Your Thread – July 3

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168 thoughts on “Your Thread – July 3

  1. § 720 ILCS 135/1-2. Harassment through electronic communications

    Sec. 1-2. Harassment through electronic communications. (a) Harassment through electronic communications is the use of electronic communication for any of the following purposes:

    (1) Making any comment, request, suggestion or proposal which is obscene with an intent to offend;

    (2) Interrupting, with the intent to harass, the telephone service or the electronic communication service of any person;

    (3) Transmitting to any person, with the intent to harass and regardless of whether the communication is read in its entirety or at all, any file, document, or other communication which prevents that person from using his or her telephone service or electronic communications device;

    (3.1) Transmitting an electronic communication or knowingly inducing a person to transmit an electronic communication for the purpose of harassing another person who is under 13 years of age, regardless of whether the person under 13 years of age consents to the harassment, if the defendant is at least 16 years of age at the time of the commission of the offense;

    (4) Threatening injury to the person or to the property of the person to whom an electronic communication is directed or to any of his or her family or household members; or

    (5) Knowingly permitting any electronic communications device to be used for any of the purposes mentioned in this subsection (a).

    (b) As used in this Act:

    (1) “Electronic communication” means any transfer of signs, signals, writings, images, sounds, data or intelligence of any nature transmitted in whole or in part by a wire, radio, electromagnetic, photoelectric or photo-optical system.

    (2) “Family or household member” includes spouses, former spouses, parents, children, stepchildren and other persons related by blood or by present or prior marriage, persons who share or formerly shared a common dwelling, persons who have or allegedly share a blood relationship through a child, persons who have or have had a dating or engagement relationship, and persons with disabilities and their personal assistants. For purposes of this Act, neither a casual acquaintanceship nor ordinary fraternization between 2 individuals in business or social contexts shall be deemed to constitute a dating relationship

  2. cyberstalking, Harassment criminal offenses according to my attorney . And I’m building quite a nice file To turn over to law enforcement .

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  4. BigM1, I am sure many people feel the same way you do, there was some crazy crap going on at ashleys. I saw many false posts, or shall I say reconstructed posts. Yes bad stuff over there.

  5. 1# Mistake : posting my full name without getting my permission.

    2# Mistake posting my Full name Multiple times on various boards and blogs To taunt, Provoke, And otherwise Harass.

    3# Mistake Word press Publisher, administrators, moderators failed to act in a speedy way and allowed such activity to go on for days before deleting said posts.

  6. Morning all –

    Sgt. Burek lives in Western Illinois, at least that is where his post is, I should’t say lives. I believe its like the Quad Cities area.

    I don’t understand why the people feel the need to post names, towns etc. And I really do hope BigM seeks some legal advise to see if anything can be done.

    That Ashley’s site is just plain nuts.

  7. Didn’t I see a post last night from Amanda that says she “talked” to her, and said Basherette was taking a break from here? Wonder why.

  8. Morning all!

    Rescue, I don’t know why Bash isn’t posting, but bless her heart, she has a lot more on her plate than a lot of of us, and maybe blogging here isn’t as important as other things right now. I just hope it’s not because she’s too ill, or in the hospital.

  9. Yeah, I sure hope Basherette is doing okay too. I hope everyone is doing okay that comes here. Sometimes, it gets overwhelming, one way or another, and it’s hard to shake it off without a break, little or big.

    That’s just my humble opinion.

  10. Rescue, very well put.

    We may not see eye to eye on issues, but we can all be respectful of one another.

    I know I have to work on that. I do try though.

    These cases bring out too many emotions.

  11. Noway, I saw your post at Lavanda’s. You’ve got a very smart little girl there! Left a response for you also.

  12. Let, you are so right about this bringing out the emotions. It did to me initally, but I had never posted anywhere, and I just let ‘er rip in the beginning. Sometimes it was hard to keep my emotions intact when reading posts that I disagreed with, but it didn’t take long to see that people were trying to get that exact response from me, lol. So, some of us just learn to read and go on, or not read at all, if it’s a post by someone you’re not interested in reading, or on a blog that isn’t your cup of tea. Others want to be nasty and rude, but we can’t control how people feel or post, although we can ignore what they write, or try to respond in a civil way. However, civility for some seems next to impossible, unfortunately, and this case is really bringing out the worst of the worst.

  13. Well all time for me to call it a day. Have to get ready for the party.

    Happy 4th of July if I don’t see you all tomorrow.

  14. bigm1 // July 3, 2008 at 5:21 am

    1# Mistake : posting my full name without getting my permission.

    2# Mistake posting my Full name Multiple times on various boards and blogs To taunt, Provoke, And otherwise Harass.

    3# Mistake Word press Publisher, administrators, moderators failed to act in a speedy way and allowed such activity to go on for days before deleting said posts.
    __________________
    The posts I reported were gone within 2 hours. And that included the one with BigM’s name.

    I just don’t understand why people are getting so off base and posting personal information.

  15. I don’t think I ever saw any personal information of anyone’s posted here (but maybe I missed it). I did see reposts from other places.

    Now at Ashley’s it’s repost central.

  16. Yes, my daughter is pretty darn smart. 🙂 cfs, saw your PM and replied. I do have one “time” mistake in the message. 6 =9. 😀

  17. facs, that is the message that was copied from here. IMO someone saved the page and for some bizarre reason is posting all of our discussion on Ashley’s site.

    Why?

    🙄

  18. Hi everyone.

    I wanted to make a quick observation:

    At first I was thinking that I really believed “Ashley” was some random woman that DP met online. Now I am not so sure. If you look at the post from 6/30 – The 1st picture. The Yahoo Messenger list only has DP. No other friends. That is odd to me – So I am making a wild guess here, that this “ashley” ID was set up for one purpose.

    I’ll let y’all determine that purpose on your own. 😉

    If this has already been noted…. sorry.

  19. Noway – I’ve thought about it and I think that since Ashley has a link to this blog on her page, someone has assumed that ‘Ashley’ is someone who posts here. Maybe they think that reposting things from here over there is somehow ‘outing’ her? I don’t really get it, but maybe that’s the idea?

    Anyone can read here, so it’s not as if moving posts there is exposing anything. Everything we say here is already public.

  20. Thanks Facs!

    The same for the e-mail account. The only folder is “Drew”. Nothing in Spam, Drafts, Trash…etc….

  21. I hope there is GJ information when I get back. The Ashley stuff gives me a headache. I don’t care so much who she is or how she got Drew … just that she got him! 😉

  22. Hey Ashley is rockin!!!!!!!! You can bet LE has every email and chat Drew has had with her. If they didn’t have it before they had it the day she started blogging. They went straight to yahoo and aim with warrants.

    Think about this. A big part of LE’s case against drew is he killed for money. I believe is bragging and talking about money all the time will come back and bite him right in the ass.

    Ashley keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. iknoweverythinglol // July 3, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Hey Ashley is rockin!!!!!!!! You can bet LE has every email and chat Drew has had with her. If they didn’t have it before they had it the day she started blogging. They went straight to yahoo and aim with warrants.

    Think about this. A big part of LE’s case against drew is he killed for money. I believe is bragging and talking about money all the time will come back and bite him right in the ass.

    Ashley keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You’re most probably right Iknoweverything 😉

  24. rescueapet // July 3, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Didn’t I see a post last night from Amanda that says she “talked” to her, and said Basherette was taking a break from here? Wonder why.
    _____________________

    I did see a post, a couple of days ago from someone who had talked to Bash. That poster said Bash was fine and taking a break from posting.

  25. harleyjoey – It is quite possible that Ashley decided to delete the other names on her list so they would not appear in the screen shots. I know that I have a separate login account with gmail for my online friends versus family and friends. That way I can cut the account if something goes weird without having to notify my “in-person” friends.

  26. I think that screen shot she has of her list just shows one heading, wife killer, Drew is probably the only one she knows.

  27. You are so smart Iknoweverything. So it is not just a coinkydink that your name is youknoweverything 🙂

  28. harleyjoey // July 3, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Hi everyone.

    I wanted to make a quick observation:

    At first I was thinking that I really believed “Ashley” was some random woman that DP met online. Now I am not so sure. If you look at the post from 6/30 – The 1st picture. The Yahoo Messenger list only has DP. No other friends. That is odd to me – So I am making a wild guess here, that this “ashley” ID was set up for one purpose.

    I’ll let y’all determine that purpose on your own.

    If this has already been noted…. sorry.
    ___________________________

    That is a total setup.

    Ashley is a poster from this case, and has been on several blogs/forums.

    Bet you a dollar.

    Also— I never said Bash is taking a break.
    I mentioned that I had more recently talked to her, but I have not seen her log in today.

  29. Just a quick note here. For those of you who were interested in the “discovery” of something on the time zone from which Ashley may have been posting, I’ve figured out what it is they’re talking about. If you want to know, please email me at Lavanda’s site if you’re members there, and I’ll give you the information to look at for yourselves. It could be a typo on Drew’s part, and I don’t know for sure that it isn’t. You all can make your own conclusions if you’re interested.

  30. My take on Ashley………………

    I think “Ashley” is more than one person. The night before last I read the comments section and saw all the foul language, bad grammar, and attacks on individuals.

    Last night, with trepidation, I ventured into the comments section after her latest group of instant messages. The commentary by “Ashley” was far different than the previous night. The grammar and spelling were different, and little, if any, foul language.

    The more I read, the more I became convinced that there’s at least two posting under the Ashley name. There seems to be at least two different personalities.

    “Ashley” has linked the WordPress blog on her website, which may lead some to believe that she is a member here. I think many have made the mistake of thinking Ashley is affiliated with this site, when it may simply be a matter of her reading the blog and agreeing with some of the comments.

    One thing of interest at Ashley’s site. She stated yesterday that two more women are coming forward in the new few weeks with emails/PMs/instant messages they’ve received from Drew.

  31. Well, we knew that Drew was a baaaaad boy, huh? He is one of those poor souls that has never learned the lesson of “before you can love someone else or expect them to love you, you must first love yourself”.

  32. Molly, I believe she is a member here and has posted, but I won’t call her out, or rather who I believe she is. It’s irrelevant anyway. Anyone who wants can join here, and post under any name that want to. That doesn’t mean necessarily that they are posting ingonito. Some of us are not the fools people think we are.

  33. Geez, “haste makes waste” my grandmother was always fond of saying. 😀 Mavis Beacon, I really do need you this morning!

  34. cfs7360 // July 3, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Just a quick note here. For those of you who were interested in the “discovery” of something on the time zone from which Ashley may have been posting,
    __

    CFS – Why can’t you just say here? I don’t belong to that site you refer to – But curious minds want to know!!!! What is the BIG secret??????

  35. grandma210 // July 3, 2008 at 8:34 am

    duckyone // July 2, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    noway406 // July 2, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    I get no pills and no popcorn. WTF? I’m blowing this joint first chance I get!
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    I’ll break you out! This duck can fly, the more pills I have, the faster my wings flap. I can’t chew popcorn, my dentures will break. Can they put it in the blender for me?
    ___________

    AFLAC!
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    Grandma-I just saw this. hehe! It made me laugh.

    Oh my goodness, reading over at Ashley’s have become challenging for me too.

    Regarding names on the Internet. Unfortunately, there are rules but they are impossible to enforce unless there is harm first. If you have a forum/blog and it’s been released one time, then you can’t really go after any person. I am not agreeing with giving personal information out. I find it very disturbing.

    Has anyone seen Bash? I am really worried.

  36. It’s really no big secret Harley, and it’s out there in plain black and white for anyone to see if you look for it. But someone on here that mentioned it yesteday didn’t want it revealed for some reason. I don’t know the reason for that, but it’s easy to spot. Just go to July 1st and read the im’s. It’s there for all to see. No big deal. I just didn’t want to say on here what it was after the conversation last night.

  37. Oh, that? That’s just silly. Drew probably was just thinking that it’s still the nightof the 14th and not looking at a clock.

    I think that indicates nada.

  38. Ducky, Bash may be realizing there’s more to life than blogging about a case she has no control over. Like Amanda said, maybe she just need to step out in the sunshine and experience reality for awhile, or whatever her post said.

    After seeing how so many are letting this take over their lives and emotions, I think I’m about ready to give ita rest too. Just getting tired of all the cheap shots and meanness abounding if you know what I mean. Some people, even on here occasionally, are getting too emotional and out of control about the people involved in this mess. It just seems to be turning into a free for all for whatever ugliness anybody wants to exhibit. And the sad thing is, none of us can change what happened to these two women, or convict the guy that some of us think is responsible. But it’s just gotten to the point that some people are so obsessed with their opinions they don’t care what they say to anyone else, or how rude and vulgar they come across. My world is not like that in real life, but if it is for some of these hateful, rude people, then no wonder so many of the kids today are in trouble with the law and on drugs, and whatever else. It’s just a sad commentary on how this has gotten out of hand with posters, when it was already bad enough with the people actually involved in the case.

    Like I said, you can’t control what people feel or say, but you can excuse yourself from it, and get back to reality. The sad thing is, the ugliness I’m seeing everywhere is reality in the life of these people who choose to be that way. I, for one like my real life much better than what I see on these blogs, so I’m going to stake a step into the sunshine today as well, and visit with my precious mother. She doesn’t have much time left on this earth, and she’s certainly more important that who’s trying to outdo who in the ugly department. You all have a nice day and happy and safe fouth of July. 😀

  39. ducky1 – I think it would be hard to prove that you were damaged by someone putting your name out there, when you’ve used your full name as your screen name on some forums (and when I say ‘you’ I don’t mean you, ducky).

  40. Good Grief. I’m not one for beating around the bush – So… Are you talking about the one where Drew was gonna sign on the X and he put 3-14 – but is was actually after midnight (3-15)???

    If that is the case – Then I would say that alot of people may say a wrong date after midnight. I’m just not “getting” what this proves or what the big deal is.

    If that is not what you are talking about – then in the voice of Rachel Green when she could not see her baby on the ultrasound – “I still don’t see it” 😛

    I Give up…… bbl 🙂 😆

  41. HarleyJoey – I don’t know if that’s what other people are seeing but that’s the only indication I see. I just don’t see it as proof of anything except that Drew isn’t looking at a clock.

  42. Cfs-GREAT POST! Prayers to your Mom. Please don’t let the ugly drive you away. You are a good person, even if you are old 😉

    Facs-agree with you on proving harm over releasing names. Big M doesn’t stand a chance with his threats.

    In regards to the time stamp, I will agree to disagree on that one. Her screen said an hour ahead and it was the entire conversation. He signed it ________________14th. I could be wrong, but I’m putting my money (not too much) on Eastern Standard Time. The first thing that any “normal” person would do is look at the date on their computer 😉

  43. harleyjoey // July 3, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Good Grief. I’m not one for beating around the bush – So… Are you talking about the one where Drew was gonna sign on the X and he put 3-14 – but is was actually after midnight (3-15)???

    If that is the case – Then I would say that alot of people may say a wrong date after midnight. I’m just not “getting” what this proves or what the big deal is.

    If that is not what you are talking about – then in the voice of Rachel Green when she could not see her baby on the ultrasound – “I still don’t see it”

    I Give up…… bbl
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    cfs7360 // July 3, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Just a quick note here. For those of you who were interested in the “discovery” of something on the time zone from which Ashley may have been posting, I’ve figured out what it is they’re talking about. If you want to know, please email me at Lavanda’s site if you’re members there, and I’ll give you the information to look at for yourselves. It could be a typo on Drew’s part, and I don’t know for sure that it isn’t. You all can make your own conclusions if you’re interested.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    Harley, that’s what I said. I could have been a typo on Drew’s part.

    This is my last post of the say. Happy 4th!! 😀

  44. Happy 4th, and 3rd for that matter.

    Can I just say how it confuses me when Chicago does fireworks a day early? I always think that I’m a day off and that I somehow missed the holiday.

  45. IMO, there is no way that Drew is looking at the 15th being all over his IM’s and typing the 14th.

    Have a great 3rd and 4th everyone! Stay safe!

    Seeing those hostages FREE makes me very happy. Some good news for once.

  46. IMO Drew was too drunk to realize that after midnight the date changes. And I do not see any time difference between his posts and hers other than the seconds it would take to type the message.

    If you are basing “she is on the east coast!” on this one bit of information, I’d have to disagree. A good lawyer could get that thrown out of court in a second; heck, even JB could get it thrown out!

    And I don’t think anyone got a *warrant* for yahoo and aim … maybe a subpoena of the records? 😉

    Dang about no grand jury but I can deal with it.

  47. Noway – CFS says to go look at July 1 “im’s.” Does she mean posts here from 7/1? She’s apparently off now, and I wasn’t here this afternoon, and none of this is “clicking” with me.

    Help!

  48. Rescue, look at Ashley’s blog post from July 1. One of the screen captures of an IM conversation has Drew ‘signing’ something and dating it 3/14 when the time stamp on the IM says 3/15. It’s at 12:45 am.

  49. Rescue, she PMd me and told me what to look at. It’s when Ashley had something for Drew to sign, and made a little signature block (July 1 post I think).

    Anyway, Drew says something like “signed” and types the date as 3-14 when all their posts were actually after midnight so it was really 3-15.

    IMO that is not proof Ashley is on the east coast.

  50. Anonymous said…
    And now the admin at SYM (where joel posts) wants to threaten people with legal action for reposting his ‘herb’ and ‘stash’ posts.

    Isn’t that like going to the cops because someone stole your pot?

    July 3, 2008 2:15 PM

  51. Oh, I see, CFS was talking about the time difference issue. For a minute there, I thought she also pretty much figured out who Ashley is also.

    Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

  52. iknoweverythinglol // July 3, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Anonymous said…
    And now the admin at SYM (where joel posts) wants to threaten people with legal action for reposting his ‘herb’ and ’stash’ posts
    ********************

    Isn’t Joel Brodsky, one of his members, an attorney?

  53. IMO Drew was too drunk to realize that after midnight the date changes. And I do not see any time difference between his posts and hers other than the seconds it would take to type the message.
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    Too drunk. hehe Could be. I still say that she’s in the next state over, not on the east coast. If you have ever IM’d anyone in a different time zone, then your computer says one time and their computer says the other time. I’ve spoken to my friends in another time zone and I keep saying one day and they refer to the other because it’s RIGHT in front of you at all times. Just something to thing about. We would only know the “truth” if Drew had his computers taken now. lol I would love to see him loose another laptop over his trolling for women. Why wouldn’t Ashley go to LE yesterday? She says 2 more Internet girlfriends. The guy has no conscience. JMO

  54. 😀

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #525 Today at 1:32pm »

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    The idiot author Matthew Phelps went on http://www.crimerant.com to make some fake poll to try to disrespect me by comparing me to Jonny Cochran and Robert Kardashian, both who are dead. Problem is that the so called true crime author mispelled Cochran’s name and added an extra “e” to the end of Cochran’s name. The idiot can’t even spell the name of the most famous lawyer of the last decade. And he calls himself a crime writer. What a joke he is.

  55. Rescue, it’s a post from SYM under the username Joel Brodsky, so I can only believe it’s as real as all the others.

    The next two posts from me are my response to Joel. Had a little problem and posted before I’d copied the whole thing. 🙂

  56. One quick thing….Mother isn’t here yet. It is Johnnie Cochran, not Jonny Cochran, Mr. Brodsky. Wonder why you feel the need to call someone an idiot because they can’t spell Mr. Cochran’s LAST name correctly?

    See what I’m talking about folks? Unbelievable. Ugly is as ugly does.

  57. lol, cfs, don’t know what happened to my next post … oh … link.

    http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Cochran

  58. noway
    Member

    member is offline

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    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #531 Today at 2:03pm »

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    Is this really Joel A. Brodsky, Drew Peterson’s attorney who is posting all this “carp” about Matt Phelps?

    Sue if him you have cause, otherwise just let it go! You are making a fool of yourself. What is with the self-destructive behavior? Are you trying to get disbarred?

    IMO

  59. Noway, are YOU trying to get disbarred from SYM? Dont’ you realize you aren’t allowed to disagree there? Damn!

  60. facs, you’re probably right but WTH is he thinking?

    I just can’t imagine a professional lawyer saying those things online. It boggles my mind. Seriously.

    It flabbergasts me that he would act this way, and there must be a reason … although if he thinks Johnnie is the most famous lawyer of the last decade, insanity could be his plea. 🙂

  61. He didn’t have time to work on Drew’s defense on the weapons charge because he was involved in a pissing match with an author and the folks who run Crimerant?

    🙄

  62. Does he really think that poll is fake? It’s funny and it’s satire, but it’s not fake.

    He needs to wake up and see that most people think he is a boob.

  63. Twinkies and ho ho upcakes are the topics today on Ms. Ashley’s blog… LOL!! Alot of people saying MEOW, and telling others how fat and disgusting they all are…

    I thought youd all like a laugh… Whats even more funny is that people are trying to talk sense to them…

  64. I see more of that ‘get a life’ kind of thing being posted by people who of course are, themselves, posting non-stop on the Internet.

    That always makes me giggle.

  65. JB showing us how full of himself he is on LegalBlog today (see his comment at bottom):

    “Nicholas Sheley Charged With Killing Ronald Randall and Suspected of Killing a Total of Eight People? -by J.T.

    Nicholas Sheley, 28, is in my observation, an animal, if the allegations against him are true. Sheley is accused of beating eight people to death in Missouri and Illinois. Today he appeared in Madison County court in Edwardsville, Illinois. Nicholas Sheley appeared appropriately dressed in what appeared to be a tailor fitted orange jail jumpsuit. Those getting a glimpse of Sheley thought that it was like he was made for his clothing. ”

    Joel A. Brodsky said…
    What is the evidence agaisnt this guy? Did anyone witness the crimes? Is there any physical evidence? If the answer is yes to the last two questions, then I hope he doesn’t call me, I have enough on my plate right now.

  66. Joel A. Brodsky said…
    What is the evidence agaisnt this guy? Did anyone witness the crimes? Is there any physical evidence? If the answer is yes to the last two questions, then I hope he doesn’t call me, I have enough on my plate right now.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    NICE BRODSKY!! You dont get me to excited, jst trying to do your job is all… LOL!! TRYING is the key word here!!

  67. So…he appears to be saying that if he actually had to do a defense attorney’s job he wouldn’t want it.

    Way to go, Joel!

  68. noway406 // July 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Rescue, she PMd me and told me what to look at. It’s when Ashley had something for Drew to sign, and made a little signature block (July 1 post I think).

    Anyway, Drew says something like “signed” and types the date as 3-14 when all their posts were actually after midnight so it was really 3-15.

    IMO that is not proof Ashley is on the east coast.
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    I’m just catching up here, but this is the way I see it.

    Drew’s timestamp on his IM screen was dated 3/14/2008 because he is in Central time. So IMO that is why he filled in the blank as 3-14-08. The date 3/14/08 was on every IM message, so he couldn’t miss it, it was all over his screen at the time.

    The screenshot you see on Ashley’s blog has the dates on ALL IM messages for both people as 3/15/2008 because she is in EST zone. It is a screenshot of HER screen, so of course all dates would be 1 hour ahead of Drew’s because he is in Central time zone.

    All JMHO of course, but that’s how I see it. 😉

  69. iknoweverythinglol // July 3, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Anonymous said…
    And now the admin at SYM (where joel posts) wants to threaten people with legal action for reposting his ‘herb’ and ’stash’ posts.

    Isn’t that like going to the cops because someone stole your pot?

    July 3, 2008 2:15 PM
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    Hahahaha! Is that what he is screaming about? OMG, why doesn’t he just invite the police over and show them his stash instead of hiring a lawyer to help convict himself of possession then?

    Damn funny stuff IMO! 🙂

  70. Pavlov’s – don’t you think it’s possible that Drew was still thinking of it as the night of the 14th?

    I believe that what Ashley has screen capped for us is her Yahoo IM history – not the actual chat interface. In any case, we can’t possibly know what Drew was looking at…or even if the clock on his computer was set correctly, whether or not he’d been drinking…etc.

    IMO, it doesn’t prove anything. For some reason I’m inclined to believe her when she says she lives in Southern Illinois. And even if she isn’t, meh – so what?

  71. facsmiley // July 3, 2008 at 4:29 pm
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    Unless he was blind drunk he saw it, how could you miss it when it’s plastered all over your screen? Unless he was falling down drunk, he saw it. I don’t see how even DP could be stupid enough to miss the date 20 times on his monitor screen. He is pretty stupid in that respect however. He cannot spell, and his grammar sucks.

    Oh well, it doesn’t matter to me. Just trying to help with the explanation, that’s all.

  72. Noway – I am always appreciative of your posting JB’s comments here from SYM. I am just so flabbergasted that he is so unprofessional, still, after all that’s been said and done. I mean, the last week has been a whirlwind. Imagine, just imagine, if Brodsky had a different way of handling Peterson and his escapades, starting from the very beginning. You know, the nut job gone wild, but then comes along the cool, professional, calm and thought provoking attorney.

    Noooooooooooooo, instead we get another of the same. In fact, Brodsky does more name calling than Peterson, and he’s supposed to be the one telling his client to shut up. Maybe the client should tell the attorney to shut up.

    Oh, the drama of this all.

  73. pavlovsdogs // July 3, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Unless he was blind drunk he saw it, how could you miss it when it’s plastered all over your screen? Unless he was falling down drunk, he saw it. I don’t see how even DP could be stupid enough to miss the date 20 times on his monitor screen.
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    That’s why I pointed out that the screen caps are what Ashley sees in her Yahoo history, which is not the same as her chat interface, and it’s ceratainly not what Drew was seeing.

    For instance, my IM screen does not show the date at each post – only the time.

    He may not have seen the date at all, much less over and over, and that was my point. But like I said, I don’t think it’s too important either way.

  74. rescueapet // July 3, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Brodsky does more name calling than Peterson, and he’s supposed to be the one telling his client to shut up. Maybe the client should tell the attorney to shut up.
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    I wonder how Odeh is feeling about all of this? She was the one who stated that they ought to shut up a long time ago.

  75. facsmiley // July 3, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Joel A. Brodsky said…
    What is the evidence agaisnt this guy? Did anyone witness the crimes? Is there any physical evidence? If the answer is yes to the last two questions, then I hope he doesn’t call me, I have enough on my plate right now.

    LMAO! Spellcheck Brodsky! On top of that it’s just an ignorant post. Who said this serial killer was dumb enough to want to hire Joel Brodsky, hahaha! Brodsky can’t handle the ONE client he has.

    Brodsky was criticizing someone for not spelling Johnnie Cochran’s last name right, when he could not even spell the 1st name right, lol! Jonny LMAO… come on Brodsky, shut up already. 🙂

  76. 1. It could have been 3/14 when they started talking.

    2. If she is using a proxy out of the East Coast, she would show a different time.

    3. Most logical, her IP company could have been pinging somewhere not local. I.E, I live in IL, sometimes my IP will show GA. If she has a satellite connection, this could happen.

    Apologizing in advance for spelling errors. Lost without spell check.

  77. Let me see if I am following this correctly, because I’m not going to utter another word about it after this.

    Is is that the time difference makes Ashley out to be a liar? She’s being called out as being on Eastern time when, in fact, she’s saying she’s in Illinois, which is Central time.

    There’s been a couple of explanations. Here’s where I’m confused. Is she a liar about where she lives, or is she a total, complete liar because this proves she screwed up and made this all up? See, because I’m so in the dark as to what this time difference really means!!!!

    I’m just not getting this. No wonder I stay out of it. I don’t see what relevance it has to what HE wrote in his own words.

    I guess I’m just saying that I don’t think this looks very good for his image, since he hired and paid a PR man to rehabilitate him. Does it prove him to be a murderer – well, no, not in my mind. But, putting this side-by-side with his Mr. Mom, I’m so nice and easy-going image that Selig tried to build up, I’m going with the sleazey, pig image.

  78. giveitarest // July 3, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    1. It could have been 3/14 when they started talking.

    2. If she is using a proxy out of the East Coast, she would show a different time.

    3. Most logical, her IP company could have been pinging somewhere not local. I.E, I live in IL, sometimes my IP will show GA. If she has a satellite connection, this could happen.

    Apologizing in advance for spelling errors. Lost without spell check.
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    Good post, great ideas. I hadn’t thought about a Proxy.

    Don’t worry about spelling, I only like to criticize Brodsky for it because he is supposed to be professional, and he is such a numskull!

    Hahaha, I look it up to be sure of the spelling! Here’s what I got:

    numskull

    Main Entry: num·skull
    Variant(s): or numb·skull \ˈnəm-ˌskəl\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: numb + skull
    Date: 1717
    1 : a thick or muddled head
    2 : a dull or stupid person : dunce

  79. pavlovsdogs // July 3, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Hahaha, I look it up to be sure of the spelling! Here’s what I got:

    numskull

    Main Entry: num·skull
    Variant(s): or numb·skull \ˈnəm-ˌskəl\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: numb + skull
    Date: 1717
    1 : a thick or muddled head
    2 : a dull or stupid person : dunce
    **************************************

    LOL

  80. facsmiley // July 3, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    pavlovsdogs // July 3, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Hahaha, I look it up to be sure of the spelling! Here’s what I got:

    numskull

    Main Entry: num·skull
    Variant(s): or numb·skull \ˈnəm-ˌskəl\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: numb + skull
    Date: 1717
    1 : a thick or muddled head
    2 : a dull or stupid person : dunce
    **************************************

    LOL
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    Haha! I thought of a third entry for the dictionary:

    3 : See also – Joel A. Brodsky and/or Drew W. Peterson

  81. Where did everyone go? No Grand Jury boo! I haven’t been online in days and you all disappear. It took me all afternoon to read at Trashy’s place, sort of wish I hadn’t now. I think I wiil rely on you guys to tell me if there was anything new.

  82. giveitarest // July 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Why are they talking about people here? I don’t get it? Did I miss something?
    *********************************

    Two theories:

    1. Ashley links to us on her blog.
    2. Some people think she is one of us.

  83. hi, everyone … giving the no capitalization and no punctuation a try

    it is much easier

    will not care about spelling either

    😀

  84. it is hard for me to not capitalize and punctuate but ill give it more time

    if i have three in a row im going off to read

  85. I wonder………….When will we “Hear” from the other two “Online Affairs” of DP’s…………..

  86. Coud DP be talking about the Hosey book when ‘he says “it’s being written as we speak”? I think JB denied that Drew had a book deal, meaning that Drew was not writing one. But then Drew did try to get Phelps to ghost write one for him and though that fell through, Phelps says the Drew has found another author so…

    Dunno.

  87. Facsmiley – I don’t think so. I remember hearing sometime come out at one time or another about him writing a book about his “other” life, word for word almost as what’s in Ashley’s chat. Just can’t place when and where that was.

    Funny, who is it that comes on here all the time and calls Roy “Elroy?” Little bits and pieces coming out now that sound familiar.

  88. Facs, that’s what I thought … that it was Joe Hosey’s book and that Drew was just trying to make himself seem important.

  89. Rescue – the misnomer seems to be commonplace with Drew and Brodsky both. I think some people picked it up from Brodsky. I mean, if Drew and Joel are mocking people it must be the in thing to do! 😉

  90. lol … you want to know who says Elroy and BigM wants to know who says Drewcifer or Drew-cifer I guess is how she says it (Ashley does).

    We just can’t believe that she is not connected to some poster we have posted with, can we?

    😀

  91. little known fact..”Johnnie” Cochran signed his autographs “JOHNNY” not with an “ie”

    I know because I have it!

    if that is all Brodsky has is spelling errors to validate his rant then Lord help him if he ends up defending Peterson…besides…it’s the EDITORS job to publish correct spelling NOT the authors!!!

    whattadouche!

  92. Joel posted some replies (not to anything I said but to two posters and since I’m not sure they post here, I’ve removed their names).

    joelbrodsky
    Member

    Re: Q&A Joel Brodsky
    « Reply #542 Today at 6:10pm »

    {Poster 1}: In answer to your question, (put twice) we never asked Phelps to trash anyone. We talked very little about the content of any potential book. It was mostly buisness arrangments and a the structure of any potential deal. Thats why I am so pissed off, because Phelps makes it seem like we were discussing the cases or what angle we wanted the book to take, which is untrue, (because no author will give up editorial control of his book unless he is a ghost writer), when we barely touched on that subject matter.

    {Poster 2}: Hosey’s book has a Sept. 28 release date, and I don’t think it has even gone to press yet. (If it had there would be reviews available, and there are none). Also, it was no million dollar deal that for sure.

  93. Thx noway!

    {Poster 1}: …because no author will give up editorial control of his book unless he is a ghost writer…
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    Which Brodsky learned I’m sure after they made this proposal to Phelps and he told them no freakin’ way.

    {Poster 2}: Hosey’s book has a Sept. 28 release date, and I don’t think it has even gone to press yet. (If it had there would be reviews available, and there are none). Also, it was no million dollar deal that for sure.
    **********************************
    Brodsky knows NOTHING about Hosey’s book deal besides the release date (which you can see at Amazon). Nice job pretending he does, though.

  94. how would he know how much the deal was???

    did Hosey call him up and confirm this information with him?

    so desperate!

    as I wrote in my rant on crimearant.com Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures!

    how does this man actually think he has a career once this is over?????? mind boggling!

  95. Thank you, Noway.

    He sure has calmed down somewhat from his prior rants about Phelps.

    However, wouldn’t it just have been wiser for him to say he’s turned the matter over to the Attorney General of CT for handling and just drop it.

    I sure hope someone asks him to post the letter he sent off to the AG of CT, and the response he gets. Now, that would be interesting.

    What he hasn’t posted about are any legal filings he ranted about. I know it was hard to see that in-between all of his name calling, but he did make a lot of accusations, didn’t he?

  96. “Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures”

    In the wake of Matt Phelps interview and “startling” revelation that Drew and his team plan to trash Kathleen and Stacy (BIG surprise there! NOT! That’s all they’ve been doing since the beginning) There is now a blog by a mysterious “Ashley” regarding her correspondence with Drew W.”Lady Killer” Peterson via the internet, which has been confirmed by Joel Brodsky with the defense of “it’s not ‘dating’ to flirt with someone on the internet” and “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” Well if they weren’t dating Mr. Brodsky why oh why was your client talking “marriage”?? And if their correspondence doesn’t prove some type of intimate relationship of the mind then I guess text messages to Stacy’s cell phone doesn’t prove infidelity?! It is very clear to me (and most anyone with at least ONE functioning brain cell) that Mr. Peterson is of no value in his own pathetic world unless he has a female on his arm and that “Desperate times call for desperate measures” “Poor Pitiful Drew” so misunderstood, so lonely, so unlucky in love (and crime) that he must pursue and capture any young woman to validate his “manhood” it doesn’t matter if she has “issues” he likes them with issues, much easier to control that way. It doesn’t matter if he ever has met them face to face, he will tug on that “EARLOBE OF LOVE” on National TV to further convince his interest that his “heart belongs to them” In the meantime while he’s discussing how “in love” he is with his missing and presumed dead wife he shops around for book deals while contemplating his next “zinger” to show he’s just a “wild and crazy guy” Does he not understand that women have hormones? Obviously not, he like em’ young, young and needy, young and wanting children, ooops be careful there Pal, once they have one or two everything changes and they become “snotty” and unappreciative (Or end up dead and/or missing). You may want to consider a woman who is done cycling or procreating, aw but that’s no fun is it? Most women who are done with those things actually have lived, have minds and can see through your “Ballad of BS.”

    While “TEAM Peterson” contemplates their next move, their next “conquest” (because let’s face it…they ALL have a different agenda as well) a young mother is unaccounted for and seemingly disappeared off the face of the Earth, 4 children are without 2 mothers because the elder of those mother’s lies in her grave, the victim of a homicide, never again to be seen by her children, to experience the joys of watching her son’s grow into men, a woman who was murdered possibly by the named “Suspect” in her successors disappearance, THE FATHER of those 4 children! Some say that “makes for good TV” or maybe even a possible book deal? Mr. Brodsky has found himself in a precarious position. Defend a man who represents himself as a smarmy, over the hill, gigolo with a penchant for “hot chicks” while seemingly being desperate for his own 15 minutes of fame he stutters and stumbles to keep up, as he is publicly ridiculed on nearly every forum and board online, he pontificates case law and ranting outbursts on one particular blog on this case, Mr Phelps has got Mr. Brodsky’s fur riled and has him positioning himself for his own “Desperate times call for desperate measures” I guess if you can’t beat em’ it’s best to whine, moan, complain and point the finger elsewhere??? Playing “editor” over spelling mistakes and regressing to that of a 5 year old in calling names, most 5 year olds I know are more mature. Does he defend Drew Peterson because he believes in his innocence? It doesn’t matter, he’s not paid to believe in his client, he’s paid to spin whenever necessary and this man is currently stuck on a merry-go-round. How will he ever get his book deal? or his exposure on television legal panels if he should ever dispute his representation of Bolingbrook’s NUMBER 1 Suspect? As it seems that women fuel Drew Peterson’s drive, libido and personality, it seems that drama, controversy and an innate blindness fuels Joel Brodsky’s drive for his 15 minutes of fame…aww Birds of a Feather….

    In the months since this case gained National attention there has been several tons of mud slung , most of which by the Suspect and his ahem! “Representation” If you’re not “with them” you’re “crazy” “drug addicted” “a drunk” “hormonal” “fame seeking” “money mongering” or a “liar” and are subject to their finger pointing, name calling, trash talking rants, so neigh sayers beware!

    Because as most of us do know….

    “Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures”

  97. if they call their book “Sinister Sells”

    I’ll call mine the above!!!

    just kidding…I’m not writing no book!!!!

    even though I always end up writing one when I post…lol

    people are NOT as stupid as these two want others to believe! Seriously…I get on a subject and my mind just races…COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC!!!! Do either of them not have it????

    because it seems most of us do!!!!

    they are scrambling right now! lol…and I love every minute of it…after this Ashley is done publicly humiliating him he’ll be hard pressed to even step out of his house…he’s coming off as such a pathetic excuse more than he was before!

    he enjoys his rum from a bottle and his wine from a BOX!!!???? wtf???

    lmao!!!

  98. well that man personally spelled it JOHNNY!

    but I guess JOHNNIE was his “stage spelling”???

    how pathetic is Brodsky???? that now he complains about spelling errors…yeah Phelps is a writer…but Brodksy is a LAWYER and can’t spell for nothin!

    he CONSTANTLY makes spelling errorsm, not to mention grammatical errors and totally comes off looking like a 5th grade drop out!!!!

    gah!!!!!!

  99. noway406 // July 3, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    lol … you want to know who says Elroy and BigM wants to know who says Drewcifer or Drew-cifer I guess is how she says it (Ashley does).

    We just can’t believe that she is not connected to some poster we have posted with, can we?
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    NOWAY,

    people on the old FSP site posted like that , not sure if it was sonia, julie in cal. or one of the others that would normaly post with us in some of the threads …. I think in the general discussion part from that site …. some stick out whom would say that … but ya know on tip of tongue ya know the names… but i remember seeing that all the time whom would say that , both of those sayings…

  100. lug, my point was exactly that … lots of people use Elroy (and Ashley may have just been copying Drew) and lots of people use Drewcifer.

    Knowing who uses those phrases isn’t exactly going to narrow things down as far as who Ashley is. 😉

  101. Until I see more, I’m going to believe she is who she says she is. A 29 year old web designer from southern Illinois.

    And of course, I want to see the posts from the other 2 woman. My guess is that one or both of them was the ‘regular poster’ on FSP or WordPress. 😉

  102. Been trying to remember where I first heard DP talk “book deals.” Found it.

    Drew Peterson Hires a Publicist, May Sell His Story

    Monday , January 14, 2008

    AP

    BOLINGBROOK, Ill. —
    A former police officer named a suspect in his wife’s disappearance said he’s hired a publicist and isn’t talking about his days on the force because he could soon be getting paid to tell his story.

    Drew Peterson has frequently talked to the media since his wife, Stacy, disappeared in October 2007. But he told the Chicago Sun-Times that his many years as an officer and sergeant in the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook are now off limits for questioning.

    He can’t give away such information for free when he has people willing to pay for his story, he said.

    Peterson would be happy to talk about his police career with approval from a Florida publicist he’s hired, he said.

    But the publicist told the Sun-Times that Peterson can’t talk about those days because there’s a deal in the works for someone else to tell the story.

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