Your Thread – September 4

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121 thoughts on “Your Thread – September 4

  1. Hi everyone

    It’s horrible to think, but did Casey find a way to “park” her daughter in the trunk, sedated?

    I’m thinking about the chloroform.. If it’s only a tiny trace in the air samples it would be more difficult to say how it appeared, but in the absence of any detectable bleach/gasoline unlikely to have formed that way. I think it’s pretty unlikely that an accidental combination would result in all the matter converted to chloroform.

  2. Good Morning. 🙂

    Bucket – I was thinking the same thing last night. Maybe Casey had “important things to do” and didn’t want to leave Caylee in the backseat while she was busy. Someone could have seen her in the backseat sleeping and that’s why she chose the trunk. Just a thought.

    Sad stuff.

  3. OMG. It came to me last night, after reading the bounty hunter, Leonard’s quote about shocking news that would shock the world, Lee Anthony is Caylee’s father! Hello, Cay for Casey, and Lee for Lee. Leonard said it was something about the FBI’s DNA evidence discovery, that Casey, Cindy, and Lee found out Wednesday. I could be way off, but I read the 400 pages, and nothing about this case will surprise me.

    I still think that Drew buried Stacy in one of the local industrial parks off Weber Rd. There must have been foundations for some new wharehouse being poured that week.

  4. I agree with Bucket. I think she might have been doing that for a while that might have been her baby sitter until it went wrong. That might be while she didn’t report her death because of the Chloroform, you can’t say that is an accident.

  5. zbunny // September 4, 2008 at 9:28 am

    OMG. It came to me last night, after reading the bounty hunter, Leonard’s quote about shocking news that would shock the world, Lee Anthony is Caylee’s father! Hello, Cay for Casey, and Lee for Lee. Leonard said it was something about the FBI’s DNA evidence discovery, that Casey, Cindy, and Lee found out Wednesday. I could be way off, but I read the 400 pages, and nothing about this case will surprise me.

    _________________
    Then you must have seen that Cindy Anthony’s mother is Shirley (ShirLEE)?

    And truly … naming your child after your brother does not mean that incest took place.

    The facts of this case are crazy enough without adding to it with statements based on something as trivial as a name. IMO

    🙄

  6. I know that it’s a stretch. It’s just bugging me, that Padilla has some insider info about the DNA, that he thinks would shock the world.
    There aren’t too many things left on this planet that most people would find shocking.

  7. Well naming your child after your brother is OK if it was a boy as I did, because my brother had no sons, but I must admit that what zbunny said crossed my mind as well….

  8. Hello again

    OT

    The poor Palins probably don’t know what “Bristol” refers to in cockney rhyming slang.

    Bristol City = t….

    don’t know how to make the blushing smiley.

  9. Perhaps they should have chosen “Wolverhampton”…it’s not disagreeable to the ear and I can’t think of any unfortunate associations. 🙂

  10. I’m not hopping on the incest bandwagon yet, but it’s true that Casey has been very cagey about the identity of the baby’s father. Of course, she’s been cagey about everything else as well.

    They’re appearing at the Double Door this weekend, by the way – Incest Bandwagon.

  11. This is the interview,
    h ttp://www.wftv.com/video/17379793/index.html
    (Get rid of the space between the h and the t)
    He’s dangling a mighty sad carrot in our faces.

    Leonard could be refering to anything, but he seems to know something that’s bugging him, and he can’t come right out and tell, either.

  12. zbunny, rf they cannot distinguish between Casey’s DNA and Caylee’s DNA, does it not seem that is because they both have the same DNA (both have the same biologoical parents)?

    If that is the case, it doesn’t lead me to Lee no matter what the baby’s name is.

  13. It does make sense that a victim of incest would be well schooled in deception. It could explain the habitual lying and acting out and the strange relationship with her family. But that’s some pretty wild speculation.

    It’s hard to say though what Padilla meant by ‘shocking’.

  14. Hi folks,
    As those of you who live in the area have probably noticed…the weather is pretty terrible today. Because of this, and since we haven’t heard about any big testimony at today’s grand jury, we won’t be staking out the building. But, if we hear anything through the grapevine, we’ll let you know.

  15. Much appreciated, Gatehouse! In the case of DNA, I would hate to speculate possible incest, but, this family seems rather disfuctional. I guess anything could be possible. Prayers to bring Caylee home very soon.

  16. Maybe her mother and father didn’t know about the father of Cayley being Lee and that was a posssibility why Caysey blamed it on a man that was dead so he couldn’t answer for himself.

  17. But she also said the father was in the military, a security guard at Universal, someone she’d known since she was 5 and whose parents were friends with her parents … 🙄

    Would it not have been better to tell one story and stick with it?

  18. Hiya

    If they can’t distinguish between the DNA of Caylee and Casey, that leads me to think that what they have is a degraded/infintesimal sample from which they were only reliably to get mDNA or mitochondrial DNA. Your mDNA will be identical to your mother’s, her mother’s etc.(excepting occasional mutations over many generations) Everyone gets their mitochondria from their mother. (non-nucleic DNA, not part of your genes as they are contained w/in the nucleus, half from dad, half from mom.)

    So, in theory if they obtained mDNA from, say a single hair follicle, and it doesn’t also show the postmortem changes, it could be any of them that share the same mDNA

  19. If it was isolated from a hair showing those postmortem changes, it would likely be from the dead member of the family.

  20. bucketoftea // September 4, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Perhaps they should have chosen “Wolverhampton”…it’s not disagreeable to the ear and I can’t think of any unfortunate associations.
    ********************************
    I just remembered that Ms. Palin is a big fan of wolf hunting by air (where you run the animal down until it’s exhausted and then shoot it), so not really a bad choice for a name!

  21. I hadn’t heard about the other father of Caylee’s being in the military, Noway, I had only heard of her stating that Caylee’s father was a school friend called Jesus that was killed last year in an accident…

  22. I saw Mr. Miller on tv yesterday, and he is none too pleased with Cindy Anthony. I believe his heart was in the right place in the beginning, wanting to search for a “live and breathing” Caylee, but, now, he’s moved to the other side, so to speak, and believes Caylee is not alive. He seems mad that Cindy Anthony is using his resources to further her claims that Caylee is alive, when, in fact, she’s in denial and covering for her daughter, and his time and effort could be better spent helping another family find their missing loved one.

    As much as I want to have compassion for the grandparents of Caylee, Mrs. Anthony is grating on my nerves big time because, to me, she’s a phony who is responsible for creating the monster that is now known as Casey! Maybe, if she would’ve helped her daughter a while ago and sought psychiatric help for her with some tough love, her granddaughter, Caylee, might still be with her!

    JMHO.

  23. noway406 // September 4, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Why hasn’t he gone home already?

    Sorry … I’m not his biggest fan.
    ***************************
    He went home last week. The interviews were done in Sacramento CA.
    I’m not his biggest fan, either. He now has the demeanor of a beaten man. This whole thing has taken him down a few notches.

  24. I agree rescue 100%. I felt so sorry for Tim because Cindy got mad at him as she does to anyone that is looking for a dead body instead of a live person. I think that as long as Cindy can keep Caylee alive she is avoiding dealing with the heartache of a dead grandchild and a daughter that could be a murderer. Totally sad

  25. qhorses // September 4, 2008 at 11:23 am

    I hadn’t heard about the other father of Caylee’s being in the military, Noway, I had only heard of her stating that Caylee’s father was a school friend called Jesus that was killed last year in an accident…
    _______________________
    In the 400 pages of documents, various people gave statements, and those were some of the stories Casey had told them about Caylee’s dad.

    Hmm … and one of the friends said that Caylee’s dad died just before her first birthday. Some said “on the way to the party” or some such thing.

    He died in May 2007, but the MySpace page I went to had all the dates as 2008, which was really confusing. I don’t know if that was a glitch with my computer or the joy of MySpace. 😉

    http://www.zimbio.com/Casey+Anthony/articles/23/Jesus+Ortiz+Most+Likely+Not+Caylee+Marie+Anthony

  26. When I go to the MySpace link provided in the article above, the dates are 2007, and Casey’s one comment is on May 12 from [Stephanie] …

  27. I keep wishing I could rewind Cyndi Anthony back to the night she made those 911 calls. That was her moment of clarity (especially the second call).

    Since then she’s withdrawn into a big fluffy wad of denial that just gets thicker and thicker.

  28. CINDY ANTHONY MAKES STRONG STATEMENT VIA EMAIL

    “Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller came to me under false pretenses. Both claiming their sole purpose to find Caylee alive. Tim Miller misrepresented his intentions, and is falsely accusing me of not cooperating with him, when it is evident his motives were to obtain publicity for his organization at the expense of exploiting my granddaughters disappearance. Tim Miller tried to discredit Kid Finders Network by falsely stating that they tried to pull out of the search for Caylee. Mr. Miller also claims that he spent twelve hours in my home with my family including Casey, when in fact he spent only a few hours total with me and minutes with Casey. This is an example of Tim Miller following in Leonard Padillas footsteps. Although I feel his organization has a purpose, his misrepresentation has tainted the efforts of so many people with good intentions. I would have expected Tim Miller to speak with me one on one, rather than me hearing him on Nancy Grace.”

    http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html

    _________________

    Life in the big fluffy wad of denial?

  29. I watched that Nancy Grace show and Tim Miller tried to avoid the questions that Nancy was asking I think to avoid getting caught up in this media frenzy. He just wanted to concentrate on his search and Cindy took it upon herself to call Nancy Grace Show and do the talking for him. So I don’t know what she’s taling about she did all the talking for him.

  30. gatehousechicago // September 4, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Hi folks,
    As those of you who live in the area have probably noticed…the weather is pretty terrible today. Because of this, and since we haven’t heard about any big testimony at today’s grand jury, we won’t be staking out the building. But, if we hear anything through the grapevine, we’ll let you know.

    ___________________

    Aw, Gatehouse, no grand jury information? You are bringing me down!

    Quick, someone get me a WAHmburger and an order of french cries!

  31. Gawd, do you think it’s even possible that Casey used chloroform on little Caylee as a way of keeping her down while she partied, only to have it wind up killing her? I don’t put anything past her, since I really think she’s beyond mentally ill. She’s a dangerous kind of psycho that’s gotten away with too much too long. It seems as though she ran out of friends, relatives, money, etc., that she needed to carry on her party life, and this may have been her sick way of dealing with it.

  32. How long does on remain knocked out after behing chloroformed?

    I always got the impression it was used to get a person from point A to point B … but not for keeping them unconscious for hours … and it seems that Casey’s partying was not an hour or two …

  33. Link went to spam.

    answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080226141907AArMg69

    Put http://

    Not a great source … but it seems that it would depend on the concentration.

    I wonder if there is any way they can tell from Caylee’s hair whether she had been exposted to chloroform on a regular basis.

  34. Chloroform was used years ago for surgery, but I think the amount was continous but controlled amounts to keep the patient under. I don’t know how long a period though. It was used as an enesthetic in the early 20th century and replaced ether but because of its toxicity they went back to using ether.

  35. “Significant levels” of chloroform were found in the car used by missing tot Caylee Anthony’s mom Casey, MyFOXOrlando.com reported Wednesday, citing sources close to the investigation.

    The significance of the find to the Caylee case is not clear, but sources said one of the computers taken from the Anthony home showed someone was searching for information on chloroform and how to use it, the TV station reported.

    Chloroform, a solvent, once was used as an anesthetic, because inhaling the vapors depresses the central nervous system, though inhaling too much can be fatal.

    Caylee was 2 when she disappeared in mid-June. Casey Anthony, 22, been charged with child neglect any lying to the authorities investigating her daughter’s disappearance.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,416281,00.html

  36. Oh, the wheels of justice, they are a`turnin’. HER rights have been grossly violated? Just sickening!

    Casey Anthony is being bailed out of jail. The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony’s Constitutional rights have been grossly violated. Mr. Baez will have no comment abou thte bond and will respect the privacy of the anonymous party,” a Press Corp. Media release said.

  37. Cindy and George Anthony retain high profile lawyer
    2 p.m. Mark NeJame has confirmed this afternoon that he will be representing Cindy and George Anthony, but he will not represent their daughter, Casey.

  38. ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Casey Anthony will get out of jail Friday morning after bond was posted Thursday, according to the Orange County Corrections Department. Two bond agencies, Macdonald Bail Bonds and Miller Bail Bonds, both out of Kissimmee, worked together to post the $500,000 bond.

  39. Talkin about Lee might be Caylee’s father does not sound that far fetched to me. And worse yet, what about George???? (caaaaaack…).

    This girl is either way deep involved in the porn industry or there’s a big time drug situation going on. Is this where casey “worked”?

    When I hear chloroform is the MO for many young mothers to sedate their young ones on demand…..holy hell, I’d say this is a case of “instant babysitter”. Poor baby…………

  40. Guess who’s doing PR for Casey now? Drew and Brodsky’s favorite PR man….Glenn Selig.

    (Thanks to Research Fanatic and HeDidIt)

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=794&z=0

    Casey Anthony’s Attorney Jose Baez Releases Statement on Testing of Trunk
    The following is a statement from Jose Baez, criminal defense attorney for Casey Anthony, on a report that testing confirms that 3-year-old Caylee was in the trunk of Casey’s car and is dead.
    ThePublicityAgency.com – Monday, September 01, 2008

    (PRNewsChannel) / Orlando, Fla. – The following is a statement from Jose Baez, criminal defense attorney for Casey Anthony, on a report that testing confirms that 3-year-old Caylee was in the trunk of Casey’s car and is dead.

    STATEMENT FROM JOSE BAEZ:

    “You have to wonder about the reliability and accuracy of any test when law enforcement feels the need to leak it to the media.

    “I won’t comment on the specifics of any report I have not had the opportunity to review or have challenged by independent experts.”

    Additional Information:
    Late Sunday, Orange County investigators acknowledged for the first time that FBI lab tests indicate that Caylee Anthony’s body was in her mother’s trunk and that Caylee is dead.

    WESH 2’s Bob Kealing reported that a lead investigator in the case told him that lab results indicated Caylee’s body was in the trunk. Kealing reported that it was strands of hair found in the trunk that led investigators to that conclusion.

    “The information we’ve gotten back from the lab that she was in the trunk of that car and that she is dead is certainly something we take seriously,” Orange County Sheriff’s Office Sgt. John Allen told WESH.

    About The Publicity Agency: The Publicity Agency (http://www.thepublicityagency.com) represents Jose Baez and Casey Anthony in dealing with the news and other media.

    Editor’s Note: To receive news/press releases related to this subject, please send an email to glenn@thepublicityagency.com. In the subject line, please write “Casey Anthony case”

    News Media Contacts:
    Glenn Selig, The Publicity Agency, (813) 948-7767, Mobile (813) 300-5454, or glenn@thepublicityagency.com (BlackBerry)
    Justin Herndon, The Publicity Agency, (813) 528-6815 or justin@thepublicityagency.com (BlackBerry)

    Source Web Site: ThePublicityAgency.com

  41. OK, no further details on this Casey Anthony news because I’m posting it as I read it and have nothing beyond the words below:

    “Movie deal rumor and paid appearance on 20/20 & GMA, money went for “pics” not interview (ahem) because they don’t pay for interviews.”

  42. Oh dear. I can’t see any good coming of Casey returning home. She is so full of anger, I think, and very angry with her mom. I don’t think she’ll be giving it up “for” her mother. 😦

  43. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/1145558,6_1_NA05_MCGURY_S1.article

    Bolingbrook police chief new director of Naper Park District Kevin McCarthy is new chief

    September 5, 2008

    By M.B. Sutherland Special to The Sun
    Bolingbrook Police Chief Ray McGury is confident he’s the man for the job: executive director of Naperville’s Park District board.

    “I’m confident we can do some good things,” McGury said. “My job is to identify some of the themes on this board and start moving them forward. I’m itching to do it.”

    McGuryt was named last week to the leadership of a district that has had difficulty choosing a leader. Daniel Betts recently took a leave of absence, then ultimately left altogether after less than six months on the job. He was hired in March from the park district in Denver.

    Bolingbrook’s chief for three years, McGury says he originally applied for the position in May 2007.

    “I feel like a kid – humbled, grateful and ready to get to work,” McGury said. “I applied for the position last year, went through the process and was not selected. I respected the decision then. I wasn’t happy about it, but I understood.”

    Then, when the position once again became vacant, McGury, 48, got a phone call inviting him to come in and talk about the position again.

    “They had some tough questions,” McGury said, “but they voted to take me on.”

    The board voted 5-2 to approve his appointment. Vice President Marie Todd and Mary Wright were the dissenters.

    McGury’s contract is for one year and calls for a $135,000 salary, health insurance and a $6,000 contribution to a retirement fund.

    Will miss Bolingbrook

    As for the reason he left Bolingbrook, McGury describes his decision as bittersweet.
    “It’s sunk in now,” he said. “It’s like closing a chapter of your life. I’ve been in law enforcement for over 27 years, and now I’m done. I’m taking what I’ve learned … using the management, leadership, integrity and ethics.”

    Although McGury says he is happy to come back to Naperville, he says he will miss Bolingbrook.

    “It’s an absolutely wonderful community,” McGury said. “Twenty or 30 years ago, people made fun of Bolingbrook, but what Mayor Claar and the village trustees have done has been phenomenal. Something’s happening here, and it’s good stuff.”

    Nan Higens, assistant to Claar, was sad to see McGury go.

    “He’s a great guy. We’ve gotten to be good friends and a lot of people are going to miss him.”

    Claar named Kevin McCarthy, Bolingbrook’s deputy chief of police, as the new chief to replace McGury effective Sept. 15.

    McGury sees this easy transition as his biggest accomplishment in the last three years since, because of staff mentoring, the mayor had a qualified person to promote.

    “Nothing will change for this department,” McGury said. Except that they “won’t have a big, tall, white, bald-headed guy anymore.”

    As word of the appointment spread, McGury said some friends called him to tell him not to look at Web blogs because some people had negative comments, including accusations that McGury was running from the Drew Peterson case.

    “That’s somewhat insulting, I think,” McGury said. “I applied for the (Park District) position when it came available in May of 2007. The Peterson case didn’t occur until October of 2007.

    “We’ve done our best in a difficult and tough situation. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. I’m confident that case will come to a resolution, and I’ll leave it at that.”

    Other criticisms include his lack of parks experience.

    “People understand what leadership and management are about,” he said. “If you’re looking for someone who can tell you this type of tree or this type of playground equipment, I’m not your guy. If you want someone who knows how to lead and manage people, then you should hire me.”

    Looking to the future, McGury envisions a year from now when his contract will have just been renewed and people who were not his fans will understand where he was coming from.

    McGury plans to “start attending homeowners meetings, join Rotary, and get back into the community.”

  44. hedidit // September 5, 2008 at 9:15 am

    “It’s an absolutely wonderful community,” McGury said. “Twenty or 30 years ago, people made fun of Bolingbrook, but what Mayor Claar and the village trustees have done has been phenomenal. Something’s happening here, and it’s good stuff.”

    ***

    Hmm. Wonder what flavor that Kool-Aid was that he drank just before making that statement.

  45. Drew and Casey seem to be very much alike. Maybe they should get together for a date and see how long it takes till one of them off’s the other. I have never heard of so many sociopath people until these cases came out.

  46. noway406 // September 5, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Glenn Selig and Casey … I guess we should be looking for that Mrs. Mom video coming our way soon …

    *****

    I’ll tell you one thing. They do have home video out there from the past that shows Casey with Caylee. The photos and new video out there show her as being cuddly with Caylee. The new video does seem more sister-like than mom-like with grandma Cindy playing the part of the mom.

    Out of curiousity – don’t narcissists sometimes show off their children more as a sign of how great they are themselves to have created such a wonderful, smart, beautiful little being?

    In Drew’s case it seems they had to make a new video only as you really don’t see any old photos or videos of him being cuddly with his kids. There are lots of old photos and videos of Stacy being cuddly with everyone but haven’t seen any of Drew.

  47. and do you also notice that in all the pictures and videos of Casey she is hamming it up all smiles as if getting her picture taken is the most important thing. Just holding the child or what ever ealse she is doing is secondary….

  48. qhorse, I had thought the same thing about Casey and Drew. They deserve each other.

    thinkaboutit2, I think showing off Caylee was just another way for Casey to get the attention she craves. My ex-daughter-in-law always wanted to show off my granddaughter, but then would disappear for weeks without a call to see how she was. She is more interested in her “world” than in my granddaughter’s. Of course there are those montherly moments when presents are involved like mother’s day.

    I can see her giving chloriform to Caylee to make her sleep if she wanted to party. In the 400 pages of evidence, it was stated that Caylee would sleep through adult parties going on in the same room.

  49. pearlsgirl // September 5, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    I think showing off Caylee was just another way for Casey to get the attention she craves.
    ________________________
    My feeling is that Casey loved being a mother when it suited her.

    Does a “good mother” take a 2 year-old to an adult party, even to let her sleep on the couch? Who would think this was an appropriate setting for a child that age? It does explain why she looked at clubs for Zenaida and/or Caylee though. 🙄

  50. Yup – Whenever I needed a new babysitter the first place I’d check for one is at the clubs. That’s also the place that I’d go to find my boyfriends too. I mean if you can party hardy that is enough qualification for me!!! Who needs freaking resumes or references? And if you already have a job (which you must not if you can party in the middle of the week) then how the heck are you gonna watch my baby for me??

  51. As you can see from my baby picture – I was quite skilled as a youth myself learning how to do one-armed pushups while at many parties with my mom. They’d reward me with a sip of alcohol whenever I did a set of 10 reps. And if I did more than the dudes then I’d get a whole shot.

  52. In all seriousness though – I’m kind of frustrated with people saying that Casey’s rights are being violated. Do you know how many people are put in jail and have to stay there until their case goes to trial. She’s actually getting special treatment.

    And I’m sorry but there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for not reporting your child at that age is missing as long as she did. That alone justifies the high bond.

    The only thing I think that I think was wrong was the police releasing the jail call and visit tapes. She was dumb enough to initially talk a lot on the calls and they shut down that method of them discoverying something. That was stupid IMO.

  53. I agree TAI they may have learned a lot more if they hadn’t released the tapes and not kept reminding them that they were being taped.

  54. Thinkaboutitsaid

    That was stupid IMO

    ****************************

    Speaking of stupid, I experienced a bit of a wave of pity for old Jive Joel today. I was thinking how he still can’t be sure whether or not he knows what Drew said in his statement to police early on. He hasn’t got a copy, and you know how old Drew P is, he can’t open his mouth without lying. He will have given JB a version that he thinks makes him sound smart or innocent or something. In fact he’s lucky if he’s only had the one version.

  55. Joel would get a copy of that statement if charges are made against Drew as part of the discovery process. He may have already gotten it as part of the discovery for the gun violation.

    (That’s another one of those moves that in hindsight resulted in the defense team getting their hands on some important documents regarding the whole investigation earlier than the prosecution would want them to.)

  56. thinkaboutit2 // September 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    (That’s another one of those moves that in hindsight resulted in the defense team getting their hands on some important documents regarding the whole investigation earlier than the prosecution would want them to.)
    **********************************

    And that’s why it’s surprising that they haven’t charged him with anything at this point. From what I’ve seen Joel has got a lot of discovery materials, way beyond anything pertaining to the modification of the gun. He’s getting a lot of information in advance of any murder charge.

    I wonder (sorry wonderwoman) if they are now regrettting the gun charge.

  57. http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i40122#this

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/5w6cu9

    Hey! Don’t Forget About Me! Says Drew Peterson

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    Former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson, linked to the death of his third wife and the disappearance of his fourth wife has asked everybody not to forget about him – he is still out there and is missing the limelight.

    Peterson who has repeatedly denied involvement in his wife Stacy Peterson’s disappearance last October or the 2004 death of his third wife Kathleen Savio, whose body was found in her bathtub is upset that the media is no longer interested in him – and that people are forgetting about him.

    Police have named Drew Peterson a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance. Savio’s death was ruled a murder in February after her body was exhumed and a second autopsy was performed – however, despite appearing on TV nightly, a radio contest where the winner could go on a date with him and chat shows such as Larry King and Dateline NBC, people don’t seem to be paying him attention anymore.

    “This is ridiculous” said the suspect “What do I have to do to get some attention? I am a double murder suspect – wives god damn it – plural! How come no TV movie yet? How about some more coverage about me? Me! Me! Me!”

    Peterson, appalled by the lack of coverage asked, dejectedly “What the hell do I have to do?”

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  58. I wonder…Will it really make a difference. I am hoping [ while at the same time wondering 🙂 ]
    that they have so much more than they have had to give to JB that it won’t make one bit of difference. What can I say I am an optimist.

    No need to apologize to me about wondering Facs, seeming how I do it all the time. 🙂
    I dont own that phrase, I think it’s great when people use it also.

    I also wonder….Any GJ news ?

  59. “gatehousechicago // September 4, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Hi folks,
    As those of you who live in the area have probably noticed…the weather is pretty terrible today. Because of this, and since we haven’t heard about any big testimony at today’s grand jury, we won’t be staking out the building. But, if we hear anything through the grapevine, we’ll let you know”

  60. Hi!

    I don’t think JB’s got that much. I don’t think he’s got the timeline statement. I think the only discovery would cover the evidence quoted to apply for the warrant and BPD gun record stuff. They didn’t,for instance, have Mike’s full statement. I think most of what they had at the time was a lot of evidence of her fear, and trouble in the marriage. Would they necessarily include Drew’s statement, or just summarize that, too, eg “many inconsistencies”?

  61. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/home/1147080,jo05_stebic_web.article

    Stebic will get his truck, but not the guns

    September 5, 2008

    Stewart Warren / SWARREN@SCN1.COM
    JOLIET — Craig Stebic will get his truck back at 5 p.m. Monday, but he won’t get his guns, a Will County judge decided today.

    Twenty-four guns seized following the disappearance of Stebic’s wife Lisa will be given to a third party, a friend of Stebic’s, according to an agreement before Will County Judge Richard Schoenstedt.

    » Click to enlarge image

    A Will County judge today agreed to return a pickup taken from Craig Stebic’s Plainfield home following the disapperance of his wife, Lisa. But the judge released 24 guns also taken to a friend of Stebic’s who has a valid FOID card.
    (Herald News File Photo)

    » Click to enlarge image

    Craig Stebic (right) leaves the Will County Courthouse with his lawyer, George Lenard. Stebic will get his truck back at 5 p.m. Monday, but he won’t get his guns, a Will County judge said today.
    (John Patsch/Staff Photographer)

    In May 2007, Plainfield police seized the 24 guns and other belongings after Lisa Stebic disappeared. She was last seen by her husband early on the evening of April 30, 2007.

    She either walked away or was picked up from their home at 13244 Red Star Drive in Plainfield’s Nature’s Crossing subdivision, Stebic told Plainfield police. Although her handbag and cell phone were gone, Lisa hadn’t taken her car, a Saturn Ion.

    At the time of her disappearance, the couple had a rocky relationship. Stebic had filed for divorce, but they still lived together with their children in the same home. At that point, the couple barely was on speaking terms, according to Stebic.

    Along with the guns, Plainfield police in May 2007 seized the Saturn and a Chevrolet S-10 pickup with an extended cab and a tarp-covered bed. The Saturn was returned in April, but authorities wanted to keep the truck for further evidence. They allowed the truck to be returned on the condition that they be able to use photos of the truck in any subsequent investigation.

    Police have numerous photos of the truck. Some of those will be given to Stebic’s lawyer, George Lenard. Some will not be given. However, all of the truck photos also will be placed in a court file that will be sealed, meaning the press can’t see them.

    RELATED STORIES
    • Visitation Case: Negotiations break down after one visit
    In May, the state revoked Stebic’s firearm owner identification card. By law, Stebic now cannot own or possess any guns. Schoenstedt said at a June hearing he wanted to know who would take the guns before he granted them to be released.

  62. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1147156,jo05_stebicvis_web.article

    Visitation Case: Negotiations break down after one visit

    September 5, 2008Recommend (3)

    Janet Lundquist / JLUNDQUIST@SCN1.COM
    JOLIET — Scheduling visits between Lisa Stebic’s parents and her children isn’t going so well.

    In July, the parties reached an agreement on a petition that was filed by Lisa’s parents and grandparents — Lawrence and Judith Ruttenberg and Milton and Charlotte Ruttenberg — in November seeking visits with the Stebic kids .

    Negotiations between the Ruttenbergs and Lisa’s husband, Craig Stebic, apparently broke down after an initial visit this summer.

    Lawyers were in court Friday for a status hearing, where they scheduled a meeting with Judge Robert Brumund for Sept. 12.

    Dion Davi, Craig’s attorney, said the Ruttenbergs provided them with a list of dates for future visits. When they responded with a chosen date and time, the Ruttenbergs rejected it, Davi said.

    The Ruttenbergs’ attorney, Tim Daw, said in court that Stebic had decided “the children have no desire to see their grandparents.” Davi immediately said that was false.

  63. http://www.wandtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8960549

    Judge orders police to release Stebics guns, truck

    Associated Press – September 5, 2008 4:24 PM ET

    JOLIET, Ill. (AP) – A judge has ordered the Illinois State Police to hand over 24 guns seized from a suburban Chicago man whose wife has been missing for more than a year to a friend of the man.

    Will County Judge Richard Schoenstedt (SHAYN’-stehd) also ordered authorities Friday to return Craig Stebic’s pickup truck, seized as part of the investigation into the April 2007 disappearance of Lisa Stebic.

    The guns and truck are scheduled to be returned Monday.

    The state police revoked Stebic’s firearm owner’s card this year. The judge previously said he would return the weapons to someone other than Stebic if that person had a valid gun card.

    Stebic has been named a “person of interest” by police in the disappearance of his wife but hasn’t been charged with any crime.

    Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

  64. From Crime Report Daily:
    http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

    September 05, 2008
    Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1 Update

    I apologize for the late update. Today’s search took much longer than I had initially expected.

    As I mentioned earlier today, Tim Miller assigned me to a team of 12 searches, to search a “high priority” area with a K9 team.

    The area we searched was a dead end road near Moss Park. According to a spokesperson with EquuSearch, the area was deemed important by the Orange County Sherriff’s Office. They declined to state the exact reason why the area was considered so important; however a search and rescue specialist told me that all of the high priority areas are based on either cell phone towers that pinged Casey Anthony’s phone during the time Caylee went missing or areas where she was allegedly seen during that same timeframe.

    The particular area we searched today was mostly swampy, with areas of loose sand and dense brush. Two dog handlers joined us in the search, one a cadaver dog and the other a K 9 that had been specifically trained to find bones

    Shortly after beginning the search, my team did make two interesting finds, although it remains unclear if either is relevant to the investigation.

    Continue reading “Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1 Update” »

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    Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 1

    I arrived at the Texas EquuSearch command post at about 7:30 a.m. today. Tim Miller gave Investigation Discovery exclusive behind the scenes access and has promised to alert us of any important developments.

    I have been assigned to a team of 12 searchers and we are now preparing to go into a high priority area with a K9 team.

    As an FYI, a source close to the investigation has told me that ABC News 20/20 has offered the Anthony family one million dollars for an exclusive interview. The same source claims that AIM Productions from Nashville has also offered the family one million for book and movie rights.

    I will continue to post updates throughout the day and will be on the scene at the Anthony home later tonight to cover a scheduled protest.

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    Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero

    My plane landed in Orlando at 11:00 p.m. After getting settled into to my hotel I called Mandy Albritton, the search director for Texas EquuSearch. According to Mandy, things are starting to pick up and they are seeing a lot more people stepping up and volunteering for the search effort.

    Mandy also informed me that the command center has moved and is now located at 6317 McCoy Rd., Orlando, FL 32822.

    While in route to Florida, I was informed that an anonymous person posted Casey Anthony’s $500,000 bond. According to Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, the individual put up the money because they believe Anthony’s constitutional rights have been violated.

    As a result of these most recent developments, Anthony is expected to be released sometime tomorrow.

    I am going to head over to the command center at about 7:00 a.m. tomorrow. I’ll continue to update the blog with photos and information throughout the day.

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  65. TODAY’S UPDATES

    Investigators remove evidence from George Anthony’s car

    2:45 a.m. Investigators traveled to the Anthony home and removed evidence from a vehicle owned by Anthony’s father, George Anthony. Deputies were seen removing the contents of the spare-wheel well and taking at least one item as evidence.

    ———– FROM THE SEPT. 6 EDITION OF THE ORLANDO SENTINEL

  66. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/plainfieldsun/news/1148081,4_1_JO06_STEBIC_S2.article

    Lisa’s parents fight for a second visit

    September 6, 2008Recommend

    By JANET LUNDQUIST jlundquist@scn1.com
    JOLIET — Scheduling visits between Lisa Stebic’s parents and her children isn’t going so well.

    In July, the parties reached an agreement on a petition that was filed by the missing Plainfield mom’s parents and grandparents — Lawrence and Judith Ruttenberg and Milton and Charlotte Ruttenberg — in November seeking visits with the two Stebic kids.

    Lisa Stebic’s parents and grandparents are fighting for visitation rights to see Lisa and Craig Stebic’s children, pictured here at a vigil held for their missing mother in April 2007.
    (Sun-Times News Group file photo)

    Lawyers were in court Friday for a status hearing, where they scheduled a meeting with Judge Robert Brumund for Friday.

    The Ruttenbergs’ attorney, Timothy Daw, said in court that Craig is unreasonably withholding a second visit, and that Craig had decided “the children have no desire to see their grandparents.”

    Dion Davi, Craig’s attorney, immediately said that was false. He said the Ruttenbergs provided them with a list of dates for future visits. When they responded with a chosen date and time, the Ruttenbergs rejected it, Davi said.

    The visitation agreement is confidential, as well as the date of the visit, which Davi said went well. Attorneys declined to elaborate on the points of contention.

    Lisa was reported missing May 1, 2007, after she was last seen at her Plainfield home. Despite extensive searches and investigation, no trace of her has been found.

    Police have named Craig a “person of interest” in Lisa’s disappearance, but he has not been charged in connection with the case.

    In their petition for visitation, the Ruttenbergs claim Craig is an unfit parent and say he has unreasonably denied visits with the children.

    RELATED STORIES
    • Stebic will get his truck, but not the guns
    Communication between the Ruttenbergs and Lisa’s husband, Craig Stebic, apparently broke down after an initial visit this summer.

  67. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-stebic_both_06sep06,0,71669.story

    Authorities ordered to return Craig Stebic’s truck
    His seized firearms, ammunition will be given to his friend

    By Erika Slife
    10:53 PM CDT, September 5, 2008

    Craig Stebic scored a legal victory Friday when a Will County judge ordered Plainfield police to return the truck they seized from him last year in their investigation into the disappearance of his wife, Lisa.

    Judge Richard Schoenstedt also ruled that Stebic’s weapons could be turned over to his friend, Marco Aguilera Jr., whose father works with Stebic.

    Stebic’s firearm owner’s identification card was revoked by Illinois State Police. Schoenstedt previously had said Stebic’s 24 guns and ammunition could be retrieved by someone with a gun card, and he ordered them returned Monday.

    “We’re happy he got the guns back and the truck back,” said Stebic’s attorney, George Lenard, after the hearing. Stebic’s belongings were seized by police as possible evidence shortly after his wife vanished from their Plainfield home on April 30, 2007. Plainfield police named Stebic a “person of interest” in her disappearance. The couple had begun divorce proceedings, and the day she disappeared she mailed her lawyer a petition to have her husband evicted from their home.

    Stebic has not been charged and maintains that he is innocent.

    Authorities said Lisa Stebic’s investigation remains their top priority.

    “We’ve thoroughly examined everything that’s being returned,” said Detective Sgt. Troy Kivisto. “We obviously can’t hold his stuff hostage.”

    Stebic faces an ongoing legal battle with his wife’s parents and grandparents, who are seeking visitation rights with the couple’s two children, ages 12 and 13.

    Although an interim agreement had been reached earlier this summer, the attorney for Lisa’s parents, Lawrence and Judith Ruttenberg, and her grandparents, Milton and Charlotte Ruttenberg, said Friday there had been only one visit this summer.

    “It did not go well,” their attorney, Timothy Daw, told Judge Robert Brumund at a status hearing.

    eslife@tribune.com

    Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune

  68. From the front page of Sunday edition of the Chicago Sun-Times (available for purchase today):

    “EXCLUSIVE EXCERPTS FROM
    FATAL VOWS THE TRAGIC WIVES OF SERGEANT DREW PETERSON

    BY JOSEPH HOSEY

    PAGES 16-17A”

  69. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/true_crime

    UPCOMING SHOW: 9/7/2008 10:00 PM

    War on Crime radio

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    Set Reminder Date / Time: 9/7/2008 10:00 PM EST

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    Call-in Number: (347) 838-9781

    Susan Murphy-Milano: Victims Rights Activist, tells us what is coming up on the new BTR show “Justice Interrupted.”

    Dr. Maurice Godwin: expert in geographical profiling. Weighs in on the search for missing Orlando Florida toddler Caylee Anthony, and the case against her mother Casey Anthony.

    -Robin Sax: Sex Crimes Prosecutor, weighs in on the “Chester The Molester” trial.

    – Stacy Dittrich: Law Enforcement expert joins us to discuss the murder of fellow police officer Brian Evans, and the shocking story of injustice that followed!

    Schedule

    9/10/2008 10:00 PM – War on Crime radio

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  70. One of the K9 handlers said that they would have an easier time during the search if Casey Anthony or her family would provide them with an item that would have Caylee Anthony’s scent on it. According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it. From David Lohr member of search team and criminal writer.
    Why in the world would they refuse??????

  71. Guilt?

    Although I’m sure if asked, they would say it was because they do not believe Caylee is dead.

    And yes, I get that they could find other items related to Caylee other than her body that might actually help find her.

    So I can’t quite figure what is going through the family’s mind …

  72. Geesh. Supporting and standing by their daughter for a hideous act she may have done doesn’t have to mean using valuable resources with the intent of deceit, knowing full well that baby child is probably dead and buried somewhere. I’m sickened by the way Casey’s parents and brother are using the media to promote the lies of Casey, instead of working on coming to grips with reality and the truth, and trying to bring this nightmare to an end. And, when the media reports aren’t going in their favor, or the people they’ve recruited to help finally realize what the real truth is, they scorn and lash out at just those people.

    What a dysfunctional family. The whole lot of them. Certainly, anyone would feel compassion for the grandparents and the uncle facing the ordeal of losing this child and knowing who was responsible, but continuing to play into Casey’s lies is disgusting.

  73. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-090608,0,4836790.story

    Casey Anthony remains out of jail in home confinement

    Helen Eckinger | Sentinel Staff Writer
    2:37 PM EDT, September 6, 2008

    Casey Anthony will not be rearrested today for violating the conditions of her home confinement, after deputies found a handgun in the trunk of her father’s car.

    Early this morning, deputies arrived at the home of Anthony’s parents, where she has been staying since her most recent release from jail on Friday morning, after receiving a tip that there was a weapon on the property. There, they found a handgun in the trunk of Casey’s father, George Anthony, according to Allen Moore, a spokesman for the Orange County Corrections Department.

    One of the conditions of the home confinement agreement that Casey Anthony signed prior to her release from jail is that there be no weapons on the property. But, because there was no indication that Anthony was aware of the gun’s presence, Judge Stan Strickland advised the duty judge that he did not wish to bring her back into custody or modify the conditions of her bail because of the incident.

    Anthony remains on home confinement as a condition of her bail.

  74. Another story on same thing …

    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/….ony39s_car.html

    Gun Taken From Anthony Home
    Saturday, September 06, 2008 2:05:01 PM

    ORLANDO — News 13 has learned a gun was taken from the home of the grandparents of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony early Saturday morning.

    The Orlando Sentinel reported Saturday Orange County deputies were seen taking something from the spare tire well in George Anthony’s car.

    A spokesman with the Orange County Corrections Department told News 13 they received a tip sometime between 12 a.m. and 1 a.m. Saturday of a handgun present on the Anthonys’ property.

    The weapon is being held by the Orange County Sheriff’s Office for safe keeping.

    Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony’s bail. Casey was released for the second time from the Orange County Jail Friday. See previous story.

    The judge who issued the bail said, however, since it seemed Casey was unaware of the gun, she will not be taken back into custody.

  75. Grandam sez –

    According to the handler, an item was requested from the family but they allegedly refused to provide it. ..Why in the world would they refuse??????
    ————————————————
    My guess is that wacky family is scared to death that if they supplied a scent, poor lil Caylee would be discovered PDQ especially if she “is close to home” like Casey said. And heaven forbid there’s a chloroform-soaked rag with the body.

    Hey – if Casey soaked the body with the leftover chloroform, would that prevent dogs from finding her scent??

  76. “lk County prosecutors would not comment about the case because the outcome is pending. However, 10th Circuit State Attorney’s Office spokesman Chip Thullbery said, “Theoretically, you could have a no-body case that was stronger than a body case, depending on the all the facts.””

    Interesting.

  77. http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1149189,CST-NWS-fatalvows07.article

    Excerpts from ‘Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson’

    September 7, 2008Recommend (2)

    WITH JOSEPH HOSEY Herald News
    Last October, Stacy Peterson disappeared. And with her disappearance, a national spotlight fell on Bolingbrook, the previously tranquil southwest suburb where the 23-year-old woman lived with her husband, Drew Peterson, then a Bolingbrook police sergeant, and their children.

    Suspicion centered on Drew Peterson, who has steadfastly maintained that the missing woman — his fourth wife — ran off, probably with another man. Peterson has not been charged but has been identified by investigators as a “suspect” in the still-unsolved disappearance.

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    In a new book, Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson, Joe Hosey, a reporter for the Herald News in Joliet since 1999, draws on interviews with the family and friends of the missing woman and with Drew Peterson himself to examine the bizarre case.
    (SNTG file)

    Adding intrigue: Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio, had been found dead in the bathtub of the couple’s home in 2004 — a death that initially had been ruled accidental. But amid questions raised by Stacy Peterson’s disappearance, Savio’s body was exhumed for a second autopsy. As a result of that newly reopened investigation, in February Savio’s death was ruled a homicide.

    In a new book, Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson (Phoenix Books, $25.95), Joe Hosey, a reporter for the Herald News in Joliet since 1999, draws on interviews with the family and friends of the missing woman and with Drew Peterson himself to examine the bizarre case, which Hosey has covered for the Herald News and the Chicago Sun-Times.

    What follows are two excerpts from the book. The first recounts the inquest by Will County Coroner Patrick O’Neil into Savio’s death. The second excerpt begins with Stacy Peterson’s friend Sharon Bychowski’s surprise at not being able to reach her by phone last Oct. 28:

    O’Neil ran the show at Savio’s inquest, but the star player at the proceeding was Special Agent [Herbert] Hardy of the Illinois State Police. Hardy was dispatched to testify, even though he only played a small role in the investigation of the woman’s death. He did not talk to Peterson or Stacy, and he never met with friends or family of Peterson and Savio. He also did not attend Savio’s autopsy and never made an appearance in the second-story bathroom of 392 Pheasant Chase Drive to inspect the death scene. Yet he was the representative the state police selected to attend the inquest of a police sergeant’s former wife, who died mysteriously in the midst of

    an acrimonious divorce, and who had at one time filed an order of protection in which she alleged he had threatened to kill her.

    Hardy did question some of Savio’s neighbors, but . . .

    “I didn’t talk to the ones that were really close to her,” Hardy testified at the inquest. “Myself and [another agent] did what we call a ‘neighborhood canvass,’ and we did speak to quite a few of the neighbors in the general area of the residence.”

    It came as little surprise that Hardy did not get much information out of those neighbors.

    “Did anyone hear or see anything unusual, see any squad cars or anything, any suspicious activity in that area?” O’Neil, the coroner, asked Hardy.

    Hardy said they had not.

    “Did you find any signs of foul play during the course of your investigation?” O’Neil asked.

    “No, sir,” Hardy said. “We did not.”

    There were no indications of a burglary or home invasion, no weapons in the house and, according to Hardy, no signs on Savio’s body or in the home that a struggle had taken place.

    “Everything seemed to be in order,” he said. The only possible exception was an unmade bed with some books and magazines on it. “Nobody related to us that they saw anything unusual in the neighborhood those last few days.”

    The only unusual thing was the dead woman in the dry bathtub.

    “There was no water [in] the tub when our agents arrived,” Hardy said. “It must have drained out after setting for such a long period of time.”

    Savio’s hair was still wet, the special agent noted, her fingertips were pruned, and her skin was wrinkled. She had a cut on the back of her head, and a small amount of blood was in the tub.

    “We think that the laceration from her — that she sustained to the back of her head — was caused by a fall in the tub,” Hardy said. “There was nothing to lead us to believe that anything else occurred. There was no other evidence at this time that shows that anything else occurred.”

    Hardy never laid out a specific scenario about what state police believe immediately preceded the fall in the tub. Had Savio, at the end of her bath, stood to unplug the drain but slipped before she could do so? Had she slipped getting into the tub? State police didn’t say; perhaps it was not something that could be determined. The tub stopper was down — that was confirmed at the inquest — but there was no mention of having tested the stopper to see how fast a tubful of water could seep away. Would a plugged-up tub drain and dry out in less than two days, the amount of time between Savio’s phone call with her boyfriend and the discovery of her body? Would a body lying in a tub trap some water underneath it that wouldn’t evaporate in that time? If any of these questions factored in to the state police’s deliberations, the public never knew of it.

    Savio, state police concluded, had fallen and drowned in the tub while water slowly drained away; she died from an accidental drowning.

    “And at the point we’re at now,” Hardy said, “we’re still waiting. . . . All alibis, all stories were checked as to where people were, and if I remember . . . if I recall correctly, the only thing we’re waiting for now is some phone records to find out if certain calls were made when they said they were made. So at this point, that’s where we’re at.” And it’s at that point that they pretty much stayed for the next three and half years.

    In stark contrast to Hardy’s confidence in how Savio perished, her family testified at the inquest that they never for a moment believed her death was an accident. Rather, they told the jury that Savio lived in terror of Peterson.

    Savio’s sister, Susan Savio, said Kathleen even predicted that, if she died, “It may look like an accident, but it wasn’t.”

    “And it’s just very hard for me to accept that,” Susan continued, “what had happened. His reactions to this were a laughing matter — cleaning everything out, ready to get rid of the house. It’s very hard.”

    Peterson did not attend the inquest.

    Family members also brought up financial issues between Kathleen Savio and Peterson. In the divorce settlement, Savio was to get the house. Once she had it, Susan Savio said, “She was going to sell the house and move away.” But Peterson had other plans, according to Savio family members.

    Around 2 p.m., Bychowski called Stacy’s cell phone. The call went straight to voice mail, which struck Bychowski as odd. “When she’s gone, she never turned her cell off, ever.”

    Bychowski did not hear from Stacy for the rest of the day. At about 8:30 a.m. the next morning — Monday, Oct. 29 — her doorbell rang. She expected it to be Stacy, who usually rang the bell and walked right in. This time, though, it was Peterson. He grabbed Bychowski by the arm and, saying he needed her, took her to his house. She didn’t even have time to put on her shoes.

    “I thought, ‘Oh, my God. Oh, my God, what’s wrong?’ My heart is pounding, that kind of pounding when you get pulled over by the cops? . . . ‘What’s wrong? What’s wrong?’ ‘Just come, come.’ He wouldn’t tell me. I see that there’s both cars in the driveway.”

    • • • •

    Once she was inside Peterson’s house, he dropped what he must have thought was a bombshell, only Bychowski knew it was coming.

    “He says, ‘She left me,’ ” Bychowski said. “I go, ‘Yeah.’ . . . I’m thinking, ‘And?’ ‘Cause I know how unhappy she is, and I know she wants to leave him. I thought she left for sure.

    “I said, ‘Where are the kids?’ And he says, ‘They’re upstairs.’ ”

    With this revelation, she knew something was amiss.

    “He goes, ‘I know this is really difficult for you. I know you thought she was your bud and all.’ I’m like, ‘Now what do I do?’ I’m in the house alone with him, basically. And you know what else was odd? Everything was perfect. Like, we have the same flowers. They’re always on her kitchen table. Gone. There’s nothing on the kitchen table. No kids’ place mats. No sippy cups. Nothing. Odd.”

    Peterson then complained of Stacy looting their safe and going on a spending spree. He said she took $25,000 from their safe at home, Bychowski said, but Stacy had told Bychowski the week before that she had transferred $25,000 to pay off a home-equity line of credit so they would only have to divide up assets and not liabilities. “But he doesn’t know that I know that,” Bychowski said. “So I just said, ‘Oh.’ ”

    Peterson said Stacy also took passports and car and house titles and bought herself new clothes and a bikini. The list gave Bychowski further cause for concern.

    “Well, I also know that she has a favorite bikini. She’s not going to give that up. I know she has these fabulous bras that she bought herself as a treat after she had her liposuction. I said, ‘She’s not giving up those bras.’ I know her. She had favorite bras. She’s not giving up all those bras.”

    Bychowski was in disbelief. She figured Stacy would leave Peterson sooner or later, but she could not swallow that the young woman would abruptly depart without taking her children. When she got home and briefed her husband, she said he had a similar sense of dread.

    “I said, ‘Bob, the kids are there.’ He sits up and he goes, ‘OK, that’s not right.’ I said, ‘You don’t think I’m being a drama queen to tell you that I think that there’s something wrong with this?’ And he goes, ‘One thing I know about her is, she’d never leave her kids.’

    “My husband’s not involved with a lot of stuff,” Bychowski said, “but he knows her well enough to know those kids are always with her.”

    Soon after Bychowski returned home, Stacy’s sister Cassandra and Bruce Zidarich were at her door.

    Zidarich asked Bychowski if she’d heard about Stacy; Bychowski said she had. Stacy’s sister, Bychowski said, was crying.

    Cassandra had apparently had a sleepless, stressful night. After not hearing from Stacy all day Sunday, around 11 that evening she had gone to her sister’s house. The driveway was empty. She said she spoke with her nephew Kristopher, who told her his parents had fought that morning, then Stacy had left, and his father was out looking for her.

    Cassandra left the house and called Peterson on his cell phone. She was sitting in the parking lot of a nearby Meijer department store when he told her that Stacy had run off, and he was trying to find her. She said Peterson also told her he was home, which she found difficult to believe, considering she had just been there.

    Cassandra then went to the Downers Grove Police Department. She did not want to trust the matter to the Bolingbrook police, and might have chosen the Downers Grove police because she had grown up in the town, but they sent her to Bolingbrook anyway.

    From the Bolingbrook Police Department, Cassandra drove by her sister’s home again. This time, both the Denali and the Grand Prix were parked there. Cassandra then headed to the nearby District 5 state police headquarters and, in the early hours of Monday, Oct. 29, reported Stacy Peterson missing.

    By the time Cassandra showed up at Bychowski’s house, she had an awful feeling about what had happened to her sister.

    “She said, ‘He killed her. He killed her,’ ” Bychowski said.

  78. http://www.post-trib.com/news/1147165,FATAL907.article

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/5mgneh

    Peterson case results in new book

    September 7, 2008Recommend
    Sun-Times News Group

    Last October, Stacy Peterson disappeared.

    And with her disappearance, a national spotlight fell on Bolingbrook, Ill., the previously tranquil southwest suburb where the 23-year-old woman lived with her husband, Drew Peterson, then a

    Bolingbrook police sergeant, and their children.

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    Stacy Peterson (right) and her sister, Cassandra Cales, decked out in Drew Peterson’s SWAT
    uniform and toting his infamous AR-15, are shown in never-before-seen photograph.

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    Joe Hosey, a reporter for the Herald News in Joliet, Ill., has written “Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson.”

    Suspicion centered on Drew Peterson, who has steadfastly maintained that the missing woman

    — his fourth wife — ran off, probably with another man.

    Peterson has not been charged but has been identified by investigators as a “suspect” in the still-unsolved disappearance.

    Adding intrigue: Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio, had been found dead in the bathtub of the

    couple’s home in 2004 — a death that initially had been ruled accidental.

    But, amid questions raised by Stacy Peterson’s disappearance, Savio’s body was exhumed for a

    second autopsy. As a result of that newly reopened investigation, in February Savio’s death was
    ruled a homicide.

    In a new book, “Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson” (Phoenix Books,

    $25.95), Joe Hosey, a reporter for the Herald News in Joliet since 1999, draws on interviews with

    the family and friends of the missing woman and with Drew Peterson himself to examine the

    bizarre case, which Hosey has covered for the Herald News and the Chicago Sun-Times.

    What follows are two excerpts from the book. The first recounts the inquest by Will County

    Coroner Patrick O’Neil into Savio’s death. The second excerpt begins with Stacy Peterson’s

    friend Sharon Bychowski’s surprise at not being able to reach her by phone last Oct. 28.

    Editor’s note: Two excerpts from “Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson” by

    Joe Hosey follow. The first recounts the inquest by Will County Coroner Patrick O’Neil into

    Kathleen Savio’s death. The second excerpt begins with Stacy Peterson’s friend Sharon

    Bychowski’s surprise at not being able to reach her by phone last Oct. 28. (Will County Coroner Patrick) O’Neil ran the show at (Kathleen) Savio’s inquest, but the star player at the proceeding was Special Agent (Herbert) Hardy of the Illinois State Police.

    Hardy was dispatched to testify, even though he only played a small role in the investigation of the woman’s death. He did not talk to (Drew) Peterson or Stacy (Peterson), and he never met with friends or family of Peterson and Savio. He also did not attend Savio’s autopsy and never made an appearance in the second-story bathroom of 392 Pheasant Chase Drive to inspect the
    death scene.

    Yet he was the representative the state police selected to attend the inquest of a police sergeant’s former wife, who died mysteriously in the midst of an acrimonious divorce, and who had at one time filed an order of protection in which she alleged he had threatened to kill her.

    Hardy did question some of Savio’s neighbors, but … “I didn’t talk to the ones that were really close to her,” Hardy testified at the inquest.

    “Myself and (another agent) did what we call a ‘neighborhood canvas,’ and we did speak to quite a few of the neighbors in the general area of the residence.”

    It came as little surprise that Hardy did not get much information out of those neighbors.

    “Did anyone hear or see anything unusual, see any squad cars or anything, any suspicious activity in that area?” O’Neil, the coroner, asked Hardy.

    Hardy said they had not.

    “Did you find any signs of foul play during the course of your investigation?” O’Neil asked.

    “No, sir,” Hardy said. “We did not.”

    There were no indications of a burglary or home invasion, no weapons in the house and, according to Hardy, no signs on Savio’s body or in the home that a struggle had taken place.

    “Everything seemed to be in order,” he said.

    The only possible exception was an unmade bed with some books and magazines on it.

    “Nobody related to us that they saw anything unusual in the neighborhood those last few days.”

    The only unusual thing was the dead woman in the dry bathtub.

    “There was no water (in) the tub when our agents arrived,” Hardy said. “It must have drained out
    after setting for such a long period of time.”

    Savio’s hair was still wet, the special agent noted, her fingertips were pruned, and her skin was wrinkled. She had a cut on the back of her head, and a small amount of blood was in the tub.

    “We think that the laceration from her — that she sustained to the back of her head — was caused by a fall in the tub,” Hardy said. “There was nothing to lead us to believe that anything

    else occurred. There was no other evidence at this time that shows that anything else occurred.”

    Hardy never laid out a specific scenario about what state police believe immediately preceded the
    fall in the tub.

    Had Savio, at the end of her bath, stood to unplug the drain but slipped before she could do so?
    Had she slipped getting in to the tub?

    State police didn’t say; perhaps it was not something that could be determined. The tub stopper was down — that was confirmed at the inquest — but there was no mention of having tested the stopper to see how fast a tubful of water could seep away.

    Would a plugged-up tub drain and dry out in less than two days, the amount of time between Savio’s phone call with her boyfriend and the discovery of her body?

    Would a body lying in a tub trap some water underneath it that wouldn’t evaporate in that time?

    If any of these questions factored in to the state police’s deliberations, the public never knew of it.

    Savio, state police concluded, had fallen and drowned in the tub while water slowly drained away;
    she died from an accidental drowning.

    “And at the point we’re at now,” Hardy said, “we’re still waiting … All alibis, all stories were checked as to where people were, and if I remember … if I recall correctly, the only thing we’re waiting for now is some phone records to find out if certain calls were made when they said they were made. So at this point, that’s where we’re at.”

    And it’s at that point that they pretty much stayed for the next three and half years.

    In stark contrast to Hardy’s confidence in how Savio perished, her family testified at the inquest that they never for a moment believed her death was an accident. Rather, they told the jury that

    Savio lived in terror of Peterson.

    Savio’s sister, Susan Savio, said Kathleen even predicted that, if she died, “It may look like an
    accident, but it wasn’t.”

    “And it’s just very hard for me to accept that,” Susan continued, “what had happened. His

    reactions to this were a laughing matter — cleaning everything out, ready to get rid of the house.

    It’s very hard.”

    Peterson did not attend the inquest.

    Family members also brought up financial issues between Kathleen Savio and Peterson.

    In the divorce settlement, Savio was to get the house. Once she had it, Susan Savio said, “She was going to sell the house and move away.”

    But Peterson had other plans, according to Savio family members.

    Around 2 p.m., (Stacy Peterson’s friend Sharon) Bychowski called Stacy’s cell phone. The call
    went straight to voice mail, which struck Bychowski as odd.

    “When she’s gone, she never turned her cell off, ever.”

    Bychowski did not hear from Stacy for the rest of the day.

    At about 8:30 a.m. the next morning — Monday, Oct. 29 — her doorbell rang. She expected it to
    be Stacy, who usually rang the bell and walked right in. This time, though, it was Peterson.

    He grabbed Bychowski by the arm and, saying he needed her, took her to his house. She didn’t
    even have time to put on her shoes.

    “I thought, ‘Oh, my God. Oh, my God, what’s wrong?’ My heart is pounding, that kind of pounding
    when you get pulled over by the cops? … ‘What’s wrong? What’s wrong?’ ‘Just come, come.’ He
    wouldn’t tell me. I see that there’s both cars in the driveway.”

    Once she was inside Peterson’s house, he dropped what he must have thought was a bombshell,
    only Bychowski knew it was coming.

    “He says, ‘She left me,’ ” Bychowski said.

    “I go, ‘Yeah’ … I’m thinking, ‘And?’ ’Cause I know how unhappy she is, and I know she wants to leave him. I thought she left for sure.

    “I said, ‘Where are the kids?’ And he says, ‘They’re upstairs.’”

    With this revelation, she knew something was amiss.

    “He goes, ‘I know this is really difficult for you. I know you thought she was your bud and all.’ I’m like, ‘Now what do I do?’ I’m in the house alone with him, basically. And you know what else was odd? Everything was perfect. Like, we have the same flowers. They’re always on her kitchen
    table. Gone. There’s nothing on the kitchen table. No kids’ placemats. No sippy cups. Nothing.
    Odd.”

    Peterson then complained of Stacy looting their safe and going on a spending spree.

    He said she took $25,000 from their safe at home, Bychowski said, but Stacy had told

    Bychowski the week before that she had transferred $25,000 to pay off a home-equity line of credit so they would only have to divide up assets and not liabilities.

    “But he doesn’t know that I know that,” Bychowski said. “So I just said, ‘Oh.’ ”

    Peterson said Stacy also took passports and car and house titles and bought herself new clothes
    and a bikini. The list gave Bychowski further cause for concern.

    “Well, I also know that she has a favorite bikini. She’s not going to give that up. I know she has
    these fabulous bras that she bought herself as a treat after she had her liposuction. I said, ‘She’s not giving up those bras.’ I know her. She had favorite bras. She’s not giving up all those bras.”

    Bychowski was in disbelief.

    She figured Stacy would leave Peterson sooner or later, but she could not swallow that the young
    woman would abruptly depart without taking her children.

    When she got home and briefed her husband, she said he had a similar sense of dread.

    “I said, ‘Bob, the kids are there.’ He sits up and he goes, ‘OK, that’s not right.’ I said, ‘You don’t think I’m being a drama queen to tell you that I think that there’s something wrong with this?’ And he goes, ‘One thing I know about her is, she’d never leave her kids.’

    “My husband’s not involved with a lot of stuff,” Bychowski said, “but he knows her well enough to know those kids are always with her.”

    Soon after Bychowski returned home, Stacy’s sister, Cassandra, and Bruce Zidarich were at her
    door.

    Zidarich asked Bychowski if she’d heard about Stacy; Bychowski said she had.

    Stacy’s sister, Bychowski said, was crying.

    Cassandra had apparently had a sleepless, stressful night. After not hearing from Stacy all day

    Sunday, around 11 that evening she had gone to her sister’s house.

    The driveway was empty. She said she spoke with her nephew, Kristopher, who told her his
    parents had fought that morning, then Stacy had left, and his father was out looking for her.

    Cassandra left the house and called Peterson on his cell phone. She was sitting in the parking lot
    of a nearby Meijer department store when he told her that Stacy had run off, and he was trying to
    find her.

    She said Peterson also told her he was home, which she found difficult to believe, considering
    she had just been there.

    Cassandra then went to the Downers Grove Police Department. She did not want to trust the matter to the Bolingbrook police, and might have chosen the Downers Grove police because she had grown up in the town, but they sent her to Bolingbrook anyway.

    From the Bolingbrook Police Department, Cassandra drove by her sister’s home again.

    This time, both the Denali and the Grand Prix were parked there.

    Cassandra then headed to the nearby District 5 state police headquarters and, in the early hours of Monday, Oct. 29, reported Stacy Peterson missing.

    By the time Cassandra showed up at Bychowski’s house, she had an awful feeling about what had happened to her sister.

    “She said, ‘He killed her. He killed her,’ ” Bychowski said.

  79. Caylee Anthony Search Suspended
    I just spoke with Mandy Albritton, the search director for Texas EquuSearch, and she informed me that the search for Caylee Anthony has been temporarily suspended.

    High waters have left many of the areas both unsearchable and unsafe for volunteers.

    According to Mandy, the search will continue once the water recedes. At this time it remains unclear when that will happen.

    I’ll provide more details on this latest development later tonight.
    http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

  80. George Anthony Headed to Jail For Assaulting Protesters?
    George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony and grandfather of missing three-year-old Caylee Anthony, freaked out on a group of protesters today and allegedly pushed two of them – a young man and an old lady – because they were standing in front of his house.

    I was not on the scene when the argument occurred; however I did locate both victims of the alleged attack and they agreed to talk about it.

    In related news, the sheriff’s department was on scene when I arrived, busy handing out tickets to anyone who drove by and honked the horn in front of the house. They were also giving tickets to motorists who were blocking the road.

    I’ll have more updates later, along with an entry about my activities from earlier today.
    from http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

  81. I really thnk the police should have acted MUCH sooner to keep the peace. It is just a hate mob. “Protesters” would be protesting outside of police station/ court/ city hall?

    The way some of them behave….giving a toddler a sign to carry, teaching them to scream and persecute shames everyone and accomplishes nothing.

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