Your Thread – July 11

Here’s Friday’s thread everyone. Enjoy your weekends!

~By posting on this blog you agree to be bound by the rules of this blog.

Advertisements

380 thoughts on “Your Thread – July 11

  1. Here too (Montana). Kids are sleeping; hubby at work … enjoying my coffee with no interruptions. 😉

  2. the next time someone spams this board , no matter who it is – your I.P will be banned , I put alot of free time into this blog and i’m not going to sit here deleting spam for an hour just because someone thought it was a way to help protect the board or to bury a bad comment , leave the comment and I will delete once I come here .

    July 10, 2008 7:13 PM
    ashley you are a liar you left that post up & started deleting other posts. you are such a considerate person. you remind so much of someone. yeah lets leave it there for hours so everyone can read it. your the one who chose to have a blog so how about you monitor it. hard concept? sorry i took your time away from hooking up. but i believe many people now see you for what you are. scum

  3. ugh…I am gonna start following the Jon Bonet case again…
    These word/board wars are depressing….
    gonna go do something productive like feed my critters…

  4. noway406 // July 11, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I’ve probably just jinxed myself.
    +++++++++++++++++
    Yep. Looks like the children are awake now.

  5. I wonder………When will the “Ashley Chronicles” will be complete….sigh…and
    good morning all…It’s Friday !!! Yay

  6. Good morning.

    Does anyone know what the 7/17 court date is for? I know the 14th is the gun charge.

    Just curious.

  7. Apparantly my coffee has not kicked in…correction….When will the “Ashley Chronicles” be complete……sigh

  8. Harley – that is a status hearing regarding the Kathleen Savio estate matter. The attorneys meeting with the Judge about pending motions, etc.

  9. cfs7360 // July 11, 2008 at 9:17 am

    noway406 // July 11, 2008 at 8:32 am

    I’ve probably just jinxed myself.
    +++++++++++++++++
    Yep. Looks like the children are awake now.
    ___________
    I know I am. 🙂

  10. Me too Noway, but barely. Just went after a second cup of coffee. Think I’ll go back and get a straw for this one. 😀

  11. 1wonderwoman // July 11, 2008 at 9:22 am

    I wonder………When will the “Ashley Chronicles” will be complete….sigh…and
    good morning all…It’s Friday !!! Yay
    ++++++++++++++++++
    Yay is right! Wonderwoman, I have a feeling Ashley needs to step it up a bit if she’s going to complete her chronicles before the GJ ends, which I sort of think isn’t far away. Not that she cares, but several posters seem to be getting bored with it, or more and more upset about what she’s doing. What do you think?

  12. I missed this yesterday. This just makes me laugh …

    joelbrodsky
    Member

    Re: Peterson Case Discussion # 3
    « Reply #211 Yesterday at 7:00am »

    _________________________
    Thats what happened to me. These assh**les at crimrant were diss’ing me because I wouln’t post a comment on there site, but when I tried to post there I got the same message saying there spam filters were blocking me. Those guys are full of it. The site was just advertisment and a mutual self love society.

  13. CFS – I agree that the winds are changing. Time to shift into high gear and move it on. Don’t you think so 1WW?

    Noway, thanks for the JB comment. I think he should dispense with the petty stuff and blog about what the CT Atty General did after they received his information. Seems he would do that if it was favorable to him, no?

  14. Rescue, that’s what made me laugh … that he continues with the Crimerant ranting. Some apparently stay with naming calling longer than sixth grade too. 😉

  15. Yep , I think the wind has definately changed direction in this case….I feel things are going to srart happening now…Now if only they can find SP…now that would be WONDERFUL !

  16. BTW Noway, thanks for posting that comment from Joel. His posts are always entertaining, whether case related or not. But yeah Rescue, I’ve wondered about the complaint he sent to the CT AG too, and how it’s unfolding. Maybe Bash will call on that one too. 😀

  17. 1wonderwoman // July 11, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Yep , I think the wind has definately changed direction in this case….I feel things are going to srart happening now…Now if only they can find SP…now that would be WONDERFUL !
    ++++++++++++++++++
    I wish I could believe that she will be found, but after all this time, or unless someone confesses to her murder and where they put her, I don’t much think she will be. What do you think?

  18. I have to admit that I generally have a negative attitude toward whatever Drew says, and that because of that, I miss what is obvious to others …

    I was reading comments at SYM about Drew’s comments regarding his son’s GJ testimony yesterday.

    Quoting from story (WordPress link above): More than five hours later, Drew Peterson stood outside his home waiting for his son’s return and said authorities were wasting their time interviewing the teen.(End of quote.)

    WHY would interviewing someone who could help prove your innocence be a waste of time?

    Kris (and Thom) were in the house and awake, and certainly might have heard their mom leave. They may have noticed Stacy’s behavior or overhead phone calls …

  19. if he did it (99% sure he did) why couldnt he have just been a man & confessed to save his children going thru this. kris having a headache tore me up. maybe he just said that cuz he didnt want to talk to his father or maybe he just wanted to go to bed. poor guy. sad its just dp & the kids & no one esle could you imagine? i wish they had year round school in bb.

  20. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1050947,CST-NWS-boling11.article

    +++++++++++++
    What got to me in this article was not only the headache, but supposedly Drew asked Kris if he “told the truth” and Kris was said to have just nodded. Pook kid.

    Feisty, Drew only seems to care about saving himself, and he says his boys are bored with all of this, because that’s probably what he wants to believe…..not that he has caused them insurmountable suffering and pain, IMO.

  21. noway406 // July 11, 2008 at 10:23 am

    Drew Peterson stood outside his home waiting for his son’s return and said authorities were wasting their time interviewing the teen.(End of quote.)

    WHY would interviewing someone who could help prove your innocence be a waste of time?
    ++++++++++++++++
    Exactly! Why would Drew even make such an asinine statement? I think it’s because he was telling whoever was there to listen that the GJ wasn’t going to get anything on him from his son….not even thinking in the reverse, that Kris could help prove him innocent, which is actually one in the same. That’s just the way psychopaths think. Whether the GJ garnered anything damaging to Drew from Kris’ testimony or not remains to be seen.

  22. I had those same tech issues with posting at Crimerant and I didn’t take them personally. But thenI was being taunted about the fact that I hadn’t posted…

    Still, no class displayed by Le Brodsque.

  23. …and good morning! I slept late because I was dreaming that there was a noisy pool party next door and that their neighbor was yelling at them that it was TOO EARLY to be making so much noise. So I figured it must be early and I kept on sleeping.

  24. Taking a much needed hiatus!!!

    Then after reading for a week or so I thought I’d let things cool down around here and there, but there’s gonna be none of that I see.

    Wow is all I can say.

  25. Hi, Lizanne! We missed ya; but I sure understand the need to take time for personal regrouping. I’ve done that from one of the boards I post on for self preservation.

  26. Media alerts are being issued by Brodsky via Selig for court appearances now? Geesh. Just when you think you’ve seen it all.

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=697&z=4

    Media Alert: Drew Peterson to Appear in Court to Face Gun Charge
    The hearing on July 14 is on Peterson’s motion to dismiss the gun charge.
    July 11, 2008 – brodskyodeh.com

    Chicago, Ill. – The following is a media alert from Drew Peterson’s attorneys Joel A. Brodsky and Andrew Abood.

    Media Alert

    What: Drew Peterson in Court on Gun Charges
    Where: Will County Courthouse-Joliet, Illinois
    Why: Hearing to be held on Drew Peterson’s Motion to Dismiss gun charge.
    Date: Monday, July 14, 2008
    Time: 1:30pm

    Background:

    On May 21, 2008 Drew Peterson turned himself in to police on a gun charge.

    The criminal complaint against Peterson, issued by the Will County State’s Attorney’s office, says Peterson possessed an assault rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches which violates state law. It’s a Class 3 felony.

    The weapon was seized after Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in October but before Peterson resigned as a police officer.

    Peterson used the AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle while he was a police officer, which Joel Brodsky, his attorney, contends makes him an exception under state and federal law.

    A week after the arrest, Peterson released a photo of himself on duty carrying the weapon in question while speaking with actor John Travolta (see link below) who was in town for a promotional tour.

    Peterson has been named a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy. The body of his third wife Kathleen was exhumed and ruled a homicide by the medical examiner.

    Peterson has not been charged in either case and maintains his innocence.

    Related Press Releases:
    May 28, 2008 Press Release: Photo Shows Drew Peterson in Uniform with Actor John Travolta Carrying Assault Weapon in Question
    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=567&z=0

    May 21, 2008 Press Release: Attorney for Drew Peterson Releases Statement on Arrest Warrant for Weapons Charge http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=559&z=0

    Contact:
    Glenn Selig, Publicist, ThePublicityAgency.com
    Phone: (813) 948-7767
    Email: glenn@thepublicityagency.com

    PRNewsChannel.com
    http://www.PRNewsChannel.com/

  27. Media alerts are being issued by Brodsky via Selig for court appearances now? Geesh. Just when you think you’ve seen it all.

    h ttp://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=697&z=4

    Media Alert: Drew Peterson to Appear in Court to Face Gun Charge
    The hearing on July 14 is on Peterson’s motion to dismiss the gun charge.
    July 11, 2008 – brodskyodeh.com

    Chicago, Ill. – The following is a media alert from Drew Peterson’s attorneys Joel A. Brodsky and Andrew Abood.

    Media Alert

    What: Drew Peterson in Court on Gun Charges
    Where: Will County Courthouse-Joliet, Illinois
    Why: Hearing to be held on Drew Peterson’s Motion to Dismiss gun charge.
    Date: Monday, July 14, 2008
    Time: 1:30pm

    Background:

    On May 21, 2008 Drew Peterson turned himself in to police on a gun charge.

    The criminal complaint against Peterson, issued by the Will County State’s Attorney’s office, says Peterson possessed an assault rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches which violates state law. It’s a Class 3 felony.

    The weapon was seized after Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in October but before Peterson resigned as a police officer.

    Peterson used the AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle while he was a police officer, which Joel Brodsky, his attorney, contends makes him an exception under state and federal law.

    A week after the arrest, Peterson released a photo of himself on duty carrying the weapon in question while speaking with actor John Travolta (see link below) who was in town for a promotional tour.

    Peterson has been named a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy. The body of his third wife Kathleen was exhumed and ruled a homicide by the medical examiner.

    Peterson has not been charged in either case and maintains his innocence.

    Related Press Releases:
    May 28, 2008 Press Release: Photo Shows Drew Peterson in Uniform with Actor John Travolta Carrying Assault Weapon in Question
    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=567&z=0

    May 21, 2008 Press Release: Attorney for Drew Peterson Releases Statement on Arrest Warrant for Weapons Charge http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=559&z=0

    Contact:
    Glenn Selig, Publicist, ThePublicityAgency.com
    Phone: (813) 948-7767
    Email: glenn@thepublicityagency.com

    PRNewsChannel.com
    http://www.PRNewsChannel.com/

  28. so true–
    just seems to be a lot of unnecessary nastiness around. not so much here as other places. must be more control here. But its biased control most places, depending on the host.

    Just had to glean on that for a while to regain my objectivity.

  29. Okay, now for the main question.

    Isn’t this a strange thing, at least I think it is, to bring attention to a court hearing? Would one think that JB thinks he’s going to score a win, and he wants the media there (you know, cameras, JB on the cameras, interviews) to see it?

    I don’t think DPeterson has to worry about adverse publicity and extra activity that’s been going on lately with other issues we’ve seen here. He does a darn good job of keeping himself in the media. No one but he and his defense team should be taking the blame for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. And he PAYS for the PRnews service too!

    What media whores…
    But Why?? that’s my only question.

    Most people like to keep their legal matters private.

  31. Well, considering Drew considers himself to be like a “Rock Star”, it does not surprise me at all. 🙄

  32. Lizanne, I think they are hoping that they can have more control of how the facts are presented, if they distribute their own press releases. Busy news agencies might just use them verbatim.

  33. of course you’re right facs.

    The media is not going to spin it the way they want.

    And of course there’s the rock star factor, harley. Or movie star (more interesting than robin williams, he thinks?) delusion.

  34. harleyjoey // July 11, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Well, considering Drew considers himself to be like a “Rock Star”, it does not surprise me at all.
    ~~

    I think I have just considered that I need to stop using the word consider! 😉

  35. See, that’s what I don’t understand. The news agencies follow the court date appearances. What is the purpose of “reminding” them of an upcoming court date? They DRAW the attention to themselves. Bloggers and followers aren’t responsible for his problems. He’s got his own agenda.

    I was beginning to think DP was insane, or at least losing his mind, but what’s the excuse of his handlers, family and supporters? Isn’t someone advising him that he’s in the fight of his life, and he needs to take control and handle it with respectability and dignity, rather than this dallying on the Internet and showboating for the media?

    No one to blame but them.

  36. 😆 Grandma!

    I just think everyone involved is too busy worrying about Drew’s celebrity. I can’t think of one single true celebrity that is merely a celebrity because they are a suspect in a disappearance/homocide. Most celebrities have their publicist make a press release for an appearance at a charity function, award show, etc…. Not a court appearance.

    He is a celebrity in his own mind, and the others are going along for the ride.

    Delusional – I’d say so.

    de·lu·sion Audio Help (dĭ-lōō’zhən) Pronunciation Key
    n.

    The act or process of deluding.
    The state of being deluded.
    A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.
    Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness.

  37. Suburban Chicago news has a longer version of Hosey’s story. Here is the additional part:

    …Peterson and his attorney, Joel Brodsky, have both maintained they received an assurance from the state police that neither son would be brought before the grand jury if Peterson allowed them to be interviewed at the county’s child advocacy center. On Thursday, Brodsky produced an unsigned letter he said he received from the state police in November that states the children’s interviews would be videotaped and “presented to the grand jury on Wednesday, November 7, in satisfaction of their testimonial requirement.”

    “I really think it’s the state police that are pushing this matter,” Brodsky said. “I think the reason they’re doing it is they’re not getting the results they want. Maybe they’re not getting the results they want because (Peterson is) innocent.”

    The state police have named Peterson a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance and have classified the case a “potential homicide.” The state police investigated Savio’s death in March 2004 and found no indications of foul play. They got another crack at it after Stacy vanished.

    In addition to Peterson’s two teenage sons, the grand jury has heard testimony from numerous men and women from Peterson’s past, including an ex-wife, a former fiancee, a stepdaughter, various friends and neighbors, and his mother and stepfather. Peterson questioned the necessity of subpoenaing not only his sons, but the others as well.

    “Ninety-nine percent of the people they’ve called haven’t been necessary,” he said, wondering who might be summoned next.

    “I’m waiting for them to get Lacy,” he said of his 3-year-old daughter. “Lacy, you want to go to the grand jury?”

    The young girl cried, “No,” and hid behind her father’s leg.

  38. Sorry – I put this post in the wrong thread:

    Has this story been linked yet?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-drewslaw_11jul11,0,5955816.story

    Stacy Peterson allies buoyed by bill on hearsay testimony

    Bill to ease limits on hearsay testimony sent to Blagojevich

    By Erika Slife | Chicago Tribune reporter
    11:54 PM CDT, July 10, 2008

    Friends and family of missing Bolingbrook woman Stacy Peterson rejoiced after state lawmakers Thursday sent to the governor’s desk legislation that could affect the possible prosecution of the chief suspect in her disappearance, her husband, Drew.

    “It’s a good Stacy day today,” said her close friend Sharon Bychowski. “Now Stacy’s life has more meaning than it did.”

    Sen. A.J. Wilhelmi (D- Joliet) sponsored a measure—which was pushed by Will County State’s Atty. James Glasgow—that would allow a judge to decide at a pretrial hearing whether hearsay testimony could be admitted into court.

    The prosecution would have to prove to the judge that the witness who made the statements could not testify because the defendant murdered the witness.

  39. I would consider it an honor, if you woud consider the above – with consideration that these are but snippets, considerably short than the considerably longer original stories.

    Now ‘consider’ just looks funny to me.

  40. Naw, he’s not going to blow. He’s not insane. He’s cold, callous, calculated and measures every single word that comes out of his mouth.

    “Lacy, you want to go to the grand jury.”

    What an environment those poor little souls have to live in.

    Blame the suspect. He holds the key to everything!

  41. Regarding the hearsay law, I haven’t seen anything that gives a time frame as to how long it will take to get to the Governor, and, if and when he does sign it, how long after that before it becomes law.

    Anyone see anything about that?

  42. 😆 Facs!

    Yep, good ‘ole jokester Drew.

    “Lacy, you want to go to the grand jury.”

    So very sad for the kids. Poor little girl. I wish it would sink in to him, that when they are older and see what he has done to their mothers – They will NEVER forgive him.

    At the very least, Kathleen’s kids can go and visit her grave. The little ones won’t even have that, the way this is going. 😦

  43. I do not believe that Drew is insane, not for one minute. I agree that he is cold and calculating. His sense of humor is cruel and crude. I believe he is a dangerous person and should be removed from society – the sooner those chidlren are able to start recovering from his ‘parenting’ the better for them!

  44. Was just reading to catch up and got a little tickled at the article Facs posted:
    ___________________________
    On Thursday, Brodsky produced an unsigned letter he said he received from the state police in November that states the children’s interviews would be videotaped and “presented to the grand jury on Wednesday, November 7, in satisfaction of their testimonial requirement.”
    ____________________________

    This is definitely not a laughing matter, but I could just visualize Joel running around flapping his UNSIGNED letter in Joe Hosey’s face saying “See! I told you the ISP said they weren’t going to call those boys to the GJ! I have an unsigned letter here to prove it. See? It’s from the ISP and here it is! All typed and everything!”

    Wonder who typed it and why wasn’t it signed? 😀

  45. OMG, hanging head, how did I miss that little piece of relevant information? Brodsky produced an “unsigned letter.”

    Maybe when he produces the signed one, we can all sit erect and at attention.

    ROFLMAO.

  46. Reminds me of the old, old show where Gomer Pyle waves his arms and screams, “Citizen’s arrest, citizen’s arrest!” …. or was it Barney Fife? .. anyway, you get the picture.

  47. rescueapet // July 11, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    OMG, hanging head, how did I miss that little piece of relevant information? Brodsky produced an “unsigned letter.”

    Maybe when he produces the signed one, we can all sit erect and at attention.

    *********************************

    Yeah those unsigned letters carry about as much weight as unsigned contracts in a courtroom.

    Wasn’t this guy in law enforcement for something like 30 years?

  48. And Brodsky says LE is not in compliance with HIS versions of the facts because why??????

    Noway, Noway. Can you ask the Brodskers why an unsigned letter he has in his possession is supposed to count for anything when he’s on SYM answering questions again. This outta be good.

  49. Right Facs….no signature, so contract, no case. BTW, the article does not state the letter was typed, but since most official correspondence is either typed or computer generated, I assume this one is one or the other…..

  50. Why would Brodsky make an issue of having an UNSIGNED letter from LE about the teens’ GJ appearance? Isn’t that basic, common knowledge that an unsigned anything is, well, just that, unsigned. It doesn’t hold anyone accountable.

    Besides, they hired an attorney for the teens, and since he wasn’t able to get the subpoenas quashed, I guess we all know the UNSIGNED letter didn’t mean diddly squat.

  51. No, CFS, he’s considering practicing law at his law practice. He still needs some practice. But, he’s practicing more and more every day.

  52. Well Rescue, all I can say is he’s running out of time. The curtains are about to go up. 😀

    Harley, I hate to say anything because as sure as I do, something will happen, but yes, it is nice here when everyone behaves themselves.

    Rescue, I don’t think Brodsky was making an issue of it. Sounds to me like Joe Hosey noticed it wasn’t signed and made sure to include “Brodsky SAID he received it from the state police.” I doubt Joel pointed it out to him, and Hosey knows enough about how Joel operates that he can expose him without a lot of ado about it. At least that’s what I think. Joel may have been surprised to see the article written like that, if he even noticed it. Just a hunch. 😀

  53. Hey Noway. You KNOW Joel would have that thrown out in a heartbeat! Yet, he expects others to take his word for an unsigned letter.

  54. CFS – that was pretty good thinking on your part. You have a point there and may be onto something!

  55. I’m waiting for Danya’s story about the hearsay law. Maybe they’ll be something in it about the time frame.

    You know, I wonder if the SA has to wait for the bill to be written into law before he could actually charge DP and use the law in his possible future trial. I mean, what if he was charged beforehand, before it becomes law, but passed prior to his possible trial?

    Complicated, huh?

  56. OT: I didn’t know about Sher getting flak. My post yesterday was supposed to be funny. I didn’t meant to hurt her.

  57. Noway, I have been reading here for a long time. Anyone else who has, should realize that you were joking. If they thought differently, then they must have misunderstood. I don’t believe you would intentionally hurt anyone.

  58. Can someone give me the link to the unsigned letter? I can’t find it. My blood pressure went sky high with that idiot putting Lacy in front of reporters asking her that-POS!

    Hello everyone! TGIF!

  59. The flak was some mean taunting at Ashley’s. I think Sher just was hoping the whole thing would go away.

    Noway had no idea what Sher had been subjected to.

  60. noway406 // July 11, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    OT: I didn’t know about Sher getting flak. My post yesterday was supposed to be funny. I didn’t meant to hurt her.
    —————————————————–
    Noway-I was there and immediately knew that you were joking. I’m sure that Sher just took it the wrong way and it will blow over. IMO-but what do I know? You are only mean when it comes to grammar and spelling 😉

  61. What’s that about someone’s back? Is that in reference to ‘return’ or a person’s spinal column? Yepper, it is Friday, wind down time!

  62. Duckyone – yeah, that I’d like to see. The letter that Brodsky has in his possession from LE that he says was their assurances the kids wouldn’t have to go before the GJ. If he’s so proud of it, he should show it. That’s fair enough.

  63. Ducky, as far as I know the “unsigned letter” has not been posted anywhere. It was only mentioned in Joe Hosey’s article about Kris appearing before the GJ yesterday. The article, in part, is upthread posted by Facs. I also posted a link to it I think. But no, there isn’t a copy of the letter anywhere I know of, except maybe in Joel’s hands.

  64. I would just love to see that letter. I doubt Brodsky will post it for 2 reasons:

    1 – He knows it is being discussed as unsigned.

    2- He doesn’t own a scanner! 😉 😛

  65. No scanner?

    Well, then, he could just retype it (ooops), and post in online. It’s not signed anyway, so it’s all the same to me.

  66. rescueapet // July 11, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    duckyone // July 11, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Brodsky is SO stupid!
    *************

    LOL, ya think?
    ——————————————————
    Sorry that I stated the obvious 😉

  67. Harley, I’m just curious, but are you sure Joel doesn’t own a scanner? I can’t imagine that, but nothing much surprises me anymore about him.

  68. Yep, very true Rescue. He could just type it, but I would fear something would get lost in his translation (sorry couldn’t help myself). 😉

    Thanks – on my pet. I rescued him. Some bozo put him and his siblings in a dumpster right after they were born! Thank goodness someone found them and brought them to the SPCA. 👿 Actually, both of my dogs I rescued.

    I like yours too, btw.

  69. OT: Harleyjoe: He’s a rescued pet too. The best way to get the best pets!

    His name is Harley! 🙂

  70. CFS – I’m wondering, and you know what happens when I wonder, what is going to happen next. 🙂

  71. OT: Lol…. his name is really Harley?
    I have to agree with the rescued ones. Best dogs in the world.

    You can just call me HJ – Much easier.

  72. We count on Noway to let us know what JB has to say on SYM, but I assume he’s not addressing the unsigned letter issue openly. I’m also disappointed that he’s pretty much silent on the legalities of the Matt Phelps issue too. Since JB says that Matt Phelps was lying, it’s beneficial to him to get the truth out in the open, isn’t it, and what better way than to push for the taped discussion to be made public? When you want him to talk, he doesn’t!

    *****
    OT – Harleyjoey – he came with the name (although, there’s a real Harley in the garage). His bio said: my couple split up and my girl couldn’t keep me.

  73. I googled and searched, and the only thing I can find about the hearsay issue is what we’ve already seen. That is, it’s on the Governor’s desk and it’s expected to be signed by him.

    Only, what I don’t know is how long after that does it take effect?

  74. Maybe Danya’s update will have some additional info. 😕 I find it encouraging that it passed.

    ~~~
    OT: I also have a furry Harley and a shiny one! Glad you gave him a home! Bittersweet bio!

  75. Peterson questioned the necessity of subpoenaing not only his sons, but the others as well.

    “Ninety-nine percent of the people they’ve called haven’t been necessary,” he said, wondering who might be summoned next.

    “I’m waiting for them to get Lacy,” he said of his 3-year-old daughter. “Lacy, you want to go to the grand jury?”

    The young girl cried, “No,” and hid behind her father’s leg.
    __________________

    This is truly sad. Broke my heart to read it this morning. I just hope this ends soon. Those children need a normal life outside of a “father” who uses his children and manipulates them. Shame on Drew for putting a beautiful 3 year old child in that position. Awful.

    Be back later this eve, all. Many errands today:) Have a good day. I know mine started off sad after reading the above:(

  76. Lavanda, I can’t help but feel Drew said that trying to be funny. In fact, I can mentally hear him saying it. He probably thought it would get him a laugh at his daughter’s expense, and the suggestion of it must have scared her. Worm!

  77. BTW, just saw on Ashley’s blog that she will not be posting anything new today, for anyone who might have been wondering. 😀

  78. I wonder…Has anyone else noticed the slowdown of posting and discussions on “Ashley’s Blog” ? I also wonder why ? Thoughts ?

  79. I agree with you CFS, but what he forgets is these are little kids. They don’t get his humor and I think it makes them afraid. 😦

    Having been a cop, I would think he would at least try to explain that they (police, etc…) are trying to do their job to find their mom. Instead, he has to keep it all about him. He is NOT a victim.

  80. Hi everyone! (still raining here…might stop Sunday!)

    Yuk. That “media alert” is more for the benefit of Joel and Glen than Drew, I think. I don’t think either are really being paid by Drew at all. Glen’s business comes out tops of Google searches because of this, and Joel, well, never seems to miss a chance for self-promotion, does he? You might have missed his advertisement at the bottom, with photo and slogan. You should take a look if you missed it. It’s hilarious.

    …and while I’m on the subject, while he was prancing around making television appearances and drinking in bars with Drew P, proper lawyering might have had him querying the unsigned state of the letter. What a prat.

  81. Wonderwoman (I want to sing that)
    it may be quieter because Ashley has another site that she’s moving it all to over the weekend, I think. People have already been posting there.

    http://drewpetersonforum.smfforfree4.com

    but people , like me,may have been staying away because of the usual personal attacks/drama that I don’t understand or care about.

  82. Thanks Bucket, but somehow I don’t that is it.
    I have already signed up at that sight to read only though…I only post one place…makes my life much easier….Kinda quiet here now….

  83. Wonderwoman, just stopped in a quick second to tell Noway something, and saw you here. I expressed my reasons upthread sometime this morning. People are getting upset with Ashley, as well as getting bored, not that I’m one of them mind you. She isn’t posting enough to keep people interested who just want to see her “stuff” and many of us don’t like to read or be involved in some of the crude drama that’s been taking place over there in the comment section. Just my opinion, for whatever it’s worth. 😀

  84. CFS thanks for responding…It’s a conversation starter I like to think…I tend to agree with what your saying. It is what it is …..

  85. Noway, I think you’ve been confused with Facs at Ashley’s. I think…..something about her behind. Might want to check it out. 😀

  86. wonder – I agree with CFS. People have short attention spans, and unless this all comes to to a head soon, they’re going to continue to drop off. Not that there’s not a lot of content there, I’m sure there is. But, unfortunately, the blog has turned into a slug fest, and it’s turning a lot of people away. Maybe even running for the hills now.

    It’s probably why DP and the rest of them kept such a low profile on this one. It’s losing punch probably. The different personalities that came out aren’t helping the situation either.

    That’s JMHO.

  87. Thanks Rescue also for responding, I think you both are right….So what’s next for this case is anyone’s guess I guess…Did I just type that ? LOL

  88. Wonder – that’s the $10,000 question. What’s next?

    I imagine, since there’s two separate issues, he’s going to be charged (if at all) with KS first. They have pictures, evidence, a body, an autopsy, etc., and if they can tie it all together, especially with the hearsay law in play, that will be first.

    As to SP, in all likelihood, there is a body, but they just don’t know where it is. I can’t imagine what’s going to happen anymore.

    What I do know is that he’s one strange and scary person, and it’s a shame he’s got four minor children to be responsible for!

  89. cfs7360 // July 11, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Noway, I think you’ve been confused with Facs at Ashley’s. I think…..something about her behind. Might want to check it out.
    ______________
    I wish I knew what this meant! 😀

    And what do we know about the weapons charge? Anything?

  90. Great post Rescue…..I also wonder…when the GJ is done..Is it possible that if they hand down an indictment in one case and n0t the other and if that does happen…Then ( and this is confusing even to me as I type this ) does the case that did not get an indictment have to go through an entire new GJ if new evidence is found etc or how does that work..anyone know?

  91. I get it now, cfs. Because I said the picture of Ashley was ‘not too bad’? I meant as far as the X-rated possibility … not judging her ass ets.

    😉

  92. I’m having trouble with the hearsay news. I’m seeing a descrepancy between what the Supreme Court ruled and the Illinois measure that passed.

    #1.
    “Last month, however, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that hearsay testimony could be admitted into trial if it is proven that the defendant’s wrongdoing made the witness unavailable to testify.”

    #2.
    “Sen. A.J. Wilhelmi (D- Joliet) sponsored a measure—which was pushed by Will County State’s Atty. James Glasgow—that would allow a judge to decide at a pretrial hearing whether hearsay testimony could be admitted into court.
    The prosecution would have to prove to the judge that the witness who made the statements could not testify because the defendant murdered the witness.”

    So…if you wanted to apply this to the Stacy Peterson/Kathleen Savio cases, would prosecution have to prove to the judge that Drew killed Stacy or just that he ‘made her unavailable to testify’? I would think that the latter could be interpreted pretty liberally, the first one not liberally at all.

  93. And to what degree of proof in any case? Shadow of a doubt, reasonable doubt, preponderance of the evidence indicates…?

  94. According to Joel Brodsky it is “clear and convincing evidence” that an “illegal act” kept the witness from testifying, that would allow hearsay to be introduced.

    That seems very liberal. Prosecution would NOT have to prove that Drew killed Stacy but that some illegal act kept her from testifying. I still don’t know what the prosecution would come up with, but at least it takes care of that weird chicken/egg thing that I thought I was seeing.

    Of course, this means you would need to believe what Le Brodsque is putting down.

    JOEL BRODSKY says:
    “The hearsay rule is complex. There are literally over a dozen exceptions. But in criminal cases the hearsay rule is embodied in the confrontation clause of the US constitution that says that the defendand has the right to face his accusers in open court. Therefore, if someone is a witness for the state in a criminal case they must come into court and testify in person. If the witness is not available, then no testimony. The law that they are trying to pass (and it is already judicial law, they are tyring to make it statutory law, is that if the state can show by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant caused the witness not to be available to testify by some illegal act then the defendant has forfeit his right to confrontation and the hearsay statement of the witness can be introduced.”

  95. Hi folks,
    This is Danya. I won’t be able to get the hearsay law update posted today as I had hoped (my car is leaking some sort of something at an astonishing rate and I had to take it in). I will be working the story over the weekend and Monday morning and will do my best to get it out before Drew’s court hearing on Monday. If possible, I’ll get your questions regarding the timeframe answered. In the meantime, I’ll be posting a short update tomorrow regarding an event in Stacy’s honor. Thanks for all the great discussion today folks.

  96. Clear and convincing evidence is not the same as beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution wont have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Drew killed Stacy or Kathleen, but only that there is convincing evidence and it’s clear what that evidence is. This is the way it was explained to me if it helps anyone. And the judge has to determine at a pre-trial hearing is the hearsay evidence presented will be admissable in a trial.

  97. I couldn’t find the transcript of the blip I heard on WBBM news radio today. However, what I remember is that before any hearsay evidence would be allowed, it would have to be presented and heard by the judge first, and he’d make his ruling on whether it is goes in.

    There were certain “safety measures” written in the law, obviously to protect the accused.

    Here is the actual bill information:

    SPRINGFIELD, IL – State Senator A.J. Wilhelmi (D-Joliet) and Will County State’s Attorney James W. Glasgow joined Representative Careen Gordon (D-Coal City) in the House Judiciary Criminal Law Committee to present the Forfeiture by Wrongdoing bill that passed the Senate on April 16th. The legislation that would allow prosecutors to enter into evidence relevant statements from witnesses who were killed to prevent them from testifying passed the House Committee.

    Senate Bill 2718 borrows from a rule in Federal courts that assists prosecutors in pursuing organized crime and drug cartels. In those particular cases, criminals killed, threatened or bribed witnesses to silence them. With the enactment of this bill, criminal defendants could no longer benefit from their illegal activities at trial by claiming that statements from witnesses they silenced are hearsay.

    “This bill gives prosecutors the ability to enter evidence into a court of law that a criminal defendant actively tried to suppress by murdering the witness. The goal of this legislation is to make sure that the full truth is heard by the jury,” said Senator Wilhelmi”

  98. CFS, it doesn’t even look as if they’d have to present evidence that he killed her but only that some illegal activy prohibited her from testifying. I guess it’s up to the judge to interpret that.

    Would intimidation qualify? What if they could show evidence that she was stalked and/or threatened? Might that be enough?

    Interesting.

  99. “In those particular cases, criminals killed, threatened or bribed witnesses to silence them.”

    Again…interesting.

  100. facsmiley // July 11, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    CFS, it doesn’t even look as if they’d have to present evidence that he killed her but only that some illegal activy prohibited her from testifying. I guess it’s up to the judge to interpret that.

    Would intimidation qualify? What if they could show evidence that she was stalked and/or threatened? Might that be enough?
    +++++++++++++++++
    That’s probably true Facs. I only used “killed” because that’s what I think happened to them. Who really knows what they might come up with as preponderance.

  101. Senate Bill 2718 borrows from a rule in Federal courts that assists prosecutors in pursuing organized crime and drug cartels. In those particular cases, criminals killed, threatened or bribed witnesses to silence them. With the enactment of this bill, criminal defendants could no longer benefit from their illegal activities at trial by claiming that statements from witnesses they silenced are hearsay.

    __________________

    I imagine killing someone because they were going to divuldge information to the police in regards to another murder, drug trafficking (or criminal activities)…..and the person who was going to divuldge this info was killed….. to silence them…would surely fall under this new hearsay law.

  102. add to that…the key words “threatened” and/or “bribed” would still fall under the same. Kudos to Illinios! Maybe all states will adopt this at some point, as well.

  103. Today at 5:27pm

    joelbrodsky wrote:

    We are finishing our prepreation for the hearing on the Motion To Dismiss the weapons case under 18 USC 926B (Law Enforcement Officer Saftey Act – LEOSA) which will be heard on Monday afternoon at the Joliet Illinois Courthouse. We (Andrew Abood and I) are very confident that the motion will be granted (even though the Judge may take a few weeks to render his opinion). The State has worked very hard to defeat our motion, and to his credit ASA John Conner has done as good a job as anyone can do in these circumstances. For those that actually like the law and legal arguments about real cases, Monday’s court should be very interesting. I will post on what happend in court on Monday evening.
    Of course for those that are just interested in scorn, lynch mob vengence, argument by insult, and garbage, stay on those other blogs. You have no business being on Speak Your Mind.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    come on now that is funny right!!

  104. Since we don’t know what evidence they have, I still go back to the statement that they know “she did not leave on her own”. That or something close to it was quoted back when he went on Larry King. That tells me that they know, way more than we do.

  105. …and that the heresay law will fit in this case. If they know she did not leave on her own -therefore they have some proof that he was behind that. Is what I was getting at.

  106. BRODSKY is not a good lawyer at all, I don’t believe anything he says nor do I believe drew either..
    I say drew is guilty .. ;0

  107. joelbrodsky wrote:

    Of course for those that are just interested in scorn, lynch mob vengence, argument by insult, and garbage, stay on those other blogs. You have no business being on Speak Your Mind.
    ***********************************

    In other words, please under no circumstances Speak Your Mind.

    …and now it’s Brodsky’s forum instead of BigM’s? Puppet, meet hand!

  108. Hmmm, would an unsigned letter be more likely to be admitted into evidence than a will with a forged signature? It’s a puzzle…

  109. LOL
    All day I’ve been thinking the court date was today even though I did really know if was July 14. Not enough sleep … too much caffeine? I don’t know.

  110. “argument by insult?”

    Boy, am I ever glad Brodsky doesn’t engage in anything like that, aren’t you?

  111. Well, this is interestin:

    joelbrodsky
    Newbie
    Posts: 1

    Re: Introductions
    « Reply #17 on: Today at 06:21:31 pm » Quote

    ——————————————————————————–
    Well I could not decide if I should post here. I decided to so everyone is on the same playing field.
    I will be reading and posting when apropos. Do not spam this board or I will leave!

    Report Spam Report to moderator Logged

    Ashley
    Administrator
    Newbie

    Posts: 15

    Re: Introductions
    « Reply #18 on: Today at 06:40:20 pm » Quote

    ——————————————————————————–
    Do not spam or he will leave ? If you are the real Joel Brodsky what makes you think anybody wants you here ? As for me ? I’m kinda split down the middle – a part of me dont want you here because you are trying ( notice I said trying ) to defend a killer and not to mention your a big liar and in my opinion a piece of shit, but then another part of me wants you here so these people can ask you questions & get some type of answer because the other board they all went to banned them , Hmmm what to do here and are you the real Joel Brodsky – I’ll let you know .

  112. Today at 5:27pm

    joelbrodsky wrote:

    Of course for those that are just interested in scorn, lynch mob vengence, argument by insult, and garbage, stay on those other blogs. You have no business being on Speak Your Mind.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    You know, this little paragraph sort of ticked me off, so I’m going to speak my mind right here on Word Press, since he’s obviously addressing other blogs and bloggers as well.

    How many here have seen Joel refer to people as: a**holes, POS, idiots, mentally ill, drug addicts, alcholic, obsessed, nosey, scorned, liars, media whore, crazy, unstable, and who knows what else? And he wants to accuse others of “argument by insult?” What’s the deal with people thinking they are the only ones who can speak there minds or express their opinions? Stay on other blogs??? I’ve got news for you Joel…..you lie with dogs, you get fleas, and that’s why I cancelled my membership at SYM. And I might also add, professionally speaking, you probably have no business on SYM either, but, hey, I don’t care where you blog. You could blog here if you wanted, but maybe this just isn’t your kind of place. However, you ARE just as free to post here as anyone, but I think you can see firsthand that people post where they feel welcome and enjoy the conversation, wouldn’t you agree?

    Can’t wait to hear about yours and Drew’s court appearance Monday, and yes, it will still be interesting to many, many of us on other blogs, but we can always read about it in the paper or other media.

  113. rescueapet // July 11, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    Aw, isn’t that special?

    Just popped on for a sec to say
    that one sentence just made me laugh so hard.. rescue you are one very funny person .. infact with all i have read in the last 20mins im sitting here dying with laughter your’re all very funny 🙂

    AND NO i dont think for one second this case is funny .. its just some of your responses are terriffic and funny 🙂

    Cyas thanks for making me giggle for a change

  114. What timeframe was Danya talking about? Once again, I come in at the last minute and want to be updated. lol

  115. “Do not spam this board or I will leave!”

    Bloated sense of self-importance much? Don’t let the door it you on the way out…

  116. Are any of you guys who registered on Ashley’s new forum (not the blog) aware that there’s a registered member, by the name of joelbrodsky? Where have I heard that name before?

  117. Well I could not decide if I should post here. I decided to so everyone is on the same playing field.
    I will be reading and posting when apropos. Do not spam this board or I will leave

  118. rescueapet // July 11, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Are any of you guys who registered on Ashley’s new forum (not the blog) aware that there’s a registered member, by the name of joelbrodsky? Where have I heard that name before?
    —————————————————-
    At a comedy club?

  119. Oh man!!! I just posted that about him blogging at SYM, and now he’s on Ashley’s??? Are you kidding me?? Unbelievable.

  120. Ah, never mind, I see I’m a day late and a dollar short. Sorry, facsmiley.

    Ducky – I asked Danya about the time frame regarding how long it will be from the time the current hearsay bill gets signed by the Gov, until it’s actually put into place. Also, I’m not sure how long it’ll actually be on his desk to sign, since he’s probably going to have staff do some reference work, etc., before he signs or not.

  121. Joel is really cracking me up.

    While the other lawyers are busy doing their job (working on Drew’s weapons charge case) Joel is busy blogging with us.

    Does anyone else find this slightly ridiculous?

    Is it really Joel who is registered on Ashley’s?

  122. Rescue-thank you! I knew that I could count on you. Don’t tell anyone, but I think you are a pretty cool person. 😉

  123. Noway – I guess you could always ask him for confirmation at SYM.

    CFS – I didn’t mean to pressure you. You should do what you want.

  124. noway406 // July 11, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Joel is really cracking me up.

    While the other lawyers are busy doing their job (working on Drew’s weapons charge case) Joel is busy blogging with us.

    Does anyone else find this slightly ridiculous?

    Is it really Joel who is registered on Ashley’s?
    ———————————————————
    Slightly ridiculous? Nope, VERY ridiculous! I bet that it is him. He’s just that dumb!

    He’s quacking me up too! 😉

  125. CFS – your post was awesome. Just great. You blew that mope right out of the water.

    Wonder who he got to write that for him, because he doesn’t ever, never, engage in that type of thing that he’s whining about.

    Nope, not Brodsky.

  126. By registering on Ashley’s forum, I guess he was covering his bases.

    He’d cfs’ post above and realized HE was interested in “scorn, lynch mob vengence, argument by insult, and garbage” … and realized HE too had no business on SYM.

    IMO
    😉

  127. facsmiley // July 11, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Umm…I posted something snarky.

    I was bad.
    *********************************
    OH CRAP, I LOL on the SNARKY comment, LOL!!!

  128. Ok, I want to tell them over @ Ashleys something… Lets all guess what that certain something is… LOL!!
    Some moron is going on & on & on &on & on about Drews bra pic…WGARA!!! OK?…… OK!!!

  129. Facsmiley – I’m going to need to have a talk with you. You’re not playing nice with the new kid on the block. You’re going to make him feel sappy, and he’s going to want to run home to his papa and whine.

    Do you want me to have to talk to the Admin and have your posting privileges curtailed?

    Now, the next time you’re feeling in the mood for snarky, tell us, would ya? Maybe we can help. We don’t want the Brods to feel unwelcome and scorned.

    By the way. I had to look it up. Please don’t use those big words again.

    1 : crotchety, snappish 2 : sarcastic, impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner
    — snark·i·ly Listen to the pronunciation of snarkily \-kə-lē\ adverb

  130. Sorry, got behind and had a lot of reading to catch up on. Thank you to the ones who commented about my post. I’ll be back in a few.

  131. I’m not here very often, but read something about a picture of Ashley.

    Went thru yesterday & today’s posts but cannot find it.

    Does anyone have a link to it?

  132. sher69 // July 11, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Ok, I want to tell them over @ Ashleys something… Lets all guess what that certain something is… LOL!!
    Some moron is going on & on & on &on & on about Drews bra pic…WGARA!!! OK?…… OK!!!
    ++++++++++++++
    Sher, what is WGARA???

  133. luvpups // July 11, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I’m not here very often, but read something about a picture of Ashley.

    Went thru yesterday & today’s posts but cannot find it.

    Does anyone have a link to it?
    ++++++++++++++++

    h ttp://profiles.yahoo.com/real_ashley

  134. Lug, I haven’t been on the blog tonight, but I did go over to the forum for just a minute to post something. But no, nothing going on that I know of, except that according to some posters here, Joel has joined, or is trying to join Ashley’s forum.

  135. cfs7360 // July 11, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Lug, I haven’t been on the blog tonight, but I did go over to the forum for just a minute to post something. But no, nothing going on that I know of, except that according to some posters here, Joel has joined, or is trying to join Ashley’s forum.
    ——————————————–

    LOL that is to funny . I wouldn’t want him on a forum teehee. he just wants to see what is going on to use it for his court time ….

    I just don’t like joel at all, he gives a bad name to lawyers … ya know…. he seems to me he is playing both sides to see what people think … and maybe what he sees online he will use it to his advantage ya know.

  136. cfs7360 // July 11, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    luvpups // July 11, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I’m not here very often, but read something about a picture of Ashley.

    Went thru yesterday & today’s posts but cannot find it.

    Does anyone have a link to it?
    ____________________

    Any bets that it’s not Ashley? With an apple tushy like that, why would she have to be online looking for dates? If it is, I fear the front side of that pic.

  137. Lugnut: I just don’t like joel at all, he gives a bad name to lawyers … ya know…. he seems to me he is playing both sides to see what people think … and maybe what he sees online he will use it to his advantage ya know.
    _____________-

    I’m with you. Not too mention, nothing like announcing to the world that he isn’t busy. What lawyers have time to be blogging and chit chatting and arguing on the net? Oh me oh my! Drew is gonna be in some deep doo doo when trial comes. Course I suspect that’s when he will turn on Brodsky…when he realizes his “lawyer” was wrong on his entire strategy. YIKES! That will be a future blog in itself!

  138. Any bets that it’s not Ashley? With an apple tushy like that, why would she have to be online looking for dates? If it is, I fear the front side of that pic.

    ————————————————————

    Lavonda, you are get the gold star for the night IMO. Actually you get 2 for saying so much in so few words…for once… 😉 just teasin ya a little

  139. teneleven // July 11, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Any bets that it’s not Ashley? With an apple tushy like that, why would she have to be online looking for dates? If it is, I fear the front side of that pic.

    ————————————————————

    Lavonda, you are get the gold star for the night IMO. Actually you get 2 for saying so much in so few words…for once… just teasin ya a little
    _______________________

    ROFL. Love it! yes, I’m trying to learn;) G’nite and catch up with ya all tomorrow:)

  140. Thanks for the support. I know it was kind of…out there…but I don’t think I’ve ever read a more rude ‘introduction’ to someone else’s forum, and I don’t care who he is.

  141. I still laugh when I think of him telling the members not to post spam or he’d leave.

    I wanted to say: Don’t make promises you won’t keep.

    But I’m trying to behave. If ever there was a reason to post spam … 😀

  142. “I’m waiting for them to get Lacy,” he said of his 3-year-old daughter. “Lacy, you want to go to the grand jury?”

    The young girl cried, “No,” and hid behind her father’s leg.

  143. I’ve been trying to sleep for hours. This just popped into my head and I had to sign in.

    Can anyone tell me why Drew didn’t go with either of the kids to their GJ testimony? Would the court exclude him for driving or being there because he’s a suspect?

  144. I don’t know, but it’s got to be a good thing that he wasn’t able to breathe down their necks all the way there.

  145. It really creeps me out the way he asked him if he’d told the truth. ..And that he stood outside with an audience to do so.

  146. bucket almost everything he does creeps me out.the truth question gets me too. i jsut cant imagine. i was 12 parents got divorced, judge to me feisty who would you like to live with. me to the judge my mom but please dont tell my dad. i remember them 2 sentences like it was yesterday & it was 35 yrs ago. i just cant imagine being those boys all the questioing then having to go home to him. i know the boys love him & im glad they need someone to love. & i hope they feel their father loves them cuz in the right now thats who they got. in years to come i thnk they will see him for what he is.

  147. aww bucket you are sweet! somedays its like i cant get the 2 boys out of my head. sad life all around for them. lets pray better days are ahead for them

  148. Goodmorning all. Each morning, for the past several months, I start up my computer, read the latest news regarding Stacy Peterson and family, and then say a short prayer for those searching, that they be given wisdom and that they find Stacy. One news story had a link to this site. I signed up to be able to once again present my theories and ideas, as I have blogged various web sites with no response back.
    I am hoping that a visitor here can help me contact Mr Taylor, who appears to be searching for blue plastic barrels. In all of my prior attempts to reach him with my thoughts and ideas, I have had no response at all. 😦

  149. usafblue
    I am hoping that a visitor here can help me contact Mr Taylor, who appears to be searching for blue plastic barrels. In all of my prior attempts to reach him with my thoughts and ideas, I have had no response at all.
    __________________________________
    Have you tried this info from FSP? Maybe send an email with Roy’s attention? Or called the Family Tip Line Number?

    I’m not sure if anyone else has any ideas or has direct contact with the family.

    Contact Information
    If you have any information on the whereabouts of Stacy or wish to send us a message, please use this following information:

    Illinois State Police Tip Line:
    815-740-0678
    Family Tip Line:
    866-847-5143
    Postal address:
    Friends of Stacy Peterson
    PO Box 1112
    Bolingbrook, IL 60440
    Electronic mail:
    findstacypeterson@gmail.com

    http://www.findstacypeterson.com/contact.htm

  150. Some Words o’ Wisdom from everyone’s favorite defense attorney, Joel A. Brodsky. I call today’s entry:

    “WHAT’S THE HURRY?”

    Joel A. Brodsky said…
    The old rush to judgment. I am always amazed at impatience in charging someone. The old saying “measure twice, cut once”, is so true. Authorities should check things out thoroughly before they charge someone. Whats the hurry?

  151. Howdy gotoutandhappynow. Yes, I have been to their website many times. Read all that is there, and written twice with no response. I have not written “Attention Mr Taylor” but will do that. Thank you for the idea, as it did not occur to me. In my writtings, I assumed that the reader would contact all of the individuals that my letter applied to, however, no response at all made me wonder, so I sent the second letter as “high priority”. If I get no response to the 3rd letter, marked “Attention Mr Taylor” I will go ahead and call them by phone.

  152. usafblue … why exactly are you trying to get to him? Maybe he thinks you’re nuts?

    Why not contact the police and have them give your number to Mr. Taylor? If the police verify that you’re not a whacko, maybe he’ll get in touch with you.

    I have the feeling that everyone involved is a little cautious thesee days.

  153. usa – I have to agree with Noway. There’s no guarantee that an unsolicited email or letter will be answered by any recipient.

    If I were you I would jsut assume that they’ve read whatever you have sent and for whatever reason are not interested in replying.

    It sounds like you’ve made numerous attempts attempts. If you keep contacting someone and insisting on a reply it starts to look kind of stalker-y.

    IMO

  154. “numerous attempts attempts”

    Sorry, this looks like some sort of word game.

    Like “You’re Under Arrest”

    Arrest
    You’re

    Get it? “you’re” is UNDER “arrest”.

    Yeah…..ok.

  155. joelbrodsky
    Member
    ****
    member is offline

    [send pm]

    Joined: May 2008
    Gender: Male
    Posts: 146

    Re: Ashley Blog Discussion # 2
    « Reply #33 Today at 10:15am » [Quote]
    Please get this message out:
    The person who is trying to register under my name at the “http://drewpetersonforum.smfforfree4.com” blog is an imposter. I did not try to register at that site.

  156. Thanks facs …. stalker-y is much better sounding than whacko … but I think we’re on the same page with that.

  157. Well, then, consider the message as having been given out.

    I’d just like to mention that I have no use for what the real or imposter Joel Brodsky has to say anyway.

    JMHO.

  158. Tribute – well, so much for that.

    Thanks for passing that on.

    I still think they should let him stay and see what he says. Maybe make him change his name to ‘FakeJoelBrodsky’.

    The intro was totally believable, though. Remember when he registered at SYM he said something like he was going to try it out as long as the “FSP crazies” didn’t take over?

  159. Darn!

    A fake Joel.

    I was going to try to ask him the question Bash had about what locksmith Drew had used to get into Kathleen’s house and whether it took that professional 1 hour or 4-6 hours to get in there.

    😀

  160. Howdy noway406, I am trying to “get to him” after watching and listening to him on a video as he was searching for, retrieving and drilling large holes in blue plastic barrels. It is possible that he thinks I am “nuts” but I doubt that is the case for no replies, as my theory is soundly backed by many years of personal experience, and was presented in a somewhat scientific mannor that made sense to three other individuals. I read my letters to them and then edited them prior to sending. In regards to contacting the Police, I have no “tip” as to where Stacy is, nor evidence as such, only theories, and so contacting the Police seemed a bit out of line to me. I do believe that you are correct in that to error on the side of caution is wise. Thank you for your ideas and thoughts.

  161. Well, here’s one thing I’m thinking about the real/fake Joel Brodsky. If it gets the attention of Ashley, she can compare the IP with any that she has on her blog to see if there’s a match. Possibly, that IP appears on both.

    Then again, maybe she doesn’t give a hoot, and, like with anything else lately, it’ll fly or it’ll fall. Makes no difference to me.

  162. So … he didn’t “try” to register, he “succeeded”?

    Fake Joel? Real Joel?

    Is anyone else getting dizzy?

    Well, regardless of fake or real … could I get the answer to Bash’s question from so long ago from BOTH of them?

  163. Hey Basherette – How are you?

    You know that *is* JB?

    If it is, he’s now denying it, rather than just shutting the heck up and letting it die out?

    Ah, what was I thinking when I considered that possibility??????

  164. Did his IP give him away?

    Maybe it was JOEL chatting with ASHLEY under DREW’s name.

    After all … who would know all that stuff about Drew Peterson?

  165. Found his quote fromwhen he signed on at SYM:

    “I was sent an e-mail to check out your board. It seems very fair minded. However, I fear that if I start posting I will attract the FSP fourm posters who will overwhelm this board with their unthinking comments. They stalk the internet and did this on another board I did some posting on. Lets see what happens.

    Joel A. Brodsky”

  166. usafblue, contact the police to have them set up the initial contact. Has nothing to do with having a tip.

    As far as “as my theory is soundly backed by many years of personal experience, and was presented in a somewhat scientific mannor that made sense to three other individuals” … if those individuals were Drew, Joel, and Glenn … well … enough said. 😀

    What is your theory? What does it have to do with?

    I’m sure someone who is close to Mr. Taylor is reading here and it might help if you could give them some more info … in case your letters got misplaced.

  167. If it’s the real JB, I don’t understand his logic in registering on Ashley’s board, when her purpose is to slime his client, him and their PR rep, based on public statements they’ve already made.

    Better be careful. From my observations, ain’t Ashley happy, ain’t nobody happy.

    🙂

  168. Oh, yeah, it’s *himself* at “Ashley’s” new forum, alright…

    Stupid puffed-up bugger that he is- honestly, he’s going to need a lawyer of his own before this sordid serial killer soap opera finally sinks into oblivion.

    Gads… apparently alliteration is the allegorical apple of my eye today.

    Hurm… perhaps I should have a nap about now. Yes, quite.

  169. Rescue – it ocurred to me as well that it may have been JB and that he is trying to back out of it as ‘gracefully’ as possible. In other words by lying and denying any involvement. Classic.

    Yeah Ashley could look for an IP match from her blog, and it would show if that person had posted before. No proof that it is or isn’t Brodsky tho…

    I guess BigM wouldn’t be up for sharing JB’s IP from his site with Ashley for comparison? No? Huh, didn’t really think so…

    🙂

  170. Good morning/afternoon friends, I am off to nap and thus keep alliteration from littering this somber space.

    Well, at least until I wake, that is. 🙂

    Tah tah for now, I am proverbially and perfectly pooped.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

  171. Basherette, it’s a literal prepositional word game.

    So, look at how the words are positioned – one under the other…and it translates to the phrase.

    There’s a name for them but I can’t remember it.

  172. Joel posted at SYM:

    joelbrodsky
    Member

    member is offline

    Re: Peterson Case Discussion # 3
    « Result #7 Today at 10:17am »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Please get this message out:
    The person who is trying to register under my name at the “htt p://drewpetersonforum.smfforfree4.com” blog is an imposter. I did not try to register at that site.

  173. giveitarest … is this something different than posted above? I mean other than being posted in a different thread on SYM?

  174. noway406, I will take your advice and contact the Police.
    Mr Taylor while using the new boat the “Stacy Ann” mentioned that a blue barrel had him “freaked out” The barrel was a 35 gallon plastic molded barrel. In viewing his ‘procedures’ I was alarmed that he may be unknowingly destroying critical evidence. My theory is quite simple really… however, in respect for the ongoing investigation and the truth, I do not wish to present it here in open forum. I will say that it involves obtaining neutral bouyancy of an object in flowing water, search methods, care of potential evidence, and the characteristics of molded plastic barrels, of which I have over 24 years experience. Again, thank you for your thoughts. I will log off and get a bite to eat. Take care. 🙂

  175. giveitarest // July 12, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Do we have the IP?

    “““““““““““““““`

    Clarifying – DON’T post it. Just thought Ashley may have gotten the nads to post it.

  176. Noway – That IP mapping site narrowed down my location to “United States” and gave me a map of Washington DC.

  177. It puts me at an office of my ISP in another state.

    That’s why I wondered how well it worked for anyone else!

    If you have a major carrier (aol, msn) then it probably can’t narrow you down.

    Lug … I’m there where are you?

  178. lol
    That makes it sound like we’re in the same state. Maybe a state of confusion! Ooh … pretty colors and sounds!

  179. found this on ashleys

    Re: Introductions
    « Reply #36 on: Today at 12:33:14 pm » Quote Modify Remove

    ——————————————————————————–
    I think Ashley needs to introduce herself before I can get behind this. Until I know that the information she is supplying is not stolen or that this site has not been created by Brodsky or Drew in some twisted reason having to do with judging peoples views and stances I sit back and watch. Any evidence not legally obtained by Ashley can not be used in a trial. Even that receipt she showed can not be used if the person who sent it to her got it without drews permission and they will have to prove how it was gotten. If anything was taken off of Drews computer without his permission or a warrant it will be thrown out.

  180. I’ve looked at three of those IP thingies and they each listed somewhere different! One even listed the wrong broadband provider,and in the Isle of Man. I think they must just be the registered addresses of the providers. (Isle of Man would have loads of addresses…big tax haven.)

  181. Ashley’s site might very well be an attempt by Brodsky to get other girls to go to “ashley” with evidence they might have about Drew and then sidetrack them from going to the police.

  182. Itsallabout – I’ve seen that theory before. TO me I just don’t see Brodsky as being that creative. Plus that’s a LOT of work – isn’t he supposed to be super super busy?

  183. Itsall, it could be an attempt I suppose. Personally, I don’t think Brodsky is that smart, nor has thought that far in advance. The proof is sort of in the pudding, you know? What brilliance has he displayed thus far? None that I can see.

  184. itsallboutmeash,

    Interesting, a hoax by PI’s to flesh out any info and collect people IPs to use in court to show how poor DP was cyberstalked and setup. Can you imagine all the people swapping info to try to get info on Ashley.

    I am not positive about that theory, yet.

    Something about Ashley is very familiar and her/his hatred towards some usernames makes me think we have known Ashley before.

    Now, maybe it is a combination of both things.

  185. For one thing, I don’t think Ashley cares one way or another what’s obtained legally and what can or can’t be used in court. Really, honestly, I don’t believe that is what drives her.

    What you will notice about Ashley, if you read her comments, at least the ones I’ve read on her blog, is that she is very well up on everything that is related to the issues in both of these matters, and she is very well researched. She can fit the bill of most everyone here that blogs on a daily basis.

    I believe it’s clear that she is outraged by how DP has slimed his wives and love interests, but living and deceased, and accused them of many of the things he’s been shown by her to be doing, except he denies it publicly and does it privately.

    Actually, she is using some of the techniques from JB’s rule book. She’s keeping Peterson in the limelight, keeping people interested in his story, only her way of doing it sure isn’t what JB had in mind.

    JMHO!!!!!

  186. Heh- I need to eat lunch and clean the catbox…and/or my basement which the cats have decided is one big cat box.

    Later all!

  187. Something to ponder,

    What would you do if you client’s personal info was being posted on an internet website?

    Why isn’t someone jumping up and down to all the news shows complaining about cyber-stalking?

    When was the last time JB turned down free news coverage?

    Do you think that the owners of the 2 super secret SP forums have asked Ashley to come join their sleuthing forums? What type of info is on the secret sleuthing forums? (I know someone that would love to know)

  188. IMO, he isn’t jumping up and down to all the news shows because, even if he is correct and someone has done something that some would call “cyber-stalking,” his client is not looking real good as far as the content is concerned. This is all about PR, not catching DP admitting to someone that he killed one and/or two wives. He’s merely been caught, through his own words, lying about his activities as opposed to his PR guy’s portrayal of him. That’s it. It’s not that complicated. If a tidbit happens to be buried within his chats that might be helpful to LE, then they’ll do with it what they will. Otherwise, it’s just shining the spotlight on his lies.

  189. Hey guy’s I just woke up….need coffee. Shark and I were up all night fixing our forum, we didn’t know guests couldn’t see all the boards. Then we made a section guests can post in, it’s making fun of the bashley blog, we have a defend yourself thread. It’s all in good fun and we will keep an eye on it to delete if anyone gets too personal. You all have permission to bury anything we don’t catch in a timely manner. Have you seen it yet?
    http://myblueshark.smfforfree2.com/index.php/board,76.0.html

  190. I wonder….What else could “Ashley” still have at this point…Oh how I wonder….Afternoon ladies and gents….such a beautiful day here..

  191. Pamom40ish, I don’t have a clue what two super secret SP sleuthing boards you’re talking about, so they really must be secret. What boards are you referring to?

  192. I bet Ashley hasn’t even touched the tip of the iceberg yet. (Is that how the saying goes??) It seems as though she’s debating whether to continue or not. I hope she does. What do you think she should do?

  193. cfs7360,
    There are 2 that I know of, formed by the early banned members of FSP.
    One has a very similar name to Ashley’s blog.

  194. shark – On the defend yourself thread do we need to be attacked in order to defend ourselves or should we just go in all defensive-like?

  195. This is all getting insane. Boards, boards, boards!

    CFS – are you asking if we think Ashley should continue posting her logs? Just wanted to clarify that before I answers.

  196. facsmiley – you just never cease to amaze me with your quick wit! I love it. Not only because it makes me laugh, but it makes absolute sense!

  197. Yes, and I meant to address that to Wonderwoman and her previous post, but forgot to put her name on it.

  198. There is another forum out there that holds many of the offensive DELETED posts from FSP(not to mention some other message boards). Including some that point to SP and others in a different light.

    What FSP never intended (IMO) was to give a life to some of this garbage and it is all out there, just waiting to be found by PIs.

    Every picture that was deleted, every threat, every post pointing to SP in some far off land, and more…

    Every bit of it just waiting to used by the defense.

  199. pamom40ish-are you on the board that you speak about? How can posts from members be used to defend Drew?

    This is getting way too complicated.

  200. Well Pam, I guess if it’s there, it’s there. I saw things on FSP just reading there that blew my mind, but it’s pretty much like that on every board or blog I’ve read on. Some you can stomach, some you can’t. Maybe the defense AND the prosecution is going to have a lot to use from all of these various forums, boards, blogs, and sites. Like Rescue, I’m just waiting on the final chapter of this book.

  201. MBS-can I ask why you would start such a thing on your forum? I’m not attacking you in any way. I guess there is a board for anyone/everyone and you have to find a match for yourself. I’m perplexed on the bashing Ashley and defending yourself threads. Did Ashley do something to you. Seriously, maybe I need to get more coffee? I really am lost.

  202. cfs7360,
    yes I agree and much of it will be used to muddy the water during any court cases. There is a lot out there and the more garbage they can throw, the better.

    We can all guess what the defense number one theory will be, we have all heard it from day one. Some have waving the flag very high that SP is out there seeking revenge and it makes me ill to think of it be used in court. Step one, ruin SP, step two ruin her family and friends reputations.

  203. pamom40ish // July 12, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    duckyone,
    maybe, maybe even yours
    ———————————————-
    You are on my board. Well, thank you for the support. lol

  204. “SP is out there seeking revenge and it makes me ill to think of it be used in court. Step one, ruin SP, step two ruin her family and friends reputations”

    I think a defense would be very hard put to get any of that admissable as evidence. They would need to prove relevance. I’m just not seeing it.

    IMO

  205. pamom40ish, this is what Ashley has stated is her reason for the blog:

    ” I am doing this to show drews true character because if my spouse was missing I sure as hell would not be on yahoo trying to pick up females ( its does not prove he is a murderer but like I said it sure says alot about him in general )”

  206. Another time she stated:

    “I just thought people would like to see how the killer was acting with wife # 4 missing ( dead I say ) and wife # 3 re-classified a homicide”

  207. duckyone // July 12, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    MBS-can I ask why you would start such a thing on your forum? I’m not attacking you in any way. I guess there is a board for anyone/everyone and you have to find a match for yourself. I’m perplexed on the bashing Ashley and defending yourself threads. Did Ashley do something to you. Seriously, maybe I need to get more coffee? I really am lost
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    No, you can ask, I don’t think you are attacking. Maybe it’s misunderstood. It is to make fun of what Ashley’s blog has turned into, and let those attacked on her blog defend themselves. I am not mad at ashley, I’m just put out at the anon posters attacking everyone, and the allowing of personal information left on the blog. I have no beef with ashley, just the stuff going on at what I now call “bashley’s blog”. You know “turn the other cheek” to the attackers, it just happens to be one of my bottom cheeks this time. 🙂

  208. And again:

    “I dont think this case is in the media enough anymore , Hence the reason I am doing what I am doing – just trying to get it going again or help keep it alive”

  209. and this:

    “One of my deciding factors was although this does not prove he is a killer , it sure does show how he was really acting when not on talk shows claiming to love Stacy , it shows he is a liar in many ways , it shows that Stacy being gone dont mean shit to him ,it shows how serious Larry Kings show was to him , its shows his true character , and lots more ..”

    Now I’m done. Don’t want to be accused of spamming!

  210. I hope it works out BlueShark. Since so many of those people post anonymously, I’m afraid they will do the same thing at your site and then you’ll end up with Ashley’s outta control comments #2!

    Sincerely hope that doesn’t happen. I’m sure you don’t want to have to babysit your site like people want Ashley to do on her blog.

  211. facsmiley // July 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    shark – On the defend yourself thread do we need to be attacked in order to defend ourselves or should we just go in all defensive-like?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    LOL! Hey I’m just givin’ peeps a place to BS.
    I will admit I have been very upset at the personal info and lies left at bashleys, that was my original motivation for this section. I just took a satirical theme. It’s my way to make fun and give others a chance to clear the air. I guess the most I could hope for is that eventually “they” will get tired of bashing , then we can have some real conversations. I may not agree with everyone, but I can debate that with out attacking. I like people who share the same interests, so what if we don’t agree.

  212. MBS, I’m just curious, but did you extend the invitation on Ashley’s site as well or is it still locked down as she said this morning? I clicked on your link to read a bit at your site, but I don’t think I would be able to contribute anything. Thank you for the invitation though, and like Facs said, I hope it will work out for you.

  213. facsmiley // July 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    I hope it works out BlueShark. Since so many of those people post anonymously, I’m afraid they will do the same thing at your site and then you’ll end up with Ashley’s outta control comments #2!

    Sincerely hope that doesn’t happen. I’m sure you don’t want to have to babysit your site like people want Ashley to do on her blog.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Well if need be, we will put more mods in place, but if ya see something you don’t like bury it, we don’t care. (that is my ONLY beef with ashley)

  214. cfs7360 // July 12, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    MBS, I’m just curious, but did you extend the invitation on Ashley’s site as well or is it still locked down as she said this morning? I clicked on your link to read a bit at your site, but I don’t think I would be able to contribute anything. Thank you for the invitation though, and like Facs said, I hope it will work out for you.
    ——————————————————-
    I agree. Thanks for the invitation.

    I don’t see this having a very happy ending. More fuel to the fire. IMO.

  215. Re: Ashley – isn’t that what I’ve been saying all along? Ashley’s showing Drew to be a victim of his own “methods?”

    When DP went on tv shows in the past, and got quoted in the press, he made it his sole determination to put his missing wife in a bad light, by saying she was taking on secret lovers by getting and sending text messages, and, ultimately, ran away with one of them. Add to that the pms’ing and depression over losing her sister. Not once has DP yet proven that he caught his wife in the act of infidelity. Merely insinuates that she was cheating on him, and he’s done everything he can to portray her in that light.

    Now that the tables have been turned on him, the naysayers are coming out of the woodwork, defending him with ideas of cyber-stalking, and driving him to the point of cracking under the pressure. Last, but not least, they are taking to task the woman that has nailed him to the wall with the same crap he’s been using himself!! I think it’s great.

    What is happening now is turning Ashley’s thought provoking ideas on its head.

    Yup, CFS, I WONDER if Ashley should re-think this all, meaning stop putting it out in dribs and drabs, and just do it once and for all.

    The GJ is wrapping up, LE knows what it’s going to do, and the rest will fall into place.

  216. I am still seeing a brand new TV pilot here.
    “You have been Cyber-Punked”

    Lawyers first response to that should be to go straight to LE and file charges, then Ashley will be flushed out, real name and address. Why has there been nothing done? Why haven’t we heard a whisper from those close to investiagtion about them looking into Ashley?

    Is the puppet master not allowing his puppet to file charges for some reason?

  217. pamom40ish // July 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    I am still seeing a brand new TV pilot here.
    “You have been Cyber-Punked”
    ———————————————-
    Do you think that she has punked us or it’s Drew and Brodsky?

    I’m sure that LE is fully aware of her blog and is monitoring it. I think that she should have gone to LE first. Maybe she did and they said that she had nothing of value? I don’t know.

    In regards to the bashing of family, friends etc., I haven’t seen a perfect family or perfect friends in any case. There are always skeletons and usually criminals don’t surround themselves with the “picture perfect” friends. I think that there are more shady people on Drew’s side then on Stacy’s and Kathleen’s. JMO.

    To clarify something to Pamom-I have never trashed Stacy Peterson or Kathleen Savio and I never will.

    Bashing brings on more bashing. It’s a vicious cycle that takes away from why we are really here, or at least why I am here. JMHO

  218. cfs7360 // July 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    I bet Ashley hasn’t even touched the tip of the iceberg yet. (Is that how the saying goes??) It seems as though she’s debating whether to continue or not. I hope she does. What do you think she should do?
    ********** I think she should just throw it all out there now, but the truth behind my thoughts are that I just want to know it all and NOW !! LOL..I just can’t imagine what else she has, other than more of the same stuff she has shown us…I mean how much worse could it get ya know ?? I wonder…..hmmmmmmmmm

  219. duckyone,
    IMO, she is a puppet.

    I find severals things very odd, especialy the Cass thing that went on over there, call me odd but I believe Cass needs to be protected.

    There is more here than meets the eye.

    I told you all I have 2 running theories, Ashely being a puppet holds the most water right now.

    I have been lurking at a lot of sites for months, something is telling me there is more here.

    What is your theory on this? Do you think she is holding out for an interview? What is the purpose, what has she told us that we all haven’t known?

  220. Can we go use the thread that has the news posted on it, we could leave a message that we are over there? This thread is long and slow.

  221. pamom-I believe all victims and their families should be protected. The system failed Kathleen and therefore failed Stacy Peterson too. I didn’t see what was said about Cassandra, so I can’t comment on it, but if it attacked her, it’s wrong. IMO If Ashley and Drew never met or spoke to each other, I don’t know what more that she can have that “holds the most water.” This Ashley business came out of the blue and I have no “theory” on it. What’s her purpose? To me, she seems to want to make Drew squirm. I said the other day that I didn’t get all the hoopla over it, we know that Drew is a scum, womanizer, jerk, idiot etc. I better stop or my post will be very long. JMHO

Comments are closed.