Pal of Bindy Rock Questioned in Drew Peterson case

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Bindy Rock pal: Jamie Katro

Bindy Rock pal: Jamie Katro

Woman says she was questioned in Peterson case

April 15, 2009

By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com
A local woman says state police paid her a visit while she was doing time in Dwight Correctional Center and grilled her about what she knows of Stacy Peterson’s disappearance.

The woman, 31-year-old Jamie Katro, did not tell them much during the two-hour interview.

“No — uh, uh, nothing,” Katro said of what she told troopers when they questioned her in late February. “To me, that’s what they’re getting paid for. Let them do their job.”

But Katro says she has heard a few things about what may have befallen Peterson, who vanished in October 2007 and has been the subject of a massive and lengthy state police investigation.

“Like she’s not at the bottom of a lake,” Katro said. “I heard they ran her through a funeral home and cremated her, her ashes.”

Katro said she has never met Peterson or her husband, Drew Peterson, who is the only suspect named in the case worked up by the state police, and that her knowledge of the matter is at best secondhand.

“A lot of it’s just hearsay, from what I hear,” she said.

Katro was released from prison last month. She was doing time for drug and obstructing justice convictions when the state police showed up.

She figures her mail was monitored and some of her correspondence raised red flags. Katro specifically believes a Christmas card sent by Anthony “Bindy” Rock, a convicted cop killer reputed to have ties to organized crime, got the state police worked up enough to come down and see her in Dwight.

“What got them really interested was Bindy wrote his daughter was mad at him because she thought he had something to do with the … Peterson murder,” she said.

Rock has links to Drew Peterson. In fact, Rock was a central figure in an unsanctioned undercover investigation Peterson undertook while he was on loan from the Bolingbrook Police Department to the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad in 1985. That investigation led to Peterson’s indictment on charges of official misconduct and failure to report a bribe.

Peterson was fired following his indictment when the Bolingbrook Police and Fire Commission found him guilty of those charges, as well as disobedience and conducting a self-assigned investigation.

The criminal charges were eventually dropped and Peterson ended up getting his job back.

When asked about Katro and her questioning by the state police, Rock declined to comment.

Likewise, state police Sgt. Juan Valenzuela said he was precluded from commenting about ongoing investigations and witness interviews. He would not confirm or deny whether Katro was interviewed.

Katro said she was reluctant to sit down with the state police.

“I didn’t want nothing to do with them,” she said. “I just told them Bindy was like an uncle to me. He’s helped me out, got me work.”

And even though Katro hears things, she says she has learned not to ask too many questions.

“I just don’t want to know,” she said. “Especially when you’re dealing with those kind of people. When you know too much, sometimes those people disappear.”

Read the story at the Herald News

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136 thoughts on “Pal of Bindy Rock Questioned in Drew Peterson case

  1. Since gatekeep ran off with the new Post, I re copy here:

    justanotherhen Says:

    April 15, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    “Like she’s not at the bottom of a lake,” Katro said. “I heard they ran her through a funeral home and cremated her, her ashes.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Didn’t Drew mention something about Stacy’s “remains” rather than ashes ?

    Hard to know what is rumour mill stuff but makes you wonder who is “they” if Drew Peterson supposedly acted alone ?

  2. Pfffft. She’s got nothing for State Police but she says she heard stacy was cremated? I’ve heard that as well…also that she was strapped dead to the back of Drew’s motorcycle and driven to Wisconsin, among other things…

  3. facsmiley Says:

    April 15, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    Pfffft. She’s got nothing for State Police but she says she heard stacy was cremated? I’ve headd that as well…also that she was strapped to the back of Drew’s motorcycle and driven to Wisconsin, among other things…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL, yes, like weekend at Bernies !

  4. Oh yeah, more hearsay and quadruple hearsay – that was during the time Drew was running around Sharons yard with an urn he wanted to dispose of when Police was searching his house !

  5. She told them nothing. But it took their attention for two hours. Two hours of nothing? Something ain’t right here.

  6. The woman, 31-year-old Jamie Katro, did not tell them much during the two-hour interview.

    “No — uh, uh, nothing,” Katro said of what she told troopers when they questioned her in late February. “To me, that’s what they’re getting paid for. Let them do their job.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    State Troopers only asked her one question and it took them two hours to get it out (!!) and Jamie Katro’s answer was:

    “No — uh, uh, nothing,”

  7. “What got them really interested was Bindy wrote his daughter was mad at him because she thought he had something to do with the … Peterson murder,” she said.

    I wonder what Peterson murder she is referring to.

  8. “I didn’t want nothing to do with them,” she said. “I just told them Bindy was like an uncle to me. He’s helped me out, got me work.”

    This sort of sounds how Drew describes himself when he talks about what he’d done for various street rats — helping them out, getting them jobs.

  9. Funny thing, Drew will know exactly how much “hearsay” the story is this woman got interviewed over and how much “nothing” she could have possibly told State Troopers (!!)

  10. noway406 Says:

    April 15, 2009 at 9:13 pm
    “I didn’t want nothing to do with them,” she said. “I just told them Bindy was like an uncle to me. He’s helped me out, got me work.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bindy may have been the generous “uncle” type to her, helped her out, gave her work, but she still ended in the slammer doing time, so how much “help” did he give her ??

  11. I’m glad that the interviewed someone new. No matter what – sometimes these random interviews lead to a real witness or hard evidence.

    If they spoke with her for 2 hours, she certainly told them other things and names of people who she heard things from. They can then follow back to those people to see where they heard that from with hopes that someone says that they were with Drew when it happened or they spoke to the crematory worker who helped out. Then they can go back and look at phone records, do some forensic testing on items used at the identified facility to see if Stacy’s DNA is there, and find some hard evidence.

  12. Good morning everyone!

    At last a little snippet of news. It can’t be good for DP and JB because they don’t know what she really told them, probably don’t know what she might know, either. 😉

  13. The question is will JB issue a press release now to trash this story. Sometimes I wish I could be Joe Hosey to feel DP and JB’s frustration crashing away at but not hurting me( A little Nelson Muntz Ha Ha here)

  14. Good morning everyone. Happy GJ day!!!! You know after what we know of the skunk saying about Kathleen, this story of cremation doesn’t sound to far fetched. I am praying there will some answers soon. It is good to know that LE is still following up on leads in this case.

  15. littlemamajo Says:
    April 16, 2009 at 7:24 am

    It is good to know that LE is still following up on leads in this case.
    ———

    I agree, Little 🙂

  16. Good morning, everyone.

    There has been some news in the Lisa Stebic case. I’ll post the link, but here’s yet another “annoying” dodge from the Will County officials. Their “investigation is ongoing” line is getting real old, if not already old!!!!! Bah.

    Charles Pelkie, spokesman for Will County State’s Attorney Jim Glasgow, said he could not comment on specifics of the developments, which came about within the last few months.

    “While these developments haven’t cracked open the case, they have shed additional light on what happened to Lisa Stebic,” Pelkie said.

    He added that the investigation, headed by the Plainfield Police Department, is ongoing, and that the Stebic case has been the focus of a grand jury investigation.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1529357,4_1_JO16_STEBIC_S1.article

    Police: New developments in Stebic case
    April 16, 2009
    By JANET LUNDQUIST jlundquist@scn1.com

  17. “A lot of it’s just hearsay, from what I hear,” she said.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This woman is just too busy downplaying what she knows as LE wouldn’t give her the time of day, let alone be interviewing her for two hours over a bit of innocuous “hearsay”

  18. Why is it that whenever I hear of this Bindy Rock guy I always think of the video of Bindi Irwin (Steve Irwin Crocodile guy’s daughter) rap video??

  19. Rescue – I know that we often chat more about Stacy and Kitty than Lisa (because Drew gets in the media so much that we have more things to discuss). I do hope that her case is solved soon. My prayers are with her family and friends just as much as they are for Stacy and Kitty’s.

  20. I think because the same GJ that has been in session and investigating the Peterson matters is the same GJ that has been involved in Lisa Stebic’s, and that same GJ is about to be dismissed, it seems that maybe some news about Lisa Stebic’s case, too, might be forthcoming. I hope so. Of course, everyone here cares to see justice for her too as much as for Kathleen and Stacy.

  21. Yo Grandam

    I think I remember way way many moons ago this pursued on FoSP, and I think I also recall the discussion ended a bit abruptly along the lines of we can’t be discussing this guy, probably nothing to do with it…..

    IIRC

  22. Hmm…

    Will County Coroner Patrick O’Neil went to the Internet to find out more before responding to a reporter’s questions about green burials.

    “It’s really not something I’ve heard of,” said O’Neil, whose parents own O’Neil Funeral Home in Lockport.

    Source: http://www.naturalburial.coop/2007/11/04/green-wake-not-an-easy-undertaking/

    Under the current Will County coroner, Patrick O’Neil, a coroner’s jury in 2004 ruled the death of Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio, an accident.

    Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-071101peterson-photogallery,0,6654063.photogallery?index=chi-peterson5oneil20080818114910

  23. If you do a search about this, there have been a couple of references to this as far back as weeks after Stacy’s disappearance. These are merely blogger’s comments I found, not actual newspaper reports on the subject. However, it has been a rumor since the early days of Stacy’s disappearance. For example:

    ********
    From: http://hitsusa.com/blog/263/stacy-peterson/
    November 14th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Drew Peterson looked so confident on NBC today, …….. The Internal affairs needs to delve into his past & see who his Friends & aquaintances were way back, I mean really dig deep. He really looked so assured Stacy wasn,t being found. Maybe just Maybe he had help getting rid of her a Creamitation at the funeral Home. Being 29yrs a Cop would gain You all kinds of experiences.
    ********
    From: http://www.missingabducted.com/2007/11/stacey-peterson.html

    Saturday, March 29, 2008 at 10:17 PM

    Has anyone checked on the Coroner O’neil who was involved in the case of the third wife of Drew. I heard a report on the news several weeks ago that the Coroner owned a funeral home and that Drew Peterson was a friend of his. Remember in the Godfather, there was a funeral owner who owed the Godfather a favor and the body was cremated? I believe that is why Drew Peterson is so cockey since he knows no one will ever find Stacey. I hope someone looks into this possibility.

  24. This gets even more bizarre (a Greta blogger, 11/28/2007):

    I do not want to think what it can do to a dead body. I know people don’t want to hear these gory possibilities but if a body can not be found for so long using thousands of volunteers, the latest planes, cadaver dogs, heat sensing equipment, the navy, FBI and ISP resources, one has to think out of the box and consider all potential scenarios. Mr. Peterson knew the funeral homes in the area and could have easily thrown her corpse with another body that was being cremated overnight. Most policemen could pick a lock pretty easily. Many doors in the Western Suburbs can be opened by inserting a credit card or screwdriver and pushing the lock back unless a steel frame cover is put over the lock. I found out the hard way after my store was burglarized and the police informed me without a metal cover over the lock most doors can be opened with a screw driver without leaving any sign of a break in. I doubt funeral homes bother to secure their doors like a retail store as most people have no interest in a funeral home for burglary purposes!!!

  25. Question – Do funeral homes do the cremation there? I thought a person was cremated and then just the remains are sent to the funeral home itself.

  26. IMO, she’s still at the bottom of the canal. I’m not changing my mind because one incarcerated person heard a rumor. We’ve heard lots of rumors.

  27. I guess my mind isn’t set yet. I think anything is possible. The trip to the canal could have been to dump other things – including a barrel that he could have used to bring her somewhere to have her cremated. But I see your point as the canal is one of the best places to permanently “lose” things.

  28. In my mind, I guess I just assumed that if he did bury Stacy somewhere, she is near where Scott Rossetto lives. LE’s early thinking was that Peterson was going to try and frame him. Why would there be any need to frame Scott if, in fact, Stacy took off with a man, but not Scott? Since Scott wasn’t missing, along with Stacy, it makes me wonder if he was jumpy about her body possibly being found. It would seem that if Stacy’s body was found early after her disappearance, he could point to Scott as being her “lover” and being the one to harm her.

  29. This is what I cannot get out of my mind from the early days of the investigation:

    “A police source says they have “good information” Stacy was dumped in the Shorewood area near the home of Rossetto. Another source said investigators believe the killer may have attempted to frame Rossetto by depositing the body near his house.”

  30. If Peterson was successful in this cremation theory, there is/was no chance of her body being found. Why would he need to go through all of the hoops he did to have cell phone calls ping from near the Rossetto home if Stacy was never going to come back, ever? It doesn’t make any sense to “frame” someone for a homicide if the actual suspect knows there will never be a body tied-in with the crime?

    In March, Joe Hosey’s story about Morphey included this:

    Not only that, police sources allege Morphey assisted Peterson in a scheme to set cell phone towers pinging near the home of her friend Scott Rossetto, a male nurse living in Shorewood. The sources said they suspected Peterson was trying to frame Rossetto for doing away with Stacy.

  31. And even though Katro hears things, she says she has learned not to ask too many questions.

    “I just don’t want to know,” she said. “Especially when you’re dealing with those kind of people. When you know too much, sometimes those people disappear.”

    So…maybe she’s deliberately trying to mislead by mentioning the cremation rumor?

  32. That’s exactly right, Facs. This rumor has been around since the very beginning. Couldn’t she have just as well said she heard rumors that Peterson deliberately tried to set-up a friend of Stacy’s and her body was dumped near his home? The early police theory is much more credible and logical according to the cell phone pings and what Morphey has confirmed openly.

    Since she’s so well versed on the subject, I am sure she heard he was near the Canal in those early hours too. Why not throw that into the mix?

    The only theories about the cremation have come strictly from posts by bloggers.

  33. The only reason I can think is that Drew would think that the police would have charged and tried Rosetto on a circumstantial case (you know – the kind he complains they have against him)??

    IDK – So many theories – still no charges… 😦

  34. She said people who know too much tend to disappear. I doubt she’s going to speak the truth about what rumors she has heard or what facts she knows.

    Or she might be next to disappear.

  35. When Lenny and Paula came forward about the overhears, I thought one of them said (and maybe this is just Internet rumor) that Drew said something about “by the time they found Stacy’s remains, he would have been acquitted” … if she was cremated, there would not be remains to be found.

    Could someone set me straight on whether Lenny or Paula ever said that?

    🙂 Of course, since Drew “knew he was being taped” he may have said that to set them up.

  36. facsmiley Says:
    April 16, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Interesting link that mentions Jamie Katro:

    http://www.reportacriminal.com/reports/83

    I wonder how accurate that report is. It’s from November 2007, and notes that Jamie hasn’t held a job in the last 5 years (2002-2007). Makes you wonder exactly what Uncle Bindy was doing for her.

  37. She had been arrested before. I saw a 2004 story of her being arrested for posession and domestic battery. I poked around on the myspace pages of some of that crowd. Thugs and hoes. I think I found Drew a few new girlfriends!

  38. TAI – Charge Scott on a circumstantial case for what, though? Her disappearance? It’s not a crime to know someone that has disappeared, so unless they had evidence she was murdered, that was going nowhere. If Drew knows her body would possibly be found, then it makes sense that he set up pings and discovered text messages to put blame and/or suspicion on someone other than him. He sure went to a lot of lengths to have anyone who’d listen think that Stacy was a woman that had the interest of a few male acquaintances.

    Besides, it’s been reported he’s on wires saying the followng. If that’s the case, then there is always the possibility that her remains may still be found:

    Peterson mocked investigators as “idiots,” called his third wife “a bitch” whose body he should have had cremated and predicted he’d be tried and acquitted long before his fourth wife’s remains were found, Wawczak said.

  39. Isn’t the first thing Droopy says to put someone down is that they have no/had no job? Didn’t he just say that about the parties next door who were honouring his victims with ribbons?

  40. Noway – That was reported in the SunTimes and attributed as a quote from Lenny. I will say though that I refer to the ashes of someone that was cremated as remains. I also consider remains to be bones or a decomposed body.

    “We got him,” said Len Wawczak.

    Peterson mocked investigators as “idiots,” called his third wife “a bitch” whose body he should have had cremated and predicted he’d be tried and acquitted long before his fourth wife’s remains were found, Wawczak said.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1069491,boling072308.stng

  41. bucketoftea Says:
    April 16, 2009 at 11:53 am

    The report is anonymous, I suppose, could be anyone.
    (she didn’t say what kind of job…mule?)

    Silly me. I was thinking of the kind of job where you clock in, work semi-regular hours, get a paycheck (not cash under the table), and pay taxes!

    Different worlds, I guess. 😉

  42. Oops! Didn’t realize Rescue already found the same quote I did.

    Rescue – I am just saying that maybe Drew thought the State would jump the gun. I’m sure he’d be fine with someone else being charged with murder even if no body was found. My theory on this theory is that he could have thought that the special text message he had found and other evidence that showed Stacy was talking to Rosetto could mean he was the guy she allegedly left with but he harmed her instead of going away himself. Maybe he thought the final pings of his phone somewhere else and Stacy’s phone by Rosetto’s home area would become circumstantial evidence against Rosetto.

    Total stretch… I know… Just theories and kicking around ideas… Nothing solid… No charges filed…

  43. Thanks, TAI for that quote above.

    I agree that cremated ashes are remains.

    But as far as affecting whether Drew were convicted, I think he would have been able to dispose of ashes so they would never be found as opposed to disposing of a body. His comment, if the attributed quote is accurate, indicates that Stacy’s remains could be found. And that there would be proof it was her, but he’d already have been acquitted.

    I’m making myself dizzy. I need to stop.

  44. Maybe, when Joe Hosey reads here, he can put this whole thing in perspective. Like, what are we to take away from reading this article?

    Now, with the cryptic statements made by the State’s Attorney’s Office regarding the Lisa Stebic case, (coming months after Glasgow’s equally cryptic message about one of the Peterson cases coming to a conclusion) it is enough to make one want to scream! Will County – what a place.

  45. I’m dizzy too. I see your point on that one. If he did have her cremated, he’d likely assume no one would ever find them as ashes are easier to hide.

    Here’s another wild theory to spin our heads. Theoretically one could sprinkle ashes in a pond by an airport as a little reminder of freedom while flying. Cadaver dogs may hit on the area but the ashes may not be distinguishable in the grass or in dirt so the searchers would move on.

    I wish there was an way to turn the pages to see the resolution in this case and I wish that it had some kind of happy ending. I’d settle for her family to at least have closure of some sort.

  46. BTW, I think I saw a video clip the other day where Paula Stark was discussing wearing the wire for seven months, and Drew pressing her to model Stacy’s clothes and saying he wanted to give them to her, and I think she mentioned also the comment about tossing Kathleen’s ashes out the window.

    It wasn’t youtube, though. Some news site – which is why I couldn’t grab it.

  47. At about 8:15, mention of being acquitted before Stacy’s remains were found (if she ran off with another man why would her remains be found).

    At about 8:52, the comment about wishing he’d had Kathleen cremated.

  48. Look for her at pipl com and go down to Public Records.
    Sorry, TAI, I do not know why my posts with the links do not get through…

  49. R82710 – KATRO, JAMIE
    Parent Institution: Dwight Correctional Center
    Inmate Status: PAROLE
    Location: PAROLE DISTRICT 1
    Discharge Reason:

    VITALS
    Date of Birth: 04-14-1978
    Weight: 160 lbs.
    Hair: Blonde or Strawberry
    Sex: Female
    Height: 5 ft. 06 in.
    Race: White
    Eyes: Blue

    MARKS, SCARS, & TATTOOS
    TATTOO, ARM, LEFT – “ONLY GOT CAN JUDGE ME”
    TATTOO, ARM, LEFT – BAND OF LEAVES,CHEST HEART”JAMIE
    TATTOO, CHEST – “NJLK”/ROSE/STARS,
    TATTOO, THIGH, RIGHT – MARVIN THE MARTIAN,SEE FILE TATT
    PIERCED EARS – 2X EA,SC L ARM

    ADMISSION / RELEASE / DISCHARGE INFO
    Custody Date: 03/14/2008
    Projected Parole Date:
    Paroled Date: 03-12-2009
    Tentative Discharge Date:
    Discharge From Parole: 03/12/2011

    SENTENCING INFORMATION
    MITTIMUS: 05CF1727
    CLASS: 1
    COUNT: 2
    OFFENSE: MANU/DEL 01-15 GR COCAINE/ANLG
    CUSTODY DATE: 07/12/2007
    SENTENCE: 4 YEARS 0 MONTHS 0 DAYS
    COUNTY: WILL
    SENTENCE DISCHARGED?: NO

    MITTIMUS: 05CF1727
    CLASS: 2
    COUNT: 1
    OFFENSE: OTHER AMT NARCOTIC SCHED I&II
    CUSTODY DATE: 07/12/2007
    SENTENCE: 4 YEARS 0 MONTHS 0 DAYS
    COUNTY: WILL
    SENTENCE DISCHARGED?: NO

    MITTIMUS: 07CF2273
    CLASS: 4
    COUNT: 1
    OFFENSE: OBSTRUCT JUST/DESTROY EVIDENCE
    CUSTODY DATE: 11/12/2007
    SENTENCE: 3 YEARS 0 MONTHS 0 DAYS
    COUNTY: WILL
    SENTENCE DISCHARGED?: NO

    Yesterday was her birthday 🙂 414

  50. I’m not sure what sentence discharged means? Unless it just means the parole and if one violates it they return to serve it out?

  51. Cyrhla, all those posts got caught in the spam filter. I manually pushed one through. I think if we approve a few of them, the system will realize you are”OK” to post links.

  52. some other info on Jamie:

    01/07/1998
    Suspended driver’s license: Jamie L. Katro, 19, of Lockport was issued a citation for driving with a suspended driver’s license on Sunday, Jan. 4 at 8:21 p.m. during a traffic stop in the area of McCameron and Highland avenues, Will County police said.

    03/08/2001
    Jamie L. Katro, 22, of the 300 block of Sunset Trail in New Lenox, was charged with DUI, driving with a suspended license.

    05/03/2003
    Arrest warrant (wanted)

    04/07/2004
    Jamie Katro, 25, of 1220 Highland Ave. was arrested by Joliet police and booked into the county jail Tuesday on charges of possession of a controlled substance and domestic battery.

    08/20/2005
    Jamie L. Katro, 27, of 407 Miami in Joliet, was arrested by Joliet police and booked into the county jail Friday on charges of manufacturing…

  53. Bucket – I believe “discharge” means they have met all the terms of their punishment (including prison time and parole time).

    Some prisoners get put on parole after they get out of prison and some get parole instead of prison. It seems a lot like getting a “supervision” conviction for a driving offense. If you violate parole – you get put in prison.

    (That is what happened to my nephew. He is in prison now and will still have parole for about a year after he is physically released from prison.)

  54. Well – if she did provide any information – Drew and his attorney would have a field day with all of those arrest statistics. She looks like she has lived a pretty hard life. I’m 14 years older than she is and look 14 years younger.

    It looks like she has been out of prison since mid March from the information. So the ISP must have gone down there a while back but Joe was able to track her down and talk to her now that she is out of the slammer or “da joint”. I guess that IDOC is reading the letters sent to prisoners. I cannot imagine them knowing the content of a letter that was sent via regular mail.

    What else was really in that letter to make the ISP go there?? And when the heck did they go?? She was in there for just over a year so it could have been a long time ago.

  55. Cyrhla – Most offenders get out much earlier than their sentence states.

    For example (God I hate that I have a real example like this), my nephew was sentenced to 1 year and 0 days in prison. They automatically cut that time in half – so the max he’d spend in jail initially was likely 6 months. Then they give you off a day for each day you are on good behavior – which can shave his time down to only 3 months. He still has to do probation for whatever length of time they set – my nephew has 1 year and it seems this chick has 2 years.

    They are not released that quickly if they get in trouble in jail or end up breaking probation after getting out.

    Does that help?

  56. The information my nephew gave me seems to match Jamie’s information provided on the IDOC site. She was sentenced to 4 years. So she’d start out with 2 years in prison which would be cut in half to 1 year if she behaved herself while in prison. It looks like she was pretty much in exactly a year based on her custody date (the approx. start date) and the parole date (the end date).

  57. Whatever the reason, ISP interviewed this woman for two hours and that is a long time to talk about “nothing”

  58. I’d rather know why Bindy’s daughter thinks her Dad had something to do with “the Peterson murder”

    Did anyone get murdered ?

    Kathleen “fell over in her bathtub” and Stacy “ran away”

  59. Bucket, another way of putting it is, when you are on parole you are kind of still serving your sentence, but on the outside. That’s how it works here anyway.

    ie: If I go to prison with a sentence of 10 years with a non-parole period of 8 years, it means if I am good I might be allowed out after 8 years (but not before, hence the non-parole period), but for the next 2 years I have to be good because I am on parole. If I violate parole, I get thrown back in the slammer to finish the 10 year sentence on the inside.

    BTW, having worked for the police, I really don’t think that questioning somebody for 2 hours is that long. When you are talking to an uncooperative prisoner, a lot of trash talk goes back and forth, and for all we know she could have spent the first hour refusing to even open her mouth. JMO.

  60. Hehe, I had a giggle at that as well. Do you think it was a spelling error on the part of the person who typed up the booking sheet?

  61. BTW, having worked for the police, I really don’t think that questioning somebody for 2 hours is that long. When you are talking to an uncooperative prisoner, a lot of trash talk goes back and forth, and for all we know she could have spent the first hour refusing to even open her mouth. JMO.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    According to her she refused to open her mouth for two hours (never told them anything, it’s all hearsay she heard anyway etc) but tells the newspaper instead – LOL !

  62. JAH, somebody is telling porky pies, that’s for sure. I reckon she is fronting, pretending she said jack so that uncle bindy doesn’t think she crossed him.

    Talk about a saga! There are so many twists and turns in this case!

  63. aussienat Says:

    April 16, 2009 at 7:28 pm
    JAH, somebody is telling porky pies, that’s for sure. I reckon she is fronting, pretending she said jack so that uncle bindy doesn’t think she crossed him.

    Talk about a saga! There are so many twists and turns in this case!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL, Yes she went into overdrive stating she doesn’t know anything/didn’t say anything and “most” of what she heard is hearsay.

    So what about the small part that isn’t hearsay then ?

    Maybe that’s why State Troopers were there (!)

  64. Got to put my 2 cents in because I read here everyday…for the facs..lol, nothing but the facs. I remember blogging at the first website for Stacy…and saying she was cremated…and someone being really upset with my post.
    Justice for Kathleen and Stacy…and those children. Back to lurking.

  65. msbloggess, it’s certainly a valid theory. In relation to him saying “I will be tried and acquitted before her remains are found” does not necessarily, IMO, mean he thinks they will ever be found. It could be rhetorical, like “I’ll eat my foot before so and so happens”. Doesn’t necessarily mean I’ll eat my foot.

    I also wonder about cemetaries. I have always thought the perfect place to hide a body that you don’t want to ever be found would be in a freshly dug grave, before the casket goes in.

    Oh how I wish Stacy can be found, and soon!

  66. Does it really count as lurking now we know you’re there? LOL 😉

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I need all the cents I can get lol

  67. Aussienat…I think it’s time for something to start happening. Joe Hosey wouldn’t have wrote that article for no reason IMO. He knows things we don’t and that’s ok by me as long as justice is served in the end.

  68. bucketoftea
    I am sure I am not alone. This is the best place to be updated and know that no-one has forgotten…and won’t. Even if we lurk. 🙂

  69. msbloggess Says:

    April 16, 2009 at 8:37 pm
    Aussienat…I think it’s time for something to start happening. Joe Hosey wouldn’t have wrote that article for no reason IMO. He knows things we don’t and that’s ok by me as long as justice is served in the end.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes, where there is smoke there is fire and this woman is just too overly busy denying she knows anything/said anything.

    That was the first thing I noticed about this article; all this denial and more denial on her part.

    If she genuinely didn’t know anything she would have been wondering what ISP wanted with her in the first place as why would ISP want to chase up common hearsay with her in particular ?

  70. Also didn’t the States Attorney say (in the beginning of the year) new information had been received and didn’t Joe Hosey say the same around the same time ??

  71. I wonder if Jamies statements/denials are making Drew sweat, considering she said she heard “THEY” ran her through a Funeral Home (!!)

  72. I’m pretty torn between thinking that she’s completely out of the loop and has nothing to do with it…or she knows something and is just keeping quiet.

  73. noway406 Says:

    April 16, 2009 at 12:35 pm
    At about 8:15, mention of being acquitted before Stacy’s remains were found (if she ran off with another man why would her remains be found).

    At about 8:52, the comment about wishing he’d had Kathleen cremated.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does one use the word “remains” when it concerns ashes as it doesn’t really make sense to “find” someones ashes in relation to finding someones remains.

    If Drew did mean ashes, it makes no sense as ashes contain no DNA unless there are bone fragments or teeth present.

    Sorry to be so macabre, but that’s how it is !

  74. Also if Drew had put Stacy “through a funeral parlor”, he would not have wanted to receive her ashes (why would he), so anyone “finding” Stacys ashes wouldn’t even be relevant and he would not have made mention of “finding Stacys remains” that way.

    If Drew therefore did mention anything about “finding Stacy’s remains” in future, it is highly unlikely he had her cremated.

  75. I can’t get over the picture in my head of gangsters sitting down and writing out their Christmas cards to each other.

  76. Good morning. Just stopping by to see what the good word is for today. Hope you all have a great day.

    Do we know if the skunk can discern between the two words…cremains or remains???? I have never thought him to be the brightest crayon in the box! JMO I really have no opinion as to where he could have put Stacy. There are SO many possibilities and that is the part that can drive you wild trying to figure it out. 😦

  77. I agree with you LMJ, he may be criminally street-wise, but he is not intelligent. I wish we could get back into the FSP site, because I could swear there were discussions there about how he did try to manipulate Kitty being cremated until her family stepped in. I’m not from the area, but I thought he had connections with the Teczak (not sure about the spelling) family who also were involved in the funeral home business. You’re right, LMJ, the possibilities of what he did with Stacy are just overwhelming given the time he had to recover and carry out his plans during that three-day head-clearing trip.

  78. I wonder…If some “insanely rich person” put up oh say a 5 Million $ reward just for SP’s body, how quickly she would be found ??

    My bet is the next day !!

    Then maybe this case can move forward. MAYBE !

  79. Sugarbabes – I had never heard of the word cremains. I’ve always called ashes “remains” or “ashes”. Oh well – semantics are a beast!

  80. Sugarbabes – I think the comments about him trying to have her cremated are things that Lenny and/or Paula have stated Drew said on the overhears. It was something to the effect that he tried to have her cremated but since he was already partially divorced from her he didn’t get to make the decision and that role was passed on to her family.

    He never said that in public on record that I’m aware of.

  81. TIA, my husband requested to be cremated, and all of the documents referring to his cremation do use the word “cremains”. As the option of cremation has grown over the years, I hear more and more people here refer to it that way.

    No, I seem to recall that one of Kitty’s sisters made it known that he tried to inject himself at the time of her death and tried to convince them to go the cremation route. I’m very aware of his horrible remarks made to Lenny and Paula, but I’m recalling some things I read at FSP. It sure would be interesting to hear from Kitty’s sister, Anna, on this issue. I used to have Sue’s email addy, but can no longer find it. Darn!!!

  82. Hi Sugar, I also remember reading about his wanting to cremate Kathleen. And I do believe it was her sister that made the comment.

  83. I think Drew’s comment about “by the time her remains are found” was more like “when pigs fly” or “when hell freezes over” because he knows her remains will never be found. I also remember the discussion on FSP early on about his ties to a funeral home & rumor/speculation that he had her cremated.

    But if he did cremate Stacy, why the missing scuba weights? I wonder if the nightstand was in the blue barrel Tom helped move & did it get cremated too? Anyone know when the nightstand disappeared?

  84. Tink,
    I thought the nightstand disappeared between when police first visited the house and when they returned with the search warrant.

    I thought Drew let them look through some of the house but not all of it (without search warrant) and let them search his vehicle but not Stacy’s.

  85. And although according to Joel, “6. There are no missing weights, suba or otherwise, missing from Drew’s home.” I think this just means that Drew knows where they are, so they are not missing

  86. I’ve also read that Sharon or Cass (maybe both) were asked to sketch layout of bedroom, and it was after that the nightstand was noted as missing. Could not find anything on acandyrose, but found search warrant dates.

    http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_timeline.htm

    On right-hand side, about 3/4 of the way down.

    10/31/2007 Search Warrant Page 1, 2, 3
    “Residence, Vehicles and Computers”

    11/01/2007 Search Warrant Page 1, 2, 3
    “Recreational Trailer, Pool Storage Area”

    11/06/2007 Search Warrant Page 1, 2, 3
    “Missing Apple Computer Laptop”

    12/04/2007 Search Warrant Page 1, 2, 3
    “Search & Seizure Warrant Two Vehicles”

  87. I heard of the cremation route also. He would of probably had to know someone on the inside to pull that off. Of course the woman did base a lot of the knowledge was based on hearsay and speculation.

    Since it seems that most people on this thread are people I know, I am known as xtw on other blogsites. Just used this name back when things were a little out of control on the wordpress blog and just used this handle to register before. Hi everyone!

    Still awaiting call back from ISP about my blue barrel sighting I had although it seems like a longshot.

  88. If you look at this photo of the little ones sleeping in mom and dad’s bed (I know..*gulp*), you can clearly see a nightstand just to the right with a lamp on it:

    Compare that to a photo taken during the “Mr. Mom” house tour:

  89. Good Day All,

    I wonder…..if LE would happen to find an urn or something with ashes in it, could it be tested for DNA? I just want justice for this family and Kitty’s family, the waiting is the hardest part!!!!!!!

  90. I think not, no DNA from ashes or thoroughly burnt bone. Best hope undamaged teeth, very unlikely. In some cases here (one at a hospital I used to work at) (yikes!) a porter murdered his wife and stuck her in the hospital incinerator, but I think a stray gallstone (she was a known sufferer) and unconsumed matter that was likely her false teeth. Not ironclad ID, but indicative. He confessed in any case.

  91. Thanks Bucket!! 🙂

    That’s kinda what I was thinking but I was hoping it was possible I guess. In the Steven Avery case, (Teresa Halbech murder) he killed her and burnt her body, along with some tires, in his outdoor pit on the ground. Luckily they found a button off of the jeans she was wearing….

  92. I was thinking, same thing about the urn. Do you think it’s possible he put her ashes in with her sisters? I always heard, there could be bone fragments and small pieces of teeth.
    He said, shes where she wants to be, could it be with her sister?

  93. If he had her cremated, he would not want to have taken posession of her ashes.

    The crematorium/funeral home (or “they” as in Jamies account) would have disposed of them.

    BTW When a body gets cremated, it is in little pieces and then gets put through a grinder, which makes it into “ashes”.

    If that was Drews chosen method he would have made sure that process was followed to the end.

    I also think his comments about Stacy would have been different as he would not have mentioned anything about the possibility of “finding her remains” some time in the future.

    Of course I could be completely wrong – LOL !

  94. cyrhla Says:

    April 17, 2009 at 3:53 pm
    I wonder which of this seach warrants covered his storage place in Romeoville?

    From the descriptions, I don’t think any of them did. I opened each warrant and there isn’t one that references a storage unit in Romeoville or anywhere else.

    I don’t know whether more warrants were issued, but this was it on acandyrose.com.

  95. Funny too how Drew and Joel are so quiet about this newspaper article.

    I thought they be jumping all over Jamie by now (!!)

  96. facsmiley Says:

    April 17, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    If you look at this photo of the little ones sleeping in mom and dad’s bed (I know..*gulp*), you can clearly see a nightstand just to the right with a lamp on it:

    Compare that to a photo taken during the “Mr. Mom” house tour:

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The “Mr Mom” house tour photo sure is the sanitized version of Drews life with no night stand and no lamp anywhere to be seen (!!)

  97. bucketoftea Says:

    April 17, 2009 at 4:36 am
    I can’t get over the picture in my head of gangsters sitting down and writing out their Christmas cards to each other.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL, LOL !!

    What would they write ?

    Merry Christmas and God Bless You from your hitman

    or

    Merry Christmas and Peace On Earth from the Terminator

  98. I posted the before/after nightstand pics, because I believe the nightstand either was damaged at the time Stacy died, or received some of her DNA and so Drew disposed of it.

    Why did he get rid of the nightstand?

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard an interviewer ask that question.

  99. Thanx for posting those photos, Facs. Good question!

    1. It ran off.

    2. It was just a punk piece of street occasional furniture. Always lacquered. No legitimate job since 2004.

  100. How is “roadkill” disposed of in Will County ? Is there an an animal crematorium locally ?

    Also, has Romeoville Beach ever been searched ? This is a former quarry now private lake with vehicle access. It’s south of 135th and east of the I & M Canal.

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