Your Thread – January 15

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  1. makes more sense with a comma, sorry

    A cad reprehension, sirens twit.

    And another version which seems to mention Sells-ick:

    A cad heresies newsprint intro. LOL

  2. Oops…I forgot that was the original one you had done! I did Joel, Drew, Derek etc…then came full circle.

    😳

  3. Good Evening All,

    As we all know, tomorrow is Thursday and hopefully the GJ meets and we get some news on one of these cases, Kathleen & Stacy deserve it!

    Lisa Stebic deserves it as well.

  4. Hi Bucket, Facs, Whitey!

    OK – I can’t resist word games… you guys realize DP is Rodent Spewer?

    (see why I love word games?!?)

  5. OK, I just ran Facsmiley through there.
    Umm, here are a few winners.

    Face Slimy
    As Mice Fly
    Fecal Is My

    I don’t want to play anymore! Stupid Game! 😦

    LOL!

  6. Hi Rescue – Yup, I’m back in the routine and back on full-leaded coffee. 🙂

    I had a really great, long visit with my family. :-)!

    Hope everyone had great holidays!!

  7. I just want to say I feel very sorry for Mr. Ernie Raines as it must be a horrible situation to be in, but I’m sure everyone is keeping an eye on that house in Bolingbrook and Drew is not flying under the radar anymore, like he did with Stacy and Kathleen…….

  8. bucketoftea // January 14, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    “They’re still up. My kids have a right to their memories.”

    ****

    I’d like to argue that they actually have a right to have their moms alive and in their lives not just their memories.

  9. Recipe For Hope, Stacy Peterson

    Are you sick and tired of seeing the shenanigans of Drew Peterson and his merry band of pranksters constantly in the news and on your TV? Have you had about enough of this constant barrage of disrespect for the mothers of his children? What can you do about it? What can you do to bring back the respect and dignity to this three ring circus?

    There is a group of people on the internet that are fighting to do just that.

    This group would like to see the dignity and respect for Stacy Peterson and Kathleen Savio be restored, not only on the internet, but in mainstream media as well.

    If Stacy or Kathleen had reached out to a domestic violence organization, maybe they would be here today to relate their stories.

    This group would like to raise money to bolster the efforts of local domestic violence organizations and the way they would like to do that is publish a cookbook.

    Not just any ordinary cookbook, but a cookbook with recipes along with safety tips for women caught in this cycle of abuse. Are you a survivor of violence, or is someone you know caught in an abusive relationship. Some of these tips you offer could save someone’s life.

    This is one of the easiest, no cost to you, things you can do! Just write out your favorite recipe, add your name and city, if you like, and email it to:

    recipesforstacy@gmail.com

    Oh! One more thing!!…Please, please include any safety tips for that someone you know who is looking to safely get out of the cycle of abuse! These valuable tips will be included in the cookbook in recipe form…..sort of like 1oz. of prevention, 1C safety, stir in a pinch of caution and don’t let it boil over!

    All of the printing costs are donated and ALL proceeds will go to an organization that helps women safely survive!

    DO IT TODAY!

  10. Thursday, January 15, 2009
    Stacy Peterson Book:”Recipe For Hope”

    Drew Peterson continues to catch the attention of the media and maybe all his on air experience will land him a job as the new spokesperson or press agent to inmates when he moves to his new home.

    One minute Peterson claims his children’s mother ran off with a man, the next he is all over Internet dating sites looking for women, like a used car salesman. And now, this cowardly dickless wonder, is engaged, with the girfriend and her two small children living in a crime scene!

    Have you had about enough of this constant barrage of disrespect for the women and murdered mother(s) of his 4 children? Are you interested in doing something about this bozo and his camp of marshmallow roasters?

    There is a group of business professionals, media and violence awareness groups who have joined together bringing dignity and respect for Stacy Peterson and Kathleen Savio. Sadly, both these women did not stand a chance against in my opinion, as an expert in the area of police perpetrated-domestic homicide. This newly formed entity will raise money to bolster the efforts of numerous domestic violence organizations. How you ask? It’s called “Receipe For Hope”.

    This is no plain, ordinary cookbook. But, a cookbook with recipes along with safety tips for women caught in this cycle of abuse. Here’s how you can help.

    Are you a survivor of an abusive relationship? Do you assist a friend or a relative in leaving their violent environment, safely? How about contributing your safety tips for the book? You can save someone’s life. Or in memory of someone who was murdered, what tip can you offer in their memory? Participation for the cookbook is easy. All you need is a computer to enter.

    Write out your favorite recipe, add your name and city, if you like, and email it to: recipesforstacy@gmail.com Oh! One more thing!!…Please, please include any safety tips for that someone you know who is looking to safely get out of the cycle of abuse! These valuable tips will be included in the cookbook in recipe form…..sort of like 1oz. of prevention, 1C safety, stir in a pinch of caution and don’t let it boil over!

    All of the printing costs have been generously donated this project and ALL proceeds will go to organization’s provding safety and direction for those in violent relationships!

    http://www.murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/

  11. Good Morning All,

    Hope you are all staying warm. It’s minus 13 here for temp and wind chill brings down to minus 20.

    Hope the cold doesn’t stop the GJ from meeting today.

  12. Posted: Thursday, 15 January 2009 6:53AM

    ‘Harmonious Bliss’ In The Peterson Home

    Steve Miller Reporting

    COMMENT ON THIS STORY

    CHICAGO (WBBM) – 55-year-old Drew Peterson tells Newsradio 780 that since his 24-year-old girlfriend and fiancee Christina Raines has moved in, there is “a harmonious bliss at the Peterson home.”

    Drew Peterson–his third wife dead under suspicious circumstances and his fourth wife missing–says Raines isn’t bothered by the thought that Peterson might be responsible for what happened to two previous wives.

    “I think early on it did, but after she got to know me, she looks at me and she says no way. No way.”

    WBBM: Meaning “no way” what?

    “That I was responsible for either of these things.”

    Peterson says he’s “lucky in cards, lucky in love.”

    “We have a harmonious bliss at the Peterson home.”

    Peterson lives in Bolingbrook where he formerly worked as a police sergeant.

    Peterson says Christina is “scared to death… of the media” and not doing interviews, for now.

    What would she say in an interview?

    “I am the most beautiful man she’s ever met in her life.”

    Contents of this site are Copyright 2009 by WBBM.

  13. From the radio interview I also understood Drew to say Christina asked him to marry her (!!) and that he hasn’t bought her an engagement ring yet (!!)

  14. Looks like Drew found a winner to let him spew more BS on the air and probably got paid to do so. Of course, the guy contradicts what he has said on the LKL show (and others) that he is just an unlucky guy. Here he says he’s lucky in cards and lucky in love. He doesn’t seem to know wtf love is. He seems to thinks it’s that feeling you get when his pants feel tighter.

  15. DP says, her last two relationships were abusive.
    Women who have been in abusive relationships, always pick another abusive partner. She sure has, picked the number one culprit.

  16. This is about as absolutely out-of-control, insane as it gets.

    Somebody might want to let her know that Peterson signed over substantial amounts of money to his son, Stephen, so that might dry up the money pool she thinks she’s getting. The house – she can’t get her hands on that because, LOL, even loser can’t sell it without jumping through legal hoops! That $6,000/month pension – if he doesn’t put her name down as the beneficiary, buh bye – ain’t gonna see a penny. Unless, of course, Peterson sells his kids’ rights to it down the tubes and lets a 23 year old nut case have it instead. Naw, I’d guess that Stephen will get that squared away real soon.

    So, Chrissy Raines’ enchanted life isn’t looking so great financially. Of course, she DID win the Drew lottery. Oops.

  17. I guess, speaking for myself, we shouldn’t complain about any of this recent news. It all does show how absolutely insane Peterson really is.

    He’s funny and happy, isn’t he, when he’s preying on some weak, vulnerable woman. He’s not so King Kong when someone wants to rearrange his puss for him. Remember, the coward only knows how to put up his dukes by saying “someone call 911. Someone call 911.”

    Coward, sleeze, pathetic. He’ll do well in prison.

  18. Remember that Harvey cop, Stalllworth, who was arrested for being a crooked cop and selling out his badge? Well, guess what? He’s using Peterson’s rule book for trying to get out of his mess and get his job back, LOL. He was doing his “own undercover operation.”

    “……..He provided the Chicago Sun-Times with police reports that he says prove his innocence by showing that he and a partner were documenting their own investigation months before the FBI arrested Stallworth on Nov. 19.

    But a federal grand jury last month indicted Stallworth on charges of drug conspiracy as well as filing fake police reports.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1379539,CST-NWS-undercover15.article

  19. Chrissy is “scared to death” of the media and that is why she is not doing interviews yet, but is not “scared to death” of our boy. If she isn’t concerned about his past then the media should be a piece of cake….

  20. STEVE MILLER INTERVIEWS DREW PETERSON FOR WBBM – JANUARY 15, 2009

    Miller: Just for the record. Just give me your name.

    PETERSON: Drew Peterson.

    MILLER: OK. That sounds good. Well, tell me, how’s everything going with your new life, I guess — with Christina moved in.

    PETERSON: We have a harmonious bliss at the Peterson home.

    MILLER: OK.

    PETERSON: We got, uh, two new kids — and they’re four and five years old and they’re meshing well with my kids.

    MILLER: That’s great. That’s great. Now there was some talk that you might be moving to a bigger place or something?

    PETERSON: You make plans for the future and that varies and that changes. As of right now we’re settling into our home. It’s like, whenever you get two new families meshed together it’s like a box of baseball cards and you just rattle everybody into place ’til it fits.

    MILLER: Now I have to ask you, with all the media attention was she a little frightened or scared off?

    PETERSON: Oh yeah. Any young girl that’s thrown into this all of a sudden — it’s just a very scary thing and at one particular time it scared her off altogether but subsequently we got back together and decided to be together.

    MILLER: What particular time was that?

    PETERSON: This was during the month — over a month’s period.

    MILLER: OK. But things are OK. What about marriage plans?

    PETERSON: Well, if you get engaged to someone that’s normally an indication, that’s the first step to heading that way so we’ll see how it goes.

    MILLER: Any — have you filed for divorce yet?

    PETERSON: No, that’s something going to be in the hands of my legal team and when they decide that it’s time to do that, then we’ll do that.

    MILLER: I heard a tip, Drew that you were at Jerrod jewelry store in Bolingbrook on New Year’s Eve. Any truth to that?

    PETERSON: Yes, I was. I was there and I was buying Christmas gifts for people.

    MILLER: Anything for Chrissy?

    PETERSON: Yes, actually. A pair of earrings.

    MILLER: You’ve given her a ring though, an engagement ring, right?

    PETERSON: No, I haven’t. Not as of yet. I have a friend that’s a jeweler and we’ll cross that bridge when the time comes.

    MILLER: So, just clarify it. You’ve asked her to marry you though, right?

    PETERSON: Actually, she’s asked me and I’ve asked her and we’ve basically agreed that down the road we will get together and marry.

    MILLER: When might that be, “down the road”?

    PETERSON: I would have to see how life folds out. No definite plans or any date set or anything.

    MILLER: OK. Is she still a little bit scared because of all the media attention and because, well frankly, all the publicity about you?

    PETERSON: Scared to death. She’s not scared of me. She’s very comfortable in our home and she’s just basically scared of the media and she’s already been a victim of people talking to her and her family saying things and it coming out into the world different than what they said, so she’s already been a victim of the media…misrepresentation let’s call it.

    MILLER: Misrepresentation of your story, you mean?

    PETERSON: Of what has actually been said by people.

    MILLER: I’m sorry I’m just hearing some clicking on the phone. Does she want to work or does she just want to be a housewife or what do you think?

    PETERSON: ….particular now. She’s working and I’m the housewife. We got a little role reversal. I’m retired so I devote all my time to my children.

    MILLER: I hear she had some issues with her ex-boyfriend and the father of her children too, I guess. Two different guys.

    PETERSON: Two different guys. Both have been abusive to her in the past. Subsequently, now she’s with me.

    MILLER: This is something I’d ask her but do you think the story of what happened to your third wife, to Kathleen and Stacy’s disappearance; do you think that sort of troubles Chrissy at all?

    PETERSON: I think early on it did but after she got to know me, she looks at me and she says, “No way. No way.”

    MILLER: Meaning, no way…what?

    PETERSON: That I was responsible for either of those things, her missing or Kathleen’s death.

    MILLER: You must consider yourself a pretty lucky guy, Drew.

    PETERSON: I think so. I’ve been lucky…”lucky at cards, lucky in love” I guess. I don’t know (laughs). I’ve done alright for myself but I’ve worked very hard through the years. I’ve always been a good provider for my family so it’s just like, to have the love of a young beautiful woman is a very special thing.

    MILLER: OK and you still haven’t set the date yet, huh?

    PETERSON: No.

    MILLER: Alright. Have you set a date for filing for divorce?

    PETERSON: No.

    MILLER: OK, alright Drew, thank you. Anything you want to add I might not have asked you about?

    PETERSON: No, really nothing, no. We’re doing OK. Everybody Happy and just rattling around in the new home with everybody like a bunch of baseball cards. Everybody’s just trying to find a spot.

    MILLER: What was it like turning 55?

    PETERSON: 55?

    MILLER: Oh, 54?

    PETERSON: Right, 55.

    MILLER: What was it like turning 55?

    PETERSON: Same as it was when I was 54. (Laughs) Not a big difference. As you get older birthdays don’t mean as much as they do when you’re a kid so…just another day…another day in the life.

    MILLER: I have to ask you one ore question. Are you concerned that the State’s Attorney might be closing in?

    PETERSON: I’ve always been concerned about that. But I know I’ve not done anything wrong. I can rely on my legal team to protect me from any false accusations against me and that’s what we’ll do.

    MILLER: OK. One last question and then I’ll let you go. Any chance that Chrissy would like to come to the phone?

    PETERSON: No. She’s not here anyway, to come to the phone.

    MILLER: OK. What would she tell me if she did come to the phone?

    PETERSON: I am the most beautiful man she’s ever met in her life. (laughs)

  21. Thank you, Facs!!!!!!! Since I can’t stand to hear the suspect’s voice anymore, this is easier to stomach. Your work is appreciated!

  22. PETERSON: Oh yeah. Any young girl that’s thrown into this all of a sudden — it’s just a very scary thing and at one particular time it scared her off altogether but subsequently we got back together and decided to be together.

    MILLER: What particular time was that?

    PETERSON: This was during the month — over a month’s period.

    ***

    Um – once again who refers to their fiance or wife as a “young girl” like Drew seems to like to do.

    And – looks like he has an out on the strip mall, bar chick make-out session. He and Chrissy were on a “break” at the time so it wasn’t cheating on her.

    (Barf!)

  23. MILLER: I have to ask you one ore question. Are you concerned that the State’s Attorney might be closing in?

    PETERSON: I’ve always been concerned about that. But I know I’ve not done anything wrong. I can rely on my legal team to protect me from any false accusations against me and that’s what we’ll do.
    ***************

    Yes, I remember seeing that somewher before – that he’s “afraid” of “false accusations.”

    That translates to he’s afraid they’re coming for him, but in his mind, it’s all lies. Enter, the Dream Team. Except, they can’t undo the minds of the future jury pool anymore. Thank goodness the suspect has kept up his charades, because it just might work to convict him!

  24. The way he describes it sounds weirdly like he took in some sort of foster family. It does not sound like he has met the love of his life and is embarking on a new journey of ‘bliss’.

  25. What was all that freakin’ noise on the line during that interview?

    Do you think Joel was sitting next to Drew on the bed and they were both trying to listen to the cell phone?

  26. facsmiley // January 15, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    What was all that freakin’ noise on the line during that interview?

    Do you think Joel was sitting next to Drew on the bed and they were both trying to listen to the cell phone?

    ***
    Nah – was probably some new sex toys! Hahahahaha!! (Barf again! Sorry – I’m cracking myself up again today.)

  27. Rescue had mentioned something earlier about the $6,000 a month pension being on the table to support Drew’s fiancee, potentially (when Drew goes to jail). Suggesting it might be a financial incentive to marry him, if down the road she is compensated.

    Remember this- it will not be an issue who gets the pension her or those kids, should Drew go to prison. If Drew is convicted of any felony he committed during his time on the force, the pension is null and void… GONE!! Whether it be Kathy Savio’s death, Stacy’s death, or even petty gun charges… he will lose every red cent of that pension immediately, following the conviction.

  28. MILLER: I’m sorry I’m just hearing some clicking on the phone. Does she want to work or does she just want to be a housewife or what do you think?

    Ah … the sweet sound of a line that is tapped? 😀

    So Drew goes to Jarrod’s for Christmas gifts but will talk to his friend the jeweler about an engagement ring . . . maybe reset some stones from another ring?

    PETERSON: I am the most beautiful man she’s ever met in her life. (laughs)

    Has she lived under a rock her entire life? If he’s the most beautiful man she’s ever met, she needs to get out more.

    Or just get out.

  29. facsmiley // January 15, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    The way he describes it sounds weirdly like he took in some sort of foster family. It does not sound like he has met the love of his life and is embarking on a new journey of ‘bliss’.

    That’s what I thought when I read “we got, uh, two new kids” …

    P.S. Am now only hallucinating one Notify me of followup comments via email. And since I can’t resist clicking to see what happens . . .

  30. I clicked it.

    And I now am hallucinating another message:

    Your are subscribed to this post. Manage your Subscriptions

    So of course … now I have to click on the Manage your Subscriptions link! 😀

  31. Well, a tapped phone typically does not make clicking noises anymore nowadays… that goes back to the 80’s- when technology was shotty, to say the least. Although, I have no doubt that Drew’s entire place is tapped & wired, cameras @ Sharon’s the whole nine on this guy.

    Drew also referred to certain members (of Chrissy’s family I gather) having been mis-quoted by the media. I find this statement amusing… as Chrissy’s father, Ernie Raines went on the record at Fox and other media sources to say “ain’t gonna happen!!”… he would drive his Cadillac right through Drew’s house to stop him from marrying his daughter! How does one misconstrue that?!

  32. Drew Peterson–his third wife dead under suspicious circumstances and his fourth wife missing–says Raines isn’t bothered by the thought that Peterson might be responsible for what happened to two previous wives.

    “I think early on it did, but after she got to know me, she looks at me and she says no way. No way.”

    WBBM: Meaning “no way” what?

    “That I was responsible for either of these things.”

    Peterson says he’s “lucky in cards, lucky in love.”

    I guess Ms. Chrissy and I do not see eye to eye on this.

    I too said “no way” when I started following this case. And as I got to know Drew Peterson, I started saying No way is he telling the truth about her running off with another man.

    And how is someone who has been married 4 times considered lucky in love?

    Chrissy might want to ask herself that question before she says I do.

    Qhorses, I’ve not seen anything about the GJ. Hopefully Danya will let us know (hint, hint).

  33. I do strongly believe though… Drew & Joel are taping every single telephone conversation given to media, and recording all TV and radio interviews in order to keep their facts straight- so maybe Drew was on the tapping end here, with his Radio Shack gadget held up to the phone receiver. Click, click click!!

    Ernie Raines (Christina’s Dad) had also said Drew met her years ago at the laundry mat. Which is odd for someone who’s wife Stacy washed his clothes at home, I assume. Also, Drew made promises to her of a new car, etc. (same Stacy “I’ll save you and rescue you from your horrible life” pattern). Jesus, her dad is 2 years younger than Drew, so there’s problem #1… she’s also got an abusive past… along with a couple kids she had outta wedlock in tow as well. The strikes are already against her- plus she’s a rather chubby thing and likes Blue Man Group, soooo… I’ll gather my own opinion and say “DAMAGED GOODS”. PERFECT VICTIM TO FALL PREY TO DREW’S LIFE PLAN- Marry and kill as many women as possible before actually going to prison for it!

  34. I’ll also bet there is no ring yet because Drew’s having the ring he bought for Stacy only weeks before “she ran off with another man”… err… brutally was murdered by her husband melted down into a new ring for young Chrissy to wear!!

    Let’s face it, the Drew is so cheap, he did his Christmas shopping on New Year’s Eve- no doubt shopping the clearance cases for jewelry. Dude, classy. I always buy X-mas gifts for loved ones during after the new year sales!

  35. Weird, some of my anagram (name scramble) phrases were…

    – Hunters I Kill
    – Hitler Kiln Us
    – Hitler Link Us
    – Killer Shut In
    – Killer Hunts I
    – Heir Kills Nut

    – CREEPY- I see a dismal pattern here

  36. WKELOL – Maybe looks that way, dismal, but you’re a great blogger! Always appreciate your interesting posts.

  37. Lastly- the most eerie anagram for my first & last name was…

    – I HUNT KILLERS

    Now my crazy obsession with serial murderers and solving their cases all finally makes sense!

  38. Today In Douchenozzles: Drew Peterson “Lucky In Love”
    We thought we were going to make it through the week without anything cringe-inducing but unfortunately Drew Peterson had other plans. In an interview with WBBM’s Steve Miller, Peterson described the extended family with fiance Christina Raines as “harmonious bliss.” Peterson hasn’t filed for divorce from dead missing wife Stacy yet so he hasn’t set a wedding date for future ex-wife #5. When asked if Raines was confident Peterson was innocent of any wrongdoing in the death of ex-wife Kathleen Savio and the disappearance of current wife Stacy, Drew said no.

    WBBM: Do you think the story of what happened to your third wife, Kathleen, and Stacy’s disappearance, do you think that troubles Chrissy at all?

    Drew: I think early on it did, but after she got to know me, she looks at me and she says no way. No way.

    WBBM: Meaning “no way” what?

    Drew:That I was responsible for either of these things. Her missing and Kathleen’s death.

    Peterson called himself, “lucky in cards, lucky in love.” Yes. One ex-wife dead of homicide and another missing for over a year. What “luck.”

    By Marcus Gilmer in News on January 15, 2009

    http://chicagoist.com/2009/01/15/today_in_douchenozzles_drew_peterso.php

  39. You too, thanks Rescue! I read your posts all the time (and find you most informative).

    I’ve just been hanging out here today waiting to hear something on the Grand Jury proceedings.

  40. I applaud you both, lol.

    I don’t know if we’ll hear anything at all about GJ until it’s over. There hasn’t been any reporting for ages and the State’s Attorney’s office thanked the press for their “professionalism”. It is supposed to be secret, after all, so perhaps it’s a bit unseemly to be hanging around trying to get a photograph or other.
    Bummer, huh?

  41. Maybe Danya will read here today and let us know if there was any scuttlebutt about the GJ proceedings, if there were any. Maybe, just maybe, they met to hand down an indictment! And/or to get to the bottom of the Stebic disaster too.

  42. Yep, you’re exactly right Bucket…

    Although I sometimes wish the professionalism of the grand jury’s cast of characters left something to be desired, so we could get a little leak here or there! Hence, the only photograph we can expect to see today is one of Drew & his bride-to-be at Tailgater’s sucking down Jell-o shots during Thurs. night happy hour!

    Bummer, yes.

  43. I’ve been glued to the news about the plane that went down in the Hudson River (Bucket, don’t know if you have heard this news). The plane took off, apparently birds were ingested into the engine/engines and quit, and the pilot only had a minute to come up with a solution – to put the plan down into the River. Amazing, everyone survived, helped one another!

  44. I just saw that Rescue- talk about fast action and acting quickly under pressure! That pilot is amazing.

  45. OK – I had to try these anagram things with my ID and some of them made me crack up again:

    A Butt Hit Oink
    Bank Thou I Tit
    Tuba Ho Knit It
    Tabu Tho I Knit
    Thank Bi It Out
    That But I Oink
    Akin Butt Tho I

    So what the heck does that say about me??

  46. No movie, I don’t care how happy an ending, can compare to this real-life miracle! It’s absolutely amazing. Passengers on ferries helping passengers get off a disabled plane, people helping people – it’s awesome.

  47. You know – whenever things like that happen, time and time again people somehow put all their differences aside and they just help each other. Maybe we just really don’t have all that much higher intelligence above basic survival instincts as we’d like to think.

    The sad fact is that New York has had to be the ones to test this type of challenge time and time again.

  48. I like these spontaneous Drew interviews when he thinks he is on a roll with a captive audience.

    The more he talks, the more he reveals how he thinks and the more he contradicts his own previous interviews and statements.

    This time Drew states there is no engagement ring as yet, he hasn’t filed for divorce yet either (why not considering it is as easy as 1,2,3 according to Joel Brodsky and he has a new bride ready and waiting).

    It therefore appears all Drew has so far is an already demeaning way of speaking about his new “fiance” as once again he makes it look like Christina pushed herself onto him and how she should realize what a great catch he is considering how hard he worked and what a great providor he has been for his family (!)

    He also does not hesitate for one second to be utterly dismissive of Christina’s previous relationships and how they have been “abusive”, but that she is now safe and well with Mr Wonderful himself.

    Of course the fact Drew is under investigation for murder is only a minor inconvenience and shouldn’t have any effect on their relationship as after all Chrissie already knows that “no way” Drew could be responsible for any such atrocities.

    Of course Chrissie would know !

    Keep on talking Drew ………………

  49. I agree. On the plane rescue story note… I feel happy to live in this country today for that very reason. Helping one another is the key.

    Thinkaboutit2 made me realize how truly disappointed I get when I see people like Drew on the news, making yet another big gotcha story. Rarely does anything pleasant overpower the amount of negativity news-wise.

    – Quote of the day –

    “Maybe we just really don’t have all that much higher intelligence above basic survival instincts as we’d like to think. ”

    Thinkaboutit2
    author

  50. WKELOL – Thanks for the honor!

    Remember though Drew’s latest news report is how he is being a very helpful soul taking in Chrissy and her kids and protecting them from her family and her ex-boyfriend.

    In all seriousness though – the truth is that unless a story of kindness includes an associated tragedy, it would never even make it on the news.

    I do believe that the majority of people are good at heart. I’ve seen t his case bring out some incredible ugliness between people that don’t even know each other. Hopefully people can stick to pushing to keep Stacy’s name in the news so she can be found and keep the hammer on the legal authorities to not let these become two more cold cases that just get filed away with the others. And keep giving support to the families of the missing – they are the ones that need us the most.

  51. WAKE THE FUNK UP PEOPLE
    I wish there was one smart person in the media that can expose this for what it is.
    This is a publicity stunt for Drucifer and his “brain trust” (think janitor-Scrubs). Glenn Selig, Joel Brodsky, and that pos “author” Derek Armstrong are bottom feeders, and are all in this together with Drucifer, to make money off a book, and to keep any normal people from getting the kids and his stuff when he goes to jail.
    WHY CAN”T THE MEDIA FIGURE THIS OUT???
    There is no fiancé, Christina and Ernie are old friends of Drucifer, are in on the game, and they and the “brain trust” are laughing all the way to the bank. The Bolingbrook Police can not even figure this out. (No wonder though, given their inept investigative techniques shown in the past). That book that keeps getting mentioned in all these stories was written by the “brain trust” and contains MANY UNTRUTHS made up because in Drucifers own words “sinister sells”.
    They did not even interview anyone for this book. IT IS A SHAM! You can get MOST of the story for free on the internet.
    One of the many examples is

    http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_timeline.htm

    If you want to donate MONEY to Drucifer and the “brain trust”, then buy that book, otherwise DO NOT!

    (I know most of you regulars know this, but I’m posting it everywhere.)

    rectitudinous

  52. Wooo, I was nodding off there for a moment, but I’m up now!

    Thanks rectitudinous for the post. I must admit, I did have to look up the new word for the day:

    rectitude:

    1. Moral uprightness; righteousness.
    2. The quality or condition of being correct in judgment.
    3. The quality of being straight.

  53. Ok, well, while I can always appreciate reading what others may think, I have to disagree that this is the Raines’ in on a master plan. I happen to think that Chrissy Raines is looking for an easy way out of a financial hole she’s in, being single with two small kids, and has taken the low road by shacking up with the disgusting 55 year old butthead, not to mention she’s brain deficient at the moment, but I don’t think it’s a conspiracy.

    But, then again, maybe she will turn out to be wired for sound and this is the “new information” we’ve all been waiting for in the “New Year,” heh?

  54. I have to laugh about something and figured this was the perfect place to do so. Since it is so slow on the forum and news front today, I was wandering around the web and figured I’d see if any new non-news was out on the prchannel website. Then out of total boredom, I scrolled the whole page and saw the following at the bottom of the page:

    “We’re a newswire that can effectively send press releases online and directly to news reporters and editors to reach consumers directly online.”

    Um – Don’t you usually hire PR guys to write things in a manner better than you are able to yourself? They send them “online and directly” so they are “directly online”. LOL!! Yeah – That is the kind of wordsmithing that I’d pay good money for! NOT!!!

  55. Firstly, I tend to agree with Rescue regarding the conspiracy theory. Yes, it would also be fun to find out later Ms. Raines has been wired for sound!

    Secondly, Thinkaboutit2… you made me crack up with that PR firm’s… ‘um…. let’s call it a “Mission Statement”! Seriously it sounds like Casey Anthony wrote that caption. “I will absolutely send a letter to you Mom directly, and Dad directly as I told Lee directly… and Lee knows already, absolutely!!” What??

  56. Oke, that there is no “fiance” or “engagement” doesn’t surprise me one bit as the stories (Drew And His Team) once again don’t make any sense.

    It is obvious it is Drew and his Sociopathy keeping himself in the news, but I need to do some thinking about the “Ernie conspiracy”

    Does Ernie have any personal reason to play silly games with BBPD ?

  57. http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1145&z=4

    Media Alert: Battle Over the Estate of Drew Peterson’s Ex-Wife Heads to Court
    Drew Peterson appealed the reopening of Kathleen Savio’s estate and appointment of new executors. Oral arguments are set for Tuesday, Jan. 27.
    thepublicityagency.com – January 16, 2009

    (PRNewsChannel) / Chicago, Ill. /
    The following is a Media Alert from criminal defense attorney Joel A. Brodsky regarding his client Drew Peterson.

    What: Oral arguments begin in Drew Peterson appeal of decision to reopen late wife’s estate.

    When: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 1:15 pm CT

    Where:
    Illinois Appellate Court, Third District
    1004 Columbus St., Ottawa, Illinois

    Note: Drew Peterson will be present at the hearing.

    More Info:
    Drew Peterson and his uncle James Carroll appealed the re-opening of the Kathleen Savio estate and the appointment of Ann Mario Doman and Henry Savio, Savio’s siblings, as new joint executors.

    Five of Savio’s relatives filed a joint petition in March, 2008 to re-open the estate to prepare for a wrongful death lawsuit against Drew Peterson, according to their lawyer. Two weeks later they filed another petition asking that Doman and Mr. Savio be named as executors.

    Peterson’s attorney Joel Brodsky filed a seven-page response asking that it be thrown out because the statute of limitations had expired.

    The judge ruled in favor of Savio’s relatives on both petitions.

    Peterson is now appealing those decisions.

    Savio was Peterson’s third wife. Her body was found in a circular bathtub on March 1, 2004. Her death was initially ruled an accidental drowning. However after Stacy Peterson’s disappearance, her body was exhumed and underwent forensic examination when it was ruled a homicide.

    Drew Peterson denies any involvement in his wife Stacy’s disappearance or in Savio’s death. He has not been charged in connection with either crime.

  58. thanks, facs.

    They are so on a loser here. The statute of limitaion will be running from when her death was ruled a homicide, I think.

  59. As for the non-engagement theory. I have a problem with the logic behind it.

    If there is no engagement, then how would the part about keeping the kids and assets from other people come into play? Raines would have to marry Drew in order to legally have any claim to anything.

    I understand that the book is jam packed with non-facts and that it was written at the behest of Drew and his team, but I don’t believe Drew would disrupt his life to this extent (angry exes, police visits, etc. ) just to keep the story in the news in order to market the book.

    Listen again to the WBBM story. No mention of D’Armstrong or his crappy book.

    I believe that Christina and Drew were ‘dating’. I believe she moved in with her kids and I’m sure that they are talking about marriage. It fits in so perfectly with Drew’s pattern of finding young women in trouble, taking it upon himself to “rescue” them, a rush to marriage and then of course, cheating on her while simultaneously stalking her and accusing her of cheating.

  60. Well, now, it’s all starting to make sense. The Probate Estate matter is being re-visited, and this could just be what Glasgow was talking about when he said he expected news in the New Year. If this goes forward, there may be all kinds of revelations uncovered, and discovery issues.

    Not to mention that the insurance companies have mountains of attorneys on retainer to go after false claims. I doubt that the companies that paid out money on Kathleen’s insurance polices are going to go stand in a corner and wear dunce caps. Interesting.

  61. As for the “brain trust”, I don’t see it as such a tight, coordinated group. I still see it more as hyaenas, wild dogs, and vultures all drinking from the same water hole.

    They all have something to gain and for the most part they tolerate each other as long as they are getting what they want.

  62. facsmiley // January 16, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    “Note: Drew Peterson will be present at the hearing.”

    Attention all groupies!!
    ***********

    Oh, good, we’ll be back to getting our blow-by-blow dissertations about who’s living by the river, and who’s remodeling their bathroom, straight from the mouth that gets it straight from the horse’s mouth. 😉

  63. So….I guess Joel changed his mind again? Last July they withdrew the motion to stay and Joel was pretty arrogant about it, saying that the wrongful death lawsuit would only be a boon for the defense team:
    ******************

    http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/peterson/x2050100858/Petersons-attorney-withdraws-stay-motion-on-Savio-estate

    “Drew Peterson’s attorney Joel Brodsky Wednesday withdrew a motion to stay court proceedings on the reopening of Kathleen Savio’s estate.

    The withdrawal paves the way for Savio’s family to move forward with their investigation into whether there is enough evidence to pursue a wrongful death lawsuit against Peterson for Savio’s March 2004 drowning. But Brodsky said he would welcome the lawsuit in the event his appeal of the decision to reopen the estate is denied. The lawsuit, he said, would give Peterson’s legal team the right to interview witnesses currently off-limits to them.

    “It would actually be a gift rather than a burden,” Brodsky said. “We’d pretty much be able to have a private grand jury. We could depose pretty much every person that’s been before the grand jury. For example, Pastor (Neil) Schori, I think he’d probably be the first guy.”

  64. I remember seeing, though, that the attorneys for the Savio family were backing off for a while, waiting to see what would transpire first with the criminal investigations. It’s all a reminder of how complex everything is. The Probate Estate, the original Savio investigation, the present investigations.

    No doubt, if the Savio Probate matter goes forward, it’ll be very interesting.

  65. Interesting and educational. There’s a lot I don’t understand about how the criminal case, the estate hearing and the wrongful death suit might relate to each other.

    Looks like another timesink!

  66. The following is a Media Alert from criminal defense attorney Joel A. Brodsky regarding his client Drew Peterson.

    That is how they get their wish for the “evil” media to go away.
    unbelievable

  67. I kind of always thought that the complex matter of what transpired after Kathleen’s death would be the most relevant matter that would take center stage in all of this. Taking the logical course of determining how she died, now said to be murder, and then the process of looking into the whole cast of characters involved in finding, validating and filing the Will, and filing of insurance claim forms. Of course, if any of this was fraud, it’s a major problem for Peterson if it can be proven that he was involved in shady dealings to gain financially. That’s not even considering the fact that he was the one that killed Kathleen. Even if she fell dead into the bath tub without his help, he still was the major beneficiary of her estate, and if he defrauded the insurance companies and filed a phony Will, he’s got a big legal issue to overcome.

  68. I guess JB decided it best to just try to slow everything down. To sue for wrongful death, the estate must be reopened, but once that is done all kinds of stuff will be back in the papers about him and his hinky paperwork. Maybe they better keep it as quiet as they can for as long as they can. I think some assets may be threatened sooner rather than later.

  69. womenscorned – aw, it’s all Brodsky’s “white noise,” although I can’t even imagine what he has reasoned in his mind that he’s accomplishing by this anymore. On one hand, you have a PR agent who tries to portray him as a Mr. Mom, yet, on the other hand, you have an author, who’s joined to Peterson’s hip, putting out press releases that have repulsed most everyone that has read them.

    To say that it’s getting to the point that Brodsky & Company are actually working against their client than for him would seem to fit better than what they were hired to do. Peterson might be in the limelight, as he so loves, but he sure isn’t sitting well with the public and just may be sealing his own fate. He’s a runaway train, and he’s out-of-control. Fortunately for him, his hired guns crave the media as much as he does, and appear desparate for the attention. What other reason would there be to stick with a jerk that goes against the very advice they give him?

  70. Listen again to the WBBM story. No mention of D’Armstrong or his crappy book.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes that’s correct, it was solely Drew Peterson blowing his own trumpet at full capacity with his broken record story how desirable he is to the ladies, what a great providor he is, how the media interferes in his life and how he is innocent of any wrong doing (!)

    That is always the gist of his stories, but at the same time he contradicts nearly everything he’s ever said before or anything his PR machine has just churned out on his behalf.

    The truth is always in the inconsistencies he blurts out, so the more he talks the more he puts his foot in it.

  71. Rescueapet
    What other reason would there be to stick with a jerk that goes against the very advice they give him?
    ******
    Following along Facs’ analogy of Team Drew being not a team at all, but a motley collection of carion fanciers sharing a watering hole… I think they stick with him solely for their own personal gain.

  72. rescueapet // January 16, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    I kind of always thought that the complex matter of what transpired after Kathleen’s death would be the most relevant matter that would take center stage in all of this. Taking the logical course of determining how she died, now said to be murder, and then the process of looking into the whole cast of characters involved in finding, validating and filing the Will, and filing of insurance claim forms. Of course, if any of this was fraud, it’s a major problem for Peterson if it can be proven that he was involved in shady dealings to gain financially. That’s not even considering the fact that he was the one that killed Kathleen. Even if she fell dead into the bath tub without his help, he still was the major beneficiary of her estate, and if he defrauded the insurance companies and filed a phony Will, he’s got a big legal issue to overcome.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes, Kathleens supposed “handwritten will” , his notarization of his own documents, his manipulation of her Estate with the intent of collecting insurance money he was not entitled to will most certainly get the ball rolling.

    My guess is it will turn into an avalanche in no time !

  73. Drew Peterson, meanwhile, has said he found the will after his ex-wife died.

    “We just tucked it away, and I found it after she died,” Peterson said earlier this year. “There’s nothing sinister and out of line about it. Everything was done proper.”

    A Will County judge accepted the will as valid in 2005 after two of Drew Peterson’s friends testified they had witnessed Peterson and Savio sign the document.

    **********

    Yeah, maybe they were friends in 2005, but they’re not now. At least, by news accounts, Alex Morelli isn’t his “friend.” He said he wants nothing to do with him and that Drew Peterson has turned his life upside down.

  74. rescueapet // January 16, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Drew Peterson, meanwhile, has said he found the will after his ex-wife died.

    “We just tucked it away, and I found it after she died,” Peterson said earlier this year. “There’s nothing sinister and out of line about it. Everything was done proper.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, makes you wonder doesn’t it.

    Didn’t Drew say that will was drawn up before the family went on vacation and was provision for the children in case something happened.

    Strangely enough there was no mention at all of specific provision for the children and even more so if this will was “tucked away” as Drew says it was, as how could he be sure this will would have been found at all, if something had happened to both parents on this vacation ??

    The will reeks of Kathleen not going to be around when this will is going to be “found”.

    It even states Drew wants to be interred with Kathleens “remains” but it doesn’t say anywhere what Kathleen wants done in case Drew happens to be the unfortunate one (!)

    HUH, slight oversight on Drews part !!

    Also, what parents draw up a will and then tuck it away so no one knows about it.

    Another one of Drews stories that don’t make any sense !

  75. 3/17/2008

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/17/ng.01.html

    GRACE: Also tonight, we learn, Joel Brodsky — this is Drew Peterson`s defense attorney — that the will of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, is now — the handling of her estate — since her death has now been ruled a homicide officially and a second autopsy following exhumation, I understand that you are fighting any reopening of her estate.

    BRODSKY: Yes. They`ve moved to reopen the estate…

    GRACE: Who`s “they”?

    BRODSKY: The Savio family. They`ve moved to reopen the estate…

    GRACE: Well, do you blame them? I mean, her death has been ruled a homicide now.

    BRODSKY: Right. The problem that they have is that they moved to open the estate to administer a wrongful death case. However, the statute of limitations ran over two years ago.

    GRACE: Oh, really?

    BRODSKY: Yes.

    GRACE: Well, hold on. To Jeffrey Skatoff, a will and probate specialist joining us out of West Palm Beach, Florida. Jeffrey, what about if fraud is somehow involved or some illegal activity is involved in the death that leads to that will?

    JEFFREY SKATOFF, WILL AND PROBATE ATTORNEY: Nancy, as far as reopening the estate goes, Illinois has what`s called the “slayer statute,” which means that if you establish that somebody killed the deceased, they can`t inherit from the estate. Under Illinois law, there is no statute of limitations to apply to the “slayer statute” in a probate estate.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0803/17/ng.01.html

    GRACE: Joel Brodsky…

    SKATOFF: Moreover, if…

    GRACE: … your thoughts?

    BRODSKY: But Drew did not inherit from the estate. What they want to do is open up — reopen the estate to administer what they`re calling a new asset. But that asset doesn`t exist. A lawsuit which — for which the statute of limitations has run out is not an asset.

    GRACE: According to Savio`s family, there were $3 million at stake in Savio`s estate.

    BRODSKY: Yes, that was the insurance proceeds, which went to the children, not to Drew.

    *********
    Smith was representing Savio in her long divorce proceedings from Peterson.

    Though he said he recalled Savio told him she and Drew Peterson didn’t have a will, he couldn’t offer specifics about the conversation.
    *********

  76. Is Savio’s signature faked?

    DREW PETERSON CASE | Kathleen Savio’s family doubts Drew’s third wife signed off on deal to buy house; handwriting analysis also raises some questions

    January 25, 2008
    BY CHRIS FUSCO, DAN ROZEK AND STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporters

    Before Drew Peterson could buy a house in 2002 for himself and his 18-year-old girlfriend, Stacy Cales, he needed his estranged wife, Kathleen Savio, to sign off on the deal.

    But Savio’s signature on the legal document looks markedly different from more than a dozen others she had written before she died in 2004, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.

    “That’s definitely not her signature,” Savio’s sister, Anna Doman, said after viewing a copy of the one-page power of attorney that Drew Peterson himself notarized. “I know that’s not her signature.”

    An analysis by a forensic document examiner also found some differences.

    Ellen Mulcrone Schuetzner, whom the Sun-Times hired to study legal and business papers tied to Peterson and Savio, questioned the “proportions of letterforms, ending strokes, slant, spacing and size of the signature.” Schuetzner, however, couldn’t reach a definitive conclusion based on the quality and number of documents available to her.

    “I can’t eliminate the possibility that it is or isn’t her signature,” said Schuetzner, who has nearly 30 years of experience in her field.

    Drew Peterson — a retired Bolingbrook police sergeant — insisted the signature is valid but referred questions about it to his attorney. Officials with the State Police and Will County state’s attorney’s office declined to comment.

    The questions about the signature come as investigators probe Peterson’s financial affairs in hopes of finding clues about Savio’s death, as well as the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, sources say. Stacy was 18 when she moved into the 6 Pheasant Chase Court house in Bolingbrook with Drew Peterson. She hasn’t been seen since Oct. 28.

    Savio’s death — once ruled an accidental bathtub drowning — is being reinvestigated in the wake of Stacy’s disappearance.

    While they haven’t named Drew Peterson a suspect in Savio’s death, they have said they believe he was involved in Stacy’s disappearance.
    A valid will?

    Questions are also being raised about a two-page handwritten will signed by Savio and Drew Peterson that’s dated March 2, 1997. The document was taken into evidence by investigators Dec. 19, court records indicate.

    One of the two witnesses who signed the will, Bolingbrook police officer Alex J. Morelli, has appeared before a Will County grand jury hearing evidence about Savio’s death. Attempts to reach Morelli and the other witness, Gary L. Marcolina, were unsuccessful.

    In a recent interview, Peterson, 53, said there is nothing wrong with the will, which was filed 15 days after Savio was found dead on March 1, 2004.

    “We just tucked it away, and I found it after she died,” Peterson said of the will. “There’s nothing sinister and out-of-line about it. Everything was done proper.”

    At the time she died, Savio, 40, was in a court battle with Peterson over proceeds from the sale of a tavern they’d owned. Peterson, she claimed, had kept all the money from that sale.

    The will named Peterson’s uncle James B. Carroll executor of Savio’s estate. Carroll went on to award Peterson control of virtually all of Savio’s assets — even though Peterson and Savio had divorced.

    “The actions of the Executor were not in the best interest of the Estate or its beneficiaries,” wrote Richard J. Kavanagh, the court-appointed administrator for Savio’s estate.

    Kavanagh was involved in the case because no one from Savio’s family formally volunteered to represent the estate in court. He called the will a “purported will” in court papers.

    “My concern is that this is a handwritten will that just popped up after she died,” Kavanagh said this week. “It gives you the sense that it’s something that’s concocted.”

    A judge, however, accepted the will because Marcolina and Morelli testified in court March 23, 2005, that they witnessed Savio and Peterson signing the document, Kavanagh said.

    Peterson dismissed Kavanagh’s concerns and asserted that the lawyer is angry that he couldn’t notch a hefty sum in legal fees off Savio’s case.

    Schuetzner, the document examiner hired by the Sun-Times, examined Savio’s signature on the will and found “a lot of consistency” with Savio’s other signatures.

    Savio’s sister, Doman, was uncertain about Savio’s signature on the will. But she was more concerned about other aspects of the document, including that its first page equally divides Savio’s assets among her two children and her two stepchildren.

    Savio, according to Doman, said a month before her death that she’d written a new will that would leave everything to her two young sons, now ages 13 and 15.

    “She told me she had a new will. She promised to get me a copy,” Doman said. “She was dead before she could get it to me.”

    Doman added that her family wasn’t aware until recently that the will named Carroll, Drew Peterson’s uncle, executor of Savio’s estate.

    Peterson counters the family had an opportunity to get involved in the case. “If they didn’t like it, well, they should have done something. They didn’t,” Peterson said.

    Carroll did not return calls seeking comment.
    Peterson Inc.

    Besides Peterson’s work as a cop, Savio and he had run two businesses during their married life: the tavern company, called Blue Lightning Corp., and a printing firm, DA. P.A.G.E. Inc., state records show.

    Separately, Peterson dabbled in real estate. He and two partners bought and flipped two homes in 2000 and 2001.

    In March 2002, both Peterson and Savio filed for divorce. On March 22, 2002, Savio agreed in court to waive any future ownership rights to the house that Drew Peterson wanted to buy for himself and Stacy in Bolingbrook.

    A power of attorney document, dated about a month after that court appearance, formalized the agreement and included Savio’s signature. Peterson used the document to secure a $226,600 mortgage the next day.

    Peterson said Savio willingly signed the form even though the couple was separated and getting divorced. Peterson also said he bought the house without any financial help from Savio.

    “I wanted to buy this place but I didn’t want it tied up in divorce court,” he said of the home. “I bought it without her help financially. There was nothing improper about it.”

    The power of attorney document that includes Savio’s signature needed to be notarized — something usually done by a notary public who has no financial interest in the deal. But Peterson himself notarized the document, which makes it difficult to independently verify Savio’s signature.

    “If it was a forgery, she had ample time to have her and her lawyer object and make an issue of it,” said Peterson’s lawyer, Joel Brodsky. “Obviously it could have been done better, but I don’t know that it’s anything untoward.”

    source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/758919,CST-NWS-drew25.article

  77. The power of attorney document that includes Savio’s signature needed to be notarized — something usually done by a notary public who has no financial interest in the deal. But Peterson himself notarized the document, which makes it difficult to independently verify Savio’s signature.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There you are – Peterson notarized his own documents and that is just being glossed over as if it is something extremely trivial.

    They cannot independently verify Kathleen Savio’s signature because Drew notarized his own documents.

    And why did Drew notarize his own documents ?

    So Kathleens signature could not be independently verified.

    I can’t believe what this man has gotten away with over time !!

  78. JAH – yeah, that’s just the point. How did he get away with all of this? Sir Drew A Lot sure did manipulate the system.

  79. Savio, according to Doman, said a month before her death that she’d written a new will that would leave everything to her two young sons, now ages 13 and 15.

    “She told me she had a new will. She promised to get me a copy,” Doman said. “She was dead before she could get it to me.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Some food for thought:

    It could very well be this is the will Drew really did find and must have angered him terribly as it must have excluded him from everything.

    All the more reason to get Kathleen out of the way, re write the will to benefit himself instead and “find” it a year or so later when the dust has settled.

    Not saying this is what happened but a very possible scenario as Sciopaths don’t like to be thwarted or crossed and especially not by a woman they consider to exert control over.

  80. Just a question and then I’m out of here:

    If someone notarizes their own documents, doesn’t that render the document invalid if its contents are questioned as a result ?

  81. You can’t believe a word I’m saying as I’m still here, but I found this rather peculiar story about a man missing from his hotel in Dekalb and Bradley Olsen still missing from the same area:

    Brad Olsen: Missing but not forgotten
    At two-year anniversary, family holds hope of finding what happened to son

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1376625,2_1_AU14_OLSEN_S1.article

    January 14, 2009
    By ERIKA WURST ewurst@scn1.com

    “I would have never thought that when this all started we would be talking about a two-year anniversary,” Maple Park resident Sue Olsen said Tuesday, her voice quivering.

    Olsen’s son, Brad, 26, went missing from a DeKalb bar on Jan. 20, 2007.

    “Every day we think of some other way to get out there and try to find Brad,” she said.

    “It just saddens me that we have another gentleman missing in the area.”

    On Dec. 25, 2008, the family of James Verduin came to understand Olsen’s sadness.

    On Christmas Day, Verduin, a 56-year-old Wisconsin resident, was involved in a single-vehicle accident on Interstate 88 while driving through Illinois to visit friends. After refusing medical treatment, Verduin was taken to the Best Western Inn & Suites, 1212 W. Lincoln Highway in DeKalb, by a tow truck driver. He checked in — and then disappeared.

    Two days later, Verduin’s family was notified to pick up the man’s belongings at the hotel. Clothes and a cell phone had been left behind. Verduin had never checked out. DeKalb police said no financial activity of any type has been made by Verduin since his disappearance.

    And while they don’t suspect foul play, intense searches are again under way in DeKalb.

    Olsen said with the area being close to her son’s disappearance, she hopes searchers will be on the lookout for Brad as well.

    “It’s hard to envision all of these people that are still out there, despite the continued efforts we all put into it,” Olsen said, pointing to missing women Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson and St. Charles resident John Spira as recent examples.

    Stebic went missing from her Plainfield home in April 2007; Petersen, of Bolingbrook, has not been seen since October 2007; and Spira was last seen at his workplace in West Chicago in February 2007.

    “Our vicinities are so close together, within 45 minutes of each other. It’s not a stretch of the imagination that we could find any one of these people in any location,” Sue Olsen said.

    And though Olsen’s faith remains solid, the terror of not knowing what has happened to her son weighs on her.

    “There is never really closure. But when something is solved you at least know for certain what happened. For us, we don’t know,” Olsen said. “Were they brutally tortured? Were they just beat up and left for dead in the freezing weather? Were they shot and taken somewhere? Were their bodies taken to some other state? You don’t know, and it drives you crazy thinking about all of the possibilities.”

    So instead of dwelling, Olsen is determined to move forward, teaming up with other families of the missing to create a search army. In sharing resources and manpower, Olsen said the odds of finding previously missed clues continue to increase.

    “It’s an uplifting feeling to have them out there intensely looking,” she said.

    On Saturday, the search will resume as Olsen hits the snowy DeKalb streets once more to keep her son’s case alive. Weathered posters will be taken down and fresh ones put in their place. Friends and family of the missing man will turn out, showing the memory of Brad Olsen has far from faded.

    “It hasn’t gotten one bit easier,” Sue Olsen said of the missed birthdays, Christmases and family dinners. “It’s probably gotten harder… but we’re so blessed to have so many people willing to help.”

  82. Sincerely hoping Sue Olsen gets closure soon. The weather still won’t be ideal for a search this weekend but boosting awareness is a great idea.

  83. What’s amazing is that a judge actually accepted the will with Drew having notarized it!

    That judge needs to be investigated too!!!

    I’m hoping that Drew doesn’t go down just for this whole will mess!
    What if that is what they nail him on & not any murder?

    I remember another well known “crook” from Will County & they couldn’t get him on drugs & other bigger crimes, so they got him on arson!

  84. That drives me mad about the notarising his own documents. That does mean that they’re not notarised at all.They do things different in Illinois, I guess.

    I’ve thought that the will could be “genuine” in that he presented it to her fait accompli as they’re leaving on vacation, and files it away under winnings. She will have forgotten about it or DP said he’d destroyed it. The content is all wrong, eg the children’s care.

    It’s the power of attorney that is blatantly wrong. Apart from the poor signiture and self-notarisation, she would not have signed such a thing until the financials were agreed.
    GRACE: According to Savio`s family, there were $3 million at stake in Savio`s estate.

    BRODSKY: Yes, that was the insurance proceeds, which went to the children, not to Drew.

    The $3million ? I hadn’t realised that..I thought it was $1million for her two boys on the insurance that she had already switched to keep out of DP’s paws. The other $2million? So how is it Brodders says DP didn’t inherit anything?

    It sucks to be Carroll.

  85. Family continues search for Bradley Olsen
    By Chronicle Staff

    Family and friends of Bradley Olsen will gather at the intersection of Lincoln Highway and Annie Glidden Road in DeKalb on Saturday to mark two years since his disappearance.

    They will gather there from 1-2 p.m. Saturday and hand out fliers and cards with information about Olsen, according to a news release from the Olsen family. Bradley Olsen went to what was then Bar One with two friends Jan. 19, 2007, but they left before he did, according to police. The 5-foot-8-inch man, with blue eyes and brown hair, hasn’t been seen since leaving the bar around 2:30 a.m. the next morning.

    Bradley Olsen has a tattoo of a palm tree on his left ankle and a tattoo of a sun on his back. He was wearing a brown leather jacket, a black shirt, jeans and boots the night he went missing.

    Anyone with information about Bradley Olsen is asked to call the DeKalb Police Department at 815-748-8400, the DeKalb County Sheriff’s Office at 815-895-2155 or Crime Stoppers at 815-895-3272. Information can be provided anonymously.

  86. They need more stories about us searchers. Now if they would do one about the ones here in Will county. The press can help get more people out to search but that doesnt sell papers does it. It’s lets do stories about everything else except the people who bust there butts lookin for the missin people.

  87. Realsearcher whatever you do in the way of searching is commendable, and, I’m sure, appreciated by those whose loved ones you do search for. You’ll always be special! The quiet warriors.

  88. Did anyone notice this most peculiar story in the middle of the Brad Olsen Still Missing in Dekalb Story:

    On Christmas Day, Verduin, a 56-year-old Wisconsin resident, was involved in a single-vehicle accident on Interstate 88 while driving through Illinois to visit friends. After refusing medical treatment, Verduin was taken to the Best Western Inn & Suites, 1212 W. Lincoln Highway in DeKalb, by a tow truck driver. He checked in — and then disappeared.

    Two days later, Verduin’s family was notified to pick up the man’s belongings at the hotel. Clothes and a cell phone had been left behind. Verduin had never checked out. DeKalb police said no financial activity of any type has been made by Verduin since his disappearance.

    And while they don’t suspect foul play, intense searches are again under way in DeKalb.

  89. I just want to clarify re notarizing of documents that this concerned a Power Of Attorney document and had to do with Drew buying a house for himself and Stacy in 2002.

    It did not involve the will as that document was supposedly witnessed in Drews and Kathleens presence by Drews friends Marcolina and Morelli and as such accepted by the Judge as a valid document.

    As far as the Power of Attorney document Drew has been able to smuggle through the system, that document should have been rejected by the recipient because Drew notarized it himself.

    The document should have been submitted to an independant Notary in order to validate Drews and Kathleens signature.

    Needless to say Drew wasn’t going to have any of that …………

    Re the total of $ 3.000.000 in assets the couple had at the time of their financial settlement, this included Insurance policies, several businesses such as Blue Lightning (Suds Pub), a Printing Co etc. (please see Drews dicky will, he’s listed what was to be at stake)

    For Joel Brodsky to say Drew never benefitted from anything is utter baloney.

  90. Yes, JAH, the whole matter with Kathleen’s Probate Estate is going to be quite troublesome for Peterson. There’s got to be SOMETHING in that whole mess that he is going to be found guilty of fraud, and will cause him future grief and legal problems.

    I saw something yesterday when I was looking at some sites that mentioned he was so angry when he found out Kathleen had changed her beneficiaries to her two sons, he said he did not want to be financially responsible for their college educations. What a guy, heh?

  91. JAH – Yes, this poor man’s whereabouts is mystery:

    Police might expand search for missing man
    By DANA HERRA –
    dherra@daily-chronicle.com

    Police are considering ex­panding the scope of the search for a missing Wisconsin man last seen in DeKalb on Christmas Day.

    The search for 56-year-old James Verduin of Wauwatosa, Wis., has yielded no leads, DeKalb police Lt. Gary Spangler said. Police and Verduin’s family are now talking about reaching out to out-of-area media in the hopes that Verduin is staying with someone outside the local area, Spangler said.

    “We haven’t found anything, and this weather’s put a big stop on any searches outdoors,” he said. “We’re still in contact with the family, trying to come up with any other possibilities of places he might be.”

    Verduin was expected to attend a family gathering Dec. 27, but left a message for the family that he needed some time away by himself, his brother, Bill Verduin, said last week. The family is not sure why he was in the DeKalb area on Christmas Day, when he was involved in a one-car accident on Interstate 88, according to the Illinois State Police.

    After his car crashed into a tollway truss, it was towed from the scene, and the tow truck driver dropped Verduin off at the Best Western DeKalb Inn & Suites, police said.

    Two days later, a hotel employee called Verduin’s family and asked them to pick up his belongings, noting that he had never checked out. The family called police, who searched the area around the hotel that night, police said.

    More extensive ground searches and at least one aerial search have yielded no clues, police said. Nor did a check of area hospitals to see whether Verduin, whom his brother said is diabetic, is receiving any form of treatment. He had refused medical treatment at the scene of the car crash, according to state police.

    Bill Verduin said it’s difficult for the family not knowing where James is.

    “It’s not clear, of course, whether he’s still around DeKalb,” he said Wednesday in a phone interview. “So the question is how best to expand that search, and that’s the conversation we’re having with the police right now.”

    James Verduin, 56, is a white male who is 6 feet 1 inch tall and weighs about 200 pounds, according to DeKalb Police. He has gray hair, blue eyes, wears glasses and was last seen wearing blue pants and either a long tan trench coat or a green parka-style coat.

    Police are asking anyone who has seen or had any contact with Verduin to call 815-748-8400.

  92. rescueapet // January 17, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Yes, JAH, the whole matter with Kathleen’s Probate Estate is going to be quite troublesome for Peterson. There’s got to be SOMETHING in that whole mess that he is going to be found guilty of fraud, and will cause him future grief and legal problems.

    I saw something yesterday when I was looking at some sites that mentioned he was so angry when he found out Kathleen had changed her beneficiaries to her two sons, he said he did not want to be financially responsible for their college educations. What a guy, heh?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As long as Drew has the children (Savio) he has their (Insurance) money.

    It may be in a Trust Fund or whatever, but Drew is a pretty resourceful guy when it comes to getting around these type obstacles.

    Don’t know if he has the same type (Insurance) policies on the Cales children.

    Would be very ballsy if he did, but who knows ……

  93. I think the key to Kathleens murder mystery is in this statement by Sue Doman.

    Just read it very carefully and let it sink in what she is actually saying:

    Savio, according to Doman, said a month before her death that she’d written a new will that would leave everything to her two young sons, now ages 13 and 15.

    “She told me she had a new will. She promised to get me a copy,” Doman said. “She was dead before she could get it to me.”

  94. Verduin was expected to attend a family gathering Dec. 27, but left a message for the family that he needed some time away by himself, his brother, Bill Verduin, said last week. The family is not sure why he was in the DeKalb area on Christmas Day, when he was involved in a one-car accident on Interstate 88, according to the Illinois State Police.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So why was James Verduin in the Dekalb area and why did he need “some time away by himself” ?

  95. Here’s what I came across yesterday; source: The Prairie Chicken:

    The day the judge accepted the will, James B Carrol, Drew’s uncle, fired her attorney, Harry Smith and settled the estate by giving all the assets to Drew, explaining that the boys had the $1million dollar life insurance policy, so he made the decision to give Drew the rest of her estate.

    Drew was so angry that Kathleen had changed her life insurance beneficiaries to her sons, he not only stole the 287+K from his own sons, but he stipulated in HER estate settlement that he will not be responsible for those two children’s college educations. I have never heard of such a thing. He’s probably excluded them from his own estate because of it.

  96. I’ve heard a nasty rumor that Drew has the teens sign over checks to him for his personal use.

    I would be interested to know how much of the money Kathleen left to her boys is still left for her boys.

  97. Hi Noway – haven’t seen you in a while.

    Well, there may not be charges yet in the Kathleen/Stacy death/disappearance cases, but there’s bound to be plenty of accusations flying if and when the Probate Estate of Kathleen is back in the forefront. Lots of explaining to do as to why the Estate was handled the way it was, and how a divorced woman’s marital assets wound up with the person she most likely despised more than anyone in the world. That should be interesting.

  98. rescueapet // January 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Here’s what I came across yesterday; source: The Prairie Chicken:

    The day the judge accepted the will, James B Carrol, Drew’s uncle, fired her attorney, Harry Smith and settled the estate by giving all the assets to Drew, explaining that the boys had the $1million dollar life insurance policy, so he made the decision to give Drew the rest of her estate.

    Drew was so angry that Kathleen had changed her life insurance beneficiaries to her sons, he not only stole the 287+K from his own sons, but he stipulated in HER estate settlement that he will not be responsible for those two children’s college educations. I have never heard of such a thing. He’s probably excluded them from his own estate because of it.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes, it all starts to make sense doesn’t it !

    Kathleen also begged her family to “look after her boys” if something happened to her.

    She made good on that plea by changing the $ 1.000.000 life insurance beneficiary from Drew to her sons, thereby assuring the boys would go to the Savio family and their future would be provided for.

    Just imagine how livid that must have made Drew, that Katherine would have one over him like that and he would see a million dollars walk out the door (!!)

    Did I hear someone say Kathleen was severely beaten before she was killed ??

  99. Good thing Drew is “engaged”.

    He will need a shoulder to cry on when the Estate matters start to unravel !

  100. JAH, I think it was Baden who first said Kathleen was beaten before being killed. Until then, her bruises were written off as being the result of her active and athletic lifestyle.

    BADEN: Even initially, there was enough information that it was a homicide because of the fact that she was an adult, healthy, hadn’t been drinking or anything, found dead in a bathtub. It does not happen accidentally. No history of seizures or illness. [b]And in addition, there were indications then of multiple blunt force traumas, of being beaten up. And one of the things we were able to look at today is those bruises were still there, and we could see with the naked eye that they were fresh.[/b]

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312208,00.html

  101. And in addition, there were indications then of multiple blunt force traumas, of being beaten up. And one of the things we were able to look at today is those bruises were still there, and we could see with the naked eye that they were fresh.

  102. This August article, which, by the way, was one of the most in-depth I’ve seen about the Savio investigation, was full of interesting facts.

    By Erika Slife and Matthew Walberg
    August 18, 2008

    When Kathleen Savio’s lifeless body was discovered in the empty bathtub of her Bolingbrook home in 2004, state police immediately decided her death was not suspicious, a Will County deputy coroner’s report obtained by the Tribune shows.

    The investigators and experts re-examining her death as a possible murder are now asking how police could have been so quick to overlook signs that something sinister may have happened to the third wife of Drew Peterson, then a sergeant for the Bolingbrook Police Department.

    They are suspicious about the absence of blood residue or a sediment ring on the walls of the tub where she was found, sources said. If she had bled from a head wound while drowning in slowly draining water—as the theory went—why was the tub not stained?

    No towels or clothes were in the bathroom where she was discovered, a paramedic noted. Shampoo bottles were in upright positions along the small tub, unlikely if she had suffered a fall, according to a source. Books and papers were spread across her unmade bed and a picture was facedown on the floor near the nightstand, according to Illinois State Police reports also obtained by the Tribune.

    Although a state police crime-scene technician had covered Savio’s hands with bags to preserve evidence—a procedure that typically precedes a homicide investigation—the statements of police that night indicated no evidence of trauma or foul play, according to the deputy coroner’s report.

    An autopsy would show a 40-year-old woman in good health had drowned. A coroner’s jury ruled her death an accident after a state police special agent testified Savio had probably fallen, hit her head and drowned in the water before it leaked out the drain.

    But the case was reopened in November after Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy, then 23, disappeared Oct. 28. Authorities named Peterson the prime suspect in her disappearance, and in February, State’s Atty. James Glasgow called the Savio inquiry a murder investigation after a second autopsy indicated her death was a homicide. Glasgow said it appeared the scene was staged to look like an accidental drowning.

    Peterson, 54, has not been named a suspect in Savio’s case. He has denied any wrongdoing.

    The police reports confirm speculation that Stacy Peterson gave him his principal alibi for his whereabouts in the days before Savio was discovered. The reports also show he was walking around the scene before state police arrived. At one point, he was alone in the bathroom with Savio’s body and told emergency responders, “This is my ex-wife. Treat the scene with respect.”

    According to a report from that night, Deputy Coroner Mike VanOver asked Robert Deel, a crime scene technician for the state police, and “detectives if there was any reason to believe that this was a traumatic death and they stated NO, therefore the homicide/suspicious death protocol was not followed.”

    VanOver wrote in his report that he had notified his superiors that “the protocol was not being followed … because it was felt at that time by all parties that there were not signs of foul play or trauma for this death investigation.”

    Only a streak of blood was found in the tub, according to VanOver’s report, police documents and testimony by the state police special agent at the coroner’s inquest.

    State police Lt. Scott Compton declined to comment on why his agency’s technicians and investigators concluded the death was not suspicious, noting that crime-scene technicians “make observations and document those observations as part of their investigation and processing of a crime scene.” He declined to comment further.

    In an interview with the Tribune, VanOver said he was following the direction of state police. The coroner’s office has been under fire for its role in Savio’s investigation. On Monday, the Republican-controlled Will County Board will consider putting a referendum measure on the November ballot asking voters whether the elected coroner, now Democrat Patrick O’Neil, should be replaced by an appointed medical examiner.

    “When they bagged the hands, that was when I asked the question, you know, ‘Do you think anything is out of whack here?’ ” VanOver said. “Bob Deel was asked by me if he thought there was anything hinky here, and stuff like that, and if we should be doing something different, and I was told no.”

    Deel could not be reached for comment.

    Savio’s body was found March 1, 2004, in a semifetal position on her left side, according to the reports. Neighbors discovered the body after Peterson contacted them because he couldn’t get ahold of her to drop off their two children from a weekend visit. About 10:40 p.m., a locksmith let them into Savio’s home, and Peterson waited outside while neighbors went into the house. He rushed inside after one of them screamed.

    Illinois State Police arrived about midnight, after Bolingbrook police called them.

    Police interviewed Stacy Peterson for one hour March 3. She said she and her husband had spent the weekend with the children, backing up Peterson’s statements made to police a day earlier. She said they had spent Saturday hanging around the house and had gone to the Shedd Aquarium Sunday. The only time Peterson left was Sunday morning to get doughnuts and to go to work Sunday evening. Savio was found the next day, a Monday.

    Peterson told police during his 65-minute interview that his divorce from Savio was “difficult at times,” but that their “relationship had gotten a lot better” after he married Stacy.

    Savio’s relatives, who were never convinced she died in an accidental drowning, said police ignored their suspicions. For one thing, said Savio’s older sister, Anna Doman, her body was found with short fingernails.

    “It looked like somebody had cut her nails. She always let her nails grow; she was into that natural, long nail,” Doman said.

    Doman said no one in her family was interviewed by state police. She said authorities ignored her request to look through a suitcase full of documents Savio had saved regarding her ongoing fight with Peterson.

    Savio’s body was found weeks before their divorce’s financial settlement was to be finalized.

    “We tried to get somebody to at least look, investigate,” Doman said. “Nothing, nothing, nothing.”

    eslife@tribune.com

    mwalberg@tribune.com

  103. noway406 // January 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    I’ve heard a nasty rumor that Drew has the teens sign over checks to him for his personal use.

    I would be interested to know how much of the money Kathleen left to her boys is still left for her boys.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Good question !

    Didn’t Cassandra say at one stage Stacy and Drew had access to that money and could draw on the account ?

  104. JAH said ~ Didn’t Cassandra say at one stage Stacy and Drew had access to that money and could draw on the account ?

    *******

    No matter how you look at it, even though Peterson’s uncle, John Carroll, was appointed as the executor of the Will, he was still an attorney and he still should have looked out for the best interests of the children, no matter what. What in heaven’s name did Peterson do to have half of Will County drop at his feet and do whatever he wished? It’s absolutely mind boggling what this man was able to accomplish over the years, and even now, for heaven’s sake.

    As an example of now, if Raines wants to live with Peterson and put herself up as offering for the crazed jerk she moved in with, fine, but if the kids’ father can’t get those kids out of that environment and/or DCFS doesn’t step in, and get those kids out of there, something is terribly wrong! How long can this go on that a lunatic can control the lives of so many?

  105. I suppose since they haven’t removed his own kids, they won’t be removing Chrissy’s either.

    And regarding the executor, John Carroll, where is he these days?

  106. As an example of now, if Raines wants to live with Peterson and put herself up as offering for the crazed jerk she moved in with, fine, but if the kids’ father can’t get those kids out of that environment and/or DCFS doesn’t step in, and get those kids out of there, something is terribly wrong! How long can this go on that a lunatic can control the lives of so many?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    To be honest with you, I think nothing can be done about Christina Raines’s children living at Drews house, as no matter what, Drew lives under the presumption of innocense and has never been charged with anything so there is no reason to take any children away from there, including his own children.

    I can’t even see how the children’s natural father can get those kids out of there as on what grounds would he be able to do so ?

    His children haven’t been abducted as Christina took them there herself and they were already been living with Christina prior to them moving in with Drew, they weren’t with their natural father in the first place, so how would he suddenly be able to get custody (?)

    There are no grounds for DCFS to step in either as there is no law against stupidity and BBPD can’t do anything either as Christina is an adult (!) and moved there with her children on her own accord.

    It is a horrible stale mate, but that’s how things are to date.

  107. noway406 // January 17, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I suppose since they haven’t removed his own kids, they won’t be removing Chrissy’s either.

    And regarding the executor, John Carroll, where is he these days?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wasn’t he removed by the new executors of the Savio Estate ?

  108. Yeah, JAH, but I believe that anyone can contact DCFS and ask that an investigation be started as to who is responsible for those little people when their mother is away from the home. We’ve all heard that the young teens are the caretakers when their father is whoring around the bars. Is it right that this ditz is putting her children, in the care of two young teens? Unless Peterson chains himself to the house when his pet is away, there’s now four small children to be supervised by two teens.

    I’m not, by any means, saying here that Tom or Kris are irresponsible kids, but, let’s face it, long periods of no adult supervision is asking for trouble, isn’t it?

    Can you imagine the outrage if something did happen to those kids while the “adults” were away and they were left in the care of Peterson’s young teens, or they were caught up in a domestic situation between those two idiots?

  109. I might add, are Peterson and his pet going to hole up in that house forever, never to go out together? Again, if so, that leaves four small children to be in the care of someone, and damn if it isn’t a shame that those two older kids are yet burdened with two more small kids. Aren’t four small kids a handful for any parent, let alone a teen, or possibly two?

    Argh!!!!!!!!!!!

  110. rescueapet // January 17, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Yeah, JAH, but I believe that anyone can contact DCFS and ask that an investigation be started as to who is responsible for those little people when their mother is away from the home. We’ve all heard that the young teens are the caretakers when their father is whoring around the bars. Is it right that this ditz is putting her children, in the care of two young teens? Unless Peterson chains himself to the house when his pet is away, there’s now four small children to be supervised by two teens.

    I’m not, by any means, saying here that Tom or Kris are irresponsible kids, but, let’s face it, long periods of no adult supervision is asking for trouble, isn’t it?

    Can you imagine the outrage if something did happen to those kids while the “adults” were away and they were left in the care of Peterson’s young teens, or they were caught up in a domestic situation between those two idiots?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I hear you rescueapet, but I believe the two older boys are at an age they are legally able to be left to care for younger children (!)

    My guess is the phones at DCFS have been ringing hot about Drews situation for ages and probably more so since Christina moved in with her children, but their hands are tied as there is no law against their father being a 55 year old lush and their mother being a 24 year old bird brain (!)

  111. Oh, I think I just insulted myself there by calling someone a “bird brain”

    Of course hens are an intelligent bird species !!

    LOL

  112. I’m sure Peterson passed along his uncanny ability at calling 911 for help, should the need arise.

    After all, he’s a good one for doing that lately, such as when his sister-in-law was trying to hug her little nephew, or Lenny encountered him in a parking lot. Coward that he is.

  113. My guess is Drew won’t be out and about much with Christina now that she’s moved in with him.

    I think she’d be intended as a glorified babysitter to all these children, just like young Stacy was to the Savio children and Drew just keeps doing what he has been doing for the last 30 years as sure as eggs no amount of wives or children are ever going to cramp his life style (!)

  114. justanotherhen // January 17, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    noway406 // January 17, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I suppose since they haven’t removed his own kids, they won’t be removing Chrissy’s either.

    And regarding the executor, John Carroll, where is he these days?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wasn’t he removed by the new executors of the Savio Estate ?
    _____________
    I don’t know if he was removed.

    Did he appear before the GJ? I’ll have to go check that list Bash made 100 years ago.

  115. Here you are noway, some info on John Carroll and the Savio Estate – the motion to have John Carroll removed as executor.

    Please note Joel Brodsky’s dim witted comment at the end !

    Next court date set for Savio estate hearing
    March 18, 2008 · 1 Comment
    By Danya Hooker

    dhooker@mysuburbanlife.com

    A Will County judge will hear the first arguments on a petition to re-open Kathleen Savio’s estate during a hearing next month.

    Five of Savio’s relatives filed a joint petition Monday to re-open the estate in preparation for a wrongful death lawsuit against her ex-husband Drew Peterson, according to Lawrence Varsek, an attorney for two of Savio’s siblings.

    “They (the family) have a lot of questions,” Varsek said. “They’re not satisfied with the previous answers and we need the authority of this court to find the answers.”

    Peterson attorney Joel Brodsky, in turn, filed a seven-page response to the petition, asking that it be thrown out because the two-year statute of limitations on filing a wrongful death lawsuit has passed.

    But John Q. Kelly, a high-profile New York-based attorney for Savio’s siblings Anna Marie Doman and Henry M. Savio, said the statute of limitations can be extended under certain circumstances.

    A Will County judge accepted both filings and scheduled a hearing for April 17.

    Varsek filed the first petition Jan. 31 on behalf of Doman and Henry Savio. It asked the court to re-open the estate and to name the siblings co-executors in place of the current executor James B. Carroll, Drew Peterson’s uncle.

    The motion argues that Carroll, as a relative of Peterson’s, did not have Savio’s interests in mind when carrying out her estate.

    The petition also specifically requested that the court not give power to Savio’s other relatives, specifically to her father Henry J. Savio.

    Two weeks later, Martin Glink, an attorney for Savio’s father and sister Susan Doman, filed a petition seeking to re-open the estate and have them be named its executors.
    The petition filed Monday is a joint request on behalf of all four of the relatives and Savio’s half-brother Nicholas Savio.

    “We each knew of each other and we decided it would be more effective to work together,” Glink said.

    All proceeds from the estate, if there are any, will go to benefit Savio and Peterson’s two teenage sons.

    Brodsky said the sons are already the beneficiaries of Savio’s estate and that the petition is baseless.

    Brodsky’s response also asks the court to order the petitioners to pay the legal fees if the case is thrown out.

    Categories: All · Kathleen Savio · Peterson news (general)

  116. And here you are noway, the removal of the executor John Carroll as executor of the Savio Estate, etc as per April 17, 2008.

    On Thursday, April 17, a Will County judge ordered Savio’s estate reopened, paving the way for her family to prepare for a possible wrongful death lawsuit against Drew Peterson. The judge also appointed an attorney to represent Peterson and Savio’s two teenage sons for the estate hearings. The boys are the main beneficiaries of Savio’s estate. Brodsky asked the judge to appoint the attorney to ensure that any legal action taken by Savio’s family are in the best interest of the children. The judge’s order removed Peterson’s uncle James Carroll as executor of the estate and appointed Savio’s father, Henry, and sister Anna Doman as executors.

  117. What I don’t understand about all this Estate wrangling:

    Why was Drews Uncle executor of Kathleens Estate in the first place, whose idea was that ?

    How was it possible for Drews Uncle to SACK
    Kathleens lawyer, how does that work ?

    It appears from the above Kathleens Estate was completely in control by Drew via his Uncle, especially when Kathleens lawyer was out of the way.

    How come Kathleens Estate was never controlled by any of her family until now (after all the money and property went Drews way from the start)

    What a travesty of Justice !

  118. According to Drew they chose Uncle Carroll because she didn’t trust her family. According to Drew.

    It is the particular circumstances that she should die before the financial settlement that should have caused the judge to look closely. He obviously didn’t.

  119. I am patiently awaiting for what Alex Morelli has to say now that he is no longer a bff with Peterson. He was a witness to that Will, went into Court a year after it was found, I believe, to testify that he did, in fact witness that Will, and now claims Peterson has turned his whole world upside down and has nothing good to say about him.

  120. From acandyrose.com

    DREW PETERSON: “I wrote up the will with Kathleen’s instructions and we simply had a couple friends that were over to witness it and that was that simple.”

    CRAIG WALL (Voice Over): “Those friends turned out to be Peterson’s former partners, in the Bolingbrook Police Department and according to the Savio family, Drew’s best man at their wedding. Alex Morelli, Drew’s former partner says he wants nothing more to do with Drew and has nothing positive to say about him. He said Drew has turned his world upside down. Best man, Gary Marcolina took off when we tied to talk to him. The old Will names James B. Carrol, Drew’s Uncle, names him executor and gives him full control. He confirmed the account that he was going on vacation but declined to comment further. Once the Will was admitted into court, Carrol promptly fired Kathleen’s attorney and discharged another lawyer appointed by the court to watch out for the best interest of the children. So Mr. Carrol had an obligation not to be looking out for Drew but to look out for Kathleen.”

  121. Hey everyone, if you want to see a REAL hero on GMA for a change, instead of a s media hungry, suspected murderer, watch tomorrow morning. Matt Lauer is going to knock the misfit, Drew Peterson, off the news for a while, to interview the captain of the Hudson plane landing.

    Now, that is worth watching! A MAN who saves lives, not takes them.

  122. Mark your calendars!

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 1 14 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL 2 Pretrial

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 1 14 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 3 Pretrial

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 1 14 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL 1 Pretrial

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 1 14 9 900 04F 000340 Motions

  123. LOL, it’s because you’re so perplexed how this guy’s legal woes can remain on a court docket soooooooooo long without getting resolved. He’s another teflon man, heh? Stuff just bounced off of him.

  124. Another coward that picks on and beats up women. I wish he and his cohort would wind up together in an unpadded cell so they can beat the bejeevers out of each other for a change, and leave the female population alone.

  125. Robinson must of been getting continuances most of this time. Maybe for lack of legal counsel. Now it appears since December hes probably obtained legal counsels and his lawyer has filed motions and the judge has ruled or is ruling on them. It takes awhile for the cases to update, but I suspect that if the victims want to proceed this should move on to trial now unless there are more motions to go through.

  126. Geesh, since he’s such good friends with the Drewpmeister, and since he’s been there for him since the day Stacy disappeared, I think it’s a rotten shame that Drewp didn’t release some of those web-solicited fdefense unds he collected to the Brodskers to help defend his buddy.

    Or, will the Brodskers come out later and say he “suspected” Robinson to be working for the cops, like he claims he suspected Lenny, after the fact?

    Stay tuned.

  127. rescueapet // January 18, 2009 at 10:28 am

    From acandyrose.com

    DREW PETERSON: “I wrote up the will with Kathleen’s instructions and we simply had a couple friends that were over to witness it and that was that simple.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thank you rescueapet !

    And here is Drew claiming he wrote the will with Kathleens instructions (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    Kathleen made him sit down and told him what to write.

  128. IMO, Kathleen’s “old” Will was out of her sight, out of her mind. She told her divorce attorney she did not have a Will at the time she was going through her divorce, etc. That Will was most likely in the hands of Peterson all along.

    Once she was in the process of completing her divorce and settlement, she began getting her legal/financial plans in order, changing insurance policies to name her sons as beneficiaries. It is also likely and possible that she did have a new Will in her home, and Peterson knew where to find and destory it.

    What I am wondering is, is there an attorney that drew up her new Will, because, if so, the attorneys keep a copy in their files. I am somewhat surprised that, to date, no one has come forward to say they helped her with a new Will and know that she did, in fact, create one.

  129. The way this whole Estate matter was handled previously is like it was Drews Estate instead of Kathleens.

    Everything and anything has been handled and decided on Drews behalf and to Drews benefit and advantage.

    Not only has this woman been robbed of her life and utterly disrespected as a victim, she has been robbed of her Estate and posessions as well.

    I can hardly believe what I’m reading …..

  130. Once she was in the process of completing her divorce and settlement, she began getting her legal/financial plans in order, changing insurance policies to name her sons as beneficiaries. It is also likely and possible that she did have a new Will in her home, and Peterson knew where to find and destory it.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes rescueapet, that is what her sister Anna Doman was implying too, that Kathleen had made a new will, but before she could give a copy to her sister she was already dead !

    It stands to reason Drew found out about this new will and it infuriated him to see Kathleen had changed the beneficiaries on the million dollar Insurance policy from himself to the two boys as that would significantly reduce his grab and run booty.

    People have been killed for a loss less than a million dollar Insurance pay out.

    I am just saying !

  131. JAH – but WHO helped her draw up a new Will, that’s the $10,000 question. Why didn’t some attorney come forward with that information at the time? Could it be that it has since been discovered that there was a new Will? Who knows?

    Maybe Morelli was confronted at the GJ hearing this time and maybe he admitted that the Will he witnessed and the Will that was admitted in Court aren’t the same.

    Drew’s first attorney, the one he dropped like a hot potato when he was told to keep his mouth shut is also a Morelli. Maybe he’s Alex’s brother, I don’t know, but I’m sure he’s getting plenty of legal advice now.

  132. rescueapet
    What I am wondering is, is there an attorney that drew up her new Will, because, if so, the attorneys keep a copy in their files. I am somewhat surprised that, to date, no one has come forward to say they helped her with a new Will and know that she did, in fact, create one.

    * * * *
    This has puzzled me, too. I would have expected her to draw up the new will with her lawyer. Maybe she hadn’t actually carried it through yet?

  133. Bucket – Obviously, it wasn’t Atty Smith that helped her draw up a new Will, so did she hand write a new one, or sit down with pen in hand and state her wishes?

    Her sister specifically said she had a new Will and would be giving her a copy. Again, it’s puzzling, because the first thing I’d want to know is what attorney drew up the Will.

    Her family obviously wasn’t able to go through her things before Drew got at her personal papers and belongings, so we all can imagine how that played out. Well, um, it did play out – he got it all.

  134. rescueapet // January 18, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    JAH – but WHO helped her draw up a new Will, that’s the $10,000 question. Why didn’t some attorney come forward with that information at the time? Could it be that it has since been discovered that there was a new Will? Who knows?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I know rescue, that is the 10.000 dollar question.

    It is puzzling why a woman under siege for so long would not have a will deposited with her attorney as it is obvious the will she wrote a month before her death never saw the light of day, unless they are keeping this quiet as part of the investigation (??).

  135. Wonder if Kathleen had a computer? Since she was just about through a nursing program, it would be logical that she did have a computer for papers she had to do for school, and research. Not to mention using it for personal data.

    Where did that computer wind up? Wouldn’t it be logical for Drew to bring it to his home for his young boys to use? Since she died in 2004 and it was in 2007 that the second round of horror began in the life of Drew Peterson, maybe that computer was still available. I sure hope so!

    They say most any data can be recovered from a computer, whether you think it’s been erased or not.

  136. rescueapet // January 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Wonder if Kathleen had a computer? Since she was just about through a nursing program, it would be logical that she did have a computer for papers she had to do for school, and research. Not to mention using it for personal data.

    Where did that computer wind up? Wouldn’t it be logical for Drew to bring it to his home for his young boys to use? Since she died in 2004 and it was in 2007 that the second round of horror began in the life of Drew Peterson, maybe that computer was still available. I sure hope so!

    They say most any data can be recovered from a computer, whether you think it’s been erased or not.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I believe ISP took 6 or 7 computers from Drews house (and this whilst Drew was exclaiming he isn’t very computer literate ) not long after Stacy disappeared.

    Maybe one of them was Kathleens old computer.

    One can only hope ……

  137. Here you are rescue:

    5 computers in total !

    Police seized the items–11 guns, two laptops, three desktop computers, and two vehicles–during a Nov. 1 search warrant execution. Police have called Peterson a suspect in his fourth wife Stacy’s Oct. 28 disappearance, which is being treated as a “possible homicide.”

  138. Thanks, JAH! Five computers – then it makes sense that one of them could have come from Kathleen’s house. Only, now what’s on it is worthy of looking at, since it wasn’t at the time of her death. Very interesting!!!

  139. In another article it stated ISP took the hard drives from the PC’s for investigation and gave Drew Peterson the PC’s back with copied hard drives as instructed by the Judge, providing Drew Peterson would not query or question the validity of this decision.

  140. rescueapet // January 18, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    One HAS to be Kathleen’s. Say it’s so.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Considering he robbed her of everything else and cleared the house out whilst the family was at Kathleens wake, I’d say the chances are pretty good he taken her computer as another trophy as well.

  141. Sorry for the confusion above … “John” Carroll should have been James . . .

    Apparently that’s what is keeping me from sleeping. 🙄

  142. JAH, This whole James Carroll thing is keeping me from sleeping, and not just because I typed John instead of James.

    James as Executor would have had to sign any checks, right? (Or did he set it up so Drew and/or Stacy could access the account?)

    IIRC, Drew recently said the proceeds from Kathleen’s life insurance were in an account for her boys ‘for when they were older’ … I wonder if they have been able to access it at all.

    I know a friend who was left a trust by his deceased father. Although the trust was set up so he would get it at a certain age, he could make requests for funds for legitimate reasons (the executor determined whether the reasons were valid).

    With all my wondering, I am now thinking of WonderWoman … and hoping her foot is healing.

  143. mmmmm Kathleen’s computer mmmm.

    Since the suspect has copies of the hard drives, the defense will have the same potential information…..but maybe they haven’t looked. I think that kind of analysis of a computer hard drive, searching out everything, probably costs a mint to have done. Betcha DP wouldn’t be comfortable with even his defense seeing that…who knows what he thinks he has erased over recent years?

    The boys’ trust fund: it would be so like a Drew type to tell the boys that the $1m is theirs, but he is allowed the interest.

    ….and we know by now that when Drew says something was someone else’s idea, like Kitty telling him to sit down and write what she says, that’ll definitely be a lie.

  144. I was just rereading the story from March and am reminded that re-opening the estate of Kathleen Savio is part of the preparation for going after the wrongful death suit against Drew.

  145. If the Will of Kathleen and Drew is put back under the microscope for all to see now, I wonder what the witnesses to that Will are going to testify to now? Does Drew even know what they’re going to say? He and Morelli do not speak. Why is Morelli now claiming he has nothing good to say about his old buddy, and that his world has been turned upside down because of him? Certainly it must pertain to the Will issue, since I doubt that Morelli was in on Stacy’s disappearance. Merely being called before the GJ investigating the death and subsequent Probate Estate of Kathleen can’t be life changing unless it uncovered false or inaccurate testimony that occurred during the Probate proceedings.

  146. Afternoon everyone, sorry to hear about your insomnia Noway, been there, done that many a time. Hey Rescue, how are you ? I am just taking it easy or trying to. Going to be a long to recovery I am told 😦

    I wonder…..When oh when will the GJ wrap things up ?

    I wonder….Will SP and LS ever be found ?

    I wonder….Why is this taking so long ?

    I wonder….Am I the only impatient one here ?

  147. Hey wonder! I’m impatient as well. I wonder if there will ever be justice.

    Tomorrow would have been Stacy’s 25th birthday.

  148. OK, off -topic but this gallery of celebrities meeting President-Elect Obama just rocks.

    When Stars Themselves Get Starstruck

    “Celebrities are used to being gawked at, but yesterday, following the inaugural celebration “We Are One” at the Lincoln Memorial, performers got starry-eyed themselves when meeting the president-elect, as seen in the gallery below. “

  149. I agree, Chrissy Raines is just a glorified babysitter to now six children… not including Drew! I’m sure all part of his scheme to have his kids looked after for free, while he’s spending his never-ending days sitting through two lengthy murder trails. Not only that, she’ll have no access to any major assets financially after his arrest, certainly not that retirement pension. So for him it’s win/win… with a little sexual self gratification tossed into the deal.

    As for Mike Robinson, he’s got at least four more felonies to add to that ever-increasing rap sheet of his. His mother should be so proud!

  150. Wonder – sorry it’s a long road ahead, but hope you have a full recovery.

    I am impatient as well. Although, I think that the Probate Estate will be interesting to follow. I’m sure there’s going to be a lot of twists and turns.

    WKELOL – Not exactly romance and fairy tales coming from the Peterson mansion, heh? Sounds kinky and stinky to me.

  151. Hi Facs, how are you ?

    Well it is good to know that I am not the only impatient one.

    Rescue, that is hysterical…Kinky and Stinky
    lol I am going to have to remember that one !
    Thanks for the WONDERFUL LOL !

    The probate court should be interesting, but I am not holding my breath…

    I wonder….Will the probate, will,wrongful death turn into just another cluster with no justice for
    Kathleen ?

    I wonder…When is LE going to finally put this crook behind bars ?

    I wonder….How long will it probate case take to run through the c0urt system there where we all know how FAST things get done around KILL COUNTY !

    Okay, I think it is time for my meds again.

  152. That’s it I am out of here.

    I wonder…Does anyone else think it is time for
    me to go back to bed ?

    And to think all this time I did not think these meds were that WONDERFUL…but I was
    wrong. Have a wonderful night everyone…off to bed I go.

  153. My guess is the Probate and Estate matters going before the Courts in a few days time will establish with certainty the person to purposely and fraudulently gain and benefit most from Kathleens death and other legal matters will flow from there.

    It’s the snow drift to start the avalanche !

  154. Good Morning All!

    http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case

    Rory O’Neil with Westwood One appeared on the Nancy Grace show on Monday asserting Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, may be up to no good.

    Casey is charged with the murder of her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.

    According to O’Neil, Baez is rumored to be seeking an entertainment deal contingent on the outcome of Anthony’s case. O’Neil stated this behavior is strictly prohibited by the Florida State Bar. If the allegations are true, this would be an enormous conflict of interest regarding the case.

    * * * * *

    No, not exactly OT. This bothered me from the very beginning with Brodsky. That’s got to be a conflict of interest if you’re already crowing about writing books, finding fame and fortune through this client’s victims.

    It won’t matter whether he wins or not….in fact, it’s probably even better if he loses, with all the evil proven. I don’t think, however, that DP could cry conflict of interest for a retrial or anything like that, because it’s not a secret, is it?

  155. Weknoweverythinglol
    I agree, Chrissy Raines is just a glorified babysitter to now six children… not including Drew! I’m sure all part of his scheme to have his kids looked after for free, while he’s spending his never-ending days sitting through two lengthy murder trails. Not only that, she’ll have no access to any major assets financially after his arrest, certainly not that retirement pension. So for him it’s win/win… with a little sexual self gratification tossed into the deal.

    * * * * *
    I could smell this, too, wkelol. What a shame if he can’t marry her…he would if he could. (YEAH, RIGHT)Instead he can use the widely practiced nowadays never-ending engagement. It looks a bit like commitment, but doesn’t give her any rights.

    If there’s any hope of him coming out the other side free, I think he’d only marry again if he “had” to.

  156. bucket,

    Very well said. Hopefully sooner than later.

    All,

    Today is Stacy’s 25th birthday. How about we all say a prayer for her and that she will be found very soon and justice wil be served. If you go over to the Hang Drew site, one of the searchers put together a beautiful video tribute.

    Happy Birthday Stacy!

  157. Hiya whitey!

    Thought you might be along soon….

    I saw the vid at Hang Drew’s. I hold hands with all of you to wish for peace and resolution for Stacy and all of her family and friends. Her birthday is still important because she is still so important and always will be.

  158. Bucket,

    HI!

    Re:the new baby sitter, guessing son Steven is too busy and brother Paul and wife maybe as well.

    Take Care and Have a Great Day. It’s off to work for me.

  159. Happy 25th Birthday, Stacy.

    My prayers go out to her children, family, and loved ones. I hope that somehow she is found or comes forward soon so the nightmare of not knowing what happened to her comes to an end and healing can begin.

  160. It seems strange to wish a “Happy” Birthday to Stacy. It doesn’t feel right for me because I can’t imagine she could be happy knowing that her family is still without answers, she herself without justice and that her children are being shaken “like a box full of baseball cards” in a household of strangers until they find their spot.

    I’ll observe Stacy’s birthday today and keep it in my heart.

  161. Oh, no offense meant TAI!

    “Happy Birthday” would be the customary way to observe – obviously you meant nothing other than good wishes. I just couldn’t write it without a twinge.

  162. Truth be told I had the twinge when I posted it but wasn’t sure what other way to say it.

    God – I wish these kids can find out what happened to her. I don’t even know her and it hurts to know that another birthday has gone by with no signs of her.

  163. What ever did Stacy or Kathleen do to anyone to deserve the abrupt end to their lives, and to not be able to enjoy the birthdays of their children in years to come, or any signficant event in the lives of their children?

    Birthdays for these two women will have to serve as reminders to their supporters to push for answers as to what happened to them, and hold law enforcement’s feet to the fire until the mysteries of their fates are resolved. Hope that the monster that is suspected of doing harm to them doesn’t skirt and twist the laws in his favor, and that he’ll pay for what he did spending HIS birthdays in a dark, dank lonely cell.

    JMHO.

  164. I worried too much about people being cold. It’s always that way for me…outdoors…January. Brrrr. Takes the zing out of it.

    I’m sure the parties will be fun.

  165. Inaugural notes from Wales:

    This afternoon a young friend of mine took a phone call from her mother, who is a primry school teacher. “You must turn on the television at 4:00” Why? she wanted to know. It seems her mum held the phone up towards the children and asked them why she should turn on the tv, and they all shouted “Because it’s history in the making!”

    I drove past the Institute for the Blind, and they had a banner in front declaring “Yes we can too”

  166. I did get a bad headache during the ball coverage and had to go to bed. I think I heard “At Last” too many times and got an overload of déjà vu.

  167. I went out to dinner with some friends last night so only watched portions of the inaugural balls. I love that song and thankfully I haven’t watched enough replays of it to get sick of it.

    Something weird happened at dinner though. While we were eating our desert, the waiter came over to a big table behind us that had about 10 people there. They started singing happy birthday and the girl’s name was Stacy. Swear to God – I had to look but it was not her. Kind of freaked me out and made me sad for her kids at the same time.

  168. Oh, Ick.

    Do you think maybe it was supposed to be like a ‘kiss’ – something mom would leave behind?

    God, that’s disturbing to think about.

  169. Bucket – I think a new thread would be good as well or it would be helpful if this one was added to the main page like they usually are.

  170. Facs – I am totally disturbed by this piece of information. I hav eno idea what it would be for but I cannot see a stranger or babysitter doing that to a child. The defense needs to start sayin git was an accident and start looking for a deal so this baby can be laid to rest instead of letting it drag out while they keep the body in a box in case they need to try to disprove something the prosecution is claiming.

    Poor baby Caylee. 😦

  171. That would be great, Think. Maybe Casey will somehow be inspired to confess. I fear her counsellor Baez is in no hurry.

  172. Just wanted to say… it’s nice to have people who care- coming all the way from Wales (and I’m not saying this because I am 50% Welsh!) Bucketoftea’s sentiments from across the pond are appreciated… that is all.

    Regarding Stacy’s 25th Birthday… the video on Hang Drew’s site is lovely. Please take time to watch it, if you get the chance. The Chicago background music (Searching…) especially made me cry.

    Here’s to hoping for resolution in this case in the new year!

  173. LOL weknoweverythinglol is a closet Taffy! Who knew?lol

    As an expat Amurrican I enjoy it, too. It matters to the whole world.

  174. Straight away in the first line of the will, the year. I am not a graphologist, but it looks to me that the 97 my have been added later within a space left, or at least there looks to have been a hesitation. The ink itself looks a bit different to me, can’t put my finger on that bit, but the second 9 is smaller, straighter. Smaller to be sure it will fit the space? More carefully formed? It just doesn’t look fluid.

  175. FYI – For those that missed the Glasgow interview that was on WBBM780 New Radio on 1/4/2009, it’s available on their website now.

    He really doesn’t discuss much in detail about the Peterson cases. When he was questioned as to the progress, he defers to the ISP. The information/evidence collected is enormous and overwhelming, and he alluded to LE being overtaxed. I believe he said there were 22 murders that were being processed prior to the Lane Bryant murders. He said the biggest problem they have is manpower (law enforcement).

    When asked if Drew Peterson is still the suspect in Stacy’s disappearance, he defers to to the State Police. Someone in his office works with each group of law enforcement officials that is investigating a specific crime, and his office lends legal advice as to what is and is not a proper way to proceed. He said “we both bring different disciplines to the table.” As was already mentioned prior to this interview, he said the GJ is still going to be meeting, and this includes investigating Stebic.

    When asked about the public’s eagerness to see some of these high profile crimes solved, he responsed that people should be patient. He implies things are getting done properly, but it takes time. Evidence in these various crimes was collected quickly and properly, but it all must be gone through methodically.

    He discusses the Hearsay Law – he was asked if it was pushed by him specifically because of the Peterson cases. He said that he probably has one of the most aggressive domestic violence efforts around, and seems to imply that this Law is part of his domestic violence programs. He neither replyed yes nor no about it being pushed by him to be used specifically in the Peterson crimes.

    http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/213.php?

  176. Oh, and of course, as was mentioned in the Sun Times by the reporter, Rozek, prior to the airing of this interview, he expects a resolution in at least one of the Peterson crimes.

  177. I wonder (sorry Wonder) if Stacy and Drew have a Will of their own? Hmmm, misfit made sure Kathleen and he had one “for the children.”

    Only problem is, she’d have to show herself – show herself dead, heh?

    What does he do now? Go for the gamble and try and get a divorce from a live Stacy, or help someone discover a dead Stacy? Tough decisions he’s got to make. It sucks to be Drew.

  178. Hiya Rescue! Thanks for the Glasgow interview synopsis. I believe it all….that it takes ages to deal with so much properly, and that there will be an arrest and trial. 🙂

  179. Hiya back, Bucket.

    Yeah, when you really think about it, it all makes sense. Dozens and dozens of crimes, tons of evidence in every one of them, “x” amount of law enforcement people to collect it, sift it, process it, determine it’s validity, share it, etc.

    As much as everyone would like to see Peterson arrested, and as much as some of think he’s getting away with something, the delay could be as “logical” as being mired in manpower and the lack of it. Not that there’s not enough to nail him, but that it’s being done methodically and correctly, and will all come together when it’s time.

    I don’t think Will County/ISP wants Peterson or Stebic to remain suspects forever. 😉

  180. Thanks Rescue.

    IMO the interview was sort of willtingly dis-satisfying. Glasgow got a lot more animated about violent video games (which are already rated and regulated) than the unsolved murders in Will County.

    He did defer a lot to the ISP, but I guess that’s probably appropriate.

  181. You’re welcome.

    I would absolutely think that everyone wants to see the animal that viciously murdered the Lane Bryant women caught and prosecuted too. They’re every bit as important as Kathleen and Stacy are, Lisa, Rachel and Riley. Heh, walking into a store to buy an outfit to wear shouldn’t require giving up one’s life to a maniac either.

    But, we rely on the guys in charge to do it right, so, by no means, should they be curtseyed to and given a pass when time goes by without a conclusion. Uh uh, too many people are watching and waiting and expect answers.

  182. Then, of course, you can have a murder suspect charged with killing her own baby, sitting in a jail cell, evidence up the wazoo, witness statements, time lines, cell pings, post-behavior, jail cell behavior, whining and spewing self-pity. Yet, without a doubt you have defense lawyers professing their versions of how to get her off. Not because she’s innocent of the crime, but ways to manipulate the system, find flaws in the State’s case, find experts that will testify to the opposite of what the prosecutor’s experts will say, ways to find mistakes in the proceedings that would warrant a mistrial or grounds for retrial.

    But, I think the defense putz’ s forget the most important thing of all, that no matter how much they try and confuse a jury, twist the truth, and mire down the evidence, juries will see through it and come to the right conclusion. In the defense world, that would not be the conclusion they would hope for!

    So if a dope of a suspect and his equally questionable defense lawyer think they can bamboozle a potential jury pool with their circus routines, maybe they should be careful what they wish for. You don’t have to be a bad-ass lawyer or a cocky and obnoxious ex-sergeant to figure out how to come to a correct verdict, heh?

  183. Rescue – Just two letters (“O” and “J”)remind me that sometimes the defense team is successful creating an ounce of reasonable doubt in a primarily circumstantial case.

    Remember – a guity person walking around uncharged is still better than a guilty person walking around after being acquitted by a jury.

  184. Ah, but in the OJ fiasco, he was a well-liked celebrity, for one thing. Peterson is one of the most disliked, repulsive crime suspects in the current news affairs and in the public’s opinion. Yes, though, you are absolutely right that it’s better that he be walking around uncharged right now, than be acquitted because of bad or hurried moves by the prosecutors.

    OJ had his football highlights, his Hertz commercials, his movies to endear him to many. The evidence was there, but the jury couldn’t find the total disregard and dislike for him enough to find a way to come back with a guilty verdict.

    Peterson has a history of being fired from the police department for outting a fellow drug officer, his recent supervisor, Chief McGury wanted him suspended and fired for actions unbecoming an officer, he’s a habitual womanizer who has no respect for any woman, he befriends people with questionable backgrounds, he’s been a party to charges of domestic violence by his ex-wife, he’s been a party to a court ordered restraining order by his ex-wife, and he gained lots of money from the death of one ex-wife, and lots of unsympathetic attention from the disappearance of his current wife.

    IMHO, there isn’t a jury on this planet that would find a reason to acquit him of cutting a hangnail, let alone erasing two wives from his life!

  185. > What in heaven’s name did Peterson do to
    > have half of Will County drop at his feet and
    > do whatever he wished? It’s absolutely mind
    > boggling what this man was able to accomplish
    > over the years, and even now, for heaven’s
    > sake.

    Rescue is absolutely right. I remain convinced that the only real solution, the only real way to get Peterson behind bars once and for all, is to look at his connections. Ask yourself, why does half of Bolingbrook bend over to accommodate this guy?

    When I was little, I used to turn over stones and look at the insects and worms and other creatures that lived underneath them. They would squirm with discomfort as they were left exposed and vulnerable in the light of day. Drew’s friends are much like those insects… they support him behind the anonymity of darkness, but they fear being brought out into the day light.

    Rumors claim Peterson was dealing in drugs. We all know he is buddy-buddy with Mayor Claar. Put two and two together here. How many politicians have been busted doing cocaine? Especially here in Chicago. Maybe Claar is supporting and protecting Drew because he doesn’t want his own dirty laundry being aired.

    Don’t think Peterson is a drug pusher? Consider this for a minute, when he was working vice squad, he gave the name of another cop, another UNDERCOVER COP, to a known drug dealer. That is a death sentence, and I am amazed that Peterson was not fired on the spot for that. Any other cop would have. His claim about ‘doing his own investigation’ is also bogus. Cops don’t just get to do whatever they want without having to answer to someone else.

    Look at Drew’s other friends here for a minute… Ric Mims, a known drug user. Just look at how he shakes when he talks. Steve Carcerano is another scum bag. Michael Robinson (whom Peterson is suddenly paying tuition for) and his brother Paul are both well known as drug hustlers in BB… Looks like we have a trifecta of scum.

    But… what about his other friends and girlfriends? Is it common for men to associate with women half their age? I can’t help but wonder if he didn’t meet Chrissy through selling her drugs. Just a thought.

    You want to get rid of Peterson, you have to go over his friends in high places. Vote Claar out of office. You have your chance soon! You could have voted O’Neil out, but you didn’t! At least I was out there campaigning for Judy deVriednt (a very nice woman, btw) and Charles Lyons. How many of Stacy’s so-called supporters tried to get O’Neil, Claar and his ilk out of office?

    Also, if the police really cared, perhaps they would start asking difficult questions of Peterson. Look into his finances and see if he’s got extra money or property. See if maybe something isn’t kosher. Ask to see his hanger at Clow, or perhaps ask why he is paying Robinson’s tuition. Only when you ask these questions will Peterson finally get what is coming to him.

  186. cerastes // January 22, 2009 at 2:08 pm
    ******

    Hi cerastes. Don’t remember seeing you here before, but certainly found your post very interesting!

  187. > I can’t even see how the children’s natural
    > father can get those kids out of there as on
    > what grounds would he be able to do so ?

    That is because your culture chooses to place special emphasis on a mother’s rights to her children while largely ignoring father’s rights.

    I’ve seen plenty of examples of negligent and abusive women who still got custody of the children, even when the husband would be a better caretaker, solely because of this cultural bias.

    I should think Mr. Yauk should have a right to complain about his children being in the house of a man who is a suspect in the murder of one woman and a person of interest in the disappearance of another.

    Maybe he should hire a private investigator to do research on Drew and his cohorts of friends… if you are out there Mike, do some research on Mayor Claar, Michael Robinson (a wife beater, btw), Paul Robinson, Steven Carcerano, Richard Mims, etc. I’m sure any good investigator should be able to show quite a record on most of them…

    Speaking of which, if you are reading this Mike, do tell. Did Christina ever do drugs? If she met Peterson through him or his cohorts supplying her with cocaine, it shouldn’t be too hard to take them to court. It might even provide some much needed evidence against the bugger.

  188. Ask yourself this. Peterson signed a legal document with himself as the notary. No court in the world should have accepted it, but they did. He named his uncle executor of his dead wife’s estate, which was awfully convenient for him, and there was all sorts of fishiness.

    What bothers me isn’t just that it happened and nobody did anything, but that people actually tried to prevent anyone from asking questions in the first place. At least my conscience is clean; I supported deVriendt, and I supported Lyons. Now if only we can get Claar out of office, I suspect the case will move much, much faster…

  189. rescueapet // January 22, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Ah, but in the OJ fiasco, he was a well-liked celebrity, for one thing. Peterson is one of the most disliked, repulsive crime suspects in the current news affairs and in the public’s opinion. Yes, though, you are absolutely right that it’s better that he be walking around uncharged right now, than be acquitted because of bad or hurried moves by the prosecutors.

    IMHO, there isn’t a jury on this planet that would find a reason to acquit him of cutting a hangnail, let alone erasing two wives from his life!

    ***

    All it takes is one person to get him off the hook. Based on his skills at charming the young ladies – all it would take is to get one on the jury that believes he was truly just trying to be the knight in shining armour. Plus – as you all know from other forums there are actually many people out there that truly think he is innocent and that Stacy really just ran away.

  190. Brodsky and Odeh in the news.

    Not directly related to Peterson, but I think this shows Brodsky’s true character right here. He is a fame-hungry press whore who would step over his own mother to get his face on TV. That about right?

    Brodsky and Odeh are exploiting the death of a 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza, many innocent women and children, solely to get their law firm recognition in the news.

    I had heard Brodsky was a camera chasing lout who would do anything to become famous, including paling around with Drew, but this… sickens me.

    If you want my advice, I think Brodsky entered into a law frim with Odeh as part of a carefully calculated move to ‘be unique,’ the novelty gimmick of having an Ashkenazi Jew and a Palestinian Arab being a good way to get in the papers.

    Given his personality type, and Odeh’s Mediterranean good looks, I would also say there is a perhaps 70% chance they are having an affair. But thats just a rough profile assessment more than anything.

    I am also disappointed in her. I don’t know where her family is from, but she should be ashamed of exploiting the murder of Arab civilians for her own personal gain, especially when she lives comfortably over here in the states while people are being oppressed from Laayoune to Baghdad! So much for Nasser’s dream of pan-Arab unity!

  191. > Hi cerastes. Don’t remember seeing you here
    > before, but certainly found your post very
    > interesting!

    Hehe, yes, I am indeed new here. And thank you for reading my posts. I have been following this case for a while now, and recognize (and respect) you as a long time poster here, so I am quite flattered.

    Peterson gives me a bad vibe. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but every new thing you find out about him is like peeling back one layer after the next of a rotten onion. Only with a worse stench. How far does his corruption go? I would be interested in finding out, and hopefully sooner rather than later.

    Until he is stripped of his ill-gotten gains and safely behind bars, there will be no justice fo Stacy and Kathleen, and no security for the women of Kill County. Him and Stebic both.

  192. > All it takes is one person to get him off the
    > hook. Based on his skills at charming the
    > young ladies – all it would take is to get one on
    > the jury that believes he was truly just trying
    > to be the knight in shining armour.

    Young ladies, yes, but most of the rest of the world thinks he is a colossal a**! I am quite sure he will try to charm the jury, when/if it goes to trial, and I think will h0nestly believe he IS charming them. But the truth is, his antics will only make people want to throw the book at him.

    I also can’t help but wonder if Brodsky will be more help or harm for his cause. After all, the two compete for the Darwin Award there, and it would probably be better for Brodsky if Peterson were convicted anyway. Think about it. Then he can write his book and sign deals to make it into a movie… its a win-win for him!

    > Plus – as you all know from other forums there
    > are actually many people out there that truly
    > think he is innocent and that Stacy really just
    > ran away.

    There are a few… But many of them know or are otehrwise acquainted with Drew. Ex-Law for example, who seems to fawn over him like a giddy school girl. We don’t know how many of them are Peterson, Brodsky and co. as sock puppets. Alot of them seem have similar writing styles and spelling errors as one another, interestingly enough.

    More interesting, to my mind, is that one of them reminds me of Jill Webb, Craig Stebic’s sister, who posts defending Stebic from time to time. While I’ve never believed the two cases directly connected, it does give one pause, if only for a moment.

  193. So I have another question worth asking. Peterson is a grandfather now, which is creepy and wrong in oh so many ways. Does anyone know if the mother of his get was that heavily pregnant girl who was sometimes seen with him/his friends (I believe Carcerano to be exact, though to be honest they all look alike to me) in court sometimes? Just curious.

  194. cerastes // January 22, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Ask yourself this. Peterson signed a legal document with himself as the notary. No court in the world should have accepted it, but they did. He named his uncle executor of his dead wife’s estate, which was awfully convenient for him, and there was all sorts of fishiness.

    ***********

    Well, boy, I’m asking and I’d like to know what the answer is?????

  195. cerastes // January 22, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    So I have another question worth asking. Peterson is a grandfather now, which is creepy and wrong in oh so many ways. Does anyone know if the mother of his get was that heavily pregnant girl who was sometimes seen with him/his friends
    ****************

    Attention, attention exlaw. Calling exlaw.

    Who was that cerastes is asking about?

  196. Welcome Cerastes! I admire your energy at a time when conversation and ideas are flagging. You raise a lot of very good points.

    Re: Tony Yauk. It might not be easy for him to get his kids out of Peterson’s house.

    Unfortunatey, Tony has been convicted in the past of felony theft and I believe I’ve read elsewhere that he did jailtime for a drunk driving incident in which two of his friends were killed.

    I’m also not sure about the status of a current custody arrangement between Chrissy and Tony. IIRC Brodsky said that there is none? Maybe there is someone else those kids could go live with…

  197. thinkaboutit2 // January 22, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    All it takes is one person to get him off the hook. Based on his skills at charming the young ladies – all it would take is to get one on the jury that believes he was truly just trying to be the knight in shining armour. Plus – as you all know from other forums there are actually many people out there that truly think he is innocent and that Stacy really just ran away.

    ***********

    Yeah, TAI, that’s what the defense attorneys hope for, but 11 other jurors aren’t going to take it sitting down if they have a hold out amongst them that is blatantly using his or her own agenda to throw a trial into a frenzy. That lone juror would, I believe, have to answer to the judge and have an intelligent, logical explanation for hanging a jury. A lone holdout wouldn’t, IMO, stop a prosecution from continuing on down the line and winning an eventual conviction. It sure would be emotionally (although I don’t think Peterson exhibits emotional qualities) and financially draining on Peterson.

  198. thinkaboutit2 // January 22, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    All it takes is one person to get him off the hook. Based on his skills at charming the young ladies – all it would take is to get one on the jury that believes he was truly just trying to be the knight in shining armour. Plus – as you all know from other forums there are actually many people out there that truly think he is innocent and that Stacy really just ran away.
    *************************************

    Remember though, the trial will not take place in a bar, ther jurors won’t be drunk (at least I hope not!), and Drew won’t be in a position to offer them rides on his ultralight, a new car or a pair of diamond earrings.

    The defendant’s chair isn’t a very good spot from which to charm young ladies.

  199. Welcome, Cerastes.

    Interesting posts, thank you. I think we are thinking along the same line although I rather thought DP’s involvement more likely to have been wholesale/distribution/security. Claar certainly not off the hook. Clow his project? Quite a bit looks hinky. The Mayor should be let go by the voters if only to remove doubt 😉

    I think I would probably not vote for a Mayor who forbade the Police Dept to issue press releases, that all should be forwarded to his office, and in so doing caused an unnecessary and dangerous delay before the people of Bolingbrook could be warned of an offender who was attacking women in parking lots. No. Vote.

  200. cerastes // January 22, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Maybe Claar is supporting and protecting Drew because he doesn’t want his own dirty laundry being aired.

    **************

    I would like to think and hope that it’s not true. But, if it were, Mayor Claar need only look at the Illinois Governor, or the New York Governor, to get some insight into what the secret, undercover magic tape machines might be catching.. He can’t plug up the cracks with chewed gum forever either,

    The winds are a’changing, and the public just might be up for a good fight with a few pond scum politicians.

  201. Re Brodsky and Odeh in the news.

    I read Cerastes’ post before I read the latest Sells-ick effluence, and I thought C’s comments were harsh. But I reconsider. How utterly low to make a commercial message out of such sadness. P.U. Sells-ick is so unsubtle. Some things do not a press release make.

  202. What I meant was I thought it couldn’t possibly be that bad.

    I should have known better. This is the team that gave us “the kids have to be told that Lenny and Paula didn’t love them and were only using them”

  203. I have the most incredible story to share today. I’m shaking thinking about it, but, nonetheless, things happen for a reason.

    My son was having lunch today with a buddy today, in a quaint suburban downtown restaurant. They had just finished their lunch, and were getting up to leave, when the waitress brought each a brownie. He, of course, stayed to eat that brownie.

    At just that time, across the street, a car wash attendant got in a customer’s car, and from accounts, accelerated quickly and so fast (stuck accelerator they’re thinking), that he veered directly across a busy street, that just happened to be free of traffic, crashed directly into my son’s parked vehicle, flipped it, spun it and crashed that into a building, then crashed himself into a building, kept going, and hit a tree. Unfortunately, he was injured, but not one other soul, in the whole fiasco was.

    Brownies all around. May everyone be as lucky as my son was today.

  204. My husband came home from picking him up to take him back to work, and he told me he said “dad, if I didn’t stop to eat that brownie……”

    I will never look at brownies the same anymore, LOL, Bucket!

  205. And all of the reports out there now say that desert is bad for your health! Boy are they wrong in this case.

    Glad to hear that his guardian angel was watching over him.

  206. My baby (who was in 8th grade at the time) had a guardian angel watching over her in a similar manner a couple of years back.

    The kids all went to this tiny pizza place in the little strip mall after a junior high dance as they always did. There were lots of kids outside and a few inside getting their pizza.

    One of my older daughter’s friends (who was a HS sophmore at the time) lost control of her friend’s car (she was charged with zero-tolerance) and crashed into the kids throwing them through the storefront window, pinning some against a picnic table, and then hitting others and throwing glass when the car continued into the building. About 8-9 kids were hurt. Lots of cuts from flying glass, some broken legs, etc. but my daughter and her friends seemed OK (other than emotionally from the scare).

    My daughter said that during the crash she totally froze even though others were jumping away and she could see them getting hit. She said that it was really weird because she felt like she could put her hand out and have touched the girl in the passenger seat. The next day we discovered that she had a bruise on her arm at the exact height of the side mirror of a car and we are pretty certain that she got clipped by it.

    She was freaking out about how she froze in place so I told her that it was my mom (who had just recently passed) being her guardian angel holding her exactly where she needed to be to not get hurt. One step forward and I’m certain her injuries would have been severe.

    It is amazing how different outcomes could be if you made a different decision or you got there one second earlier or later.

  207. TAI – a guardian angel was watching your baby, for sure. What a wonderful, happy ending.

    A totally schmooshed Xterra really is insignificant in the scheme of things, I guess.

  208. It is always an important lesson in life when you realize that the material things you thought you cared so much about really CAN be replaced – yet the ones you love cannot.

  209. That’s exactly what we were just discussing over this, as my son just asked me if he could borrow my car.

    😉

  210. My comment should have said “yet the PEOPLE you love cannot”.

    You really gotta love someone to be able to share a car with them!

  211. Good Evening!

    Finally an update on the GJ. Here is the story from Joe Hosey…

    Peterson grand jury resumes with two witnesses
    Nephew, divorce lawyer called to testify

    January 22, 2009

    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com
    JOLIET — The parade of witnesses before the grand jury investigating the murder of Drew Peterson’s third wife and the disappearance of his fourth resumed Thursday with his former divorce lawyer and an old in-law summoned to testify.
    The grand jury, which convened more than a year ago, last met since before Thanksgiving. On its first day back in action, Alexander Beck, who represented Peterson in his unresolved divorce from slain third wife Kathleen Savio, was called. So was Charlie Doman, Savio’s nephew and a former employee of Peterson.

    Doman worked in Suds Pub, a Montgomery bar Peterson had owned, as a maintenance man and disc jockey.

    Doman and his attorney, Tamara Holder, declined to comment on what transpired during his grand jury appearance. Beck referred questions to his attorney, Matthew Bertani.

    “Mr. Beck respects the sanctity of the grand jury and the gravity of these proceedings,” Bertani said. “He will not comment on them publicly.”

    Beck apparently could not say much to the grand jury either.

    “He will not, and cannot, according to the Supreme Court rules, reveal any confidences arising out of his representation of Mr. Peterson many years ago,” Bertani said.

    Homicide, disappearance

    Peterson and Savio were in the midst of a contentious divorce when she was found dead in her own dry bathtub in March 2004. The state police found no sign of foul play during their investigation of Savio’s death, but when Peterson’s next wife, Stacy Peterson, vanished in October 2007, they reclassified Savio’s death to a homicide. The state police are still trying to figure out who killed her.

    State police also are trying to determine what happened to Stacy Peterson. They have labeled her disappearance a “potential homicide” and named Drew Peterson their sole suspect.

    Peterson, who has since taken up with a 24-year-old mother of two, did not think he had anything to worry about regarding Beck or Doman testifying “unless they’re making something up, which is always my big fear,” he said.

    Still investigating

    While the grand jury proceedings have been dormant for weeks, the investigations of Savio’s death and Stacy’s disappearance have been anything but, said Charles B. Pelkie, a spokesman for the state’s attorney’s office.

    “This by no means indicates a lack of activity in the case,” Pelkie said.

    “Things are moving forward. Things are full-steam right now and they have been for several months.”

  212. Thanks, WSF, for the info. Peterson must be concerned about this testimony, as with others, because I’ve seen him say that old line of his before, that he worries about people making things up.

    Must be his way of denying what may be true – they’re all making it up.

  213. Rescue,

    No problem at all. Yes, Peterson always has a comment. Part of me is glad there was no comment from the two witnesses.

    Very glad GJ finally got together.

  214. Nice to see that the wheels are still in motion, and people making wise decisions and keeping their counsel about their testimony.

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