Your Thread – July 4

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329 thoughts on “Your Thread – July 4

  1. P.S.
    Dearheart
    would love to see that rant published in a newspaper…..
    Heck…send it to Dan Abrams

  2. Happy 4th of July to all from this nostalgic expat. Business as usual here, but a red, white and blue decorated cake is on the menu.

    ******* (fireworks)

  3. Happy Fourth to all and especially to those who were released as hostages in Columbia. Prayers that they are able to reuinite and carry forward in life with love, passion and happiness even better than when they were taken from their loved ones. What a wonderful way to celebrate Independece Day! We all should remember the real reason today is special. Those that were held captive is a clear reminder. Hugs to all and thank God we are all FREE.

  4. On to the Ashley thread? Here is my thoughts…and I’m willing to bet money on this:
    I don’t think Ashley is a woman. I think it’s a guy. Hence why the constant avoidance in the PMs to talk to Drew over the phone? I don’t doubt it comes out to be Rick Mims. Especially when the comments were posted by “ashley” about…what do you think of Rick Mims?………….my money is it’s Rick Mims. He knew Drew’s email addy from the get-to too.

  5. Because I posted my thoughts that Rick Mim’s could possibly be “Ashley”…I decided to retract it. Here is why. This is what I posted to Ashley in her blag-rag in response to her post telling me she need not apologize for her statement was intended to call a poster “retarded” and was not making fun of those mentally challenged.

    Lavanda Dolce said…
    Sorry, Ashely…but you do owe an apology. You were not calling a poster retarded. You made a statement that even if one wins in the special olympics…they’re still retarded.

    You obviously have no idea whatsoever of the blessings in life that you have that enable you to see, hear, talk and think. That is why I say “shame on you”. For taking advantages of the gifts that God gave you and further evidence of your lack of class and personality is the mere fact that you do not believe you need to apologize.

    Just remember…life is short. What you may have in life right now can be wiped out in a flash of an illness and personally anyone that high-fives you KNOWING you have total disregard for those that have disabilities is sad.

    One last note. I know many mentally challenged people who have much more personality, heart and compassion than what you’ve exhibited here.

    So you may not be Rick Mim’s…and I took a shot in the dark…I also believe you’re not Rick Mim’s because I believe he would have had no problem stepping up to the plate and admitting the statement against those with disabilities was wrong…so for that, I apologize to Rick Mim’s to compare him to someone like you who obviously has more mental deficits than those born with challenging IQ’s.

    Now I believe I need to help my 18 year old autistic son with his breakfast. You see, he doesn’t have “time knowledge”. He’s about to put a fish dinner in for breakfast.

    Again, shame on you for not apologizing and realizing the good gifts God gave you and not having a care in the world to retract a statement that hurts many mothers and fathers across the country who live for the day that perhaps their beautiful children could be accepted and live a life free of ridicule.

    Perhaps you should view this video…maybe you may find some inspiration.

    July 4, 2008 8:41 AM

  6. WTG, Lavanda! Great post and you said it with diplomacy, you were not rude, but you made your point! God Bless You!

  7. Whoever pops in here today – Happy July 4th to everyone! I hope you all have a fun-filled, safe, patriotic holiday. The subject of my avatar is not enjoying it, unfortunately. Not a good day for pets!

    Take care all.

  8. Same wishes from me too…
    Please be safe, and watch out for drunk drivers.
    Personally, we are not going ANYWHERE…staying home in the woods…
    Today is a bittersweet holiday, as my aunt passed away ten years ago from colon,lung, and liver cancer. She loved fireworks tho, so we try to set off a few in her memory.

    Goddess Bless everyone.
    Swampy

  9. Hey, Facsmiley – I see that Ashley appreciates reading here, you being one of the reasons. We appreciate reading your posts too!!!!!!!

    Happy 4th, Facsmiley!!!!

  10. Happy Fourth to all of you!

    Lavanda, thanks for that video. It was inspirational!

    To military personnel everywhere but especially in Afghanistan this 4th 🙂 … thank you for what you do!

  11. Happy Fourth of July everyone!

    Lavanda………….excellent post! I agree with all that you stated to “Ashley.” I’ve been involved in special education and the Special Olympics for many years and the children in these programs need encouragement and respect as they struggle to learn and try to achieve.

  12. Drew says there is a book being written right now on that chat with Ashley.

    I bet LE is on that big time. Imagine getting ahold of that and all of drew’s statements and notes of the author’s.

    I wonder how many book deals he has out there?

    Dang Ashley Rocks!!

  13. Well said, Lavandadolce. And also you, Mollymcgee.

    Some ignorance is just that…..no experience with everything life throws at you. Sometimes it takes getting a little beat up by life before one develops empathy for others.

    Happy Fourth of July everyone!

  14. Happy Fourth of July, all….rocknrescue, sorry about the sadness you are feeling for the loss of your aunt and I’m sure every special firework will have her smiling up there as she knows the love you feel with each that you’ll view.

    Take care and have a great time regardless if you’re going out , or not.

  15. Oooooooo, I would love for it to be a Happy Fourth of July, but our poor pet is shaking like a leaf. He looks out the door, up at the sky, trying to see what he’s hearing.

  16. Happy 4th people.
    I hope having a difference of opinion with most of you about wordage and being political correct does not upset anyone. I understand why many of you are sensitive about some words. I know people can be very mean and hateful to others for many reasons. I deal with the public and have learned to let things go in one ear and out the other in most cases and would be upset if anyone used that word about anyone who is actually mentally challenged. I know most of you don’t agree with me when I say that word is acceptable to describe a “normal” person acting stupidly or dumb. Now I don’t want to get involved in a discussion about the words “stupid” or “dumb”, because those words were also used to describe mentally challenged people years ago. It isn’t JUST the “R” word but there are many words that people “have” to avoid using to keep from offending others. That is why I have an issue with the idea of being politically correct, who decides what is right and what is wrong? And what day does that rule go into effect? It’s OK to call someone old if you mean it as an accomplishment, but bad if you mean it as a derogatory remark. Most models would love to be called skinny, but if you say that to a cancer patient your dammed.
    Just please try to understand that the majority of the public would never be comfortable with using the “r” word to describe anyone who is mentally handicapped/challenged. I have been pleased by the actions of my regular customers towards my “special” customers over the years. I know there is a stigma associated with many words in our language. Just know that the word does not always mean the same thing to everyone.
    My daughter and my Aunt had a huge argument because my aunt used the word “mongoloid” to describe someone with downs syndrome. My aunt could not understand why my daughter was so upset, my daughter couldn’t understand why my aunt would EVER use that word. I had to explain to both of them separately why, and why they shouldn’t be upset with the other. The word had been used to describe a birth defect years ago and had no negative meaning when my aunt actually cared for a patient with downs syndrome. Well in todays world that is now a ‘bad” word. Same way for the word “negro”, that used to be the correct way to describe what is now “african-american” or “black”, now many elderly people are just wrong and they don’t even know it!
    My heart goes out to all who have challenges in their lives, I hope you don’t think my acceptance of these words usages means it would be acceptable for them to be used in the WRONG way.
    Anyway, my brain is all worded out now.
    I wish you all a great weekend, with happy family times.

  17. GOOD MORN lady’s and gents teehee.

    glad everyone had a good 4th..

    but wow I missed alot. trying to keep up with all of you ..
    so what is ashley up to this am ??? anyone want to clue me in lol

  18. I have been been informed that someone is giving me credit for some posts on Ashley’s site. For the record, I have not, and do not post on that site. My apologies to whomever is being accused of posting as CFS. To the ones who are accusing…..just goes to show you don’t know as much as you think you do.

  19. cfs, looks like a lot of us were getting credit for posts we didn’t make … and no credit for the posts they posted from here that we *did* make.

    😀

  20. Morning All –

    Hope everyone had a great, and safe 4th of July. We had a nice group for the *roof top* party we have every year, great view of the fireworks, and a bathroom right down a flight of stairs…lol. It was so cold though, I couldn’t beleive I was sitting outside with a coat and blanket.

    I haven’t even peeked at Ashley, have I missed anything earth shattering?

  21. It’s a little hard to dig through the crap, Let.

    But she hadn’t posted anything new, and that’s really the point of the blog, I think.

    Ashley said…
    WOW , what happened here all day & last night while I was gone for the 4th ? I will Be back in a Lil bit but I’m thinking either I need to see if a few people want to come on board to help mederate this site during the day when i’m not around or maybe make this an invite only site ? or just ban Ips ? or just go to a more secure forum ? I dunno – be back in a few ..

    July 5, 2008 10:09 AM

    She also said she was getting another post together. 😀

  22. Ashley said…
    I’m thinking I’m going to move this site to smf forum , I’m not for sure yet but I like the lay out and the control that you can have over it is amazing , this blog were on now has lots of features also but not like smf forum , I never thought this would have so many hits or people otherwise i would have chose a different site to host on ..

    July 5, 2008 10:38 AM
    _________________
    Not a bad idea.

  23. Holy Moly, I just peeked over there, and it’s completely insane.

    No walk of the pm’s, Stacy, Kathleen etc missing. Mostly personal attacks.

  24. I don’t know whether she went to the authorities or not.

    She made a comment that yes, she said she was busy and didn’t get there the day she said she would but she wasn’t busy today (don’t know when that was and have no desire to go find it).

    If she is counting on Drew not saving any of her stuff … my guess is Joel will try to get records subpoenaed .

  25. Say, Let, you’re not Ashley are ya? Would make things a lot easier if you were! I could just ask questions here while the drama unfolds over there!

    😉

  26. LOL…..I’m far from Ashley…..LOL.

    I don’t have the time and patience to play the game she is playing.

    I did notice she is answering very few questions, just making comments to posts.

    Like I said, I’m just peeking, but is it the new FSP? I’ve seen a couple of comments about JulieinCA. If that’s the case, I need to avoid that site at all costs.

  27. I just went to Ash’s and tried to wade through those hundreds of nasty comments. Pointless. Infantile. Drunk much?

    My only comment about seeing my nickname dragged in is that I was never involved with the people who are being discussed there. I don’t have a dog in that fight and I don’t post about anything about those folks, anywhere.

    But since they seem to have lost interest in the missing person’s case, and instead want to put their energy into tearing each other apart, it seems like they should find a forum just for doing that insted of cluttering Ashley’s blog with it. If Ashley is fine with it, OK. It does make it hard to read the comments though.

  28. Facs, very well put. All it takes is one glance at the first sentence of a post, and you can tell it has nothing to do with anything, other than personal attacks.

  29. I wonder…..does anyone think Ashley will post anything new today….WOW what a mess yesterday…some people are just so..so
    transparent !!!

  30. I’m laughing at JIC making a come back, and everyone that was so *tight* at one time, turning on one another.

    I’m enjoying hearing about how wonderful Sharon is at keeping Stacy in the news. There have been NO new news at all.

    And and Im waiting for a blog to come out with posting of what really went on behind the scenes at FSP, as it sounds like it might happen.

  31. BM is trying to make a come back on Ashley’s board. He wants to moderate it………LOL LOL

    Looks like some are letting Ashley know about him.

  32. And and Im waiting for a blog to come out with posting of what really went on behind the scenes at FSP, as it sounds like it might happen.
    *****************************

    I’m hoping it does too, so all those people can be lumped in one place. Every other place will be so much more pleasant.

  33. iknoweverythinglol // July 5, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    BM is trying to make a come back on Ashley’s board. He wants to moderate it………LOL LOL
    ***********************************

    I suppose his man Brodsky urged him to go for it, so he can gather info on Ashley.

    You can’t sleep with the devil and sing in the angel’s choir.

  34. Hi everyone.

    Have tried to wade through the Ashley blog, but it is gruesome. My opinion – I know she wanted to keep the blog “open,” but all the ugliness and mud slinging is just detracting from her intended purpose, that is, to expose DP and his cold, uncaring self. That’s too bad.

    Hope everyone enjoyed the Fourth. Hope the rest of the summer moves slowly! I don’t want to see it end too soon.

  35. my guess is that Ashley IS a man as well, just a hunch I guess you can say…

    I was wondering how long it would take for JIC to come out of the woodwork…I’ve also noticed that she has included Anthony in her rants about the “garden group” trouble in paradise??? I take it they are no longer together…another fine example how JIC turns on people!!!

    obviously she had to find an open blog to post at since mostly everyone else wouldn’t let her in theirs under that name…I’m sure she’s here and there but not under JIC

    the fact that she “went there” in regards to Cass just shows her TRUE CHARACTER! be pissed off at me or Sharon..or Sher…Smootch..Lilmama etc etc etc but when you start bringing the victims sister into things, then you’re one sick individual!!!!

    uggggh I can’t say that I’m surprised…I’m not…the only thing that surprises me is that it took her so long and that the white coats haven’t locked her up yet!

    anyway….hope you all had a fine 4th of July!!!!

  36. I’m surprised at how long it took some to realize she was a nut!!!

    All you had to do was read a post or two of her’s and it screamed “crazy women.”

    But I must admit, I’m getting a kick out of them all turning one another.

    I can remember on FSP, if you weren’t in the “cat club” you had value to the board.

    Oh how hard the mighty will fall, huh?

  37. Ya know what? The stuff that comes out of their ‘mouths’ over there, I would not have in my hand! What a sad, sad place. But, I admit, my curiosity got aroused when I heard that JIC was there … I didn’t know any details about what had happened there… still don’t. …and don’t think I want to. She has a potty mouth, too.

  38. Grandma, its amusing, at least to me.

    I have to remember to get that HUGE bottle of Advil for the DA’s office and the ISP. When they come in Monday morning and take a peek at what’s happened on the blogs over the holiday weekend, they will stroke out.

    And how Mobile got himself into the inner circle is beyond me, but again, just adds to my thoughts of that whole gang of people.

  39. No matter who Stacy was or what she did; she did not deserve to be drug away from her children and murdered.

  40. Have you ever noticed, there is NEVER drama behind Kathleen’s murder discussion.

    The Savio Family has been alone, not ripped apart etc.

    Why is that? Because they don’t have nutcase on either side of the case bringing all the nonsense to the surface.

    God Bless them for stay above it all!!!!

  41. No she didn’t, if that is in fact what happened to her.

    And if in fact she is deceased, I’m gonna bet she is horrified at what she has seen, and how everyone has conducted themselves in this missing persons case.

  42. Hey Dear, we had a wonderful 4th, and hope you and everyone else did as well. My family/company has all gone, so I stopped by to check and see if anything has been going on since Thursday. Seems not too much on here, but from the sound of it, Ashley’s blog has been pretty active, and not in a good way, lol. I don’t have a clue who Ashley is, and really don’t care anymore at this point, although I thought I knew when she first came out. Was wrong about that speculation, lol. Now all I care about is that she is doing a great job of showing how much Drew, Joel, and Glen have tried to fool the public with their Mr. Mom image of Drew. Most of us all knew better, but it’s been really entertaining to read it in black and white. Just laughable, but sad at the same time. Makes me wonder about a lot of things that I might not have otherwise.

    By the way, I can’t speak for others on here, but I don’t know some of these people you’re talking about in your post. I’ve never posted with them, nor been in involved with them in any way whatsoever. Some of the names you’ve mentioned are very familiar to me from reading at FSP, but that was only for a short while before the forum was dismantled. At any rate, and this is just my opinion, but I wouldn’t care if Julie did post her opinions on the case here, as it’s open to everyone, and like I said, I don’t even know her, or anything about her except what I’ve read on this blog. However, and again this is just my opinion, but I hate to see what has been reported as happening at Ashley’s to start happening over here, although I don’t believe Gatehouse would allow it before they quickly curtailed it. It just seems really funny that if anyone is bad mouthing FSP or Word Press, it’s someone from SYM, or if someone is bad mouthing SYM it’s someone from Word Press. Geez! There are way more than just two blogs on this case. That’s just a crock, and I wish people would just stop it with all the accusations.

    Maybe you were involved in that FSP “carp” as Noway calls it, but many of us here were not, and really don’t care about it all. But don’t get me wrong…..I really do understand if it’s personal and important to you, because I know exactly where you’re coming from when you’ve been dissatisfied with other boards and admins, but you get over it and move on. Doesn’t mean you can’t post whatever your opinion is. We all can. But, since we don’t all agree, you never know what kind of response to expect….or not.

    Your post from yesterday (that you posted in Crime Rant) was excellent. Enjoyed it very much! I’ve said a few tims myself on here that desperate times call for desperate measures, and ain’t it just so??

  43. Hi CFS. Good to see you. Hope you enjoyed the Fourth!

    I did see a bunch of our names lumped together yesterday on Ashley’s blog in a non-friendly way. Just goes to show you – it’s always something.

  44. Hey guys, just stopping by to check in. Ashleys blog has been pummeled with anon accusations. I have to say in defense of FSP that “it” didn’t cause the drama, it was some members who thrive on drama. We have all made some bad choices and I hope that we can still unite in our original goal of “justice for Stacy and Kathleen” . I look forward to good solid discussions when I get home from work tonight. Have a good evening!

  45. Just a thought, Ashley could have immed. put a stop to the nonsense, simply just get rid of the nasty posts, people’s real names being put out there etc.

    She has choosen instead to work on her *next* post, and will get to the other stuff later.

    I think she is thriving on this attention. JMO of course.

  46. Personally, I do choose to ignore the unstable rantings of a certain poster.

    I believe there are more good people around that will do the same.

    Thank you to all who care and have supported Stacy and Kathleen.

  47. After reading all THAT (Ashley’s), and elsewhere, I just want to say thank you to Gatehouse, and all the “regular” posters here. You know who you are. Of all the open sites, this is one place where there are intelligent and informative posts, (especially to curtail, when the trolls invade) While everyone on here does not agree, the regular posters have a sense of style and grace. Since I do not get online as much as I would like, thanks again to Gatehouse, and the regular posters here for a place to catch up, that is sane, and rational!

  48. LLTBF – ah, you’re absolutely right. Ashley is thriving on the attention. That is the point. She wants the attention, because it draws people in to read what she’s posting. That is, the disgusting actions of DP by sucking up the words of a future wife on the Internet.

    Now, before you say she gave her word that she wouldn’t do that, I must say this. Drew Peterson took wedding vows as to the sanctity of his marriages, and I’d say he blew that right out of the water. Four times. But, two, in particular, are quite alarming, to say the least.

    I’d say wiping those poor souls off the face of the earth trumps what she’s doing.

    🙂

  49. PatMcready – that was a very classy post. Gatehouse did create a nice atmosphere for blogging on the Peterson issues, and I must say I learned a lot here from the intelligent and forthcoming people that do post here.

  50. Rescue with all due respect, she has posted a few pm’s between herself and Drew.

    Now it’s just a free for all, and has nothing at all to do with what her purpose is.

    Anyone new coming onto that site, and reading the comment, will run screaming to get away from there.

    And I’m a little shocked that you are flat out calling him a murderer, without a trial. I understant that is your feeling, and I know where you stand.

    Your not open to any other suggestions, idea, theories etc.

    So what shall we discuss then? This case has been picked apart everyway til Tuesday, and because information isn’t being released, that leaves little else to disect.

    Most of what is being talked about, or pulled out from outside source, will never see the courtroom.

  51. Hey Rescue, good to see you too. And yes MBS, I know there were some wonderful people on FSP. You could tell by the way they posted how they felt, and it’s sad that anyone who thinks Drew is guilty is an FSP member. We all know that isn’t true, and there are “good and bad” posters on every blog. It’s not that the good people think the way you do, or the bad ones disagree, but the manner in which they express their opinions, opposing or not, is what makes a good or bad blogger….in my opnion. Personally, I’m just glad Gatehouse keeps a clean house, and I respect that other blogs can do what they want and host any poster they want. That’s perfect for anyone who doesn’t like the way things are done here, IMO.

  52. Rescue –

    From your posts you have made it clear that Drew killed both Kathleen and Stacy, and any other idea, theory, suggestion is unacceptable, because Drew killed them, period, end of discussion.

    Am I reading the post wrong? And if I am, I apoligize.

  53. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Have you ever noticed, there is NEVER drama behind Kathleen’s murder discussion.

    The Savio Family has been alone, not ripped apart etc.

    Why is that? Because they don’t have nutcase on either side of the case bringing all the nonsense to the surface.

    God Bless them for stay above it all!!!!
    ——————————————————–
    This is by far the best post in a long time. Why is it that you don’t see the Savio’s or the Stebic’s in this situation? They do not surround themselves with nutcases. I wish that Stacy’s family would do the same, but I don’t see it happening. They seem to think that this type of attention is good for Stacy because it keeps her name out there. I disagree! Lisa’s name is out there and her family acts with dignity and respect in honor of her name!

    Did anyone see that the Stebic’s children will be seeing their Grandparents? They were able to put their difference’s aside and come to an agreement FOR THE CHILDREN!

    I hope that everyone had a safe, nice 4th of July!

  54. I am open – what might your thoughts be about the fates of Drew Peterson’s wives?

    The goings on of the former fsp people?

    The family of Stacy Peterson?

    The blogger known as Ashley?

    The people who blog on Ashley’s board?

    See, cuz when I see you post, you are very opinionated in your beliefs too, some which are totally opposite of mine.

    So, um, why am I closed minded and you’re not?

    If I am wrong, I apologize. Is that how it goes?

    I think we’ve come to the fork in the road.

  55. Hey Let, I understand how you feel about not passing judgment on Drew until when or if he goes to trial, and I respect your opinion on that as well. I fall into the same category as Rescue when it comes to having an opinion of Drew being involved in the demise of these two women, and I guess until this does go to trial and he is proven not guilty, or even when or if the GJ doesn’t indict, I will believe with all my heart that Drew Peterson killed these two women. It’s only an opinion based on many, many things, but it’s mine, as well as the opinion of many others who follow this case. If someone doesn’t feel that way, that’s cool too. Feel free to tell everyone why you don’t, because the ones of us who do feel he’s involved sure don’t mind stating the reasons why we feel he is. Besides, it’s interesting to read how people who are exposed to the same information form differing opinions. Since this is only an opinion blog, NOT a court of law, and no one here will convict him or aquit him unless they somehow end up on a jury, please share why you don’t think he’s guilty. I for one would like to read it, and if you’ve posted it previously, I don’t remember it, sorry 😀

  56. Duckyone – I hope you’re right about shedding of the “nut cases.”

    Everyone, and I mean everyone, deserves a second chance. If the good thoughts were there in the beginning setting up a forum in the name of SP, and it didn’t serve well, then they were right to take it down.

    Doesn’t mean their hearts aren’t in the right place, that is, looking for Stacy.

  57. Yes, I can be opinionated. I admit that.

    But I have also said time and time again that I believe Drew is a scumbag.

    I have also said they haven’t seen anything seriously concrete to him being the murderer of these two young women.

    But I think it fair that if we are able to pick at Drew, then we should also be able to look at everything, and everyone involved, without being labeled, “Family Basher’s.”

    If people would act in certain ways, there would be nothing to pick apart, a perfect example, the Stebic Family.

    I’m still open to Drew being guilty, or innocent. That’s the difference.

  58. The Savio Family has been alone, not ripped apart etc.
    **********************************
    I’m sure the Savio family was also ripped apart when she became a victim of homicide. Any family would be.

    At that time, Drew was not named as a suspect in her death, and there was no prior suspicious death to make the case of such huge national interest. As a result, when Kathleen was killed Drew didn’t make national appearances or hire a publicist. He didn’t come out with outrageous statements about his dead wife to make her relatives and friends angered and repulsed, hence there was no backlash from them.

  59. And yes, you are so spot on about Kathleen Savio’s family not being in the limelight. At first they were a good bit, but I don’t see them much anymore. Maybe their attorney has given them so really good advice and they are choosing to follow it. Or maybe they have also seen how the Stacy side of this getting out of hand in some aspects, and they’re really trying hard to avoid something like that. I’m just glad for Kathleen’s children that her family is being dignified and respectful through this so far.

  60. Why is that? Because they don’t have nutcase on either side of the case bringing all the nonsense to the surface.
    *************************************

    Wait, isn’t one half of both cases identical?

    I’m not sure I get what you mean. To me ,on one side of both cases is the Drew/Brodsky/Selig machine. No?

  61. Bah, I’m having a hard time caring about the media antics of anyone at this point (or blog/forum for that matter). I’d really just like to see some movement in the actual case.

    I’ll admit, if I try to read the comments on Ashley’s bog, I don’t know who half of the people mentioned are, and often I’m not sure which commenter they are aiming their comments at when they get insulting.

    If everyone is called ‘anonymous’ and they all start their posts with “You said…”, it doesn’t take long before I’m just squinting at the screen and thinking it would be more beneficial to fill up the kiddy pool and give the dog a bath.

  62. And Kathleen’s family also didn’t start a website, with a message board. They didn’t taunt the *supposed* killer, in the name of keeping Kathleen’s name in the news. They haven’t sent away, due to their actions professional search crews. They haven’t held numerous fundraisers, and begged for money on their message board.

    The actions on both sides of this case are awful. Drew’s camp and Stacy’s camp.

    And it will come back to bite both camps, and it’s going to sting.

    Cassandra should have shut that site down instantly, but she let it continue for months and months.

    And look what’s happened now, all those that were a close, tight knit group, have parted ways, and are getting extremely nasty about it all.

    And before you all say, “Cassandra has never been in this position, and how was she to know how to handle it?” That’s why she should have kept the attorney she hired. She should have let him lead the show, and been the only spokesperson for the family. He would have set everything up proper and legal.

    I personally think she fell victim to a certain neighbor that she believed could handle all this, and it’s blown up on them.

  63. Drew’s story is that Kathleen’s death was an accident and he believes the first autopsy. There is no reason for him to trash Kathleen’s family.

    Of course, he deviated from that with his comment about advising Steve Maniaci to plead the Fifth.

  64. When I say both camps, I’m speaking of Drew, Joel, and Selig on one side. On the other Cassandra, Sharon, Roy etc.

    I agree with cfs, the Savio are probably taking the advise of the attorney they hired, and I believe they hired John Q Kelly, or at least that is what I thought I remember hearing. He is top in my book.

  65. Let, I agree with a lot you said, but wanted to add that Kathleen’s family KNOW where she is, so they don’t have to search for her, or raise money to find her. There’s a lot of differences in what happened to these two women, but they do have being married to Drew in common, if you know what I mean.

  66. cfs, thanks. I understand that. They have shown their support numerous times to the Cales/Peterson families, and I’m sure that has to be one of the hardest things they have ever had to do.

    And to be honest, I don’t know that I could have held myself together like they have when they have been around the others.

  67. cfs, I meant thanks, as is, you showed me another side that I had looked at, and I get it now.

    That last comment to you sounded harsh after I reread it, sorry.

  68. Well Let, they’re all after seeing the same man arrested, and THEY all believe he’s guilty. That speaks volumnes to me, because I only know him from what he’s shown himself to be on TV.

  69. No, and I wish Ashley would get to the meat and potatoes of her story.

    I’ll also very curious as to why it has taken her this long to come forward, and why she isn’t more organized if her mission is to show what a creep Drew is.

  70. I want to see something from the other women.

    And has anyone heard from Lizanne in the last month?

  71. I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t know that I have the energy to follow all this, and picked it apart for the next couple of years.

    I believe he will be indicted and charged. I also think the court case will be dragged out for a LONG time.

  72. I’m not sure why, but every time I read that someone is saying that Ashley is awesome and they just love her … it creeps me out.

    🙄

  73. You and I both. They have made her an idol, how scary is that?

    Oh well, let her have her moment.

  74. duckyone // July 5, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    FSP has been shut down for a couple months (?) and they should have moved on a long time ago.
    **********************************
    Yes. Yes. YES.

  75. Here is something I have been thinking about with Ashley.

    When you read the pm’s he will ask if he can call her, and next line will be something completely unrelated to what he asked.

    I have wondered if she hasn’t erased lines in between.

    The only reason I have thought about this is, Drew seems pretty persistant in his questioning etc, yet he completely let’s that pass.

    Does that make sense?

  76. Ashley next post better be darn good as she has been working on it for hours, and promised it would be great…….:)

  77. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    I’m wondering if there is any altering going on.

    Just curious!!!!
    *************

    For once…I don’t wonder this….I am sure of it !
    ( gut instinct )

  78. 1wonder, my gut tells me the same thing.

    I think she is afraid to go to the authorities because they will take her computer, and see what really is there…..;)

  79. The first one, noway, that’s up now.

    He asks at 11:42:03.
    She responds with an entirely difference subject at 11:42:06.

  80. Noway –

    The picture is labeled Number 1. There is just seconds between him asking and her going onto something else. Then in the next set of posts, it sounds like they were talking about something, possibly doing it together, and there is a lag in time.

    Take a look and see if you can figure it out.

  81. rescueapet // July 5, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    The first one, noway, that’s up now.

    He asks at 11:42:03.
    She responds with an entirely difference subject at 11:42:06.
    _____________

    So you think she deleted a post between the three second difference?

    I think you are confusing me!

  82. there is something odd about that

    “block the call *67….”

    had she already expressed not wanting to call him because she was afraid of him having her number?

    I know there was this chat and also an email where he gives his number and asks her to call him and according to her she never spoke with him on the phone…could that be because “she’s” really a HE??? I’m leaning towards that option…just reading some of “her” posts sometimes I think there are several different people posting under the name Ashley…verbage, linguistics, writing style become so randomly different from day to day…sometimes she’s got a heck of a potty mouth and others she is rather composed

    hmm? Some say it doesn’t matter who Ashley is…but I wonder? maybe it DOES!?

  83. “so can I get that phone call” That sounds to me like she agreed to call, and then changed the subject. There have been other posts about talking on the phone, or Drew wanting to talk on the phone.

    Drew seems like a pretty persistant person to me, why didn’t he act more aggressive in regards to this call.

    I don’t take anyone at blind trust, so it’s just my personality that has be wanting to know the whole story behind Ashley and Drew.

  84. Someone commented about her ignoring Drew’s “persistent” requests re a phone call and she pointed out that as far as what she had posted so far, he had only asked once, so where were they getting “persistent” from?

    I can’t remember where I read that and don’t want to go through 800 posts to find it.

    I think Ashley is a woman but think that as far as her comments go, it could be any one of the three answering.

  85. LLTBF-which post are they referring to? The link above doesn’t give you a time of 11:42. I am confused.

  86. Well I do know that a lot of guys that chat on line when there is potential of meeting will want to actually chat on the phone to make sure they aren’t talking to a man…lol

    if his persistence is a sign of that then maybe he should have taken that as an indication that maybe she was a man and run for the hills..but instead the doof keeps chatting away…pulling his earlobes and asking for hands in marriage

    oh brother! I’m laying my bet out now that Ashley is really a DUDE!!! LMAO!!!

  87. Ducky and Noway –

    I’m talking about the 11:42 exchange.

    And there was at least one other time me mentioned calling, he mentioned the * 67, or * 69 whatever it is.

    As far as persistant, that was me saying that Noway. He has been preceived as a man that if he *wants* something he wont stop until he gets it.

  88. I think Ashley is three people. One a mastermind type, and the other’s that can carry out mission, so to speak.

  89. Does anyone else find it hard to believe that Drew would be talking marriage with someone he never talked to?

    Now THAT is pathetic.

    IMO

  90. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    Does anyone else find it hard to believe that Drew would be talking marriage with someone he never talked to?

    Now THAT is pathetic.

    IMO
    ——————————————————–
    Very pathetic! How many others do you think that he saying the same thing to? ICK!!

  91. The whole thing is odd. That is one more reason that I think he did speak to someone. But that someone isn’t going to share that with us, regardless if JB said they never talked, I still believe they did.

  92. Think about it.

    If she was altering the text she posted, Drew would know. *Someone* would be calling her a pos and a liar. 😉

  93. I think they could put Ashley on the stand to be more a character type witness, so for that reason, I think there is more to the story. If what she is posting is it all, then go to the authorities.

    If she isn’t being completely honest with all of us, and her involvement, that would throw out her creditability at trial.

  94. Why would Drew ask her to block her number? Is he that stupid? It would still show up on her bill when the police found out about her.

    *82-unblocks your number.

  95. I kind of think that maybe they did not talk on the phone – not so much because “Ashley” is a man, but more to make sure that whatever they talked about was “recorded” so to speak. Thus the files.

    Who the heck knows…..?

  96. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    The whole thing is odd. That is one more reason that I think he did speak to someone. But that someone isn’t going to share that with us, regardless if JB said they never talked, I still believe they did.
    ________________
    She does address this somewhere, but it’s too much work and I am admittedly lazy. I don’t want to dig through posts of carp.

  97. Noway, think it’s possible that the defense and or the prosection are working on getting their hands on her hard drive?

  98. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Think about it.

    If she was altering the text she posted, Drew would know. *Someone* would be calling her a pos and a liar.
    +++++++++++++++++

    Noway, you keep this up and you know what’s going to happen don’t you? 😀

  99. phone call requests

    only found the two references to her calling him…but I’m sure there are more

    she’s taking a long time with preparing todays posting

    I have to wonder though if this were a set up why does she look so ill prepared and needs time to “gather” everything???

    I’m still sticking with her being a MAN…went back and reread all of the IM’s and there are some things written that sound like a guy…not saying woman don’t ever speak that way but some of the things look like they were written as if a guy would know what to say to bait him…like the smoov comment…most women I know don’t advertise that they wax…especially over the internet…lol…but if were looking at a guy’s perspective…and a guy is writing this they would know that would be a turn on..well because they too are a guy…lol…did that make any sense???

    she/he/IT promises a great post today…we shall see

  100. Let, I think Joel is doing whatever he can to get his hands on the records from yahoo chat and aim.com …

    cfs, is there something wrong with my pronoun usage? 😉

  101. And Noway, how could anybody, regardless of what they think about Drew’s guilt or innocence, NOT find it hard to believe that he could propose to someone he had never talked to on the phone, much less met. Talking about desperate……….or maybe psychopathic would be a better description. Unbelievable.

  102. cfs, yes, even people who have been on the fence or pro-Drew if you will are finding it hard to believe that he would have done this.

    Maybe Drew was PMSing.

  103. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    cfs, is there something wrong with my pronoun usage?
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Pronoun, schmonoun. You know what I was talking about. 😀

  104. I dont put that past Drew at all to propose to someone he has never even spoken to.

    With that said, I want to see the WHOLE pm, im or whatever they are calling them.

  105. Why hasn’t LE seized her computer and brought her in for questioning? They got Kim M. right away. It makes no sense to me. Anyone?

  106. Let me clarify. They are not questioning that Drew did this; Joel has verified that Drew did chat with Ashley.

    Everyone seems to having a hard time grasping WHY Drew would go online and chat with someone he didn’t know and say the things he said.

  107. Oh I have no problem believing he is online chatting with women etc. None at all.

    My only curosity is seeing the whole thing.

    Ducky, I have wondered the same thing. And I wouldnt be one bit surprised to see one of these days logging on and going to her site to see it *gone.*

    Then watch for the whining to start!!!!

  108. Let, I’m paraphrasing but Ashley said that there is a reason she is posting bits and pieces (besides marketing).

    Ducky, the lack of coverage on this (where is the National Enquirer when you need it) and the lack of action by LE is all very interesting.

    Well, Ducky, Kim was flesh and blood and abandoned on the streets of Naperville by the police. Ashley is just a virtual woman. Who is to say that LE knows who she is?

  109. But I’ll repeat something I really believe.

    There are no *leaks* here … LE makes public what they want made public.

    Kim Matuska was brought into the public eye when she was *for a reason.*

    Ashley started her blog when she did *for a reason.”

    Patience young grasshopper (I’m stealing that from a poster here … not to mention a really old movie). 😀

  110. I don’t know anything about electronic forensic information.

    Would they need her hard drive to actually see what’s on it? Can they go before a Judge and get a warrant to somehow get into her system with a computer of their own to see what’s on it?

    Maybe Monday they will be paying Ashley a visit, it is the holiday weekend afterall.

  111. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Let, I’m paraphrasing but Ashley said that there is a reason she is posting bits and pieces (besides marketing).

    Ducky, the lack of coverage on this (where is the National Enquirer when you need it) and the lack of action by LE is all very interesting.

    Well, Ducky, Kim was flesh and blood and abandoned on the streets of Naperville by the police. Ashley is just a virtual woman. Who is to say that LE knows who she is?
    ——————————————————-
    I have no doubt that LE knows who he/she is! Even if Ashley is a dude, Drew may have given something away in his IM’s. It makes no sense why LE hasn’t stepped in. I guess we shall have answers when they feel like giving them to us. I am just impatient! Noway-I saw your comment about today being a good day because you weren’t busy. LOL. It’s a good day for me too, so Ashley needs to put one out there. 😉

  112. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Dearheart … lol … you don’t know woman who advertise they wax? Thank goodness. 😀

    not the way this “girl” did…usually something that might get discussed oh I don’t know WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ARE DATING THE PERSON!!!!! lmao

    also at one point she says “not all b*tches are like me” not many women I know refer to themselves as that unless they are called one and then they go into the rant “I KNOW I am a B*tch..I’m the best B*tch there is….” etc etc

    these are just little vernacular slips that are causing me to think “MAN-BOT”

  113. Why would LE step in?

    No crime has been committed? Has it?

    A murder suspect has talked trash about women in general but unless a confession was made, I don’t see what the hoopla is about Ashley’s blog other than good summer reading while we wait for a weapons charge court date to get here.

    Of course, I don’t know what Ashley has in store for her next post.

    Maybe it’s something worth talking about.

  114. Ok I’m aging myself here, but hasn’t biatch become a new word that young girls use in calling themselves.

    Isn’t there some celebrity that made that somewhat common?

    I’m so far behind the times….lol.

  115. And you probably wouldn’t want to, it would most likely send you to the *funny farm* for a *visit* 😉

  116. As far as LE being interested in any of this, just my personal opinion on this.

    If I were with the ISP and saw her website, I think I would be interested to see it all.

    Like someone mentioned earlier, did he possibly give her any clues, that she didn’t even catch, stuff like that.

    I would think that would fit into leaving no stone unturned.

  117. Oh man….I see the ILY’s coming on Ashley’s site.

    The posting is starting to sound very familiar of days gone by.

    Please Dear Lord, do NOT allow them to call today Caturday and ask for donations.

  118. Ok I’m going outside for a bit and enjoy the neighbors.

    Be back later, and I hope Ashley has something new up for us to read by that time.

  119. To address the “Ashley is on the east coast because Drew typed 3-14 instead of 3-15”:

    Ashley said…
    Ashley Fan , not only that but one of them was saying that Drew had to see all them time tamps on his screen so how could he not know the time well thats way wrong because my timestamps & date will not show on your yahoo screen – vice versa , but hey its cool .

    July 4, 2008 4:03 PM

    Ashley said…
    It would be like Drew time stamping & dating his instant messages to me – if I was not time stamping & dating mine I would not see his .. Yahoo would confirm that

    July 4, 2008 4:07 PM

    It’s okay that we’re quoting her, isn’t it? She had made herself a public figure with a public blog …

  120. I think Drew told Ashley to block the call for the same reason he told Sharon she could wear gloves to move his car.

    He knows that people are afraid of any involvement with him and he wants give them assurances.

  121. Noway-I have used instant messaging and when I talk to my friends in a different time zone, my screen says my time and their screen says their time. ??

  122. After checking out Ashley’s site, there is a pm where ‘Drew’ says the ear tugs are towards Ashley, but yet it was said here after it happened that it was for ‘Denise’. So is Ashley and Denise the same person? And why wait so many months to out Drew about online dating? It was already reported back in March that he has been seen at bars with different females, so we already knew that he was looking for companionship even though he is still married and what kind of principles he has. And one other thing that bothers me why wait to bring what Ashley and Drew chatted about to LE? We do not know what LE knows that they haven’t told but yet Drew might have slipped while chatting with Ashley. But it seems to me that Ashley thinks it’s more important to put it on the internet than go to LE.

  123. girlygurl // July 5, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Does anyone know when it was that DP got his computers back?
    ——————————————————–
    He got his guns back on March 22, along with “other” items that were seized. The article didn’t specify the computer.

    It was reported that he had a different computer during the time that LE had his.

  124. In a 3/17 article on here, it was said that he would get his computers back within two weeks with a ghosted hard drive. Not sure the exact date he got them, but it was within two weeks from March 17th.

  125. Checking in. still sick as allgitout. Just reading for now. Got some more info but too long to post for now. Kris should be up at GJ this Thurs. Will check in as often as poss. Sure do miss you alot! Take good care and Shalom!

  126. Bash, we sur emiss you too, and so sorry to hear you’re sick, especially at allgitout! Just know you’re in our thoughts, we come back as soon as you can. We’ll say hello everynow and then. I’ll email you Lavanda some too, okay? Take care!

  127. I may be guessing here, but since Ashley has only been posting her messages for a week, what makes some think that LE would’ve rushed in and confiscated her computers, etc. by now? If she’s “hiding” herself by proxy (yeah, like I know what all that means), she just may not be so easy to find anyway.

    Getting records through yahoo and aim is one thing, but uncovering her is another, right?

  128. Let me start over Bash…..

    We miss you and so sorry to hear you’re sick, especially as allgitout! Just know you’re in our thoughts and come back as soon as you can. We’ll say hello every now and then. I’ll email you at Lavanda’s some too, okay? Take care!

  129. Rescue, you know, I just don’t know what to think about this Ashley stuff anymore, I really don’t. There are so many possibilties out there as far as who she is or isn’t and why she’s doing this, or why she hasn’t done that. I’ve just decided that since whatever I try to think about Miss Ashley always turns out wrong, I’m just going to sit back and watch it all unfold, lol. It’s just entertainment for me right now. However, I have wondered if she is the other two women that are coming forward, and just did it to sucker him further, or if they somehow (don’t have a clue how) got in touch with her after she made her posts public. I swear, I just don’t know about any of this. 😀

  130. duckyone // July 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Noway-I have used instant messaging and when I talk to my friends in a different time zone, my screen says my time and their screen says their time. ??
    ________________
    From what I understood, Ashley had the date and time stamp on so that is why we see his and hers. (Ashley said: Drew time stamping & dating his instant messages to me – if I was not time stamping & dating mine I would not see his .. Yahoo would confirm that.)

    Scott, I think it was at the time he was rumored (nothing has been confirmed) to have been dating Denise, so that is why it was believed to be meant for her.

    Of course, nobody knew about Kim and Denise at that time. Well, nobody posted that they did. 😉

  131. cfs – I don’t have a clue as to who it may be. I even thought it was a college kid (Downstate) that is doing some kind of research, at one point, LOL. Who knows.

    She says she’s outting herself in 2 weeks or so, so I guess we’ll have to wait until then.

  132. Noway, that guy (John) that posted about Denise on here did say in one of his posts that the ear tugs were for Denise. Some of those posts were deleted that day. Don’t know if it’s still there are not.

  133. Noway: For the ear tug. After it happened a John came on here saying it was for ‘Denise’. We can only go by his word on that. I’m just wondering how many reports we will get now that the ear tug were for other women.

  134. I remember John and “a female poster” talking that night … so it was the mysterious John who said that. And then we never heard from him again, did we?

  135. Was it from March 25 … April 25 … something like that?

    I know Scott mentioned it and then somebody found the post.

  136. At 8:06 Ashley said we could expect a new post in 15 minutes … so far nada.

    But my kids are home, so it’s probably going up in a few seconds.

    🙂

  137. Another John had posted on here before that, but I’m not sure if it was the same one.

    Just popped over to Ashley’s to see if her new “stuff” was up. Not yet, but my goodness, there are over 900 posts on the last one. What in the world could everyone be talking about?? And NO, I don’t want to read it! Not after what I’ve heard is on there.

  138. CFS, I belive we were, that’s when exlaw went nuts that Drew was dating and wanted ALOT of info from ‘John’.

  139. scott – I was going over some old posts the other night, and I couldn’t believe how exlaw was all over that Drew dating stuff. She wanted everything but the lady’s SS #. That was very strange. What in the world was that all about with the third degree???

  140. rescue, I think that maybe exlaw had a crush on Drew. And with how she was acting, she is the type of female I stay VERY far away from.

  141. Yeah, Scott, I got that impression when I was reading it, but it was bordering on lunacy the way she harped on knowing every detail about the woman.

    You know of what you speak, Scott, ….. stay very far away from the likes of that type!

  142. rescue, exlaw is the type where not one red flag goes up, but atleast 10 red flags go up (and that’s in the first minute).

  143. I’m wondering

    could “JOHN” and “DENISE” be one in the same?

    could “they” be “Ashley”

    something that always bothered me about the John postings is he posted the name Denise got everywhere in a hurry and then *poof* John was GONE!

    and not a word from him since Kim and now Ashley have come into light…seems strange to me????

  144. I know..she’s taking her sweet time isn’t she???

    right now they are discussing that apparently one of the two other “females” he chatted with supposedly received a web cam picture of Drew’s “Frank and Beans”

    GOD I HOPE THIS ISN’T TRUE!!!!!!!!

    seriously I could not stomach it..don’t know many who would!

  145. http://tirgana.livejournal.com/4187.html?view=1627#t1627

    The “chief” doesn’t have as much control as he thinks. Most don’t want to know. But there are two who are actively hiding the truth. The woman is in the lab. She was to be wife number five. She is the source of the contamination. Her name is androgynous–Jan or Jamie. Short brown hair, hazel to blue eyes, young, pretty in her own right, but not beautiful. The other is higher up and remains in the shadows. He is younger but has more authority; his ego bullies and controls others with threats and promises. He does what he does not out of friendship but to protect his political ambition.

    You know, this girl she talks about is who I think exlaw is.

  146. The only pic that I can click on from Ashley’s is the recent note from her to DP. What about you guys?

  147. I don’t know what amazes me more. His stupidity for not keeping a low profile for himself, or how clever Ashley is. She’s pretty much got every little detail covered. She’s curiously witty!

  148. that site he belongs to is NASTY!!!!!

    PORN FILLED

    Nice behavior for this man who is under the spotlight and knows it…nice behavior to carry on with teens in the home…yes the little ones matter too..but at least their peers can’t read!!! when this gets out I have to wonder what the older boys are going to be put through at school..haven’t they been through enough???!!!

    I have a real problem with any parent doing this…but even more so with DP doing it…again he thinks he’s so smart and above it all…he just doesn’t get it

    he listed his status as being “separated” on that site

    is that what they call it when your wife is missing and presumed dead at YOUR hand Drew??? “S E P A R A T E D”????

    She’s fixing the page right now so we’ll be able to enlarge those pages…but trust me…if you don’t want to see porn…don’t look!

    a lot more than just chest shots…some VERY GRAPHIC pics on that site

    what a nasty man!

  149. You guys might be right about who Ashley is. On DP’s friends from that site, there is a friend called WPGirly.

    Maybe the 3rd screen shot. You can only see a silhouette of her pic though.

  150. Drew sure is “acting” like a man whose wife left him.

    hedidit, would that person’s name begin with A also?

    I happened to see that photo and it caught my eye … I had just seen someone who looked remakably like that on another site.

  151. Ya know, it’s one thing to do that stuff in the privacy of your home (hopefully, out of the eye shot of your four minor children), but that darn PR guy better start putting ads in the paper for additional people. He’s going to need a whole boatload of media writers and filmers to fix this mess, LOL.

    We all know he’s a “separated” womanizer that needs to be sedated with thorazine for its antipsychotic properties.

    I’m betting that this isn’t going to impress the book publishers DP is courting these days, especially if he hopes to throw out the “dish” he thinks is going to put his dead wives in a bad light. Ummm, nope, don’t think that’s going to work. On to Plan B, Drew Peterson.

    I’m kinda thinking that what’s going on outside the house, say, next door, is cookies and milk compared to what’s going on inside. Hmmm?

  152. I don’t know NoWay. Research it, bring your finds because I don’t know.

    I just think WP Girly is an interesting nic being that you all had some suspicions earlier.

  153. 1wonderwoman – Ashley’s blog isn’t going “hurt” the case, IMHO.

    I liken much of what’s going on with Ashley’s blog with what happened between Scott Peterson and Amber Fry. She didn’t nail the murder for anything in particular. She just proved what a stinkin’ low life he was. Enough to give the jurors pause about what kind of human being he was. Seems to be the same thing here. Cold, calculated, heartless individual, driven by the head below his waist, not the one on his shoulders.

    Who gave Ashley the bat to beat him over the head with??? You know what I mean by that, don’t you?

    How can what is going on with Ashley’s blog and her posts be hurtful to a case when the main attraction is Bozo the Clown himself. And guess who Cookie is (wasn’t that Bozo’s sidekick?).

  154. I don’t see that this means diddly. Drew is an adult belonging to an adult website.

    Yes, it tarnishes his Mr. Mom image, but IMO, it doesn’t mean much.

    And I’m just thinking that the A who looks like WPGirly might have been someone trying to get the goods on Drew.

    I still think Ashley is someone separate.

  155. Yes Ashley probably is someone else, but the WPGirly, maybe someone who you all were talking about earlier?

  156. I figured it out! I PMd you back … but it may take the long route to get to you. . . not sure what’s up with that. 😉

  157. Recue, just got back. Sent you an email. Man oh man, wonder what Britney Spears is going to say about this????? I am in total disbelief and disgust with this guy, but hey, he is who he is, and ain’t his mama going to be proud if she finds out about this? Good Lord have mercy.

  158. And in a rehab hospital under psychiatric care? Maybe that explains it. She really couldn’t be there for a date with him, lol.

  159. Think about it guys. Britney Spears (although he’s dreaming and hallucinating about her) is a very fragile, broken individual, who needs direction and guidance. Wah lah. Drew’s her man!

    Isn’t that what he’s attracted to in women? Young, beautiful, but struggling with life? Ones that “need” a man to help them through the rough spots?????

  160. And he wasn’t the publicity too, don’t forget. I’m really starting to feel nauseated by this. Gross. GROSS!

  161. hedidit // July 5, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    Anyone think the spin cycle is broken on that PR firm’s machine?

    I haven’t heard a thing.
    +++++++++++
    Hedidit, I don’t think this type of thing is covered under the $289 package deal.

  162. 🙂 cfs

    You know the spin is going to be that Drew was so distraught over Stacy leaving him that he started looking for love in all the wrong places … and even before he spoke to the woman on the phone much less in person.

    😦

  163. rescueapet // July 5, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    Think about it guys. Britney Spears (although he’s dreaming and hallucinating about her) is a very fragile, broken individual, who needs direction and guidance. Wah lah. Drew’s her man!
    ******************************

    Oh man, she’d be his perfect victim.

  164. That sums it up Noway. I told another poster on SYM weeks ago that this thing with Kim reminded me of the song “Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places.””

  165. What does Drew’s son Eric do for a living?

    Anyone know?

    Where is Bash, keeper of all data, when you need her?

  166. Noway – I think this stuff could be brought into court IF it was shown he was involved in it before Stacy disappeared. But even if that were the case, we know that she was also emotionally estranged from him and flirting with others before her disappearance so…I’m not so sure it would be significant.

  167. Well, facs, it might be more interesting if he was doing it before Stacy disappeared and any of those women kept chat logs. 🙂

    Guess he’d have a harder time saying he thought he had a good marriage if he was off looking for “naughty fun, discreet relationships, or casual sex” …

  168. Now that Ashley has posted the latest, including a chat between the two of them from 4/4/2008, please, read this link. I’ve copied a few pertinent parts:

    Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Prepares for Possible Arrest, Blames Media for ‘Sinister’ Portrayal

    BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — Jobless and with no prospects, Drew Peterson spends his days taking care of his four children: cooking meals, washing clothes, helping with homework. All the while, he does so knowing that most of the world believes he killed his last two wives.

    “I am now dealing with the court of public opinion, which is filled with my jury pool,” explained Peterson, who conducted the interview last week with his attorney’s blessing.

    Peterson’s image has taken a beating. He has repeatedly come off as boorish and callous, after making wisecracks about his wife’s menstrual cycles and enthusiastically agreeing on a radio show to take part in a “Win a Date With Drew” contest.

    Peterson acknowledges that his behavior might be seen as peculiar and his jokes inappropriate, although he blames the news media for portraying him as a “sinister character lurking around underneath rocks.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340871,00.html

  169. Oh Noway, heck it’s a public song. But it does fit, doesn’t it?

    Facs, they should have been able to tell what type of online activity he had on his computer when they were confiscated. Although, there is the missing computer that was said to be Stacy’s. However, I have never been sure that it was hers. Don’t you know that Drew knew LE would find anything he had done in the was of porn site and dating? I’ve just wondered if the one he says was Stacy’s was really his, and he hid it from LE.

  170. IMO it was always Drew who did something with the laptop.

    I figured he had tracking cameras in the house and recorded Stacy and tracked her from the laptop … meaning that he could “watch” her from the laptop while she was in her car (for example).

    He got rid of the laptop because of incriminating stuff on it. That could include visits to these sites.

    Ric Mimms would know if Drew visited these sites. Steve C. might as well. And Drew’s cop buddies …

  171. This (from the above-linked article) especially is warm and fuzzy:

    Peterson’s home life is centered on raising his children from the two marriages: two teenage boys, ages 13 and 15, plus a 3-year-old daughter and a 4-year-old son.

    and this:

    “It’s very lonely without her,” he said. “She created a real nice environment, home environment, for the kids and I.”

  172. Ok maybe I missed something. She spent hours to post a website where Drew is a member?

    And I agree with Lavanda, black out the other women’s faces. No need to drag them into this crap.

    I’m thinking Prolly is friends with Ashley, which kinda, sorta backs up my theory that Ashley is actually numerous people.

  173. And, of course Joel has stated that Drew belongs to no online dating sites.

    I can’t believe that there are some people still earnestly chatting with Mr. Brodsky and thinking that they are getting truthful responses to any of their questions.

    And kudos to all who have engaged him in order to reveal the lies and watch him stutter and squirm.

  174. The pm message that Ashley posted today 4/4/08 at 10:16 from Ashley to Drew it talks about how Ashley’s girlfriend talks about Drew’s friend and wants him (Drew’s friend). I thought Drew lost all of his friends by 4/4/08.

  175. As you asked earlier Noway, how do we know that is actually Drew that set up that profile on those sites, or at the very least the last one?

  176. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Is it for real? Threesomes and orgies?
    +++++++++++++

    What are you talking about Noway?

  177. Scott!!!!!! I started to write a post about that, got sidetracked, and here you are with it. Hmmm, SC? Yup, seems Ashley’s friend is hot for the bod of DP’s only friend. Of course, unless he’s speaking of Brodsky. Nah.

  178. While on the topic of Brodsky, are you all familiar with his latest case? A cop accused of raping a woman on duty?

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/news/1032062,WA30_haynes_s1.article

    Believe me, I know the American justice system requires he services of defense attorneys. If I or a loved one were ever in trouble, it would be my first phone call.

    But, DAYyyamm it takes a special kind of person to accuse an alleged rape victim of leaving the courtroom in order to shoot up in the bathroom.

  179. cfs …

    Man looking for Woman for 1-on-1 encounters, 3-somes/orgies

    Quoting from the new screen Ashley put up.

  180. And why is she emailing him?

    Seriously, someone help to understand this. I’m very seriously confused.

    She’s finding it more important to email him etc, yet can’t seem to make it to the authorities with what she does have. Why not let them, ISP, look at it and see if has anything relevant to the case?

  181. cfs – Ashley posted a screen shot of a Drew narrative, wherein he included his interest in a 3-way orgy.

  182. Let, she indicated that she did go to LE.

    Something about being busy yesterday but that she was not busy today.

    She didn’t come right out and say it …

  183. Gosh, Joel . Y’think you know someone and then…
    ********************************

    Is DP now, or has he in the past been, a member of any “singles” or “dating” websites or companies?

    2. Not a member, that I know of. He does browse the web and these type of sites do pop up and are in unsolicited e-mails, but he is not actively seeking an intimate personal relationship right now, and certainly not through the internet.

  184. cfs, you’re the lucky one … not seeing it the first time. 🙂

    And yikes … don’t want to meet the woman who has the hots for JB. Sorry. But. I. do. not.

  185. I do remember her saying something like that.

    I also wonder if this doesn’t border on cyber stalking a bit.

    The only reason I wonder that is, she is the one contacting him now, the one posting conversations they have had etc.

    Like I said earlier I don’t know what the laws are regarding that sort of behavior, but it seems still like a dangerous game to me.

  186. facs, do you know what date he posted that?

    But you see the “lawyer-ese” that he uses? People think he answered his question but there was always some qualifier like “that I know of” …

  187. I never thought I’d see the day but for the first time in 8 months of following this case, I think I’ve gotten too much information.

    But it’s like a car accident. I have to look.

  188. Yes, Noway. He says “that I know of” and then goes on to speak authoritatively.
    I’m going to start doing that with my kids, I think. 🙂

  189. Noway, that wasn’t there when I looked the first time. Just went back to see why I missed it, and it was because there was a new frame. Blonde hair? When, in 1984?

  190. How long did he have this membership … his hair is “dark blonde” … otherwise known as “grey” …?

  191. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Like I said earlier I don’t know what the laws are regarding that sort of behavior, but it seems still like a dangerous game to me.
    **********************************

    Ashley strikes me as a risk-taker. I get the feeling she may have gotten some legal counsel before taking all of this public – especially since she hadn’t heard from him since 5/22, wasn’t it, at the time she started the blog?

    I imagine she feels that it’s worth the risk.

  192. Hey Ashley – if you look here and read, post more of your chats. See, because then we can compare those to what he and his attorney told the press at the same time. We know he’s a pig, you’ve showed us, but show us the words to you in private that don’t match the words to us in public.

  193. Ashley said…
    hi Prolly, I’m just over here wall papering our blog room with amateur match .com wallpaper – hows it look ?
    ___________
    Hedidit, I think you’re right about prolly and ashley.

    Just wondering if there are a group of people nabbing Drew … those who got tired of being armchair detectives …

  194. facs, 5/11 was when she’d last heard from Drew (until he contacted her after the blog came out) .

    Blog started 6/26 or so.

  195. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    I do remember her saying something like that.

    I also wonder if this doesn’t border on cyber stalking a bit.

    The only reason I wonder that is, she is the one contacting him now, the one posting conversations they have had etc.

    Like I said earlier I don’t know what the laws are regarding that sort of behavior, but it seems still like a dangerous game to me.
    +++++++++++++
    Hey Let, I get cha Baby. Really, I do. But you know what? After all the stalking Drew has reportedly done, and all the laws he has supposedly broken, and all the games he’s played with women in his life, two wrongs don’t make a right, but it tickles the heck out of me that Drew Peterson is finally on the other end of the receiving line for a change. Please don’t put a sprinkler on our fireworks Girlfriend! Can’t you see how much we’re enjoying this?? 😀

  196. She is simply proving a lot of what he and JB have stated to be wrong.

    So if he lies about some things, can we then assume he lies about others?

    Uh. YEAH I think so.

  197. cfs, I can, and I promise I will refrain from putting out your fun….;)

    Deal you got it!!!

    Promise me then you wont rain on my excitement when the cat people start bickering amongst themselves….that tickles me…..;)

  198. Cyber stalking. Hmm. Is that the same has stalking your ex fiance and giving her a ticket for a nonsensical reason, merely to harass her? No, that’s not cyber stalking. That’s Drewber stalking!

  199. Here’s one, I’m just wondering if Ashley’s friend is so hot for Drew’s friend’s bod by seeing him in person or by seeing him on tv or a pic of him?

  200. noway406 // July 5, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    facs, 5/11 was when she’d last heard from Drew (until he contacted her after the blog came out) .
    *******************

    Thanks – I was going off memory (which isn’t so good).

  201. You know what, let these people do whatever.

    The funny is gonna be when one of them get arrested before Drew.

    As cfs two wrong don’t make a right, and I agree with that. Drew is, has been, and always will be a scumbag.

    I guess I just dont understand the feeling and need to taunt a suspected double murderer.

    That’s too scary of a game for me to play.

  202. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    cfs, I can, and I promise I will refrain from putting out your fun….

    Deal you got it!!!

    Promise me then you wont rain on my excitement when the cat people start bickering amongst themselves….that tickles me…..

    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Deal! But just remind me if I forget, lol. 😀

  203. So Ashley is saying her friend has a crush on Drew’s friend, yet her friend didn’t know it was Drew that Ashley was talking with?

    Did I read that right?

  204. wow you guys , cann’t keep up wit what your saying , what pic’s ??? and what site of say porn site ya say drew hangs out at ?? is it ashleys site or what can ya give links to what ya talking of hard to follow with you and then comment ….

    please anyone thanks

  205. So Drew was sharing pictures of a friend of his with Ashley, who in return was sharing them with her friend.

    Whew,!!!!!

  206. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    I guess I just dont understand the feeling and need to taunt a suspected double murderer.

    That’s too scary of a game for me to play.
    **********************************

    I’ll admit it’s an unusual tactic and one I haven’t seen before, but then I’ve never seen a defense attorney taking his case to the Internet either.

    It could all come to naught for everyone, but then again maybe not. It will be interesting to see what is admitted when and if this ever goes to trial.

  207. Facs, yes it will. This case has more characters than other cases I have followed. Almost need a flow chart to keep track of them all.

  208. letthetruthbefree // July 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    So Ashley is saying her friend has a crush on Drew’s friend, yet her friend didn’t know it was Drew that Ashley was talking with?

    Did I read that right?
    ******************************

    That is how I understood it as well.

  209. Facsmiley, your said: Ashley strikes me as a risk-taker. I get the feeling she may have gotten some legal counsel before taking all of this public – especially since she hadn’t heard from him since 5/22, wasn’t it, at the time she started the blog?

    I imagine she feels that it’s worth the risk.
    _______________________

    There is no way I believe she went to any legal counsel. I can assure you they would have told her to NOT post this on the web. Right now a few anonymous posters harped on me due to my comments that she should not be posting these women’s photographs that are linked to Drew’s “friend list” on that dating/sex site. Some of those women could have had their images taken off the web and the person behind the computer is Not who the pic portrays. There is potential for huge lawsuits should one of those women step forth and say “I did not allow my pic to be on that sex site, that screen name is NOT me” and can further sue anyone using that picture in a derogatory manner….God forbid one of them is a school teacher or whatever and her pic was stolen by the screenname on that site. I tried to convey that to Ashley, however, she doesn’t seem to think it’s a problem. Therefore, I KNOW any attorney would tell her the same as I. No. She doesn’t have any legal counsel, least not by what I see her posting. She should. And fast.

  210. Lavanda, I agree.

    Attack Drew all they want, knock your socks off, but those are women, it’s just so very wrong.

    I think she will learn, but it might be the hard way, in a Court of Law.

  211. lavandadolce // July 6, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Facsmiley, your said: Ashley strikes me as a risk-taker. I get the feeling she may have gotten some legal counsel before taking all of this public – especially since she hadn’t heard from him since 5/22, wasn’t it, at the time she started the blog?

    I imagine she feels that it’s worth the risk.
    _______________________

    There is no way I believe she went to any legal counsel. I can assure you they would have told her to NOT post this on the web. Right now a few anonymous posters harped on me due to my comments that she should not be posting these women’s photographs that are linked to Drew’s “friend list” on that dating/sex site. Some of those women could have had their images taken off the web and the person behind the computer is Not who the pic portrays. There is potential for huge lawsuits should one of those women step forth and say “I did not allow my pic to be on that sex site, that screen name is NOT me” and can further sue anyone using that picture in a derogatory manner….God forbid one of them is a school teacher or whatever and her pic was stolen by the screenname on that site. I tried to convey that to Ashley, however, she doesn’t seem to think it’s a problem. Therefore, I KNOW any attorney would tell her the same as I. No. She doesn’t have any legal counsel, least not by what I see her posting. She should. And fast.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Yeah I bet the school teacher is that one with her hoo hoo wide open……………………….LOL

  212. I did take the photo’s and put smiley faces to cover their pictures. As for their screennames…well, that is anonymous anyhow…we shall see if she is going to be smart and cover her arse and block the faces. I wouldn’t want to be her if someone comes out of the woodwork and files suit. For that matter, that site could file suit. They may have some kind of disclosure agreement that no pics be removed from the site as they are property of that site. I’m sure Brodsky would have no problem wanting to represent any one of those women for free…..or that site…just for spite and paybacks. Ya know? So the rest are laughing and coaxing her on……….and invariably…those anonymous posters don’t have a thing to risk……………….she does.

  213. I think if any of of those women has an issue with their photos being on Ashley’s site, they will let her know.

    I like to let grownups be grownups.

  214. acandyrose said…
    Ashley,

    For one to truly document something in it’s original content then you have to leave it in it’s orginal content. I say leave all the screen captures as you originally captured them and just block out sexual content which you’ve done.

    I mean there just thumbnails and it’s not like you’re showing full blown pics (if in fact they are even real people)of all his online dating site buddies. Good Lord these woman put their pictures there, they want somebody to see them!!

    I say “Welcome to the Internet!”

    You’re doing a GREAT service Ashley, just keep doing what you’re doing girlie. 🙂

    Just my Opinion,
    ACR

    July 6, 2008

  215. Well guys, it’s Ashley’s show, and if she chooses not to listen to anyone’s advice, there’s not much anyone here us can do about it. You’ve all tried to get your points across, but this young woman seems very determined in her quest, regardless of what anyone else thinks. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out as far as LE is concerned.

  216. Wait – I should say:

    It ain’t no sin to tell it like it is, but it might be litigable.

    Time will tell. 🙂

  217. rescueapet // July 6, 2008 at 12:17 am

    IKELOL – hoo hoo?
    *****************

    Ashley called it a woo woo. LOL. I always like hoo hah, myself.

  218. Lug, I think you misunderstood what you saw. Those are sites that Drew has supposedly been visiting. Ashley’s is still the same. 😀

  219. Yes I can imagine the court call now:

    Case number blah blah blah
    Miss Spread M. Wide vs Ashley

    Miss Spread M. Wide, can you please prove to the court that it is in fact you in that pic?

    Yes, drop your drawers and up and over please.

    And you say this has harmed you how?

  220. hoo hoo?
    woo woo?
    hoo hah?

    Do I need to go read something in Ashley’s comment section to know what you guys are talking about??

  221. Well, time for bed for me folks. Hope you all have a good day tomorrow! Back to painting the kitchen in the a.m. and will check in. Think I will back off posting at Ashley’s site. Too much going on anyhow. I just hope she is getting counsel and knows what she is doing. Playing with fire can get pretty hot! In the meantime, I’m starting to get really irate at the ISP for taking their good ol’ time and not arresting Drew. I’m sure they have plenty for probable cause that they can lock him away and get their act together for the trial. Ohhhh. Anyhow. Wishful hoping.

  222. hedidit // July 6, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Yes I can imagine the court call now:

    Case number blah blah blah
    Miss Spread M. Wide vs Ashley

    Miss Spread M. Wide, can you please prove to the court that it is in fact you in that pic?

    Yes, drop your drawers and up and over please.

    And you say this has harmed you how?
    _______________________

    LOL! I needed a good laugh before bed! Thanks, HeDidIt. Too funny.

  223. basherette // July 6, 2008 at 12:25 am

    “nether parts”, cfs…
    +++++++++++++

    Oh, well it a tootie for me.

    Thanks Bash 😀

  224. cfs – no. Just find that Super Secret Decoder Book I keep telling you guys I lost. Then, maybe we will finally figure this out.

    hoo, woo, hah!

  225. cfs7360 // July 6, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Oh, well it a tootie for me.
    ****************************

    I have a German friend who calls it that – heh.

  226. cfs7360 // July 6, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Lug, I think you misunderstood what you saw. Those are sites that Drew has supposedly been visiting. Ashley’s is still the same.
    ——————————-

    oh ok ,, i have one that says justice soon for kathleen and stacy , and the link i have goes to the one you posted , of ashleys blog,.

    or does she have a sep one from that link ya posted .. the one I had was ————

    it’s cool the kids think she on vacation but goes to the link ya posted … so is it hers or is that nude site ashleys caus I seen her post at bottom of those links ya posted . hope Iam not confusing ya lol….

  227. facsmiley // July 6, 2008 at 12:32 am

    cfs7360 // July 6, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Oh, well it a tootie for me.
    ****************************

    I have a German friend who calls it that – heh.
    ++++++++++++
    Facs, I don’t have a clue where that came from, but probably from my mother, and maybe hers before her. Just never thought about it. Just a traditional thing I guess, but our ancestors came here from England in 1639, so what does that tell you? Nothing?

  228. ok never mind I don’t want to read that iky site lol… just rather chit chat with all of you ….

    does anyone know if they did any searches this weekend as of yet??? to find her… I hope she is found soon as wwell as the others..

  229. basherette // July 6, 2008 at 12:28 am

    or a Walla Walla, Washington… 😉

    lmao!!!

    THAT was one of the FIRST things I thought of when I saw little miss sunshine and her VA JJ

    “ooooooh Bash is gonna love this! she’s showing off her Walla Walla Washington for all the world to see!”

    wonder how much Drew will shell out on that little number?

    barf!

    the idea that he even has a penis makes me want to puke!

  230. Hi guys, I haven’t been to ashley’s yet. I have heard that she is starting a new smf forum, well as long as anon / guests are allowed to post there like they do at her current board I won’t be a part of any conversations there. The “open” blog is too crazy and full of hate. Innocent people being dragged through the mud is unnecessary.

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