Drew Peterson pleads not guilty to murder


Former police officer Drew Peterson pleaded not guilty at his arraignment Monday on first-degree murder charges in the 2004 slaying of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

9:47: The prosecution has asked for Judge Richard Schoenstedt be removed from Peterson’s case.

10:01 According to MSNBC Brodsky is challenging the move to change judges, and Will County Chief Judge Gerald Kinney is slated to hold a hearing on the issue Thursday.

10:03: The request sent the hearing into a recess, and it is going to be continued until Thursday.

10:14: Press Conference: Brodsky says Drew is going to get a vigorous and zealous defense.

Now that the charges have been brought, it will limit what they can say. They’ll try to be as open as possible.

Calling the proceedings gamesmanship and says the State doesn’t want to try this case on the merits. Says they want to try it on technicalities.

Says it shows the State’s weakness.

10:15: Abood says the motions says prosecution believes the judge is “prejudiced against the state.”

10:16: Reporter: Savio’s familoy says that Drew was smirking and waving at them today. Abood says he was with Drew and didn’t see it.

10:17 Reporter asks Joel about being paid for interviews. He skirts it by saying “News agencies don’t pay for interviews”.

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165 thoughts on “Drew Peterson pleads not guilty to murder

  1. From WBBM radio

    Prosecutors filed a motion at the hearing asking for a new judge. State’s Attorney James Glascow didn’t give a reason, and court recessed while another judge was called to handle rest of the hearing.
    Brodsky says he’ll ask the judge to lower Peterson’s bail from $20 million – to somewhere between $100,000 and $500,000, and Peterson would have to come up with 10 percent of that.

  2. Fox News Chicago is reporting that a new judge was called in to handle the remainder of the case. I don’t know if that’s the remainder of today’s proceedings or not. Just saying that’s the way it was reported by Jan Jeffcoat.

  3. Interesting that the prosecution asked that the judge be removed. And so now we wait until Thursday to know whether DP’s bail is reduced.

  4. I wonder if maybe Glasgow was given advanced warning that Schoenstedt was possibly going to reduce the bond. Maybe there were some back office rumblings that Glasgow heard about. Or maybe Glasgow is just concerned about past rulings that Schoenstedt has made in this case–namely, the cars being released so quickly, etc.

    Seems strange that no reason was given for the request.

  5. I wonder…How the two time murderer is taking yet
    another DELAY that causes him to be locked up the way he deserves to be ?? LMAO

    OH what a WONDERFUL day !! 😉

  6. They are saying on the radio that Drew has to stay in jail until at least Thursday. Not sure of full story.

  7. They just said it was due to the prosecutors asking for a new judge and Brodsky objecting so they are awaiting a decision on that first.

    They also said the bond wasn’t dropped yet.

  8. Usually if there is a perceived conflict, one side or the other will ask that the judge recuse him/herself. I don’t see that this was requested, but, rather it was a straight forward request for the judge to be removed.

    In my opinion, this IS unusual. Maybe Schoenstedt was overheard commenting about the case and it got back to the prosecution.

  9. It is also very interesting that Brodsky is objecting to the removal of Schoenstedt. Brodsky must feel that Schoenstedt would lean more towards the defense side and now [Brodsky] doesn’t want to lose that possibility.

  10. Schoenstedt I believe is the same judge who gave Drew back his guns. The prosecution might interpret his judgments as lenient.

  11. Joel: News conference with Selig

    Selig is spelling every one’s name. 😉
    John Carroll is part of the legal team
    Glenn Selig just introduced himself.

    Brodsky says Drew is going to get a vigorous and zealous defense.

    Now that the charges have been brought, it will limit what they can say. They’ll try to be as open as possible.

    Calling the proceedings gamesmanship and says the State doesn’t want to try this case on the merits. Says they want to try it on technicalities.

    Says it shows the State’s weakness.

    State is saying the Judge is prejudice against the State (says Joel).

    He’s slamming the State of doing this, against the Chief Judge in the Criminal Division.

    Abood is commenting on the gun case, and is making insinuations that is why the prosecution is against the Judge. Saying that case was in the middle of the road, and he is saying the State thinks he’s “defense minded.”

    continued

  12. Brodsky said Peterson is doing fine (in jail).

    They’re repeating how he’s an educated client and he understands the proceedings. Peterson hopes that the case will proceed on the merits.

    Peterson was respectful in court and wasn’t cracking jokes. He was upbeat and confident.

    The defense was asked if there was a personal relationship with the Judge, and Brodsky said no. They are just reiterating that the prosecution thinks the current judge is prejudiced against the State. No reason given.

    They’re still trying to decide whether to do a jury trial or a judge trial.

  13. Brodsky doesn’t believe Peterson will be indicted for anything related to Stacy.

    Abood said you have to ask “them” questions about why they do what they do, referring to the State.

    Brodsky and Abood said don’t feel sorry for them, when it comes to getting paid. They’ll get paid.

  14. Well, Noway, I am sure the State would be prepared for just that question. I would think they can’t make statements like that without backing it up.

    You just can’t make this stuff up.

  15. It has been my opinion all along that this judge is bought and paid for and was placed specifically to handle this case. Early on the judge in this case was changed without explanation. Maybe that’s a common thing, but it sure seemed suspicious to me at the time.

  16. I’m sure they will provide an acceptable answer. I just had to laugh at Joel saying, “I’m going to make them tell us.” (paraphrased)

  17. I am anxiously awaiting for legal commentary why the State would ask that a judge be removed from a case.

    Getting past that, why would the State ask that this judge be removed from this case?

  18. Crikey what a lot to take in. Bratsky sounds cross! Gamesmanship? ROFL coming from him!

    Isn’t John Carrol who in another capacity wrote a criticism of the way the Savio estate had been handled? Have I remembered something that didn’t happen?lol

  19. The state is stalling. That is all this is. They want to stall till the GJ is finished on Thursday. They know they can get Drew no matter what judge they have hearing this case.

  20. I am happy about the decision of changing the judge.
    I do not like judge Schoenstedt and as you know I was very afraid of his decision. There were obvious leaks to Brodsky about the bond. The other thing was him dismissing the gun charges and the case when Schoenstedt HAD the option to leave all the guns seized during the seach warrant with the police, not to move them to Steven.
    Great move, Glasgow! Not only Brodsky&Co can make use of laws!

  21. Don’t know if this was already posted:

    http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1402&z=4

    The following is a list of Peterson’s legal team members, who will be at the news conference along with some brief biographical information on each one:

    Joel Brodsky of Brodsky & Odeh – Lead Defense Counsel:
    Joel A. Brodsky has more than 25 years of legal experience. He is admitted to practice in the State of Illinois, the Federal Courts for the Northern District of Illinois, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, and the United States Supreme Court. Mr. Brodsky is also a member of the Federal Trial Bar. He has been given a ‘Very High’ rating in the areas of reliability, diligence, ethics, conduct, and other areas relating to professional responsibility by the nationally recognized Martindale-Hubble lawyers rating service.

    Reem Odeh of Brodsky & Odeh:
    Reem Odeh is a graduate of Chicago’s John Marshall Law School, where she was awarded a Juris Doctor degree in 2003. She also holds a B.A. in psychology and mass communications from St. Xavier University. She served as an intern on the murder task force of the Cook County Public Defender’s Office in 2002. Odeh is fluent in spoken and written Arabic and is a member of the Arab-American Bar Association, American Bar Association, Illinois State Bar Association and the Chicago Bar Association. Odeh’s family has roots in Elbireh, Palestine.

    Andrew Abood of the Abood Law Firm:
    Andrew Abood is a graduate of Michigan State University and the Thomas M. Cooley Law School. He has been a law clerk to the Honorable Michael F. Cavanaugh of the Michigan Supreme Court.

    Also part of the legal team but not present in Joliet today is John Paul Carroll of the John Paul Carroll Law Firm:

    John Paul Carroll received his Juris Doctor degree from the John Marshall Law School in Chicago while working as a detective in the Chicago Police Department in the elite homicide/sex crimes unit. He has also worked in the Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney’s Office. Carroll holds a private detective license in Illinois (#115-000883) and is a member of the Bar in Illinois and Connecticut. He has both U.S. and Irish citizenship, and is conversant in Spanish.

  22. Snyder said “The state is stalling. That is all this is. They want to stall till the GJ is finished on Thursday. They know they can get Drew no matter what judge they have hearing this case.”

    I like this theory!

  23. Very high ethics rating????? How does one get a very high rating after being reprimanded for signing a dead man’s name to a legal document and having the SWAT team show up to take his rifle away????

  24. Did anyone catch what the reporter said Drew did in the courtroom?

    Brodsky said (paraphrased) I was with Drew practically the whole time and I never saw that. Today? In the courtroom? to which the reporter answered Yes.

  25. Brodsky called today’s events “gamesmanship” on the part of the prosecution. That seems to me to appear as though he understands what the prosecution is doing here. Obviously, it’s delayed the proceedings for three more days, and the defense seems to be stamping their feet and demanding an out-and-out reason for these tactics. Makes me wonder if more charges will be coming and it will all happen this week. That seems the logical explanation for the “gamesmanship.”

  26. I didn’t post it but Joel also said again that he doesn’t think there will ever be an indictment for Stacy.

    What’s the point of that? Why not just say you don’t know if there will or won’t. This way he’ll just look stupid when it comes.

  27. I think their main beef with this judge was him requiring the prosecutors to turn over all of the police and investigator’s work product rather than only specific documents which would have given the defense information about the cases they were building against Drew related to Stacy and Kathleen.

    It seems that this request has possibly served multiple purposes. They could have requested this at the last hearing (the one Joel missed) but they waited and were victorious in holding Drew until the GJ day.

    Joel shouldn’t have missed that first hearing. He hasn’t shown any great new information that would have taken 10 days of his client’s life. Had he done it then – the judge issue may have been resolved by now.

    My prediction is that if Drew is convicted he’s going to appeal on ineffective counsel. These guys are more interested in promoting themselves (laughing about how they’ll get paid and not to worry about them — likely due to all of the money they will all make on future book deals and interviews) than they are representing and giving sound advice to their client.

  28. I remember reading, someplace, that Brodskys father or uncle is a judge in cook county. Maybe the state found out that they know each other,as friends or other info.
    JB sure didn’t look happy. He needs some chicken wings, quick.

  29. http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1579183,w-ex-cop-peterson-arraignment-051809.article

    Drew Peterson pleads ‘not guilty’
    Prosecutors are seeking a new judge
    Comments

    May 18, 2009

    BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter

    Ex-Bolingbrook police sergeant Drew Peterson formally pleaded “not guilty” this morning to murder charges in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

    “We”ll enter a plea of not guilty to both counts,” attorney Joel Brodsky said in court as Peterson stood next to him, dressed in blue jail fatigues.

    The 55-year-old Peterson was charged last week with two counts of first-degree murder in Savio’s bathtub-drowning death.

    Will County prosecutors then immediately sought to replace Judge Richard Schoenstedt. They didn’t offer an explanation.

    Defense attorneys objected, and the issue was deferred until Thursday.

    Before today’s court hearing, Brodsky told reporters he would seek to reduce Peterson’s $20 million bail. But that issue was not immmediately addressed.

    Brodsky made the rounds of the major TV networks’ morning news shows this morning, telling NBC’s “Today” show, “Drew has provven he is not a flight risk or danger to the community.

    Brodsky also appeared on ABC’s “Good Morning America” and CBS’ “The Early Show,” on which he said his biggest challenge will be finding an impartial jury.

  30. TAI, I’m sure they are still smarting from that discovery issue. It put them in the position of having to refuse to comply.

    If I were the prosecution, I might just think it was time for a fresh judge, regardless of past rulings.

  31. I imagine this is irritating Brodsky. Things are not going as he thinks they will be. His client did not stay in jail “one more business day,” he did not get his client’s bond reduced and his client out of jail, and now, there is the issue of a new judge.

    😀 @ Grandam and chicken wings

  32. He’s on Mancow right now saying that Drew is OK and not upset and they are blessed to have a client like Drew who understands how the process works. He said he wants to do things the right way and not just the fast way.

  33. I wonder (excuse me, ww)if JB was planning on a Judge Trial before someone who’d already ruled favorably to the multiple-murderer? Might account for some of his inappropriate-to-his-experience confidence.

  34. Apropos of the reporter’s question about payment for interviews. I came upon this twitter. I’ll see if I can find some verification:

    geobliss: Matt Lauer paid Brodsky 6 figures to get the jail house Interview.
    19 minutes ago from web

    That is from George Bliss’ twitter feed.
    (George Bliss WJJG Radio and WIND AM 560 Radio.)

  35. OMG, they are “blessed” to have a client like Drew?

    A client who stands charged with two counts of murder is blessed?

    Help us all.

  36. Even if that is true about the 6 figures, Joel will simply say that Matt Lauer/Today Show is not a news agency, it’s a morning show (or some other goobly gook).

  37. Noway, I think that was Joel’s point this morning when he skirted the issue. Joel was trying to be cute and infer that he was never paid by saying that news agencies don’t pay for interviews. He didn’t want to answer her real question.

  38. LOL

    Maybe the longer Drew stays in jail, the more interviews he can do and the more Brodsky and Abood are getting paid. That’s why the giggles and the “don’t worry about us.”

    Since that is the only way Drew can pay his lawyers, he’s “working” for the first time in months.

  39. I’m just glad to hear that DP was in a somber mood, no antics, no jovial quips, at least we now know he is NOT under stress. Because as it has been stated, that is how DP behaves when he is stressed.

  40. Also, I added a youtube video of some Savio family members responding to today’s proceedings to the main post. Henry Savio (father), Nick Savio (brother) and Michael Lisak (nephew).
    (scroll up)

  41. Channel 9 legal analyst, Terry Sullivan, said that it is not unusual at all for a change in judge request, however, it’s usually the defense. He said, contrary to Brodsky’s contention that this is an indication of the weak case the State has, he said that’s not obvious at all. He pretty much indicated that you can read into it anything you want. He was expecting, in fact, to get a little more insight into the State’s case today to bolster their reason for wanting the bond held at such a high amount. Atty Sullivan also indicated that the State might have been “offended,” rightly so, that this particular judge dismissed prior charges against Peterson because of the discovery issue relating to the gun case, and may feel that he may have ruled against them by not allowing in hearsay evidence.

    Also, the reporter for Channel 9 did his coverage in this newscast, and said he was sitting right next to the Savios. He said he did not see anything in the way of waving from Peterson, but he did say that Peterson did make repeated eye contact with them, even by veering his head around something that was blocking them from his view.

  42. “He said he did not see anything in the way of waving from Peterson, but he did say that Peterson did make repeated eye contact with them, even by veering his head around something that was blocking them from his view.”

    I wish I could have seen that. The Savios called it a smirk. What would Drew say he meant?

    Didn’t Drew say that a simple “chin’s up” to Len Wawczak’s son is what prompted the shoving and shouting in the barber shop parking lot? Len’s kid called it a “dirty look”.

    Seems to be a disconnect between what Drew thinks he’s sending and what is coming out. Or is there?

  43. Someone pointed this out on another forum and I didn’t see it discussed here yet so I thought I’d bring it over.

    For an exclusive interview with Rev. Schori pick up the latest ENQUIRER – still on sale.

    Source: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/missing_wife_stacy_peterson_confession_to_minister_nails_drew_peterson/celebrity/66696

    Why would Pastor Schori do this? I’m sorry but any key witnesses that have sold their story have deflated the value of their testimony which could have serious consequences on the case(s). It is sad for me to hear this news.

    Did anyone see or read this story? Can anyone lend any insight into what he said?

  44. I haven’t seen it, but I doubt very much he gave them an interview of any kind. He twittered last week or so that Nat Enq stalked him at church.

  45. well did the Pastor do this??? my understanding is he’s a PASTOR not a Reverend…that his “title” is Pastor…they indicate in the article it’s “Reverend” and “according to a source” Nothing in that article is new news than what we’ve already heard from him except..it states that Stacy found him in the basement with BLOODSTAINED woman’s clothing, that’s the first time I’ve heard that the clothes had blood on them…I agree if he did do this it’s not good, it’s not going to help his credibility [Mod edit]

    regarding the delay to Thursday..brilliant move on the prosecutions part..Thurs is Grand Jury Day and also..with the delay they don’t have to give the defense any discovery on Kathleen..of course there would be discovery for her that would be connected to Stacy, why give the defense the heads up before the indictment is handed down for Stacy? They can have their discovery after that indictment and after his bond is revoked! he he he!

  46. An “exclusive interview” with Pastor Schori might only be the National Enquirer reprinting On the Record’s interview with him.

    “For an exclusive interview with Rev. Schori pick up the latest ENQUIRER – still on sale.”

    I could be wrong, but this does not say “For OUR exclusive interview…….”

    It says for “an exclusive interview….”

  47. neilschoriStill shocked that national enquirer was at church today. I can just see it now: “martians at naperville christian church”5:39 PM May 10th from txt

    That doesn’t sound like he actually gave an interview. More like The Enquirer used old stuff from other sources. IMO

  48. Well the May 18th National Enquirer doesn’t have anything regarding Schori in it (that I could find while taking a trip to Walgreen’s to pick up some allergy medicine) so I’m guessing it may have been last week’s paper.

  49. Yes, I strongly doubt that he “granted an interview” for them any more than he did for Derek Armstrong.

    This is what he twittered about them:

    Still shocked that national enquirer was at church today. I can just see it now: “martians at naperville christian church”

    6:39 PM May 10th from txt

  50. CONFESSION TO MINISTER NAILS SUSPECT DREW PETERSON

    After years of being under investigation, accused wife-killer Drew Peterson was suddenly arrested on May 7 – yet no one knows what led authorities to finally swoop in and take the former police sergeant into custody…until now.

    The ENQUIRER has uncovered the shocking evidence that may convict Peterson of the brutal murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio: a bone-chilling confession to a minister.

    Before her disappearance in October 2007, Drew Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy, told her pastor, Neil Schori, that she KNEW her husband had killed Kathleen – and prosecutors are now planning to use the preacher’s testimony as the linchpin in the case against Peterson…

    etc.

    I don’t see a single quote from Schori in the article.

  51. With all due respect, Gate, this whole case is speculation on all of our parts right now – isn’t it?? We dont’ have the facts to be credible. Sometimes we put stuff out there to get someone who may know the facts to come forward and clear our confusion. I thought these forums are about discussing the case and trying to sort out fact from fiction.

    I see what you are saying about any of us creating a rumor and stating it as fact – but what is wrong with trying to clear up a rumor?? What are we doing wrong? What comment are you referring to that isn’t meeting Rule #6? I’m confused.

  52. Facs – No they put a teaser at the very end which basically says you have to buy the paper to see his interview.

    For an exclusive interview with Rev. Schori pick up the latest ENQUIRER – still on sale.

    I’ve tweeted Pastor Schori asking him if he gave them an interview. I’ll let you know what I hear back – if anything.

  53. TAI, keep trying to clear up the rumor. You’re doing fine. Our reminder wasn’t addressed to you.

    The speculation in the case has been moderated.

  54. Oh no, I tweeted him as well and invited him to comment here if he wants. I hope the poor man is not being inundated.

  55. LOL. He’s getting tweeted in stereo. Sometimes he comes on here as well so maybe he’ll do that to help clear up the confusion and settle it once and settle this rumor once and for all.

  56. Facs,

    Thanks for the “heads-up” about the chatter on here about me. David Wright from the National Enquirer called my church multiple times and I did not call him back. He then informed the church that he would be at one of the services on Sunday (Mother’s Day).

    I spoke with him for about 90 seconds and I told him that I was rejoicing with the Savio family for Drew’s arrest. I told him nothing at all about the case.

    Neil

  57. Thanks, Neil.

    We appreciate you taking the time to come here and comment. The Nat’l Enquirer isn’t exactly the most credible rag on the stands. 🙂

  58. thank you for clearing that up Pastor Schori!!!!

    now we don’t have to “speculate” and cause a ruckus!

  59. Oke hmmmmm

    Interesting move by the Prosecution (!!!)

    I can’t get Drews statement to Christina out of my head that if ever arrested he is going to jail for a “couple of days and will be bailed out”.

    I can’t make up my mind if that was just a typical arrogant Drew statement or if there is more to it than meets the eye !!

  60. I appreciate the direct response. I no longer feel the need to track down last week’s NE to see the story with my own two eyes.

    I’m so glad that is all it was. I apologize for even thinking it was possible. This case has had more twists, turns, and kinks than any other I’ve seen so it has turned me a bit more pessimistic on human nature and the ability of the media to entice people to do what I think they know they should not.

  61. BTW – What was Joel Brodsky’s Secret Defense Strategy for letting his client sit in jail for a week ??

    Or was it so secret we missed it ??

  62. I’ll just wait for Neil Schori’s interview during the trial. That’s when we’ll get the facts. 😀

  63. Channel 7 (local abc news) had a short piece about today’s proceedings. The interesting part of it was that they quoted Katherine Zellner, the attorney who represented Kevin Fox in his high profile case, as saying it is unlikely any judge will lower Peterson’s bond.

    So, there are legal commentators saying the bond should or would be reduced and some who say no.

  64. I bet Ernie Raines is relieved his possible-future-son-in-law-to-be isn’t going anywhere – LOL !

  65. A story with the same news but a few new quotes:

    http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=10382567

    “I think they just wanted to get an unbiased judge because the connection the other judge had with the weapons charge,” Savio’s nephew Michael Lisak said.

    “The smug smirk is gone,” Savio’s niece Melissa Doman said.

    Savio’s family was in the courtroom Monday, and will be back when a judge considers lowering Peterson’s bond.

    “I don’t think he should be able to get out of jail,” Savio’s brother Nick Savio said. “He should sit there.”

  66. After thinking about this morning’s surprise, it does come to mind that they sure took the sizzle and fizzle out of Brodsky & Company’s thunder. They were all prepared, all set up, to do their news conferences to “gloat,” I would think, about the bond reduction they were expecting. Instead, they were one-upped by the prosecution. Brodsky called it gamesmanship due to a weak case. “Gottcha.”

    Funny thing, it’s no less than what Brodsky has done. He’s supposedly a think-out-of-the-box kind of guy, such as chaining himself to a table in the courtroom, creating a lot of white noise, or even, in this case, saying that the State’s case was vindictive prosecution and using that tactic to try and get discovery. Failed there even though it got the case dismissed, but it gave the prosecution reason to be concerned about the judge’s ruling.

    Interesting. Who would’ve thought? Not the defense.

  67. Joe Hoey’s story also has a couple tidbits I hadn’t seen yet:

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/genevasun/news/1579500,Peterson-trial-judge-Joliet-JO051809.article

    “I think at this point I should step down and have another judge sit in my stead,” Schoenstedt said as he made way for Judge Gerald Kinney to preside over Peterson’s initial appearance with counsel.

    Kinney was in no hurry to get things under way, saying, “I haven’t done much of anything in this matter.”

    Still, the new Drew let his serious side slip long enough to “taunt” the relatives of his murdered wife, at least according to Savio’s nephew, Michael Lisak.

    “He was waving at my mom, just continuously looking at my family, the Savio family, almost in a mocking way,” Lisak said.

    Brodsky, who during the hearing was granted daily, face-to-face visits with Peterson in the jail, claimed to be unaware of this.

  68. Rescue, I get the feeling Drew was all ready to put on his civilian duds and go home today. Must have been a blow.

  69. Hmm, a certain P.I. just realized today that John Carroll is part of Drew’s defense team. He announced it like it’s news. Only 16 months behind…

  70. Maybe someday the National Enquirer will hire them. They are also out there spewing old news as new news.

  71. Hmmm. Now that Judge Schoenstedt has recused himself, and now that he may no longer be involved in this, does that mean the new Judge has to listen to hours and hours of recorded conversations to get up to speed?

    Rut roh.

  72. rescueapet Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 4:10 pm
    Channel 7 (local abc news) had a short piece about today’s proceedings. The interesting part of it was that they quoted Katherine Zellner, the attorney who represented Kevin Fox in his high profile case, as saying it is unlikely any judge will lower Peterson’s bond.

    So, there are legal commentators saying the bond should or would be reduced and some who say no.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That just goes to show there is no way of telling what a Judge is going to do (!!)

  73. That’s exactly it, JAH. There is no way to tell what a judge, or the judge, will do.

    Peterson’s bond fate rests in his decision, and his decision alone. Be it as it may.

  74. Just a hypothetical:

    If Drew were going to be charged with Stacys murder whilst still incarcerated does that automatically make the Bond issue irrelevant ??

  75. JAH ~ 😉

    Now that’s a thought that is on everyone’s mind. “If Drew were going to be charged with Stacy’s murder….

    what if?

  76. Another question:

    Who decides if a Judge should stay or go ?

    If Prosecution wants him to go and Brodsky wants him to stay, who makes that decision ?

    Where do they go for that process ??

  77. I believe the Chief Judge decides if he stays or goes. The Chief Judge reviews and rules on the Motion.

  78. rescueapet Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    I believe the Chief Judge decides if he stays or goes. The Chief Judge reviews and rules on the Motion.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oke thank you Rescue, now what about that Bond question ?

  79. BTW, I assume Brodsky can appeal the substitution of judge at the Appellate level.

    As to the Bond, I really don’t know. Bond revoked, maybe?

  80. JAH – I’d think the bond hearing would still proceed but if he is charged with Stacy’s murder then they will have less grounds for lowering that bond.

    There will be anoter bond set for any other charges that are filed. If they are more than the $20M it really does make this bond moot. He’d have to come up with the bond for all of the charges combined to get out.

    It may even be possible that the State can go back and request a higher bond or to revoke bond due to the new circumstances but I’m not certain.

  81. rescueapet Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    At Monday’s arraignment, Glasgow told Kinney that replacing Schoenstedt “is a significant issue in the case.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hmmmmm, I wonder where that is going !!

  82. It’s pretty clear to me (and this is of course just my opinion) that this particular judge is one of Drew’s mates that has helped cover up his evil deeds in the past.

    What sort of a tool is he to not only give him back his cars and the guns to Stephen, but also do the same in Craig Stebic’s situation?

    Very fishy here. Maybe he is simply a misogynist, therefore always surreptitiously takes the husband’s side.

  83. I just saw an interesting theory posted on another forum but I don’t know what show this was on. Did anyone see it?:

    Lisa Bloom explained that the defense likes Judge Richard Schoenstedt, the judge who thus far as handled every issue regarding Drew, because he’s ruled in favor of Drew.

    Apparently the arraignment was delayed until today because today was the earliest Schoenstedt could fit the arraignment on his calendar.

    The defense could have asked any other available judge to hear the arraignment within days of the arrest, but if they did that they risked the case getting assigned to whoever that other judge was and they preferred to have Schoenstedt hear the case.

  84. 1chordwonder Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 5:33 pm
    I didn’t realize that Schoenstedt is the same judge who ordered Craig Stebic’s 24 guns and truck to be returned to a friend of his. I guess if you want to murder your wife, this is the judge to have.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/print/?id=233002

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Good point and the same Grand Jury is also hearing evidence re Lisa Stebic (!!)

    hmmmm and hmmmm

  85. facsmiley Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    I just saw an interesting theory posted on another forum but I don’t know what show this was on. Did anyone see it?:

    Lisa Bloom explained that the defense likes Judge Richard Schoenstedt, the judge who thus far as handled every issue regarding Drew, because he’s ruled in favor of Drew.

    Apparently the arraignment was delayed until today because today was the earliest Schoenstedt could fit the arraignment on his calendar.

    The defense could have asked any other available judge to hear the arraignment within days of the arrest, but if they did that they risked the case getting assigned to whoever that other judge was and they preferred to have Schoenstedt hear the case.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oke that was obviously Joel Brodsky’s Secret Defense Strategy Plan !!

    Now things are starting to make sense –

    HOLY SMOKE !!

  86. In addition to Schoenstedt’s rulings on returning the cars, computers, etc., releasing the gun collection to son Steve — wasn’t he also the one who approved the special circumstance of Drew (while still on bail for the gun charges) taking the kids on vacation in Florida? IIRC, the kids didn’t get that vacation in Florida — instead he vacationed and partied with his pals Brodsky and Selig. I certainly could have missed it, but I don’t recall ever hearing that Schoenstedt voiced his dismay that Peterson had misled him in order to gain permission to leave the state.

  87. It also explains the overkill on calling such a big news conference and Brodsky’s over confidence re reducting of the Bond, the pre hearing interview with Brodsky and Odeh etc etc etc

  88. DOH!

    The above theory does make the most sense and YES he was the judge that gave him permission to “take the kids on vacation” if this theory is correct then YES..the prosecution should ask for a new judge..darn skippy!

    looks like they hate Monday’s now huh?

  89. Lisa Bloom explained that the defense likes Judge Richard Schoenstedt, the judge who thus far as handled every issue regarding Drew, because he’s ruled in favor of Drew.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LISA BLOOM = GLORIA ALLRED = CHRISTINA RAINES !!

  90. GLORIA ALLRED:

    “Chrissy may be a witness in this case. If called as a witness Chrissy PLANS TO TELL THE TRUTH”

    Maybe Chrissie already did !!

  91. That brings me back full circle to Drew stating to Chrissie

    “if ever he gets arrested he will go to jail for a couple of days but will be bailed out”

    Maybe he also told Chrissie how that was going to be arranged !

  92. jah,
    What an exciting thought. That could explain the prosecutions sudden motion to have the judge removed…I never understood why the original judge handling this case was changed without reason. I do hope the chief judge isn’t also crooked, as it appears Schoenstedt could be…JUST MY OPINION.

  93. I saw Reem on The Early Show from this morning, she did seem kind of weird sitting there looking around. When she finally was asked a question, her answer sounded like a “Miss America” type (such as Iraq) response, and Brodsky had to rescue her.

    On CBS news Chicago, they said DiP knows Schoenstedt, as that judge used to work in Bolingbrook courthouse!

    If true, someone (Joe H.?) should really dig into this!

  94. Honestly, many cops know many judges because of cases that they must testify in. Peterson may very well know the next judge that comes along in his case, if that should happen.

    Wouldn’t it be a shame, IMHO, to rip this judge to shreds when the prosecution might be using this tactic for strategic reasons, or to even out the playing field if they think he’s being overly cautious about giving the appearance of not favoring the prosecution too much as opposed to the defense?

    Not every judge, lawyer or cop is crooked or unethical. Sometimes, there’s other reasons involved when making decisions related to cases. In today’s events, to me, it was all about one-upping the defense. Caught them off guard, and it worked. Of course, they’ll have to show their hand at why they did it, but it doesn’t mean the judge is unethical or crooked.

    JMHO.

  95. Yeah, as with all groups, there are the good ones and the bad, and I think most of them are good. However, I’m not just making uninformed statements about this judge. By all appearances, he seems to have misogynist tendencies, in the least. I haven’t ripped him to sheds yet, just stating facts and my opinion of them.

  96. womenscornedposton4m Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    I saw Reem on The Early Show from this morning, she did seem kind of weird sitting there looking around. When she finally was asked a question, her answer sounded like a “Miss America” type (such as Iraq) response, and Brodsky had to rescue her.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes she looked very pretty, but what was the purpose of her being there ?

  97. 1chord – have you been involved in cases before this judge or know of his record outside of this case? Getting information on him, firsthand, might be helpful in seeing this more clearly.

    Thanks.

  98. I hear you rescue. When I heard that Drew knew that judge, well you know, Illinois and all.
    This State just gets you used to thinking that way 😦

    On Dr. Phil this week:

    Tuesday – May 19
    Drew Peterson Indicted
    Lisa Bloom
    Anna Doman
    John Q. Kelly
    Gloria Allred
    Ernie Raines

    Thursday – May 21
    What Happens to Drew Peterson’s Children?
    Anna Doman
    Lisa Bloom
    Derek Armstrong

    Does anyone know if this show is live, or taped?

  99. rescueapet Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    Honestly, many cops know many judges because of cases that they must testify in. Peterson may very well know the next judge that comes along in his case, if that should happen.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes I agree with that too rescueapet (your whole post that is but I didn’t want to copy everything because of the length), but when smoke starts to appear there might just be a little bit of a fire emerging somewhere in the distance (!)

    It is very bizarre Joel Brodsky left his client sitting in jail for no apparent reason other than some “Secret Defence Strategy “which didn’t come to the forefront today either, so what stategy was that then ?

    However it does look like a strategy if you wait for a favorable Judge !!

  100. JAH: I wasn’t talking about her looks, but the way she answered the question, she got lost, and Brodsky rescued her.

  101. rescue, I have read many and posted a few accounts of this judge’s cases, and apparently I’m not the only with concerns about this judge. Everyone else is giving opinions here. Is it a problem if I give mine, which are backed with facts and links. I have never met Drew Peterson either, so I give second-hand opinins and reported facts about him, too. I have seen many people who are involved in this case getting “ripped to shreds here”. I can’t imagine what your problem is with me, but if you’d like to tell me, I’d be willing to consider fixing it.
    Thanks

  102. 1chordwonder Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    aussienat,
    you may be right on regarding your misogynist comment…this same judge ruled in a case of a couple who allowed their son to repeatedly rape a young girl. He offered the husband probation in exchange for his testimony against his wife, while rejecting a plea agreement for the wife which would have given her probation. Both peaded guilty.
    http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Steven.R.Stepp.2.326346.html
    http://www.dailyluxe.com/news.php?cid=207187

    ======================================================

    That is absolutely disgusting! I really hope he does not get to sit on peterson’s trial. That would be an absolute travesty. I’m so sick of shonky dealings in the judicial system.

    Off topic of Peterson, but on topic of shady judges, I watched a documentary about a man named Terence Garner on the weekend. The guy was SO obviously innocent, and the judge refused to even entertain the idea. He had an election coming up!

    Fortunately, Garner is now free.

  103. Sorry, 1chord, I didn’t realize asking you if you knew of anything you could post that would help to clarify your statement would get you so upset. No problem here. We’ll just drop it.

  104. Yes she looked very pretty, but what was the purpose of her being there?
    Selig put up the fold up chairs, and told her to have a seat?

  105. rescueapet Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson-bail-19may19,0,740625.story
    ********

    Will County attorneys interviewed Monday said such substitution motions are almost always granted. Prosecutors can have only one judge removed from a murder case; the defense can have two.

    “You don’t have to put evidence on or demonstrate any actual bias,” said Randal Miller, a general-practice attorney who has worked in Joliet for more than 30 years.

    ======================================================

    That’s great news. It’s the same here for jury selection. I was on a jury once. The Barristers got to eliminate a potential juror simply by saying “challenge”. They didn’t need to give any reason whatsoever.

  106. rescue, I have posted to links as to how I formed my opinion about this judge. I’m not upset, it feels to me like you are. I’m not here to cause problems, honestly.

  107. womenscornedposton4m Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 8:15 pm
    JAH: I wasn’t talking about her looks, but the way she answered the question, she got lost, and Brodsky rescued her

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I know womanscorned, I was just being horrible she seemed to be there for decoration only (!)

  108. 1chordwonder Says:

    May 18, 2009 at 8:27 pm
    jah, he ordered for Craig’s 24 guns be released to a friend.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yes sorry, you did mention that before and your reply made me think, as the same Grand Jury is also hearing evidence re Lisa Stebic !

  109. Whether or not we have ‘proof’ that Judge Schoenstedt is shady, I think we have enough to be concerned about him presiding over peterson’s trial.

    Allowing him to go to Florida, giving the guns and cars back (and same with Craig Stebic), as well as the example 1chord gave about the couple who allowed their son to rape a woman.

    If anything, I see him as possibly being a misogynist, which means he will probably take on board all the trashing-talk about KS that the defence is sure to use.

    Again, this is just my opinion.

  110. OT, but don’t you just love the hot pink tie Brodsky wore to court today?? This dude was all set to celebrate today!

  111. re: expected celebrations today…LOL that’s hilarious. I bet they are scrambling now to come up with plan B.

  112. Larry King Live is on right now CDT zone — asking why the prosecution wants a new judge — in case anyone’s interested in watching.

  113. If anything Judge Schoenstedt made some rather unorthodox decisions in this case, which seem to have given many voice for concern !!

  114. http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977684997&grpId=3659174697244149&nav=Groupspace

    Tuesday

    Drew Peterson Indicted

    When Dr. Phil last interviewed Drew Peterson, the former police officer maintained that he had nothing to do with the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy, or the drowning of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, whose death was originally ruled accidental. In a shocking twist, Drew was recently arrested and charged with Kathleen’s murder, and a grand jury is reviewing Stacy Peterson’s case. Legal analyst Lisa Bloom shares information about a new law that may allow into evidence some statements Savio allegedly made before her death. Will this reported testimony from the grave be enough to sway jurors?

    And, Kathleen Savio’s sister, Anna Doman, and her attorney, John Q. Kelly, speak out. Hear why Anna says she knew Drew Peterson was going to kill her sister. And, will Drew’s current fiancée, Christina Raines, stay with him now that he has been indicted? Dr. Phil speaks with Christina’s attorney, Gloria Allred, and Christina’s father, Ernie Raines. How did this family react to the recent news? Don’t miss these and other developments in this case!

    Wednesday

    What Happens to Drew Peterson’s Children?

    Imagine growing up with a father who is suspected of murdering your mother. How would you react to hearing that he was also suspected in your stepmother’s disappearance? The four younger children of former lawman Drew Peterson may be facing such a reality.

    Their dad’s recent arrest shocked the nation, as he’s been charged with the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio. What will happen to the children if Drew receives jail time? Drew has two sons by Kathleen and two young children by his fourth wife, Stacy, who vanished nearly two years ago. The kids are currently staying with Drew’s adult son, Stephen, who maintains that his dad is innocent. Will the youngsters have to testify at their father’s trial? Who should receive custody of them?

    Kathleen’s sister, Anna Doman, and legal analyst Lisa Bloom weigh in. And, Derek Armstrong, author of Drew Peterson Exposed, says he spent hundreds of hours interviewing his titular character. Learn his observations about Drew’s relationship with his children. Does he believe Drew killed Kathleen or was involved in Stacy’s disappearance? You won’t want to miss this explosive show

  115. I’m sort of wondering about the “source” that was mentioned repeatedly in the National Enquirer tease.

    I wonder if Derek Armstrong finally found that buyer for the unauthorized recording he made of his phone conversation with Pastor Schori. Could that be the “exclusive interview” they are referring to?

  116. Facs, I was a little surprised to see Derek’s name listed as a guest.

    Then I read this:

    And, Derek Armstrong, author of Drew Peterson Exposed, says he spent hundreds of hours interviewing his titular character. Learn his observations about Drew’s relationship with his children. Does he believe Drew killed Kathleen or was involved in Stacy’s disappearance? You won’t want to miss this explosive show!

  117. I think he’s finding it is now to his advantage to say that he thinks Drew is guilty.

    Unless he’s changed his mind again. 🙂

  118. Steph Watts was just on Fox News Chicago. He was here with Fuhrman last week covering the story and says that Joel tried to sell him a video of Drew and Chrissy for $200,000.

    The only video of Drew and Chrissy I’d pay for would be the one where they visit the site where he put Stacy’s body and he tells Chrissy how he killed her.

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/steph_watts

  119. I’m with you, Rescue. I can’t imagine watching some Dr. Phil guests bask in their 15 minutes of fame when the best reality show of all has just started its season. The Drew Peterson on Trial for Murder Show.

  120. See, so Chrissy was right the first time. Her coming into the mix was a set-up. But, wait. Could she have fallen in love with a murderer? Stay tuned.

    In the meantime, if you want to see the two buttheads together on film, you’ll have to look elsewhere than Fox. Seems they weren’t interested in a $200,000 ransom for smut. Smooch. Whatever it is those two do when people are watching.

  121. After watching that segment, it really does sound like the engagement was a stunt for $$$, doesn’t it?

  122. Oh, yeah. Brodsky seems to be pimping his client for money. Didn’t Chrissy say that Brodsky wanted her and Drew to get engaged as a publicity stunt?

    Maybe that’s why she went back to being a big cry baby and hiring Allred. She’s losing money, and she’s mad. Ain’t Chrissy happy, ain’t nobody happy.

  123. Ugh, jowl boobsky is simply disgusting. I’m so glad fox declined his vid of the revolting pair frolicking for the cameras.

  124. This has to be the creepiest cast of characters you could ever imagine. None of them have an ounce of shame. And, to quote Rescue’s frequent response, you couldn’t make this crap up.

  125. Can you imagine, they actually came up with the amount they wanted based on how much was paid to the Anthony’s? They used a baby murder case as their model.

    Need. Shower. Now.

  126. http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=294487

    Peterson’s media entourage should emphasize all domestic violence

    By Burt Constable | Daily Herald Columnist

    …”He’s fine. He’s rolling with the punches,” Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s defense attorney, assures a couple dozen media members.

    Celebrity, if that’s what the wisecracking, interview-granting murder suspect is, isn’t what it used to be.

    “Who cares about his mood?” Vickie Smith, executive director of the Illinois Coalition Against Domestic Violence, offers gently. “Everybody deserves a day in court, but why do we focus on his mood?… He seems to be doing very well at feeding the media.”…

    …When I went to the funeral, he laughed and joked in the back,” recalls Henry Savio, father of Kathleen Savio. “You think he’d have some heart.”…

    …If a neighbor got mad and threw a punch, kept you from leaving your house or threatened you every day, you wouldn’t put up with that for six months; you’d call 911 immediately. It’s not so simple with domestic violence.

    “We don’t think about it in the same way,” Smith says. “It’s not about people fighting. It’s about one person who wants control over the other person.” …

  127. …When I went to the funeral, he laughed and joked in the back,” recalls Henry Savio, father of Kathleen Savio. “You think he’d have some heart.”…

    ======================================================

    And therein lies peterson’s total, gobsmacking stupidity. If he had even a tiny bit of common sense, he would have known his behaviour would call him into question.

    Tip: If you are going to off your ex-wife, at least pretend to be cut up about it. If you are going to off your current wife, at least pretend to be cut up about it. Participate in searches, make public pleas for her to come home etc.

    If Drew Peterson had a brain it would be lonely!

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