Your Thread – July 8

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  1. Goodnight all…having computer monitor problems. Glad to see Ashley returned.
    Hope everyone has a great evening !

  2. letthetruthbefree // July 7, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    cfs –

    I understand what you are saying, I really do.

    But she has crossed a line, and it’s gone beyond her original mission.

    In my eyes, not that it makes any difference, she is just as sleazy as Drew.

    And how do we even know she is completely honest?
    ______________

    LTTBF, I agree with you 100%. So here is my famous “novel length” post:

    I think people are giving Ashley far too much credit for being creative and ballsy. Fact is, there is a lot to this that anyone with decency would have done differently. Let me outline some of my thoughts on why I do not believe her and she has lost credibility with me.

    1. Her post when she stated “even if a retard wins the special olympics he stills comes out a retard” was being downright wrong and an example of the kind of person I see as “nasty”. Her refusal to admit that it was wrong was a further example of her character.

    2. I believe she did have conversations with Drew, however, I also believe she sought him out. I do not believe it was an “accidental meeting.”

    3. Those who are close to the family of Stacy and friends of Stacy have the means to have known Drew’s email address and more than probably his screen name. Hence is why I believe Ashley decided to draw Drew into a game.

    4. I believe Drew fell for it hook-line-and sinker. What does not make sense is her comments that she has “kept every post from the very start.” I can understand keeping posts once she found out it was Drew, however, I find it hard to believe he introduced himself as DP and she immediately began copying posts.

    5. I am almost inclined to believe that the receipt is a fake, as well. I also believe being that Ashley has his IP address and his email address that she simply could have fabricated many of the items that were posted.

    6. If the conversations were not manipulated, then Drew is quite the dummy. A lot of Ashley’s statements come across as harsh and cold and Drew looks for vulnerable women. Not strong willed women.

    7. IF , and this is a big IF, it was as she said…..why wouldn’t she have taken all this straight to the ISP? Instead decides to post it all on the internet.

    8. No possible way am I to believe she has a top notch attorney. Else she would not have posted this trail of stuff online. Any attorney would have advised her to take it straight to the ISP.

    9. No possible way do I believe she ever had any intentions to take this to the ISP or the police.

    10. She is not leading Drew on….not as much as she is leading the public on. Hence is her purpose. For some kind of spotlight. Then proceeds to open up a forum next.

    11. Says she won’t tolerate posting bad things in the forum….but it’s ok to post bad things in the blog? Doesn’t make sense. If you want to bash you can do it on the blog, just not the forum. (????)

    12. A simple yes, I’m female would have sufficed. Height and weight wasn’t a necessary response…..unless one wanted to try and exaggerate the answer to gain credibility.

    13. Her taunting of “wait till I come out and you all see who I am” is another clear indicator that she is someone who was associated with FSP or other blogs, sites…..and of course she denied that too. I don’t believe she will ever divulge her identity.

    Thus, from my point of view…she has no credibility, no morals, no care towards what is legal or not to be posted, (women’s faces who may not even be their own faces on that sex site), removing items from websites that clearly have disclaimers, no adherence towards rules….so I cannot for the life of me see how some very good people are supporting her actions?

    She talks about DP being up till all hours while the children sleep and “whose going to watch the kids in the morning”….when she hereself, according to her posts, kept him up in her chats. She posts what she wants the net to believe.

    Personally, I think she is dispicable and I do not support a single thing that she has done. Any good person who would be in the situation that she said occured would have kept their mouth shut and ran this stuff straight to the ISP.

    Ok. The end.

  3. Good morning.

    Grandma210 – I think Freedom took a break for a while because there were some trolls around recently, and she wasn’t comfortable with what was going on. Maybe she reads here and will come back soon.

  4. I saw this posted at Lorie’s forum this morning. I don’t remember seeing it before (it was a comment at Greta’s) so am copying it here.

    ***********************************
    Comment by Margaret from Bolingbrook
    November 13th, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11/13/just-in-big-development-in-the-sgt-peterson-stacy-peterson-story/all-comments/#comments

    Greta- When I was in high school we lived next door to the Petersons on Seminole Ln in Bolingbrook. At the time, Drew was a K-9 officer.

    Our dog, a shepherd and his dog used to run side by side along our back fences. This used to piss Drew off so bad, because it wore away the grass that he would beat his dog. It was not uncommon for my mother to be yelling at him from the back window to stop beating his dog.

    On one occasion his wife appeared in the front of the house crying and with a black eye. She had two teenage sons and they both were very quiet and kept to themselves.

    My father (also a cop) gave Drew permission to “watch” me and if he saw me on the streets or with my friends to send me home, which he did on only one occasion. He was then as you see him now on TV, Sunglasses, No smiling or reactions. Just stone cold.

    Subsequently, I went on to do my inernship with the Bolingbrook Police Dept. and became a Police Officer in Chicago.

    People knew this man was an abuser, but there is a Code when you are a cop to never tell on another cop. Police protect eachother. No one in my neighborhood, my parents included called the Police on Drew when he beat his wife or dog. Back then, you just kept quiet. Im sure that is why his wife’s death was called “accidental”…..

  5. lavanda i agree her saying her height & weight was kinda weird. & i think she kept him up many nites in more ways than one lol. i think she sought him out also it didnt just happen.

  6. Lavonda – I’ve read your post, and you make some very good points. We could discuss, point for point, all of your comments, but that is not what I intend to do. Speaking strictly for myself, I am not here to defend or support Ashley in what she’s done and how she’s done it. I merely look at what she’s done and take it for it’s face value – she’s exposed Drew Peterson as a flat-out, bold-faced liar, and, through his lawyer, he continues to deny everything, as he usually does. Drew Peterson is fair game when it comes to this characterization stuff. He out-and-out staged his life to look like a Disney movie, and she’s shown that to be blatantly untrue.

    I take issue with your comment, “so I cannot for the life of me see how some very good people are supporting her actions?”

    You are not the first one to make a comment like that here. However, while I can rationalize how and why you feel what she’s done is wrong, and that you have every right to express that, I would no more make a statement to you or anyone else that implies you are a “good” person who is doing a “bad” thing by supporting something that is contrary to MY beliefs!

    I may disagree with some on here who preach to the rest of us that Drew Peterson is innocent until proven guilty. Yes, that is absolutely true. He is. I agree with that 100%. But merely because I have reached a different place in my thinking about his lack of innocence, or that I am not openly criticizing and downplaying what Ashley has done by using questionable methods to expose him as something other than what he professes, does not make me a “bad” person!!!

    I believe that we’re merely expressing our feelings and opinions, formed in our own way, and aren’t looking for any moral or sensitivity counseling on a blog such as this.

    I totally agree with the concept of judge, jury and trial! I’m just not in compliance with the jury standards on this one. I do not like Drew Peterson, I take issue with his lack of human feelings for the memories of his late wives, and I haven’t seen one piece of credible information that points to someone other than him as being a suspect in the fate of either of his wives. I enjoy the thought of him squirming at these revelations by Ashley. Doesn’t mean I agree with her methods or how she’s handling this. I’m just enjoying the show!

    Okay????

  7. Rescue, another echo of my sentiments. Good job!

    While I understand that we all will never agree on everything, some of us do agree on some things, and I share Rescue’s opinion on this. Thanks again for writing what I feel in a better way than I probably could have. 😀

  8. Well, CFS, it’s like this. I think the pros and cons are fantastic, and that’s what it’s all about.

    I think the open personal characterizations of each other needs to take a hike!

  9. Rescue – well said!

    I was thinking last night about the comments some have made about him viewing porn online, and how that isn’t unusual.

    It’s true – plenty of men and women enjoy viewing quality smut online. Some even do it together.

    But there’s a difference between pornography and a dating site. You go to a porn site for viewing pleasure. You go to a dating site to meet people. The fact that Drew belonged to at least one Internet dating site as early as 2005 strongly indicates that he was actively looking for other partners before Stacy’s disappearance. That is going to look very bad for him if it’s allowed in court.

  10. For the record, I support the american legal system and I believe that Drew Peterson deserves the right to a fair trial where he is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

    On a personal level, taking into account all I have read and seen, I don’t like the man and I don’t believe him. Anything that takes his cocky arrogance down a notch is fine with me. I don’t think much of his lawyer either and it gives me pleasure to see the man stutter and stammer during interviews. I enjoy every media misstep these two make.

    If it was a set-up or accidental, whether Ashley is a man or a woman, lives in Illinois or Angola doesn’t make a difference to me. I like what she’s doing.

    IMO

  11. Facs, Let said last night that she was going to contact the ISP herself. Don’t know if she meant the Internet Service Provider or the Illinois State Police, but at any rate, wouldn’t you think the ISPolice are already aware of the things on Ashley’s blog? It seems to me if hackers that get into big corporations, or Internet servers can be traced, Ashley could as well. Maybe they’re trying, I don’t know. Maybe it takes a little while. Or maybe they’re just letting her display her goods hoping to get some kind of response from Drew and Joel. I don’t know that either. However, it does seem strange that she’s been able to stay hidden this long.

  12. 😀
    I just want Ashley to post all she’s got because I’m not patient at all.

    But like so many others (who will admit it or not), I wait with anticipation on “What’s next.”

    And I did notice that Joel didn’t say that he wasn’t going to speak again on the subject of Ashley. Good move, Joel. IMO

  13. This is the Joel post. I was posted on earlier thread but it wasn’t clear that it was Joel (IMO).

    joelbrodsky
    Member

    member is offline

    Joined: May 2008
    Gender: Male
    Posts: 141
    Re: Ashley Blog Discussion
    « Reply #785 Yesterday at 9:56pm »

    ————————————————————
    The recent posts by “Ashley” with Drew’s supposed receipt and the other items are total frabrications. They were all created by her, and are fakes and forgeries. “Ashley” must have been up for days with photoshop or other such software creating them. (She got his IP from previous e-mails and used it to try to give some validity to the forgeries, but they are fakes)

  14. CFS – If LTTBF wants to contact the ISP about the receipt Ashley posted that has her so angry, if it works for her, then it’s the right thing to do! However, I honestly think that LE is every bit as interested in Ashley’s blog as the rest of us are, and I’m sure they’re blog-lookin’ right alongside of us.

    LE may be able to find out a lot of things, but I guess that magic satellite spy thingy in the sky hasn’t beamed down to them yet where Stacy is, Drew’s whereabouts during the time Stacy disappeared, and where Ashley is blogging from. That, I’m afraid, has to be done the old fashioned way. Investigating, gathering information, searching and scrutinizing, waiting for that one break!!!!! Heh?

  15. Noway , I do admire the way Brodsky has of posting his opinions as facts. I’m going to endeavor to adopt that mannerism and see if I can become completely unbearable in discussions at family get-togethers.

  16. Internet Proverb:

    He who types with a crooked finger can
    dodge a spear that comes in front of them
    but hard to keep harms away from an
    arrow shot from behind.

  17. Amanda, do you know for a fact that Ashley is a setup, or do you just believe that she is? I don’t doubt that she is either, but I don’t know for sure. Do you?

  18. Yes, I’m on the laptop. We’ll see how it goes.

    Looks like Amanda has already adopted that “post opinion as fact” … 😉

    And genegene, as always: WTH are you talking about?

  19. genegene // July 8, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Internet Proverb:

    He who types with a crooked finger can
    dodge a spear that comes in front of them
    but hard to keep harms away from an
    arrow shot from behind.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Unfortunately, that makes a ton of sense Genegene. Is it original? 😀

  20. A setup … as in she is lying about everything? I don’t think so.

    Or a setup as in “she didn’t just meet Drew by accident”? Now that I would agree with.

  21. genegene // July 8, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Internet Proverb:

    Do not want others to know what you have done? Better not have done it anyways.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    And that is a gem as well. You’re on a roll this morning. Giving up dancing for writing proverbs? 😀

  22. Noway, I don’t she’s lying about anything, but the whole thing may have been intentional to snag Drew is his lies.

  23. Genegene, that makes a hell of a lot more sense than this gem from BigM this morning on Ashley’s blog:

    “BigM said…
    Tip: Never Cash a check Your ass is not prepared to cash .”

  24. I wish the that the posters here that have concrete information wouldn’t be so cryptic. Why? If you know for a fact of what you speak and you don’t want to associate it with your nic, rename yourself, state your facts and we’ll digest it. Simple as that.

  25. He who types with a crooked finger can
    dodge a spear that comes in front of them
    but hard to keep harms away from an
    arrow shot from behind.
    ++++++++++
    Genegene, looks like I’m going to have to explain this the way I see it….
    You can defend yourself in front of a monitor while typing your words. However, someone may come up behind you and stab you in the back, unnoticed.

  26. Rescue, I think it’s often more that they have a strong suspicion or hunch than any inside information. They just don’t post it that way.

  27. facs, I think there is something behind the scenes with the post for BigM on Ashley’s and his reponses (on Ashley’s) which he posted and someone else posted for him.

    I just removed myself from the whole thing. I think it has more to do with the personal attacks on BigM, so I don’t want any part of it.

  28. Hoping Amanda would come back and clarify what she meant.

    I’ll be leaving in 10 minutes … back mid-afternoon or so.

  29. Rescue – isn’t that the strangest case? I hope there’s some closure for the family now that the body was recovered.

    As for the jury not ‘liking’ reiser, imagine how Drew will do on the stand. If he can’t lose that smug defensiveness, he’s not going to make any fans there either.

  30. Noway – I’ll bet you’re right about the BigM thing. I missed all that yesterday a.m. so it’s probably just as well!

  31. Facsmiley – I think that Drew has some serious character flaws and mental stability issues. I honestly believe Drew doesn’t think he did anything wrong. He encounters situations, he deals with them in his way, he moves on, and he attempts to carry on his life in what he thinks is a “normal” way. No one said the man is thinking clearly or has his head on straight. He may very well be in need of some serious (mental) medical intervention. I guess, in my way of thinking, until someone can determine that he has some serious mental issues, he’s going to have to be dealt with through the legal process, and that is gathering evidence, taking statements, hearing GJ testimony and issuing charges.

    As to KS’s death, they have a body, so the process of determining who made her dead is LE’s problem.

    As to SP’s disappearance, they may very well know there is a body, and who is responsible for her disappearance. They just don’t know where the body is yet, and they’re still working on the “who done it.”

  32. Rescue – if you Google ‘psychopath’ and/or ‘antisocial personality’ and take a look at a checklist of symptoms, DP appears to fit the bill.

  33. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 10:46 am

    cfs, thanks for the translation on that post.

    TVI
    +++++++++++
    I know Noway is off of here for now, but can anyone tell me what TVI means? :-S

  34. Rescue: You are not the first one to make a comment like that here. However, while I can rationalize how and why you feel what she’s done is wrong, and that you have every right to express that, I would no more make a statement to you or anyone else that implies you are a “good” person who is doing a “bad” thing by supporting something that is contrary to MY beliefs!

    _________________

    You’re correct. I’m sorry if my opinion came out that way. I sort of didn’t intend it to….and would not have meant that as it came out…I don’t look down on anyone who is supporting what Ashley is doing….I just don’t understand how anyone can support what she is doing. Hope that makes sense. Again, my apologies if I am coming across as closeminded, bias or snobbish…I don’t mean to be that way.

  35. Rescue: Hans Reiser was the guy convicted of killing his wife recently, although her body was never found. It was publicized that the jury just “didn’t like him,” and they brought back a guilty verdict.

    Well, guess what:

    Convicted killer Reiser leads police to wife’s body
    REISER WAS CONVICTED OF MURDERING WIFE

    http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9815170?source=most_viewed
    ____________________-

    Wow! how sad, but glad he came forward for closure. I hope Brodsky see’s this guilty verdict without a body.

  36. rescueapet // July 8, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Fair enough, Lavonda. No problem here. Thanks for clarifying that. I do appreciate it.
    _______________

    Sort of felt a little sick to my stomach when I read what you wrote because I honestly did not intend to insult anyone nor anyone’s opinion. I know my opinions are sometimes quite strong and I stand behind my post….and I do stand behind the “I can’t understand how anyone could support what she is doing when she is one nasty person”…but yet, you are right that is my opinion that she is a nasty person and my opinion shouldn’t HAVE to be everyone’s. But don’t for one second think that I am looking down on anyone that IS supporting her….I’m not. I just don’t “understand”. Does that make better sense?

  37. My OPINION is that Ashley is a setup.

    I would bet the farm. There are attacks she allows (BigM, Kimmer) and attacks she rapidly deletes (Smootchie’s name, address and family info).
    (just examples off the top of my head)

    Why would that be so?
    Think… think… think…

    Yes, noway. Ashley set out to do this.

    She has no credibility. Anyone with ACTUAL knowledge and wanted Drew to pay through the justice system would tell it to the cops.

    “Ashley-group” told it to the few of us psychos who still follow the stupid bullshit circus story.
    We lap it up like hungry kittens to their mama.

    Where the hell is the searching for STACY?
    Remember HER???

    That young mother who is buried God-knows-where?

    We gonna have to wait Reiser-like until sentencing? Yeah. But…. in Reiser, they had some blood.

    In Peterson, they have a horny old jackass who cannot possibly keep his pants zipped long enough to think with his brain.

    “Ashley-groups” make this guy a sitting duck…
    but do you think he is actually gonna tell on himself for “dates”?

    No. He is not.

  38. Lavonda – these are very intense issues going on, and many of us can get passionate in our opinions and beliefs. Doesn’t mean we can’t express them and feel comfortable doing so. There’s two sides to every point, and that’s what it’s all about.

    You have very eloquently eliminated any doubts of confusion! Really.

    ~ Rescue

  39. amandareckonwith // July 8, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Where the hell is the searching for STACY?
    Remember HER???
    *************************************

    I think most people believe at this point that she won’t be found by searching ( IMO, she’ll probably never be found). So, rather than beat the bushes with a stick, they are looking for info that might incriminate or damage Drew’s testimony.

    I think that it’s hard to keep the focus on the missing woman because…she’s missing. Wherever she is, she’s quiet.

    On the othe hand we have Drew, who is out and about, talking to people in person and online, and he may just say or do something that will have an impact on the case.

    So, I can understand why the emphasis isn’t on the missing woman. I don’t think she can lead us to herself…but maybe Drew can.

  40. Lavanda – BRAVO!!! I could not agree with your lengthy post more!!! Ultimately, this may come back to bite the prosecution, which is why she should have gone to the ISP in the first place.

    Like the jury said in the Riser case…”we didn’t like him.” Well, if that ain’t a tainted jury, don’t know what is. And it’s stuff like that blog that will get him out of charges faster than anything.

  41. DPeterson is like a windsock blowing in the wind! The more the wind blows, the more tattered the sock. If this is all wearing on him and breaking him down, then I’d say, IMHO, that isn’t such a bad thing. What is important is getting to the final place that means justice. He’s tried to expose his two wives as warty witches, who aren’t squeaky clean. Well, news flash, neither is he. At least he’s alive and can defend himself. It’s just that there’s proxies out there doing it for Kathleen and Stacy. Some may not like it, and there’s nothing wrong with thinking that way. Some may like it because it stirs up that wind and tatters that sock!!!!!

  42. Thanks for explaining Amanda. Don’t know nuthin bout no Ashley groups though. What IS an Ashley group??

    And yes, I can believe that this was a setup, but at this point, I don’t believe she is fabricating what she has, regardless of what Mr. Brodsky says. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen, and I for one just look at the “items” she posts, and don’t get involved in the madness in the comment section. People can, and will say anything there, especially as anonymous.

    As for who is searching for Stacy, I’m not. I don’t live close enough to, do you? Are you? I’m not going to criticize from my computer in another state who’s doing what to find Stacy when I don’t do anything myself but type out my opinions. Yes, I have donated, once, and that’s probably all I’m going to. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t applaud anyone who takes their time, energy, and effort to actually go out searching, or that I’m going to criticize anyone because I don’t if anyone is searching or not. Don’t care that much one way or the other because there’s not much I can do about what other people are doing or not doing. That’s just me. Others feel differently I’m sure, but I do pray for the families, especially the children, and I do hope she will be found eventually to be laid to rest with a proper burial, but my gut feeling is that she won’t be, unless the killer does what Reiser did and takes LE to the body, if there’s anything anywhere to take them to.

    Again, I’ve said many, many times on here that we all have our own opinions on everything and everyone involved in this case. I respect that, and will defend that for anyone. This is just my stance on the matter. If new things and new faces didn’t keep popping up all the time, the GJ might be able to conclude and go forward with this, but they can’t just ignore new information without investigating, so we that follow this may have to wait a lot longer than anyone every anticipated to see this resolved. Some of us will get weary of it and move on. Not sure that I will, but I guess it depends on what happens next. 😀

  43. I grew weary of the Ramsey case, after almost 12 yrs., I’m not discussing it anymore… it has all been said, IMO. I pray that does not happen with this case; I’m not comparing the cases at all, nothing is similar, except neither is solved.

  44. In this country we consider ourselves to be very humane, not heathens, but law-abiding grateful citizens. Obviously, not all of us, huh?

  45. Oh Grandma, I don’t think I could follow this one very closely for 12 years. My husband would probably divorce me for one thing, and another is I probably WILL be in a nursing home by then, lol.

  46. I’ve wondered myself…..Will SP ever be found, Sometimes I wish there was a “real” truth serum so we could force people into telling the truth…….sigh……..Oh but a girl can dream right??

  47. I read what she said…but thanks for clearing that up.

    Let me clear this up…I was reitterating what was said. Let’s not be so quick to take people to the whipping post.

  48. Who is whipping anyone? I thought your post was a bit snippy, but I understand … my post was OT in the first place (or not). Just a comment or observation.

  49. If there were such an injection; perhaps with reasonable evidence it could be court ordered to be adminstered – like a paternity test or a search warrant.

  50. Three people jumped on my comment…bet a different nick wouldn’t have garnered that response…just saying. That’s the thing…it’s the internet, you can’t determine inflection…

    Never said your post was OT. I had the very same observations as you, and stated suck

  51. kimmer78 // July 8, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    I read what she said…but thanks for clearing that up.

    Let me clear this up…I was reitterating what was said. Let’s not be so quick to take people to the whipping post.
    +++++++++++++++++

    kimmer78 // July 8, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Ramsey case? That is not even CLOSE to this case. Not.in.any.way.shape.or.form.

    ++++++++++++++
    Calm down Kimmer. It just sounded to Grandma and I that you missed the “nothing is similar part. But I see what you’re saying…that it’s not CLOSE in any way, shape or form. We got it, and we knew it, but thanks for explaining your post. I just hope this case doesn’t take 12 years to get solved, even though it looks as though the Ramsey case may never be solved. Hopefully, one day it will for all concerned.

  52. Well, if it had been anyone else, I would have said the same thing Kimmer. I don’t make it a habit to ever pick on anyone for anything. Just state my opinions, as you do. And yes, sometimes it’s hard to read the correct emotion into a typed word. Thank goodness for smileys! 😀

  53. Lavanda – BRAVO!!! I could not agree with your lengthy post more!!! Ultimately, this may come back to bite the prosecution, which is why she should have gone to the ISP in the first place.

    Like the jury said in the Riser case…”we didn’t like him.” Well, if that ain’t a tainted jury, don’t know what is. And it’s stuff like that blog that will get him out of charges faster than anything.
    ________________

    Kimmer, OMG. I know what you mean. I have discovered something in that blog of hers that if I were Brodsky I would use it to the hilt. I am not about to post it in any public forum to help him out. I will PM you.

  54. I can never do those chats…my killer combo of Vista and AVG spanks me if I even think of the word Java.

  55. cfs7360 // July 8, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Oh Grandma, I don’t think I could follow this one very closely for 12 years. My husband would probably divorce me for one thing, and another is I probably WILL be in a nursing home by then, lol.
    _______________-

    LOL. Then you and I would be roommates! ROFL~ our hubbies will be sports buddies and popping in to see us out of respect! LOL

  56. My BF already get’s that blank “I’m humoring you, dear” look on his face when I try to discuss the case with him. But, I’m sure I do the same when he tries to tell me about some baseball thing so…

  57. Facsmiley – I try to avoid my laptop at all costs! It drives me nuts, LOL! I’m here though, on my trusty desktop. 🙂

  58. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    My BF already get’s that blank “I’m humoring you, dear” look on his face when I try to discuss the case with him. But, I’m sure I do the same when he tries to tell me about some baseball thing so…
    +++++++++++
    I get the same darn look, followed by a head shake and occasional eye roll.

  59. Sounds like a deal Lavanda, but you’d have to move South. I can’t handle all that cold weather and snow up there where you are. 😀

  60. Well guys, these men in our lives (at least mine is) are probably all sitting in front of the TV with their “clicker ” going from channel to channel while we’re engrossed in our discussions on the computer. I can’t see much difference, can you? A screen is a screen, and at least we’re thinking and not transfixed on something make believe…..well most of the time anyway. And I can’t stand to watch TV when someone is changing the channel every couple of minutes, so I don’t watch it much at all. In fact, I never turn it on, but that’s usually one of the first things my husband does when he walks in the door from work, especially in the fall and winter.

    As far as discussing this case, he won’t listen either, but always wants to know what I’m doing on the computer. If he would listen to me talk about it, maybe I wouldn’t be on the computer so much talking to you guys. 😀

  61. No “He” in my life except the one that created me. I don’t get “The Look”… and the remote is mine, all mine!

  62. In April he writes, “Guess who I might get a date with as a publicity stunt? Britney Spears…a night on the town in Chicago.”

    Peterson’s publicist Glen Selig says that Peterson did exchange emails with the woman, but says it was all innocent flirting and the in the end Ashley wanted more — which Drew couldn’t give her.

    “No, he is not going to be set-up with Britney Spears. I mean he’s Drew, he’s a jokester,” Selig says.

  63. Apropos of nothing, just thought I’d share that “getting all the duck’s information” (Larry King interview) has become a running gag around my house, points scored for its imaginative, surprising or particularly amusing introduction into conversation.

    anyone 4 tea?

  64. cfs7360 // July 8, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Sounds like a deal Lavanda, but you’d have to move South. I can’t handle all that cold weather and snow up there where you are.
    _______________

    Oh we would have a problem then. I love the winter, snow, mountains. I hate heat, sweating and bugs!

  65. Hi pamom (can I call you “ish”? lol)

    It’s not unknown for someone to say something in earnest hen claim it was a joke when it backfires.

  66. cfs7360 // July 8, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Well guys, these men in our lives (at least mine is) are probably all sitting in front of the TV with their “clicker ” going from channel to channel
    ______________-

    Exactly the same here. If he is not out deep sea fishing, he is watching sports and flipping to another sport at the same time….in the same room as I.

  67. Finally, someone has picked up the Ashley story:

    http://www.wbbm780.com/Drew-Peterson-And-Britney-Spears–/2558011

    Drew Peterson and Britney Spears??

    CHICAGO (WBBM) — While the search for Stacy Peterson continues, Drew Peterson has been busy exchanging romantic e-mails on a chat room claiming he is going to be set up with a disgraced pop star.

    READ THE EXCHANGES HERE

    WBBM’s Mary Frances Bragiel reports.
    The series of e-mails made public between Peterson and a woman named Ashley begin in March…with Peterson writing “How much broken glass do I need to crawl through to get a date with you?”

    Ashley writes “a date? When and where?”

    In April he writes, “Guess who I might get a date with as a publicity stunt? Britney Spears…a night on the town in Chicago.”

  68. I will say this one thing. If that receipt is real, what is JB doing posting on message boards, when he should be at the police station filing charges to protect his client, something smells funny.
    Cyber-stalking is a crime.
    What is someone getting out of all this activity?

  69. “Peterson’s publicist Glen Selig says that Peterson did exchange emails with the woman, but says it was all innocent flirting and the in the end Ashley wanted more — which Drew couldn’t give her. ”

    Yeah, you can tell she wants more from that one Internet exchange where she tells him to go back to his Internet whores. 😉

  70. pamom40ish – I wonder about Internet stalking and privacy laws, but Ashley always says not to worry about her – that she’s got her ass covered.

    How do you (any of you) think that’s possible?

    Wonderwoman – do you wonder?

  71. Ya know, I’m sick of hearing from the Peterson camp how all of the women that passed through Drew’s life are the ones that were dumped, dropped, banned, scorned, found dead and lost.

    The game is over. He’s cried wolf way too many times. No one is going to buy it anymore. Not even the people who don’t blog and follow all of this.

    Times up.

  72. facsmiley,
    That’s my point, something is up here.

    Who would want all the IPS and email addresses that Ashley is collecting, plus all the negative remarks.

  73. I will say that some parts of that receipt look like someone actually cut/pasted … so maybe Ashley got tooked as far as the authenticity of the receipt?

    Hope she trusts the someone who faxed it to her.

  74. “No, he is not going to be set-up with Britney Spears. I mean he’s Drew, he’s a jokester,” Selig says.

    ++++++++++++++

    So he thought it was a joke to lie to Ashley about getting set up with Britney. Amazing. I guess to some people being a liar and a jokester are one in the same.

  75. pamom40ish // July 8, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    facsmiley,
    That’s my point, something is up here.

    Who would want all the IPS and email addresses that Ashley is collecting, plus all the negative remarks.
    ___________
    Maybe this is Brodsky’s way of collecting IPs. He started a page that would definitely get the anti-Drew people interested … and now he is comparing those with the death threat emails Drew has been receiving . 😉

  76. IMO, I can see JB dragging as many people as he can into court to PROVE his client has been harassed and stalked. He wants DP to look like the victim.

    Legaly he may not have been able to get names and IPs from FSP site. So, can anyone think of another way to collect IPs and emails to certain screen names, that have said certain bad things about DP?

  77. noway406,
    Can you imagine ISP letting this go on, I can’t!!!

    ITA with you, I think he will be having a blast getting revenge on certain screen names, IMO.

    Think about the two of them, can you tell me they wouldn’t?

  78. All I can say is THIS POSTER, that posted on Ashley’s blog…….has to win the best post of the year award. He/She said
    ____________________

    “Anonymous said…
    that xxxx Joel wants to talk about forgerys he needs to talk about the wills and the power of atty document he forged when he signed KS name and then notary republiced it himself because you need a witness and Kathleen wasnt there

    July 7, 2008 11:57 PM
    _________________

  79. Didn’t I read on Ashley’s that someone stated that they were going to either the media or the police with Ashley’s stuff? I skim over so much there, I couldn’t tell ya when it was posted, but I know it was probably posted by ‘Anonymous’ … Lol!

  80. Maybe this is Brodsky’s way of collecting IPs. He started a page that would definitely get the anti-Drew people interested … and now he is comparing those with the death threat emails Drew has been receiving .

    _________________

    A very good possibility. Albeit, I will say if this Chicago article gets to Nancy Grace or Greta….I believe Ashley’s secret days will be over. They will hound till they find her/him.

  81. pamom40ish // July 8, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Legaly he may not have been able to get names and IPs from FSP site. So, can anyone think of another way to collect IPs and emails to certain screen names, that have said certain bad things about DP?
    ********************

    Welllllll, if the info wasn’t gathered legally then he couldn’t use any of it in court.

  82. grandma210 // July 8, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Didn’t I read on Ashley’s that someone stated that they were going to either the media or the police with Ashley’s stuff? I skim over so much there, I couldn’t tell ya when it was posted, but I know it was probably posted by ‘Anonymous’ … Lol!
    _______________

    No. I believe it was posted by LTTBF and on here? Am I correct all? And kudos to her if she does. This stuff belonged to the ISP, in my opinion, from the get-go. Not on the world wide web.

  83. I rarely post any more, I just felt I had to share my feelings. I have warned all my close friends not to post on those sites or signup with similar screen names(emails) as we have used on other forum. The only reason I am posting now is to warn a few people I like, that I had never gotten their email addys, the rest of the loons deserve what they get.

    Hey, I could be wrong, but come on, it doesn’t make a lick of sense to me.
    Furthermore, if it would be true, would it be a good idea to have people setting up a potential suspect and muddying the water in court?

  84. Oh Lavanda, Joel has forged more than that! Remember he forged a client’s signature in order to withdraw money from the guy’s bank account. He did actually have a fairly good explanation for why he did it, but it was still completely illegal. He was fined for it.

  85. If they can’t use it in court, what is the purpose in obtaining it? These dogs are chasing their tails, again.

  86. Yeah, I think from this point out the whole Ashley thing is gonna change. Unless people are as bored with the case as my BF seems to be.

  87. grandma210 // July 8, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    If they can’t use it in court, what is the purpose in obtaining it? These dogs are chasing their tails, again.
    *********************************

    That’s why I kinda doubt it’s DP/Brodsky.

  88. That said, I still don’t understand Ashley’s breezy attitude towards any possible legal actions against her.

    I just thought of a reason but….nawwww…

  89. facsmiley,
    Right now all he has to do is press charges and get everything legaly.

    If you own a site, you own all the info it provides.

  90. I’m here grandma210. I’m just reading. The current train of thought is not something I choose to get in on. Totally disagree with it! Got nothing to add or subtract.

  91. facsmiley,
    I just don’t want anyone caught up in this web. When this all shakes out, I sure would be upset if someone was found not-guilty. The more mud they have to throw on the walls, the better the chances of him getting off.

  92. rescueapet // July 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    I’m here grandma210. I’m just reading. The current train of thought is not something I choose to get in on. Totally disagree with it! Got nothing to add or subtract.
    ++++++++++++++
    I’m trying to digest this too, but my thought is the ISP and the FBI are already aware of these boards and blogs, and they are reading them as we comment. How could not already know about Ashley’s blogs from reading others they already knew about where she was being discussed. I really think contacting LE is a moot point, and I give them way more credit than that. Do you all really think they’re in the dark on this, and regardless of who Ashley is, be it the “real” Ashley, or JB and DP, or a triad of people, I really believe they are aware and investigating. Mainly because, why wouldn’t they???

  93. No, grandma, that’s not what I meant. I meant the convo regarding the Ashley website being Brodsky’s doing.

    You totally misunderstood what I meant.

  94. Okay, let’s back up here. Isn’t pamom40ish trying to make a point by saying Brodsky set this all up, and he’s trying to capture everyone’s IP/screenname, so that he can compare it to death threats made against his client via email?

    Or, am I imagining things?????

  95. I don’t think it is Brodsky’s doing, I just think he will take full advantage of it. I don’t think he is the puppet-master.

    Ok, I will go back to my lurking, now.

  96. Yes Rescue – that’s what I’m getting. At first I was thinking that she meant he grabbed the IPs with some program, but now I see what she means.

    Technically, the site isn’t theproperty of the person who set it up. It’s hosted for free by Blogspot, so you’d want to find out what their Terms and Conditions say about gathering IPs.

  97. pamom40ish – I’m sorry, I am totally confused by what you set out to say, with all due respect.

    Could you please reiterate what you mean? What and how is Brodsky gathering, then, from a site that he is not in control of? I’m not following any of this.

  98. Same with the forum site. That isn’t ‘Ashley’s’ domain and she isn’t paying for the hosting either. The site technically belongs to Simple Machines and she signed on there under their Terms and Conditions. Once more you’d need to know what their terms say about gathering and using the info of the people who go there.

  99. pamom40ish // July 8, 2008 at 1:47 pm
    The only reason I am posting now is to warn a few people I like, that I had never gotten their email addys, the rest of the loons deserve what they get.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Rescue, you are fairly accurate in your assumption. however, I think Pam is just expressing her opinion on this as a possibility of why LE hasn’t acted against Ashley, and why she hasn’t been found out or shut down. My contention is that they know already, and are working on finding her, or they are just waiting a bit to see what’s she going to put out there next. JB and DP are not smart enough to have come up with this themselves, in my opinion, but I understand if others think differently. Furthermore Pam, I know you weren’t directing this to anyone in particular, but I want to state here and now that I for one, am not a loon. 😀

  100. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    If this is all Joel in drag, what’s the point?
    ****************

    I THINK the point was that if DP/JB set up a phony site that attacked Drew, they could gather up the IPs of people who visited (and email addresses on the forum) and then use them to make harrassment or stalking charges against the people who said unkind things.

  101. Let me state that I was the one who asked the question about why Ashley is so seemingly unconcerned about any legal actions that Drew might take (about the dating site receipt in particular). I threw the question out there because I’m sincerely baffled by it…and wondered if anyone had an opinion.

  102. CFS, I agree that they have probably been aware of Ashley’s activities for awhile. I hope so, at least. I have stated before that I think they are scouring the net looking for anything of interest.

  103. grandma210 – no problem! It gets a little complicated in here, especially when there’s a lot of blogging going on, LOL. 🙂

    Okay, here’s what I’m thinking. Ashley may be every bit as computer savvy as she’s making herself out to be. She’s able to hide under Harry Potter’s invisible cloak, I guess.

    The blog site she’s using, I assume, can be stopped, for lack of a better word, if Mr. Man (LE) decides it should be.

    So, assuming they can’t find her identity yet, why would they stop her from posting things that might be productive in leads of some sort. Things he said that would make sense to them, but no one else?

    Have I said that right???? Because, I don’t know what we’re talking about anymore, to tell you the truth!

  104. I believe I know who is behind it all, I don’t think it is JB. I have one of those feelings that makes your hair stand on end.

    Think about this.

    Cassandra and family/friends would have know DPs screen names.

    Let’s say for a second he did kill 2 woman, would that man that has gotten away with it be so stupid as to troll the net for girls with names that people wanting to see him in jail know?

    What is wrong with anything she has posted? Tell me one thing that would make it into a murder trial, you are only seeing parts of things, not the whole thing. IMO

  105. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Let me state that I was the one who asked the question about why Ashley is so seemingly unconcerned about any legal actions that Drew might take (about the dating site receipt in particular). I threw the question out there because I’m sincerely baffled by it…and wondered if anyone had an opinion.
    ++++++++++++++
    Duly noted, credit given. 😀

  106. facs, I don’t understand her attitude of being ‘untouchable’ either. That’s why I asked if she could possibly be out of the country. It seems that she doesn’t care if they do find her because they can’t touch her.

  107. So, here are some theories:

    1. LE is aware of Ashley’s doings and she’s under their protection

    2. The site is actually run by Brodsky/Drew in order to bait folks into giving up their IPs and email addresses

    More?

    3. Ashley has good legal counsel and doesn’t take a step with out consulting the legality of what she does – even though she’s close to the line

    4. Ashley has fled to Canada where she is learning French and not locking her door at night

    5. She just doesn’t give a rat’s ass and figures any trouble she may get into is worth it

    More?

  108. cfs7360 // July 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I threw the question out there because I’m sincerely baffled by it…and wondered if anyone had an opinion.
    ++++++++++++++
    Duly noted, credit given.

    *********************

    I just didn’t want anyone to get jumped on for throwing out some far-out theory. I asked to hear them! 🙂

  109. pamom40ish // July 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Tell me one thing that would make it into a murder trial, you are only seeing parts of things, not the whole thing. IM
    ***************************************

    I’ve said it before. The fact that he belonged to a dating site for quite a while before his wife went missing could be admissable. We’ve seen that sort of testimony in husband/wife murder trials before.

  110. skyward1 // July 8, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Kimmer, if you around why did I get banned from your site?
    +++++++++
    You’re welcome here any time Skyward.

  111. facsmiley,
    I’ve said it before. The fact that he belonged to a dating site for quite a while before his wife went missing could be admissable. We’ve seen that sort of testimony in husband/wife murder trials before.
    ——————

    That doesn’t prove anything. he ould have joined on a 2 week free trial, then signed up, there were no dates on that would lead me to believe ha was on there until Feb 2008.

    Saying that, I just hope whatever this is puts something in motion.

    What is the date and info on that hearsay law?

  112. No Pam, that in itself doesn’t prove anything, but there might be something on those hard drives that LE kept out of his computers they confiscated….you never know. Since they didn’t give the original drives back, that leads me to believe something was being analyzed.

  113. cfs7360,
    What I found interesting is that JB confirmed a missing laptop.
    I don’t remember that ever being stated before.

    I believe as soon as that hearsay rule gets passed LE will move in and make an arrest.

  114. skyward1 // July 8, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Kimmer, if you around why did I get banned from your site?
    ++++++++++++++++
    I’m having some issues with users with IP’s from Canada putting my personal information out on other sites. Once the issue is corrected, I’ll re-instate the account.

  115. cfs7360,
    lol, I wonder if he just hid that, maybe it was just Stacy’s and he hid it, just incase. He wouldn’t know if she has a secret diary in her laptop.

  116. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    If this is all Joel in drag, what’s the point?
    ****************

    I THINK the point was that if DP/JB set up a phony site that attacked Drew, they could gather up the IPs of people who visited (and email addresses on the forum) and then use them to make harrassment or stalking charges against the people who said unkind things.
    __________
    I called him (Drew) a yahoo.

    😀

    Come visit me in jail. 😉

  117. cfs7360 // July 8, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Just unfortunate a laptop went missing for some reason, reagrdless of who it belonged to.
    ____________
    Don’t ya hate when that happens?

    I think I got my own laptop issue a little more organized now. 😉

  118. Look, if nothing else, Drew Peterson has one big PR problem right now. And, it’s a major concern for his defense team. If it wasn’t there would have been no reason to even hire a PR agency in the first place, rehabilitate a tarnished image, and continue to issue press releases that attempt to paint DP in a favorable light.

    Whether Ashley set him up or didn’t, really doesn’t matter right know, IMO. Maybe her chats aren’t worthy of a court of law, maybe they are, but you can’t erase the thought behind it all! The thing has legs now, it’s in the mainstream news, and he’s being promoted as an Internet-chatting womanizer/liar, while his four children are left to deal with the disappearance and possible death of Stacy Peterson. Maybe I’m reaching here, but Ashley did a whole lot of damage to Drew Peterson publicly than meets the eye.

    Geesh, if someone could point out one thing, just one thing, that helps DP with these revelations, I’d love to hear it. But, I’m betting the potential jury pool DP tried to grab with his Mr. Mom video is dwindling fast, and he’s squirming!

  119. http://www.wbbm780.com/Drew-Peterson-And-Britney-Spears–/2558011

    Ashley’s website is linked to this article…DP makes the news again.
    Drew Peterson and Britney Spears??

    CHICAGO (WBBM) — While the search for Stacy Peterson continues, Drew Peterson has been busy exchanging romantic e-mails on a chat room claiming he is going to be set up with a disgraced pop star.

    READ THE EXCHANGES HERE

    WBBM’s Mary Frances Bragiel reports.
    The series of e-mails made public between Peterson and a woman named Ashley begin in March…with Peterson writing “How much broken glass do I need to crawl through to get a date with you?”

    Ashley writes “a date? When and where?”

    In April he writes, “Guess who I might get a date with as a publicity stunt? Britney Spears…a night on the town in Chicago.”

    Peterson’s publicist Glen Selig says that Peterson did exchange emails with the woman, but says it was all innocent flirting and the in the end Ashley wanted more — which Drew couldn’t give her.

    “No, he is not going to be set-up with Britney Spears. I mean he’s Drew, he’s a jokester,” Selig says.

    Peterson a former Bolingbrook police sergeant has been named as the only suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife – 23-year-old Stacy Peterson. She vanished Oct. 23, 2007.

    The state police have classified the case a “potential homicide.” Peterson has also been linked to the death of his third wife Kathleen Savio, who was found dead in a bathtub.

    Peterson has not been charged in either case and maintains his innocence.

  120. Pam, I don’t know if he hid, or if it was not returned to him by LE. Just know a laptop ws missing. Originally, I thought it was part of the story of Stacy leaving, but a laptop wasn’t mentioned as one of the things she took, so I don’t know. Sounds like LE may have just kept it, but I don’t know that for sure either. Anyone? Bash?

  121. LOL, CFS. I guess this all can be picked apart ad naseum, about it being legal, admissible, right, wrong, moral, immoral, and everything else that’s been thrown out here, but ya can’t take back the written word now.

    Now, if we could just get JB to comment on what the CT Attorney General has to say about the accusations he forwarded to them regarding Mr. Phelps and his interview with DP/JB/GS, I’m up for that!

  122. CFS – I think Bash said the laptop is a gray area. Not really all that much info about it verified.

  123. The laptop was missing in that LE never took it when they confiscated various items.

    Family members (I took to mean Cass) told LE there was a laptop … Cass and Stacy had used it … maybe the day before she went missing?

  124. rescueapet,

    I am not sure about all of it, but when that receipt was put up, it sent alarm bells off in my head.

    Selig calls DP a jokester today.
    Tomorrow, Ashley puts up the missing parts of the chats, all showing DP was talking about dreams he had. All they need is a “You have been punked” message on the screenshots. IMO, I just don’t know, like I said, just be careful, if you don’t post harmful stuff, no worries.

  125. Missing Apple Computer Laptop
    at 6 Pheasant Chase Drive, Bolingbrook
    Search Warrant Page 1 of 13 (Although only 3 pages were released)
    __________
    Search warrants 10/31, 11/01, and 11/6. The missing laptop was noted in the 11/6 search warrant.

    If I read that right.

  126. Noway, now I remember that Cassandra said one was missing, and sort of implied Drew had done away with it, or hidden it. Thanks for the link.

  127. I looked at it, it looks like the lost part of the underlining on those links.

    That receipt is the key to how this all shakes out.

    I guess we have to wait and see.

  128. That’s probably what it is!

    When it was typed up the links and email addresses automatically were underlined. The fax just “lost” some of that.

    Oh, I’m laughing so hard at myself! 😀 😀 😀

    Wonky. That’s me.

  129. Well, I have 2 working theories on Ashley, one it is some very close to DP.

    My second is, Ashley smacks of someone from FSP that was banned and fancied themselves as a private eye. Someone that was banned from another site and set up their own ultra private forum that only a few loyal posters belong to. That is all the hints you get.

  130. A joke by Joel and Drew at this point would not score any points with potential jurors, so I don’t think it is either of them.

    Ashley as someone from FSP … well, she said she had never been a member of a forum, and someone banned from FSP doesn’t exactly narrow things down for me.

    Someone close to DP? Do you mean close as in related to or close as in a friend of … or what?

  131. Noway said: Does the receipt look altered to anyone else?
    +++++++++++
    It looks to me like there may have been a light color block there that doesn’t show up well in black and white, but maybe not. Noticed it in several places though. I get that kind of thing occasionally when faxes have color on them, but I receive them in black and white. Guess we’ll know for sure one day if it’s fake or not, but I’m not taking Joel’s word for it.

  132. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Uh, oh I looked at the comments on Ashley’s blog. Must. Not. Look.
    ______________________________

    I’m the “kid” that looks when someone says not too. 🙂

    AnonyVEG said:
    JIC is back in full force!!

    What is JIC? Far as I can tell at the moment, it’s a good abbreviation for Jicama —– a lovely vegetable used in a stir-fry — and I do use it quite often. It’s delicious. Did I win? DID I WIN? I wanted to win, so bad! If not, I still have my stir-fry.

  133. noway406,

    I know what she said, I also have read what she wrote. She was very quick talking about certain people from various forums.
    A little more help, think about the private eye part. They were a very active poster, very active.

  134. I’m more concerned with “Is it all the truth” than with “Who is Ashley and why is she (or he) doing what she (or he) is doing.”

    🙂

  135. cfs and gotout … did you see the post above where the lightbulb goes on as to why there might me a line under those items?

    (wish I had lightbulb emoticon)

  136. Selig says that it’s true that DP and Ashley ‘exchanged emails’ but according to her, she never sent any (though she predicted that he was going to fake some and post them on Sunday).

    She says she never emailed him and never called him.

    Interesting.

  137. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    I’m more concerned with “Is it all the truth” than with “Who is Ashley and why is she (or he) doing what she (or he) is doing.”
    ——————
    You are getting warmer.

    I agree, what is the big drama about, why would you risk LE stopping you, why not put it all up at once? I want to know, I will admit to it, but I will not be posting on any of those sites.

  138. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Selig says that it’s true that DP and Ashley ‘exchanged emails’ but according to her, she never sent any (though she predicted that he was going to fake some and post them on Sunday).

    She says she never emailed him and never called him.

    Interesting.
    ++++++++
    I know who’s authenticity I’m going to doubt.

  139. Aw, shoot, Selig is paid to say Drew Peterson is telling the truth, he’s not bad, he’s being victimized by a scorned woman. Would anyone expect him to say, “well, yeah, Drew did try and score with a hottie, but, honestly, his kids were nurtured and fed, they were never in any danger if he brought an Internet hottie into his home, and he’s only doing what his hormones are telling him to do?”

    Oh, puleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!

  140. I’m just annoyed that Selig doesn’t keep up with the program. The only comments he made don’t even jive with what is actually said by Ashely or shown in the screen captures.

  141. Facsmiley – maybe he’s keeping it sweet and short until he can cut the ties. I think the whole lot of them may want to cut the ties.

    I swear, I keep looking on the Will County docket page to see if there’s a Motion to Withdraw as Attorney of Record from the rest of the Drew team! I mean, he’s not the only client that pays fees, is he? This isn’t helping to further anyone’s career anymore, LOL. And, as far as Brodsky’s concerned, believe you me, the whole world knows who he is, including people in Thailand!

  142. Selig may lump all communication into emails (PMs, IMs, EMs …).

    WHY would Ashley assume the receipt faxed to her was authentic. She put her trust in someone else. Makes me wonder who faxed her the receipt.

  143. noway406,

    That is what I was thinking, too.

    Still, I can’t get past as to why he would troll with known screen names. That is so weird.

  144. pamom40ish – because he’s lost his grip on reality.

    Don’t you think, even if one were to think he’s not guilty of any wrongdoing, that this has got to be the ultimate in stress? Day after day, accusation after accusation, four kids, house, money, lawyers, publicist, writers, reporters, and on and on, he’s got to be just a little fried by now??? Who said what he does is acceptable and normal behavior? Not me. I think he’s either lost his grip, or is darn well close!

    Wouldn’t that about explain why he does what he does? Boy, it sure would explain a lot of things for me, LOL!

  145. Selig is just downplaying the Ashley thing (as a good PR man would do about any bad PR for his client).

    Explaining Drew?

    Don’t think I want to take that on …

  146. Ashley posted some comments on her blog. She’s locked it down for now to stop the posting, but she addressed Selig and told him (my words) to watch out!

  147. Ashley said…
    (from article) Peterson’s publicist Glen Selig says that Peterson did exchange emails with the woman, but says it was all innocent flirting and the in the end Ashley wanted more — which Drew couldn’t give her.

    On her blog, Ashley said: I thought Glen was being smart by not talking but I can see he is stupid like Joel & Drew – Well Mr publicist Glen,you should have never made the above comment to WBBM news today because what I am going to post/prove in there very end of this will show your above comment is 100 % wrong,so Glen -watch & burn,oops I mean watch & learn .. 🙂 🙂

    July 8, 2008 4:03 PM
    __________________
    This ought to be fun.

  148. LOL, I’ve never, ever, been one to read a gripping novel, only to cheat by looking at the end to see how it turns out. Darn, I’d sure do that now if I could!!!! Oh, the suspense!!!

  149. Noway, it’s like I told Let and Duck last night….they must have more principles than I do, but I’m getting a kick out of watching this woman, principles or not. She has surprised me day after day with her outre’ antics.

  150. It makes me feel the same way Rescue. This would be the time to have a crystal ball that actually worked, or know a psychic that could actually foresee the future. Actually, I don’t really believe in any of that stuff, but does anyone know if the psychics had anything to say about Ashley? Not that they would be bothered with this, because concentrating on Stacy would certainly be more important, but I don’t know who these visions and dreams they get come and go. Just wondered it anyone had read anything.

    Granddaughter will be here shortly to spend the night, so it will be late, if/when I get back on.

  151. Oh to be a fly on the wall of the meeting between Drew, Joel, and Glenn. 😀

    What’s next, fellas?

    BB later tonight too …

  152. Just want to apologize if I offended anyone when I said I didn’t believe in psychics. I’m sorry. My opinion is that I just think if they were really psychic, they would have been able to tell LE where to find Stacy, and she would have been found by now. However, if I had a missing loved one, I would try anything and everything to find them, even a psychic. No offense meant to anyone, okay?

  153. Quickly:

    1) Apple laptop is still unaccounted for.

    2) Please do not assume that *any* of Stacy’s family or friends knew about DiP’s 2 bpd Yahoo accounts or the AOL one.

    Be back later! 🙂

  154. CFS – when is your grandchild coming over? You’ll be MIA?

    You’ll need to check in to see if Ashley posts anything else today.

  155. Evening All –

    I did contact the ISP today. Told them of my concerns, gave them the information, website etc and was done. I was advised that certain internet act can fall under the “Computer Fraud and Abuse Act” which is Federal. I then contacted the Federal Prosecutors Office in Chicago and told them the exact same thing I told the ISP.

  156. I’m trying to research the Federal Laws. It seems like bloggers etc are claiming they are entitled to the same rights as the media, and it’s being tossed around on the Supreme Court level.

    Still searching though.

  157. Isn’t there a law against interfering with a criminal investigation?

    Is JB posting responses at SYM?

    OMG-You guys have sucked me back into this mess.

  158. letthetruthbefree,
    Really, wouldn’t that open them up for lawsuits. I would think that bloggers would want to stay on the sidelines. I guess there are different types of bloggers, it’s all over my head.

  159. How is she sooo positive over the website reciept and his credit card number?

    I wonder if someone was cruising DP’s computer…

  160. Quickly again:

    1) Good show, Letthetruthbefree. I agree that it is a serious violation & needed to be nipped in the bud, so to speak.

    2) JB did *NOT* forge Kathleen’s sigs on the will or the home mortgage release paperwork, nor did he notarize the latter. JB did not know DiP or Kathleen at that time. It is my belief that DiP committed these forgeries himself.

    3) Ashley’s not in Canada. Think Gateway Arch…

  161. Personally, I think she has divulged about all she had to divulge and due to the coaxing of her rah-rah team with encouraging her to show more….show more….she has now decided to create some more. I don’t believe the fax either. Fact is, I called the hotline number to that amateurmatch.com fax (on bottom). Only problem is, I was on hold forever and it is not that important to me to activate my carpal tunnel by holding the phone up to my ear for so long. LOL Time will tell. She may have gotten her wish now that the media is picking up on the story. No surprise that she hasn’t returned emails to Danya. Probably would if money were involved. After all, she herself encouraged another blogger to call National Enquirer FOR her. I yi yi yi yi. Out of the woodwork they all come.

  162. pamom40ish // July 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Tell me one thing that would make it into a murder trial, you are only seeing parts of things, not the whole thing. IM
    _________________________
    One thing that might make it into a murder trial was him saying “she could have just left me” to Ashley in one of the first chats she posted.

    That sounds odd for him to say.

  163. Bash and Lavanda, I’d think you were brilliant if I hadn’t read that last week (St. Louis). What little bird told you?

    😀

  164. pamom40ish, D. made some huge mistakes chatting online. He broke a huge rule of the internet. If you don’t want it seen, don’t write it!!

    He sure has been quiet since this whole blog thing has come to light.

    He was quiet when they were searching the Cal Sag Canal too.

    There was an FBI profiler some months ago, said “watch his demeanor”, when he’s quiet, LE is on to something!!

  165. I know, Letthetruthbefree. Only the #1 was meant to be in ressponse to you. Sorry that was unclear. 🙂

  166. Noway- what can I say? Being blonde has its drawbacks. Remind me to shake your hand for being a smart cookie right before I smack you on the head with my trusty flyswatter for being so comedically impertinent if I ever meet you.

    🙂

  167. Ok I’m getting a headache reading laws, and jumping around. One section leads you to the next, and the next….lol.

  168. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Ok I’m getting a headache reading laws, and jumping around. One section leads you to the next, and the next….lol.
    _________________-

    The laws are very complex. I personally believe it would be easier to be a brain surgeon.

  169. Per Ashley:
    Ashley said…
    Response to anonymous post @ 7:01 PM , exactly , so people in glass houses should not throw stones – its been proven he likes to do FORGERY so now let him prove mine our( WHICH HE CANT AND WONT ) , I challenge Joel to prove me wrong .

    July 8, 2008 7:05 PM
    _____________________________

    Whose “our” ?

  170. Lavanda, I think I agree with you…lol.

    I’ve gone on to looking at hairstyles, takes no brain power at all….lol.

  171. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Lavanda, I think I agree with you…lol.

    I’ve gone on to looking at hairstyles, takes no brain power at all….lol.
    ______________

    TOO freaky! I just got done printing off the way I want my hair styled tomorrow! lol

  172. What I have noticed about Ashley is she doesn’t seem to think thing through. She depends on her readers to point out things, for instance the supposed forgery on the will, then she jumps on it.

  173. basherette // July 8, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    Noway- what can I say? Being blonde has its drawbacks. Remind me to shake your hand for being a smart cookie right before I smack you on the head with my trusty flyswatter for being so comedically impertinent if I ever meet you.
    ____________
    I cannot take credit for being the smart cookie.

    I read that she was from StL … did not “figure it out” and don’t know that I believe it.

    But … educate me.

    😀

    If we meet, you feel free to swat me. Introduce yourself first, or I may retaliate. 😀

  174. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    LOL

    Ducky … what does

    www

    dot

    amateurmatch

    dot

    com

    mean to you?
    ——————————————————
    Stop laughing at me. I had to throw my body in front of my monitor! hehe

    Let-I shall take the blue please. My hair just got more gray in it! lol

  175. Ducky, the good news is that my post did not go to spam, even though it had links in it!

    Uh … you may not think that is good news. 😀

  176. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Ducky, the good news is that my post did not go to spam, even though it had links in it!

    Uh … you may not think that is good news.
    ——————————-
    the first time in history that your links didn’t go to spam. My poor eyes! I didn’t know women could-never mind. 😉

  177. Ashley has stated that she lives in downstate Il, but as lots have noted she always has ads for canadian sites on her yahoo stuff. Proxy?

  178. gatehousechicago // July 8, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Hello everyone,
    Just in case ya’ll didn’t see it, we wanted to let you all know that we’ve put the Ashley blog story up.

    ****************************

    Congratulations.

    Now, how about taking the porn off. You can scroll over the amateur link and look at the real deal.

    One more request— check out the FoSP fund. IL State’s Atty General’s office says they are not a registered charity.

    Who’s minding the money?

  179. It’s worse now. I sent my own post to the abuse hot line for WordPress. It came back in my mail. So, my friend said to put a space between the h ttp. Guess what happened? It automatically took me there again.

    Noway-you owe me pinks too!

  180. I took the receipt graphic into PhotoShop and played with the curves. There actually are faint lines under the URL and email address, but that makes sense since it indicates that they would be clickable on an ‘electronic receipt’.

  181. If I can be honest here, I don’t know why people want to involve themselves and call the feds on ashley or try to ferret her out.

    I would think the only person who has a legitimate beef with her is Drew, and since he and his legal rep have full knowledge of what she is posting and saying, it’s up to them to take any action they would like to take.

    I still don’t care what she copies and pastes or what receipts she puts up there. When I see her divulge something of mine that I’m not too happy about, I’ll take her to task.

    I guess maybe that shows a shallow depth to my moral compass…but there it is.

  182. Bash, better smack me now.

    Duckie, don’t know how to get jellybeans to you … THOSE posts go to spam.

    I’m being banned for (inavertently) posting porn on WP. 😉

  183. I don’t know why, but I just hate looking at a beaver shot where the girl is still wearing a shirt. I think it reminds me too much of Porky Pig.

  184. On the receipt, how come “name” slants to the left-then scroll down to “approval” and that slants to the right. In looking at this closely (with no help from Noway), something is just “off.”

    I am not accusing Ashley. Maybe it’s just from the burn of seeing porn twice in a day. 😉

  185. Facs, its just like digging everything up on Drew that people possible can.

    I don’t like, and I believe it to be illegal what she has done.

    In my opinion she crossed the line with the receipt. And think about it, if she is doing this to him, and have the ability, she and or anyone else can do it to anyone of us.

  186. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    In my opinion she crossed the line with the receipt. And think about it, if she is doing this to him, and have the ability, she and or anyone else can do it to anyone of us.
    ***************************************

    I understand your feelings. I guess if I liked him more I could make myself care more.

  187. The server is down at Ashley’s new forum site. Anyone else getting a

    “The website cannot display the page
    HTTP 500
    Most likely causes:
    The website is under maintenance.
    The website has a programming error. ”

    message when they try to go there?

  188. Please dont think I *like* Drew, there is nothing that could be further from the truth.

    But then again, I dont like a lot of people that are personally involved in this case.

    It would be easier to say whom I like, versues whom I don’t like…..lol.

  189. I doubt if you will find a Drew liker.
    Still, what “Ashley” did is despicable.

    I love the cheering for her though. Awesome.

    I don’t see you slamming her grammar and spelling.

    Oops… I seen you dint kerect her mistakes.

  190. Amanda, hence the reason I made those couple of calls today. Did it get anywhere, who knows, but I feel better that I did it.

    And the same would be true if Drew told me something.

    Ashley should have gone to LE herself.

    If LE was involved in this, it wouldn’t have taken her days to get her new forum up and running etc.

  191. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    I’m scared to go to her new forum…..
    ***********************************

    No kidding, now she’s called you a bitch and all. 🙂

    Seriously, every time I read those comments I feel like part of my brain has dripped out of my ears. I want to stop…but I can’t.

  192. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Facs, its just like digging everything up on Drew that people possible can.

    I don’t like, and I believe it to be illegal what she has done.

    In my opinion she crossed the line with the receipt. And think about it, if she is doing this to him, and have the ability, she and or anyone else can do it to anyone of us.
    ___________

    Using someone’s identity falsely, or for ones own personal gain, can and would be considered identity theft.

  193. OT:

    I personally know a gal that was stalked and had pictures of herself put on the internet without her permission.

    She fought, and fought it on the Federal Level all the way, and won.

    Here is another case of internet crimes:

    Jury Awards $11 Million Over Defamatory Internet Posts

    By Laura Parker, USA TODAY

    (Oct. 11) – A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a “crook,” a “con artist” and a “fraud.”

    Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla. – first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review – represents the largest such judgment over postings on an Internet blog or message board. Lyrissa Lidsky, a University of Florida law professor who specializes in free-speech issues, calls the award “astonishing.”

    Lidsky says the case could represent a coming trend in court fights over online messages because the woman who won the damage award, Sue Scheff of Weston, Fla., pursued the case even though she knew the defendant, Carey Bock of Mandeville, La., has no hope of paying such an award. Bock, who had to leave her home for several months because of Hurricane Katrina, couldn’t afford an attorney and didn’t show up for the trial.

    “What’s interesting about this case is that (Scheff) was so vested in being vindicated, she was willing to pay court costs,” Lidsky says. “They knew before trial that the defendant couldn’t pay, so what’s the point in going to the jury?”

    Scheff says she wanted to make a point to those who unfairly criticize others on the Internet. “I’m sure (Bock) doesn’t have $1 million, let alone $11 million, but the message is strong and clear,” Scheff says. “People are using the Internet to destroy people they don’t like, and you can’t do that.”

    The dispute between the two women arose after Bock asked Scheff for help in withdrawing Bock’s twin sons from a boarding school in Costa Rica. Bock had disagreed with her ex-husband over how to deal with the boys’ behavior problems. Against Bock’s wishes, he had sent the boys to the boarding school.

    Scheff, who operates a referral service called Parents Universal Resource Experts, says she referred Bock to a consultant who helped Bock retrieve her sons. Afterward, Bock became critical of Scheff and posted negative messages about her on the Internet site Fornits.com, where parents with children in boarding schools for troubled teens confer with one another.

    In 2003, Scheff sued Bock for defamation. Bock hired a lawyer, but he left the case when she no longer could afford to pay him.

    When Katrina hit in August 2005, Bock’s house was flooded and she moved temporarily to Texas before returning to Louisiana last June. Court papers that Scheff and her attorney David H. Pollack mailed to Bock were returned to Pollack’s office in Miami.

    After Bock didn’t offer a defense, a Broward Circuit Court judge found in favor of Scheff. A jury then heard Scheff’s arguments about damages. Pollack did not seek a specific amount for the harm he says Scheff’s business suffered.

    “Even with no opposing counsel and no defendant there, $11 million is a huge amount,” says Pollack, adding that Scheff is considering whether to try to collect any money from Bock. “The jury determined this was a significant enough issue. It’s not just somebody’s feelings are hurt; it’s somebody’s reputation is ruined.”

    Bock says that when she moved back to her repaired house over the summer, she knew the trial was approaching but did not know the date. She says she doesn’t have the money to pay the judgment or hire a lawyer to appeal it. She adds that if the goal of Scheff’s lawsuit was to stifle what Bock says online, it worked.

    “I don’t feel like I can express my opinions,” Bock says. “Only one side of the story was told in court. Nobody heard my side.”

  194. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    If I can be honest here, I don’t know why people want to involve themselves and call the feds on ashley or try to ferret her out.

    I would think the only person who has a legitimate beef with her is Drew, and since he and his legal rep have full knowledge of what she is posting and saying, it’s up to them to take any action they would like to take.

    I still don’t care what she copies and pastes or what receipts she puts up there. When I see her divulge something of mine that I’m not too happy about, I’ll take her to task.

    I guess maybe that shows a shallow depth to my moral compass…but there it is.
    ~~~~

    My sentiments exactly. Great Post!

  195. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Please dont think I *like* Drew, there is nothing that could be further from the truth.

    But then again, I dont like a lot of people that are personally involved in this case.
    ********************************

    Oh please, I was just asked for the names of three people living or dead who I’d want to go to dinner with and I could barely think of three people I liked. 😉

  196. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    I’ve reported myself to Gatehouse. FYI
    ************************************

    When you’re gone, I’ll always speak kindly of you. 😉

  197. lavandadolce // July 8, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Using someone’s identity falsely, or for ones own personal gain, can and would be considered identity theft.
    ***************************************

    Ashley doesn’t seem to have a kind word for you anymore either. 😦

  198. I’m sure Lavanda will cry herself to sleep tonight over Ashley’s unkind words of her…..lol.

  199. Hi everyone,
    Apparently there is a link that someone (noway???) accidentally put up here. We’ve tried finding it but not quite sure what ya’ll are referring to. If that is the case, can someone please post what time the comment was made…do not repost the comment with the link. Thanks everyone.

  200. OH NO! Noway-you are in big trouble missy! hehe. I reported myself too! lol

    facs-will you talk nice about me too?

  201. Ashley is free to answer my questions, or not. She is also entitled to her opinion of me. Yes, you’re right, I don’t believe she is too fond of me….but that’s ok….my ex is not too fond of me either:) Especially when I made him have to start paying child support after four years of non support to his children.

  202. Lavanda, you mean, wicked, awful lady, making the ex pay child support, how dare you…..;) lol

  203. Yes I will Duck. I have a deep and abiding respect for the banned.

    Lavanda, at least you had your say and were heard. Much more appreciated than people who anonymously taunt and call others window-lickers.

  204. Oh please, I was just asked for the names of three people living or dead who I’d want to go to dinner with and I could barely think of three people I liked.
    __________________

    Oh FACS! I could name lists of people, living or dead who I would love to have dinner with! For starters, God first, Victor Kiam, Patty Duke, Ronald Reagan, no doubt George Clooney, Percy Ross, Donald Trump, Percy L. Crosby, Al Pacino, no doubt Robin Williams….goodness I could go on and on….and on…. 🙂

  205. On her new forum, can you be anonymous (sp)?

    I thought you had to register and that was the whole idea behind it.

  206. The system picked THAT post to not go to spam! What luck. 🙂 Thanks, Gatehouse.

    Guess you all won’t be visiting me in the Big House after all.

    😀

  207. lavandadolce // July 8, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Oh FACS! I could name lists of people, living or dead who I would love to have dinner with! For starters, God first, Victor Kiam, Patty Duke, Ronald Reagan, no doubt George Clooney, Percy Ross, Donald Trump, Percy L. Crosby, Al Pacino, no doubt Robin Williams….goodness I could go on and on….and on….
    ****************************

    Well, I can think of lots of people I admire but most of them wouldn’t be great dinner companions. Some are arty and quiet, others would probably try to monopolize the conversation, some would not have a sense of humor, you know?

    I finally settled on Mark Mothersbaugh, Geraldine Page and Michel Gondry.

  208. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Lavanda, you mean, wicked, awful lady, making the ex pay child support, how dare you….. lol
    ______________

    Well, for starters after 18 years of marriage and my divorcing him, I paid HIM alimony for four years and waived him paying child support. (Due to our tremendous income differences.) So for four years he made out without child support. (The 4 year alimony I gave him in one lump sum.)………so after the four years I told hiim to put $25 in each son’s savings account each month. Did he? nope. Sometimes $15 in one child and none in the other. By then he married some other woman who had bucks (got her suckered) I upped the savings account deposits to $35 each child. LOL. He was ticked and put nothing. Then I filed legally for child support. I tried to give him a good deal. Now he pays and when our son turned 18 in Jan he thought he was done paying! ROFL. My lawyer and judge were good. Due to the writing of the support, and the costs of my 18 year old’s disabilities they considered that above the norm in costs to raise a child, he pays until the youngest child is 18 the same amount. Talk about having the last laugh!

  209. Noway, I have the perfect big house for you to go to, if you must go at any point…..Dukes County House of Corrections, it’s beautiful….:)

  210. I finally settled on Mark Mothersbaugh, Geraldine Page and Michel Gondry.
    ______________

    Oh me oh my. Have no clue who Mark or Michel is? Now going to have to google it!

  211. Lavanda, good for you. You were actually very kind in the settlement, way more than fair.

  212. noway406 // July 8, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    The system picked THAT post to not go to spam! What luck. Thanks, Gatehouse.

    Guess you all won’t be visiting me in the Big House after all.
    ______________

    I’ll visit you Noway. May even bake cookies to bring if they allow 🙂

  213. Since Facs made that post I’ve been thinking about the three I would like to have dinner with, and that’s very hard to narrow down, tough question you were asked.

  214. Lavanda, and Dukes County isn’t all the far from you, you could bring her cookies, soap, all that good stuff……lol.

  215. Let, Dukes County sounded great from your description … going for a swim with kids … enjoying my freedom while I can!

    😀

  216. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Lavanda, and Dukes County isn’t all the far from you, you could bring her cookies, soap, all that good stuff……lol.
    _____________

    I’ll even splurge and bring her Portico Spa soap. It’s the best that exists! Hubby cringes everytime that box comes to the house. LOL

  217. The problem I have with boxes coming to the house is not them coming, I can hide them well, its breaking them down and getting them into the recycle bin without being noticed. Nothing like watching and waiting for the recycle man to run out to him with my stash…..lol.

  218. facsmiley // July 8, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    If I can be honest here, I don’t know why people want to involve themselves and call the feds on ashley or try to ferret her out.

    I would think the only person who has a legitimate beef with her is Drew, and since he and his legal rep have full knowledge of what she is posting and saying, it’s up to them to take any action they would like to take.

    I still don’t care what she copies and pastes or what receipts she puts up there. When I see her divulge something of mine that I’m not too happy about, I’ll take her to task.

    I guess maybe that shows a shallow depth to my moral compass…but there it is.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    I am in the shallow end of the morals pool with ya facs!!!! Just kicking back enjoying the show and the sun. Need any sunblock? How about a beer?

  219. No, haven’t tried the sea salts. For whatever reason I have been totally into soaps this year. Sort of like a personal luxury item for myself 🙂 I find some really nice ones at TJ Maxx and Marshalls on sale…plenty to chose from.

    Well, talked myself into a bath right now before we watch a Nicolas Cage movie. Love his acting…don’t think I would pick him for dinner though. G’nite all. See you tomorrow.

  220. Drew Peterson was just voted as the BIGGEST LOSER on the Dan Abrams show. LMFAO!! He did mention something about Britney and the blog. No specifics.

  221. I just got an email, and its a bit odd. Don’t know if its from Ashley’s blog or her new forum, but it seems the favorite words over there are….STFU, and Smelly, am I correct? lol

  222. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    I just got an email, and its a bit odd. Don’t know if its from Ashley’s blog or her new forum, but it seems the favorite words over there are….STFU, and Smelly, am I correct? lol
    ———————————————————
    What? Are you kidding me? Did you sign up over there? Dan was shaking his head, it was funny! A long time ago he said that Drew wouldn’t always be on the list but he wouldn’t do say any more until he’s arrested. I guess the blog and Britney did him in. lol No mention of Ashley.

    Anyone think about Det?

  223. Oh. I thought that you signed up and are getting weird emails. I need to get some rest. lol

    Dethead was a poster and he was amazing at getting information on anyone/anything. It was many moons ago. I’m not understanding why the blog and forum are being allowed by LE. It makes no sense. I have nothing against Ashley, but it seems like it’s more of a soap opera and has nothing to do with finding Stacy or getting justice for Kathleen. Although, I am very guilty of peeking in 😉

    2. long. of. a. post.

  224. iknoweverythinglol – if you bring the beer I ‘ve got the pretzels and man are they making me thirsty.

  225. Ahhh now I understand it Ducky. I vaguely remember that nic. I haven’t peeked, no need getting myself all worked up over her/him/it.

    What ever happened to that Jim person. He was on the FSP at the beginning, and was very involved, and then when I got back to the states from vacation he seemed to vanish.

  226. Message content rejected
    ____________
    My email to report myself was rejected. I think it was because of the subject line of my email … one word that begins with P and ends with N.

    Ah, well. Back from a swim and feeling much better.

    I will remain in the shallow end of the morals pool too, not being concerned whether Ashley spends time in the Big House for her blog or not.

  227. letthetruthbefree // July 8, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Ahhh now I understand it Ducky. I vaguely remember that nic. I haven’t peeked, no need getting myself all worked up over her/him/it.

    What ever happened to that Jim person. He was on the FSP at the beginning, and was very involved, and then when I got back to the states from vacation he seemed to vanish.
    ——————————————————–
    I have no idea. Was that his nic?

  228. Don’t think we can discuss him since he may not post here, but I think Mokena is the last part of that nic.

    And that is a city. Maybe an Irish name too … 😉

  229. It just dawned on me, as we are seeing so many new posters, and his was a name I remember from the get go that was so involved, and seemed to have his heart and soul in it.

    Was just curious.

  230. Sorry all. I didn’t mean to start this and I wouldn’t want to put names out there for no reason. I was just thinking that Dethead was an amazing researcher and seemed to “find” things that none of us “regular” folks couldn’t.

    Time to sign off and get some sleep! Night all!

  231. Night Ducky.

    I remember Jim in Mokena, he was a good searchers I believe.

    But that’s not who I’m thinking of, oh well.

  232. Why are real people’s names still being brought up here?

    Especially searchers? wtf is wrong with some of you? That man searched so many times, I wouldn’t even guess the number.

    I see it has been allowed to remain here overnight too.

    Put your own names out there.

    Stop putting searchers names out. They are not in the news.

    This is wrong.

    Gatehouse, you are a coward allowing this. You pick and choose what names you delete fast and others you just leave up.

    If you moderate then do the damn job and MODERATE!!!

  233. Someone mentioned Jim In Mokena? I’m taking the summer off. Too much green on the ground to see anything underneath and gas is too costly to do as much driving as I used to. However… for the record… I have not given up… I have not lost interest and I have not stopped searchng. I’m merely being more selective in my approaches. BTW: Hi Everyone. I miss the FSP forum.

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