Your Thread – July 24

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201 thoughts on “Your Thread – July 24

  1. DP and his lawyer were on the CBS Morning Show. I missed it. Did anyone see it? Not that they’d have anything useful to say, those two.

    Grandma – I guess I am surprised! If nothing else, I came to learn that “Ashley” was very informed about every minute detail dealing with Peterson. Now I know why.

  2. Wish I could access your television better! Did/ Will Drew find out onscreen? Can’t wait to find out what’s happening/happened on TV appearances this am.

    must be patient….

  3. So… You think you’re chatting with THIS

    And “she” turns out to be THIS

    My hub was right all along!
    He tells me all the time "You never know who you’re chatting with"………….

  4. Hey, Bucket… come and watch mine while I’m at work and then I can catch up when I get home! LoL!

  5. I wonder…what kind of excitement today will bring….All I can say about “Ashley’s” true identity is ……..WOW HOLY CAPED CRUSADER !!!!

  6. Hey, do you all think that since this has be ‘outed’ that the LE will go ahead with any arresting they had planned?

  7. grandma – no, not yet is what I think. There’s no “hurry.” He’s not going anywhere – they know his every move.

    I suppose he’ll be arrested for KS first, since they do have her body and, possibly, evidence. Since GJ is still meeting, probably, they’re waiting to conclude that. Why give JB anything to search and destroy in the meantime?

  8. I agree, rescue. I hope it is air tight when they arrest him. Leave the two testicles hanging around.

  9. I mean, I’ve just seen the 2 stooges on msnbc, and it looks like DP’s got something wrong with his left eye.

  10. This video bucket? Maybe he has been crying. 😀

    h ttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25829038#25829038

  11. I watched the video of Brodsky and Peterson on the CBS Morning show, and Brodsky wasn’t comfortable, IMO, he was clearly nervous, and neither of them pointed out anything other than their current rehearsed line – Paula filed for bankruptcy 5x and Len 2x.

    Wow, that just proves Drew is telling the truth on this one, once again.

    Same link as above.

  12. I just love how David interrupted them when they were saying they did it for money. He basically put it in their face that news organizations don’t pay for stories, so how can they claim that?

    Hmmm… JB and DP grasping again! 😀

  13. I wonder…What will DP & JB say when DP is indicted….ummm The Grand Juror’s are
    criminals,liars, pms’ers,alcoholics,mentally unstable aliens from outer space ???These two are just unbelievable at times ! ARGH !!!!!!

  14. I swear, if I didn’t know any better, I would say there was NO WAY – DP was ever a cop. He really is not the brightest knife in the drawer. He makes Barney Fife look like a genius.

  15. He’s been suspended from the practice of law, he holed up in his house with a shotgun, where a SWAT team had to be called, and he has filed for bankruptcy.

    I wish he’d quit sliming and blaming other people. His schtick is getting real old.

  16. In 1997, he went through a bitter divorce from his first wife, who alleged that he had threatened her life. Brodsky denied the allegation. He was never charged. The following year, Brodsky filed for personal bankruptcy. He blamed his divorce for his financial difficulties.

    In 2002, a police SWAT team responded to his home on a report that Brodsky was home alone brandishing a shotgun and threatening to kill himself, according to a police report. No charges were filed, however, and both Brodsky and his current wife, Elizabeth, contend that police mishandled the incident.

    Brodsky ran afoul of state disciplinary authorities when he used a fake signature to withdraw about $23,000 from a client’s account. Officials ultimately agreed that Brodsky was trying to prevent the money from being forfeited to the state and never intended to steal it. But they still found an ethics violation and suspended him from practicing law for three months in 2004.

  17. bucketoftea // July 24, 2008 at 9:47 am

    I mean, I’ve just seen the 2 stooges on msnbc, and it looks like DP’s got something wrong with his left eye.
    ************************************

    I saw that too. Maybe pink eye?

    I’d like to say that all the recent shenanigans point to an imminent arrest, but I’ve thought that before…

  18. Drew on TV today
    « on: Today at 10:36:41 am » Quote Modify Remove

    ——————————————————————————–
    Wot is up with his left eye?

    1 A sty because he’s a pig

    2 He had an internet-related accident involving a cuddly toy

    3 An infection caused by not washing his hands after mudering someone

    4 Paula decked him when she found out about Ashley

    5 Ashley decked him when she found out about Paula and the fur coats

    6 Lenny punched his lights out when he found out about Paula and the fur coats

    7 A Find Stacy flyer fly off and smacked himin the eye

    8 Kim’s mom walloped him

    9 He has been a markéd by The Raven of Doom

  19. Susan Filan – Good Catch!

    h ttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25829038#25829825

    Weird, I can’t post any links today.

  20. Joel can you please help me understand what Lenny and Paula filing for bankruptcy has anything to do with anything? You have also done it. What is your point? 🙄

    SHEESH. The ultimate pot calling the kettle black.

  21. …….. so he huffed and he puffed ….. but, he couldn’t blow the house down!

    D & J … what a ‘hot air’ team!

  22. The only one that messed with the Peterson’s kids psych is DREW – no one else!

    DREW and DREW alone is responsible for whatever happens to those dear children.

  23. Drew, how does it feel to know that on national television you tugged your ear to tell Lenny how much you love him? 😆

  24. Rescue, I can’t wait to hear what they have to say about Ashley now! Wonder if Drew discussed going to visit Ashley with Lenny, and what he (Drew) might have said. Bet Lenny had a hard time keeping a straight face is Drew mentioned it! 😀

    Gotta dash, but MAN! This has been an interesting morning to say the least. Just waiting to hear what Drew and Joel have to say now since all of this came out about Ashley after their two TV appearances this morning.

    Happy Birthday Joel!! Not a good day so far for you huh? Sorry about that, but you wanted Drew for a client, and you got him!! Yeah, he’s going to make you rich and famous just like all of Drew’s former friends are supposedly using him for the same thing. How ironic….

    Lie down with dogs, you get fleas, as I always say. You both may need a bath in permethrin.

  25. Somehow, I can’t help thinking that having JB for a lawyer isn’t part of DP’s ultimate plan to place the blame on his inept (sp) lawyer if he does get convicted. Just letting JB hang himself? Just like DP picked TM to help with the blue barrel, because who would believe him?

  26. WOW…. I just saw this video of Lenny. Not posted here yet – But Interesting to say the least.

    It is new within the hour…

    h ttp://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=47047@wbbm.dayport.com

  27. LOL
    😀

    I keep thinking of Drew … making the moves on Paula … and Lenny!!!

    OMG … it hurts to laugh so much! 😀

    And Happy Birthday Joel!

  28. HOW did Lenny and Paula were ever in the same room with Drew without just bursting into gales of laughter, I do not know.

    😉

  29. You know, I just saw Drew on the mid news, and he is resorting to using that “my poor kids” thing again. Whenever he gets himself in a pickle, he resorts to his famous crutch – his kids. I’m sorry, but the unadoring public cares more about the welfare of his kids than he does. He’s a cruel, cold, heartless manipulator, and he shouldn’t even have the privilege of raising children!!!! The two teens will hear what he has to say about their mothers, if not already, some day, and the two little ones will surely come to learn of it too. How lucky that he has two adult sons that can enjoy the love of their mother!!!!

    Another thing that has me perplexed is the way some bloggers I’ve seen, now that Len & Paula are “outted,” criticize them and agree with Brodsky’s observations. Funny how they say Len & Paula are capitalizing on Drew’s misfortunes by being wired and recording him in order to help gather evidence in finding the truth regarding his two wives. They obviously saw him for what he was didn’t like it and took action. Why are they called liars and accused of doing it for money? Yet, these same people preach their moralities and disgust when they point out that Stacy let her manipulating husband slide by keeping her “secret” and NOT alterting LE.

    So, it seems Len and Paula are evil for cooperating with LE and did it for personal gains. Stacy kept her secret because she was selfish. Seems like the moral authorities change the rules as needed. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Funny.

    Now, that’s what I call hypocracy.

  30. Drews whine hasn’t changed: my kids, my kids. My kids can’t be kids.

    Within weeks of meeting “Ashley,” he wanted to “complete his kids.”

    Disgusting human being.

  31. Grandma … I disagree …

    Just The Way You Are by Billy Joel 😀

    Don’t go changing, to try and please me,
    You never let me down before,
    Don’t imagine, you’re too familiar,
    And I don’t see you anymore.

    I would not leave you, in times of trouble,
    We never could have come this far,
    I took the good times, I’ll take the bad times,
    I’ll take you just the way you are.

    Don’t go trying, some new fashion,
    Don’t change the colour of your hair,
    You always have my, unspoken passion,
    Although I might not seem to care.

    I don’t want clever, conversation,
    I never want to work that hard,
    I just want someone, that I can talk to,
    I want you just the way you are.

    I need to know that you will always be
    The same old someone that I knew,
    What will it take till you believe in me,
    The way that I believe in you?

    I said I love you, and that’s forever,
    And this I promise from the heart,
    I couldn’t love you, any better,
    I love you just the way you are.

    I don’t want clever, conversation,
    I never want to work that hard,
    I just want someone, that I can talk to,
    I want you just the way you are.

  32. I’m still preoccupied with his eye……
    (lol@u, G210)
    Perhaps online as has been his practice, and just as he ducks out of the way of the cam, he smashes his face on the keyboard.

  33. Now, you guys stop it. You may be violating his rights. His rights to be a babe magnet by talking like that.

  34. Bucket, it was probably an online accident of some kind. It’s better NOT to know the details.

    IMO
    😀

  35. I had a thought why this public unmasking has been “allowed”. We’re still waiting for the Gov to show us a little wrist action (er should I rephrase that?), or for any reason they’re not ready to do their thing, by making his disgrace so public, it spikes his guns. This has taken away opportunities to offend again (in whatever way) in the meantime. (do they let pervy jerks into Disneyworld?)

  36. Rescue 😀 Mickey Mouse!

    So … I am confused as to whether the wires (or whatever you want to call the recordings) were or were not in conjunction with ISP. . .

  37. Ah, all I’ve seen so far is Len & Paula say LE came to them in mid-November and they agreed to cooperate and wear wires.

    Glasgow/ISP aren’t confirming or denying it. So, I guess it’s open for interpretation, heh?

  38. Where does Crimefile get his inside information> He knew abot Drew doing the morning shows. He nalso knew aboyt that state police site that dissed the whole investigation.

    He says if Drew did it this will never be solved.

  39. OOOh one of the talking heads seemed to emphasise that even though an informant may think certain things are incriminating, it may be other bits of information that were useful. I’m also still puzzled why everyone keeps saying “wiretap” when what they’re talking about is a concealed recording device. Do they have wiretapped conversations as well? Are those the “dynamite”?

  40. He knew about Drew doing the morning shows? There was a post on “Ashley’s Blog” at 6:45am. Maybe that’s where he got it.

    I say if Drew did it, he’ll be nailed.

    Just opinions. Anyone can say anything they want. Doesn’t mean it’s right, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

  41. bucket – I believe what it’s called in this particular instance is “easedropping.” That’s what a legal analyst I saw on tv call it, because the party being recorded wasn’t aware of it.

  42. nurserene // July 24, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Where does Crimefile get his inside information> He knew abot Drew doing the morning shows. He nalso knew aboyt that state police site that dissed the whole investigation.

    He says if Drew did it this will never be solved.
    ___________
    Aren’t you him?

    See … everybody should pick a nick and stick with it.

  43. And if they were actually wearing wires and working as confidential informants — Illinois State Police officials have not confirmed the story — why did they stop and then break their own cover before an arrest or indictment?

    I was hoping for some answers today when Stark gave an exclusive interview to ABC’s “Good Morning America” (accompanied by Hosey, whose decision to leave the top several buttons of his shirt undone added another odd wrinkle to this already odd story), but was not only disappointed.

    Chris Cuomo: The idea is that you’re working with police and doing these wire taps. The question becomes the proof of that. The police say they will neither conform nor deny. Can you prove you actually did this?

    Paula Stark: I could, I could prove it. Like I said, it’s not with the Illinois State Police, but I have proof . And everyone will see eventually when this story comes out and he goes to trial.

    Not with the Illinois State Police? As all the stories have said? Cuomo chose not to follow up on that, but to pursue a different angle.

    Cuomo: You raise an interesting point there. Why come out about this before the trial? You know how rare that is I’m sure, if you’ve been working with the police in dealing with undercover operations. Why come out?

    http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2008/07/wire-authoritie.html

    ________________
    So … maybe Paula was working with FBI and Lenny with ISP?

    😀

    I need that secret decoder book and pictures drawn for me!

  44. bucketoftea // July 24, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    I’m also still puzzled why everyone keeps saying “wiretap” when what they’re talking about is a concealed recording device. Do they have wiretapped conversations as well? Are those the “dynamite”?
    *******************************

    I was googling that and ‘electronic eavesdropping’ yesterday. They tend to use the term interchangeabley, even if no electronic device was tapped. It cuold be because the wiretap act covers eavesdropping as well.

    Not sure…

  45. If Len & Paula did it with LE’s knowledge, then I believe a Judge would’ve had to approve it. That’s what the legal analyst said that I saw.

    Let me see if I can find that link, okay?

  46. Noway – I thought she said it’s “NOW” with the Illinois State Police, but can prove it.

    Hmmmm.

  47. I didn’t listen to her … I just pulled that from the printed version.

    Maybe that is what she said …

  48. Yo facs, thanks. I had a sneaking suspicion that they were being used interchangeably….grrr drives me nuts…brings out the pedant in me.

  49. Here’s the transcript from Paula’s interview this morning on GMA:

    Were Peterson’s Comments Caught on Tape?
    Ex-Cop, Suspected in Wife’s Disappearance, Said to Mock Investigators in Secret Tape
    By LEE FERRAN

    July 24, 2008 —

    Drew Peterson, whose wife, Stacy, has been missing since last year, told his friends that police investigators were “idiots” and called Stacy a “b****” in conversations that were secretly recorded, one friend confirmed to ABC News’ “Good Morning America” today.

    That friend, Paula Stark, 38, along with her husband, Len Wawczak, 42, say they wore wires for seven months to record intimate conversations with Peterson in cooperation with an Illinois State Police investigation. Peterson is a former police sergeant in suburban Bolingbrook, Ill.

    While police have not confirmed the existence of the tapes,, first reported by the Chicago Sun-Times newspaper, Stark assured “Good Morning America” today that they do, in fact, exist

    “I have proof. Like I said, it’s not with the Illinois State Police, but I have proof. There’s no doubt in my mind about either one of them,” she said, referring to Peterson’s involvement in the mysterious fate of Stacy and his ex-wife Kathleen Savio, who was murdered.

    Savio’s 2004 death was ruled an accidental drowning at the time, but after the disappearance of Stacy Peterson, police exhumed her body and reclassified her death as a murder.

    “I should have had that b**** cremated,” Peterson reportedly said on the tapes, according to the newspaper. “It would have cost me less and I wouldn’t be going through this trouble.”

    The tapes allegedly also recorded Peterson insulting the investigating officers, saying, “She was in a dry bathtub. What a bunch of f****** idiots.”

    According to Wawczak, Peterson predicted that he would have already been tried and acquitted in Stacy’s disappearance last year by the time police find her remains.

    Peterson, who is a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance, maintained his innocence in both cases.

    “If I said anything close to that, it was taken out of context,” Peterson told the Associated Press.

    His lawyer, Joel Brodsky, does not believe the tapes exist at all.

    “We know Illinois State Police would never allow an undercover informant to talk to the media about the contents of an undercover investigation,” he told reporters yesterday.

    Even if the tapes do exist, Brodsky told the AP, “there’s certainly nothing incriminating on there.”

    Wawczak and Stark have not claimed that they recorded a direct confession from Peterson.

  50. i ask that so many times and i never get any answer why is it that the family Cales or Savios do anything to help them pure kids like try to take the kids away from Drew.. go to court to get to see them.. find a way to get the kids away from Drew.. i ask why why why the cales and the savios do nothing to help and look out for them kids for the saftety

  51. I would say because their father is living and until or when he is arrested they will remain with him.

  52. Grandma … thanks for pointing out the obvious answer to us. 😉 Don’t know why nobody else thought of that …

  53. but drew is not a good dad and look what all them pure kids have to put up with… if it would be my grand kids i sure would do something anything i could do..
    i am a grandma of 5 and one more is on the way and oma is german for grandma and i am german

  54. LOL
    Nobody has a license to be a parent. There are a lot of dads who are not good but are dads all the same.

    And even good dads are not good all the time.

  55. I just watched that segment from the GMA footage a couple of times and Paula really does say, “I could. I could prove it. Like I said, it’s not with the Illinois State Police, but – ah – I have proof.”

    So, who is it with? FBI?

  56. I’m not defending Drew … but it has not been proven that he has done anything so until that happens, his kids remain … his kids.

    I’m a mother of 2 if that makes any difference at all to the conversation.

  57. Yeah, zooming in and just taking out four children isn’t exactly something you do on a lazy afternoon. If kids got whisked away from parents simply because someone didn’t like them, what does that say?

    Not that I think he deserves those children, and thinking that what goes on inside that house is chaotic, to say the least, at least the kids are together and they have each other, for now.

  58. When and if the kids are removed from Drew’s custody, it is going to affect them. It has to be done right. They need family members who love them in their lives … and from both sides of the family IMO.

  59. Sorry – Noway! That’s the same video you linked to upstream. Interesting stuff.

    Len took the polygraph, but Paula did not.

  60. well i just wish that the Cales and the Savios go to court and try to get some visiting time with the kids from the court away from drew .. i know that it needs to be done the right way and safe for the kids ..but it does look like the Cales and the Savios do nothing for the kids.. even Lisa Stebic
    parents do something for the grandkids…

  61. I really, really doubt that Len & Paula are the only ones that blabber mouth let loose on. In fact, he’s “prolly” wondering himself who’s coming out next. There’s going to be more. He’s just too free with his cockiness and arrogance, and he’s going to be responsible for his own downfall. I can almost guarantee it just by learning so much about him over these past months.

    Loose lips sink ships.

  62. oma – as sad as all this is, if Drew Peterson doesn’t “allow” access to his children, those relatives can’t do anything about it. It takes lawyers, legal fees, and court appearances.

    Stacy’s sister is, what, 22 years old? She’d have to have the finances to even think of doing anything. Even the responsibility of taking in those children eventually would be a financial burden. Plus, I’m sure no one would want to see the four of them split up, as if they were a pie.

    Hopefully, someone has the best interest of this kids at heart .

  63. Facs, in that video, it seems that Drew was MOST worried about Steve C. and Stephen testifying before the GJ.

    Maybe one or both are “Sandra” … LOL 😀

  64. omaof6 // July 24, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    well i just wish that the Cales and the Savios go to court and try to get some visiting time with the kids from the court away from drew .. i know that it needs to be done the right way and safe for the kids ..but it does look like the Cales and the Savios do nothing for the kids.. even Lisa Stebic
    parents do something for the grandkids…
    ______________

    EVEN Lisa Stebic’s parents?

    WHO are you?

  65. Now maybe that wasn’t fair and oma0f6 did not mean to insult the Cales, the Savios and Lisa Stebic’s parents in one post but that’s the way I interpreted it.

    I know I won’t be able to play nice so I’m sending myself to the corner.

    Hey! Look … Bash is in the corner still! 😀

  66. When it comes to the kids, people tend to get very emotional. It’s perfectly understandable.

    I’m glad that for the sake of our discussions, the wise amongst us take self-mandated timeouts. They aren’t just for kids! 😉

  67. facsmiley // July 24, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    I just watched that segment from the GMA footage a couple of times and Paula really does say, “I could. I could prove it. Like I said, it’s not with the Illinois State Police, but – ah – I have proof.”

    So, who is it with? FBI?
    _____________
    When I first read that she had said “not” I thought FBI too.

    But so many other places and in the video … it seems they refer to ISP … so we wait.

  68. It’s hard to keep this all straight anymore. I do know that Drew’s friends are dropping like flies. It didn’t take long for many of them to lose faith in him from the get-go. Even his ex-police partner dropped him like a hot potato! Friends or not, they were perfectly willing to help expose him for what he is. Friends or not, the idea of sharing their future moments in time with murder suspect, I guess, was just not worth it.

  69. Friends or not, the idea of sharing their future moments in time with murder suspect, I guess, was just not worth it.
    ________________
    Maybe they knew what happened to Stacy . . . and figured it could happen to them too.

  70. You know, with all due respect to anyone who may disagree with me, yeah, everyone deserves their day in court, but there are just some people on this earth that don’t function within the boundaries of what most of us consider civilized behavior. Sorry, folks, but, IMHO, Peterson is one of those people. Whatever drives that man, whatever controls his brain, his actions, is not normal. He acts as though he cannot sort and control his thought processes in order to travel peacefully through society.

    I am just sayin’…

  71. first of all!!!!!!!!!!
    I did not mean to insult anyone not anyone not any Family the only reason i wrote about Lisa Stebic is because her Family got a lawyer and went to court to try to see the Grandkids and let me write this again i did not in anyway mean to insult any Family not the Family from Lisa or the Family from Kathleen or the Family from Stacy
    but i still do not understand how the Famliy from Stacy and from Kathleen do nothing to try to see them kids of course the best and save way for the kids..
    that is all i will write i am so sorry that i even wrote one wort on here seems i upset some of you..well sure did not want to do that anymore so i just go in the corner and wont come out anymore and just lurk here if this is even ok to do

    ______________

    WHO are you?……..

    i am a german grandma that is who i am
    thank you very much

  72. Hi shadowette. Yeah, some are very mean spirited and can’t let things go. Some just like to fight.

    Oh, well.

  73. Why would you send your resume to Gatehouse when they’re involved in a conspiracy against you?

    Ha, ha, gottcha. 🙂

  74. I wonder…are they even really ducks…are they possibly fake ducks ? drunk ducks? pms’ing ducks, mentally unstable ducks…shall I go on ?

  75. My guess is Drew is wondering WHO Sandra is going to turn out to be. 😉

    And whether any of his other friends might decide to do the right thing …

  76. What friends, noway??? 🙂

    Naw, Wonder, don’t go on. The blog police don’t like it.

    It was a joke!

  77. Boy, I hope Drewpy didn’t say anything unkind about Brodsky when he was chatting with “Ashley.” Wouldn’t want him to start wearing a wire. He’s all Drewpy has left.

    😥

  78. noway406 // July 24, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Friends, street rats … maybe a family member or two? LOL
    ************

    any duck will do…LMAO

  79. Has anyone figured out yet what P is talking about when she said, “not the Illinois State Police”?

    WAS it FBI?

  80. I wonder….Has anyone considered it that it might be BBPD ? Maybe it started with the gun charge investigation ? Just a thought….BBL …Gotta run an errand..Happy Blogging…..

  81. facs, I’m not sure that she did.

    I keep listening to it … she talks so much about the ISP in other situations, as done Lenny. I think she must have said “now” and not “not.”

    But … tomorrow is another day … heck … wait 5 minutes. Something will change.

  82. noway406 // July 24, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    But … tomorrow is another day … heck … wait 5 minutes. Something will change.
    *****************************

    True dat.

  83. omaof6, please do continue and post. Sometimes the way folks read a post they may emphasize words in ways that verbally are not stated that way. I knew what you meant. 🙂

  84. When this all started this was just a little 1 ring

    circus, hell now it is 20 rings and a city of

    clowns, it’s never going to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  85. I just read a story where Paula says every time DP would come to their home, he’d take the battery out of his cell phone. When they asked him why, he said he couldn’t be traced that way.

    She claims the ISP has limited them to what they can say publicly. So, maybe she did say “now” rather than “not” about ISP having the proof/tapes.

    She said she became so close to Lacy and Anthony, that Lacy asked if she could be her to be her mom.

    How sad.

  86. I really would like to know if all of this stuff can hold up in court. Here’s a couple of thoughts I’ve had lately that I don’t believe we discussed?

    What if while Drew was on the TODAY show that Paula was allowing the ISP in to plant all kinds of bugs in the house! LOL. Drew is gonna be doomed! Those bags under his eyes are gonna explode!

    Another thought I had…remember the diamond ring that Drew bought Stacy to “rekindle” their romance? Well… my guess is wherever he put her…he didn’t leave that ring with her. Just a hunch. I can’t imagine him walking away and leaving “money” behind….not with his personality. So that says….shouldn’t that ring be a piece of evidence? Shouldn’t someone post a pic of it in case it fell into someone else’s hands? (no pun intended)

    By the way…chat starts now. Going to have it while watching Greta. Come if you wish. Let me know your thoughts on the above two things that I’ve been wondering about.

    By the way, you all know where I will be shortly. Take care.

  87. Lavanda, unless you typed that post yourself, there is no way you would know what she meant.

    LOL 😀

    But peace at any price. 😉

  88. Question : Where did Drew buy the diamond ring he gave to Stacy for their anniversary and does he have a receipt? (Bear with me. I have my reasons for asking.)

    Answer: As to the diamond I don’t know and I dont know if there is a reciept. If you tell me why it is relevant I will find out. (send me a private message if you don’t want to post the reason).

    (I did not PM him, fyi).

    ____________

    Question: Where is the anniversary ring that Joel bought for Stacy? Have your PIs come up with anything on it being pawned, etc or was it maybe returned to the store after she went missing?

    Joel: No ring has come up.

    (Question asked by Lizanne).

  89. Did anyone ever ask JB if Stacy was on any other medication (birth control) besides her depression meds, and did she take that with her, along with her bikini?

  90. I wonder….What could Lenny and Paula have heard from DP that makes them so sure he
    is involved in these crimes…Now that’s something to WONDER about……I cant even begin to imagine…..

  91. Wonder – maybe it’s not so much what he said about specifics, but maybe it’s the information and content of it. Think LE is trying to drive DP batty, and cut-off his chick supply?

  92. Hi folks,
    Danya here. Len asked me to say hey to everyone here for him. He said he enjoys reading the discussion you all have here.
    Anyway, just thought you’d wanna hear that. We’ll have a story up some time tonight, might be a bit late though.

  93. IWonder – watch some of the videos at CBS2. From what Len says it looks as if he came to that conclusion much the way Ric Mims did. He became suspicious after seeing how Drew acted in the first few weeks after Stacy disappeared. He said that Drew did not act like a man who was grieving for a missing wife. He was obsessed with the investigation and who was testifying at the GJ, obsessed with hiding his whereabouts and with sneaking away from home so he wouldn’t be apprehended. “He acted guilty.”

  94. Rescue, somethings gotta get the guys attention…. as usual SEX works with MEN LMAO…Thanks for the info FACS…I saw the one rescue posted, is that the one your talking about also ?

  95. That video of Lenny, telling about how he acted – I found extremely interesting. Having been friends for a very long time – they obviously knew him very well.

    So Ric saw it.
    Paula and Lenny saw it.

    I wonder if Carcerano sees it yet?

    Oopsie… Drew… wonder if he was on to you and wired too?

  96. I wonder…Facs do you have any links to those videos…I am really bad about finding that kinda stuff…Thanks

  97. 1wonderwoman // July 24, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    I wonder….What could Lenny and Paula have heard from DP that makes them so sure he
    is involved in these crimes…Now that’s something to WONDER about……I cant even begin to imagine…..
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Wonderwoman, I know one thing…..I hope ALL of us who want to will get an opportunity to hear those tapes some day. I also hope that Lenny will share the rest of his and Drew’s online lover’s rendevous on “Ashley’s” blog.

    If you ever run into Lenny or Paula, or both of them, please give them a BIG hug for me. I would send them some roses and chocolates if I knew their address. 😀

  98. I can see why, from what Lenny said on the video, that Drew was worried about Carcerano at the GJ. I always thought he knows more about Kathleen than he is saying.

    One of the things early on was the Locksmith. It was discussed repeatedly on Gretawire – If there was a problem at Kathleen’s house, NO COP would call a locksmith. They would do what they needed to do to get in the house. If they really believed that she was in trouble they would not call a locksmith, and wait…

    I recall Randy Mucha confirming that no cop would do that.

  99. Nevermind….I just figured it out..LMAO..sorry…I am a bit
    flustered…..and now Ill after seeing DP
    comment on how he is the Victim in this!
    OMG ..there goes my BP…..sigh

  100. gatehousechicago // July 24, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Hi folks,
    Danya here. Len asked me to say hey to everyone here for him. He said he enjoys reading the discussion you all have here.
    Anyway, just thought you’d wanna hear that. We’ll have a story up some time tonight, might be a bit late though.
    _____________
    Guess he forgives those of us who may have called him and Paula … losers?

    😳

  101. Hello all! Been reading trying to catch up since this morning.

    This Lenny, Paula, Ashley triad is just unbelievable! I am so glad Drew has raised suspicions in those closest to him. That speaks absolute volumes!!

    I’m just wondering if Joel is going to be surprised if Drew talks about him unfavorably on those tapes. Wouldn’t surprise me. He’s been reading the blogs just like Joel and sees how everybody is giving Joel grief. Wonder if he’s thought about bailing lately….hmmmm.

  102. Will check in tomorrow. Gosh it’s great to see things hopefully moving toward a possible arrest soon….. Nite all.

  103. CFS… nice to see you. In case you missed it, I have missed your posts. They are always direct and to the point. Hope you hang around.

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