Your Thread – January 2

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102 thoughts on “Your Thread – January 2

  1. OT – Oh my gosh, how sad. I just saw a report that John Travolta’s son died from circumstances involving a seizure.

  2. rescue, I saw that too & it said he had a seizure & hit his head on the bathtub.

    They must be horribly devistated & in shock over this!

  3. What’s with Drew’s “engagement”? I don’t guess he brought in the New Year with his future in-laws … 😉

  4. Yeah, what’s with his engagement is right. What’s with Glasgow? What’s with the ISP? Time to get a move on and get this thing over with.

    Oh, and before anyone who comes on here to read and spew somewhere else, on other blogs, and says “if they had anything on him, they would have arrested him by now,” I’d like to know what your explanation is for the murderer still not being arrested for killing five beautiful women in a Lane Bryant Store, where they have an eye witness, or a beautiful mother of two, Lisa, who’s been missing before Stacy?????

    Charge the Lane Bryant murderer, charge the responsible man for Lisa Stebic’s disappearance/presumed homicide, charge the man responsible for Kathleen’s homicide and Stacy’s disappearance/presumed homicide.

    They can’t all be a figment of our imaginations! I think it all lies in the hands of the officers/investigators/prosecutors responsible for concluding all of these open-ended cases! What a crock to tell people to be patient, while these murderers are walking free, and some even have vocal supporters.

    Bah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. ‘AVOIDABLE’ DEATH
    EXPERTS: SEIZURE RX MAY HAVE SAVED JETT

    By ADAM NICHOLS and JAMES FANELLI
    Click for photo gallery

    Last updated: 11:05 pm
    January 4, 2009
    Posted: 12:58 am
    January 4, 2009

    The health problems of tragic teen Jett Travolta would not have been properly treated unless his celebrity Scientologist parents had rejected their religion’s theories on medicine, outraged experts said yesterday.

    An autism activist, who spoke on the condition that her name not be revealed, said anti-seizure medication could have controlled the attacks that cops said John Travolta’s son was prone to suffering.

    Police said Jett, 16, had a seizure Friday that led him to fall and hit his head on a bathtub in a Bahamas hotel.

    It is not known if he was taking medication.

    But the church to which his parents are devoted would have discouraged the use of any medication for the seizures that affect 25 percent of teen autistic suffers, said Scientology experts.

    And his parents have repeatedly denied their son could have autism – an illness the church says doesn’t exist.

    “I believe this is something that was totally avoidable,” said the autism activist, who asked not to be identified by name because she says she has a friendship with Travolta’s brother, Joey.

    “There were such clear indications that this kid had autism,” she said. “It’s bothered me for years.

    “The irony is not lost that Joey has committed his life to working with autism and disabilities, and his brother, for religious reasons, would let this happen.

    “Joey tries to be as supportive of his brother’s choices as he can be, but this has really upset me.”

    According to the Church of Scientology, people with disabilities like autism are classified as “degraded” and capable of curing themselves by working harder on the church’s teachings.

    John Travolta and wife Kelly Preston repeatedly denied speculation that their son exhibited autistic symptoms.

    Instead, they blamed their son’s problems on a bout with Kawasaki syndrome as a toddler. The rare disease is characterized by high fever, skin rash and swelling of the lymph nodes. Left untreated the, illness can cause heart and circulation problems later in life.

    Police believe a seizure led to Jett’s fatal fall. The teen was found in a bathroom of the family’s Bahamas vacation home Friday morning with a broken nose and smashed skull, cops said.

    “The Travoltas as Scientologists – and very prominent Scientologists – would never consult a doctor to deal with the treatment of autism,” said Rick Ross, a leading authority on the church.

    “This child lived out his life without ever being evaluated or treated, in my opinion. The sad thing is, perhaps he could have been helped.”

    Jett’s parents claimed to have treated his Kawasaki symptoms with a Scientology-prescribed course of “detoxification” – a regimen of diet and saunas that the church claims is purifying, but which Kawasaki specialist Dr. Adrianna Tremoulet has never heard of.

    “I am not familiar with that therapy,” she said yesterday. Standard treatment includes blood transfusions.

    All medication – including anti-seizure drugs – are discouraged by the church, which believes drugs stockpile in the body over time and damage it, experts on the church said.

    “The failure to give doctor-recommended drugs or medications to Jett might be considered to be a laudable Scientology ethics matter,” said Michael Pattinson, a former senior-level church member.

    Calls for comment from the church were not returned yesterday.

    Initial reports from police that Jett’s body lay undiscovered in the bathroom for nearly 10 hours were challenged yesterday by Travolta’s attorney, Michael McDermott.

    He said the teen was discovered within minutes by a nanny – whose screams brought Travolta sprinting from an upstairs bedroom.

    The movie star tried desperately to resuscitate his son.

    “John did everything he could, but it appears it was too late,” said a detective.

    The Travoltas remained on Grand Bahama Island yesterday, surrounded by more than 50 friends, family and church members who had jetted in during the week for a two-day New Year’s party scheduled to end today.

    The celebrations, including a catamaran cruise, were canceled as the grieving family instead planned Jett’s funeral.

  6. Luvpups — thanks for the interesting article.

    You know, something like this is heart wrenching, no matter how you look at it. I know many of us think that if half of this is true and the teen could have been helped with anti-seizure medication, of course, they should have done so. On the other hand, one can always say that conventional medicine isn’t always the answer either.

    When a child, or an adult, for that matter, is diagnosed with terminal cancer, for example, medical doctors will still put them through torturous chemotherapy and radiation to prolong their lives for mere months — not to cure them. Why?

    So, I guess an argument can be made for both sides. In the case of the Travoltas, they’ll have to live with the death of their son, no matter what happened, and that’s a terrible thing to have to do.

  7. For those following and interested in Derek Armstrong and his attempts to profit from tragedy, I came across this self-penned description on the Book Marketing Network today:

    ” …He also writes book length crime news books as investigative journalist, and currently has two investigative crime news books under deadline with Kunati.

    Oh boy…

  8. rescueapet // January 4, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    Yeah, what’s with his engagement is right. What’s with Glasgow? What’s with the ISP? Time to get a move on and get this thing over with.

    Oh, and before anyone who comes on here to read and spew somewhere else, on other blogs, and says “if they had anything on him, they would have arrested him by now,” I’d like to know what your explanation is for the murderer still not being arrested for killing five beautiful women in a Lane Bryant Store, where they have an eye witness, or a beautiful mother of two, Lisa, who’s been missing before Stacy?????

    Charge the Lane Bryant murderer, charge the responsible man for Lisa Stebic’s disappearance/presumed homicide, charge the man responsible for Kathleen’s homicide and Stacy’s disappearance/presumed homicide.

    They can’t all be a figment of our imaginations! I think it all lies in the hands of the officers/investigators/prosecutors responsible for concluding all of these open-ended cases! What a crock to tell people to be patient, while these murderers are walking free, and some even have vocal supporters.

    Bah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ———————————————————-
    I’ll try to answer the questions in order and best I can. But I think the answers are pretty obvious.

    “Engagement? I believe it is a farce. DP is giggling.

    What’s up with Glascow & ISP? The crew and the foreman can’t build the house – they MIGHT have a little bit of lumber but they seem to have no nails to even begin to hold things together.

    Lane Bryant murderer. Yes there is an eyewitness to the suspect. But a name has to be put with the sketch. Unfortunately, to date, no one has provided a name to go with the face. I thought everyone knew that was the holdup.

    Charges in the Stebic case?

    Charges in the Peterson case?

    Yes BE PATIENT is all they have to offer at this time and that is what it is. Exactly what it is. Because whether anyone likes it or not there is insufficient evidence in these cases to bring charges. Charges that the people who actually do the prosecuting believe, based on actual experience in the field, not gossip and rumor mill stuff, will stick and lead to a successful conviction and solid sentence.

    We just have to (patiently) remember that prosecution is no place for emotions. Just one juror can really put the screws to things – no second chance, can’t be tried twice.

    You make it sound like the SA has all the evidence needed for these charges, prosecution and slam dunk convictions but is just flat-out ignoring it.

    Seriously, all we can do is wait. Whether people want to be patient while waiting and not subject themselves to undue stress or get all worked up while waiting is up to them.

    Myself? I am not going to get worked up at all. I am confident that LE and the SA office would absolutely love to notch their belt with these cases because the whole world is watching.

  9. And I really do urge everyone following this case to take a step back and evaluate what some of the lack of patience and anxiety can do, and maybe even has been doing to you. Any of us hurting ourselves is just unneccessary collateral damage.

    Anyone experiencing:

    overall restlessness?
    the feelings you’re being judged/watched?
    inability to concentrate?
    little or no hunger?
    poor eating/diet habits or schedules?
    high blood pressure?
    cardio vascular diseases?
    shortness of breath?
    smothering sensation?
    pain in the chest?
    choking?
    nausea?
    dizziness?
    unsteady feelings?
    faintness?
    flushed chills?
    sweating?
    little or no sex drive?
    feeling of restlessness?

    I’m serious. I want everyone to take care of themselves.

    Take care all.

  10. As somene with epilepsy, I have to respond to something in the story luvpups posted above re Jett Travolta…
    ******
    “An autism activist, who spoke on the condition that her name not be revealed, said anti-seizure medication could have controlled the attacks that cops said John Travolta’s son was prone to suffering.

    “I believe this is something that was totally avoidable,” said the autism activist, who asked not to be identified by name because she says she has a friendship with Travolta’s brother, Joey. ”
    *******
    Although there have been huge advances in drugs for treatment of seizures, there is no guarantee they can be controlled. Believe me.
    Such statements can be very hurtful to people trying everything to achieve that control and being unable to reach it. Again, please believe me.

    The idea of someone who has no actual information about the boy’s treatment or current health status stating his death was “totally avoidable” is cruel in the extreme. And, like so many blanket statements by self-proclaimed experts, more about self-aggrandizing than enlightening, I’m afriad.

  11. Yipes! That post @ 3:57 was a little sharp, personal and emotional, eh? Sorry. One of those gut responses…

  12. “Because whether anyone likes it or not there is insufficient evidence in these cases to bring charges.”

    **************

    WITM – and you KNOW this how?

  13. Oh, Rescue. They don’t know. lol

    We know there may be charges that could be brought as they stand, ie the notarial fraud, but criminal/political patronage is alive and well in Illinois, and could well account for any amount of delays. Bit of untangling involved. DP had a long time to build his network in the first place.

  14. Bucket – ah, that’s it. Thanks for clarifying that. 😉

    Now, if you could give me some advice about:

    poor eating/diet habits or schedules

    maybe I could get that New Year’s Resolution going, heh?

  15. That may seem to be some quick, sharp retort but this isn’t rocket science folks.

    Again, if they had the sufficient evidence they would have to charge. That is the law and their duty.

    So, as you are asking how people know things – how is it that you seem to KNOW that they do have sufficient evidence and are doing nothing with it?

  16. bucketoftea // January 5, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Oh, Rescue. They don’t know. lol

    We know there may be charges that could be brought as they stand, ie the notarial fraud, but criminal/political patronage is alive and well in Illinois, and could well account for any amount of delays. Bit of untangling involved. DP had a long time to build his network in the first place.

    _________________________________

    So Drew Peterson is some sort of “man behind the curtain” holding control over not only the SA’s office but also ISP who at one time had DP out one of their undercover officers?

    Yep. It’s all just a big smoke and mirror show to protect Drew Peterson, the man who holds the secrets and keys to Will county.

  17. Rescue I can offer up this advice for what I suspect is your New Year’s resolution (like many of us!) to eat better.

    Shop around the outside of the store aisles! Fruit, vegetables, meat, dairy, bread and get out. There isn’t anything good to eat in the aisles.

    Drink lots of water. Feel hungry? Half a bottle of water will make the hunger go away most times.

    Lets all wish each other luck on this one.

  18. Coffee, when someone appears from nowhere to comment publicly , claims to know the family and calls themselves an “autism activist” more than one red flag goes up.

    It was cruel and ignorant of that person to state that the boy’s death was “totally avoidable”, but we’ve seen before that people who think they have something to gain will say or do anything to insert themselves into another family’s tragedy.

    And that’s just my opinion, like most of what we post here on these blogs. If I don’t always state that outright I hope everyone understands that it’s implied.

  19. “I really do urge everyone following this case to take a step back …”

    Is this advice for everyone, or does it just include those other than the one giving it out?

  20. WITM

    Is it the law that charges must be made before investigators get to the actual bottom of things to find the whole truth?

  21. It seems to me that even after an individual is charged, the investigating and witness list keeps on growing even during trial. There always might be the possibility that new and inclusive evidence may be found out. Or, on the other hand, maybe something discovered that would exculpate a charged individual.

    Since I’ve not seen anything yet that includes anything that exculpates Drew Peterson in any of the current misgivings he’s being chased down with, I’ll assume that the matters are so intricate and complicated, all of the thinking heads need to sit down and put it all together.

  22. Maybe a little off topic but do you think Amazon has a category for “investigative crime news books“?

    According to Armstrong, this is what he’s currently working on. He won’t stop until he’s tops in the ICNB genre! 😉

  23. investigative crime news books

    See, hook up with the master of deceit and make money doing it. How many are on the Dream Team now??????

  24. OOOh clever. create a new genre. lol that is comprised of 3 big search words. BTW I think he’s stalking me. lol I’ve had another one of those Amazon emails, this time trying to sell me his poxy blogertize because I bought Joe Hosey’s book.

  25. decafoccity – Don’t feel bad or apologize for your post. I know people with epilepsy and autism and I can tell you one thing for certain – NEITHER of these conditions can be totally controlled by any medication available. Statements to the contrary are just poppycock!

    Most professionals out there will NEVER make such a rash comment about someone that is NOT their patient nor ever has been. This person was not even a DOCTOR – just an ACTIVST so WTF is that reporter even using their anonymous comment for anyway?? And they are an autism activist NOT a seizure activist so why even talk to or quote from them anyway??

    These idiots need to let the Travolta’s grieve right now and if something is turned up in the autopsy that points to him not getting any treatment at all for his condition then it will be investigated. I’m not into Scientology or anything but this seems to be another case of fearmongering.

  26. I mean, to assume that you’d be interested in Armstrong’s bloggy book because you bought Hosey’s “investigative crime news book”.

    BTW, I saw that his publishing house is putting their top fiction seller out-of-print (I assume so they can concentrate more on Derek’s stuff). Man, if I were that author I’d be steamed – especially after all the self-promotion that Kunati demands from their authors.

  27. rescueapet // January 5, 2009 at 10:45 am

    “I really do urge everyone following this case to take a step back …”

    Is this advice for everyone, or does it just include those other than the one giving it out?

    _________________________________

    No one specificly. We each have to look at ourselves.

    No mas

  28. facsmiley // January 5, 2009 at 10:45 am

    WITM, you should write an advice column. You’re just full of handy tips!

    _______________________________

    Tell me it isn’t true.

  29. bucketoftea // January 5, 2009 at 10:48 am

    WITM

    Is it the law that charges must be made before investigators get to the actual bottom of things to find the whole truth?

    _________________________________

    I guess I should say it is their sworn duty. In a case like murder, if you have the dirt to prove it you are sworn to go with it. Waiting until you can prove and add something like fraud while a murder is free isn’t acceptable.

  30. Oh gosh, looks like “Blogertize” is an existant Indian company that sells pixel advertising to bloggers.

    Silly Derek – he probably should have checked that out before he titled his book. I’ll bet that company is pleased to be getting all this free marketing!

  31. How about the trying to hide the exculpating evidence in the Fox case by Will County Sheriffs Investigators?

    Those detectives should be in jail themselves.

  32. How about what happened in the first case, Savio? What would one call that? Hiding evidence, ineptness, turning a blind eye, professional courtesy?

    Works both ways – the mirror is two-sided.

  33. Anthony Attorney Seeks Clues, Releases Tip Line Number
    Remains Of Casey Anthony’s Daughter Found In December

    POSTED: Monday, January 5, 2009
    UPDATED: 12:13 pm EST January 5, 2009

    ORLANDO, Fla. — The attorney for Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, released a tip line phone number on Monday, hoping to gain information about the time the girl disappeared until her remains were discovered.

    The number to the new information line released by Jose Baez is 407-442-2814.

    Baez said he’s interested in receiving information, photographs and video from the time Caylee — who was 2 years old when she was reported missing — was last seen in mid-June until her remains were found last month by a utility worker in a wooded area near the girl’s grandparents’ home in Orange County.

    Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

    Source: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18413526/detail.html

    ****

    Ummm. OK – I must be very fiesty today.

    As I read this article, I’m thinking WTF is wrong with this picture?? There have been tip lines available since the day that Cindy reported Caylee missing. WTF does Baez think having a new tip line will do differently??

    Mmmm – I called in the first tip to the line. It was ASK YOUR FREAKING CLIENT WTF HAPPENED TO HER BABY! They haven’t called me back yet…

  34. Savio case went pretty much exactly as planned by somebody I think.

    It appeared to just be a tragic accident and no one looked any further – until now.

    There was no evidence hidden – none was looked for nor taken.

    Blind eye? IDK but blinders? Maybe.

    Professional courtesy? I don’t think that extends to murder in lil ol Bolingbrook – but you never know.

  35. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that our law enforcement and legal systems are not perfect. Sometimes guilty people get away and sometimes innocent people get convicted of a crime they did not commit.

    The way that I see it is that no matter how much we mortals screw up here on earth – true justice is still served in the afterlife.

    If you don’t believe – that is all good – but please don’t deprive me of this thought as it is the best one I have to protect myself from being upset at the disturbing fact that so many murders and other crimes are never solved and that some good people are wrongly prosecuted and punished.

  36. TAI you are so right. There are so many, many murders that go unsolved. It is staggering.

    But what do you mean by “we mortals”?

    JJ

    There is but one judge.

  37. There have been tip lines available since the day that Cindy reported Caylee missing. WTF does Baez think having a new tip line will do differently??

    **************

    It’s called ~ let’s plant ideas and doubt out there because now that our sightings and tips are crapola, we need to come up with a new gimmick.

    Yeah, this from Jose Baez – the hugging, touchy-feely lawyer who can’t keep his hands off his client and has to be told to knock it off.

  38. I like to go along the lines of Poe or maybe even a Twilight Zone episode or two and imagine that the knowledge of the crime must haunt the guilty on a daily (or nightly) basis.

    Although I suppose a true monster could feel no remorse…

  39. BTW – I believe Drew is expected to become a grandfather soon (in January), if not already.

    Good. At least his future wife will have someone to play with.

    🙂

  40. TAI – Jose Baez – what a guy. Maybe this will answer your questions about what a new tip line will do. Well, er, it won’t, but it sure shows Jose has an extreme touchy-feely fondness for his boob of a client.
    ************

    Jose Baez Repeatedly Told To Stop Touching Casey During Jail Visits

    Friday, October 31, 2008 – updated: 1:44 pm EDT October 31, 2008
    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — In the past two weeks Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez has visited her at the jail, seven out of 14 days.

    Eyewitness News has discovered that on at least two occasions jail staff had to step in and Baez was warned repeatedly about hugging Casey during their visits.

    A jail report states: “The inmate’s attorney was observed hugging inmate and was advised that physical contact was prohibited.”

    A week later, another report stated: “Baez again observed hugging his client.”

    The room Baez and Anthony meet in is very small and typically there is a desk and two chairs.

    Sources told Eyewitness News that on one occasion, Anthony was sitting and Baez was very close to her face. A corrections officer had to go into the room to separate them.

    “Orange County jail policy forbids any kind of touching between visitors and inmates. Mr. Baez was cooperative and agreed not to repeat the behavior. Mr. Baez has always been professional and cooperative in his interactions with the Orange County Corrections Department,” jail spokesman Alan Moore said in a statement.

    Eyewitness News confronted Jose Baez about the situation.

    “I have no comment,” he said.

    Eyewitness news’ legal analyst Bill Schaeffer said it’s unusual that an attorney would ever touch a client.

    “The more experience you are in handling these type of clients or situation, the less likely you are to place yourself in a situation that could be regarded as a compromising situation,” said Schaeffer.

    When Casey was out on bond, there were several times that she would spend six hours a day at Baez’s office including Saturdays. There’s nothing criminal about having a relationship with a client, but Schaeffer said there are ethical issues.

    “The appellate court could find that relationship overstepped the bounds of attorney client relationship and affected that performance and order a new trial,” he said.

    There was no evidence that Baez and Casey were actually having a relationship.

    The reason touching isn’t allowed at the jail is because contraband items could be passed. Baez told jail officials that he didn’t know the rules, and wouldn’t do it again.

  41. OK, this is just cute – not topical in any way (unless you can tie in the engagement angle). Please scroll by if you don’t want to read a cute story:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7811686.stm

    Child elopers’ Africa plan foiled

    Two German children – aged five and six – have been stopped by police from eloping to Africa to tie the knot in the sun, reports say.

    The budding lovebirds, identified as Mika and Anna-Lena, packed bathing costumes, sunglasses and a lilo and headed for the airport.

    They even had the presence of mind to invite along an official witness – Anna-Lena’s seven-year-old sister.

    The three got as far as Hanover railway station before police intervened.

    The young couple were “very much in love” and had decided to get married in Africa “where it is warm”, police spokesman Holger Jureczko told the AFP news agency.

    Sun-seekers

    The idea for the getaway wedding was born as the children’s families celebrated New Year’s eve together and Mika regaled the two girls with stories of a recent holiday to Italy.

    The following morning, as their parents slept, the intrepid trio walked 1km (0.6 miles) to the local tram station at Langenhagen, where they hopped aboard a tram for Hanover central station.

    But the group aroused the suspicion of a guard as they waited for a train to the airport, and police were called in.

    Officers persuaded the children they would not get far without tickets and money, but consoled them with a free tour of the police station, where they were shortly picked up by relieved parents.

    Although any marriage plans have been put on hold for now, police did not altogether rule out the possibility of an African wedding.

    “They can still put their plan into action at a later date,” AFP quoted the spokesman as saying.

  42. rescueapet // January 5, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Now, on the other hand, Joel merely rides Harley’s with Drew and travels to Florida with him a lot.

    ****

    Dear Lord – Please get rid of the picture I now have in my head of prison guards having to break Joel and Drew apart from embracing too much and the reminder of the big wet one Drew planted on Joel after the gun charge was dismissed. Both visions are just too icky and creepy!

  43. Twitter alert – Twitter was hacked into by someone using the same utilities that the support team uses to change people’s passwords. Some big names like Obama, Brittney Spears, and Fox were hacked into and fake messages were sent out.

    Also – seems that there was some time that the Twitter home page was hijacked by a phishing scam which had people logging into a fake home page where they could have accessed login information:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/05/twitter.hacked/index.html

  44. I read this on some random blog. It cracked me up!

    “I had a dream the other night that Drew Peterson showed up at my doorstep to intimidate me for poking fun at him in the blog. He entered my apartment and sat on my couch and asked to watch “The Little Mermaid” on VHS. While it was on, he just stared at me the whole time and said sarcastically, “This video has gotten me through some real tough times.” And then he smirked at me. It was as uncomfortable a dream as I’ve ever had.”

  45. Don’t screw up my image of The Little Mermaid VHS! That video saved me and my hubby during a move because my oldest daughter (who was 2 at the time) watched that thing over and over and over while we packed and unpacked everything!

  46. The part that really spooked me was how the dogs were all quiet (you didn’t know they were even there) and then all of a sudden one of them seemed to get antsy and excited in the car just a bit after turning down that road.

    God – I wish they had found her back then. Maybe there would have been more evidence that could have explained how she died.

  47. Ithinkaboutit2 // January 5, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Twitter alert – Twitter was hacked into by someone using the same utilities that the support team uses to change people’s passwords. Some big names like Obama, Brittney Spears, and Fox were hacked into and fake messages were sent out.

    Also – seems that there was some time that the Twitter home page was hijacked by a phishing scam which had people logging into a fake home page where they could have accessed login information:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/01/05/twitter.hacked/index.html

    Glenn Selig might want to reconsider joining Twitter.

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1112&z=4

    Florida PR Firm Launches Twitter Page to Provide Breaking News Updates on Drew Peterson, Other Clients

  48. I’ve got another tip for Baez…

    SH*T OR GET OFF THE POT ON THE SECOND AUTOPSY OF THIS POOR BABY’S REMAINS!

    IT IS FURTHER CRUELTY TO HER TINY, INNOCENT, ANGELIC SOUL TO DRAG YOUR A** ON THE SECOND AUTOPSY (AFTER MAKING SUCH A FUSS) AND PREVENTING HER FROM BEING PROPERLY LAID TO REST.

  49. Looks like Selig needs work…

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1116&z=4

    Publicist Specializes in Representing High Profile Clients at the Center of National News Stories

    From the Drew Peterson saga to the Casey Anthony investigation, newsman-turned-publicist Glenn Selig is again at the center of high profile criminal cases.
    thepublicityagency.com – January 07, 2009

    (PRNewsChannel) / Tampa, Fla. /
    Whether it’s the Drew Peterson case developing near Chicago or the Casey Anthony drama unfolding in Orlando, the publicity/PR firm The Publicity Agency and its founder/publicist are involved in two of today’s biggest national crime stories.

    “As a PR person who specializes in dealing with high profile people in high profile criminal cases you can’t ask for more,” says Glenn Selig, founder of The Publicity Agency. “This is like covering the big story as a reporter. These are the very cases you want to be associated with.”

    Selig says he thrives in that type of environment, in part because of his 20 year background in TV news. Selig is an award-winning former major city news reporter and anchor who hung up his microphone in favor of defending people in the court of public opinion.

    He says people ask him how he can represent clients who almost everyone believes are guilty and literally getting away with murder or some other crime.

    “The media may love to act as judge and jury but I truly believe that people are innocent until proven guilty and ought to be treated as such,” says Selig. “We do everything we can to make sure our clients get a fair shake by the media. It’s what is supposed to happen in this country but often doesn’t without our help.”

    He and the Agency represent Drew Peterson, the former Bolingbrook, Ill. police sergeant implicated in the death of his third wife and in the disappearance of his current wife, Stacy Peterson. Selig also has Peterson’s criminal defense attorney Joel Brodsky as a client.

    CNN’s Nancy Grace dubbed Selig a “PR Guru” because of his impact in the Drew Peterson case.

    Selig is well known by national news organizations, such is NBC’s ‘Today’ and ABC’s ‘Good Morning America,’ because of his news background, his professionalism and his integrity. Selig says he has managed to earn respect from the very news organizations that target his clients.

    “They have a job to do and so do I, but they know my background and that helps,” says Selig. “Believe it or not there are filmmakers and TV producers who call temselves ‘spokespeople’ and get involved in high profile criminal cases just to make a movie or for some other ulterior motive. These people send out press releases with grammatical and spelling errors. Give me a break. That is not who we are or what we’re about. Trust me when I say there is a big difference.”

    Fighting Back in a High Profile Criminal Case
    Selig says when a person becomes the focus of the national news media, the media takes over and drive the story. As a result, the target feels under siege.

    He says the media surround your house. They stake out cameras at your office. Your every step and every move is monitored and critiqued on national newscasts and national cable outlets, Selig adds.

    “What we do is wrestle back some of that control for clients and act a bridge between our clients, their attorneys. We bring some order to an otherwise chaotic, out-of-control situation,” says Selig. “The media are aggressive and want the story. Most of them will do what it takes to get it.”

    Selig says he and his Agency work closely with criminal defense attorneys in high-profile cases, offering advice to them as well in how to deal with the news media and how to shape a message.

    “If the case goes to criminal court that pool of jurors is picked from the court of public opinion so it’s critical to be concerned about public opinion–in my opinion,” says Selig. “Even lawyers adept in the courtroom may need help in the court of public opinion.”

    The Casey Anthony Case
    Selig and his Agency are not afraid of controversy.

    Selig also has been involved in the Casey Anthony case, playing a behind-the-scenes consulting role to Anthony’s lead defense attorney Jose Baez.

    Casey Anthony, 22, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. Last month, Caylee’s remains were found in the woods less than a mile from Caylee’s grandparents where Casey Anthony and Caylee were living.

    Selig would not reveal what he has discussed with Baez, the advice he’s given or his first-hand impressions of Baez’s client, Casey Anthony.

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss that,” says Selig.

    Selig says he and his firm always look for interesting headline-making news events to be involved with.

    “When the next big news story happens–big crime story or otherwise–we hope to be involved with it and look forward to helping our client or clients deal with the media no matter where in the country they are,” says Selig.

  50. “I don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss that,” says Selig.

    Who’s he trying to kid? This is his press release.

    Is he schizophrenic?

  51. OK – What is with these people writing for their own websites about themselves in the third person? It is like that “Jimmy” episode on Seinfeld!

    And as far as Nancy Grace calling Selig a PR guru – my recollection was that it was said in a derogatory manner rather than as a compliment to him. I have to find that video today or a transcript to refresh my memory though.

  52. decafoccity, don’t apologize for your reaction to the “avoidable” article.

    I just posted it, didn’t write it or agree with it, but wanted to show what is out there on this case!

    We have a nephew with something similar or maybe even the same & he has been on meds for 25 years now & he still has seizures. He has never been diagnosed as epileptic, only as “seizure prone”!

    He has been on so many & so strong, that the dr. once told the parents that he was at the toxic stage from meds.

    His are controlled somewhat, but emotional changes still bring about seizures in him, while on the meds continually!

  53. If Selig does as good a job for the Anthony family as he does for Peterson, there’s nothing to worry about.

    Peterson’s about the most hated suspect there is right now, and so is Anthony. The only difference is that Selig’s agency has been promoting Drew’s pathetic life to help bury him even deeper in scorn. So, give him some time, and maybe he can help do the same for Anthony. 😉

  54. luvpups –
    Thanks for letting me off the hook. 😉 I’d meant to include in my post that I understood you were sharing info & my response was never intended for you. Sorry I wasn’t more clear and thanks for sharing; I always appreciate reading the news.
    Seizure disorders are each unique, but I certainly relate to your nephew. I’ve gone toxic on meds when dosages were pushed to control seizures and it can be bad. Breakthrough seizures just stink out loud. However, I will say that having to “depend upon the kindness of strangers” from time to time, while not the way I would ever have chosen, has allowed me to see some of the best of human nature and I always love that.
    Happy New Year!

  55. facsmiley // January 7, 2009 at 7:27 am

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss that,” says Selig.
    Who’s he trying to kid? This is his press release.
    Is he schizophrenic?
    ********
    Hmm… I’d never thought of him as schizophrenic. I was leaning towards unethical, amoral, famewhore slime.

  56. Hi Facs. I guess we could both be right. 🙂
    Rather than make a mistake and offend though, I think I’ll stick w. FS for now.

  57. And again he compares himself to other less-qualified people saying:

    …These people send out press releases with grammatical and spelling errors.

    And in the next paragraph he writes:

    …the media takes over and drive the story.

    So which is it, plural or singular? It can’t be both.

  58. Facs – good one! I hope you emailed the twit and pointed that out to him. Geesh. Give it a break already, Selig!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. Where does Selig benefit from trying to do postitive PR for these high-profile suspects? His “Mr. Mom” package for Drew failed so miserably that he pulled it from his web site and you can’t even find it online anymore. I’d love to know what “tips” he provided to Casey Anthony’s representation. Could he have taken a similar approach and recommend that she be promoted on the basis of her “mothering” skills? Good God.

    Honestly, there are some people that no amount of PR is going to help and some situations where press coverage is not the answer. Sometimes its in your best interest to allow yourself to quietly disappear from the media. Case in point: Craig Stebic.

    Of course, if your top priority is to make sure your receive exposure by latching yourself onto a high profile case, to see your own face on TV, or to write and market a book, Selig probably is doing the right thing…for himself though – not his clients.

  60. I think you’ve got Selig’s number exactly right, Facs.

    Try to recall another time you’ve known the Actual Name of the PR agent for the likes of these (for crying out loud! how can there BE such a thing?!?). Their lawyers – natch – and, on occasion, even their bounty hunters, but PR agents? Mssr. FS mentions his own name just about as often as his clients.

    IMHO, his agenda’s pretty obvious.

  61. I was sooooo wrong about Selig. I thought for sure he’d get his fill of Drew Peterson and back off, give him the boot, drop him like a hot potato. Every thing positive Selig puts out there about him, Peterson turns around and does the opposite thing, or brings on even more adverse publicity.

    I guess money talks and bull**** walks. At least in the case of Selig. What a famewhore (thank you, coffee) indeed.

  62. On second thought, after reading my post above, I don’t know what I was thinking when I said “every thing positive Selig puts out there…”

    There’s nothing positive about the suspect. I mean everything he tries to spin in the positive direction about Peterson brings on even more adverse publicity.

  63. “Believe it or not there are filmmakers and TV producers who call themselves ‘spokespeople’ and get involved in high profile criminal cases just to make a movie or for some other ulterior motive. These people send out press releases with grammatical and spelling errors. Give me a break. That is not who we are or what we’re about. Trust me when I say there is a big difference.”
    ***************

    Notice how he conveniently leaves out “authors” in this press release. Authors who get involved in criminal cases just to make a movie or for some other ulterior motive. These people send out press releases with grammatical and spelling errors.

    Author by the name of Derek Armstrong – does that sound familiar? Author who uses Selig to put out his own press releases about Drew Peterson.

    Talk about hypocrite. Integrity? What a joke.

  64. Armstrong may not call himself a “spokesperson” but masquerading as a “correspondent” when he writes for his own crime blog, or referring to himself as an author of “investigative crime news books” is just as phony and laughable.

  65. From the end of Selick’s press release
    * * *
    Journalist and Media Inquiries:
    If you’re writing a story about PRNewsChannel and need us to comment, please contact ThePublicityAgency.com.

    * * * *
    lol This is where they disappear up their own when Armstrong requests a comment.

  66. I think they still have the same GJ. If it had changed over we would have heard about it as a victory from Drew’s defense team with lots of typos on the press release from his PR guy…

  67. OK – I’m really ticked off right now. Fuming to be more precise. If this information below is true there are several people other there that let a little, innocent child rot out in the woods like trash and they absolutely, positively should be charged with obstruction of justice or something! How can these people live with themselves??? How???

    **
    P.I. Says Partner Knew Where Caylee Anthony’s Body Was
    Wednesday, January 7, 2009 – updated: 6:08 pm EST January 7, 2009

    ORLANDO, Fla. — A blockbuster development unfolded Wednesday in the Casey Anthony case. A private investigator, who worked with George and Cindy Anthony, just told Eyewitness News his partner knew where Caylee’s body was and their search for it was on camera.
    ***

    Full Story and Video: http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html

  68. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all and may 2009 bring the answers we are anticipating !!

    Funny how both Selig and Armstrong always feel the need to blow their own trumpet re their professionalism and command of the English language in child like statements containing grammar and spelling errors !

    It seems they don’t know themselves very well !

  69. Further to all the scabs and vermin above:

    Hoover, the PI with the videotape, took it to wtftv’s legal analyst to “facilitate and speed up the handing over to investigators”

    Yeah, right.

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