can’t change – he’s a narcissistic personality. He looks in the mirror every day and sees someone different than the rest of the world sees. He sees a 54 year old man who he thinks looks 30. The rest of the world sees a dried up, wrinkled, old man, with bags under his eyes. He thinks he’s charming – the rest of the world sees a liar with no compassion for any other human, who cannot feel real human emotions.

  133. amandareckonwith // July 1, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Was Lacy born in 2004?

    I thought it was Jan 2005. It was reported that the children were 2 and 3 when Stacy went missing.

    Anthony was born in 2003.
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    Don’t know her birthday Amanda. But she came along right after Anthony, who was already born when Drew and Stacy married. They married shortly after the divorce. Stacy was already pregnant during the divorce, so and it was just a few months later that Kathleen was killed. Don’t know anything for sure about any dates. Sorry.

  134. You’re right Amanda … she was 2 in 2007; she is 3 now.

    So I don’t guess Stacy was pregnant then …

  135. March 2004 was when Kathleen died; If Stacy was pregnant in March … I don’t think she would have been “so pregnant” that she could not have overpowered Kathleen.

    Right?

  136. I hope you all are not thinking that I mean Stacy killed Kathleen, that is not it at all.

    I just have questions about her level of involvment, or what she actually knew, if in fact Drew killed Kathleen.

  137. The discussion first came up because Matt said that Joel and Drew’s spin on the book was that Stacy killed Kathleen (I believe Joel has since denied this).

    So that’s what got us talking about whether we thought it was possible that Stacy could have overpowered Kathleen. Someone said she was pregnant in 2004, and I envisioned myself pregnant and my own ability to overpower anyone.

    It’s a moot point since Drew and Joel deny that this was what the book was going to say (or did I imagine that?).

  138. Yes Noway, you’re right. Didn’t know when Lacy was born, but had read Stacy was very pregnant when Kathleen died. Counldn’t have been true if Lacy was born in January. I know Drew and Stacy were, but Lacy was too?

  139. Well, if Lacy turned 3 in November or December 2007, then she was born in 2004 … and Stacy would have been pregnant in March 2004 but barely.

    And that brings me back to what is Lacy’s birthday.

    BUT since Drew and Joel said they were never going to write this (Stacy killed Kathleen) then it’s all moot.

    And now I have to go read all those Joel posts again to see if I am imagining that Joel said that was not the slant of the book at all or whether I just inferred that from his answer.

    😦

  140. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I’m always reminded of the Marilyn Lemak case here. Loving mother, professional women, divorce pending, and she killed all three of her children, it’s just plain sick.
    ************************************

    Really? I don’t see much in her case to remind you of stacy?

    Stacy wasn’t a professional woman.
    There was no divorce pending.
    She didn’t kill her children, in fact no one killed the children.

    So that leaves the only thing in common that the two were loving mothers.

  141. To bad Basherette isn’t posting today. She’d now exactly when the little people were born.

    BASHERETTE, WAKE UP!

  142. We have all been reading that Stacy was pregnant at the time of KS’ death. But if she was, she has just become pregnant.

    And I don’t know Lacy’s birthdate, but I have read January 2005, near Stacy’s birthday. No clue if it is true.

    And no, I do not think Stacy killed KS.
    But obviously she knew about it all along. She had a great motive to keep it quiet and provide the alibi. Money. She had never had such a nice home, nice things. That motivation is powerful.

    –Until you can no longer live with the guilt?
    –Until you get fed up with the one you alibied?
    –Until you want out?

  143. Facs, if you will reread my post, it was about mothers that do things that we wouldnt think possible, in response to cfs post.

  144. Yeah, I remember too that she was pregnant at the time of KS’s death, because KS and DP were in a battle about something, and KS relinquished so that the insurance would cover Stacy’s pregnancy.

    amanda – And no, I do not think Stacy killed KS.
    But obviously she knew about it all along. She had a great motive to keep it quiet and provide the alibi. Money. She had never had such a nice home, nice things. That motivation is powerful.

    –Until you can no longer live with the guilt?
    –Until you get fed up with the one you alibied?
    –Until you want out?

    Or, and it should also be added, he threatened to rearrange her face for her if she didn’t keep her mouth shut. Maybe he only had to say it once and that was enough.

    There’s plenty of reason to back that up, since he’s still got two wives that got out alive that can vouch for his evil threats, and a former fiance.

  145. What was about to happen had Kathleen not been killed was the property settlement.

    It has nothing to do with insurance for a birth.

    Anthony was alrady born at the time of Stacy/Drew’s marriage 10/18/03.

    Lacy’s birth would have been covered anyways.

  146. LLTBF – I meant MAYBE he threatened Stacy if she uttered a word about KS’s death at his hands, and it was only a play on words. I meant that as an addition to the reasons SP stayed with Drew.

    Technically, what I meant was, maybe he threatened to kill her, like he did his other wives, if she ever thought about leaving him or telling the police he was responsible for KS’s death.

  147. cfs7360 // July 1, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Facs, about Hosey’s book…..have no interest in buying or reading it, but some will, I’m sure. Just doesn’t seem to me that there would be anything in it that most of us don’t already know since there hasn’t been an arrest or trial yet. My personal opinion is he jumped the gun writing it, because how could he have had an ending? And no, I’m not going to buy it to find out, but I was wondering if he’s planning on writing a sequel when/if a trial gets underway. Anybody know?

    _____________________

    I don’t know if Hosey is planning on a sequel with the details of the trial, but I’m also not interested in a book written now and by a reporter.

    Nor would I ever be interested in any book written or co-authored by Drew Peterson and/or Joel Brodsky with a journalist. Neither Drew or Joel have any credibility and in that telephone interview with Matt, admitted to wanting to write a book trashing Drew’s wives and blaming Stacy for Kathleen’s death. That book would be a work of fiction. Both Drew and Joel have lied so much, I don’t think they’re capable of telling the truth.

    What I would be interested in is a book by a credible journalist like Anne Rule, who does in-depth interviews with all the individuals involved. But, I recently read that Anne Rule is very ill.

  148. Yeah, but Amanda, there was an issue regarding Drew and his insurance. Something like KS had a restraining order against him, and it needed to be dropped so as not to jeopordize his job and losing the insurance. I thought it also was because she was pregnant.

    If not, then I’m wrong, I apologize.

  149. Ah, Amanda, yeah, I’m thinking this through now, you’re right. Has nothing to do with KS’s death. It was the property settlement. My mistake. Sorry.

  150. I didn’t post right for that to make sense.

    Yes, DP and KS were in the middle of a heated property settlement; they were already divorced.

    By her death, the property settlement fight ended with it. He was the main beneficiary, or, at the very least, the proceeds of just about everything ended up with him.

  151. WOW. Drew gets dumber by the minute. In Ashley’s latest post – He tells her “If she didn’t want me she could have just left”

    Hmmmm….. What’s up with that? I thought she did just leave you with another man.

  152. He wanted to take her to California with him?

    He’s got a very similar way of writing like Brodsky. Poor grammer at times, incorrect spelling. That’s odd.

    I wonder if he has ever written the word riding in any of his posts?

    If you will recall, when the “racy” text message was found on the SIMM card by Peterson, he said “Thanks for ridding [sic] me like a bucking bronco last night.”

    That “guy” couldn’t spell either.

  153. I remember it being reported that Kathleen agreed to allowing the divorce to be declared final in October of 2003, so that Drew and Stacy could be married. By that time, Anthony had already been born and was about 8 – 10 months old.

    Drew and Stacy were married in October 2003, and the property settlement was the only outstanding item in the divorce.

    One thing to be noted………Stacy was already married to Drew at the time of Kathleen’s murder.

    I’m not defending Stacy’s actions in this regard, but if she knew that Drew had killed Kathleen, Stacy was caught between a rock and a hard place. She was already married to him, and if she told the police that her husband was NOT home in bed the night of Kathleen’s death, and that she had called his cell phone numerous times to find out where he was, her marriage would have been over before it even began.

    If Stacy was already pregnant with Laci, then that may have weighed on her mind too. She was young, 21-years-old, with one child and possibly one on the way. She made the mistake that many young women make – thinking they can change the man they married, and thinking that what her husband had done in the past wouldn’t happen again.

  154. I wonder how many more Ooops there are LOL

    I like the money post to, they are very important in the case.

  155. noway – I think we all probably thought that, but if you look at the emails from Drew to Ashley, there are some spelling mistakes.

    Now, we all make typos and such, especially here when we’re in a hurry to get a thought or post out, and I’m the first one to admit it.

    In one of Drew’s emails, he misused the word “waste.” He wrote it as “waist.” Used it incorrectly in the sentence. Spelled it right, but it was the wrong word.

    Brodsky does the same thing – he mangles many words. I could understand letting one or two through, or making the “your” instead of “you’re” mistake because of lack of proofreading or rushing, but both DP and his attorney are quite habitual in misspelling words.

    Ridding? Who spells a 5th grade word like “riding” as “ridding?” Bet DP does.

  156. That’s why I said I wondered if somehow they teach English differently in Chicagoland schools. Every seems to make the same awful mistakes.

  157. Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #469 Today at 3:56pm »

    I just tried again to post to crimerant and I got the same message as before: “you have been flagged by our spam blocker”. So why are they telling their spam blocker to flag me? And then they go on there blog and say they haven’t blocked me. What liars!!! I am through with them. Mr. Phelps will be hearing from the Chief States Attorney for the State Of Connecticut soon enough, so he can explain everything to him. I made a formal complaint today. I am through dealing with a slimy lying pos who surupticiously records telephone calls he agrees are confidential and then lies about what was said. Let the true crime writer deal with the criminal justice system from a different prospective. (BTW Phelps, if you read this thanks for saying in writing on the internet that your agent Mr. Miller knew about you making the illegal recording. Do you think that makes him a co-conspirator? Do you think Miller be happy about that?)

  158. It might make Joel Brodsky fee better to know that I can’t post there anymore either. I tried a few times and got various errors…I think I tried too many times in succession so that now their system believes I am a common spammer. I also tried to email Gregg Olsen only to have my email returned as spam.

    There was a link to read about the issue in my return-mail notice and it looks like the spam catcher might just be over-zealous and they recommend that you contact the administrator with your concerns. Of course, I can’t do that because I can’t post or email. Cuz I’m spam.

    The worst of it is now I have something in come with L’Brodsque.

  159. And then they go on there blog and say they haven’t blocked me. What liars!!! I am through with them. Mr. Phelps will be hearing from the Chief States Attorney for the State Of Connecticut soon enough, so he can explain everything to him. I made a formal complaint today. I am through dealing with a slimy lying pos who surupticiously records telephone calls he agrees are confidential and then lies about what was said.

    *****************
    “there” blog (their blog)
    surupticiously (surreptitiously)

    Class, today we are going to learn the proper use for the homonyms, there and their.

    And if we’re going to use big lawyer words, we all might as well learn how to spell some of them.

    Can you spell surreptitiously?

    Pop quiz tomorrow.

  160. I am through dealing with a slimy lying pos who surupticiously records telephone calls he agrees are confidential and then lies about what was said.

    Official lawyer talk? 😀

  161. Of course he’s through with them … he’s got more important things to worry about … like his client’s post on Ashley’s blog in which Drew said if she (Stacy) didn’t want him, all she had to do was leave.

    Learn to ride a unicycle … makes the backpedaling you have to do in life much easier!

    ;D

  162. The more I sent the rants from Brodsky, the more I’m thinking there’s some interest stuff that was said.

    Yesterday, he was all for them sending out emails and audios. Today, he’s like a lunatic.

    If his partners don’t dump his butt now and send his client on his way with him, they’re as goofy as he is.

    What a disgrace to his profession. Really.

  163. Anonymous said…
    Ashley,

    is it bpd95969?

    July 1, 2008 5:21 PM

    Ashley said…
    Response to anonymous @ 5:21 PM , Ding Ding Ding – we have a winner ..

    July 1, 2008 5:22 PM

    Ashley said…
    thats his yahoo screen name , now can you guess his aol mail name ?

    July 1, 2008 5:24 PM

  164. Did I wander into the production room of a publishing company? lol

    I know who to go to now for all my proofreading and editing needs…..;)

  165. Let’s see. I lost my score card. Anyone else have one?

    Brodsky called LE and reported Stacy sightings; Peoria, Kentucky, Thailand

    Sharon detained Anthony – police called

    Sharon installed outside cameras – police called

    Drew house egged – police called

    Phelps – Chief Attorney General notified of illegal activity

    Did I miss anything?

  166. giveitarest // July 1, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Ducky, defending my post earlier. You seemed to be upset by my post. I said Ashley having that YInformer program made me think of Anthony. I only meant – she mentioned she did websites – our IT guys know all types of little programs like that. Yes, he did pop into my mind, but I also said I was not accusing him. I only meant she makes me think of him (meaning her computer knowledge ONLY)….geesh.
    ——————————————————
    Me upset? Not at all. Seriously, I had to go back and see what I said to you. This old hen can’t remember that well. 😉

    I missed so much today. I’m trying to catch up. Off to Ashley’s. I could have guessed his screen name. That was the first thing that came to mind. Was there a prize that I missed out on?

    Where is BASH? Anyone?

  167. Did I miss something? Ashley says that she wished that they hadn’t met? Does that mean in person?

    Thanks all. I should have been warned that I would need a bucket and a shower before going to Ashley’s. I thought that I had “friends” here?

  168. On a side note-that serial killer was in IL and MO. Take cover! SCARY-8 people the last time that I heard. Updates?

  169. iknoweverythinglol // July 1, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Look at chuckles avatar!!! Maybe he doesn’t know it is showing.
    ——————————————————-
    We have a chuckles? I hate clowns. I hope that if the FBI is here, they aren’t looking like his avatar.

  170. IKELOL, said they hated clowns too, so I picked something more fitting since the FBI is on the case.

  171. thechuckles // July 1, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    IKELOL, said they hated clowns too, so I picked something more fitting since the FBI is on the case.
    ——————————————————–
    Really? IKELOL and I agreed? hehe The clown must be a childhood thing. I have no idea why I hate them so much. Your FBI guy needs to wake up and get some arrests done in this case.

  172. Ducky, nothing too new about the serial killer, still 8 people, and the FBI is on the manhunt now for him.

    Take cover is right!!!!!

  173. It was difficult to see the blogspot stuff one at a time and out of order, so I put them in chronological order under suspect on my forum if anyone is interested.

  174. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Ducky, nothing too new about the serial killer, still 8 people, and the FBI is on the manhunt now for him.

    Take cover is right!!!!!
    ——————————————————
    TY. So many sicko’s out there. I’m beginning to lose faith.

    LTTBF-what do you think of the lastest round of Ashley posts? She sure sounds like a woman scorned. It feels gross to read that stuff but then it interests me because I figured that Drew was doing stuff like this. Why hasn’t LE shut her down? I’m torn on whether it should be out there or not. Unfortunately, the teenagers probably see him doing his online chats.

    What does everyone else think?

  175. I don’t put much weight into the Ashley stuff. In all honesty I think it’s either a very sick women, or he/she that did it for the fun of it.

    The last time I looked, the times they talked were much later in the evening. The teenagers are probably so wrapped up in their own electronic world to careless what dad is doing. From what I have seen with teenagers, they live in a different world then me….lol.

    And I really, really wish she/he would post the whole conversations, not just bits and pieces.

    As far as LE, I don’t think they care. He hasn’t confessed, nor broken any laws.

    What I did find interesting is the comment something on the lines of, you will know who I am in a few weeks. Either she/he is selling the story, or they are just gonna come out and admit it was just an ordinary person playing a game with him, and got us all worked up…..lol.

  176. Thanks. I’m conflicted about the blog. I think that she was a member of one of the boards and played a game with him. A very dangerous game. JMO Time will tell.

    The worst part of the messages it the way he talked about Stacy. He’s obviously a very cold man without any emotion. If they had a movie part where a guy played the victim, Drew would win an Academy Award.

  177. lttbe- I agree I wait for the whole conversations, I suppose her screen shot program limits the amount shown. Should we assume she is showing the most or least interesting content?

  178. Just for the record, because I’ve seen at least three people do this (including BM), “careless” means, without a care, or thoughtless. When written as one word it is an adjective like “pretty”. “It was careless of me to have murdered my two wives in that fashion”.

    But if you want to say that someone does not care at all then you need to use two words as in, “I couldn’t care less.”

    Not to be snarky or word police, but I keep seeing it written like that, and I can’t be quiet any longer.

  179. My take is she has a very very very personal vendetta and that this had nothing to do with justice or the good of/for Kathleen or Stacy. Nope. She is pissed.

  180. I still don’t see her as anyone who was scorned …

    I think she set him up (fake PM) and initiated chat to just see where it went. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

    I don’t see the point in blocking out his information if you are going to tell someone when they figured it out.

  181. Maybe a family member (or her) was married to a guy just like Drew and she is getting justice by proxy.

    Meanwhile … I keep reading. 🙂

  182. There is something that women see in Drew, I personally don’t know what that is. But he has had no problems throughout his adult life finding women that are interested in him.

    I have tried to put myself in his position, just like I have Stacy.

    If, and I say if, he truly believes she ran off, and he had nothing at all to do with her disappearance, he might very well be the type of person that just moves on.

    I know myself, that’s how I am. If I knew for a fact my loved one ran off….Good riddance, and you wouldn’t catch me looking for him, tracking him down etc. I would let the attorney’s and the courts handle the matter.

    Would that be considered cold-hearted, more than likely it would, but it doesn’t mean I’m without a heart. I just have an ability to move on. Not everyone is that way, and I understand that. I have friends the I get so frustrated with because they are in bad situations, and stay. I can’t for the life of me understand that.

    So I don’t understand them, and they don’t understand me. It doesn’t make either of us right or wrong, its just how we are formed.

  183. facs, could be someone isn’t sure how to write it, sees how someone did it and copies their error without knowing it was an error.

    My sister had a coworker who always said something was a “mute” point. In a meeting she must have said it 5 or 6 times. By the end of the meeting, two people who had used it correctly (moot) were saying “mute point” as well.

    Every time someone says “moot” I think of my sister telling that story. 😉

  184. I know NoWay. I’ve got no malice towards the people who do it. I just can’t take it anymore.

    That’s just my ‘candied’ opinion. 🙂

  185. LTTBF – How would you feel if your spouse ran away, but also left angry and took with them the knowledge that you had killed your previous spouse? Would you be as easy-going about it then?

  186. And I do think Ashley, whomever it is, is amongst us. Last night I paid attention to posts she made, times etc, and then looked here to see who discussed it, or brought it up.

    Just my opinion of course.

  187. I’m not going to send email to Drew but you think he’d be smart enought to change his account BEFORE Ashley found a winner (which she has).

    So his yahoo ID is out there an his email … tips with sitings of Stacy should be pouring in about now. 🙂

  188. facs-stop picking on me! I could careless what you think. It’s a mute point. 😉

    Facs and Noway. LOL!

  189. Well, let, I’ll agree that she reads here or has a spy who does … nobody posted anything about the space between the punctuation on Ashley’s site but she knew about it … maybe someone emailed her or she was reading here … I don’t know.

  190. Facs, if I knew my spouse had murdered another spouse, I would feel the same. I would have to keep in the back of my mind, that I myself could be in trouble for holding onto the truth of the previous murder.

    And I might add, if I found out my spouse murdered someone, they wouldn’t be my spouse very long. They would be sitting in prison.

  191. If everyone had the perfect grammar and punctuation, then I couldn’t figure out some of the posters 😉

  192. I’ve posted a request for Ashley to post the PM that started it all … the one Drew says he never sent. We’ll see.

    I’ll be gone for the rest of the night … birthday party for two family members (yesterday and today).

    Carp … I just know something fun will happen while I’m gone.

  193. LOL facs just has a bit of OCD, we all have pet peeves. I can’t stand it when people say “I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less”. They have opposite meanings, it makes me nuts! I will admit I am lazy when I type and would prefer to skip proper spelling, capitalization and punctuation most of the time, but I am afraid people will think I am illiterate. We all have things that get under our skin…Yeah, and DON’T leave the lid off the tooth paste.

  194. OT:

    I have an issue. We just had new siding put on and the crew that did it took down my flag and laided it in the yard. I didn’t notice it until late that evening. I picked it up immed. and placed it against the house, not touching the ground.

    The work is done and I’m ready to put it back up. Do I need to give this one to the American Legions to dispose of, since it touched the ground, or can I still fly it?

    Anyone know?

    I’ve visited a couple of sites and have seen different views.

  195. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    And I do think Ashley, whomever it is, is amongst us. Last night I paid attention to posts she made, times etc, and then looked here to see who discussed it, or brought it up.

    Just my opinion of course.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I absolutely agree, her reactions have followed what has been posted here.
    Come out ashley, who are you really?

  196. We all can’t be brillant in every subject. Sorry if my spelling, grammar, punctuation etc isn’t up to par for some. I can’t change it overnight, so you’ll just have to skip over my posts.

    I did excel at other subjects quiet well though. 🙂

  197. duckyone // July 1, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    facs-stop picking on me! I could careless what you think. It’s a mute point.
    ***************

    Hehe, showed me!

    I’ll stop it now. I know it’s rude, but sometimes I can’t help it.

  198. The more I think of it, I do think Ashley is just someone that thought it would be funny to mess with Drew.

    Again a dangerous game for whomever is playing it.

    Not dangerous in the way of Drew doing something to them, dangerous in the way of being dragged into this mess.

  199. LLTBF – you misread my question.
    **************************************

    facsmiley // July 1, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    LTTBF – How would you feel if your spouse ran away, but also left angry and took with them the knowledge that you had killed your previous spouse? Would you be as easy-going about it then?

  200. I admit the picky thing is a bad habit, especially since my spelling and grammar aren’t perfect either. I know if we all me in real life you guys would have a special T-shirt for me.

    Sgt. Snarky of the Word Police

    or something…

    (notice always 3 periods in my elipses – yep OCD)

  201. I didn’t misread your question, I answered your question. I would be the exact same way. Be gone, good riddance. My mind set would be, so I told them I killed someone, that makes them an part of the murder, and or, possible cover up.

    So if they want to go public with it, so be it, I would go public also.

    But as I said I wouldn’t be married to someone that had committ murder. I don’t care about the circumstances, I would be so far gone it wouldn’t even be funny, and the person would be sitting in prison.

  202. OT: LTTBF
    I would call your local VFW tomorrow. I think as long as the flag isn’t soiled it would be OK. But, if you want an official opinion call the VFW or Boy scouts.

  203. I understand pet peeves, we all have them. But telling us time and time again how bad we are at spelling etc isn’t gonna change the matter.

    I wish I could snap my fingers and be an english major, a proofreader, and editor….its just not in my gene pool.

  204. Thanks MyBlue….I will do just that. I have read some websites that say you can gently clean them and rehang…but I would just prefer to do what is right, and get a new one if that is the proper thing.

  205. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    I didn’t misread your question, I answered your question. I would be the exact same way. Be gone, good riddance. My mind set would be, so I told them I killed someone, that makes them an part of the murder, and or, possible cover up.
    **********************************

    That IS easygoing. Most people couldn’t sleep at night knowing that there is someone who can go to the police at any time and tell them in detail exactly how I committed a murder.

    Those people who go tell…they usually end up doing just fine.

  206. Want to know the funniest part of my spelling gene, or lack of?

    My father is a retired High School teacher, and my Mother was in the publishing business her whole career. She proofread, copy edited, edited, all the good stuff in the production arena.

    When she passed away I donated all her Dorland’s, Style manuals etc to a publishing company. She had stacks of style books, depending on the area of the publication, medical, advertising.

  207. I wonder…How long it will take before we get all the information from “Ashley”..It’s starting to sound like it could take weeks……..sigh

  208. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    I understand pet peeves, we all have them. But telling us time and time again how bad we are at spelling etc isn’t gonna change the matter.

    I wish I could snap my fingers and be an english major, a proofreader, and editor….its just not in my gene pool.
    ***************************
    Sensitive! I don’t think I’ve ever said anything to you about your spelling. Of course, I have no idea who you might be but I do plead guilty to taking a few individuals to task over that.

    Namely Drew Peterson , Joel Brodsky, Ashley and BigM. If none of those people are you then there’s no need to take my remarks personally.

  209. teneleven // July 1, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Ashley’s credibility has nothing to do with what drew typed.

    I beg to differ slightly on the credibility part, but I will reach with you and agree for now.

    Now reach with me – she should have just turned it all over to LE, kept quiet and it would have been a nice surprise for the defense. Or am I missing something here?

    Hopefully if there were other Ashely’s – that is the route they took.
    _________________________

    I disagree, and agree.
    I agree that Ashley’s credibility IS at question because if she isn’t credible then how is one to believe Drew even typed anything at all? I definetly agree she should not have posted this all over the internet and should have taken it straight to the ISP…however, there is also another thought here……………what if she IS the ISP? Sure got lucky to find him in the wide world of the net, eh? So if that would be the case…(her being ISP) then that explains her not being afraid of meeting him. She clearly stated today that they met. It would also explain why Drew and Brodsky are keeping thier mouths shut and not out blabbering about “Ashley”. Just a thought.

  210. The minute, ok maybe the following day, after contacting an attorney, I would be at the police department telling them everything I knew.

    I couldn’t sleep with a person that I knew committed murder.

    I just couldn’t and wouldn’t.

    But that’s me, everyone’s different.

  211. I could buy it possibly being the ISP and trying to set up Drew….but I can’t believe they would then make a blog and post that stuff. It would be picked apart in court. I would hope they would be a bit more professional than that.

  212. Lavanda, I’ve been meaning to ask you, what did you think of the Neil Entwistle verdict, that is somewhat in your region?

  213. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    The minute, ok maybe the following day, after contacting an attorney, I would be at the police department telling them everything I knew.

    I couldn’t sleep with a person that I knew committed murder.

    I just couldn’t and wouldn’t.
    **************************

    Well, see I think Stacy was the same way and as soon as she was out of Drew’s control, she was going to go to LE. Drew knew that, so he couldn’t let her leave. So he killed her.

  214. Why wouldnt she have gone right away? Are you saying she had just found out?

    I’m just asking because I have been under the impression she knew from the get go what happened to Kathleen.

  215. letthetruthbefree // July 1, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    The minute, ok maybe the following day, after contacting an attorney, I would be at the police department telling them everything I knew.

    I couldn’t sleep with a person that I knew committed murder.

    I just couldn’t and wouldn’t.

    But that’s me, everyone’s different.
    **********

    Naw not everyone….I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HERE !!!!!!!!!

  216. LetTheTruthBeFree, Ok……….I take my thoughts back. Ididn’t know there were comment sections on that blog! GOOD GRACIOUS! Noooooooooooo…after reading all the Ashley responses to her posts….no way would she be ISP. Scratch that thought. Back to my first thoughts………just someone who may want the attention by posting all this. Personally, if it were NOT for attention….any “normal” woman would have ran this straight to the ISP and not said a word……..and certainly not posted it on a website. Right?

  217. I wouldn’t Lavanda, thats like messing with a sleeping bear. She even told him she thought he killed Stacy, so what the heck.

    And like I have said the last couple of days, I would hate to be the DA’s office and working this case. Logging on everyday to see new crap, they have to be banging their heads on the desk at this point, along with ISP…..lol.

  218. LTTBF, I have to be real honest….of all the times to be so busy with work and home and son’s graduation and out of town guests….I didn’t get to follow it as I had hoped. Yes, the trial was in Woburn MA which is only about 50 miles from me in NH….the only “concerning” part that was stated all over the news was the fact that she had gun residue on her and they didn’t allow that to trial? That is somewhat a scary thought in that it would surely get him a new trial. As for guilty….boy is this biased…but he sure LOOKED it through the whole court hearing. I don’t believe I personally could ever make it to be a jury member. I think I could be easily disqualified because I honestly rely on my intuition a lot and it’s usually 99.9% accurate. LOL. All a jury screener would have to hear is that and they would throw me out and not put me on a jury!

  219. The Mims thing always makes me laugh. First he was the worst guy in the world, Drews friend. Then he became lower than pond scum, he sold his story to the NE. Then he became a great person, he donated at one of the benefits, then he was pond scum again because he started a blog….hahahahahaha.

  220. Sorry for the OT – been reading but not posting lately –
    Looks like that serial killer has been captured, you can rest easier. Just heard a snippet about an upcoming news conference.
    TTYL

  221. I don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea. It’s that 28 year old guy they’ve been looking for.

  222. And like I have said the last couple of days, I would hate to be the DA’s office and working this case. Logging on everyday to see new crap, they have to be banging their heads on the desk at this point, along with ISP…..lol.
    __________________

    ROFL. Can you imagine?? I tell ya’ , while my exmil was here she got me watching Young n Restless…I havent seen that show since 1979….I keep trying to tell her this DP case is far more like a never ending soap opera but only real life! Next thing you know….DP is probably going to start a reality show……..nothing would surprise me!

  223. Oh, all you (well, us) armchair quarterbacks. It’s interesting reading. Take it as you see it.

    I don’t know what to make of it or why, but I’m pretty sure Ashley, whoever she is, whatever her reasons, why, when, where and how, is not a suspect in the murder of two women.

    Criticize her, fine, that’s your absolute right, but after you get done with her, then you should start on Brodsky, and go right on down the line. Why is he lodging a defense of a murderous womanizer on the Internet, all the time allowing his client to frolic with the babes online, in chat rooms? There’s a saying I like to use – don’t give someone a bat to beat you over the head with!!!

    All the while, Brodsky and Selig are trying to spoon feed us staged videos of what a great Mr. Mom, chief cook and bottle washer Drew Peterson is.

    Oh, pooey. Ashley isn’t the enemy. Drew Peterson and Joel Brodsky are.

    And, that’s just my opinion. I’m not the enemy either……… (going in Bash’s corner now.)

  224. Izzy…are you saying a 28 year old guy is the serial killer in IL? What is wrong with this world? Now they are saying the pregnant army girl was killed by a serial killer who sent a letter to the police with the same symbol he drew on the motel bathroom mirror and claims he has killed many before and many to come. SICK people. I don’t think ANYWHERE is safe anymore:(

  225. Lavanda, I went to the trial one afternoon. I just wanted to see him with my own eyes, and could only handle sitting through two fast witnesses.

    I think the gun residue was because she had her arm draped over Lily.

    The Defense Attorney, ugh, I couldn’t stomach him at all, but his co- consul (sp) I did respect her and her approach.

    That case was pretty much cut and clear, as far as I was concerned.

    And Neil’s mothers comments afterwards….I was literally floored, literally.

  226. Rescue, no need for the corner.

    JB and Drew have been beat up far more than Ashley, she is new on the scene, that’s why all the talk about her now.

    She will soon fade away I’m sure.

  227. Oh no. I’m not saying Ashley is the enemy….not at all. My feeling is that why on earth is she posting this publicly? This could actually HURT the case? How will they find a jury of one’s peers if the media gets ahold of this? Everyone reads the dumb headlines in the grocery lines on those National Enquirers…if anything out of sheer boredom…this could get way out of hand. Anyhow, personally….she should have carted all that crap in a box and planted it on the desk at the ISP and NOT posted it publicly. JMHO. And what is wrong with her that she carried this on for so long AND THEN MET HIM in person? I know I didn’t misread that line in today’s post of their exchange………………she actually went out and met him! (or him her)……………..Now that is not saying there is a lot of common sense going on……….right?

  228. I have CNN on, I hope they come on soon and say something about this serial killer in Illinois.

    He creeped me out.

  229. Letthetruthbefree, how did you take this?

    The part where Drew says: “…if she didn’t want me she could have just left me…” sounds like an outright confession to me.

    I read understood it to be she could have just left him as in left the marriage you know the way people leave marriages – as in a divorce. Not as in running away/disappearing.

    And I’m a believer in his guilt.

    So am I totally out of my mind?

  230. rescueapet // July 1, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Oh, all you (well, us) armchair quarterbacks. It’s interesting reading. Take it as you see it.

    I don’t know what to make of it or why, but I’m pretty sure Ashley, whoever she is, whatever her reasons, why, when, where and how, is not a suspect in the murder of two women.

    Criticize her, fine, that’s your absolute right, but after you get done with her, then you should start on Brodsky, and go right on down the line. Why is he lodging a defense of a murderous womanizer on the Internet, all the time allowing his client to frolic with the babes online, in chat rooms? There’s a saying I like to use – don’t give someone a bat to beat you over the head with!!!

    All the while, Brodsky and Selig are trying to spoon feed us staged videos of what a great Mr. Mom, chief cook and bottle washer Drew Peterson is.

    Oh, pooey. Ashley isn’t the enemy. Drew Peterson and Joel Brodsky are.

    And, that’s just my opinion. I’m not the enemy either……… (going in Bash’s corner now.)

    *****THIS POST GETS MY VOTE FOR “THE BEST POST OF THE NIGHT !!!!!!!!! ********

  231. And Neil’s mothers comments afterwards….I was literally floored, literally.
    _________________________

    So was everyone who watched the news. Even if that is what she “felt”……….it should not have been said. Talk about slapping down the victim’s family. The most compelling part of all is him booking off. If she committed suicide/murder….he would not have ran off.

  232. The part where Drew says: “…if she didn’t want me she could have just left me…” sounds like an outright confession to me.
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    sounds like a “slip up” confession to me.
    Be back later all…goign to the chat.

  233. Ten, who knows. I did think the same thing. But then again, I’m in a minority here.

    I try to look at it all, did she give any clues, did he give any clues, stuff like that.

  234. If my memory serves me correctly, Scott Peterson was seeing Amber Fry whilst searchers were looking for his pregnant wife’s body, which Amber was, at first, unaware of. Once she found out his game, she contacted LE, and she actually egged him on and helped to “slime” him.

    I don’t think there were any revelations in the recordings, at least none that stand out in my mind, but they used her to back up the tapings. Put him in a very smarmy light, don’t you think? Told her he was a widower, but boy was he sucking it up big time so he could be with the love of his life, Amber!

    Maybe Ashley didn’t have LE looking in on her chats, but, in my mind’s eye, it’s no different now than when Scott Peterson was doing it, only the means; Scott blabbed on the phone, Drew blabs on the Internet.

    What’s the difference? Ashley has it all electronically saved.

    What do you think?

  235. I think that if he were doing it prior to Stacy disappearing than it would be comparable.

    I personally am not shocked one bit by his doings/internet chatting stuff with Ashley.

    He was a sleeze long before Kathleen and Stacy and will be one long after or until hes is no longer free to actively be one.

  236. I think your right about that. They do have it electronically. They would have to authenticate it some how.

    With Amber LE was taping it, and I believe there were time line trouble with him on the tape. Didn’t he say he was overseas or something like that?

    If LE was working with Ashley, then I would have no problem with it at all, afterall they are the professional, and would know how to coach her on getting stuff outta him.

    And just a question, as I don’t have a clue about this.

    Does LE have to have subpoenas to tape record the conversation that they are helping to coach and tape? And if they do, would they need that also in electronic communication?

  237. And it just dawned on me. If the ISP thought this, Ashley’s communication, was of worth to them, I think she would have stopped blogging by now. It’s been a few days now, plenty of time for them to get to her.

  238. teneleven – see, that’s one thing that always is in the back of my mind.

    He is an absolute known skirt chaser, undisputed. I am really having a hard time believing he was faithful to Stacy when, in fact, he was never faithful in his other relationships.

    If there was, that’s not exactly a great place to be for the woman. Nonetheless, either she went to LE or they found her, if there is “another woman.” Maybe he was chatting with Ashley before SP went missing, I don’t know, but I still think there may be a secret someone lurking out there. Who knows, but nothing about any of this surprises me.

    I really don’t think he started honoring the Seventh Commandment all of a sudden after he married Stacy, heh?

  239. I am simply amazed at these posts from Ashley

    amazing how some random person managed to either come across or find Drew on the world wide web…yet Drew claims he’s spent tons of money on investigators to search for Stacy and has come up with nothin!???

    hmmm? still total silence from dumb and dumber too…I bet there is some scrambling going on in Selig’s office!

  240. IMO If he did (start to honor the 7th Commandment) after marrying Stacy, I could only think of one reason why… he had to walk the line because he was worried about her knowing about what he did to KS .

    He is a skirt chaser extrodinaire. (Fac is that spelled right 😉

    He knew he would never land a young gorgeous girl like Stacy again and I think he was to busy keeping tabs on Stacy to find the time to try and land another youngin.

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