Drew Peterson on trial: Who will be called to testify?

courtroom-dpJoel Brodsky is back in town and one can only assume that Monday he will be getting around to dealing with his client, Drew Peterson, who currently sits in isolation in the medical unit of the Will County Adult Detention Facility.

Peterson is scheduled for an arraignment hearing on May 18, for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

It’s anyone’s guess when the case will actually go to trial, but when it does who do you think will be called up as witnesses? The following is a list I put together but maybe you can think of more…or reasons why some of these people might not be called.

  1. Michael Baden, M. M.D.
    Forensic Pathologist
    He analyzed Kathleen Savio’s remains November 16, 2007 at the request of her relatives. He concluded she died after a struggle, and her body was placed in the bathtub where she was found.
  2. Bill Belcher Jr.
    A witness for Kathleen’s first autopsy, March 1, 2004
  3. Dr. Larry W. Blum
    Forensic pathologist who performed autopsy of Kathleen on November 13, 2007. Concluded in his report that the actual cause of Kathleen Savio’s death was drowning and that the legal manner of death was homicide. “Dr. Blum’s forensic report renders his expert opinion that this is a homicide,”
  4. Bob Brenczewski
    Will County Chief Deputy Coroner
  5. Mike Calcagno
    BBPD Chief in 2004 said he felt for Kathleen and gave her his personal cell number
  6. Steven Carcerano
    A friend and former neighbor of Drew and Kathleen. Discovered Kathleen’s body.
  7. James B. Carrol
    Drew Peterson’s Uncle and executor of the estate of Kathleen Savio
  8. Victoria L. Connolly
    Drew Peterson’s 2nd Wife
    Said that during their marriage an increasingly controlling Peterson told her he could kill her and make it look like an accident.
  9. Charlie Dastych
    DuPage County’s Chief Deputy Coroner
    Reviewed Kathleen’s autopsy report at CBS 2’s request. “The injuries that are noted in the autopsy report definitely indicate there is evidence of suspicion that could be looked at at a different level,” Dastych said. “Evidence of a possible struggle.”
  10. Bob Deel
    ISP crime scene technician.
    Deputy Coroner Mike VanOver: “Bob Deel was asked by me if he thought there was anything hinky here, and stuff like that, and if we should be doing something different, and I was told no.”
  11. Anna Marie Doman
    Kathleen Savio’s Sister
  12. Susan M. Doman
    Kathleen Savio’s Sister
  13. Charles H.Doman
    Kathleen Savio’s Nephew
    Worked in Suds Pub, a Montgomery bar Peterson had owned, as a maintenance man and disc jockey.
  14. Melissa Doman
    Kathleen Savio’s Niece
    Saw evidence of domestic violence done to Kathleen (black eye).
  15. Elizabeth Fragale
    Will County Assistant States Attorney. Kathleen sent her a letter in November 2002 documenting domestic abuse from Drew
  16. Herbert B. Hardy
    Special Agent who provided testimony at coroner’s inquest 2004 to determining cause of death of Kathleen Savio.
    The testimony painted the 40-year-old’s demise as anything but fishy.” “And our investigation shows that basically, after the coroner’s report and toxicology that she died from drowning,” Hardy says” – “We believe that the laceration from her — that she sustained to the back of her head was caused by a fall in the tub,” Hardy said.
  17. Walter Jacobsen
    FOX News anchor. Kathleen sent him a letter in November 2002 documenting domestic abuse from Drew.
  18. Steve Maniaci
    Kathleen’s boyfriend at the time of her death.
  19. Gary L. Marcolina
    Witnessed March 2, 1997 Will, of Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson.
  20. Richard Mims
    Drew Peterson’s Friend
    Says he helped drew do surveillance on Kathleen.
  21. Dr. Bryan Mitchell
    The forensic pathologist who conducted the initial autopsy
  22. Alex Morelli
    Bolingbrook Police Officer and former partner of Drew Peterson and witnessed March 2, 1997 Will, of Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson
  23. Thomas Morphey
    Step-brother of Drew Peterson
    Worked for Drew Peterson and Kathleen Savio, managing a bar they once owned.
  24. Patrick O’Neil
    Will County Coroner
    In November 2007 he reviewed Savio’s autopsy and said there were aspects of her death that concerned him
  25. Eric Peterson
    Son of Drew Peterson, rumored to be estranged from his father.
  26. Kristopher Peterson
    Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson’s son.
  27. Stephen Peterson
    Son of Drew Peterson. Lived at his home at the time of Kathleen’s death
  28. Thomas Peterson
    Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson’s son.
  29. Mary Pontarelli
    A friend and former neighbor of Kathleen. In the house when Kathleen’s body was found.
  30. Nick Pontarelli
    The son of Mary Pontarelli. Entered the house at the time Kathleen’s body was found.
  31. Thomas Pontarelli
    The husband of Mary Pontarelli and the father of Nick Pontarelli. Entered the house at the time Kathleen’s body was found.
  32. Dennis Pratl
    Orland Park Police Officer and inquest juror. Possibly knew Drew and could have swayed jury.
  33. Jennifer Schoon
    Girlfriend of Stephen Peterson living at Drew’s home at the time of Kathleen’s death
  34. Pastor Neil Schori
    Currently at Napervile Christian Church. Heard Stacy Peterson’s confession in August 2007 that Drew Peterson murdered his 3rd wife, Kathleen Savio.
    “I believed, unfortunately, that it was exactly what I thought, and I believed that it was related to the death of his wife. But I clarified, and I said, He did what? And she said, He killed Kathleen.”
  35. Dr. Daniel Spitz
    Forensic pathologist
    “When they talk about an injury to the scalp, and blood matted in the hair, I think it would raise questions of what caused this trauma if you’re drowned in a bathtub,” said DuPage County Coroner Peter Siekmann. “But basically healthy people that have no toxic substances in their system, essentially they don’t drown.” Siekmann has said he believes the jurors who ruled on Savio’s death made a mistake, and that her cause of death should have been listed as undetermined.”
  36. Henry M. Savio
    Kathleen Savio’s brother
  37. Henry Savio
    Kathleen Savio’s Father
    “Henry Savio told Fox News he always thought his daughter’s death was a homicide. “I never believed anything else that happened to her,” Henry Savio said. “It makes me a lot more happier that I found out something that I should have found out years back.”
  38. Kathleen Savio
    Will she be allowed to “testify from the grave”?
  39. Marcia Savio
    Kathleen’s stepmother
  40. Nick Savio
    Kathleen Savio’s Brother
  41. Mike VanOver
    Deputy Coroner, Will County
    Only a streak of blood was found in the tub, according to VanOver’s report, police documents and testimony by the state police special agent at the coroner’s inquest.
  42. Dr. Cyril Wecht
    Forensic pathologist
    Former Allegheny County PA Medical Examiner
    The defense has discussed the case with Cyril Wecht. His conclusion was that the original autopsy was accurate.
  43. The Locksmith who gained access to Kathleen’s house.

What do you think?

Also, Karen Conti who will be conducting a mock trial for this case and says it is tentatively schduled for May 28. It will be held at Kent Law School in Chicago.

Thanks to acandyrose where I got a lot of these names and associations.

Finally, please to enjoy this fabulous video of Joel Brodsky that JustanotherHen reminded us about. In light of recent developments, it really does deserve another viewing.

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288 thoughts on “Drew Peterson on trial: Who will be called to testify?

  1. aussienat Says:

    May 10, 2009 at 11:23 pm
    One thing that is really getting on my wick and annoying the hell out of me is the experts who say he will probably be granted a change of venue.

    That is so unfair! The only reason his jury pool could be tainted is because HE is the one that has turned himself into the star clown of his own circus.

    If I were the judge deciding, I would tell him it’s his own bad luck most jury members will be familiar with the case and to suck it up!

  2. I would like them to call Eric Peterson. It has been reported that the reason he has cut Drew out of his life is that he believes Drew had something to do with Kathleen’s death.

    It would be VERY interesting to hear exactly why he thinks that.

  3. http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1387&z=50

    Joel Brodsky Visits Drew Peterson in Jail
    Joel Brodsky says his clients spirits are good.

    prnewschannel.com – May 10, 2009

    (PRNewsChannel) / Chicago, Ill. / Drew Peterson’s lead criminal defense attorney Joel A. Brodsky returned to Chicago Sunday and visited his client in jail, according to the public relations firm The Publicity Agency that represents both Brodsky and Peterson.

    “Drew understands the seriousness of the situation but he is in good spirits and has not lost his sense of humor,” says Brodsky.

    Brodsky was on his way to New York for vacation when he received reports of Peterson’s arrest.

    Peterson is charged with murder in the 2004 death of Kathleen Savio. He’s also a suspect in the 2007 disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy. He’s denied wrongdoing.

  4. I’ve been looking for information on the Pastor with a Greek name, who had an Order of Protection taken out against Drew, shortly before Kathleen was found dead.

    Did Drew threaten this church and if so WHY ??

    Wondering if this Pastor will be called as a witness if the above is relevant to Kathleens death or anything she may have revealed to this Pastor as Stacy did to hers (?)

  5. That would be very interesting. I only just learned, through this forum, that there was an OAP against drew taken out by a pastor.

    DP is so predictable. He follows the same patterns over and over again.

    I personally don’t believe he is going to walk.

    I especially think boobsky’s assertion that “the state’s case must be weak if they spent 18 months putting it together” is naive.

    They spent 18 months putting it together so it would be STRONG.

    I’m still deciding on whether I think JB is just

    a) incompetent

    b) only in it for the publicity he can get and will cut drew loose, or:

    c) both A and B!

  6. This is in regards to the other Pastor that was asked about in which there was an Order of Protection filed against Drew Peterson.

    Here is the information from that court case. You will see that this is NOT the same Drew Peterson (based on the birthdate).

    Case # 2004OP1077
    File Date: 10/19/2004

    Vasilios Smith (on behalf of Markella Smith [17]) vs. Drew Peterson

    10/19/2004 0001 5350 New Case Complaint/Petition
    10/19/2004 0001 700210 Civil Count
    10/19/2004 0000 2430 Order of Protection Emergency 11/05/04 2002 9:00AM
    10/19/2004 0000 110 Status Date 02/15/05 2002 9:00 AM
    10/19/2004 0000 5195 Appearance Filed
    10/19/2004 0000 2140 Location Assignment
    10/19/2004 0000 10330 Prosecuting Attorney
    10/19/2004 0000 10010 Address
    10/19/2004 0000 10100 First Named Defendant
    10/19/2004 0000 10200 First Named Plantiff
    10/25/2004 0000 9550 Document Served Order of Protection
    10/26/2004 0000 10030 Communication
    10/26/2004 0000 10010 Address
    10/26/2004 0000 10330 Pro Se Attorney
    10/26/2004 0000 5190 Appearance Filed
    11/05/2004 0001 1990 Count Legally Closed
    11/05/2004 0000 2840 Strike Court Date
    11/05/2004 0000 2430 Order of Protection – Plenary 2 years
    11/09/2004 0000 9550 Document Served – Order of Protection
    12/17/2006 0000 4530 Reassignment

    Vasilios Smith on behalf of Markella Smith
    2611 Cheshire – Aurora, IL 60504

    Vs.

    Drew Peterson DOB – 03/22/1987 M – W – 5’8” – 165 – Lgt Bwn – Hazel
    2915 Pine Tree Ct – Aurora, IL 60504

    No Contact of any kind with protected Party Except at school functions or during school hours that is not in violation of conditions of box #1.

  7. May 11, 2009

    BY MAUREEN O’DONNELL Staff Reporter modonnell@suntimes.com

    Prosecutor James Glasgow “really doesn’t have a case” against accused wife-killer Drew Peterson, his defense attorney says.

    Joel Brodsky — who was en route to New York when Peterson was arrested last week — stepped off a plane at O’Hare Airport on Sunday and lambasted Glasgow as an overzealous prosecutor who has hitched a weak case to circumstantial evidence.
    RELATED STORIES
    Drew’s lawyer wants $20 million bond reduced

    The ex-Bolingbrook police officer maintains his “total, complete innocence in Kathy Savio’s death,” Brodsky said.

    He vowed a fight to slash Peterson’s $20 million bond. With his roots in the community, it should have been less than $1 million, Brodsky said.

    The case is “not just hearsay, but double hearsay,” Brodsky said.

    He was referring to statements purportedly made by Savio, Peterson’s third wife, about his threats, and comments allegedly made by Stacy, his missing fourth wife, to a pastor.

    Peterson has been cracking wise since his arrest about jailhouse food and “bling” (handcuffs.)

    It’s a defense mechanism, Brodsky said.

    “Drew does not think this situation he’s in is funny,” he said. “His comments certainly don’t help. … I’ve discussed that with Drew.”

    Given the publicity, Brodsky said he’s considering whether Peterson would have a better chance at a fair trial with jurors from outside the area.

    The defense will focus on the constitutionality of a new state law that makes it easier to use hearsay, and differing medical opinions on Savio’s autopsy, Brodsky said.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1567604,CST-NWS-drew11.article

    * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Yeah. Challenge the new law, challenge the autopsy findings, but you’ll lose. 🙂

  8. LOL at the argument that Drew won’t be a flight risk because of his “roots in the community” TENTACLES, more like, and isn’t he always talking about leaving?

    What roots, anyway? Friends? Close family ties? Job? His community volunteer work? His church? Looks to me like he has only his lawyer, publicist and maybe some erstwhile streetrats left.

    Some judges are more tolerant than others of gamesmanship. This is where applying for permission to leave the state to take the kids on holiday and then going to Florida with the grown-ups instead might not help him any.

  9. myabelle516 Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 2:12 am
    This is in regards to the other Pastor that was asked about in which there was an Order of Protection filed against Drew Peterson.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thank you myabelle516 for your research and my apologies to the “other” Drew Peterson (!)

    Re Joel Brodsky’s constant mention of Drew not being a “flight risk” really makes you wonder !

    The States Attorney never mentioned once the Bond being determined @ $ 20.000.000.00 because Drew being a flight risk.

    The bond was set at that amount because of the severity of the charges !!

  10. Speaking of flight risk:

    besides Disneyworld (!!), most of Drews other contacts appear to be in Florida.

    Then there’s constant talk of him moving to Kentucky, Arizona, Nevada etc, so Drews so called “roots in the Community” is pretty shallow talk and totally meaningless in the scheme of things, especially if he wanted to escape from charges or financial obligations !!

  11. Not just flight risk, but that little public safety issue with the suicide-by-cop etc. (they may well have that on overhears!)That’s a pretty good reason to deny bail altogether.

  12. Buffoonsky-speak on James Glasgow:
    “..really doesn’t have a case..” (blah-blah-blah)

    How would he know this, since discovery has not started and JG has not presented his case.
    Expect to see JB along with his mantra du jour
    trying this case in the media and court of public opinion. After all, he’s gotta say something in order to justify all those news conferences and whirlwind appearances on talk shows. I do believe that the tables have turned on him & his psycho-cop client.

  13. Do you think that anyone who wants to give Drew some money, can just buy DA’s book?

    I think it’s so funny the knot they’ve tied for themselves with D Armstrong. They’re clearly uncomfortable, but still won’t criticise him.

  14. I am hoping that ” the thing ” is indicted in connection with Stacy’s disappearence this week. He needs to remain locked up, as he presents a danger to the community. He is a liar, murderer and thief who uses violence and intimidation to control others. I remember Sharon B. mentioning how ” the thing ” used his remote to open and close HER garage door right in front of her. Since he thinks he’s above the law and refers to the police as ” whores ” he indeed poses a threat to others in a very large way.

  15. I think it’s so funny the knot they’ve tied for themselves with D Armstrong. They’re clearly uncomfortable, but still won’t criticise him.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I think Derek Armstrong has them over a barrel (Drew and Joel that is)

    In their greed and haste to get a book out trashing the victims, Drew must have made some pretty incriminating tapes badmouthing Kathleen, Stacy and their families and that is not a clever move if things tend to sour with their “publisher” (!!)

  16. Steven Peterson and his girlfriend (Jennifer Schoon) live with Drew when this happened? Both were called to the GJ so I’d imagine they would also be called to trial.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/jul/31/local/chi-drew-peterson_01aug01

    BTW – Steven has spoken out about his dad’s innocence officially for the first time that I’m aware of. I wonder if “all of the children of Drew Peterson” includes Eric. Eric isn’t even mentioned in this press release. It’s a shame that Steve didn’t take this opportnity to include that he prays for the safe return of his stepmom, Stacy, and that anyone that may have harmed his other stepmom, Kathleen, is found and held accountable.

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1388&z=4

    Drew Peterson’s Children: Dad is ‘Innocent’
    Peterson’s children release a statement and say they’re praying for his release.
    thepublicityagency.com – May 11, 2009

    (PRNewsChannel) / Bolingbrook, Ill. / The following is a statement from Stephen Peterson, the adult son of Drew Peterson, on behalf of his siblings:

    “All of the children of Drew Peterson fully support their father and know that he is innocent of the charges against him. We know him better than anyone else in the world and we know he is not guilty.

    “My younger brothers and sister, Chris, Tom, Anthony and Lacy, are staying with me. We miss our dad and are praying for his release every day.

    Neither I nor any of the children are doing any interviews. We ask that the media and public respect our privacy during this trying time.”

  17. Good, TAI. I’ll bet they will be called:

    Stephen Peterson
    Son of Drew Peterson. Lived at his home at the time of Kathleen’s death

    Jennifer Schoon
    Girlfriend of Stephen Peterson living at Drew’s home at the time of Kathleen’s death

  18. Doesn’t Glenn Selig realize that his PR spin no longer matters? This case is no longer one of public opinion.

  19. There were some good comments on last night’s Levi page show from a prosecutor (Donna Prendergast?). She pointed out that there are already standard exceptions to the hearsay rule which could be used in this case without even needing to pull in the new law.

    Most states already have exceptions pertaining to situations of domestic violence.

  20. http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1389&z=4

    Drew Peterson’s Attorney Reem Odeh to be Honored
    brodskyodeh.com – May 11, 2009

    PRNewsChannel) / Chicago, Ill. /
    Reem Odeh, one of Drew Peterson’s Chicago attorneys and a partner in the law firm of Brodsky & Odeh, will be installed Monday evening as a member of the Board of Directors of the Arab American Bar Association at a dinner in Chicago.

    Ms. Odeh, who was born in Virginia to a Palestinian-American family, has been an interagal part of Drew Peterson’s defense team.

    Ms. Odeh, who has been sometimes publicly critical of her law firm’s most famous client’s outragous antics, is a leader in the Arab-American community.

    In addition to being on the board of the Arab American Bar Assoc., Ms. Odeh is also involved in politics as a member of the Arab American Democratic Club and an Obama delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

    Before being sworn in, Ms. Odeh will spend the day meeting with her partner Joel Brodsky and attorney Andrew Abood planning strategy for Drew Peterson’s defense.

    I thought that Joel said Reem was ‘misquoted’ when she appeared to be critical of Drew’s inability to STFU.

  21. Roma (of Don Wade and Roma show) made me laugh this morning. She said “Oh, Drew Hoo” instead of boo hoo after a report that Cassidy gave her about the status of the Drew Peterson case.

  22. Facs – You know how lawyers are – you change your tune to fit the mold you want to show at that point in time.

    Kind of like Joel saying that lie detectors are no more right than a flip of the coin when talking about Drew letting the police give him one or when talking about the questions that Drew failed regarding Stacy yet now he is using the questions he had passed as proof that he is innocent.

  23. Some tidbits from Fox Chicago this morning:

    Rumor that JB is dropping out of the case.

    Some law guy said that the case, if given change of venue, would NOT go to Chicago, more likely Peoria, Rockford or someplace like that!

  24. This is what Joel told Ray Hanania a week ago:

    Q. Are you going to be defending Blago?

    A. I’m not going to be hired.

    Q. No plan to get involved in that case?

    A. I would love it.

    Of course, as TAI pointed out, the truth is a pretty fluid thing with Joel.

  25. From Twitter

    MancowMuller Coming up in a couple minutes on The #Mancow Show, #Dr. Badden on the condition of #Kathleen Savio’s body when he did the second autopsy.

    6 minutes ago from web

    Wasn’t Dr. Baden on the show talking about this last Friday?

  26. So…just back off, already.

    PublicityAgency As the statement indicates, Stephen Peterson does not wish to do any interviews at this time.

    19 minutes ago from txt

  27. A pathetically defensive commentary from Dana Pretzer. He tries to justify his ratings-mongering and pandering to Drew and Joel, by saying that he contributed to the many recorded statements Drew has made and that they could be brought is as testimony to be countered in court. Kind of a public service!

    Well, I guess I might have more faith in that if only Dana had actually used that air time to ask him some hard questions instead of stroking Joel and Drew and attempting to explain and excuse Drew’s bad behavior, by saying “it’s a cop thing”.

    Oh Dana, you’re no hero.

    http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/11/scared-monkeys-radio-daily-commentary-monday-may-11th-regarding-drew-peterson-interviews/

    If you want a refresher in what Drew said during the Scared Monkeys interviews there are a few transcripts available here:

    https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/documents/

  28. Mary Pontarelli’s husband and son may also be called:

    So I pulled up in the driveway, and I went next door to get Mary, and then we proceeded over to the house. And the locksmith and Drew were there. The locksmith opened up the door. Mary and I went up the stairs. Drew stayed downstairs by the door. And Mary`s husband and son went into the (INAUDIBLE) to see if the car was there.

    Source: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/30/ng.01.html

    I’ll still never get why Drew went through all of this trouble while on duty when he could easily have just asked police officers to go over there to check on her if he was concerned about her getting mad at him for being in the house.

  29. Sorry….short memory lol.

    How about the former chief who says he gave her his personal cell number?

  30. I should add all the names that I didn’t have as you guys suggest them — in a different color maybe?

  31. Bucket, I’ll see if I can find that guy’s name – the chief.

    There’s a spate of attorneys who represented Drew or Kathleen with the orders of protection, but I don’t know if they can be called. Anyone know?

  32. Bob Deel, crime scene guy who said it didn’t look suspicious while on the scene after the questioner noticed the bags on Kitty’s hands? Tell us, Mr. Deel why her hands were bagged if you thought it was an accident?

  33. I’m listening to the appearance of Drew on Pretzer’s show from July (which I hadn’t heard before), and his ass-kissing at that time was, if anything, more extreme. He invites them to trash Lenny & Paula, and Geraldo Rivera. He pretty much said that he brought Drew on the show that night to talk about L& P because “they rub me the wrong way”. Objective journalism at its best!

    There’s an even earlier appearance from March 11, so I’ll listen to that to try to give him the benefit of every doubt. I’m not very hopeful though.

  34. What is to stop opposition spies attending mock trials and taking notes? I sort of don’t get it unless they’re secret. :dunce:

  35. LOL @ doughnut!

    Maybe I’ll send Karen Conti an email and ask her about the whole concept of the mock trial and the possible impact it could have and then post it here. AFAIK, the participants are not provided with any discovery materials so…just how useful it could be, I don’t know.

  36. Noted attorney Wendy Murphy analyzes the case against Drew Peterson. http://tinyurl.com/r6346zabout 20 hours ago from web

    http://twitter.com/PublicAgency

    Facs, I would just add the new names in the same color so people don’t think there is something special about them (without reading the comments).

    What about Thomas and Nick Pontarelli? They too were in the house when Kathleen’s body was discovered, weren’t they?

  37. Peterson’s own statements will also likely be used against him, even if he never takes the stand. Things he said to family members and others, inconsistent statements, and even the comments he has made to the press, will help to build a circumstantial case for conviction. It might even be possible for the state to use evidence of Stacy’s disappearance to prove the case involving Savio because prosecutors are allowed to use “prior bad acts” to show motive, intent, state of mind and “pattern” or “common scheme” of conduct.

    Is it because Kathleen’s death was determined to be a homicide after Stacy went missing that Stacy’s disappearance could be used in Kathleen’s murder (as a “prior bad act”)? But wouldn’t they have to also prove that Drew had something to do with Stacy’s disappearance?

  38. I didn’t really understand either how Stacy’s disappearance could be called a “prior bad act” since it occured after Kathleen’s murder. But maybe that’s how it works.

  39. My list:

    Dennis Pratl – (Illinois State Police)
    Member of Coroner’s Jury

    Mike Calcagno – BBPD Chief in 2004 who gave Kathleen his cell number

    Elizabeth Fragale

    Randy Mucha

  40. Cyrhla, remind me of the relevance of these two to the case (so I don’t have to go look it up)?

    Elizabeth Fragale
    was she the State’s attorney Kathleen wrote to for help?

    Randy Mucha
    Was a friend or Drew’s, right? Relationship to Kathleen?

  41. That’s it! Calcagno. For some reason I thought it was something like “Galapagos” LOL

    Eliz Fragale?

  42. Hmmm. I never would have thought this, but this comes from an ABC legal analyst.

    Building a Case Against Drew Peterson
    Dislike for Drew Peterson Is One Thing, but is There Enough Evidence Against Him?

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/LawPolitics/story?id=7554507&page=1
    ********

    Excerpt…..
    If a murder indictment is handed down in Stacy Peterson’s death, experts said it could vastly change the case against Drew Peterson.

    “Then I think the prosecution will combine both cases, and each case will sort of feed off the other and will present a powerful picture to both a trial judge and a jury that this guy is a serial murderer,” Cole said.

  43. Randy Mucha is a disgraced Oak Brook police officer, who was sued by a couple for harassment, I think. In any event, they won a multi-million dollar lawsuit against O.B. He’s also, or was, anyway, a friend of Stephen, but I don’t understand what he adds to the murder of Kathleen Savio. I’m confused on this one.

  44. Rescue – I’ve wondered before if they could join both cases together into a single case with a single jury. Is there any chance that could really happen?

  45. TAI – I don’t know, that really surprised me to read that. I would think they’d do one at a time, but, charges piled on top of charges might prove overwhelming. They are so intricately tied-in.

    Still, shock of shock.

  46. I hope Stacy’s GJ will make the only right decision, and another arrest warant will be issued for Drew,so that Drew’s bail wasn’t lowered. It might have been the reason the court meeting on the bail takes place not today but in a week. 🙂

    I cannot stop thinking about the children… ;(

  47. There are cases against serial killers where they do the trial for multiple murders. I had always thought that could be a good way to go to show that as many people have speculated – Drew is either a killer or the most unlucky guy in the world.

    That would make a circumstantial case stronger IMO. Harder to explain away why there happens to be so much circumstantial evidence in mishaps with two wives.

  48. No one in Brodsky’s teams are even on the list for being approved as lead nor co-counsel for capital litigation per the latest registry dated May 8, 2009. There are no Connolly’s on the list either:

    http://www.state.il.us/COURT/SupremeCourt/Cap_Lit/TrialBarRosters.pdf

    When does the prosecution say if they are intending on pushing for the death penalty? Are the crimes he has been indicted on allow for capital punishment? I know that the state has a moratorium on actually going through with an execution but it was my understanding that someone could still get sentenced to death but they wouldn’t be put to death until the moratorium is lifted.

  49. TAI – yes, that is true, especially if they have compelling circumstantial evidence.

    Everytime I hear the talking heads (defense attorneys) say this is just a circumstantial case, I laugh. Isn’t most every case “circumstantial?” How many people say “hold on a minute, will you watch while I kill my spouse? Oh, and would you tape it for me while I do it?”

  50. Rescue, that’s exactly what Holly Hughes said on NG. 😀

    Let`s unleash the lawyers, former prosecutor Holly Hughes out of Atlanta, Bradford Cohen, a defense attorney out of New York, Doug Burns, defense attorney out of New York, as well. …

    GRACE: To Holly Hughes, why does everybody say just a circumstantial case? Most cases are circumstantial. A direct evidence case, Holly, is when there is an eyewitness or there is a direct link to the defendant. That`s extremely rare.

    HOLLY HUGHES, PROSECUTOR: Yes, it is, Nancy. And I used to have a professor who said circumstantial evidence is just that. It`s evidence. And that`s what we look at in 90 percent of our cases. Murder is not a spectator sport, Nancy. You don`t go out there and advertise, I`m about to kill my wife, you all want to come in off the street and watch?

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/08/ng.01.html

  51. thinkaboutit2 Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 8:40 am
    Steven Peterson and his girlfriend (Jennifer Schoon) live with Drew when this happened? Both were called to the GJ so I’d imagine they would also be called to trial.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/jul/31/local/chi-drew-peterson_01aug01

    BTW – Steven has spoken out about his dad’s innocence officially for the first time that I’m aware of. I wonder if “all of the children of Drew Peterson” includes Eric. Eric isn’t even mentioned in this press release. It’s a shame that Steve didn’t take this opportnity to include that he prays for the safe return of his stepmom, Stacy, and that anyone that may have harmed his other stepmom, Kathleen, is found and held accountable.

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1388&z=4

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    Yes, thinkaboutit, that is a really good observation.

    NO mention of either mothers in this statement concerning the children, especially with something so close to Mothers Day as well.

    Either mothers don’t account for much if your name is Peterson or Glenn Selig still doesn’t know how to read the public !!

  52. Against my better judgement I listenind to the man-cow
    this am. and the matter of Kathleen’s will came up, with talk of it possibly being a forgery by Drew to illegally obtain her assets and ace the kids out of their rightful inheritance. Fraud. Uncle *executor* Carroll came up, too. I was happy to have heard this.
    Maybe the man-cow is OK after all.

  53. IMO, Mancow is neither OK nor not OK.

    He’s like Derek Armstrong. He is a ratings-hungry famewhore who will say whatever they think will get the most attention at any given moment.

    It’s like Geraldo Rivera. I love to hear him go after Drew because he doesn’t pull any punches but I still think he’s laughable as a journalist.

    Anyway, now that Drew’s been indicted Mancow isn’t the only media pal of his to start backpedalling… 🙂

  54. Janet Alexander was the Cheif Deputy Coroner at the time of Kathleen Savio’s death and interestingly, she has never been called to testify. Additionally, janet Alexander SUED pat O’Neil and the Coroners office for not following protocol and procedure associated with the autopsy on Riley Fox. The entire issue was swept under the rug and it is a very big deal.

    There is a lot more to all of that and it ties in with Kathleen Savio’s Coroner’s inquest. SOMEONE NEEDS TO INTERVIEW JANET ALEXANDER and get it on record.

  55. The lack of concern for the dead/missing Peterson mothers and Drews continual public badmouthing of these women, specifically for his children to hear and see, will also play a big part in his downfall.

  56. As to the will, a judge called in the witnesses, who verified that they witnessed the will. In that regard, though, I wonder why Alex Morelli now wants nothing to do with Peterson. That is mysterious. If he witnessed the will at the time, but now makes a statement such as he has, what’s up with that?

  57. acandyrose.com

    Questions are also being raised about a two-page handwritten will signed by Savio and Drew Peterson that’s dated March 2, 1997. The document was taken into evidence by investigators Dec. 19, court records indicate. One of the two witnesses who signed the will, Bolingbrook police officer Alex J. Morelli, has appeared before a Will County grand jury hearing evidence about Savio’s death. Attempts to reach Morelli and the other witness, Gary L. Marcolina, were unsuccessful. In a recent interview, Peterson, 53, said there is nothing wrong with the will, which was filed 15 days after Savio was found dead on March 1, 2004. “We just tucked it away, and I found it after she died,” Peterson said of the will. “There’s nothing sinister and out-of-line about it. Everything was done proper.””At the time she died, Savio, 40, was in a court battle with Peterson over proceeds from the sale of a tavern they’d owned. Peterson, she claimed, had kept all the money from that sale. The will named Peterson’s uncle James B. Carroll executor of Savio’s estate. Carroll went on to award Peterson control of virtually all of Savio’s assets — even though Peterson and Savio had divorced. “The actions of the Executor were not in the best interest of the Estate or its beneficiaries,” wrote Richard J. Kavanagh, the court-appointed administrator for Savio’s estate.”Kavanagh was involved in the case because no one from Savio’s family formally volunteered to represent the estate in court. He called the will a “purported will” in court papers. “My concern is that this is a handwritten will that just popped up after she died,” Kavanagh said this week. “It gives you the sense that it’s something that’s concocted.” A judge, however, accepted the will because Marcolina and Morelli testified in court March 23, 2005, that they witnessed Savio and Peterson signing the document, Kavanagh said. Peterson dismissed Kavanagh’s concerns and asserted that the lawyer is angry that he couldn’t notch a hefty sum in legal fees off Savio’s case.”

  58. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iev-QaFql23MAy-W2Qh8vkc8VsKQD984A9IO1

    Drew Peterson arrest: What happens to the kids?
    By DON BABWIN – 54 minutes ago

    CHICAGO (AP) — Drew Peterson, charged in the death of his third wife and suspected in the disappearance of his fourth, soon might face another legal battle: a custody fight.

    The ex-cop had two children with Kathleen Savio, whom he’s accused of killing, and another two with Stacy Peterson, who has been missing since 2007. Drew Peterson’s adult son Stephen announced Monday that he has taken custody of the children, but relatives of Savio and Stacy Peterson are looking into whether they can change that.

    “We’d seen a lawyer a ways back and were told we’d have to wait until he was charged,” said Pamela Bosco, a friend of Stacy Peterson who has acted as a spokeswoman for her family. “We have to go back to a lawyer and see what’s available to us.”

    “It’s an issue that’s moved to the front burner,” said Martin Glink, an attorney representing Savio’s father and sister, who filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Peterson shortly before his arrest last week. He added, however, that he hasn’t talked about the issue with his clients or anyone else in the Savio family.

    Peterson, 55, is being held in lieu of $20 million bond as he awaits a hearing next week on first-degree murder charges in the 2004 death of Savio, who was found drowned in a dry bathtub, a gash to the back of her head.

    He has two boys, ages 16 and 14, with Savio and a 5-year-old boy and 4-year-old girl with Stacy Peterson. Peterson has long maintained his innocence in Savio’s death and Stacy Peterson’s disappearance…

  59. bucketoftea Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 11:46 am
    The Locksmith

    facsmiley Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 11:48 am
    Bucket – he’s last on the list. Still no name for that dude….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh yeah, the army of locksmiths and lock pickers standing in front of the door then call the invisible locksmith (!!)

    and who called the locksmith ??

    it was Drew, no it was Steve, no it wasn’t Steve as Drew called him, no it wasn’t Drew as Steve called him, no the locksmith was already there when Drew got there, no Drew asked Steve to call the locksmith, no when Steve got there, Drew was there with the locksmith, no when Drew got there Steve had called the locksmith, no when Drew and Steve got there, the locksmith opened the door !

    Oh oke, nevermind !!

  60. There was that estate specialist who said the will shouldn’t have mattered anyway since it only addressees what should happen in the case the two of them died, not Kathleen.

    Anyway, shouldn’t the divorce have made the thing null and void regardless?

  61. Angellove is right – Janet has a lot to say but has not been asked yet. O’Neil’s handling of the inquest process has been corrupt for a LONG time, and needs to be investigated.

  62. Facs, is that the guy who said one thing but then didn’t realize that Drew and Kathleen were already divorced at the time?

    Was he on SMM’s show?

  63. Yes, that’s who I mean. Ultimately disappointing, since he never realized that they were divorced.

  64. Grandam, did you see anything that would specifically link them to Kathleen’s case? I left Mike R off becasue I didn’t see anything.

  65. Someone (Drew/the uncle ?) stated that will was specifically drawn up before Drew and Kathleen went on a holiday to THE BAHAMAS.

    Would be good to determine if/when and exactly what date Drew and Kathleen supposedly went to the Bahamas, as the dicky will is dated exactly around the date of Kathleens demise (!!), except for the year, which is a few years earlier.

  66. Grandam, I’m sure the Robinsons have plenty to do with things and they could very well be called if the prosecution knows something specific about either of them and Kathleen, but since we don’t have anything like that, I’ll leave them off for now.

    If this case does end up as one of serial murder or if he’s indicted for Stacy’s murder, you know they’ll be there!

  67. I’m one of those who thinks that Will actually could be legit, in that Drew and Kathleen drew it up before a trip…but how it got admitted two years later, after the two were divorced, I’ll never understand.

    As Katzenstein said, the Will should have been deemed null and void since it only talked about how things should be distributed in case both died. Once that Will was thrown out, her estate should have been treated as if she had no Will at all and in that case, all of her assets should have gone to her two kids (since she was no longer married).

  68. I wonder…When is the trial going to start ? Anyone here got an approximate date ??

    I wonder..Does anyone think the two time murderer will get his bail reduced and let loose ??

    I wonder..What will the GJ decide on 5-21-09 ??…if
    they go that long….Hmmmmm

  69. facsmiley Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    I’m one of those who thinks that Will actually could be legit, in that Drew and Kathleen drew it up before a trip…but how it got admitted two years later, after the two were divorced, I’ll never understand.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oke, that’s why it’s very important to determine if Drew and Kathleen indeed went on a vacation to THE BAHAMAS not long after March 2, 1997 as that is the reason Drew said this will was made up.

    If there was no vacation to the Bahamas anywhere around that time, the will is BS.

    I am suspicious of the date of March 2, a bit too co-incidental with the death of Kathleen (!!)

    Also a bit bizarre to suddenly draw up a will before you go on a vacation to the Bahamas, unless you go rock climbing, sky diving or swimming with sharks (!)

    I mean Drew is a Police Officer – one of the most dangerous jobs in the world – and suddenly feels the need for a will only when he is thinking of going on a vacation ????

    Doesn’t make sense !!

  70. Remember, Katzenstein pointed out that the will shouldn’t have been admitted, whether bogus or not. So if that’s true, it wouldn’t even really matter if Kathleen signed it, when it was written…etc. It just shouldn’t have been allowed in to her estate hearing.

  71. facsmiley Says:

    May 11, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    Remember, Katzenstein pointed out that the will shouldn’t have been admitted, whether bogus or not. So if that’s true, it wouldn’t even really matter if Kathleen signed it, when it was written…etc. It just shouldn’t have been allowed in to her estate hearing.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes, I see your point and what Katzenstein is saying.

    The whole matter stinks left, right and centre that’s for sure !!

  72. I wonder..Does anyone think the two time murderer will get his bail reduced and let loose ??

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I can’t see them reducing a 20 million dollar bond to something Joel Brodsky thinks is reasonable enough to get Drew out (!!)

    Maybe they’ll reduce it to 19 million dollars – LOL !

  73. If Glasgow cannot successfully argue maintaining bail at the original $20,000,000, when Kevin Fox’s bail was $20,000,000 for murdering his own daughter, then I don’t think Glasgow will do too well in court.

    And before anyone jumps in and says Kevin Fox is innocent, better get that recorded statement from Janet Alexander, former Chief Deputy Coroner of Will County, first because that will help you to understand EXACTLY what happened there and WHY the coroner’s office is handling investigations inappropriately, unethically, and possibly criminal, including Kathleen Savio’s inquest.

  74. Relistening to some old interviews and it’s interesting to hear how often Drew compared his watch commander job to that of taking care of the four kids.

    How awful that he used the same comparison last week when he was applying to working in a whore house.

  75. Thank you angellove1 !

    Do you think Drew Petersons over confidence in his own ability to do whatever he wants will ultimately be the reason the lid is going to be blown off a whole lot of other things such as the ones you mentioned above ???

    Just curious !

  76. I think Cassandra’s immediate action in reporting Stacy missing was the trigger to everything. Drew did not expect that. He thought he was so much “smarter than those dumb people” )I don’t think they are dumb, just mimicking what I think the ape would be thinking).

    I think his narcissistic arrogance tainted his own jury pool. Only like minded individuals can defend his actions.

    I suspect, or more, I hope, that some of those who helped to cover things up with Kathleen have turned witness for the state. I really do hope that is the case. I fear, however, whether or not the Coroner’s office will be investigated due to Glasgow’s and O’Neil’s close relationship. They’re all from the same political party. Anyone who has been deeply involved in local politics can tell you and knows how close relationships within parties develop. Glasgow’s wife worked for the coroner’s office at the time and people need to know that. Someone needs to interview Janet Alexander and that interview needs to get out there into the mainstream media. More importantly, Janet should be heard in court. It’s much too important for it not to.

  77. angellove, I’m surprised I hadn’t heard about janet Alexander up to this point. Are you in communication with her? Do you know if she wants to speak out?

  78. Also, if you are aware of some details pertinent to the investigation (and especially if your work makes you privy to what goes on at the coroner’s office) you need to take that information to some investigative body. Hon, our little blog is not the place for it! 🙂

  79. Janet is eager to speak out and share the truth. Janet is a highly accredited professional. She has far more experience than most Coroners. She has attended several classes of Dr. Bauden’s, and she is one in only 10 or so in the entire State of Illinois who has achived and continues to maintain such a high level of accredidation in the Death Investigation field. Janet has personally performed hundreds of Coroner’s Inquests with a high level of professionalism and with the highest level of integrity.

    Yes, I know Janet.

  80. THANK YOU angellove1,

    VERY INTERESTING !!!

    Not surprising this is going to turn into a political hot potato at some stage, but they can’t sweep these murders under the carpet any longer now Drew has drawn so much attention to himself !

  81. Janet sounds like a fine person! I’m just not sure our blog is the place to get the message out. Has she tried contacting Joe Hosey or Erika Slife?

  82. Whoah! Did Mike Puccinelli actually get a quote from Eric?

    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.children.2.1007256.html

    But it turns out not all of Peterson’s children are behind him. He has another son from his first wife, and that son is estranged from his father and hasn’t had any substantial contact with him in years.

    He says he’s embarrassed by the attention brought on his family’s name by their father. He says he is very concerned about the welfare of the children, and wants to help them any way he can.

  83. Folks, as much as we welcome information relevant to the case, please refrain from letting your comments get to the point of spamming.

    The blog is for discussion of the cases and the sharing of news and ideas. Not the airing of personal grievances or agendas.

    Thanks for your patience and understanding.

  84. I had just seen that Mike Puccinelli’s article as well. Seems that Steve was not speaking for all of Drew Peterson’s kids. I’m sure that we can expect some kind of statement from Drew/Joel ripping Eric Peterson to shreds because he isn’t standing in full support of his father.

  85. He says he’s embarrassed by the attention brought on his family’s name by their father. He says he is very concerned about the welfare of the children, and wants to help them any way he can.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If that’s what Eric Peterson has said, that is the most sensible and subtle statement from a Peterson child yet !

  86. Facs, I think that’s what happens when you keep away from Drew Peterson. You’re able to think for yourself in a clear and rational way.

  87. Someone, at some early point in time, invented the word “dysfunctional.” I spell it P-e-t-e-r-s-o-n.

  88. It’s all a terrible tragedy really, whether these children are on Drews side or not !

    but at least there is one we now know of that didn’t inherit his fathers Sociopathic genes !

  89. I have hope for all of them. Kids are amazing in their ability to rise from childhood hells. It’s heartbreaking though.

  90. Good morning!

    Yes, there is hope for the kids! How wonderful if Eric will be back in the lives of the kids and vice versa.

    I just wanted to say that I think it’s a great idea to try both cases together. It is in reality one story that would make the most sense examined all together.

  91. CHICAGO (WBBM) – Drew Peterson’s attorney is denying a rumor that he could drop out of the Peterson case and head for another high profile Illinois case.

    Joel Brodsky says he cannot understand why the story of him possibly representing ex-Ill. Gov. Rod Blagojevich is circulating.

    Brodsky is expected to visit Drew Peterson for the first time since his weekend national media tour. He says his goal at the May 18th arraignment is to lower the $20 million bond set by a Will County judge.

    That means Peterson would have to come up with $2 million to bond out of jail.

    Brodsky believes if bond is set at half a million dollars Peterson will be able to post the necessary $50,000 cash.

    Meantime, Peterson’s his on-again, off-again fiance Christina Raines, Brodsky says, may retain an attorney because she is not comfortable with the line of questioning by Illinois state police.

    Brodsky calls the new Illinois “hearsay law” that prosecutors say they’ll use as part of the case a bad law

    A new state law enacted last year with the support of Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow makes it easier to use “hearsay” statements from victims who were allegedly killed to prevent them from testifying against their attackers.

    Peterson was arrested Thursday afternoon and charged with the murder of his third wife Kathleen Savio.

    Brodsky, who has been in New York making the rounds at the TV networks, says he’s talked to Peterson, and he says Peterson is a “tough guy… a strong man… and in good spirits.”

    http://www.wbbm780.com/Peterson-lawyer–sticking-with-Drew/4372002

    * * * * * * * * *
    Has he already forgotten that he said he’d LOVE to take on Blago’s case? Has he forgotten that he’s not qualified to try a murder?

  92. …oh, and he needs to attack the law because he can’t come up with evidence that disputes the prosecution’s case.

  93. Custody battle pending for Peterson’s kids?
    Comments

    May 12, 2009
    The Associated Press

    CHICAGO — Ex-cop Drew Peterson, accused of killing his third wife and suspected in the disappearance of his fourth, was caring for four children from those two wives when he was arrested last week for murder.

    Now while Peterson sits in jail, his adult son from yet another marriage announced Monday that he has taken custody of his half-siblings — setting up the potential for a complicated custody battle.

    “This is bizarre on top of bizarre,” said Jennifer Smetters, a family law attorney in Chicago who is not involved with the case. “Two missing wives, children from both families and then you’ve got another child from another wife who Drew wants to have custody of the kids?”

    Peterson, 55, awaits a hearing next week on first-degree murder charges in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found drowned in a dry bathtub, a gash to the back of her head.

    He has two boys, ages 16 and 14, with Savio and a 5-year-old boy and 4-year-old girl with Stacy Peterson, who has been missing since October 2007. A fixture on the talk show circuit, Peterson has long maintained his innocence in both cases.

    Stephen Peterson, Drew Peterson’s adult son from a previous marriage, issued a statement Monday on behalf of his siblings, noting that they are staying with him.

    “All of the children of Drew Peterson fully support their father and know that he is innocent of the charges against him. We know him better than anyone else in the world and we know he is not guilty,” Stephen Peterson said.

    Peterson wanted his children to stay with his adult son, said Reem Odeh, the law partner of Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s attorney, who has worked on Peterson’s behalf. She said she did not know if Peterson wrote something out or just directed authorities to turn his kids over to the older son.
    Guardianship of 4 children
    Now the families of Savio and Stacy Peterson are looking into ways they can get the kids.

    “We’d seen a lawyer a ways back and were told we’d have to wait until he was charged,” said Pamela Bosco, a friend of Stacy Peterson who has acted as a spokeswoman for her family. “We have to go back to a lawyer and see what’s available to us.”

    It’s a similar story from an attorney representing Savio’s father and sister, who shortly before the murder charges had filed a wrongful death lawsuit alleging that Peterson drowned Savio in 2004.

    “It’s an issue that’s moved to the front burner,” said Martin Glink, who acknowledged that he hasn’t talked about the issue with his clients or anyone else in the Savio family.

    After the Savio family filed the wrongful death lawsuit, Peterson appeared beside his teenage sons on CBS’ “Early Show,” during which the older boy defended his father and characterized his grandfather and aunt as virtual strangers.

    “I don’t remember meeting him,” 16-year-old Thomas Peterson said of Henry Savio. “If he was walking down the street I wouldn’t recognize him. And my aunt, I haven’t seen in six years.”

    Chicago attorney Matthew Kirsh said the current custody arrangement may be hard to challenge because Peterson has certain rights as a parent.

    “A parent whose rights have not been terminated has the right to designate a guardian in writing,” Kirsh said.

    Even so, Smetters said if she represented a relative of either mother, she would tell her client to seek guardianship of all four children.

    “The court needs to place the children in the home that would serve their best interests,” Smetters said. “I would advise them to prepare their home to take all of the children. It’s very important that these children don’t go through any more upheaval.”
    DCFS investigating
    On Thursday, Bolingbrook police came to the house to take the children past a growing crowd of news crews.

    “Both sets of kids (were taken) with tarps or blankets over their heads,” said neighbor Sharon Bychowski. “All you could see was their little gym shoes.”

    They were transferred to the state’s Department of Children and Family Services, which turned them over to “relatives” but would not identify who. The child welfare agency also investigated Stephen Peterson’s home, Odeh said.

    “They had to make sure he was fit. … They couldn’t just hand the kids over,” she said.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1568982,4_1_JO12_PETERSON_S1.article

  94. Thanks, bucket, and good morning 🙂

    The best for the children would be not to separate them. On the other hand, it is a really hard job for any person taking care of them. I think if they were separated (Tom + Chris and Antony + Lacy) but lived close to each other and could spend as much time as possible together, but having loving families, it would not be such a dramatic solution. They now need INDIVIDUAL attention. The most important thing, IMO, is not to let anybody break their bounds.

  95. Morning Cyrhla

    It would be great if all four could stay together. They provide continuity and links to their mothers for each other, and the older boys appear to have had a lot to do with the little ones’ care. They will probably still feel responsible and under these horrible circumstances that it’s still their job to protect them.

  96. Brodsky believes if bond is set at half a million dollars Peterson will be able to post the necessary $50,000 cash.

    * * * * * * * *

    Oh, well, that’s alright then. The courts are always obliged to set bail that suits the accused’s wallet.LOL

  97. Believe this: Drew has ruled the kids with an iron fist, controlling their thoughts and actions exactly as he did his former wives and missing current wife Stacy. He drags them out like little stage props when the situation warrants and when there are cameras rolling. I am most certain they have lived lives of absolute terror, anxiety and confusion. Their mother dies and their new mother *disappears* and dad brings into their home yet another surrogate mother in the form of an empty-headed dysfunctional bimbo young enough to be his daughter and if anyone thinks for one second this has no effect upon the mental and emotional health of the kids, they are tripping.
    If ” the thing” cared at all about the kids, he would never have done what he did. To him they are little
    mini-me’s his alter ego’s or props.
    The poor children need love. prayers and therapy.

  98. bucketoftea Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 7:28 am
    Brodsky believes if bond is set at half a million dollars Peterson will be able to post the necessary $50,000 cash.

    * * * * * * * *

    Oh, well, that’s alright then. The courts are always obliged to set bail that suits the accused’s wallet.LOL

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL, yeah how inconsiderate of the States Attorney he did not consult Joel Brodsky first how much bond money Joel would find reasonable (!!)

    Oh well Joel Brodsky already let the States Attorney know he’s got no case and it’s all hearsay and double hearsay, yet he is going to vigorously defend the charges.

    Does that make sense ??

  99. These poor kids. I hope they don’t get split up. I wish there was a way that the families could some how work on getting visitation rights but let them stay together with Steve instead of trying to fight for actual custody. It is very important for these kids to know that Kathleen and Stacy’s families love them dearly and miss being able to see them like they used to.

    IDK what the right answer for these kids is but breaking them apart is not going to be good for kids who have lost their mother(s), father, and now there is talk about them losing each other.

    I am sure their intentions are good. I don’t know anything about Steve or anyone else for that matter so hopefully the authorities will weigh everything out and do what is best for the kids.

    My heart just breaks for these kids. I truly cannot get them out of my head and my heart.

  100. Good morning everyone.

    Maybe Brodsky has to deny rumors about getting off the case because he was the one that said Peterson would never, never, ever, be arrested for either of the Kathleen or Stacy matters.

    Oops, but he said they were well prepared for the arrest in the event it happened, which certainly didn’t look like the case to any of us. Ten days of pondering one’s bling in a jail cell sure sounds like trouble to me.

    I can’t decide who looks like the fool more? The client who believed the lawyer who said he was never, never, ever, going to be charged, or the lawyer who says they were fully prepared for this? Hmmmm.

  101. BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (AP) — Drew Peterson’s adult son says dad’s no killer.

    Stephen Peterson said Monday that the family is praying for his father’s release from jail.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There you have it, Steven Peterson and the children are praying their “innocent” Dad is coming home soon and Joel Brodsky deliberately lets him sit in jail until at least the 18th as part of his “secret defense plan”

  102. Hey Rescue

    I don’t think Joel ever really believed there would be no charges. Just bravado BS. Par for the course.

  103. I hope Stephen prayed all these eighteen months for justice for Kathleen, and for Stacy to be found. And I hope he prayed for the well being of his siblings while his father used the occasion to promote his sexual desires and fantasies. I hope he prayed that the children remained safe while his father left them on numerous occasions to travel on whirlwind media blitzes, or went to the bars at night. I hope he prayed that the children remained safe while his father let his house become his own personal brothel.

    Then, maybe, I’d have some respect for him.

  104. bucketoftea Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 9:07 am
    Hey Rescue

    I don’t think Joel ever really believed there would be no charges. Just bravado BS. Par for the course.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m not so sure, maybe Joel Brodsky is a lot more delusional than we think (!!)

    Starting to wonder too, if this “secret Defense strategy” means there is no strategy at all and Joel is totally overwhelmed by the 20 million dollar bond, considering he can only scrape $ 50.000.00 together.

    It looks like it sucks to be Joel Brodsky too !!

  105. Wasn’t Joel bragging on radio about how he wasn’t afraid Drew wouldn’t be able to pay him since he had so many successful side businesses on top of his police work?? Now they are saying they need the bond lowered so he only has to come up with $50K? Which is it? Once again “lawyer talk” where they talk out of both sides of their mouths to fit the circumstance of the moment.

  106. “Drew not only was a police officer but he was a business man. He owned a bar. He had a printing company. He had a photography company. He had, if I recall, five different businesses. All were profitable.”

    We know Drew had his hands on $250k early on because that’s what he temporarily handed off to Stephen.

    Also, according to Drew, Stacy walked out of the house with $25k. Sound like he’s got more money than he knows what to do with.

  107. Nevermind – I must be sleeping behind the keyboard as I just found some of his articles from this past week. Silly me!

  108. My guess is that Joel was the one who started the rumors about him leaving Drew for Blago. Just to get Drew some PR.

    I guess there is a fine line between a bond that is reasonable for your client so that he can raise the money and your client having so much money from his successful businesses that he might be a flight risk?

    Who on Drew’s defense team is qualified to chair a capital murder case? Any of them (Abood, Carroll, Brodsky?) IDTS

  109. 😀 I was thinking “I Don’t Think So” and abbreviated it. It sorta looks like I meant to type IDIOTS. Both apply.

  110. Joel was seen having lunch with another of Blago’s atty’s plus, he sent out at least two pro-Blago essays via the Publicity Agency a few weeks ago. It looked like he was actively ‘courting’ him to me.

    Even on this blog people were wondering if he was trying to get hired on with him…

    I can understand why he’d want to jump ship at this point!

  111. I read this somewhere but don’t know if it’s true:

    “Drew Peterson has not been charged with capital murder. That would negate bail being set.”

    And this,

    “In Illinois bail will not be set for a capital case and can be denied per the Illinois Constitution for any case where the person may be subjected to a penalty of life in prison.”

  112. Maybe Joel wants Drew to sit in prision because he is easier to control in there. It really must be hard on a marriage if you have a client that must keep a leash on 24/7 and hang out with and drink with and get girls for. He can say, we are working on it drew, sit tight. Meanwhile, in the land of free he out schmoozing right along.

    As for the kids, I wonder if any of the information that comes to light will make Stephen see the light, or is he so conditioned that all he sees is the world picking on his dad. On the flip side of that coin, what is it that makes Eric not belive in his father.

    I hope the Savios (the parents)change there mind about attending court. When my cousins were killed by a drink driver we attend court every day to help make the judge and jury aware of how many people were affected by their deaths. I understand it will be hard, but I still think they need to be there.

  113. I don’t know how the whole capital murder thing works. Seems like they have put in on, took it off, and then put it back on in the Casey Anthony case.

    I’d imagine that they have decided not to go that route yet as it as juries on trials that involve the death penalty often require an even higher burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Guess time will tell.

  114. Re, capital murder/bail. Is it different state by state? We need to get a lawyer to blog here!

    And I don’t mean Joel. That’s been done. 😉

  115. Didn’t Glasgow say during the press conference that the bastard is facing 60 years (in response to a reporter’s question)? I haven’t gone back to listen to the PC again, but that is what I recall him saying.

    I wouldn’t consider a 60 year sentence punishment for a capital crime.

  116. Myabelle, I just did a quick Google and I’m seeing 60 years as well.

    “Drew Peterson faces up to 60 years in prison after a grand jury Thursday indicted the 55-year-old former Bolingbrook police sergeant in the 2004 murder of his third wife.”

  117. They must not have currently charged him with a capital offense. I think they could upgrade the charges if they decide to but are probably looking to take the route they have the most confidence in.

    Or maybe they are taking the kids into consideration who have already lost their mother(s).

  118. In all the excitement of the last few days I forgot to check the ISP intern’s blog:

    Thursday, May 7, 2009
    HOLY CRAP

    It’s finally happened!!!

  119. May 12, 2009
    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com

    CHICAGO — Drew Peterson’s lawyer says the $20 million bond keeping his client locked up is way out of line, but the father of the accused wife-murderer’s supposed wife-to-be claims Peterson has the cash to get free.

    “My daughter says he’s got it, but it might wipe him out,” said Ernie Raines, the father of Peterson’s live-in fiancé, Chrissy Raines.
    Not only does Peterson, who is locked up on first-degree murder charges in connection with the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, have the money, but he was using it as bait to keep Chrissy in his home, Raines said.

    Raines said Peterson told his daughter that “everything is paid for. The house, she don’t have to work,” and that he went to Peterson’s home to confront him about this while Chrissy was out.

    “I saw the house,” Raines said. “It’s gorgeous.”

    Raines said Peterson boasted he would put Chrissy through school, but the father of the bride-to-be grew suspicious that, while Peterson has plenty of money, he did not plan to spend it on his girlfriend.

    “He lied to my daughter,” Raines said.

    “He didn’t give her nothing.”

    And Raines says his daughter, who is now living with her two children at her sister’s home, has grown angry with him for speaking out against Peterson. Raines said he explained to his daughter, “I’m trying to defend you.

    “I’m trying to tell the world, ‘It’s not you, it’s him,'” he said.

    Chrissy has yet to visit Peterson in jail, her father said, and he told her to keep it that way.

    Peterson is due back in court Monday. His attorney is trying to get the $20 million bond dropped to something more affordable, but Raines believes Peterson is just trying to hold some cash back and can make bail anyway.

    Raines does not want to see that happen.

    “If he does bond out, I’m afraid my daughter’s going to go running right back to him,” he said.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/genevasun/news/1569552,Drew-Peterson-bail-fiance-dad-JO051209.article

  120. All that talk from Brodsky about Drew’s successful businesses is going to come back and bite him in the butt.

    I’m almost to the point where I want to say about Chrissy Raines: If Drew gets out on bond, and she goes back to him, let her go back and whatever happens to her happens.

    I think Chrissy is only standing by her man because visions of dollar signs are dancing in her head.

    Interesting to know that Drew could come up with $2 million dollars. But would he have to dig into the kids’ money to do it? I mean the kids money that is in his name. 🙄

  121. Illinois is a capitol punishement state, however, there are a few factors to consider.
    -When George Ryan left office, he suspended all of the executions in the state pending further investigations since people found to be innocent or exonerated were on death row and they did not want to be executing innocent people. The last execution we had here was Gacy, several years ago, and it usually takes YEARS to get to that point, after several mandatory appeals.
    -drew is a former police officer, and dirty or not i am not sure if that affords him some measure of safty from the needle. they may instead opt for consecutive life sentences on each count, with no possibility of parole, or consecutive sentences of 60 years on each count with no parole.

    if it was ME, i would try and get the death penalty for kathleen and then see if the lawyers would strike a deal: take the needle off the table if he confesses to stacy, gives up her body, and allocutes for both cases. drew being the narssacictic sociopath he is, he will NEVER do this, because he will never admit he has done anything wrong. but one can dream…

  122. Oh, interesting, Princessmatilda!

    Thinkaboutit said:
    She’ll be back in his arms faster than Brodsky could say “uh”.

    * * * * * *

    ROFL!!

  123. Don’t mean to spam, but I wanted to respond to angellove1 above: Kevin Fox IS innocent – the DNA test (of which there were two, which is why there was a red flag) exonerated him.

  124. Ernie’s info about Drew’s financial situation is coming from Chrissy, and Chrissy got her info from Drew so…man, I wouldn’t really put much store in those statements. Remember, she’s not even sure whether or not she’s engaged to him, or wether he’s divorced. 🙂

  125. Bucket, that’s why I’m saving it for future reference. Don’t think I’ll go through it unless necessary.

  126. If he’s got that kind of money available to him, he is connected to some powerful BAD people.

    Stacy’s body will never be found, he had bigtime help & he seems to have lots of people who OWE HIM!

  127. Facs that’s a great idea….but why are you giving yourself more work? lol

    Facs’ Edit/ If someone wants to volunteer to compile them and send an email, that’s half the job right there.

    *hint* *hint*

  128. I think the letter is important evidence because Joel has been saying that any of Kathleen’s letters or calls should be tossed out since they came in the midst of a contentious divorce and he challenges the veracity of the statements she makes in them.

    This letter sent to Kitty is not from someone currently divorcing Drew and it describes numerous moral and legal transgressions, including dating a minor while in a position of authority, allowing someone in custody to be beaten and planting evidence in order to make drug arrests.

  129. 2002, I don’t know.

    Mike Calcagno was appointed chief Sep 12, 2003 and had been a deputy at some point before that.

  130. luvpups Says:
    May 12, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    If he’s got that kind of money available to him, he is connected to some powerful BAD people.

    Stacy’s body will never be found, he had bigtime help & he seems to have lots of people who OWE HIM!

    Well, maybe he collected more on the life insurance policies because Kathleen’s death was ruled accidental (some policies pay double). He may have siphoned off the extra for himself.

  131. Wouldn’t shock me if he had $2M. He came up in LE when the wise guys were running the show (gambling, adult book stores etc). Wise guys payed well.

  132. JUST HEARD KATHLEEN SAVIO SISTER SUE DOMAN AND FATHER WILL BE AT THE HEARING ON MONDAY.SUE DOMAN AND HER HUSBAND AND FATHER WILL BE DOING A PRESS CONFRENCE AFTER THE HEARING.

  133. I believe there’s a very strong likelihood that he collected on the double-indemnity accidental clauses on those policies, Noway. It’s pretty clear his dear old uncle handed him the windfall of approximately $600,000 from Kitty’s estate. If he only set up the trust for Tommy and Kris for $1 million, but he actually collected $2 million — he should have plenty of stash to make bail. IIRC, according to the handwritten will, there was another life policy on Kitty for either $100,000 or $125,000, and also a spousal policy through BBPD. All of these amounts combined comes pretty close to $2 million that he could have potentially grabbed and taken control of. It makes sense and may be the basis of Ernie’s comment that he could make that high bail, but it would clean him out. Wouldn’t that be a crying shame if he had to fork all of Kitty’s blood money up next Monday? It will truly be a shame if that judge lowers that bond and he is able to walk next Monday. He’s where he needs to be, IMO, and he needs to stay there.

  134. I wonder…Is it true that the two time murderer would have to pay the two million and not get ANY of it back, provided he doesn’t jump bail ?

    I wonder…Does the two time murderer think 2 million is worth a few months of freedom ?

  135. I believe the purpose of a bail bond is to assure the defendant’s appearance at trial. If a defendant goes to trial and is found not guilty, the bond is discharged at that time. If a person is found guilty ty, the bond is discharged at the time of sentencing.

    I believe it might be less 10% for court costs.

  136. cyrhla Says:
    May 12, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    It was Kenneth Each by March 2003, since 1997. He came to BB from North Miami, Florida.
    ——-
    I meant the Chief of BBPD, Sorry 🙂

  137. princessmatilda Says:
    May 12, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    he cannot use the house because it is in stacy’s name and not his.

    ————
    Not his and hers?

  138. sorry…i got cut off…i meant to say he cannot use the house as collateral or sell it because is it in stacy’sname…unless at some point he transferred his name to the deeds.

  139. when he bought the house he was still marrid to kathleen and he did not want her to have any claim over it in the divorce so he put the house, the cars and a bunch of other stuff in stacy’s name.

  140. From Kitty’s letter to Elizabeth Fragale:

    “On three different occasions I have tried to reach you over the phone regarding charges I have filed against Drew Peterson, on the date of July 5, 2002.

    Note, I did contact the police department, and talked to assistant Chief Mike Calcagno, in reference to Drew Break in that same weekend…”

  141. when he bought the house he was still marrid to kathleen and he did not want her to have any claim over it in the divorce so he put the house, the cars and a bunch of other stuff in stacy’s name.

    * * * * * * * * * *

    IIRC the other disputed document besides the will would relinquish any and all claims she might have on the new house. He wouldn’t need to put it in her name.

  142. he put the house, her car, several guns, and a few of his “toys” in her name. not long after she disappeared, he wanted to sell and move, but he could not, because he could not legally sell the house. in order to legally liquidate her assests, he has to prove death or abandonment. with the investigation into her disappearance and him being the prime (and only) suspect, a court will not grant abandonment until and unless they can prove she is stil alive and left of her own free will.
    he has been hiding assets for years, in his kids’ names, wives’ names, probably other relatives and assumed names as well. i’m sure TPTB are looking into this, and it would be interesting to see him get audited by the IRS…

  143. rescueapet Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 9:21 am
    I hope Stephen prayed all these eighteen months for justice for Kathleen, and for Stacy to be found. And I hope he prayed for the well being of his siblings while his father used the occasion to promote his sexual desires and fantasies. I hope he prayed that the children remained safe while his father left them on numerous occasions to travel on whirlwind media blitzes, or went to the bars at night. I hope he prayed that the children remained safe while his father let his house become his own personal brothel.

    Then, maybe, I’d have some respect for him.

    =====================================================

    Very, very well said!

  144. I wouldn’t give too much credit to Christinas statements re Drews wealth as she has the maturity of a dizzy teenager and in her eyes Drew is probably a very wealthy man and he would have played on that to keep her interested.

    As Ernie says Drew gave her nothing, even the engagement ring was a hand me down.

    Amongst other things he had promised to buy her a car, so far that’s been Stacy’s car she’d been driving, even if he changed the title in her name (not sure if he did), then that’s another hand me down.

    People like Drew only invest in you and give you things they can take back.

    His whole life is a facade and everything he does is about HIM, how to best manipulate and victimize someone in order to get what HE wants !!

  145. princessmatilda Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 5:06 pm
    he put the house, her car, several guns, and a few of his “toys” in her name. not long after she disappeared, he wanted to sell and move, but he could not, because he could not legally sell the house. in order to legally liquidate her assests, he has to prove death or abandonment. with the investigation into her disappearance and him being the prime (and only) suspect, a court will not grant abandonment until and unless they can prove she is stil alive and left of her own free will.
    he has been hiding assets for years, in his kids’ names, wives’ names, probably other relatives and assumed names as well. i’m sure TPTB are looking into this, and it would be interesting to see him get audited by the IRS…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Exactly !!

  146. Jane Velez-Mitchell CNN guests include Joe Hosey looks like Drew may face additional indictment soon.

    He absolutely must not be allowed out on bail.He is a danger to the community.

  147. Chrissy is really stupider than she looks. She needs to see a psych to get her head in order. To still ‘love’ him after all this shows she really has some underlying issues going on.

  148. Heres the information on the mock trial.
    http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=93&Itemid=168

    The People v. Drew Peterson
    WGN Radio Presents “The People v. Drew Peterson”

    Hosts Greg Adamski & Karen Conti to host mock trial of the closing arguments in the prosecution of Drew Peterson

    Chicago attorneys Greg Adamski and Karen Conti, hosts of WGN Radio’s Legally Speaking, will host a mock trial of the closing arguments in the murder prosecution of Drew Peterson for the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, on Thursday, May 28 from 6-8pm at the IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law. The event will be open to the public and taped for broadcast on WGN Radio on Sunday, June 14 and Sunday, June 21.

    “The People v. Drew Peterson” will feature Greg Adamski as moderator, Karen Conti as prosecutor, and lawyer Joseph R. Lopez as Drew Peterson’s defense attorney. Retired Cook County Circuit Court Judge Richard Neville will preside and a professional jury consultant will be present to quickly screen and select jurors who will be taken from the audience. The jury will be given a short period of time to deliberate and a verdict will be rendered before the night is over. The event is intended as an educational exposition, based solely on the facts that have been publicly reported.

    Tickets are free but extremely limited. Click the link below to register for free tickets. The event will be taped and broadcast on WGN Radio on Sunday, June 14 and Sunday, June 21, prior to the Chicago Cubs broadcasts – the exact start times will be announced closer to air dates.

    Drew Peterson was indicted by a Will County grand jury last week on two counts of murder in connection with Savio’s death. He is scheduled to be arraigned May 18. Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, has maintained his innocence in the case.

    Click here to register for free tickets
    Please note that tickets are not guaranteed; you will receive an e-mail notification on May 22 if you have been selected to attend

  149. cyrhla Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    If he pays 2 millions, he won’t have money to run away LOL

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s right, Drew would never want to put 2 million of his own money into his Bond as only he knows what the States Attorney possibly has on him and what other charges could be hanging over his head (besides Stacy and Kathleen)and he would effectively cut off his own escape route by doing so, especially since Joel Brodsky is the one emphasizing “flight risk” all the time.

    Hmmmm – Did Joel let the cat out of the bag again ??

  150. aussienat Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 6:41 pm
    Chrissy is really stupider than she looks. She needs to see a psych to get her head in order. To still ‘love’ him after all this shows she really has some underlying issues going on.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I think it’s because Drew said he “loves her to death” and he really does mean that !!

  151. I heard interview with Chrissy will be on Fox at 9 tonight.

    I thought she was shy and just wanted to be left alone.

  152. She’s desperate for her 15 minutes of fame.

    Her dad has probably convinced her she can get rich off this. She probably can build up a bit of a nest egg, I think a lot of the trashy tabloids pay for interviews don’t they? And remember, Scott Peterson’s girlfriend ended up writing a book after he went to prison.

  153. Last I heard of her, she was yelling “get those cameras out of my face.” “Get off of the property.”

    See, what a couple of days will do to straighten one out? Duh.

  154. I just hope she picked a wedding dress that is versatile, like an outfit you equally can wear to Court, to visit someone in prison or wear in t.v. interviews (!!)

  155. It must also be a delight for the children to be reunited with their Dads gun collection at Steven Petersons house.

    They must have missed their Dads guns after they were so brutally taken away by investigators (!!)

  156. http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/crime/fiancee_visits_peterson

    Fiancée Visits Drew
    Peterson in Jail

    Updated: Tuesday, 12 May 2009, 8:22 PM CDT
    Published : Tuesday, 12 May 2009, 7:55 PM CDT

    Christina Raines was not happy to see Fox Chicago News outside the Will County Jail.

    The young woman who remains engaged and committed to Drew Peterson, despite his arrest for the murder of his third wife, arrived at the Will County Jail visitation center around 12:30 pm.

    Dressed in Capri pants, a white sleeveless sweater and high heels, she chatted with Peterson for a half hour; the allotted time the jail allows.

    The visit was in a separate wing of the jail. And, it was not in person. Raines and Peterson could only see one another through a video monitor and a phone handset.

    Afterwards, Raines was in no mood to talk about the visit.

    When asked why she was at the jail, she told Craig Wall, “None of your f*$%@*in’ business.”

    When Craig Wall broke the news to Ernest Raines about his daughter’s visit, he was in shock.

    He had hoped that after Peterson was locked up, the relationship that caused him grave concern would finally be over.

    “He manipulated her. He conned her. And, he spun his web and I just don’t know. I’m sick to my stomach,” said Raines.

    Raines says his daughter loves Peterson’s two young children, and must love him too if she’s going to see him.

    “Till’ they say he’s guilty and they give him sixty years, that’s when she’ll wake up. I just hope to god he don’t make bail,” added Raines.

    Tune into Fox Chicago News at nine to watch the exclusive video of Raines outside the Will County Jail.

  157. They said there is only one other person besides Chrissy and Joel on Drew’s visting list, and that is Steve Carcerano.

  158. I read that he’s only allowed two half hour visits per week,and the jail has to have 48 hours notice.

  159. Um, Crissy loves Peterson’s two young children?? Did I read that right?? Does that mean she doesn’t love the 2 older children? Hmmm, maybe they don’t repect Daddy’s new bimbo.

  160. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30648065/

    Peterson’s Lie Detector Test

    By Rob Stafford, Ryan Pollyea
    NBCChicago.com
    updated 6:19 p.m. CT, Tues., May 12, 2009

    In an interview shot last year but airing for the first time tonight on Dateline NBC, Drew Peterson claims he didn’t know how to beat a polygraph.

    Author Derek Armstrong said he had Peterson take a lie detector test as a condition of writing a book about the case, and Armstrong said on questions about Kathleen Savio’s murder, Peterson showed no deception.

    “I’m not experienced with polygraphs at all,” Peterson told Dateline NBC’s Hoda Kotb. “I was answering truthfully.”

    But how truthful was the polygraph? Peterson’s attorney Joel Brodsky decided which topics could be addressed during the examination and which could not be discussed, Armstrong said.

    One topic in particular was forefront in Armstrong’s mind, but Brodsky wouldn’t allow it.

    “The key one would be did he hire someone or know of someone being hired to harm either Kathleen Savio or Stacy Peterson,” Armstrong said of the polygraph test. “I wasn’t allowed to ask that question.”

    Attorney Joel Brodsky said he did not put limits on the test. Brodsky has referenced that particular polygraph in a number of recent interviews including one during NBC’s Today Show on Friday morning. On the night of Peterson’s arrest, Brodsky told NBC Chicago, “If you recall, Drew Peterson already took a polygraph exam regarding Kathleen Savio’s death for that book, ‘Drew Peterson Exposed’ and passed the polygraph exam totally.”

    The polygraph Peterson submitted to also contained a section of six questions about the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson. Of the six questions, Armstrong said Peterson was found to be not deceptive in answering three of the questions, including whether he harmed Stacy during the time of her disappearance.

    However, Peterson was found to be deceptive in three of his answers in the section about Stacy Peterson, according to Anderson.

    Peterson discussed these answers with NBC’s Hoda Kotb:
    Hoda Kotb: “The first one was, ‘Did you last see Stacy at home when you got home from work?’ You answered ‘Yes.’ The test showed you were being deceptive. Were you surprised when the test showed that?”
    Drew Peterson: “Yes- that’s- I answered truthfully.”
    Hoda Kotb: “Next question, ‘Do you know the whereabouts of your wife?’ You answered ‘No.’ The test showed you were being deceptive.”
    Drew Peterson: “Right.”
    Hoda Kotb: “Again-”
    Drew Peterson: “No, I didn’t.”
    Hoda Kotb: “Any explanation?”
    Drew Peterson: “None. None.”
    Hoda Kotb: “Were you lying?”
    Drew Peterson: “No, I was telling the truth.”

  161. That’s not the first mention of an interview that has not been screened until now.

    I’m curious: why have TV networks sat on these interviews until now?

  162. charmed4sr Says:

    May 12, 2009 at 9:29 pm
    Um, Crissy loves Peterson’s two young children?? Did I read that right?? Does that mean she doesn’t love the 2 older children? Hmmm, maybe they don’t repect Daddy’s new bimbo.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hmmmmm, Chrissie “sacrifices” herself (by hanging around Drew and going back and forth) because she “loves” Petersons two young children !

    I bet Stacy loved her children more, considering they were her own children, but Stacy supposedly just ran off and left them, never to be heard from again (!!)

    Someone needs to ask Chrissie how that makes sense !!!!!

  163. I posted this on whereisstacy:

    So Drew, your gf telling someone to feck off on national TV is OK, but Cassandra can’t see the kids because you don’t approve of her driving? Riiiight!

    So many things came to mind watching that clip.

    1) To my eyes, Chrissy has lost a lot of weight. I thought she was a tiny bit chubby in earlier pictures. Is it part of the ‘improvements’ that he likes to make on his women? We know Stacy had a boob job and a tummy tuck to please him.

    2) I hope to God the conversations between Carcerano and DP in the jail are recorded. That POS knows something, for sure!

    I also had a thought about the many businesses dp owned. Sounds like somebody was laundering some dirty money!

  164. Just listened to Justice Interrupted and took some notes:

    Joel won’t speak to Joe Hosey. He called him on his cell after the arrest but Joel said “I’m too busy”. Joe asked him if he was getting a “real lawyer” to handle the courtroom and Joel hung up.

    Joel wrote a scathing email to them last time Joe was on and called one of the ladies (I can guess which) the “C” word.

    Rumors around the courtrooms (and the barrooms) are:

    May 19th or 20th charges coming for Stacy.

    ~and~

    Drew had been calling major literary agents and most hung up on him. Finally got a deal from Phoenix books. Speculation that he won’t write the book now that he’s in jail.

    I wonder if he’ll just get Chrissy to ghost-write it for him.

  165. One topic in particular was forefront in Armstrong’s mind, but Brodsky wouldn’t allow it.

    “The key one would be did he hire someone or know of someone being hired to harm either Kathleen Savio or Stacy Peterson,” Armstrong said of the polygraph test. “I wasn’t allowed to ask that question.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There we have it, Derek Armstrong revealing a bit more about Drew and Joels sleazy way of operating and what a telling question not allowed to be asked (!!)

    It looks like Derek is putting everyone on a slow drip (LOL)

    A bit of information here and a bit of information there, put it all together and Derek has the goods on Drew (!!)

  166. Wow facs, this just gets more and more ridiculous. A professional (and I use that term very loosely) attorney calling a woman on a radio show a C…? Absolutely disgusting.

    I love that publishing houses hung up on Drew. It makes my blood boil that he continues to assert he is a good dad and the media are runing his childrens’ lives.

    Ummm…Drew, just a word of advice. Publishing a book which will be full of shit and trashing two of the mothers of your children won’t help them any!

    We should all write to Phoenix books and tell them how disgusting they are to even think of doing a book deal with the double-murderer.

    I had a good giggle at the ‘real lawyer’question Joe Hosey asked. Would have loved to have seen the look on boobsky’s face.

  167. The “real lawyer” comment was my laugh for the day. I mean, we’ve been wondering the same thing…and he got to ask it.

    Remember, the book deal is just a rumor. Let’s not torture some poor publishing house (Hosey’s publisher, BTW) without grounds. 🙂

  168. I apologise if this has been posted before; this is the first time I have come across it…it’s an open letter from the editor-in-chief of the Chicagoist to Chrissy. It’s a few months old, but the advice bears repeating:

    “GET THE HELL OUT. NOW. Have you seen what happens to women who marry this guy? He’s already divorced two, one’s been missing for over a year, and one ended up dead. By a homicide. At the very least you’ll wind up divorcing this guy and believe me when I say the “Peterson Taint” does not wash off. Do you really think this is going to turn out any different than the first four wives? If you go on statistics, there’s a 100 percent chance it will end and only a 50 percent chance you’ll come out of this relationship alive.

    REALIZE YOU’VE BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF. When it all falls apart (again, assuming you survive), you’re going to appear on one of the morning shows. Or, God forbid, Oprah. You’re gonna cry and mascara is going to run down your face and you’re going to plead, “I loved him” and then go on about how he broke your trust. You will receive no sympathy from me. You know what you’re getting into, Christina. And you know why you’re getting into it. So don’t cry when it all falls apart.”

    I wonder if she even read it??

  169. I had a good giggle at the ‘real lawyer’question Joe Hosey asked. Would have loved to have seen the look on boobsky’s face.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes that was a good one and it would have really hurt Joel, considering how sensitive he is about his abilities as a numero uno attorney, the one “driving the bus” – LOL !!

  170. Chrissy Raines is an insignificant participant in this sordid affair. She’s a crude, obnoxious weirdo. As a young, single mother, she should be concerned about providing her children with a stable, loving environment. Allowing herself to discover a caring, loving, stable companion, and go on to have a long-term relationship. She’s not. She’s chosen to co-habitate with a charged murderer. Schmooze for the cameras when it suits her, and telling them to “f” off when it doesn’t. So, what do we care what she does? She’ll drop off the radar as her sugar daddy goes through the court system. She’s been extended concern and offered help from legal analyst Lisa Bloom, tv psychologist Dr. Phil, right on down to her own family.

    So now, let her figure it out.

  171. I agree rescue. I think she thinks she’s going to become rich and famous from this. As I posted earlier, Scott Peterson’s girlfriend wrote a book about their relationship after he was convicted, and to tell you the truth, I couldn’t remember her name now if you paid me.

    Chrissy will also be forgotten after her 15 minutes is over.

    I’m glad I had a normal mum. More than I can say for her poor babies.

  172. Chrissie is not too bright and that is the one Drew hones in on as in his present state (disgraced cop-double murder suspect) he cannot possily get a decent women.

    With all his previous women and conquests he still had the benefit of going under the guise of a respected Police Officer, which would have made a big difference as that is an inherent position of TRUST !

    These women did not know who they were dealing with until it was too late !!

    Christina on the other hand has all the benefits of hindsight and still puts her trust so blindly and undeservedly in his hands, which is pretty much the equivalent of a disaster waiting for a place to happen !!

  173. Maybe I should have said Chrissie is attractive and not too bright, as attractive would have been as much a pre requisite for Drew than not too bright as if Christina were ugly and not too bright he wouldn’t have given her a second glance !

  174. Hi Facsmiley…

    I started a blog on WordPress. I will be covering a lot of trials.

    I posted about Justice Cafe, both on my site and on my wordpress blog site, in my blog about my experience on the Help Find Stacy Peterson site.

    http://jurorthirteen.wordpress.com/

    I also put you under Blogs of notes at both places. I’m glad you’ve given people a place to continue to give their opinions about this case 🙂

    Cloey (aka Friend on the HFSP site)

  175. Good morning, everyone 🙂

    The reason Christina is so stuck to Drew NOW must be more serious than only the money issue, his ‘great personality’ and willing to get Mrs Peterson, IMO. Now we can see her in different light: not a shy and loving girl seduced by Drew, but also as an agressive woman who cannot behave herself. I think she has a lot to do with Stacy disappearance.
    She is a liar, not only to us but also her father. Her moving out was arranged only because of (for the first time) GJ questioning her on the following day and (for the second time) that her living there spoiled Drew’s image. The pattern of Drew is to immediately replace one woman for another one and it is always a woman who is devoted to him very much, easily manipulated and looking for love.

    “None of your f*$%@*in’ business.” ???
    IT IS OUR BUSINESS!

    I believe Christina is under a scrutiny of ISP and would not wonder if she was arrested soon as well.

  176. Good morning!!!

    LOL, ROFL….The Real Lawyer question. lol. High five, Joe!!

    I predict that Joel will be mounting a challenge to the constitutionality of having to qualify to try murder. ;-).

  177. I’m loving the “Real Lawyer” question, too! I’ve got a great mental picture of a split screen of their conversation – Joel slamming down the phone and fuming (perhaps even picking his nose, as he does) and Joe LHAO! Thanks, Mr. Hosey!!

  178. Somebody’s taken Drew’s arrest very hard indeed. Nurse Pauline’s latest offering is the ugliest, angriest, most erroneous yet. No link ;-), just sayin’.

  179. Good morning, everyone.

    Here’s a link to Joe Hosey’s latest story. I think Ernie Raines needs to shut-up. The whining he does is old. Drew lied to his daughter. Drew doesn’t spend his money on his daughter. Drew baited his daughter with money. She has grown “angry” at him for speaking out against Peterson. He does it to “defend” her to the world that “it’s not you, it’s him.”

    As though we care. Where do all of these dysfunctional people crawl out of? Someone patch the hole up fast.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/genevasun/news/1569552,Drew-Peterson-bail-fiance-dad-JO051209.article

  180. Someone else mentioned the fact that they think Crissy has more to do with Stacy missing. Which lead me to thinking, maybe thats part of the break up/make up, move in/move out/back in. Who is going to go through her things to make sure what she is taking out of that house is actually hers. You just don’t know what kind of things (or whose things)could be in those boxes. Just wondering how much of stupid is an act.

  181. It was curious to see LE execute a search warrant and carry out boxes and boxes of things from Peterson’s home at the time of his arrest. Isn’t that usually done to find something of particular to link a suspect to a particular crime?

  182. MancowMullerComing up next, I will ask #Joel Brodsky if he would still represent #Drew Peterson if he knew he was guilty! You don’t want to miss this!13 minutes ago from web

  183. Doesn’t this have to do with ethics? Might be a short answer. What ramifications would there be if Joel knew Drew was guilty and perjured himself on the stand.

    These are thoughts in my head, not anything to do with Mancow.

  184. Charmed, if you consider that the only other person on Drew’s visitors list is Steve Carcerano, maybe that’s an indication Chrissy is and has been involved in things more than they’ve ever let on.

  185. Rescue, yes. It reminded me of after Caylee Anthony’s remains were found and there was another search of the Anthony home for specific items.

  186. Craig Wall is on Mancow. They also said Brodsky is out in the hallway stalking them. I think Chrissy’s ex-boyfriend, Mike, is going to be on as well.

  187. Ack, Craig Wall says that a source told him last night that Drew had promised Chrissy…..a boob job.

    Nothing says ‘I love you’ like a glock and a boob job.

  188. Joel is waving eagerly from the hallway. He just showed up at the studio unexpectedly instead of calling in.

  189. With so few people on Drew’s visit list, where are those people who have supported Drew from the beginning but that the media chose to ignore?

  190. Decaf – I went to Nurse Pauline’s site and posted the following response to his/her latest blog (which I bet will not be approved):

    ***

    Do you really think you know exactly what evidence that the prosecutors have? In reality Drew’s team will not know about the evidence against him until the court proceedings start.

    I do hope that he is only found guilty if he is actually guilty. I do hope that this case involves forensic evidence that we just arent’ aware of yet. I am someone that knows that sometimes our guts are wrong. However, Drew’s actions that first night Stacy went missing, his actions ever since, and his lack of care or concern for these two women really make him appear guilty to the public.

    You are correct. There are absolutely many divorces that include accusations of abuse, drug use, etc. Heck – even Joel Brodsky had used that tactic in his own divorce proceedings with his first wife. How do we know it was real or made up when none of us lived with them? The prosecutors will put on the families and friends who witnessed altercations between the two. Drew will have a chance to call some friends to the stand as character witnesses for him. The jury will have to decide who they find more credible.

    It seems to me that is is possible that the police and investigators did forget about the cause of death of Kathleen Savio – however, I think that actually happened back when she died. They didn’t follow procedures that they absolutely should have knowing that Drew was in a contentious divorce with her and they had been called at least 18 times to the home with so many different allegations.

    The thing some people seem to ignore is that the initial autopsy did show all of the bruises on it so it isn’t like the new autopsies show anything different. The argument is that the coroner’s jury didn’t get all of the information they should have to come to the conclusion that her death was murder.

    It is getting really old though hearing some people try to make Drew out to be the victim. He’s the one throwing all of the crap into the media pot with his and his attorney’s antics. He thought he was such a celebrity that out of the gate he autographed that cap that he gave to Paula when he went on his first national TV interview that he allegedly set up himself rather than the media coming to him. He’s tugging on his ear to show love for his online girlfriend (unknown to him actually boyfriend) while answering a question about how his little daughter is affected not having her mom in her life. His lawyer is out there using interviews with Drew to advertise his new wife’s business. It is all just crazy.

    Do you really think Drew is outraged he is considered a suspect when as a police officer he admits he would have also automatically suspected the husband if he was investigating this case? He is enjoying every single moment in the spotlight and when the light starts dimming he does something else to turn it back on even though it makes it harder on his kids.

    Please name the many people you speak of that act the same way Drew does. Heck – name 3.

    BTW – Why do you have to personally attack people?? It is one thing to say you disagree with them but calling them fat and repluslive?? Don’t you have a better argument than that? Don’t you think any of Drew’s actions have been repulsive??

  191. At Mancow, they’ve got Louis Black coming up? I’d really rather hear him than Joel. Don’t let Joel in!

  192. Tomorrow is GJ day in the Peterson saga. They’ve indicted Peterson now for one murder. Let’s hope and assume that there are some important witnesses about to appear before the GJ, and the GJ’s work is about to conclude.

    At the top of this blog is a banner. Meshed in that banner is a howling cadaver dog. That is the most powerful reminder, to me, that something evil happened in that house. There was a man in particular that was in that house with Stacy at the time she ceased contact with the outside world, and it is that man that appears to be the one that was in control of her fate.

    I assume law enforcement and the State’s Attorney have carefully constructed their case against Peterson. Now, it’s up to one side or the other to present that case in a dignified, believable, undisputed manner. Convince the jury that their presentation of the “facts” is the right way.

    As I see it, Brodsky and his defense team aren’t the ones that are living up to that.

  193. It would crack me up if they didn’t let him in. Mancow just said that Tony called in and he is living with Chrissy now. Tony?? Isn’t that her ex who she had the order of protection on?? I thought someone else said she and her kids were living with her sister. Poor kids getting dragged from place to place…

  194. Isn’t this all pathetic that the news of the day is now Chrissy Raines and her irresponsible attitude? Isn’t this just more of the same old crap? As if she lends anything significant to this murderer’s life other than being his house whore.

  195. Mancow asked Joel. “If you had evidence that he killed either of these women, would you still represent him?”

    Joel said, “That’s an unfair question”

    Don’t most defenders bail if they are aware of evidence that their client is guilty? I thought they worked on a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy.

  196. Thank goodness. We’ve all been educated! Even though the boob team is whining about the media, at least we got it straight from the horse’s mouth: they merely went around doing the media circuit because they were “invited” on.

    Phew. That’s why they did it. Now we can rest.

  197. LOL, Someone posted this on another forum. She called it Drew’s Character Witness List:

    CARCERANO MARGHERIT 7 30 9 900 09SC003353 Alias Summons
    CARCERANO MARK A 6 3 9 305 900 08TR121301 5613120 DRIVING ON REVOKED 1 Status
    CARCERANO STEVEN 5 19 9 900 09SC000500 Return Date

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 5 19 9 WCCA 130 08CH003585 Motions
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 6 3 9 900 04F 000340 Payment
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 7 1 9 301 900 04F 000340 Warrant
    ROBINSON PAUL J 7 30 9 305 900 07DT002024 2319322 DRVG UNDER INFLU OF 1 Status

  198. Why doesn’t someone ask Brodsky why he continues to go on show after show and profess there’s no evidence linking his client to Kathleen’s murder, when, in fact, he has no idea what the State’s evidence is?

    Isn’t that a little premature to make such bold statements, instead of saying they’re going to review the State’s evidence, evaluate it, and present their case in a straight-forward manner that will give the jurors reasonable doubt?

    Isn’t it also a lawyer’s “job” to come across as credible and with a positive image so as to help bolster his client’s deficiencies?

    Not happenin’ here!

  199. Mancow just called Brodsky a hypocrite along with a big list of others stating something to the effect of Brodsky complaining about media attention when he’s the one seeking it.

  200. Let’s hope Grand Jury indicts tomorrow on Stacy’s case. There is no bail for serial killers!!! Keep him in jail.

  201. I missed hearing Joe Hosey on Justice Interrupted last night but am listening now. http://tobtr.com/s/494785 (I hope that works).

    Off topic, I know, but Susan asked that we try to get the word out on the 2007 murder of Brittany Danielle McGlone. I Tweeted, I posted. Spread the word if you can.

    Admin, I’ll understand if you have to delete the off-topic-ness of this post.

  202. That’s OK Noway. On this blog we devote ourselves to just these two cases, but there are so many out there that deserve just as much attention.

    In the McGlone case they have a body and a suspect with a record a similar attack and yet no charges after two years.

    There are families everywhere who go through the same pain as the Cales and the Savios on a daily basis – maybe not always with as arrogant and infuriating of a suspect but…

  203. facsmiley Says:
    May 13, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Mancow asked Joel. “If you had evidence that he killed either of these women, would you still represent him?”

    Joel said, “That’s an unfair question”

    Don’t most defenders bail if they are aware of evidence that their client is guilty? I thought they worked on a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy.

    I understand why Joel didn’t spout the “he passed the polygraph related to Kathleen Savio’s case with flying colors” because then he’d have to mention how he’d done on the poly for Stacy’s case. Not so much flying colors.

    And then someone might bring up his previous stance on polygraphs, and it would all just get messy.

    LOL Maybe that’s why it was an unfair question.

    And Facs, thanks for letting that post slide. I wish I could go back to my sky-is-always-blue world where I didn’t know there were so many families going through this pain.

  204. According to Glasgow at his press conference on 5/7, he states the GJ for Stacy Peterson meets every Wednesday.

  205. In that video about her going to visit Drew, Chrissy looks really thin. I noticed that also in the video of her loading her car. Does anyone else think she resembles Stacy?

  206. Mom2babies, I thought the same thing, especially the picture of Stacy at the top of this site and that picture of Chrissy loading her car.

  207. The GJ thing is true – they’ve been meeting for a long time in the inquest room of the Will co. Coroner’s Ofc.

  208. Hey Longshot, I think the issue here is whether the GJ meets Thursdays or Wednsdays. We’ve always heard Thursdays, but 10/11 pointed out that Glasgow said Wednesdays. Not sure if he mispoke at his press conference or the day of the week has been changed…

  209. charm and mom, I also agree with you about Christina. I even had a strange feeling about this likeness because KS’s friend once said Stacy wanted to be like Kathleen (studing nursering, for instance).

  210. I don’t think it’s so much what this house guest of his looks like, or who she resembles, IMHO. It’s the realization that he started setting his hooks in her at the tender age of 15. Stacy was 17. He finds a way to manipulate young, weak, vulnerable, troubled women. Then he mangles their self-confidence, and re-invents them into his perfect specimen.

    Of course, as long as he remains the center of their universe, he continues to use and abuse them. And moves on to yet another. Once they get smart, he erases them. Hopefully, he is someone that doesn’t come along too often in a lifetime. Darkness at it’s worst.

  211. I think that people are getting the special GJ (which met on Thursdays regarding Stacy, Kathleen, and Lisa) and the regular GJ (which meets on Wednesdays). They said that at the end of the special GJ session they may have the regular Wednesday GJ take over the cases that were being handled by the special GJ.

    The indictment came just two weeks before the end of a special grand jury investigating both cases. The grand jurors have been hearing evidence in the case for nearly 18 months, the maximum time allowed for a grand jury. Glasgow said prosecutors plan to present additional evidence regarding the Stacy Peterson case in the last two grand jury meetings.

    A regular grand jury that meets every Wednesday may be asked to investigate the case once the 18-month time limit is up.

    “That (investigation) is not going to be slowed in any way shape or form by this indictment,” Glasgow said. “That investigation is still foremost on our minds and we believe we have some significant things to follow up on.”

    State police officers were in the area of Peterson’s Bolingbrook home for most of Thursday awaiting word of a possible indictment, Illinois State Police Capt. Carl Dobrich said.

    “We were hoping that once we had the warrant in hand that he would be out and about,” Dobrich said.

    By about 5:30 p.m. police had all three wishes. The grand jury had indicted, a judge had issued a warrant for Peterson’s arrest and the former police officer left alone from his home at 6 Pheasant Chase Court. He made it less than six blocks before being stopped at the intersection of Lily Cache Lane and South Weber Road.

    Source: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/batavia/homepage/x1393566941/Drew-Peterson-in-custody

  212. I wonder..If they do indict for SP by the end of next week and they decide to go for one trial anyone have a guesstimate at how long were looking at before said trial will begin ??

  213. It is going to be a long, long time. There is no way that Drew would benefit from his team requesting a speedy trial.

    It is a little less time if he is unable to make bond. They give the people that are sitting in jail awaiting trial priority over those with money that are walking the street.

  214. My source says “Generally the Special GJ meets on Thursdays, but the last 4 weeks they’ve met in the State’s Attorney’s Office instead of the Coroner’s Office, so who knows when they met – I wonder if Glasgow even knows.”

    And the above person who noted that there is a regular GJ that meets on Wednesdays (as opposed to this Special GJ that met on Thursdays) is correct.

  215. John Robinson, the notorious serial killer from Kansas, trolled homeless shelters looking for his prey:troubled, dependent and desperate women. As
    rescueapet stated Drew wants women dependent upon him whom he can easily manipulate and has a fetish for teen girls. I have to ask myself how long he has really known Chrissy ? Is it possible he was involved with her while married to Stacy ? How many others have there been ? And yet as a cop, he served and protected…his crotch ! Was all of this OK with his boss and the mayor, both of whon knew his little peccidillos. How much confiscated drugs were distributed to his little teenybopper girlfriends around town ?

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