More from the Morpheys

A little more detailed story from Mike Puccinelli, tonight. John Morphey says that when Drew left Tom with the cell phone which rang two times indicating calls from “Stacy” it was at a park, the Remington Lakes Sports Complex, not a coffeehouse. There’s video at the link as well.

John Morphey, brother of Thomas Morphey

John Morphey, brother of Thomas Morphey

Brother Of Witness In Drew Peterson Case Speaks
Mike Puccinelli BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ― Feb 23, 2009 10:42 pm US/Central

He may be a key witness in the investigation of Stacy Peterson. On the night she disappeared, Tom Morphey claimed he helped Drew Peterson move a barrel into the former Bolingbrook police sergeant’s truck. The next day, Tom tried to kill himself, but survived. Tom isn’t talking to the media. But his brother John is – only with CBS 2’s Mike Puccinelli.

Tom Morphey is the man who says he helped Drew Peterson carry a barrel from his upstairs bedroom into a truck. A barrel that investigators believe contained the body of Stacy Peterson. Tom Morphey has been ordered not to talk by investigators so his brother John is speaking for him.

Puccinelli: “What did your brother tell you about that night and what he did?

John Morphey: “He thought he helped dispose of Stacy’s dead body in a blue barrel.”

That was on October 28, 2007 – the last day Stacy Peterson was seen alive.

Puccinelli: “What made him think Stacy was inside that barrel?

John Morphey: “He said he just knew.”

John Morphey says his brother has no idea where Drew Peterson drove with the barrel.

Puccinelli: “Does your brother think Drew murdered Stacy.

John Morphey: “He doesn’t think – he knows.”

Drew Peterson has been charged with no crime and says he’s innocent. But John Morphey says his brother believes Peterson thought about killing his wife and then did just that.

Puccinelli: “Sources say that Drew had a conversation with your brother where he said Stacy was becoming a problem that he needed to take care of. Did your brother say he had a conversation that went like that?

John Morphey: “Yes.”

Puccinelli: “Can you tell me anything more about it?”

John Morphey: “I wish I could.”

Sources say it was in a Bolingbrook park where a so-called problem conversation took place.

Hours before Tom Morphey says he helped Peterson load the barrel into his truck, John Morphey says his brother was asked by Peterson to hold his cell phone and wait for him in the park. He was instructed not to answer the phone. After waiting a while, the phone rang two separate times indicating Stacy was calling. John Morphey says his brother believes Drew Peterson actually made those calls.

Puccinelli: “Does he think Drew made those calls to cover his tracks?

John Morphey: “I don’t know the answer to that question.”

Puccinelli: “Is it a question you don’t know the answer of or is it a question you can’t answer?”

John Morphey: “I can’t answer it.”

John Morphey says his brother would never have wittingly done anything to harm Stacy. Now he says his brother will do anything to see to it that Drew Peterson is convicted and never released from prison.

Drew Peterson says there is no blue barrel and that Tom Morphey is making the whole story up. Peterson says Morphey has mental and substance abuse issues and wants to make himself into a hero.

Read the whole story at the CBS2 web site.

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189 thoughts on “More from the Morpheys

  1. Good morning.

    I’m so enjoying this because murderer and Bratsky will hate this. DP’s been thinking coffee shop? what coffee shop? hahaha loser crackhead.

    * * * * *
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 2 23 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL 1 Final
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 2 23 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 3 Final
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 2 23 9 404 930 08CF000098 0 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL 2 Final

    What does this final mean? Last hearing? Last day of trial? Help? 🙂

  2. facs,

    Thanks for posting. I also recall when Greta V and Mark F. in BB, Matk had gone to the Krispy Cream dougnut shop and investigated. Wonder if Peterson was there with someone else???

  3. bucket,

    Good Morning! Also, that Krispy Kreme place has been closed sometime ago as well. Sorry I can’t help you on the Mike Robinson question. Hopefully someone can.

    It’s off to wrk. Have a great day!

  4. Interesting about the Remington Lakes Sports Complex.
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  5. Hours before Tom Morphey says he helped Peterson load the barrel into his truck, John Morphey says his brother was asked by Peterson to hold his cell phone and wait for him in the park. He was instructed not to answer the phone. After waiting a while, the phone rang two separate times indicating Stacy was calling. John Morphey says his brother believes Drew Peterson actually made those calls.

    So this is the first I heard about him being in a park. I’d imagine that the investigators are able to track where his phone pinged during that time as well as where Stacy’s phone last pinged. This would make more sense than him leaving his brother in a coffee house but what would Drew’s reason be for being at the park at that time?

    It is a shame that Pucinelli didn’t ask how long the brother was at that site. I’d be curious to know that because they could use that to figure out an area for searching from that spot. Did they ever say where Stacy’s phone pinged the very last time??

    I think that Tom’s brother should be quiet and not talk to the news because if this information is true then he has now let Drew know about some things he may not have known.

  6. I just realized something as I pressed the submit button. It said that Drew had him hold the phone in the park hours before helping load the blue barrel in the car. Did Drew have Sharon watch the kids for a little while the day Stacy went missing or was it the day after? My memory has holes.

    If the barrel wasn’t moved out of the house until later and the kids were still in the house while he was playing phone games, then that could mean the kids were left in the house with Stacy’s body. It seems backwards to me – like he’d hide a body first and then figure out the phone stuff because as a police officer he knows what they can find with phone pings.

  7. Honestly, I’m not getting why this is being played by Channel 2 as some new, big revelation. It was published in the Chicago Tribune last April.

    …..John Morphey said his brother told him substantially the same story that he told his friend and neighbor, Walter Martineck, who went public with his account in December. John Morphey said his brother told him that he met Drew at a coffee shop near Peterson’s home on the night of Oct. 28. They talked awhile, then Peterson drove Tom Morphey to a nearby park and left him with a cell phone and instructions not to answer if it rang, his brother said. Peterson drove off. After awhile, the phone rang, and the name “Stacy” appeared on the caller ID,Morphey said.

    “I believe he set my brother up with that phone call,” John Morphey said.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/apr/16/news/chi-peterson-stepbrothersapr16

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    Also, Brodsky, in an interview with Greta Van Susteren on 11/30/2007, a small portion dealing with Morphey and a “park” came up. BTW, I find it very disturbing on Brodsky’s part that he can psychoanalyze a man so thoroughly whom he doesn’t know, and has never examined as a mental health physician. It’s too bad that he took, and continues to take, shoddy information from his client and dispense it to the public before he has a clue what is going to come out of his mouth!!!

    Anyway…..

    BRODSKY: Yes. Well, the stepbrother — there’s two things about the stepbrother. One that I just saw this evening was now the stepbrother’s story seems to be a tote bag taken out of the house. It started as a 55- gallon blue barrel drum. Then it became a rectangular container, and now it’s changed to a tote bag. The — it’s morphing. It’s — it’s — I think what they call it, Transformers. It’s incredible the way the story keeps changing.

    But Tom Morphey is a very ill (ph) man with all his multiple psychiatric hospitalizations and his problems with alcohol and his multiple suicide attempts. There’s no question that he is a very disturbed person. And there’s so much, the state’s attorney hasn’t even brought him before the grand jury because of his memory lapses. So I mean, that’s not reaching when we say that there’s certainly very large credibility issues with this man.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Has your — did your client see Tom Morphey or talk to him on the Sunday Stacy disappeared?

    BRODSKY: Absolutely not.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Never saw him.

    BRODSKY: Never saw him.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Never picked him up in a park.

    BRODSKY: Never picked him up in a park or anywhere else.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Never took him to a coffee shop and put a cell phone down on the table.

    BRODSKY: Never, which would — it would seem to me that that could be verified by the fact that there’s no video of it. In this day and age, you know, every coffee shop, Starbucks or such, has video surveillance in it. And since there’s no video, I mean, once again, it goes to prove the lack of credibility of the story.

  8. I can’t wait to see how Brodsky is going to backtrack on this information that his client “never” saw Morphey that night. It’s all out and he’s stuck with it now.

  9. You think Brodsky would like to take a real high profile case?
    Lawyer quits Hudson killings case
    February 23, 2009 — The lawyer who represented the man accused of slaying Oscar-winning actress Jennifer Hudson’s three relatives withdrew Monday as his attorney.
    Joshua Kutnick said he believes William Balfour is innocent but cannot financially support such a high-profile case alone.
    “It’s the kind of case that involves intense hours,” Kutnick said after speaking with Balfour’s mother. “I was gathering all resources, but I couldn’t finance it.” Balfour, 27, is expected to be appointed a lawyer from the public defender’s later Monday afternoon, Kutnick said.
    Balfour is charged with killing the mother, brother and 7-year-old nephew of Hudson’s in Englewood last October.
    Balfour is the estranged husband of Hudson’s sister Julia.
    OOPs, i forgot, don’t think he’s certified to handle a murder trial.LOL

  10. I agree with Rescue … Drew has denied for some time that he ever saw Tom Morphey that night. I’d like to see the proof TM has that he and Drew did what TM says they did, and then watch Joel do some major backpedaling!

    Like TAI, my memory has holes, but I thought Mark Fuhrman made up a good portion of the coffee shop story, including that the video of the two men were Drew and TM. IIRC, it was neither of them.

  11. But Tom Morphey is a very ill (ph) man with all his multiple psychiatric hospitalizations and his problems with alcohol and his multiple suicide attempts. There’s no question that he is a very disturbed person. And there’s so much, the state’s attorney hasn’t even brought him before the grand jury because of his memory lapses. So I mean, that’s not reaching when we say that there’s certainly very large credibility issues with this man.

    Wait a minute – isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black? Didn’t Brodsky get disciplined for forging someone’s signature and “holding” onto their money? Didn’t he file bankruptcy? Wasn’t there some bizarre incident involving him where people were so concerned that the police had to be called?

    Credibility is not always removed when someone has testimony that could potentially be corraborated with hard evidence (such as cell phone pings) or phone call records.

  12. I found two different timelines documented that make me wonder if this is around the time that Drew could have met Morphey at the park:

    (via DP Exposed)
    1-1:30 p.m. – Drew runs Sunday errands while Tom and Kris watch Anthony and Lacy.

    (via media reports)
    1 p.m. – Drew Peterson brings the children over to Bychowski’s home and tells her he has an errand to run. He returns in about 15 minutes.

    (Source: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/archive/x603830732/Peterson-case-timeline)

    So he had to go to the park twice if this story is right – once to drop off the phone and once to get it back (unless he had Morphey walk it to his house). So it seems that the investigators would know if his phone was pinging in the area that Morphey said he was at with Drew’s phone during whatever time he was supposed there. I wonder if Drew had accidentally brought Stacy’s phone with him and just powered it off which would then show his phone and hers pinging at the same towers as he drove. The only way your phone doesn’t ping is if you completely remove the battery.

    IDK – If they had evidence like this I think they would have charged him by now though.

  13. noway406 Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 10:03 am
    TAI, the evidence will speak for itself IMO. But I wish they would get going on that arrest already.

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    Can someone please ask the evidence to speak a little louder?? I don’t think the legal authorities can hear it good enough.

  14. So the way I’m reading all of this now is that :

    1. Drew picked Tom up at the Remington Lakes Sports Complex
    2. Drew took him to a coffeehouse (Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, Krispie Kreme, whatever…) where they talked about Stacy being a problem
    3. Drew returned Tom to the park and gave him the phone
    4. Drew left for a while, the phone rang twice
    5. Drew returned and reclaimed the phone

    Does that seem right?

    I am glad that John didn’t go into the timing of these events, even though I’d love to know…

  15. This might be something to talk to Hosey about tonight if we can call in or join the chat:

    http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:i08zAK89LtIJ:https://www.amazines.com/Current_Affairs/article_detail.cfm/611437%3Farticleid%3D611437+%22tom+morphey%22+%2B+park&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

    Walter Martineck hardly knows Drew Peterson, a retired police sergeant in the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook, but he’s a good friend of Peterson’s stepbrother, Tom Morphey. So it was that Martineck found himself unwittingly drawn into the events of October 28, 2007, the day Peterson’s young wife, Stacy, was last seen. The prologue that follows is a dramatization based on an account Morphey reportedly gave to police, as well as statements Martineck made in the media regarding his strange run-in with Morphey late that day, before Martineck had heard a word about Stacy’s disappearance. In the months that she’s remained missing, numerous stories have flooded out from both those who knew her well and those who barely knew her; stories that the police, and everyone following the case in the national news, are sorting through to answer the vexing question: What happened to Stacy?

    Drew Peterson set a cup of coffee in front of his stepbrother, who was slumped in a stuffed chair in the back of Starbucks, away from the wide windows looking out onto busy Weber Road. Tom Morphey sipped the coffee and waited to hear why Peterson had summoned him there.

    But Peterson only said, “Drink this. You look like you need it.”

    Morphey could believe he did. He’d woken up that morning with a familiar dull ache behind his eyes and burning in his stomach after spending the day on the couch, watching the Bears give away a game to the Lions. Then he dozed off and might still have been asleep if his stepbrother hadn’t called at 5 o’clock that evening, asking to meet him at the Starbucks midway between their homes in the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook.

    Peterson told Morphey to be there at seven; it was important.

    Morphey heaved himself off the couch and, since he had nowhere else to be, headed over to Starbucks, happy for the chance to help his stepbrother for a change. Usually it was Peterson coming through for him with things like money, furniture, or work. Just the other day Peterson had told him he could probably line up something at the local Meijer department store; Morphey needed the job, and it would not have been the first that Peterson had helped him get.

    When Morphey walked into Starbucks, he was early for their meeting. Peterson was already there, sitting in back, reading the paper. After getting Morphey coffee, Peterson asked, “How’s things at home?”

    Morphey just shrugged and asked about Peterson’s three boys, daughter, and wife, Stacy. Peterson gushed about the kids: Tom at the top of his class and playing trumpet in the school band, Kris a champion junior high wrestler, Anthony and Lacy adorable and growing up fast. About Stacy — his fourth wife, mother to Anthony and Lacy, stepmother to Tom and Kris — he said nothing. He fell silent and stared across the table.

    “Why aren’t you working tonight?” Morphey asked.

    “Taking the day off.” More silence. Then: “I need something.”

    So he didn’t just want to talk, to get something off his chest. He — Drew Peterson, Bolingbrook police sergeant, enforcer of law and order — needed something from his troubled, unemployed stepbrother. It was the best Morphey had felt in a long while.

    “What?” he said quickly.

    “Stacy,” Peterson said. “She said she’s leaving me again. You know how she is.”

    Morphey said he knew.

    “It’s like this every month,” Peterson said. “Right around her period. It’s getting to be too much. Especially since Tina.”

    Stacy’s half sister, Tina, had died about a year before. Peterson had told Morphey how hard Stacy had taken it, about her depression, her pills. Morphey, too, knew a little something about depression and pills.

    “You know what else?” Peterson said. “I think she’s running around on me.”

    “Get out of here.”

    Peterson pulled out his wallet and opened it to a picture of Stacy, in a tight party dress, leaning over Drew as he sat on a chair. “You’d say no to this?”

    “She’s a fox,” Morphey agreed, “but that doesn’t mean she’s running around.”

    Peterson put the wallet away. “It’s getting to be a problem,” he said. “She’s a problem. We got to dispose of the problem.”

    Morphey didn’t know what to make of that. He didn’t really want to know. Had he even heard his stepbrother correctly? He didn’t try too hard to figure it out.

    Peterson rubbed his temples and pushed back his hair. “I need you to wait here for a little while.” Then he reached into his jacket, pulled out a cell phone and handed it to Morphey.

    “Take this. Whatever happens, don’t answer it. Just stay here. Don’t fall asleep. Get another coffee, whatever. Just don’t leave and don’t answer the phone. And don’t call anybody either. Think you can handle that?”

    “Yeah, Drew.”

    Peterson left. Morphey studied the phone. It was a nice one, but Morphey did not mess with it. He did not want to screw up. He sat there and tried to stay awake.

    After about half an hour, a jolting ring made Morphey drop the phone in his lap. When he picked it up, he saw the caller ID.

    Stacy. Morphey stared at the phone until it stopped ringing. He didn’t know what was going on, but suddenly he wasn’t so sleepy.

    Another half hour passed before Peterson reappeared. When Morphey asked where he had gone, Peterson told him that he just went to run an errand.

    Morphey handed back the phone. “Your wife called.”

    Peterson put the phone in his pocket without looking at it. “I know,” he said. “You did a good job.”

    Out in the parking lot, Peterson said, “Give me a call tomorrow. I might have something on that Meijer’s thing.” He got in his GMC Denali and drove off.

    A few hours later, he called Morphey again. “You think you can come over here? I need a hand moving something. The Denali and the Grand Prix are in the driveway, so just park in front. You’re all right to drive, right?”

    Morphey put on his jacket and headed for the door. He told his girlfriend Sheryl he’d be back in a minute; he had to go to Drew’s.

    When he got to Peterson’s house, his stepbrother opened the front door before Morphey had a chance to ring the bell. As Morphey stepped inside, Peterson glanced around the sleepy cul-de-sac. It was a few days before Halloween. The air was crisp, the house almost as dark as the street.

    The kids were sleeping, and Peterson said Stacy was out with her sister. Morphey thought that was strange, since both cars were parked in the driveway. Maybe Stacy’s sister had picked her up from the house.

    Morphey followed Peterson upstairs and into the bedroom. He noticed a blue plastic barrel next to the bed. The barrel was tightly sealed and had two plugged holes in its lid, maybe openings for a pump. It looked a little smaller than a fifty-five-gallon drum.

    Peterson squatted and put his fingers under the edge of the barrel’s bottom. “I’ll tip it,” he said. “You take it from the top.”

    He pushed the barrel over, and Morphey accepted its weight. It was warm against his hands. Peterson backed out of the bedroom and toward the stairs. Morphey walked after, holding up his end. The barrel was not very heavy, and now Peterson bore all of its weight as he stepped backward down the stairs.

    Morphey asked what was in the barrel.

    “Chlorine,” Peterson said.

    Morphey thought it was strange that Peterson would have a barrel of chlorine for his swimming pool all the way upstairs, next to his bed. He wondered for what reason it needed to be moved late on a Sunday night, not to mention why it felt warmer than the air in the room. But he didn’t ask any of these questions. He told himself to just believe his stepbrother, to go along with it and show himself capable of helping with this simple task.

    Once downstairs, they carried the barrel through the attached garage and out to the driveway, where Peterson set it down to open the back of his Denali. The two men hoisted the barrel into the car. Peterson wedged a piece of wood against it to keep it from rolling around.

    “Well, I better get this out of here,” he said.

    “Where you going?” Morphey asked.

    “I know a guy wants to buy some chlorine,” Peterson said.

    “Now?”

    “He wants it pretty bad.” Peterson pulled a wad of bills out of his pocket and palmed it into Morphey’s hand.

    “Ah, Drew, come on,” Morphey protested. “You don’t have to.”

    “Got to run,” Peterson said as he climbed into his Denali and closed the garage door from inside his car. Morphey watched the door go down, then drove home.

    In his kitchen, he sat down and had a few drinks. His head throbbed. Dispose. Problem. He had a few more and then walked up the street to the home of his pal Walter Martineck. Lights shone through the front window, so he knocked on the door.

    Wally opened the door, and Morphey blurted out, “I think I just helped move Stacy with Drew.”

    Wally tried to follow what he was saying, but Morphey was drunk and rambling, nearly incoherent. He kept trying to push a handful of money onto his pal. Wally refused and asked where the cash had come from. Morphey wouldn’t say. He left his friend standing mystified in the doorway and walked back to his own house.

    When he woke up the next morning, his girlfriend told him something that he already knew, no matter how much he tried to convince himself otherwise. So he went back to bed and tried to forget; he tried to pretend that it had never happened.

    When he awoke the second time and couldn’t fall back to sleep, Morphey swallowed a handful of pills and chased them with what was left in a big plastic bottle of liquor. The rest of that day, October 29, 2007 — the day that Stacy Peterson was reported missing, as his girlfriend had informed him in the morning — was largely lost to Morphey. And as he gratefully drifted off again, he hoped the whole thing had been a bad dream.

    Waking up in a hospital room in Naperville, the next town over, was no dream. Through his haze, he heard people saying he had tried to end it all with liquor and pills. He believed what these people were saying, never mind that he could not quite make out what they looked like. Whether he had intentionally tried to kill himself, which was entirely possible, or had simply overdone it trying to block out the terrible thoughts racing through his mind, Morphey didn’t know or care. They gave him drugs to sleep, which was nice, but when the drugs wore off, an unwelcome consciousness returned. He slept and woke, and upon one woozy resurfacing, Drew Peterson had materialized next to his bed.

    Peterson, catching Morphey’s eye, leaned over and asked, “How you feeling?”

    The above is an excerpt from the book Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson by Joseph Hosey Published by Phoenix Books; September 2008;$22.95US/$24.95CAN; 978-1-59777-606-6 Copyright © 2008 Joseph Hosey & Phoenix Books, Inc.

    Author Bio: Joseph Hosey has been a reporter for the Chicago area’s Herald News since 1999 and has been on the cusp of every major development in the Drew Peterson case. He is the only member of the media to cover Kathleen Savio’s inquest, having broken the stories of her death and, later, the disappearance of Stacy Peterson.

  16. Facs – I’m not sure if the discussion about Stacy being a problem happened the same day as the other stuff. I agree that it is good that Morphey’s brother isn’t saying more. I personally don’t think anyone with knowledge of potentially key evidence should even be talking at this point.

    Although the flip side is that maybe some witness not associated with the family or friends (who doesn’t have credibility issues) can spark a recollection of seeing them at the places mentioned and they would come forward.

    I sometimes think that is a negative side of police withholding information. Kind of like them taking so long to release the photos of the clothing that was on the body discovered in Fond Du Lac, WI. People’s memory gets fuzzy after time and fast information is sometimes key to solving a mystery.

  17. 7 pm Starbucks

    how does that compare to (crap I hate even bringing up the man’s name) Derek A’s version of Drew’s timeline?

  18. Nevermind … I see that the above is a dramatization based on Tom Morphey’s statement to LE and Walter Martineck’s statements made in the media.

  19. TAI – Agreed. It must be hard for investigators to decide what to try to keep quiet and what to put out there. Whenever there is a leak I do wonder if it’s done for a reason.

  20. I’m puzzling over the unanswered call to DP’s from Stacy’s phone. Won’t the cell records show that the call was not completed? surely that there was no time for a conversation?

    Tom Morphey in theory would have a lot of information seeing as he worked not only at Suds but at the mysterious truckstop as well! No wonder the ugly murdering buzzard is scared of him.

  21. Umm, am I missing something here? Does anyone know of an explanation for these two distinct differences, which have been reported repeatedly?

    (1) John Morphey said his brother told him substantially the same story that he told his friend and neighbor, Walter Martineck, who went public with his account in December. John Morphey said his brother told him that he met Drew at a coffee shop near Peterson’s home on the night of Oct. 28. They talked awhile, then Peterson drove Tom Morphey to a nearby park and left him with a cell phone and instructions not to answer if it rang, his brother said. Peterson drove off. After awhile, the phone rang, and the name “Stacy” appeared on the caller ID, Morphey said.

    (2) CASSANDRA CALES: “He said that she called him at 9 o’clock and said she left her car at Clow Airport (a local airfield), and that she was leaving; going on a little vacation,” Cales said.

    How do you reconcile the two? Either the call was stopped by the caller before it was completed, it went to voicemail, or it was answered.

  22. That sports complex is only about 10 minutes from Drew’s house. And Drew’s house is only about 5-10 from the airport, IIRC.

    So for him to “ping” at the airport when making the call, he wouldn’t have had to have been that far from the complex.

  23. There was more than one call. I think there were 3 unanswered and 1 answered. I remember seeing calls at times like 9:02, 9:04, 9:06 or something like that. Maybe at acandyrose.

  24. Fear keeps a lot of people quiet. That is a huge reason why so many gang-related and city crimes never get solved.

    Domestic abuse crimes also often go unreported because women (and those that live around them) are afraid they will make matters worse.

  25. I have to agree with you guys, too, and Facs, I think the same about leaks…especially at this stage of the game. He didn’t really tell us anything new except the name of the park. Maybe a ittle indication of how Tom’s memory is working. 😉

  26. Rescue – there could always have been another call to Drew’s cell phone at home that one of the boys picked up at their dad’s request.

  27. Just to clarify, I don’t think the call from Stacy really was from Stacy … so when Drew answered the phone someone else did the calling.

    He said he was at home IIRC.

    If there is a real call from Stacy’s phone that was answered on Drew’s phone then someone else must have made that call or someone else had to be in the ping area of Drew’s house to answer Drew’s phone.

    If Drew was making the call from Stacy’s phone (in theory pinging at the airport) then who answered Drew’s phone?

    😯

  28. Would the cell phone company records show the difference between a call that went to voicemail and a call that was answered?

    Or would it just show that the call lasted 5 minutes or however long?

  29. No, the phone itself will. It records them as received or missed calls. Mine does anyway, and the police took his phone, didn’t they?

  30. Since Peterson’s defense likes to drag out the past of every single person against Drew Peterson, maybe we should call attention to the pot that calls the kettle black.

    Besides having one murdered ex-wife and a missing, presumed dead present wife, a 24 year old fiancee, nothing but street rats for friends, and a total disregard for women in general by the way he treats them, this is Drew Peterson’s past:

    More than 20 years ago, Drew Peterson was fired from the Bolingbrook Police Department after the village board of police and fire commissioners found him guilty of disobedience, conducting a self-assigned investigation, failure to report a bribe immediately and official misconduct. He had been indicted two months earlier on charges of official misconduct and failure to report a bribe. Peterson was working under the auspices of the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad at the time. Indictments alleged he solicited drugs in exchange for information about his agency.

  31. Well, the phone records can be erased from the phone. I mean my phone shows I missed a call yesterday from my sister, but I can erase the “record” of that missed call from my phone.

    That doesn’t meant the call wasn’t made/missed.

    While my bill probably won’t show that level of detail, I’m hoping, hoping, hoping, the cell phone company records show it down to the littlest detail.

  32. Tom Morphey (per his brother): He quit drinking after completing a six-month rehabilitation program in the mid-1990s and began taking medicine for depression. “He became this totally different person. He became a different Tom, a Tom I’m proud of,” John Morphey said. “He has a past, like anybody, but for the past 10 years or so, he’s been a responsible citizen, taking care of [his longtime girlfriend’s] three boys, showing them right from wrong.”

    I’ll go with this gentleman, thank you.

  33. You can always throw into the mix what Drew said about calling Stacy that day:

    DR PHIL: “In that you did have a pattern of calling each other all the time, why did you not call her the day she disappeared?”

    DREW: “I did, but she wanted her space” “That day I gave her, her space.”

  34. Hmm … I guess she didn’t answer so he took that to mean she wanted her space?

    Actually, IMO, the second part seems to be a backpedal, and it’s more of an explanation as to why he didn’t call her that day.

    What do you get out of it?

  35. Well, it’s confusing to me because it almost reads as if he’s saying that he did and yet did not call her.

    Or that he called her only once and then stopped?

    It’s puzzling. I wonder what the cell phone records would show. I’m kinda willing to bet that they show NO calls from him to her cell phone.

  36. Drew and Joel can attempt to assassinate Tom’s character all they like, but it does stand that in the last 16 months, we haven’t seen any reports of shameful behavior from him like we have about those two idiots.

  37. Maybe

    “I did” is in response to “you did have a pattern of calling each other”

    And the “But she wanted her space” and That day I gave her, her space” is to explain why there will not be any calls on the phone records.

  38. If TM is as insignificant as Drew Peterson would like us to believe, and there was no contact between them that day, why are Drew and Joel bothering to discredit Tom Morphey?

    Makes me wonder. 😉

  39. Now, let’s get to Brodsky. This is what he stated to Greta (11/30/2007)

    BRODSKY: And you have to remember, Morphey has had several suicide attempts. So you have to put this in the context. When you have multiple suicide attempts, the timing of the last suicide attempt really becomes less nefarious. You know, it’s not just he tried once, he’s tried many times.

    *******
    VAN SUSTEREN: ……Now, here’s the other thing that just came in. I just got an e-mail. Here’s the e-mail content. “I am Tom Morphey’s sister, and while watching your show right now, I’m going crazy listening to Mr. Brodsky say that Tom has had multiple suicide attempts. For the record, Tom has never attempted suicide ever before. He has had substance abuse problems. However, he has never attempted suicide before.”

    *******

    Illinois Supreme Court disciplinary orders: January 2004

    JOEL ALAN BRODSKY, Wilmette: Brodsky, who was licensed in 1982, was suspended for three months. In order to close a probate estate’s bank account and receive the funds, he signed the dead executor’s name to bank documents needed to release the funds.

    In 1997, he went through a bitter divorce from his first wife, who alleged that he had threatened her life. Brodsky denied the allegation. He was never charged. The following year, Brodsky filed for personal bankruptcy. He blamed his divorce for his financial difficulties.

    In 2002, a police SWAT team responded to his home on a report that Brodsky was home alone brandishing a shotgun and threatening to kill himself, according to a police report. No charges were filed, however, and both Brodsky and his current wife, Elizabeth, contend that police mishandled the incident.

    A + B = C: Brodsky is full of himself and is a babbling, stupid idiot that makes no sense! Pot. Kettle. Black.

  40. November 1, 2007
    BY DAN ROZEK AND STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporters

    Drew Peterson believes his missing wife left voluntarily — even taking extra clothes with her — and isn’t a victim of foul play, the Bolingbrook police sergeant said Wednesday, breaking his silence on the puzzling disappearance of Stacy Peterson.

    “I believe she’s not missing. She’s where she wants to be,” he said. “I have no reason to suspect foul play.”

    That carried over into their last conversation, he said. She left their home Sunday morning to help a relative paint, then called him at their home at about 9 p.m. Sunday.

    “She seemed snotty,” Peterson said, describing the call as “unusual” though he wouldn’t disclose details of what was said.

    That call at 9 p.m. Sunday was his last communication with his wife — and even then he said he didn’t know where she was calling from.

    *************
    Obviously, this report says that Peterson received a call at their “home.”

    Geesh.

  41. As I go through various news articles, etc., I find some interesting things.

    Remember when Peterson when on his “head clearing” trip? The mystery trip that has never been divulged as to where he was? I found this from a previous Greta Wire post:

    “An hour ago Steph spoke to Sgt. Peterson’s good friend Ric who confirms that Sgt. Peterson is not at his house. However, Ric is in telephone communication with Sgt. Peterson.

    It is very possible – and even reasonable – that Sgt. Peterson would want to get away from the glare of the media. The media is parked out in front of his house. What strikes me as odd is the thought – we have no proof – that the Illinois State Troopers don’t know where he is. Would you not think they would stay in constant communication? Maybe they are and we just don’t have that information…”

    ********

    Telephone records, ping, ping, ping….. (if Mims hasn’t already told LE where the creep was during his unexplained absence).

  42. “….out of fear of his dad.”

    Came across this:

    Nov 6, 2007 11:13 pm US/Central
    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/stacy.peterson.search.2.490122.html

    Drew Peterson has not assisted in any of the searches. He said he last saw his wife the morning of Sunday, Oct. 28, and claimed to have spoken to her that night. He said she told him she was leaving him.

    CBS 2 also contacted one of Drew Peterson’s sons from his first marriage. He didn’t want to go on camera, in part he said, out of fear of his dad.

  43. That carried over into their last conversation, he said. She left their home Sunday morning to help a relative paint, then called him at their home at about 9 p.m. Sunday.
    * * * * * * * *
    Wait a second….you know you can’t quote DP without turning up more BS..didn’t DP say Stacy had gone to see Grandpa, not painting?

  44. Hiya Bucket – you know, there are so many contradictions and reports out there, it’s mind boggling. Especially, when you take into account what happened immediately after Stacy was reported as missing. When it was all still fresh.

    Here’s another indication that Mims spoke to Peterson while he went away on his head clearing trip:

    by Greta Van Susteren
    From: Watts, Stephen

    Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:36 PM

    To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade; Howard, Cory

    Subject: Drew is not in the house

    Rick said he just called him to go close up the house after the cops were done. Please twell furhman cory. I’m on my way to ric

    ******

    I never realized that Peterson was in contact with Mims while he flew the coup during the initial days after Stacy’s disappearance. Very interesting. So, if LE didn’t keep a watch on him during this time, it seems likely they were later able to determine where he was.

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  46. Drew’s timeline for Oct. 28 (As published in “Drew Peterson Exposed,” by Derek Armstrong)

    5:30-6 a.m. – Drew returns home from his night shift. Before he goes to bed, Stacy tells him she is going to visit her grandfather in the morning.

    10-11 a.m. – The children wake Drew up and he notices that Stacy is not home.

    Noon-1 p.m. – Drew home with children.

    1-1:30 p.m. – Drew runs Sunday errands while Tom and Kris watch Anthony and Lacy.

    2 p.m. – Drew calls in to request the night off because he has accumulated sick time he could use before his December retirement.

    3:15 p.m. – Tom’s school friends pick him for a band concert.

    6 p.m. – Drew takes the three other children to McDonald’s.

    7: 30 p.m. – Drew and the children return home.

    8 p.m. – Tom returns from band concert.

    9 p.m. – Drew is at home when he receives a call from Stacy informing him she is leaving with another man.

    9:15 p.m. – Drew leaves to go look for Stacy.

    11-11:30 p.m. – Drew returns home as Cassandra Cales calls him looking for her sister. Drew tells her Stacy had left him and took clothes, money and her passport.

    11:45 p.m. – Drew walks to the airport to drive Stacy’s car back home.
    Midnight – Drew goes to bed.

    2:30 a.m. – Bolingbrook police call Drew to inform him that Cassandra Cales has filed a missing persons report for Stacy.

    Source: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/archive/x603830732/Peterson-case-timeline

  47. So if Drew was calling Ric during his ‘head clearing’ trip, there should be cell phone pings of those calls, right?

    And of course, we need to wnoder if those call are legit, or more carefully orchestrated calls to place him at certain locations.

    I’d love to hear what Eric has to say about the circumstances of Kathleen Savio’s death.

  48. I wondered why he’d say she went visiting the grandpa instead of going painting which is what she was saying on the phone to the friend that was going to help them paint.

    It is nice that Drew was so relaxed about her leaving him that he was able to hit the sack by midnight. Wouldn’t a man whose wife left him be so angry that they couldn’t sleep? And a man whose wife is missing would be so worried that they couldn’t sleep.

  49. And at the sake of repeating myself, does Drew deny that he took the kids on a trip to Cushing Field that day (at least one hour roundtrip) to replace a registration sticker on his ultralight?

    Add that to questions I would ask Drew…

  50. Guess some of these points are what make Brodsky and Drewpie get along so well:

    “We talked for about an hour and a half,” Brodsky recalled. “He said,’You’re it.’”

    Brodsky said that he brought paperwork, laying out his credentials, but that Peterson made his choice without reading it.
    “He said: ‘The way I decide is I meet somebody. I trust them or I don’t,‘“Brodsky recalled.

    In 1997, he went through a bitter divorce from his first wife, who alleged that he had threatened her life. Brodsky denied the allegation. He was never charged. The following year, Brodsky filed for personal bankruptcy. He blamed his divorce for his financial difficulties.

    In 2001, Brodsky sued Cook County after sheriff’s deputies allegedly removed him from court and shackled him to a chair for refusing orders not to lean against a table and for muttering an obscenity. Brodsky won $55,000 in a settlement.

    Brodsky sued a man for “alienation of affection” for allegedly having an affair with Brodsky’s first wife. A judge awarded Brodsky $75,000 in 1998 when his wife’s alleged lover failed to show up in court. Brodsky said he later settled the case for a few thousand dollars but doesn’t regret bringing the suit.

    “He came over to my house, pretending to be my friend,” Brodsky said. “Then he pulls that [expletive]. … I thought he had to pay for what he did.”

    Whether others approve of Brodsky’s style or not, it may well have helped in his meeting with Peterson in November. In a phone interview last week,Peterson maintained that he picked Brodsky for other than financial reasons.

    “He has a great legal mind. He has the ability to recall cases and points of law that’s uncanny – and Brodsky’s fun,” Peterson said. “He kind of clicks with my personality.”

    Source: http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/jan/15/news/chi-brodskyjan15

    Yup – when faced with possible murder charges I’d pick a lawyer without looking at his/her credentials because I thought he/she was fun. Yup – that and if things go really bad I can always try to get an appeal based on lack of adequate representation. Think about it – my lawyer let me go on all these shows, he even went on them with me and held up photos of my step-brother, he told me to say how terrible he and other potential witneses against me were, he let me get tied to a lie detector test (which I failed on several questions) and have an author write a book about me including informing people of the questions that I failed, and all of this stuff turned everyone against me unfairly! yada, yada, yada…

  51. chicagotribune – Matthew Walberg and Erika Slife – November 7, 2007

    ……Meanwhile, amid media speculation that Drew Peterson had left the area, his close friend Richard Mims said he did not believe that to be true. “I talked to Drew three or four times today,” Mims said. “Drew’s not in hiding—he’s just hiding from the press.”

  52. Rim Mims – seems he’s going to be a wealth of information too:

    Comment by Ric Mims
    November 7th, 2007 at 1:14 am
    Greta,
    I want to clear this up. So much happend right before I went on the show, Steph called to tell me that he was running late due to the State Police being at Drew’s. Right after that Drew called me, and contiuned to call during the broadcast.I made a mistake when you ask me the last time I talked to him, I sorry but as my suspicions grow, This is taking it’s toll on me, I feel like I am walking around in a daze. The phone calls that I recieved from Drew right before your show shook me up. ( yes I have access to my phone records to prove he was calling me.)

  53. I came across this:

    “Fox news reporter saying that DP told her that he went to the airport on Sunday, with the kids, to check on his plane & put a new inspection sticker on it.”

    If I could find the FOX news report that could be a start…

  54. noway406 // June 4, 2008 at 7:17 am

    Oh … one other thing about Mims in that Mike and Juliet interview … he just says that DREW went to Cushing. He does not mention the kids … and in fact, he says that he believes that Drew buried Stacy somewhere around Cushing.

    So this is something Ric said…

  55. Found this quote at ACandyRose:

    The Mike and Juliet in the Morning Show – January 28, 2008

    RIC MIMS: The only thing I found out so far, that he has told me personally, is that he drove down to the airport [Cushing Field] where he kept his ultra light plane to put his FAA stickers on, which aren’t due till the first of the year and we’re talking he went down on the day she went missing.

    MIKE: What do you think happened?

    MIMS: I believe he buried her somewhere down near the airport.”

  56. Come on… You mean they aren’t both very nice men who happened to get hooked up with a woman (or girls in Drew’s case) that were going to make false allegations against them, put them in the poor house, and make them do things that they wouldn’t normally do…

  57. Maybe when Drew took the kids to McDonalds on the day his wife went missing, it was the one in Newark, after he replaced the sticker on his ultralight, which didn’t need to be done until January 1st.

    Left at 6 and got back at 7:30? Maybe if the kids ate in the car…

  58. BTW, I signed up for Digg and “Dug” this post. It was easy and now I can show my approval of other things that I like out there on the Intraweb by hitting the Digg button when it’s available.

  59. I found this Eric Zorn column regarding cell phone “pings”, etc.

    Originally posted: December 6, 2007
    Cell’s tracking ability ought to trigger a ‘ping’

    Cell phones have played a bit part in the ever-unfolding story of the disappearance of Bolingbrook resident Stacy Peterson.

    First, Stacy’s husband, Drew Peterson, who is a suspect in her disappearance, said she called him at about 9 p.m. on Oct. 28, the day she vanished, to say she was leaving him.

    Call records reportedly show her phone calling his at that time. But then a male relative of Drew Peterson’s reportedly said that he was with Peterson at a Starbucks that evening and that Peterson left him briefly with a cell phone and instructions not to answer it if it rang. When it rang, the caller ID read, “Stacy.”

    Officials say Stacy Peterson’s cell phone has not been used since that night, an ominous sign that she’s no longer alive.

    (more) http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/12/cells-tracking.html

    **********
    also, this comment regarding the stickers/airport trip:

    riday Dec 7

    I mentioned on a post a few days back that I thought they also could be checking his tollway transponder – assuming he has one for his car and/or for Stacy’s. If he was really driving around that day and possibly took toll roads, or in the days following before they confiscated his carsm that could tell part of the story. In other posts, a lot of people are confused about him living by Clow Airport (where he says she left her car), and not realizing he doesn’t keep his little plane there – but at Cushing Field in Newark. In some reports I’ve read he took the kids to the airport to put a new registration sticker on his plane. Use of a cell phone or transponder heading to that area would surely be trackable. One more question – haven’t the police been able to interview the step-brother by now? I believe they have narrowed it to a Krispy Kreme where he met with Drew, not a Starbucks. Though they could have been a two places. But the video of that timeframe is at a Krispy. They have to be close to having some solid information.
    Just a matter of time
    Naperville, IL

  60. I can’t find any firsthand accounts of Drew saying he took the kids to the airport for the stickers. Most are like the one Rescue just posted.

  61. Here’s a NG mention by a call-in commenter about the sticker thing:
    NANCY GRACE
    Aired November 7, 2007 – 20:00:00 ET

    CALLER: Hi, Pat. I find it awfully suspicious that Drew Peterson went to the airport the day that she went missing to put an inspection sticker on the plane. Have they questioned anybody at the airport to see if he took the plane out?

    LALAMA: Good question. Keith Oppenheim, CNN correspondent, what about his airplane and his claim that he got her car from another airport but he has got a plane at another airport. How important is that to this investigation?

    OPPENHEIMER: Well, that`s a story that he has been giving as to where he left – where his plane is and where her car was. Police have not given us a lot of details about what they have been looking at in those areas, but that is what one could assume is part of their investigation.

  62. So, Ric Mims and this Fox reporter (and possibly others) could testify that Drew told them about going to Cushing Field that day.

    Doesn’t it seem odd that it then wasn’t included in his ‘official timeline’ in Armstrong’s book?

  63. from Ric:

    rabbitman :
    Date: June 8, 2008 @ 7:14 am

    Ric, when drew went to the airport to put the sticker on his plane did he take all the kids with him?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    I don’t recall.
    Ric

  64. So it will really depend on phone pings and timeline provided by people like Mims.

    I wonder if they ever did any cell phone pings on the phone(s) that Drew’s sons may have. My girls carry theirs all the time ever since they got them whether we have ours our not.

    Drew seems to be on a frequent buyer program though with cell phones so it is possible he buys them with cash and pays for the minutes with cash like drug dealers do. If he signed up for any contracts or paid for any cell phones using any of his debit or credit cards – the LE would have access to that to find any phone he could have used.

    Interestingly in my searches, I did find a comment from Ric Mims that Mike Robinson provided Drew with a phone to use right after Stacy went missing. Ric also said that Drew and Mike were passing notes and then shredding them. Drew admitted to passing a note – but said it was his cell phone number.

    His friendship with Peterson came to light after Ric Mims, a one-time friend of the former sergeant, told the National Enquirer that Robinson provided Peterson with a cell phone after police seized his old one as part of a search warrant. Mims said Peterson and Robinson behaved suspiciously, communicating in handwritten notes. Peterson said the only note passed contained his cell phone number.

  65. So LOL – Why would Drew give Mike his cell phone number if his cell phone was confiscated in the search warrant and Mike was giving him a cell phone??

  66. http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/633460,…oling03.article

    State Police take interest in aircraft

    November 3, 2007
    BY STEFANO ESPOSITO AND DAN ROZEK Staff Reporters

    As divers probed a murky pond Friday searching for clues in the disappearance of Bolingbrook mother Stacy Peterson, Illinois State Police zeroed in on her cop husband’s micro-light airplane.

    Divers spent nearly seven hours painstakingly scouring the pond, near Clow Airport in the far southwestern suburb, but came up with nothing in their search for Peterson.

    And State Police were at a hangar at Cushing Field, about 65 miles southwest of downtown Chicago, for about an hour Friday morning, said Michael Hudetz, a flight instructor at the airfield and owner of A&M Sports, a company selling micro-lights.

    Hudetz said he showed investigators Bolingbrook Police Sgt. Drew Peterson’s two-seater Aquilla Trike and the hangar where Peterson keeps it.

    “They asked a lot of questions,” Hudetz said. “They seemed very interested in how it works. They wanted to know where the people sit, where they put their feet. They wanted to know how the [aircraft’s] parachute works.”

    Investigators also asked Hudetz if there were any “barrels” at the airfield.

    “One of the guys I shook hands with was wearing thin plastic gloves,” Hudetz said.

    But State Police were “very vague” about why they were at the hangar Friday, Hudetz said.

  67. TAI @ #83 – yes, that is what’s been reported, that MR gave DP a cell phone to use. That info was provided by Mims. Mims said DP was told by MR to answer as if it was a heating/air conditioning company, or something like that.

  68. I think he must have meant the number of the cell Mike gave him. Mike wrote it? That’s a bit of a problem when deciphering what someone seemingly barely literate says. He also says things that are deliberately ambiguous…another liars’ trick….

  69. I took a long drive yesterday through the northwest suburbs and at one point the unmistakable smell of death came wafting through the car vents. I could smell it for about a mile. On the return drive I noticed it again. I assume it must have been something big, like a deer, to be so noticable when it was 20 degrees out.

    It did make me think though that Stacy’s remains could be just…anywhere…and how small the odds are of ever finding her.

    Blessings on all who search.

  70. “Peterson said the only note passed contained his cell phone number.”

    So it could very well be the note that Robinson passed to Drew with the number of the new cell phone on it.

    So…why did it need to be shredded?

  71. Bucket, I was going to start adding the digg code going forward, but I guess there’s no reason we can’t do some retrospective “digging”.

    Gimme a little. I have to submit the post URL to Digg and then add the button code to the post.

  72. Why did Ric have to sell his story? Now the prosecution will need to have much more collaberating evidence (such as cell phone pigs, phone records, etc.) to back up any testimony he may give because the defense will argue (and have already argued) that he made up the stories to get money from People magazine and others.

  73. TAI – IMHO, who’s going to give a rat’s ass what Drew’s lawyer puts on in front of a future jury, one who has misled, lied, made-up and created just about most everything that has to do with Drew Peterson?

    Down to him signing a dead man’s name on a check, filing for bankruptcy so he wouldn’t have to pay legal fees to the attorneys for his children during a divorce, and who holed himself up in a house with a shotgun, threatening to kill himself, requiring a swat team to be called? Oh, and throw in there that he told his law partner this is all about them getting book deals out of this!

    He’s done us all a favor by poisoning the future jury pool to the point where they’ll have to be held back from having him shot in front of a firing squad!

  74. Note to potential witnesses of crimes:

    Please, please, please do not give me nor anyone in the media any details that could damage the case against anyone suspected of a crime no matter how much I beg and plead for details and no matter how much the media is willing to pay. And please do not hold back information that could help solve a crime – the “no snitching” policy is what allows the criminals to control us through fear. Do what you would want someone else to do if the victim was the person you love the most.

    Note to the authorities:

    Please, please, please do not let anything slip past you, do not take any shortcuts, do everything ethically and by the book, look under every single stone including the pebbles, look at all of the possibilities, give the same effort no matter who the victim is or what they look like, and promptly release any information that the community may be able to help tie together to provide additional leads or tips regarding the crime at hand. Do the job that you would if the victim was the person you love the most.

  75. Post #99 – that should be cell phone “pings” not cell phone “pigs” (heeheehee!)

    Post #100 – all Drew would need is for one person on that jury to believe the defense team. There are still people out there – many of them – that think Drew is being railroaded. The majority of this world doesn’t follow this case like us goofy people do to even pay attention to the 2 mins that Drew makes the local news.

    The national media has pretty much lost any ounce of interest in this case as Drew’s intentional antics to get media attention fizzle out after being out there locally for a day or two. He just isn’t that big of a celebrity any more.

  76. TAI, I don’t think it’s so much that he’s not as big a celebrity as it is that they are sick of him and his antics.

    I saw a comment on an Eric Zorn column asking that the media give up writing about Drew Peterson for Lent! 🙂

  77. Facs – My comment about him being a “celebrity” was sarcasm because he is probably sad that he doesn’t make national headlines any more.

  78. TAI – yeah, it’s always a possibility that one wayward juror would hold out against a conviction, but it’s not such an easy task, I would think. He or she would have to have a pretty good explanation to convince the other jurors the reason for the hold-out so as not to make it look like a “plant” or otherwise unsavory juror. If the other jurors were to believe that a hold-out was merely obstructing their verdict for their own purpose, I’m sure they’d be able to convince a judge of that during deliberations. Having a plausible reason or explanation is one thing, but I truly find it hard to believe that anyone could be convinced that Drew Peterson is a victim of anything.

    Of course, I know that the defense is looking for that one juror to believe their version. That’s what any defense is looking for in any case. Yes, this case isn’t followed as closely by many as it is by us bloggers and on other blogs and forums, but I think the general public is well aware that Peterson, without knowing the intimate details of what he’s believed to have done, is as much disgusted by him as we are. Just scratching the surface of this fool’s life is enough to give anyone the creeps. Of course, the defense can hope they find one as evil as he is, but that’s another thing.

    That’s JMHO.

  79. Oh man, I hate when stuff disappears. This guy has since removed the Peterson case aerial photos and Google map from his site:

    Allan Goldstein’s “Aerial Images Photography of Illinois” (www.aerialimages-photo.com)

    Comment by Allan Goldstein February 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    “I am a professional aerial photographer in Chicago who has flown many hours of searching for Stacy with Ric Mims, Jon Lieberman of Americas Most Wanted program, even 2 of Gretas producers, Cory and Carrie and other interested parties….Every time, I flew around the Bolingbrook countryside, I took numerous aerial photographs. Using GPS technology I was able to put them up on a Google map so people could have an opportunity to see the Bolingbrook area and areas of specific interest to this case. I encourage you to visit and take a look of some very interesting photographs. My website is http://www.aerialimages-photo.com and the Google map contains about 200 aerial photographs of the Peterson house, Cushing Field (where Drew kept his ultralight), the Duck Club he belongs to, and the canal where the police felt the body was dumped.”

  80. TAI, sorry I missed the sarcasm! Where’s that eyerolling smiley when you need it?

    Noway, I was brought up Catholic and I never heard of the “except on Sundays loophole”. Dang, in my family Sundays were even more tightassed than the rest of the week. We couldn’t even have friends over or go play at their houses.

  81. thinkaboutit2 Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 12:03 pm
    I wondered why he’d say she went visiting the grandpa instead of going painting which is what she was saying on the phone to the friend that was going to help them paint.

    It is nice that Drew was so relaxed about her leaving him that he was able to hit the sack by midnight. Wouldn’t a man whose wife left him be so angry that they couldn’t sleep? And a man whose wife is missing would be so worried that they couldn’t sleep.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Drew tells different stories at different times because Drew tells lies (!)

    and yes Drew can sleep soundly when his wife has just gone missing as he received a call from Bruce Zidarich around 2.30 am which he can’t really remember if he received it or not (??)

    (see Drews “official” timeline”)

    of course at that time Drew wasn’t angry either and it wasn’t “the height of disrespect” or the money she “stole” out of his safe or the fact she “ran away with another man” – NO – Drew was just tired, went to bed at midnight and slept soundly.

    as one does when your wife and mother of your children is just discovered missing !!!!!!!

  82. Facs is a tightassed Catholic! LOL!! That cracked me up!! We never got the Sunday exceptions either.

    I’m getting ready for my annual lenten season by drinking 4 Coca Colas and eating lots of chocolate today as I prepare for weeks without them. My plan this year is to also give up eating meat completely and learn how to cook up some easy but good vegetarian dishes at dinner time.

    I also try to not just look at lent as a time to give things up. I look at it as a time to give. I vow to do things like visit the in-laws more and to be nicer to others.

  83. Facs, there was no Sunday loophole in my house growing up either.

    I thought my nieces and nephews were just trying to get out of their Lenten resolution when they told me.

    Found this on the Internet.

    Technically, Sundays are not part of Lent. Although we celebrate them liturgically as part of Lent, the Lord’s Day cannot be a day of fast and abstinence. Six weeks of Monday through Saturday gives you 36 days. If you add to them Ash Wednesday and the three days after it, you get the 40 days of Lent.

    http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Feb2002/wiseman.asp#F5

  84. Once again, the phone call:

    Dr. Phil: The next question, “Do you know the whereabouts of your wife Stacy?” Answer: “No.” Results: “deceptive.” Next question, “Did you receive a phone call from your wife, Stacy, on the evening of October 28th, 2007, telling you that she was leaving you?” You answered “Yes” and the result was “deceptive.” Now, any thought, theory or idea as to why that would come up deceptive if you were telling the truth?

    Drew Peterson: I have no idea. I can’t even answer for it.

  85. Facs – you crack me up!!! 🙂

    Since you grew up Catholic – I’ll bet you feel kind of guilty for being an athiest now (if you really are)!! You can’t breed that guilt out of us!!

  86. No the guilt is like a bad tattoo — no walking away from that. But it’s not specific to anything. I’m just stuck with it.

  87. According to Mims, what first made him doubt Drew were timeline discrepancies.

    TIMELINE:

    10-11 a.m. – The children wake Drew up and he notices that Stacy is not home.

    Noon-1 p.m. – Drew home with children.

    1-1:30 p.m. – Drew runs Sunday errands while Tom and Kris watch Anthony and Lacy.

    From Nancy Grace:

    MIMS: Well, at first, when Drew first told me that, and that was that Tuesday night, I was still kind of in shock about the whole thing. So the main thing was that I wanted to help take care of the kids, let him get his head together. But as details came out, like with his timeline not matching up with the cars being in the driveway, and then the car shows up over at Clow (ph), which is, like, a five-minute walk from his house, and then the…

    BROOKS: So where they found the car was a five-minute walk from their house?

    MIMS: Correct.

    BROOKS: And he found the car.

    MIMS: Stacy supposedly called and told him that she found somebody else, she`s taking a vacation, If you want the car, it`s parked over at Clow.

    BROOKS: And if that — what did he say what time that was?

    MIMS: 9:00 o`clock, 9:00 PM.

    BROOKS: 9:00 PM.

    MIMS: Right. When I asked him when the last time he saw Stacy, he said, Well, when he got up at 11:00 AM, she was already gone. But from 11:00 AM to 1:30 PM, both cars were still in the driveway.

    BROOKS: How do you know this?

    MIMS: Sharon (ph), the neighbor, plus all the neighbors` reports from (INAUDIBLE) all created a timeline.

    BROOKS: Right. So both cars were there when he said that she had already left.

    MIMS: Right.

  88. Facs –
    And just how crazy is it that you feel “…the guilt is like a bad tattoo — no walking away from that” and Dopey feels… like it’s time to go cruising for a new paramour / babysitter / maid?…

    pfffff….

  89. Some interesting excerpts from Laura Ingle/Fox News. This was not an scheduled interview, it was spontaneous. Notice, like he did with Shepherd Smith, he blew off the blue barrel question.

    November 26th, 2007 2:32 PM Eastern
    My conversation with Drew

    (excerpt) I asked him point blank what his story was about the report that he was seen loading a blue barrel out of his house with a friend around the same time that Stacy was reported missing, and he shrugged that off with a smile, and said he had nothing to say about that and shook his head, like “no way, that didn’t happen.” Then HE brought up the scuba diving weights that are reportedly missing from his house. We’ve been hearing that Drew had a lot of scuba gear in the garage, and that when the search warrant was executed, the weights were gone. He says not true. He went on to say that he hopes that the FBI’s involvement in the case will help clear his name and then said he had to go inside. I had so many other questions for him….

    I’ve talked to people who have been questioned by investigators about Drew and Stacy’s bedroom furniture. One person reportedly has said that they saw Drew carry out a nightstand that was there when cops originally took pictures inside their house after she vanished, and then when they went back to take more pictures, it was gone. A neighbor who knows Stacy well, was asked by the cops to draw the layout of the furniture in that room on a piece of paper.

  90. Remember also when Sharon rang the house around mid morning, there was the uncomfortable silence with one of the boys when she asked to speak to Stacy, Drew then took the phone and said Stacy had gone to visit Grandpa.

    Sharon then asked for the children to come over and Drew said he will make them lunch and bring them over afterwards.

    Isn’t that the time he ran some “errands” ?

    Wonder what frame of mind the children were in at that time as they’ve just witnessed their parents arguing and “it suddenly gone quiet” etc

    Not surprising Drew is so leery of Sharon as she holds the key to many events that day !

  91. Oh Gah, Pretzer made yet another radio response to the comments he’s gotten lately but he still never addresses the issue that I originally brought up. Oh well, he’s been doing this 11 years – he must be a pro at twisting things around to promote himself by this time.

    I left a comment anyway:

    I’ll say it again, and maybe at some time you’ll address my actual comment, instead of answering to some charge I never made. Two radio replies later and you have yet to do it, Dana.

    The fact is I have no problem with you interviewing anyone on your program. My only issue is that rather than ask the murder suspect and his attorney questions that would let people know or understand more about the case you either, a)completely withdraw and let them ramble at length as if they are reading from a press release or, b) prod them towards a subject that is of interest to yourself and prompt their answers.

    Like so:

    “Drew, A police officer over thirty years. We usually put people before the courts. We usually don’t go before the courts. Of course, there’s this stigma about bad cops and this cop did this bad and that cop did that bad. You’re going to be going to trial on a weapons charge. You’re going to be vilified again and again and again in the media.”

    “Let me interject for a second, and I know I’m going to get in trouble for this because, but the infidelities or the discussion about women and all that and right or wrong or how you say it – and I’m going to get Drew to comment on this in a second. It’s a cop thing. OK? And, police officers, it takes a special kind of woman to stay married to a police officer. It takes a special kind of police officer to stay married. I know and have been around police officers for a long long time and many of them, my parents included, I’m amazed to see that they’ve been married thirty-forty years. A lot of them are two, three, four, five years. There’s the stress, there’s everything that’s involved in it and I’m wondering Drew, if that’s not part of this. You can’t be proud of some things, I’m sure, that you’ve maybe done in the past with relationships but is there a cop angle to this? And I’m not trying to justify it by any means I’m just speaking.”

    “Drew…you agreed to take a polygraph and some questions came back truthful. Some did not. We won’t get into that.”

    “Joel Brodsky…I know the media won’t lay off and when the time does come if it does come you’re going to be bombarded big time…”

    “You got slammed pretty hard in the media last week Joel, or the week before or whatever it was. Basically, you were accused of orchestrating an engagement between Drew and the young lady and it was something that I’d like you to address right now.”

    “Drew, you say yourself sometimes you’re your own worst enemy. You say things that just don’t come out right or like you say, are edited or they take one piece of a clip and obviously it makes you look bad. The media is going to try to do this again and you know that.”

    “It’s a different society today when it comes to the media and these high profile cases even what it was five years ago, because it’s now big time, big money and there’s a big audience for it out there that they’re going to be on every story and yours will go on for a long time yet.”

    Well, come to think of it maybe you DID actually answer my question at one point when you said this:

    “To be honest with you when Drew Peterson is on the program it’s one of the highest rated programs that we have…If I brought Drew Peterson on and accused him of being a murderer and all this sort of stuff, do you think that he’d return to my program?”

  92. JAH: Well consider all of this:

    9:40 a.m.: Sharon Bychowski, on the way to the grocery store, saw both vehicles in driveway.

    10:15 – 10:25: Bruce Zidarch called Stacy to talk about meeting to paint that day. She told him she was still in bed, but they made plans to meet. They hung up around 10:25 a.m.

    11:55 a.m.: Sharon returned from the store and saw only the Petersons’ GMC Yukon Denali in the driveway. Stacy’s car was gone.

    Who moved Stacy’s car? Drew? Did he manage to do this undetected, or did someone see him move the car? A neighbor (as one saw him carry out a blue barrel with Morphey)? The teens? Since it was so close to home where he was “told by Stacy” to pick it up, he could have slipped out and gotten back home quickly enough. Until it is confirmed or denied someday, it’s open for speculation, heh?

    Mind you, all during this time, Stacy made NO effort to call anyone. Not her runaway lover,so she could meet up with him. Also, apparently, there is no record of her having previous contact with this mystery man, who just happened to vaporize from nowhere and vaporize back into oblivion right along with Stacy. She made no attempt to call her friend Rosetto, whom Drew was so quick to accuse of being her lover, not her sister. No one.

    When Sharon returned from the store, she called the house to tell them she brought back suckers for the kids and Drew got on the phone after she asked for Stacy. Drew told Sharon Stacy went to her grandpa’s to do errands for him. Sharon told him she had treats for the kids and he said he would fix the kids some lunch and be over.

    1 p.m.: Drew Peterson came over with his children and told Sharon he had to run an errand. He said he would be back in 15 minutes, and he was. During that time Kris told Sharon he heard Drew and Stacy fighting, and then he heard them not fighting.

    1:00-1:15 p.m. The kids were out of the house. What “errand” did he run during this time????

    1:15 Drew returns and collects the kids.

    1:30 p.m. and 1:48 p.m. Both Cassandra and Sharon called Stacy’s cell phone, and it went straight to voice mail.

    After that time, Drew called into work and said he wouldn’t be in. His lawyer denied for him that he ever met with Tom Morphey, but if it is true he did, then he would have had to contact him somehow. I’m pretty sure he’d use the modern invention called the phone to do that. I also believe that Drew is worried about Morphey because he’s doing his best, through his attorney, to discredit him and make him out to be a mindless zombie. He can deny all he wants, but most of what is being reported can easily be verified.

  93. Yeah, Pretzer forgot one little thing – the one thing that HE brought up about all of this. Not fairness, not balance, not two sides to his pretend interviews, but this:

    “To be honest with you when Drew Peterson is on the program it’s one of the highest rated programs that we have…If I brought Drew Peterson on and accused him of being a murderer and all this sort of stuff, do you think that he’d return to my program?”

    He sounded like a sniveling, whiny baby with his commentary. Whining about whether all of the other media that has DP on gets emails like he does.

    Oh, grow up!

  94. Then HE brought up the scuba diving weights that are reportedly missing from his house. We’ve been hearing that Drew had a lot of scuba gear in the garage, and that when the search warrant was executed, the weights were gone. He says not true.

    Joel Brodsky also denied that any scuba weights were missing from Drew’s house.

    Which means they could be weights of another nature. Or scuba something else. 🙄

  95. Pretzer asks what the difference is between him having Drew on the show and other people interviewing Drew.

    The difference is that other people don’t pander to him and fawn over him, play softball and allow their show to be used by his defense attorney in exchange for ratings and then pretend that it’s done that way in the interest of being objective. Objective? See the quotes obove! All the while he tries to convince his audience that he is superior to the “mainstream media.” Dana Pretzer has no integrity.

    I guess that’s the difference.

  96. Regarding the scuba weights which are missing from Drew’s home, how much did those weights weigh? (Asked by NoWay)

    There are no missing weights, suba or otherwise, missing from Drew’s home.

  97. Is this a “Brodsky” moment or what:

    Meanwhile, Peterson’s attorney is disputing a report that Stacy Peterson told a clergyman in August that her husband confessed to her that he killed his former wife, Kathleen Savio, and made it look like an accident.

    Brodsky told FOX News that Drew Peterson was “totally amazed and in disbelief” when he heard about the report.

    “It’s disturbing that a clergyman would violate his oath of confidentiality,” Brodsky said.

    Now, which is it? Is it a lie as in the first paragraph, or is Brodsky merely pissed that Pastor Schori “confided” in law enforcement that Drew admitted to Stacy he killed Kathleen?

    Cuz, I want to have my flash cards in order.

  98. FYI

    #128 was my question to Joel at SYM and his response.

    (Re: Q & A for joel Brodsky Only 10 per day/« Result #101 on May 25, 2008, 9:50am »)

  99. rescueapet Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 6:15 pm
    Amen Facs @ #127!

    He ADMITTED it’s all about ratings. So, he should just:

    STFU.

    Isn’t it always about the ratings and how many people are watching (or listening) to your show? Or reading your book? Don’t all reporters (Aussienat excluded) shoot for the ratings?

  100. Noway –
    So, Brodsky’s response to you was, “There are no missing weights, suba or otherwise, missing from Drew’s home.” But, if Dopey knows Where the weights Are, it doesn’t matter if they’re in his home or not. They’re not “missing” if he knows where they are.

  101. Well done Facs!
    Pretzer is a big blowhard (in more ways than one), thanks for calling him on his shit interview technique like so:

    a)completely withdraw and let them ramble at length as if they are reading from a press release or, b) prod them towards a subject that is of interest to yourself and prompt their answers.

    I’ll call him on this shit:

    “Let me interject for a second, and I know I’m going to get in trouble for this because, but the infidelities or the discussion about women and all that and right or wrong or how you say it.”

    Pretty shocking to see it in print, huh. Guess that’s why he’s on the radio.

  102. This is what he had to say about the Pastor to Dan Abrams:

    JB: This guy is a certified counsellor and a mandatory reporter. After SP tells him about this the pastor says “that’s nice, go home and pray.” This is what he’s report for weeks now in several different media. It doesn’t even make sense.

    DA: Maybe it makes sense because clergy hear a lot of things and they need to consider the circumstances and what effect reporting might have. He may have wanted to help her resolve her issues first.

    JB: He wanted to help her? When someone confesses to murder? He has an obligation to report. If I were SP’s family I would be looking for an attorney to sue this pastor.

    Stacy’s family should sue the pastor because he didn’t immedately report her statements about a murder….that his client is innocent of?

  103. If I were SP’s family I would be looking for an attorney to sue this pastor.
    * * * * *
    Yeah, we know you would. LOL

  104. Stacy’s family should sue the pastor because he didn’t immedately report her statements about a murder….that his client is innocent of

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, LOL, LOL,

    that makes about much sense as Drew/Brodsky saying the first autopsy (accident)was better when the second autopsy revealed Kathleen was murdered.

    If this weren’t so utterly tragic it would be comical !

  105. Regarding Armstrong’s version of idiot’s timeline, he is noted by the Sun Times: “At one point, he describes Peterson as an enigma — but not a killer.

    He backs that assertion with Peterson’s own hour-by-hour breakdown of how he spent Oct. 28, 2007 — the day Stacy Peterson vanished, leaving behind their two young children. Authorities previously have questioned the timeline Peterson gave them.”

    This is supposed to be an hour-by-hour breakdown of Peterson’s day:

    2 P.M.* Calls work (Bolingbrook police). Takes the night off. (Did this because he was retiring in December and had accumulated sick time to use or lose.
    3:15 P.M.* Tom, his 14-year-old son, is picked up by friends for a band concert.
    6 P.M.* Takes Kris, Anthony and Lacy to McDonald’s. They have dinner and play at the playground at McDonald’s.

    Umm, between 2pm and 6pm is not an hour-by-hour breakdown. There’s a notation that Tom is picked up at 3:15 for band practice. Yeah, so what? Was anyone else home, say between the hours of 2pm and 6pm, when he says he then took the kids to McDonalds? To me, there’s a 4-hour lag there with no explanation of his whereabouts. Doesn’t say he’s home, doesn’t say he isn’t.

  106. I hope you don’t mind me posting this, it’s pretty long, but apposite and worth recording in the cafe. (although move or remove, please Facs, if you think..)

    By RAY HANANIA

    This week, two candidates running against the Town President of Cicero were returned to the April 7 election ballot there after they were removed by the local election board, which consists of the incumbent Cicero politicians.

    The story has made every newspaper. The claim is that Cicero’s Town President, Larry Dominick, is unfair and that his board dumped the challengers unfairly.

    Yet, during the same six weeks in Chicago’s 145 suburban communities, challengers seeking to unseat local incumbents have been and remain thrown off the ballot and yet no one cares.

    Why is it that Cicero deserves so much attention but Bolingbrook and other suburban communities do not?

    Part of it is a bias in the news media where some reporters are cozy with the U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who has built his career in politically targeting some communities and ignoring those that are friends. Cicero is on his hotlist. The majority of other suburban communities are not.

    But, it’s not just the US Attorney. It’s also the news media too, whose reporters live in many of the suburbs where incumbents are protected. They don’t live in Cicero so Cicero, in their minds, is fair game.

    The real issue is not Cicero. That’s just a ruse to distract you from the heart of a corrupt system that remains in play and is the law of Illinois, not just in Cicero, but in every suburban community in Illinois.

    It’s the law of Illinois, not the Town President of Cicero, who determined that the incumbents in any village have the right to form a panel to review any challenges to the petitions and candidate forms submitted by their opponents.

    In other words, the hypocritical media that does nothing about the law and the lawmakers in this state are the ones who set the rules and said a local village can throw the challengers off the ballot.

    Why then do they not change it? Because the establishment likes the law. The incumbents are the lawmakers. They want the power to throw challengers off the ballot and to rule against the challengers themselves when they dare to try to throw the incumbents off the ballots. And since the media only covers Cicero and ignores the struggles of most of the challengers thrown off ballots throughout the suburban Chicagoland, the system works for them.

    It isn’t just Cicero’s president whose allies on the Town board used their powers to throw challengers off the ballot. In fact, it was a common practice of such popular candidates as, yes, President Barack Obama. In his first campaign for public office, running for state Senator in 1996, he challenged his opponents and knocked all four of his challengers off the ballot. Obama never had to have his ideas judged against competitors for the political office by the voters because in knocking his challengers off the ballot, he decided the election on his own.

    A candidate for mayor in Bolingbrook, Bonnie Kurowski-Alicea, was also tossed off the April 7 ballot in her efforts to unseat incumbent Mayor Roger Claar. Among the complaints, the Bolingbrook incumbents who reviewed the petitions of the challenger asserted that her signatures didn’t match.

    Ironically – or not so surprisingly – in the local election board rulings, the accused are forced to prove their facts while challengers are not. Was it the responsibility of the Bolingbrook election board, which consisted of the village’s incumbent officials and their pals, to prove that the signatures were wrong because they “looked different?” Or, was it the challenger who was forced to prove that those were her signatures, even though they were notarized and witnessed.

    Alicea is a college professor. Claar is the mayor whose police department has been protecting Drew Peterson, the guy who is suspected in the disappearance of his current wife and the murder of his previous wife.

    In Orland Park, two incumbent trustees ruled against the challenges filed by Gerald Maher, the man seeking to unseat their colleague, the mayor of Orland Park Dan McLaughlin.

    In Blue Island, Democratic Committeeman and State Rep. Bob Rita and his allies reviewed and threw out the petitions of an entire slate of candidates who were challenging of all people, Rita’s mother, who is the candidate for supervisor. How often can a son give his mother an unchallenged election victory before the election?

    What was Rita’s defense? In a media report, he was quoted as saying “the law” entitled him to sit on the review board that ruled that his mother’s challengers were disqualified from running in the election.

    In Fox Valley in the far west suburbs, eight challengers were thrown off local election ballots and now a slew of incumbents are running unchallenged in local elections.

    The reasons for the objections often cite technicalities like, they didn’t fasten the petition filings properly. A signature doesn’t look like a real signature.

    What can those removed from office do? They are forced to go to the Cook County judicial system, which is also both corrupt and political, too, and spend a fortune to try and reverse the rulings of their biased local election boards. Once the challengers are removed, not even the flimsy reasons are good enough to get them back on the ballot.

    What should be done? First of all, the state should set up an independent election board consisting of everyday citizens to review the challenges. And, only the most egregious complaints should be considered seriously.

    If two signatures don’t look like they were made by the same person, then it is up to the incumbents to PROVE they were forged. It shouldn’t be up to the person who signed the documents to prove it was their signature.

    All of the ridiculous rules should be thrown out and new consolidated rules implemented that require only two things: You have lived in the election district for at least one year, and you collect a minimum number of signatures from voters in that district. And I mean an absolute minimum.

    The purpose is to save the people of Illinois money. Every kangaroo court challenge is a waste of the taxpayer dollars. And, when challengers are removed from the ballot, the election itself becomes a waste of money when the incumbents are re-elected unchallenged on the election ballots.

    The entire system the way it is set up today is a scam.

    So until that’s changed, take all the bluster in the media attacking Cicero with a grain of salt and recognize that the stories are a distraction from the larger problem the biased media and their cohorts in the political system do not want you to see.

    It doesn’t cost much to get screwed in Cook County. But it costs a fortune to get justice.

    http://www.swnewsherald.com/online_content/2009/02/022009rh_cicero.php

  107. Armstrong’s “timeline”:

    8 P.M.* Tom gets home from band concert.
    9 P.M.* At home, receives call from Stacy that she found someone and is leaving.
    9:15 P.M.* Leaves home to go and look for Stacy.

    8pm – so what – Tom gets home from band practice. That means what? He was dropped off at 8pm and that proves……????

    9pm – boy that cellphone of Stacy’s gets around. It’s home, but it’s not, then it’s ringing in Morphey’s hand in a park, but it’s not really.

    Wherever that magic cell phone was, even though DP admits that Stacy told him she ran away and left her car at the airport, he drives around the Sanitary & Ship Canal to look for her and the car, as admitted on Dr. Phil.

    Brodsky – sue the cell phone provider. They’ve sold a phone to the Petersons that implicates Drew in a missing person’s case by jumping around. Hurry.

  108. You find out the mother of your children was murdered in her own home and right under your nose and you don’t say: “who the f… murdered the mother of my precious children”, you say “the first autopsy was better” (!!)

  109. 6 P.M.* Takes Kris, Anthony and Lacy to McDonald’s. They have dinner and play at the playground at McDonald’s.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Also are there any phone records from Drew to Stacy if she is going to come home for dinner/join them at McDonalds or did Drew already automatically “assume” Stacy wouldn’t be coming home at any time at all ??

  110. JAH – Remember, Drew didn’t call Stacy that day. At all. Even though he routinely called her throughout the day. But that day he was giving her ‘her space”. 😉

  111. facsmiley Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    JAH – Remember, Drew didn’t call Stacy that day. At all. Even though he routinely called her throughout the day. But that day he was giving her ‘her space”.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, so much space he doesn’t even need to know if she is coming home for dinner/join them at McDonalds or if she is coming home to put the kids to bed.

    He just takes it all in his stride and patiently waits for her to ring in her own good time.

    Just as well she “rang” at 9 pm or he’d still be waiting ……..

  112. Crapsky and Bacon Face really do suffer from protesting too much. I could already see Shortsky was a jerk, but when he started arguing with the autops(ies) he just completely looked like an imbecile.

    Protesting too much doesn’t usually work in the end. I am reminded of a prime example: During the storm that surrounded Sienna Miller and Balthazar Getty,whether it was Miller’s people maipulating google with like 900,000 entries of “Sienna Miller ;’I Am Not A Slut’,or it was quoted that many times from other sources, there it was “SIENNA MILLER: I AM NOT A SLUT right at the top of searches, in a highlighted box, no less. It made me rofl.

  113. Oh dear. I don’t usually call anyone fat or bacon-faced. It’s late and I’m cranky, lol. I’ll listen to Justice Interrupted over my first bucket of tea tomorrow. Nice night, all. 🙂

  114. facsmiley Says:

    February 24, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    JAH – Remember, Drew didn’t call Stacy that day. At all. Even though he routinely called her throughout the day. But that day he was giving her ‘her space”.

    ***

    OK – So is this an obvious question… Why was he giving her space BEFORE he knew she had left him if she didn’t call him to say that until 9pm if he claims they didn’t have a fight that morning?? He certainly made it seem like the phone call at 9pm was the first he knew that she was taking off.

    Am I missing something here??

  115. The show was great. Both Susan and Hosey said that they had some information that had just recently been obtained but are unable to release as of yet. Hosey says DP will be arrested in the next few weeks if he is ever arrested.
    Make sure you go and listen.

  116. I was just listening to the download. I’d urge everyone to go listen. These are our kinds of people!

    Hosey expects an arrest will happen in the next seven weeks or not at all. But later on he did say that he had learned a couple of things in the last two weeks that make him wonder why charges have not been brought. He thinks they should be brought in Stacy’s case even though it will be the harder one to prove.

    They said that Joel called Hosey’s editor and tried to get him fired over something he wrote recently. He’s accused Joe of somehow hacking into Drew’s computer.

    They all believe that Drew must be getting some percentage of Armstrong’s book. They agreed it was awful and Hosey said it was worse than that – it was an embarrassment and a sham. He knows that Brodksy denied Drew is getting money from it but he said he’ll call him a liar.

    Joe also addressed how Brodsky keeps crowing that if there is a wrongful death suit brought it will be fine with him because then he can depose people…but he seems not to realize that it also means Drew can be deposed.

    Their responses to a reality show in the works, Mancow appearances and more. Great stuff. Go listen!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/justiceinterrupted

    Original Air Date: 2/24/2009 10:00 PM

    Fatal Vows
    This weeks guests include Joseph Hosey Reporter and Author of the Drew Peterson Book-Fatal Vows; Julie Spira of Cyberdating.com and Famed Defense attorney David Diamond are on the show. Join Hosts: Prosecutor and Author Robin Sax, Police Officer and Author Stacy Dittrich, Advocate and Author Susan Murphy-Milano each week as they provide justice for those whose lives have been interupted by rape, murder, child sexual predators, strange and unexplained disappearances, domestic violence, and cold cases yet to be solved…

  117. As a friend of Hosey, I can tell you for a fact that Joe has no idea how to hack computers. His girlfriend runs the Fatal Vows MySpace page because he has no idea how to do it. He knows how to check email and that is about it.

  118. I don’t know how anyone can say “Drew will be charged in so many weeks or not at all” as that is not how LE works.

    Drew can be charged at any time for the duration of his natural life if LE has sufficient cause to do so.

  119. OK – So is this an obvious question… Why was he giving her space BEFORE he knew she had left him if she didn’t call him to say that until 9pm if he claims they didn’t have a fight that morning?? He certainly made it seem like the phone call at 9pm was the first he knew that she was taking off.

    Am I missing something here??

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    Exactly TAI !

    Unless he had a crystal ball ( or killed her) he couldn’t have known Stacy wasn’t going to come back that day or ever, so him saying he was giving Stacy “space” that particular day doesn’t make any sense.

  120. Very interesting to hear Joe H say he’s learned some new facts within the last couple of weeks, but wonders why Peterson hasn’t yet been charged.

    I always try and remember what Sergeant Burek, of the ISP (who oversaw the Peterson investigations) said during an interview last year:

    …”It was unbelievable amount of information that was gathered on this case, mindboggling what we know, how found out and amounts of data sorted out, he went on to say, “I definitely think this investigation team is going to bring to conclusion very confident arrest made some day.”

    Sergeant Burek has to have his bags packed, ready to head to Chicago at anytime and says he’s a part of this case until it goes from investigation to prosecution.

  121. Good Morning!
    Oh, I did enjoy the radio!
    I’ve just spent ages trying to find the particularly stinging recent Hosey piece that must be the one that put a match to Broadsky’s pants, but can’t find. Do you know which one I mean and where it is? Just wanted to reread! ….what makes JB think Joe’s hacked into the murderer’s computer? hmmmm?

    I’m afraid that the reason an arrest may not occur will be a web of ciminal/political patronage, but wish to be proved wrong.

  122. I wonder…What are these “facts” Mr Hosey has learned about ?
    I wonder…Just what makes them “facts” ??

    I wonder…Will there ever be an arrest and trial in this case ?

    Now those are some “facts” I want to know !

    Good morning everyone. Happy GJ eve !!!

  123. Hosey expects an arrest will happen in the next seven weeks or not at all.

    I don’t understand the seven weeks time frame. Is the GJ expected to end in 7 weeks, and they will either have enough evidence to indict or not?

    Did JH explain this at all? I’ll go listen later this morning.

    And Bucket, if I thought Larry King would change his ways, I’d be all for complaining to him :D. I don’t think he’d listen, no more than I think Dana Pretzer (another DP!) is going to.

    Are there any reporters who have asked the tough questions?

    I can think of one: Shepard Smith

    And what he got was Drew walking off (priceless IMO). But because of that, I love watching Shephard Smith no matter what he’s talking about.

    And of course, the Morning Show with Mike and Juliet, which will always be one of my favorites.

    As far as Joel saying there were no weights, “suba” or otherwise, missing from Drew’s home, they were probably kept in the garage and that’s where they are missing from. IMO that is Joel’s effort to skirt around the issue.

  124. I’ve gone back and had another look…could JB be angry about the reality show/steve carcerano scoop? Arranged by email, perhaps?

    Yeah, the Mike and Juliet Show was legend 😀

  125. Why thank you, but I was sort of already climbing that tree.;-)

    Cup of tes sounds like it might make a refreshing change, lol.
    Recovery still going well, Wonder? Hope so!

  126. I think that Joe Hosey made an interesting comment right at the end of his time that he had tried to get his newspaper to report on the Kathleen Savio case when it happened and that maybe if they had done so then there wouldn’t be a Stacy Peterson case.

    Was anyone else aware of him doing that? I guess I thought he just did reporting on Kathleen after Stacy’s disappearance.

  127. The most disturbing thing to me is the distinct possibility that it is not just about image or record or spin how could it be, really, if the incumbents and their alliances of whatever kind don’t give a toss for your opinion, because they have no opponents on the ballot!!!

    If the Feds don’t sort this out now, I think your best bet in Illinois is to petition the UN election monitors next time. If this goes on, you’re stuffed for at least another term…(even more)

    Now, I could go all European-style xenophobic on you and and say something like “there they go, and Americans try to tell the rest of the world what to do.” but of course the fact is that corruption and greed is everywhere….the difference is that right there in Illinois, USA, is the solution. The mechanisms exist to change this. It’s really all about paying attention and standing up to the bullies.
    All of them.

  128. justanotherhen Says:

    February 25, 2009 at 2:30 am e
    I don’t know how anyone can say “Drew will be charged in so many weeks or not at all” as that is not how LE works.

    Drew can be charged at any time for the duration of his natural life if LE has sufficient cause to do so.
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    That was discussed as well. Everyone should really listen to the broadcast for themselves and not take my rushed notes as gospel – I just took note of the things that stood out to me the most but you need to get the whole context.

  129. Ah, politics. You have the President of the United States suggesting that a certain newly appointed Illinois Senator reflect on his options for the future. Point: resign.

    Does he do it? Nope. The President of the United States can’t convince a “memory deficient,” newly appointed Senator, with an ego the size of a planet, to resign for the good of the Nation, and we’re supposed to live happily ever after with our local officials? Ones that can’t even bring an ex-sergeant from a small Chicago southwest suburb to justice?

  130. Was anyone else aware of him doing that? I guess I thought he just did reporting on Kathleen after Stacy’s disappearance.

    TAI, I believe he was the only reporter who covered the inquest.

    If not the only one then one of very few.

    I think this information is either in his book or came out around the time his book came out.

    He was being interviewed by someone but I cannot remember who it was. He was very quiet about “tooting his own horn” …

  131. That first paragraph in 179 is me quoting TAI but forgetting to add the codes I wanted.

    The rest is my thoughts.

    I have to log off because this thread is running slow but will be back in a bit.

  132. Most exciting is an alliance between Susan Murphy Milano and Joe Hosey….after admitting their inclination would be to blow the lid off if there’s no arrest forthcoming soon. (7 weeks)…unless I misunderstood?

  133. Noway, yes I had read before that he covered the original inquest into Kathleen’s death.

    I’ll get a new post started soon. In the meantime, if the thread is slow for you and you haven’t downloaded and installed the Turbo/Gears thingy, I’d urge you to do so. You can find it in your WP dashboard.

  134. I found one of the clips from the Dr. Phil interview with Drew that brings up more interesting questions about Drew calling or not calling Stacy and giving or not giving her space:

    at 6:49 in video:

    Dr. Phil: Why did you not call her the day she disappeared?

    Drew: I did. But she, there was, she wanted her space. She wanted her space. So that day I gave her her space.

    So he said he did call her but doesn’t say when. What was the conversation that he had with her where she said or implied she wanted her space?? What time was this call as it is not noted in the official Drew Peterson Exposed timeline.

    Later on in the interview he said he was with Tom the day before Stacy disappeared. Could that indicate premediation??

    at 8:21 in the video:

    Dr. Phil: Well, the phone records show that you were near the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Chanel the day she went missing. Were you there?

    Drew: Yes I was driving through that area.

    Dr. Phil: What were you doing there?

    Drew: I was looking for her in a couple of spots I thought that she might be – and I was looking for my car – that she was driving.

    Is this where Drew used to “court” Stacy? Where over here did he think she was hanging out? If she wanted space – why was he physically out looking for her? Was he giving her space or not? What time was he out looking for her car when he claims she told him at 9pm exactly where it was?? Why look for the car before that call if he was giving her space?? If he was trying to find her why would he run out instead of calling her family or the people he thought she was supposed to be with?

    And I also found it very interesting that at every single turn and question – Joel refers to there not being evidence that will hold up in a court of law rather than just saying his client is innocent. Huge difference IMO. A lawyer should always say their client is innocent – period. The way Joel words it sure makes it sound like Joel doesn’t believe his client is innocent – only that he’d win a circumstantial court case.

  135. This page is acting goofy for me this morning. Sometimes it flips into a mode where it is a white background and none of the pics or formatting. I haven’t seen it do that before but it happened 3x to me already.

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