Your Thread – October 20

A little early but here you go…the old thread seems to be moving rather sluggishly.

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56 thoughts on “Your Thread – October 20

  1. That’s the diamond in the rough! He has to stick with what he said in the first hours/days, yet, he continues to elaborate and add to it.

    Just more to compare and pick apart.

    Same with Kathleen’s murder and his time line. He could never have expected they’d exhume her body, and cell phone records would be really be looked at this time. Maybe another “witness” thrown into the mix.

    Jennifer, Steve’s ex, certainly has no reason to protect DPeterson.

  2. rescueapet // October 19, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    Re: Phone call from Stacy:

    9 P.M.* At home, receives call from Stacy that she found someone and is leaving.

    At home? I never really gave this any attention and noticed this before. He says he was “at home” when he got the call from Stacy on his cell phone. Isn’t that easily enough verified, especially since there’s opposing information from Morphey?
    ********************

    …and cell phone pings? But he’s going to stick with it, huh?

  3. rescueapet // October 20, 2008 at 12:08 am

    “That’s the diamond in the rough! He has to stick with what he said in the first hours/days, yet, he continues to elaborate and add to it.”

    actually from what i understand he has given le no more than the initial interviews adding nothing. short and simple. she left. without alot of detail. he’s no dummy. he is not the only person that knows that the more detail or info you give, the more there is to pick apart.

    what he has said outside of isps interview rooms is something entirely different.

  4. Aw, thanks…

    I’ve got so much catching up to do, it feels like I’m stuck commenting and asking queries about Act I, whilst everyone else is already in Act V.

    Where the devil is Hercule Poirot when ya need the little Belgian bugger?

  5. Been a reader here for some time now,and after last night, I decided to post. I do see that Gatehouse deleted all the personal attacts that went on here, Thankyou Gatehouse.
    I do believe that there is more here than meets the eye. We have all come together for 1 reason or another but, we all had in the beginning,1 common denominater,that being Stacy. My,how far we have come in 1 year.
    In this past year,we have come so far in many ways,and than again,how far have we all came? Look back people, I ask you? All I see now is hate and personal attacts. Everyone has the right to voice ones opinion,but when someone over steps the bounds by accusing each other of stealing,hurting the children,being low lifes,etc, now that is wrong. We are coming up to the 1 year here, Lets not loose sight on what brought us all together in the first place.
    I for one, have no room in my heart for the hate that has taken place here. Maybe once Mr. Peterson is behind bars, we can all start the healing process.
    I will be there on the 28th, to show my heartfelt respect. I wish others would put aside,their selfishness, and join me.

    That being said,God Bless Kathleen and Stacy, and the children, and May God Bless each of you.

  6. In Drew’s timeline in the (sorry!) Derek A. book, does he actually say he attended the concert?

    I thought he said that his son was picked up at 2:15 or so … as if that meant that he was there.

  7. Noway – JMHO – no need to be sorry.

    2 P.M.* Calls work (Bolingbrook police). Takes the night off. (Did this because he was retiring in December and had accumulated sick time to use or lose.
    3:15 P.M.* Tom, his 14-year-old son, is picked up by friends for a band concert.

  8. Actually, here’s the whole timeline as in the book:

    Drew’s timeline
    In the new book Drew Peterson Exposed, the former Bolingbrook cop for the first time provides his own detailed account of his actions on Oct. 28, 2007 — the day his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared:

    5:30-6 A.M.* Comes home from work at Bolingbrook Police Department.
    * Talked to Stacy, who said she was going to visit her grandfather.
    * Went to sleep.
    10-10:30 A.M. (PERHAPS AS LATE AS 11 A.M.)* Awakened by children.
    * Stacy gone, kids home.
    NOON-1 P.M.* At home with kids.
    1-1:30 PM* Children at home (Tom and Kris watching Anthony and Lacy).
    * Goes out to run Sunday errands.
    2 P.M.* Calls work (Bolingbrook police). Takes the night off. (Did this because he was retiring in December and had accumulated sick time to use or lose.
    3:15 P.M.* Tom, his 14-year-old son, is picked up by friends for a band concert.
    6 P.M.* Takes Kris, Anthony and Lacy to McDonald’s. They have dinner and play at the playground at McDonald’s.
    7:30 P.M.* Returns home with Kris, Anthony and Lacy.
    8 P.M.* Tom gets home from band concert.
    9 P.M.* At home, receives call from Stacy that she found someone and is leaving.
    9:15 P.M.* Leaves home to go and look for Stacy.
    11-11:30 P.M.* Returns home.
    * Gets call from Stacy’s sister, Cassandra Cales while still in the driveway. Tells her Stacy called and said she left with another man and took her passport, money and clothes.
    11:45 P.M.* Walks and gets Stacy’s car and drives it home.
    MIDNIGHT* Gets home and goes to bed.
    AROUND 2:30 A.M.* Gets call from Bolingbrook PD telling him Cassandra Cales is filing a missing-persons report regarding Stacy
    * Vaguely recalls getting another call, maybe from Cassandra’s friend Bruce Zidrach. (Very tired and does not have a clear recollection of this call).

  9. I was thinking that’s the kind of thing D could say to make sound like he was there, even if he wasn’t. Time pre-arranged.

  10. Well, according to the above, after 1:30pm, he goes out to run errands. Doesn’t specify where he was when he called into work at 2pm. Doesn’t specify when he returned home. Doesn’t even specify, in this particular timeline, if he was home when his son was picked up. Since I don’t really know if he detailed that somewhere else or not, I’m not leaving it at that and providing the information as it was published.

    From 3:15pm to 6pm, there’s a big gap as to what, exactly, he was doing.

  11. Exactly, Bucket. How does the above constitute a timeline? Well, it is … but one with pretty big holes. IMO

    I half-expect a yada, yada, yada in there somewhere.

  12. Big holes, big gap, yada, yada, yada, pretty much does describe that timeline. Of course, where there’s holes and gaps, one would wonder if he made any calls to anyone, went outside and was observed by anyone, or did he just hole up (there’s that hole again) in the house?

  13. timetotellthetruth, if I may indulge myself with another question.

    Can you please tell me why/the reasoning behind FSP refusing free, credentialed/professional SAR help?

  14. Oh, this is true investigative reporting, isn’t it? He takes the word of the suspect he’s investigating, as a former PI and investigative journalist, and prints it up in his true crime book. Wouldn’t you think he’d spend a whole chapter or two picking apart this poor excuse of a timeline to make himself look smarter than the celebrity suspect he seemed to be so gaa gaa over???

  15. rescueapet // October 20, 2008 at 10:16 am

    Big holes, big gap, yada, yada, yada, pretty much does describe that timeline. Of course, where there’s holes and gaps, one would wonder if he made any calls to anyone, went outside and was observed by anyone, or did he just hole up (there’s that hole again) in the house?
    ______________
    You would think there might be a call or two to Stacy’s cell in that time period.

    Maybe just to tell her you were taking the day off and no need to hurry home. Or to remind her of the concert and ask is she planned to come home first or just go there from painting or visiting Grandpa, etc.

  16. You would think there might be a call or two to Stacy’s cell in that time period.

    * * * * *
    Well, ya would, wouldn’t you, if she wasn’t too dead to pick up.

  17. Bucket, he would have had to drive her cell phone over to the airport first (would that be a Sunday errand?) and then call.

    Otherwise her phone would ping and show she was at home when she wasn’t.

  18. Yeah, for someone who knew every move she made and was out of the house, out of his sight, out of his control, it is mighty strange that he didn’t make one phone call to her in those “holes.” I would think that his pattern of calling her on other days, even the few days before, would be a very telling observation. JMHO.

  19. Bucket, to me that would be a normal reaction. To call, I mean.

    I wonder why it didn’t occur to him to call. At any point.

  20. PRNewsChannel.com

    Author of ‘Drew Peterson Exposed’ Releases Audio Tapes of a Suspect’s Unguarded Moments on the One Year Anniversary of Stacy Peterson’s Disappearance

    Having spent 168 hours interviewing Peterson, Derek Armstrong can share some shocking insights and observations; reveals his thoughts on whether or not Peterson is a cold-blooded killer or just a major suspect.

    October 20, 2008 – kunati.com

    Chicago, Ill. and Toronto, Ontario / Even before he did a single interview for the new book Drew Peterson Exposed, author Derek Armstrong insisted that Drew Peterson take a polygraph. He was not the first person to make that request, but he was the only one able to convince Peterson to take one.

    That polygraph, which has become the latest twist in the case of Peterson, a former Chicago-area police sergeant accused in the disappearance of his fourth wife Stacy, has been referenced on NBC’s Today show, CBS’ The Early Show, Nancy Grace and many others.

    Now Armstrong, who tape-recorded his exclusive conversations with Peterson, is available to talk about the lie detector test, discuss his observations of Peterson and will even release audio excerpts from never-before-heard broadcast quality recordings.

    In unguarded moments, in grueling 12-hour sessions, Peterson is heard to say things such as “…post-mortem depression” relating to Stacy and “…She comes up dead or something, they’re going to be looking at me.”

    Author Armstrong says, “I had Drew Peterson’s full cooperation in writing this book—unprecedented access he and his lawyer now regret—and spent more time with him than anyone outside his inner circle,” says Armstrong. “Polygraphs, timelines and now audio tapes of unguarded moments with a suspect in a sensational crime allowed me to form an opinion on some important questions. Is he a killer? A sociopath? Can he fool a polygraph?

    “The discrepancies in the timeline, the deceptive answers in the polygraph and these audio clips are compelling reasons for him to remain the main suspect.

    “I was sort of a fly on the wall and now I’m buzzing.”

    Editor’s note: Derek Armstrong is available for TV, radio and print interviews.

    Drew Peterson Exposed is distributed by Independent Publishers Group.

    • Hardcover: 320 pages
    • 140 photographs and documents reproduced
    • Publisher: http://www.kunati.com, Kunati Inc., (October 1, 2008) Embargoed Title.
    • ISBN-13: 978-1601641878

    About Author Derek Armstrong:
    Derek Armstrong has appeared on numerous talk shows and crime shows as an expert in the Drew and Stacy Peterson case. He is the author of six books.

    Contact: Derek Armstrong
    Phone: 647-273-5331
    Email: exposed@kunati.com
    Web site: kunati.com

    PRNewsChannel.com
    http://www.PRNewsChannel.com/

  21. Sorry, Bash.

    I recall that you were asking about Stacy’s Glock long ago…..to bring you up to speed on that….we still don’t know.

  22. bucketoftea // October 20, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I want to know where Stacy is and when is her killer going to jail.

    I wonder also Bucket, I mean that is the bottom line here right ? I wonder how much longer this GJ is going to take. I wonder what is taking so long, I just have a hard time wrapping myself around the theory that they are waiting for the Hearsay Bill to pass. I wonder if they are just dragging this out in hope of finding SP, or are they still going through all the wiretap stuff. Oh to be a fly on the wall in the GJ room.

  23. About the GJ…. did I read somewhere they are taking on both Kathleen’s ,Stacy’s AND Lisa’s cases/info all at the same time? If so, three cases could take time.

  24. danamck // October 20, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    About the GJ…. did I read somewhere they are taking on both Kathleen’s ,Stacy’s AND Lisa’s cases/info all at the same time? If so, three cases could take time.
    *************

    Yes, that is correct. At least those three that we know of. As to the “investigation of the investigation,” meaning the way Kathleen’s death investigation was handled, don’t know how that’s being handled. Don’t know if that is a GJ matter, or law enforcement investigating law enforcement.

  25. Here’s an excerpt regarding the GJ being the same for all three (4/28/2008):

    …..Brodsky was not as convinced, not even with a special grand jury meeting weekly since November and scheduled through July, and possibly the coming November.

    “It’s also the Lisa Stebic grand jury, and Lisa Stebic has been going a lot longer than Stebic,” Brodsky said of the case of the missing Plainfield mother who disappeared a year ago this coming Wednesday.

    “They’ll just keep going until the case goes cold,” Brodsky said. “And it will eventually, and that’s that.”

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/918766,4_1_JO28_PETERSON_S1.stng

  26. By the way, that misspoken sentence,

    It’s also the Lisa Stebic grand jury, and Lisa Stebic has been going a lot longer than Stebic,”

    was Brodsky’s error, not mine.

  27. Nice dig at Brodsky who was pretending that there’s no case for Drew’s guilt in Kathleen’s homicide.

    “Well, Joel if you talk to your other friends who are attorneys…”

    Also general laughter that Brodsky says he is “shocked at his client’s consistency…”

    Hosey mentioned the same timeline discrepency I brought up here yesterday about when Drew last saw Stacy.

    Armstrong will be with Drew on Dr. Phils.

  28. You need to make your avatar that one with John McCain making that crazed face running after Barack.

    Then say Thank you. Thank you.

    LOL

  29. deartheartdeathhag-my bad-I was thinking rain, trees, mountains and Oregon came to mind-I really meant Washington State. Sorry. 🙂

  30. teneleven // October 20, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    You need to make your avatar that one with John McCain making that crazed face running after Barack.

    Then say Thank you. Thank you.

    LOL

    Great Idea!! I will work on it tomorrow LOL LOL

  31. snyder73 // October 20, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    OMG! You are trintrin?

    Keep it quiet Snyder/ I know what state you live in. LOL

  32. He’s famous I tell ya.

    Sources say he even met his bride through this case.

    So, I guess something good has come from all of this 🙂

  33. Apparently, Derek Armstrong’s interview for the Dr. Phil show was pre-recorded on Friday. I wonder (sorry wonder) if the whole thing was prerecorded or if the Brodsky part will be live.

    I would be great if there was an arrest before it aired…

  34. Um, what’s considered “off-topic” Gatehouse?

    Flying monkeys? My grandmum’s latkes recipe? The presidention election? Montezuma’s revenge? Weird Al lyrics?

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