June 14 trial date set for Drew Peterson

Judge sets trial date for Drew
Hearsay hearing ends, murder trial upcoming for Peterson
February 26, 2010

By JOE HOSEY jhosey@stmedianetwork.com
Drew Peterson is less than four months away from meeting the men and women who will decide whether he heads to prison for what will surely be the rest of his life.

Judge Stephen White Feb. 23 set a June 14 date for the start of jury selection for Peterson’s murder trial.

Peterson, a 56-year-old former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is charged with drowning his third wife, Kathleen Savio, in March 2004.

Savio and Peterson were in the midst of a contentious divorce when she was found dead in her dry bathtub. She was due to claim hundreds of thousands of dollars of her husband’s assets only weeks after she died.

Despite the financial savings Peterson achieved through Savio dying, and the circumstances of her death, state police investigators quickly determined she accidentally drowned and closed the case.

State police were forced to open it back up after Peterson’s next wife, Stacy Peterson, vanished in October 2007.

Peterson claims his fourth wife left him and ran off with an unidentified lover. If Stacy did indeed abscond with a boyfriend, she has managed to keep such a low profile that she not been heard from since.

State police do not buy Peterson’s story of abandonment and have publicly identified him as the sole suspect in what they have termed Stacy’s “potential homicide.” Police have not charged Peterson with harming Stacy.

The state police did arrest Peterson in May for the murder of Savio, and he has remained in jail on a $20 million bond while awaiting his trial, which will commence after a jury is picked.

White said two shifts of 35 potential jurors each will be brought through court when the selection starts.

Attorneys from both sides will have 240 possible jurors to choose from. In August, White had the 240 men and women come to court and fill out questionnaires. He also warned them to avoid information about the Peterson case…

Read the entire story at the Bolingbrook Sun

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  1. facsmiley :

    The Abood Law Firm conducts Mock Trials on behalf of their clients on nearly a monthly basis. This is a tool that proves extremely valuable in determining the potential outcome of a trial.
    Andrew Abood remains undefeated in Mock Trial settings.

    http://aboodlaw.com/2009/12/criminal-sexual-conduct-mock-trial.html
    Something about that last sentence just cracks me up!

    It definitely has a humorous note to it, and who in the heck is it supposed to impress? Noticeably missing is how many of these mock outcomes compare to the outcomes of the actual trials, or his success rate. Wonder why? 🙂 BTW, I see Joel’s site isn’t back online yet, not that it brought in that much business for him anyway.

  2. Came across an amusing review of Derek Armstrong’s “Drew Peterson Exposed”. Thought I would share:

    You know those tabloid newspapers at the checkout aisle in the grocey? Imagine one book length and focused on a single story (and “story” is definitely the operative term here), filled with nonsensical claims and you have “Drew Peterson Exposed”. There are so many large and small factual errors that the informed reader will quickly be laughing out loud. This book is worthwhile as an amusement and nothing more.

    To anyone with the slightest knowledge of civil and criminal law (both are at work here), author Derek Armstong comes across immediately as someone who doesn’t know what he is talking about. Armstrong builds much of his argument around a polygraph test administered to Drew Peterson, consisting of six questions. The examiner found half of Peterson’s answers to be “deceptive”. Yet Armstrong invents reasons why these answers may have been unintentionally deceptive. This is after Armstrong trumpets the self-serving claim that polygraph examinations are according to the American Polygraph Association “98% accurate”. Armstrong misleadingly states that polygraph examinations are “admissible in some states in courts of law”. In fact, 29 states have outright bans on polygraph evidence and 16 require both prosecution and defense lawyers to stipulate to admission. Obviously, if a polygrapher claims someone is innocent, the prosecution is either going to contest that claim or there will be no trial. Thus, polygraph examinations are essentially not used in state criminal courts with the sole exception of New Mexico. In federal courts, the judge has discretion to admit polygraph evidence, but the tendency is not to. Armstrong, while trumpetng the polygraph trade association results, says nothing of the much lower accuracy estimates from other scientifically reputable sources.

    On a smaller scale, Armstrong repeatedly refers to Fox News Channel (its proper name) as “FOX TV”, an entity which does exist.

    In short, Armstrong plays fast and loose with facts.

    This must be taken into account when reading every section of the book. Most of it is a biography of Drew Peterson, much of it garnered from what the author claims were marathon interviews with Peterson. A lot of it is based on various press accounts of the ongoing case.

    Armstrong claims to take no position on Peterson’s guilt or innocence, a view I share despite Peterson’s having been arrested earlier this week for the murder of his third wife. (It is the fourth wife who is missing.)

    But Armstrong is all over various people who claim to have “evidence” against Drew Peterson. Here too, Armstrong can’t keep his facts straight. He has one woman filing for bankruptcy six times in a few years. If you look at the filing history, you see that his claim isn’t exactly true – but it sure makes her sound like something else, doesn’t it?

    The case is overly ripe for the tabloid gossip treatment it receives from Armstrong. Young woman, the fourth wife of a man thirty (30!) years her senior with young children goes missing. Drew’s fourth wife was found dead in a bathtub. Originally classified as an accidental death, a post-exhumation autopsy conducted by a TV famous pathologist concludes that maybe it was murder. Not a flat out statement, but a claim that it might have been murder. All kinds of people crawl out from under rocks. A “friend” who sells his “story” the National Enquirer. Neighbors who claim to have recorded “thousands” of hours of conversations with Drew for the Illinois State Police – and who are revealed to have very shady backgrounds. All kinds of characters.

    Is it worth reading? Only for amusement. You’ll learn some alleged details of Drew Peterson’s life, you’ll read a lot of what you probably already saw on the Greta van Sustern and other shows.

    Armstrong’s language provides much hilarity. For example, he describes Reem Odeh, the partner of Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s criminal defense lawyer, as “a brilliant lawyer most adversaries underestimate because of her model good looks”. Ms. Odeh graduated law school in 2003, hardly enough time to establish a track record as a “brilliant lawyer”, particularly given her concentration ” in eminent-domain law; regularly representing the State of Illinois in a full range of property-condementation [sic] proceedings in Cook and Will counties and has experience as well representing the defense in property-condemnation challenges.”

    Drew Peterson is indeed a character and might be a murderer – or just another victim of sensationalist media like Richard Jewell, the alleged Olympics bomber and the parents of Jon Benet Ramsey, who were falsely accused of murdering their five year old daughter.

    Armstrong, in my opinion, is trying to make a buck off of Peterson’s woes. It is a fair trade for both Peterson and Armstrong. Peterson gets a sympathetic writer who does everything he can to portray Peterson as a really good guy at heart who just happens to have as problem with a couple of wives dying or disappearing mysteriously. Armstrong gets a shot at selling a few thousand copies of his book and doing some TV interviews.

    Would I advise against reading the book? No. It has significant amusement value, especially if you get caught up in identifying all the factual errors, logical inconsistencies and just plain silliness. It will give you a possibly better idea of who Drew Peterson, now indicted for the murder of his third wife, is – if you accept Armstrong’s characterizations as fact. I don’t regret spending the time reading this book, but I don’t take any of it very seriously either.

    Jerry
    Rating: 3 / 5

  3. Had not seen that Facs. Thanks for posting. Have you and Rescue read Armstrong’s book? I haven’t, nor have I wanted to. However, I do find it interesting that Brodsky was on TV telling all who would listen that he didn’t believe in polygraph tests, because the results were like flipping a coin, not accurate, couldn’t be used in court, etc., etc. Then after Drew was given one for this book, he couldn’t say enough good things about them, and how well Drew did, (for the believers in polygraphs, he said) even though Drew was considered being deceptive on several questions. Go figure…but that’s Joel for you.

  4. Yes, I read the book, although I’m more tempted to call it Drew’s book than Armstrong’s since he dictated so much of it and since Armstrong stuck to the pro-Drew, anti-victim tone that he agreed to.

    Looks like Armstrong has beaten that subpoena to testify so far. I wonder if he turned over his interview tapes though.

  5. facsmiley :Yes, I read the book, although I’m more tempted to call it Drew’s book than Armstrong’s since he dictated so much of it and since Armstrong stuck to the pro-Drew, anti-victim tone that he agreed to.
    Looks like Armstrong has beaten that subpoena to testify so far. I wonder if he turned over his interview tapes though.

    I don’t know FAcs, but he was releasing some of them to the public to promote his book, so what’s the big deal. There’s confirmation of that fact in the fact I just posted above.

  6. “Andrew Abood remains undefeated in Mock Trial settings.”

    And Coffeeocity sounds like Billie Holliday when she sings in the shower. 🙂

  7. One thing that’s always bothered me is why dp answered the call from Cass down by the canal. If he was there ( which he does admits to Dr. Phil) disposing of evidence or Stacy, would he not make sure his phone was shut off, knowing it would “ping” in that area. Did he not bother to look at the caller ID, possibly thinking it may have been Thomas calling? Or did he do it purposely to throw off a future search party?
    Your thoughts?

  8. Just a refresher from a Chicago Tribune story August 14, 2009, since Juror selection is to start June 14th:

    [Judge White] had jurors complete a 10-page, 33-question questionnaire that asked them about their news consumption and family background.

    Jurors were also asked if they knew anyone on a list of 493 people whose names may be mentioned at trial. Police officers or investigators make up as much as a fifth of the list, Peterson attorney Reem Odeh said in court.

  9. Ruger, IMO there are just so many unknowns about Drew’s whereabouts and actions that night (before and after the time he spent with Morphey) I just couldn’t begin to guess at any of his motivations. He has stated that he was looking for Stacy that evening and since he knew that Stacy was romantically interested in Scott Rossetto, perhaps he thought that it wouldn’t seem odd to appear to be looking for his missing wife in the area near Rossetto’s residence.

    Possibly he thought it better to chance answering the phone than to need to come up with a reason for not answering it.

    I just don’t know.

  10. This is my theory on those phone calls. The first 2 calls they were able to tell how many minutes were used on Stacy’s phone and who she called (Drew’s phone).That is all. Once that 3rd call came through and was answered they knew where the call originated from and where it was going to. Since Glasgow brings up Scott Rosseto, I’m assuming the call was made from Shorewood where he lived and where Drew was.Placing the call to Tom (who had Drews phone in his pocket.), accidentally answers it just as that 3rd call came in.(Not hearing a ring.) Making it a miracle as Glasgow put it.Now they know Tom is in the park he told them he was. For now they can trace the call to the location upon answering the phone. Then later when Cass calls Drew’s phone and he answers they know where he was. Near the canal in Romeoville.

  11. Interesting theory Givarat. Actually, thanks to you, for the first time, I may understand Glasgow’s use of the word miracle. It has to do with Drew’s timeline, according to what he told Derek Armstrong. From 9:00 pm to 9:15 pm, he said he was at home, where he said he received a single call from Stacy at 9:00. Not two, or three, but A call at or about 9:00 p.m. AT HOME. (According to the phone records, we know the calls were actually made at 9:04, 9:05 and 9:07.) Then at 9:15, Drew says he leaves his home to go find Stacy, but now we know the calls came in minutes earlier and have been traced to the park where Morphey said he was holding Drew’s phone. So how far away from Drew’s is the park? I have two reason for asking this question. The second one is below.

    According to TM, after calls, Drew shows up at the park a little later, takes him to Drew’s house to load the blue barrel and then home, where he calls Martineck around 9:45 and goes to see him about 10:00. I’m aware that Morphey only lived about 1.5 miles away from Drew, but for all of that to have been done in 30 minutes or so, the park must be fairly close to Drew’s. Does anybody know how the distance? Just curious, and it’s probably been discussed already, but I don’t remember it. Timeline info below.

    https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/timeline/

  12. By they way, I am aware that, according to Morphey, Drew had left home earlier than 9:00 to pick up TM, take him by Starbuck’s, then to the park, where he left him and rode to Rosetto’s area to make the calls, returned for Morphey, and all the rest.

  13. givarat :Yes the park is close to his house. Closer than where T.M was living. Maybe about a mile.

    Thanks Giv. So a 30-35 minute time frame to do all that and get Morphey home in time to call Martineck at 9:45 might not be unreasonable, huh? Do you know how far it is from Rosetto’s area to the park? Just curious, as I know absolutely nothing about Bolingbrook.

  14. Obviously, it must have been a little later than 9:45 (I’ve also seen around 10:00) when TM called Martineck, and I’m sure the SAO has all of the actual phone logs anyway, so I’m not worried about a few minutes here or there. At any rate, it surely seems to corroborate Morphy’s story. Like I said, Glasgow knows more about what he’s doing that I ever will.

  15. it was not impossible for the thing to accomplish all this in a narrow timeframe. I live in the BB area and I-55 would get him there and back however I have a ? and that is this: was it necessary for the thing to have been in Shorewood physically for the cell ping to have occured ? Could he possibly have had prior knowledge as to which tower would receive the ping and plan accordingly, such as a call from the I-55 & US 30 interchange which is actually Joliet/Plainfield would ping the Shorewood tower ? If Nextel is the carrier this info s/b easy to find. If the thing managed to squeeze all those activities within a 30 minute timeframe, IMHO thats cutting things close travelwise.

  16. Could he possibly have had prior knowledge as to which tower would receive the ping and plan accordingly, such as a call from the I-55 & US 30 interchange which is actually Joliet/Plainfield would ping the Shorewood tower ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Considering Drews MO is blaming and framing ( he seems to always be setting people up) he may very well have familiarized himself with cell phone pings from certain towers, especially if he was going to make certain calls part of his alibi (!!)

  17. If the thing managed to squeeze all those activities within a 30 minute timeframe, IMHO thats cutting things close travelwise.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hello writer – How about a 45 minute time frame as I remember Thomas Morphey stating somewhere Drew was gone for about 45 minutes (?)

    BTW What did he tell Thomas he was going to do for Thomas to be sitting there with Drews phone as that seems a very odd thing to do to give someone your phone and then take off (!!)

  18. Folks, I really don’t even know for sure that it was a tower in Shorewood that Drew’s phone pinged off of, or if that is just speculation from other posters, or fact. It could have been somewhere closer for all I know, but I can guarantee you with almost complete certainty that the SAO knows what tower it was.

    Writer, I don’t put anything past that sorry mess of a man.

  19. http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.witness.2.952042.html

    Not only that, police sources allege Morphey assisted Peterson in a scheme to set cell phone towers pinging near the home of her friend Scott Rossetto, a male nurse living in Shorewood. The sources said they suspected Peterson was trying to frame Rossetto for doing away with Stacy.

    Peterson is believed to have left his cell phone with Morphey in Bolingbrook, then went to Shorewood with Stacy’s cell phone. Peterson is alleged to have called his own cell with Stacy’s from Shorewood to leave a record of the call, sources said.

  20. This is from the Morphy timeline I put together based on what was reported to the media (pre-hearsay hearings):

    Octoberr 28:

    The next night Peterson shows up once more at Morphey’s home. They get coffee at a Starbucks drive-through and then Peterson drives him to a park off Weber Road.

    Peterson hands Morphey a cell phone, instructing him not to answer it.

    45 minutes later the phone rings and then rings again. The caller ID shows “Stacy”.

    Within an hour of the calls Peterson returns to the park and picks up Morphey. He asks Morphey to help him move something.

    They drive to Peterson’s house where the children’s bedroom doors are closed and Peterson tells him to be quiet. Peterson pushes a blue barrel out of his bedroom. Morphey helps Peterson carry the barrel down the stairs, out of the house and into the Denali. Peterson then drives Morphey home and tells him “This never happened.”

    About 10 o’clock Morphey visits his friend, Walter Martinek and tells him that he thinks he has just helped Drew move Stacy

    https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/documents/#pp

  21. If Drew’s story was that he was at home, why not just leave the phone laying in the bedroom. Why give the phone to Tom and instruct him not to answer it. So he see Stacy is calling? Then he has him help him move the barrel to his Denali, yet when the cops come to search, it is Stacy’s car they aren’t allowed access to.

  22. Thanks so much Facs for posting these. I think ‘ve seen most of them, and they all say pretty much the same thing, except the times Morphey called and/or showed up at Martineck’s vary a few minutes either ways with other reports. Minutes are pretty important here, but as I said, I’m sure Glasgow has all the phone records, which have never been publicly disclosed as far as I know. Or have they, and I missed seeing the report? I just can’t personally say with any certainty that it actually was a tower, or towers, pinged in Shorewood, based on what I know about it, even from these reports. I feel sure that is what Morphey was told and understood, and it’s very probably the case, but you never know with Drew.

  23. I don’t think anyone can give an account of an event that is accurate to the minute, unless you have prior knowledge such an event is going to be important for some reason or another (such as establishing an alibi with receipts in a red alibi folder for example – LOL) so if Thomas Morphey didn’t have his times down pat doesn’t mean he’s lying or the events he described couldn’t have happened the way he says.

    The only one with a motive and reason to lie is Drew, after all he’s the one with the dead and missing wives and he’s the one in need of an alibi every four years or so (!!)

  24. ruger44 :
    One thing that’s always bothered me is why dp answered the call from Cass down by the canal. If he was there ( which he does admits to Dr. Phil) disposing of evidence or Stacy, would he not make sure his phone was shut off, knowing it would “ping” in that area. Did he not bother to look at the caller ID, possibly thinking it may have been Thomas calling? Or did he do it purposely to throw off a future search party?
    Your thoughts?

    Just want to clarify,,, when I mention “Thomas” above, I meant young Thomas and not Tom Morphy.

    When I think about “what” evidence the Judge must have seen, to uphold the contested 20M bond. It makes me believe it must be much more than hearsay, circumstantial or even dp’s own recorded words of incrimination on the overhears.
    I believe there must be much more on the overhears, more sinister than destroying the garden or sabotaging the search boat. Maybe dp thought if he could make Glasgow disappear, so would his problems.

  25. Wow, Ruger! Do you know something about those overhears we don’t? Something on them you know about? I remember hearing something about there being talk about Drew and Brodsky discussing the garden, and something about the boat. But, it’s a giant leap to think he maybe discussed making Glasgow disappear. That’s speculation I don’t think we want to get into. Unless……

  26. Sorry Rescue, but I only know what was already revealed by Len and Paula. But when they stated with such confidence that what was revealed was nothing compared to what they actually have, it makes me wonder. Even if dp flat out confessed on the overhears, would that be enough to maintain such a high bond? I don’t think so.
    I feel something much more disturbing was presented as evidence to show that this guy is a “loose cannon” that cannot be let back out on the streets. JMO!

  27. About Drew picking up the call from Cass. Of course Mr Control Freak had Cass’ caller ID, so he knew he had to respond for ass-covering. I believe he said he was looking for Stacy.

  28. Ruger, I believe the high bail has a connection to his “moonlighting” activities, but that’s only my opinion. I don’t think LE would be ignoring the accusation from the hazmat driver that Drew was at the truckstop with another man in a black pickup flashing badges trying to stop him leaving…and certainly not after they discovered a network of officers across different agencies busted through the crooks operating out of Harvey who provided security for illegal drug running.

    I know it’s controversial because I can’t prove it in any way, but it did seem a bit of a sweet set of circumstances to be so close to an airfield with no security to speak of and the truckstop where Tom Morphey was a night manager. Tom may know something a bit more than what happened around Stacy’s disappearance and could be a contributing factor to his limited cooperation with Drew. Fear.

    I think killing the mothers of his children is firm indication that he would stop at nothing to have everything his way.

  29. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/2074488,police_bungle_peterson_jo022810.article

    Did state police bungle the Peterson case?
    Testimony shows cops may have mishandled much of murder investigation

    February 28, 2010
    By Joe Hosey JHOSEY@STMEDIANETWORK.COM

    Prosecutors spent a month tarring Drew Peterson with hours of testimony about how he supposedly killed his last two wives. But after all the witnesses and all the arguing, in the end, it was the state police who may have looked the guiltiest of all.

    The revelations about how the state police allegedly mishandled the death investigation for Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio, emerged during the hearsay hearing as a prelude to Peterson’s murder trial.

    Savio was found dead in her bathtub exactly six years ago tomorrow. At least one woman and three men, including an attorney and a Bolingbrook police officer, went to the state police soon after her body was discovered and tried to report the suspicions they harbored about her ex-husband, Drew Peterson.

    Those suspicions fell on deaf ears.

    “I told them Kathy was afraid of Drew,” Savio’s boyfriend, Steve Maniaci, testified during the hearsay hearing. “I told them Drew broke into her house. I told them the fact that he had cut a hole in the wall to gain entry and it should be looked at. I told them Kathy was very scared of Drew and it should be looked at closely.”
    Police: No sign of foul play
    Based on testimony from witnesses, closely is not a word one would use to describe the way the state police looked at the death of Savio.

    But dismissing the concerns of those who reached out to them was only half the problem with the state police’s method of gathering witness information in the Savio case. The law’s long arm did not reach out very far to find anyone else; a state police “canvass” of the residents around Savio’s home stopped short of her ex-husband Drew Peterson’s street, less than a quarter mile away.

    Possibly worse, the state police did not interview a single member of Savio’s family during their investigation, including two sisters who said Savio predicted Peterson would kill her and make her death appear accidental.

    One of the two sisters, Susan Doman, testified at a coroner’s inquest convened about a month after Savio died. From the stand, Doman said — in the presence of a state police special agent assigned to the case — that Savio “was just terrified of (Peterson). He always threatened her.”

    The inquest ended with a jury ruling that Savio’s death was accidental. The jury reached its verdict after the same special agent, Herbert Hardy, testified that the state police found no sign of foul play during the investigation.
    Belief unchanged
    While the state police did not talk to too many people about the circumstances surrounding Savio’s death, others, including Lisa Mordente, who was once Savio’s boss at a Romeoville sign company, did not go out of their way to seek out the law either.

    “Because it wouldn’t have helped,” Mordente testified during the hearsay hearing. “Because Kathleen said it wouldn’t have helped.”

    Sgt. Patrick Collins, the top man of a team of state police investigators, made up his mind within an hour of arriving at Savio’s home that the dead woman in the tub had died accidentally. And apparently no one could talk him out of it. Not even one of his own.

    State police Master Sgt. Bryan Falat worked the Savio death investigation when he was a trooper on loan to the agency’s investigation division. He testified on the 12th day of the hearsay hearing that he repeatedly urged Collins, the lead agent on the investigation, to approach the case as if something more sinister than a slip-and-fall accident had occurred in Savio’s bathtub.

    For example, Falat suggested re-interviewing the friends and neighbors who found Savio’s body. He advised that allowing Drew Peterson to be questioned in the lunchroom of the Bolingbrook police station, where Peterson had worked as an officer since 1977, might not be the most prudent course of action. And he spoke against allowing Peterson to be present for the interrogation of his much younger, new wife, Stacy Peterson, which was held in the basement of the couple’s house.

    Collins did not heed any of Falat’s objections or recommendations. He apparently was already under the sway of the third member of the investigative team, state police Crime Scene Investigator Robert Deel who — despite the first-degree murder charges now facing Peterson in connection with Savio’s death — still believes she was the victim of nothing more than an accident.
    ‘I don’t care why …’
    Collins testified at the hearsay hearing that he had never worked a homicide when he was sent to Savio’s home and that he deferred to the judgment of Deel, a 24-year veteran of the state police.

    Deel collected no evidence during his investigation of the Savio death scene. He overlooked a glass of orange juice on her kitchen counter, a mug of water in her microwave and a condom Falat says he told him was in a bathroom wastebasket. Deel denies Falat told him about the condom — which Savio’s boyfriend says he did not put there. Either way, Deel conceded that he did not look in the wastebasket, or any other trash receptacles, during his investigation.

    Deel also failed to check for the clothes Savio was wearing before she took her supposed death bath, or to document whether there were any towels in the bathroom. And he neglected to dust for fingerprints or conduct chemical blood testing.

    When she was found in the tub, Savio had an inch-long bloody gash on the back of her head, which she apparently sustained during the “accidental” fall before she drowned. But Deel did not find it strange that he could find no blood or hair on any of the surfaces around the tub.

    Savio’s body also bore the marks of scratches and extensive bruising, but it was not enough to raise Deel’s investigative radar. As he put it, “The bruises on the body are insignificant to me.”

    The fact that Peterson and Savio, who while legally divorced were still in the midst of a contentious property dispute that was due to wrap up in the coming weeks with Savio claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in the couple’s assets, including a portion of her husband’s pension, was also lost on Deel. As was Peterson and Savio’s acrimonious and violent history, which was lowlighted by 19 calls to the police and allegations of assault, battery, theft and harassment. Motive, after all, does not come into play when Deel probes a potential murder.

    “I don’t care why it happened,” he explained.
    No demerit?

    And if anyone else in the state police — aside from Falat — cared about the circumstances of Kathleen Savio’s life and death, they must not have looked into it deeply; the state police determined she died accidentally, just as Deel and Collins figured from the start.

    But less than three and a half years later, Stacy Peterson, the wife Collins allowed to be held and coached by Drew Peterson during her basement interview, mysteriously disappeared. Suddenly, the Kathleen Savio backstory became a much more compelling subject to the state police.

    It was about this same time that the Will County state’s attorney’s office ordered the state police to keep Deel out of its jurisdiction. At least that’s the way Deel tells it.

    During the hearsay hearing, one of Peterson’s attorneys, Andrew Abood, asked Deel whether his superiors reprimanded him for failing to take fingerprints or if he was stuck with a “demerit” for his performance in the Savio investigation. Deel answered no to both questions.

    “Nobody from the state’s attorney’s office has written a letter to the I.S.P. and said, I don’t want Bob Deel investigating crimes in Will County anymore?” Abood asked, to which Deel replied, “I don’t know about a letter, but I know that’s happened.”

    Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, declined to confirm whether that request came from Glasgow himself.

    Following his appearance at the hearsay hearing on Feb. 4, Deel answered, “No comment,” when asked if he is allowed to conduct investigations in Will County, but state police Master Sgt. Isaiah Vega confirmed Deel does still work here.
    Another murder case
    Whether Deel can operate in the county or not, the damage to the Savio investigation has already been done. And questions about his performance may be raised in at least one other high-profile murder case as well.

    Joliet attorney Gerald Kielian, who represents Christopher Vaughn in a pending quadruple murder case, confirmed Deel had a hand in processing the crime scene.

    “He was the chief investigator,” Kielian said.

    Vaughn, who could face the death penalty if convicted, allegedly shot his wife and three young children to death as they sat in the family’s sport utility vehicle on the Interstate 55 frontage road outside Channahon in June 2007.

    While Kielian declined to comment further, or to disclose whether Deel’s handling of the crime scene will be an issue during the trial, his co-counsel, attorney John Rogers argued a motion to dismiss the case in September based on the alleged mishandling of a piece of evidence.

    A towel found on the lap of the dead body of Vaughn’s wife, Kimberly Vaughn, was seized and taken to the Will County morgue, where for some reason it was put in the wash, destroying its evidentiary value. Vaughn’s attorneys maintained that the evidence lost in the wash might have played a part in clearing their client.

    The judge in the case shot down the argument but it remains unclear who washed the towel and why he did so.

    Pelkie declined to discuss the towel, as did Vega, pointing out that the state police do not comment on ongoing criminal investigations or prosecutions. Which was why he could not comment on the Savio case or the Stacy Peterson investigation, which possibly could have been avoided if Collins had listened to Savio’s attorney, Harry Smith, her boyfriend Steve Maniaci, her friend Kristin Anderson, or Bolingbrook police Officer Richard Treece.

    “I attempted to do what she told me to do (if she died),” Smith said. “I had to go to the authorities and tell them Drew did it.

    “I called,” Smith said. “I told him who I was and I told him essentially the complaint and the thing Kathleen had told me. At least I attempted to.”

    The state agent he spoke to “was not prepared for that kind of a conversation,” Smith said, and told him “someone would get back to me.”

    No one did.
    Critical of the cops
    Anderson, who briefly lived with her family in Savio’s basement, told much the same story as Smith.

    “They never followed up with me,” she said. “I called. I made a couple of phone calls.”

    Three-and-a-half years later, when the state police got a second chance to solve the mystery of what happened to one of Drew Peterson’s wives, they again proved less than adept at returning telephone calls.

    “I immediately made attempts to call the state police,” Neil Schori, a pastor who says Stacy Peterson confided in him about her husband killing Savio, said of his reaction to the news Stacy was missing.

    “I made multiple phone calls, left multiple voice mails,” said Schori, noting not one was returned. He said he also went to the District 5 state police headquarters in Lockport, but no one would meet with him.

    As luck would have it, Schori happened to be serving on a grand jury when Sgt. Collins was called as a witness. He stood up and said he needed to speak with the sergeant and was finally able to share his information, which may prove vital to the prosecution in Peterson’s murder trial.

    During the hearsay hearing, Schori testified how Stacy told him of Peterson missing from their home in the early morning hours just before Savio was found dead. When he showed up again, Peterson was dressed all in black and was dumping clothes from a bag into the washing machine.

    Peterson came up with a cover story, Schori said Stacy told him, and he coached her how to answer the cops when they came with questions.

    Stacy may have lied to the state police to make her husband’s alibi, but she was still critical of the cops who bought her story for the way they conducted their investigation of Savio’s death.

    “It never went very far,” Schori said Stacy told him of the police probe. “The police didn’t go very far looking at him.”

  30. Thank you, Joe. Well done. I bet you’ve been waiting a long time to be able to write and publish this. We love ya. (now, if you would just stop referring to the marital assets as “his”…. 🙂 )

  31. bucketoftea :
    About Drew picking up the call from Cass. Of course Mr Control Freak had Cass’ caller ID, so he knew he had to respond for ass-covering. I believe he said he was looking for Stacy.

    Yea you have to wonder why he answered her call if it would give his current location away at the time. Especially when earlier that night he set up cell call pings from Shorewood. Was he expecting a call from Cass? Just hoping she or someone would call him why he was in that area? Seems like a longshot. Unless he had a backup plan to maybe even call Cass or anyone just to document his whereabouts at the time. Perhaps there was a call from his phone to someone else that we don’t know about. Things that make you wonder anyway. I think if I just disposed of someone in that area I wouldn’t want any record of being close to that location. So maybe he did take the barrel the opposite way and then went there. Timeline gives him an hour and a half approximately before Cass calls him. Then we can’t be sure he returned home at 12:00 am according to his timeline either.

    Thanks for that link about the calls from Shorewood CFS. I knew there was more proof out there on the Cell phone pings originating from Shorewood, but things are getting harder to find since all the news on the hearsay trial.

  32. Wow, fantastic news story, Joe!!!!

    “It never went very far,” Schori said Stacy told him of the police probe. “The police didn’t go very far looking at him.”

    This says it all. Since it’s the first time I’ve heard this statement from Pastor Schori, it was a little bit of a shock. Even Stacy Peterson admitted to someone that the Savio investigation fell short.

    It’s a subject the State is going to have to deal with, IMO, when this case goes to trial. If I was on the jury, I’d sure want to hear why and how this investigation went so right for Drew Peterson and wrong for Kathleen.

  33. Hmmm. Sort of ironic that it was Sgt. Collins who was the one to finally listen to Neil. Wasn’t aware that it was him until today.

    From Joe’s article today:

    As luck would have it, Schori happened to be serving on a grand jury when Sgt. Collins was called as a witness. He stood up and said he needed to speak with the sergeant and was finally able to share his information, which may prove vital to the prosecution in Peterson’s murder trial.

    From Joe’s article on Neil’s testimony in January:

    Schori happened to be on grand jury duty at the time. In the coming days, a state police sergeant was called before the grand jury as a witness. It was only then, Schori said, that he was able to get someone to listen to him.

  34. The reason Peterson answered Cass’ call was because, IMO, he was experiencing unforeseen circumstances. First of all, his original plan to dispose of Stacy’s remains were to rent a storage locker through Morphey. Since that didn’t work out, he had to deal with her death and disposal a different way.

    When Stacy’s sister began calling for her, trying to find her, it was inevitable she’d call Peterson. But, he would have no way of knowing what that call from her was going to mean for him. For all he knew, she could have been standing surrounded by a dozen police officers, who were looking for him. He had to answer her call to see what the situation was.

  35. What Rescue said, and also maybe too because he wanted to try to convince Cass that he really was out looking for her, rather than what most of us believe he was in the process or completion of doing, which was disposing of Stacy’s body. His lies have finally caught up with him though, and everything is unfolding right before his ginormous puffy eyes.

    Cales said she reached Sgt. Peterson at 11:26 p.m. Sunday.

    “When he first answered the phone, I said, ‘Hi,’ and (he said), ‘Where’s your sister?’ and I said, ‘That’s why I’m calling you.’ He was just jumping all over the place saying, ‘Well last week, she was going to disappear just like your mom did, and I know that’s a crock of crap. And then he said, ‘Well she ran off with another guy. She’s been seeing these other guys.’ And that’s not her.”

    http://wcbstv.com/national/Stacy.Peterson.missing.2.481045.html

  36. Great points all, on the call from Cass!
    But do we know if this was her first attempt to call him? If she was trying to contact Stacy all day I would think she would have tried calling dp also.
    What’s bothering me is his location at the time of that call. If I’m correct, the search at the canal was conducted on the east side. Access to to the canal is gated off on east Division at the start of the bridge and there are many homes and businesses over on that side. I don’t think he would risk being seen stopping to “pick” a gate lock. However the west side is very secluded and is accessible up to the river but not the canal. The phone would have pinged off the same tower, no matter which side he was on. To look at this area, just search “Stateville Prison Joliet” on Google Maps, and look east on Division up to the river. Looks like a great “makeout” spot that I’m guessing dp was well aware of.

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  38. Ruger, Cass and Drew did not get along and she has explained that she did not like calling him but only did it after trying Stacy’s phone all day with no answer.

    She went to Stacy’s house at about 11 under the pretense of giving some fundraising money to the kids and Kris told her that Stacy and Drew had gotten in a fight and that Drew was out looking for her.

    Cales had been expecting her sister to help her paint with a friend on Sunday, but five hours after Stacy had been expected, she had not shown up. Cales said began “calling her cell phone, calling the house, I was calling everybody, and then finally I broke down and called Drew.”

    Cales said she reached Sgt. Peterson at 11:26 p.m. Sunday.

    http://wcbstv.com/national/Stacy.Peterson.missing.2.481045.html

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  40. The law’s long arm did not reach out very far to find anyone else; a state police “canvass” of the residents around Savio’s home stopped short of her ex-husband Drew Peterson’s street, less than a quarter mile away.(end snip J.H.)

    /mod edit to show quote/

    well, isn’t that interesting; was it time for a donut break ? Joe Hosey wrote an excellent article which IMHO is an indictment of the police more than anything.

  41. ruger:
    (snip)

    What’s bothering me is his location at the time of that call. If I’m correct, the search at the canal was conducted on the east side. Access to to the canal is gated off on east Division at the start of the bridge and there are many homes and businesses over on that side. I don’t think he would risk being seen stopping to “pick” a gate lock. However the west side is very secluded and is accessible up to the river but not the canal. The phone would have pinged off the same tower, no matter which side he was on. To look at this area, just search “Stateville Prison Joliet” on Google Maps, and look east on Division up to the river. Looks like a great “makeout” spot that I’m guessing dp was well aware of.

    /mod edit to show quote/

    ~~~~~
    I am very familiar with that location and the surrounding areas which are natural wooded preserves & prairie, heavy industry including a coal fired power plant, refinaries and various bodies of water. IMHO the DesPlaines River is way too shallow to dump much into however I have mentioned Romeoville Beach a number of times, with the hopes that it was searched because it’s a former quarry/private recreation area and now owned I think by Citgo Refinery. There is access right to the edge of the “beach” via a winding dirt road which neanders around but you must know where you are going. This private dirt road access was visable thru google earth and came up from the southwest of the “beach”. Here is a map link however it doesnt name the bodies of water but R.B. is located s/w quadrant 135th & New Ave :

    http://www.mapquest.com/mq/9-BGcI7rHbB*1F

    There are other off the beaten path hidden away places in that area. I searched when Stacy went missing and made mention of Romeoville Beach a number of X’s hoping it was searched because I have this gut feeling….and the thing was in that area, according to cell pings.

  42. ruger: (snip)

    Access to to the canal is gated off on east Division at the start of the bridge and there are many homes and businesses over on that side. I don’t think he would risk being seen stopping to “pick” a gate lock. However the west side is very secluded and is accessible up to the river but not the canal.

    /mod edit to show quote/

    ~~~~
    there are numerous canal access areas on both the E & W sides..many barges are tied up alongside the canal with easy access if you know where you are going.
    At the time S disappeared, the canal access via Centennial Park was not secured because the quarry workers used that bumpy windy unpaved road to get to where the heavy earth moving equiptment was parked. They were involved in a construction project at that time and at that location the road ended. There was easy access from this awful road right to the canal waters edge. I know because I was there, searching and observing and knowing that this would be an ideal location for someone to leave their evil handiwork. A formal search was launched soon afterwords and the area was secured by the ISP. Still, this location is remote, secluded except for those in the know. I personally ruled out Isle A La Cache directly to the W & S/W of the canal due to wildlife and shallow waters.

  43. writerofwrongs, have you tried making use of the “quote” button to quote and reply to other comments? Saves you the cut and paste and is easier for others to follow.

    Thanks!

  44. rescue
    The reason Peterson answered Cass’ call was because, IMO, he was experiencing unforeseen circumstances.
    (end snip)

    ~~~~~

    yes, the control freak lost control and needed to somehow regain that control or the illusion, anyway.
    I recall Cassandra saying that Drew was out of breath when he answered the call that night. This leads me to believe he was doing something physically strenuous and thats why IMHO Stacy is near 135th-Canal region.

  45. gatekeep: I recall Cassandra saying that the thing was out of breath or breathless when he answered her call that night.

  46. Another thing about answering Cass’ call is that even if not already with LE, he’d want to stop her going to them!

  47. DD posted this on another forum. I thought it was interesting to compare this case to these:

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/02/26/remains-of-woman-missing-two-years-found-in-maryland/19375757/

    Remains of Woman Missing Two Years Found in Maryland
    David Lohr

    (Feb. 26) — It has been more than two years since Lynn Dodenhoff has looked into the face of her blond-haired, blue-eyed daughter, Christine Marie Sheddy. The 26-year-old’s sudden disappearance in late 2007 remained a mystery until today, when police announced that human remains found last week have been positively identified as Sheddy’s.

    “We were holding out hope that was her,” Dodenhoff told AOL News. “We wanted her children, my grandchildren, to know that their mother did not abandon them.”…

  48. I do not want to make a mess with the cell phones (again);) but something does not agree with me about them. The last call was made at 9:07 and lasted for 8 minutes. It makes 9:15. Thomas called Martineck at 9:45. I cannot understand how Drew could manage to get back from Shorewood, pick up Tom from the park, move a barrel and drive Tom back home within those 30 minutes.

  49. And I’d like to ask a question. Waay back when this was a very large part of GretaWire, there were some locals who were reporting a wood-chipping plant (or business) close by Bolingbrook. The bloggers were very insistent that this be investigated thoroughly before the first freeze.
    I’d like to know if 1)anyone in LE ever searched this facility, and 2)if these suggestions were ever taken into consideration.
    Thanks in advance for any answers someone may be able to provide.

  50. facsmiley :
    Ruger, Cass and Drew did not get along and she has explained that she did not like calling him but only did it after trying Stacy’s phone all day with no answer.
    She went to Stacy’s house at about 11 under the pretense of giving some fundraising money to the kids and Kris told her that Stacy and Drew had gotten in a fight and that Drew was out looking for her.

    Cales had been expecting her sister to help her paint with a friend on Sunday, but five hours after Stacy had been expected, she had not shown up. Cales said began “calling her cell phone, calling the house, I was calling everybody, and then finally I broke down and called Drew.”
    Cales said she reached Sgt. Peterson at 11:26 p.m. Sunday.

    http://wcbstv.com/national/Stacy.Peterson.missing.2.481045.html

    Facs, what fundraising money? If you’ll be so kind as to remind me, please?

  51. I believe it was a school fundraiser since she was giving money to Kris. Maybe for the band? I don’t know.

    CASSANDRA: I continued to call her cell phone, it kept ringing and then I called the house and that’s when Kris answered the phone and said she that went to Grandpas. Well I got off the phone with him and I was wondering okay maybe she went to Grandpas so I call my uncle because my Grandpa’s number wouldn’t go through, he must have changed his number and he’s like yeah I’ll call over there and he called over there and nobody got a hold of him because he was sleeping or whatever because he’s old, you know he’s in an old timer home and Kyle calls me back and said no, why what’s going on and I told him what’s going on and so he called my aunt in California and she spoke to my Grandpa three times that day, Sunday and no intentions, he said nothing about Stacy coming out. She had no plans on going out and she was never there.

    GRETA: So what did you do?

    CASSANDRA: So I started to panic and said okay where are the kids, the little ones, you know, if she went to Grandpas I wanted to know if she had them. So then I went to the Peterson house to ask, to see, I had some fund raiser money for the kids so that was my excuse to go over there. So I show up and knock on the door, no cars are in the driveway.

    GRETA: What time was that about?

    CASSANDRA: About 11 o’clock at night

    GRETA: No cars in the driveway?

    CASSANDRA: (shakes head no)

    http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/stacypeterson/index.html

    http://www.bhsmusicboosters.com/fundraisers.aspx

  52. cyrhla :I do not want to make a mess with the cell phones (again);) but something does not agree with me about them. The last call was made at 9:07 and lasted for 8 minutes. It makes 9:15. Thomas called Martineck at 9:45. I cannot understand how Drew could manage to get back from Shorewood, pick up Tom from the park, move a barrel and drive Tom back home within those 30 minutes.

    IMO you bring up good points and it’s important to look at. Do we have testimony that states Tom saw Drew with another phone? Your observation could possibly mean another individual was involved. Tom testified that Drew originally wanted Stacy’s car in Shorewood by Rosetto’s area. Something changed. Drew also needed to make sure all of the kids were in their rooms before coming back with Tom to load the barrel. IMO- Based on the limited time, did Drew double back to the house (also alibi) and send someone else out to the Shorewood area to place the call on Stacy’s phone? Or maybe the individual was all ready there, just waitng for DP’s signal. Cyrhla- Good observation that the prosecution is no doubt researching. Or maybe they have the answer.

  53. Do we know that the 9:00-9:07 calls were placed from the Shorewood area? I don’t recall ever seeing that reported anywhere.

    I know the canal search was reported to be based on cell phone pings, but couldn’t those have been from the 11:30 call from Cass to Drew?

  54. I’m sorry, I don’t mean to burst anyone’s investigative bubbles, but after 2 1/2 years of investigations and Grand Jury testimony, I’m sure they have wood chippers covered. He was working on the fly and didn’t really have much time to do anything involved. If he engaged someone’s help, I’m sure the investigation of Drew Peterson was much more intensive this time, including getting reports of who he called in the weeks before and after his wife, Stacy, disappeared. The SA didn’t ask for and get permission to exhume a family’s loved one, Kathleen, because they had nothing better to do. Or interview hundreds of people in the aftermath of both Kathleen’s exhumation and Stacy’s disappearance. Drew Peterson’s luck with the law ran out, and I feel comfortable, IMO, saying, he’s not well received by many co-workers, family or friends.

    To be perfectly honest, if you will think back and recall when it came out that Lenny had recorded convo’s of Drew’s, he said: “According to Wawczak, Peterson predicted that he would have already been tried and acquitted in Stacy’s disappearance last year by the time police find her remains.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5440864&page=1

  55. Rescue-“To be perfectly honest, if you will think back and recall when it came out that Lenny had recorded convo’s of Drew’s, he said: “According to Wawczak, Peterson predicted that he would have already been tried and acquitted in Stacy’s disappearance last year by the time police find her remains.”

    I find hope in that statement that her remains can still be located for the family’s sake. There are so many witnesses on that GJ list we will be hearing from in the trial. I agree that the prosecution spent a great deal of time and effort looking at the details in this case. There appears to only be a limited few still standing by DP and then again, who really knows at this point? After learning about Lenny & Paula, does Drew really know anything for sure anymore?

  56. facsmiley :
    Do we know that the 9:00-9:07 calls were placed from the Shorewood area? I don’t recall ever seeing that reported anywhere.
    I know the canal search was reported to be based on cell phone pings, but couldn’t those have been from the 11:30 call from Cass to Drew?

    I believe it was the area of Shorewood because the first searchers and interviews took place around Rossetos house. It was also said in some articles what drove many of to the conclusion that Drew wanted to frame Rossetto.

  57. facsmiley :Do we know that the 9:00-9:07 calls were placed from the Shorewood area? I don’t recall ever seeing that reported anywhere.
    I know the canal search was reported to be based on cell phone pings, but couldn’t those have been from the 11:30 call from Cass to Drew?

    Good point, Facs.

  58. cyrhla :

    facsmiley :
    Do we know that the 9:00-9:07 calls were placed from the Shorewood area? I don’t recall ever seeing that reported anywhere.
    I know the canal search was reported to be based on cell phone pings, but couldn’t those have been from the 11:30 call from Cass to Drew?

    I believe it was the area of Shorewood because the first searchers and interviews took place around Rossetos house. It was also said in some articles what drove many of to the conclusion that Drew wanted to frame Rossetto.

    They could still have been referring to the 11:30 call as far as the framing goes.
    Anyway, who knows exactly where Stacy’s phone was when the 9:07 call was answered. Let’s assume it was in Drew’s possesion. He could have been at Clow airport in order to back up the story that Stacy left her car there. He could have been en route from or to Shorewood, near Romeoville..anywhere really.

  59. Cyrhla @ #71- the first searches were in Shorewood because, if you will recall, TMorphey told LE of Drew’s prior scheme to make Rossetto look like a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance. Not necessarily because of phone pings. Rossetto was the one that Drew wanted the cops to question right from the get-go. Also, if you will also recall, I believe there were text messages that were sent between Stacy and Rossetto.

  60. Facs, but Tom Morphey said it took Drew 45 minutes to come back after the phone rang. So it does not matter in fact where Drew was.

  61. We could Internet-sleuth and debate til the cows come home, but it’s really just a mental exercise. I’m willing to accept that there are details we just don’t know and won’t know–although of course I’m curious and want to know how it all went down.

    As Rescue pointed out, the investigation has been going on for a long time now and with 800+ witnesses it looks like they’ve followed up on many a lead. I can’t imagine how much paperwork there is now!

  62. rescueapet :
    Cyrhla @ #71- the first searches were in Shorewood because, if you will recall, TMorphey told LE of Drew’s prior scheme to make Rossetto look like a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance. Not necessarily because of phone pings. Rossetto was the one that Drew wanted the cops to question right from the get-go. Also, if you will also recall, I believe there were text messages that were sent between Stacy and Rossetto.

    I agree with you, it might have been the reason (Tom told them about the area). Absolutely.

  63. rescueapet :

    Cyrhla @ #71- the first searches were in Shorewood because, if you will recall, TMorphey told LE of Drew’s prior scheme to make Rossetto look like a suspect in Stacy’s disappearance. Not necessarily because of phone pings. Rossetto was the one that Drew wanted the cops to question right from the get-go. Also, if you will also recall, I believe there were text messages that were sent between Stacy and Rossetto.

    Excellent points and further supports that there is no reason to assume that the “pocket dial” answered call was placed from Shorewood.

  64. cfs7360 :
    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.witness.2.952042.html

    Not only that, police sources allege Morphey assisted Peterson in a scheme to set cell phone towers pinging near the home of her friend Scott Rossetto, a male nurse living in Shorewood. The sources said they suspected Peterson was trying to frame Rossetto for doing away with Stacy.
    Peterson is believed to have left his cell phone with Morphey in Bolingbrook, then went to Shorewood with Stacy’s cell phone. Peterson is alleged to have called his own cell with Stacy’s from Shorewood to leave a record of the call, sources said.

    This is one source. Glasgows statement in closing arguments eludes to that fact as well.

    Glasgow said two calls rang unanswered, but a 9:07 p.m. call was accidentally picked up by Morphey, who by then had placed the phone in his coat pocket. Prosecutors allege Peterson, who was trying to frame a Shorewood man, was then forced to concoct a story about what his wife said.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-drew-peterson-0224-20100223,0,7782561.story . The call from Cass to Drews had to do with the search near the canal you are correct.

  65. Let’s leave Shorewood behind. Drew could have been even at home or at Tailgators at that time ;).
    What I had on my mind was not the Shorewood area as the location of the calls but those 45 minutes Tom was talking about after the last call for Drew to return. If we add other things which happened before 9:45, it does not make sense to me.

  66. I guess I’m just not getting it. What was Drew reported to be doing in those minutes between 9:07 and 9:45 that doesn’t make sense?

    You mean picking up Tom and taking him to his house where they move the container? If the times are correct I’d have to assume that Drew was nearby when the calls were placed. Or that someone else had Stacy’s phone. I imagine either thing is possible.

  67. I think it does not make sense because if the phone rang at 9:07 and Tom said Drew came back after 45 minutes after that, Tom could not have been at Martineck’s house at 9:45; the more that in the meantime he helped Drew move the barrel and need some time to return home.

  68. I’m just going to repost this stuff and then I’m done. It’s not up to me to find the “sense” in what’s been reported. 😉

    Martinek said that Peterson dropped Morphey off at his house after they put the barrel into Peterson’s SUV. It was then, about 9:45 p.m., that Martinek said Morphey called, asking if he could come to Martinek’s home to talk.

    “His eyes were sunken in the back of his head,” Martinek told TODAY co-host Meredith Vieira in describing Morphey’s appearance at his home shortly before 11 p.m. on Oct. 28.

    “He took me by the shoulders, told me I can’t say anything. He told me that he thinks he helped dispose of Stacy’s body. What he told me [was] when he had helped Drew take something out of the house, it was warm to the touch,” Martinek said.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22039495/ns/today_people/

    But he also said…

    “In an interview, Martineck expanded on a prior Tribune report detailing the relative’s alleged activities the night Stacy Peterson disappeared. Martineck said he was at home Oct. 28 watching the World Series. “He called me and said, ‘I gotta talk to you,'” Martineck said. “It was late, around 10 o’clock. I remember it was the 7th inning. I told him, ‘OK, come to the garage door.'”

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2007/nov/30/news/chi-peterson_30_no2nov30

    Morphey said he paced back and forth in the dark, wondering, “Is he killing someone?” About 45 minutes later the phone rang. Then it rang again. Both times, the caller ID showed “Stacy’s cell,”

    Peterson returned to the park within an hour of the phone calls, Morphey said, and Drew insisted he help him “at the house moving something.”

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1468257,Peterson-stepbrother-talks_jo030909.article

    Peterson’s stepbrother Thomas Morphey testified that Peterson dropped him off at Remington Lakes park in Bolingbrook that night, handing Morphey Drew Peterson’s cell phone and telling him not to answer it.

    Glasgow said two calls rang unanswered, but a 9:07 p.m. call was accidentally picked up by Morphey, who by then had placed the phone in his coat pocket. Prosecutors allege Peterson, who was trying to frame a Shorewood man, was then forced to concoct a story about what his wife said.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-drew-peterson-0224-20100223,0,7782561.story

  69. rescueapet :
    Argh!!!!
    Cyrhla – spill it. Lay it all out for me, cuz I’m not getting what you are trying to say. Please.

    Sorry, I did my best. I am not a native speaker.

  70. It sounds to me also that Tom is just estimating the time frame. Neither he nor Walter seemed to be going by clocks.

  71. Well, I have no clue what Glasgow was getting at in his closing argument regarding the accidental call. If anyone else KNOWS what that means, hey, I’m willing to listen.

    Did he mean Tom picked up the call out of curiosity, after hearing it ring 2x prior? Or, did he mean, he never heard it ring, but somehow managed to connect with the caller on the other end by accidentally hitting the green (answer) button?

    At this point, it’s all one big mystery.

  72. givarat :

    It sounds to me also that Tom is just estimating the time frame. Neither he nor Walter seemed to be going by clocks.

    Agreed. The only times that can really be confirmed are the phone calls and we don’t know who placed them or where they originated from. Of course, we have our guesses.

    It’s hard to ignore the fact that Drew says Stacy called him at 9:00 and Tom says he was standing in a park holding a phone Drew gave him, that rang several times and showed “Stacy” as the caller. Also interesting that Drew says his conversation with Stacy was about four minutes and that there is a record of a call of that length.

  73. rescueapet :
    Well, I have no clue what Glasgow was getting at in his closing argument regarding the accidental call. If anyone else KNOWS what that means, hey, I’m willing to listen.
    Did he mean Tom picked up the call out of curiosity, after hearing it ring 2x prior? Or, did he mean, he never heard it ring, but somehow managed to connect with the caller on the other end by accidentally hitting the green (answer) button?
    At this point, it’s all one big mystery.

    I’m taking it at face value since Glasgow states it’s a miracle that the phone was answered by Morphy. For T.M. never gave any account of that 3rd call that lasted 4 minutes. Obviously the phone records show different. There were 3 and not 2. So I think it says that he answered it unaware without hearing a ring just as the call came in. Heres another link about the phone calls originating from Shorewood.

    To date, the investigation has shown that one of Stacy Peterson’s last known cell phone calls was made in the Shorewood area, sources say. Investigators speculate that Drew Peterson actually made that phone call from Shorewood in an attempt to frame Rossetto as the killer. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932127/posts

  74. Well, there we are back in Shorewood again.

    Let’s hope that Drew is eventually charged with Stacy’s murder and we can see how this all plays out on the stand.

  75. Cyrhla, I admire you tremendously. For all your not being a ‘native speaker’ I think you do a remarkable job. There is no way on this green earth that I could conduct the sleuthing, the questions, the explanations that you do in English. I’ve seen you say this before, that English is not your native language. Good grief, girl! Get yourself to the U.N as a translator! Your command of ‘our’ language is as good as it gets, and about 100% better than some of those who were raised with it.
    Just wanted to say thanks, and that I enjoy your posts. 🙂
    (If you hadn’t said anything, I never would have known, BTW).

  76. rescueapet :Well, I have no clue what Glasgow was getting at in his closing argument regarding the accidental call. If anyone else KNOWS what that means, hey, I’m willing to listen.
    Did he mean Tom picked up the call out of curiosity, after hearing it ring 2x prior? Or, did he mean, he never heard it ring, but somehow managed to connect with the caller on the other end by accidentally hitting the green (answer) button?
    At this point, it’s all one big mystery.

    Do they ever mention if Tom had a cell phone that night? (His in one pocket; Drew’s in another) I’ve also had numerous calls coming in from friends who have somehow pushed a cell phone button in their pocket and accidentally dialed my number. In pulling a phone out of a pocket to look, could one easily answer it? Maybe Tom panicked a little bit, or simply there was Divine intervention. Again, it will be interesting to see how all of the puzzle pieces fit together at the trial.

  77. Oh-Thank you for the fundraiser information, Facs, and Rescue, thank you for addressing the wood-chipping. I had never heard anything else about that except on GretaWire, and it had bugged me all this time.

  78. I’m thinking that Cyrhla is just confused with the time frame that is given by T.M. and Martineck. Which is understandable. Given those times things just don’t come together. So we are left with 2 choices. One is to discount T.M.’s story altogether, or the other is that somehow all the events took place and the time frame is just off or estimated. Shorewood is very close and so is Drews and the Park and where Morphy was living. Someday I’m going to drive the route and tell you how long it takes.

  79. OK – here’s a revised timline that adds in the testimony we heard at the hearsay hearings as well as the call that was pocket-answered. Bullet lists don’t work in the comments so I’ve worked around it. I’ll replace the one in the documents with this version unless anyone sees an error.

    A Tom Morphey Timeline.
    Compiled using statements by Tom Morphey, his friend Walter Martineck, investigators and State’s Attorney, James Glasgow.

    October 27:

    – Drew Peterson shows up at Thomas Morphey’s home (Peterson claims he was taking Morphey to a nearby Meijer store to interview for job. The Meijer manager has testified that Morphey had no appointment for an interview)

    – Peterson drives Morphey to the Remington Lakes Park.

    – Peterson discusses his wife Stacy with Morphey. Peterson says that Stacy is cheating on him and states he has to take care of the problem. He asks Morphey if he loves him enough to kill for him. Morphey says that he loves him but that he couldn’t live with himself if he killed someone. Peterson asks if he could live with knowing about it. Morphey says that he always assumed Peterson had killed Kathleen. Peterson discusses Morphey driving Stacy’s car to Shorewood, where her friend Scott Rossetto resides, and leaving the car with the keys in the ashtray in an attempt to lead the cops there. They also discuss Morphey renting a storage unit where a body can be hidden in a sealed container for six months or so until it is safe to move it.

    – Peterson drives him to storage facility in Romeoville where Morphey attempts to rent a unit, but lacks the required State ID.

    – Peterson drives Morphey home.

    – A few hours later Morphey calls Peterson and says he can’t be involved in Peterson’s plan. Peterson says he can respect that.

    October 28:

    – Peterson shows up at Morphey’s home. They get coffee at a Starbucks drive-through and then Peterson drives him to a park off Weber Road.

    – Peterson hands Morphey a cell phone, instructing him not to answer it.
    Forty-five minutes later the phone rings and then rings again. The caller ID shows “Stacy”. Morphey does not answer the calls.
    – – 09:04 PM there’s a call from Stacy’s to Drew’s phone (1 min)
    – – 09:05 PM there’s a call from Stacy’s to Drew’s phone (1 min)

    – The phone rings once more but the phone is in Morphey’s pocket and he answers it inadvertently
    – – 09:07 PM there’s a call from Stacy’s to Drew’s phone (5 min)

    – Within an hour of the calls Peterson returns to the park and picks up Morphey. He asks Morphey to help him move something.

    – They drive to Peterson’s house where the childrens’ bedroom doors are closed and Peterson tells him to be quiet. Peterson pushes a large, warm, sealed blue container out of his bedroom. Morphey helps Peterson carry the container down the stairs, out of the house and into the Denali.

    – Peterson then drives Morphey home and tells him “This never happened.”

    – At some point Peterson gives Morphey some money.

    – At about 9:45-10:00 Morphey calls his friend, Walter Martineck, and says he needs to talk.

    – Shortly before 11:00 Morphey visits Martineck and tells him that he thinks he has just helped dispose of Stacy’s body.

    October 29:

    – Morphey speaks to Peterson on the phone and tells him that he wants to hang himself. Peterson tells him not to worry.

    – That night Morphey begins drinking and calls a brother who advises him to speak to the FBI. Morphey hangs up and overdoses on prescription pills. The brother calls 911. Morphey is taken to the Edward Hospital in Naperville.

    October 30:

    – Peterson shows up at Morphey’s house. Morphey’s girlfriend answers the door. She tells him about Morphey’s suicide attempt. Peterson drives to the hospital and speaks with Morphey. (Morphey doesn’t recollect the visit very well.)

    – Martineck arrives at Morphey’s house and drives Sheryl Alcox (Morphey’s girlfriend) to District 5 State Police Headquarters in Crest Hill

    – State police show up at the hospital after Peterson leaves.

    October 31:

    – Tom Morphey is offered an immunity deal by Will County State’s Attorney, James Glasgow.

    – At some point after this Peterson phones Morphey and orders him not to talk to the press or the police, and warns him about discussing things on the phone. This call is recorded by the ISP.

  80. It takes 18-20 minutes to get from BB to Shorewood, givarat ;).

    And that is exactly what you said above about my confusion.
    I started thinking more about the timetable after I learned Stacy’s car was seen in the nearby street around 6 – 6:30 pm. and that the police was called by people who saw a suspicious man there.

  81. – At some point after this Peterson phones Morphey and orders him not to talk to the press or the police, and warns him about discussing things on the phone. This call is recorded by the ISP.

    Holy Smokes! I never heard this before. No wonder they obtained search warrants so quickly.

  82. Maybe what the States Attorney means by that last phone call being a miracle (from Stacy’s to Drews phone) is that this call was (inadvertently) answered by Morphey, thereby placing Stacy’s phone in the Shorewood area but Drews phone nowhere near where Drew was at the time as Drews phone was in Morpheys back pocket in Bolingbrook (!!)

    Looks like Drew was caught out again in another big fat lie and another alibi blown to smithereens !!

  83. justanotherhen :
    Maybe what the States Attorney means by that last phone call being a miracle (from Stacy’s to Drews phone) is that this call was (inadvertently) answered by Morphey, thereby placing Stacy’s phone in the Shorewood area but Drews phone nowhere near where Drew was at the time as Drews phone was in Morpheys back pocket in Bolingbrook (!!)
    Looks like Drew was caught out again in another big fat lie and another alibi blown to smithereens !!

    Your right JAH. If nothing else it shows DP lied again in my opinion also. I wonder what he told ISP about the first 2 calls that were made without him answering? Think about that one.

  84. Could we start calling “Drew’s Law” the Murdered Witness Law? Or anyone have any other ideas?

    …and apologies to Joe…the last article does say “marital assets” 😉

  85. bucket: (snip)
    and apologies to Joe…the last article does say “marital assets

    ~~~~
    yeah, I noticed that, too. 😉

  86. I’m wondering why dp would claim to be at home when the calls came in from Stacys phone, when he knew his phone was not at the house. Is Remington Lakes Park
    the park just down the street, west in the neighborhood? It’s not marked on Google maps and I couldn’t locate it around Bolingbrook.

  87. “He’d leave the container there for six months until the smoke cleared and then he’d dispose of it,” Morphey said, and “If something happened to him, if he had a heart attack, to dump it in the canal.”

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/2004329,Peterson-hearsay-day2-stepbro-JO012110.article

    So if “plan A” didn’t work out due to Morphy not having his proper I.D. to rent the storage unit, and possibly dp went with “plan B” himself. I wonder if Morphy recalls seeing something like a cordless drill in the back of the Denali? An “airtight” container will float, whereas a weighted sealed container with holes drilled in it would allow for gases to be released while the contents stay put.

  88. ruger44 :I’m wondering why dp would claim to be at home when the calls came in from Stacys phone, when he knew his phone was not at the house. Is Remington Lakes Parkthe park just down the street, west in the neighborhood? It’s not marked on Google maps and I couldn’t locate it around Bolingbrook.

    ~~~~

    it’s located near Veterans Parkway & Remington Rd near an industrial park called
    Winlakes E of Weber Rd & W of Veterans Pkwy.

  89. writerofwrongs :

    ruger44 :I’m wondering why dp would claim to be at home when the calls came in from Stacys phone, when he knew his phone was not at the house. Is Remington Lakes Parkthe park just down the street, west in the neighborhood? It’s not marked on Google maps and I couldn’t locate it around Bolingbrook.

    ~~~~
    it’s located near Veterans Parkway & Remington Rd near an industrial park called
    Winlakes E of Weber Rd & W of Veterans Pkwy.

    Ok, thanks but the only park I see is the one with the “back to back” Baseball diamonds on Remington Rd. Is that it? If so,, like I was saying before, it appears it would “ping” from a different cell tower than if dp were at home when the calls came in from Stacys phone.

  90. Sorry, the day before Stacy disappeared Morpehy says Drew drove him to the Remington Lakes Sport Complex. The next night Morphey says he was driven to a “park off Weber Road”.

  91. writerofwrongs :bucket: (snip)and apologies to Joe…the last article does say “marital assets
    ~~~~yeah, I noticed that, too.

    Writer, Bucket & All – I actually wrote Mr. Hosey last week about that detail and received a nice response. Wonder if he might have heard from others, too?.. 🙂
    We love Joe Hosey, don’t we?

  92. Financial Abuse in Marriage
    Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010

    Anna Quindlen wrote a gripping novel a few years ago about a woman who tries to escape from her husband who is abusing her. Because her husband is a cop, she fears he will find her with the same techniques he uses in his detective work.

    The case of Drew Peterson, a policeman in Bollingbrook, Illinois, is still under investigation in the disappearance of his fourth wife Stacy. His third wife, whose body was dug up for further testing, showed signs of homicide. Relatives of his previous wives tell police he abused them. Peterson says he loves his wife and pleads with her to return. Authorities have never located Stacy’s body. No one has heard from her.

    One of the earliest signs of future abusive behavior is financial control. A husband controls the purse strings, refusing to share financial information with his wife but expecting that she account for every choice and every penny spent.

    Many women suffer in silence, telling themselves that their husband’s controlling behavior is a personality quirk.They may still have access to joint finances, reasonable mobility and buying choices. They are frustrated by their husband’s attitude and behavior, but they don’t live with a gnawing sense of fear…

    …On the other hand, you may not know that your neighbor, acquaintance or friend is a financial hostage because she won’t tell you. You may know her husband, and never suspect a thing. He’s not out of control or under the influence of drugs or alcohol. We might label his behavior difficult, eccentric or unpleasant, but we don’t intervene…

    http://www.phonienews.com/1729/financial-abuse-in-marriage/

    Especially in light of our “marital assets” discussions, this is very good reading.

    Author’s web site: http://www.financialintimacy.com/

  93. March 2, 2010 at 8:38 am | #117
    Quote

    ruger44 :I’m wondering why dp would claim to be at home when the calls came in from Stacys phone, when he knew his phone was not at the house.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s why he had Thomas Morphey sit close to his home in the park off Weber Road in order for him to be perceived to be at home and to create distance between his own phone and Stacy’s phone by having Stacy’s phone in the Shorewood area near her supposed “boyfriend” Scott Rossetto.

    That was very sneaky but it didn’t work as we know now Drews phone was in Morpheys pocket when Stacy supposedly spoke to Drew about her running away with another man, so it was physically impossible for that conversation to have ever taken place !

  94. facs: thanks for the great links. It’s so true that the way a person relates to money is how this same person will relate toward love.

  95. Hey all, just wanted to clear up any misunderstanding there may have been about a comment I made last night which mentioned a number of people we had heard from over the last few days.

    Just to make it clear, we did hear from George Lenard but he was only requesting that we add some information to his bio on the Who’s Who page. He wasn’t asking for any sort of information.

    We let him know that promoting the defense team is not in keeping with the mission of this blog and declined his request.

  96. ROFL!! What cheek!!! There’s another expression that’s uber-cheek, and that’s “neck” or even worse “brass neck.” As in he’s got some brass neck.

  97. Is that what that means? There’s a line in a song that says “Now when I’m very bad and answer back and sass Then I’m Mama’s little devil, and Papa says I’ve got the brass”. I was never sure where that originated.

    Why he thought we’d be interested in padding his bio is a mystery to me. 🙂

  98. That’s really funny!
    It’s also totally par for the course with this crew. Give a thought to what’s on here about his client and co-counsel and then contemplate his totally self-seeking response. These people really do seem to be made for one another.

  99. ROBINSON MICHAEL 3 8 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 3 Pretrial
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 3 8 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL 1 Pretrial
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 3 8 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL 2 Pretrial
    Is Joe H. going to cover this one?

  100. I was thinking about something. When the Judge makes his ruling, pretty much one side or the other is not going to like his decision. If the State wasn’t as successful as they’d like, I assume they’d go ahead with their case based on the circumstantial evidence they have gathered. Don’t really know what they’d do as far as appealing the Judge’s ruling.

    If the defense is not happy with the ruling, they’ve already said they’ll appeal. Maybe the Judge’s ruling can be kept under seal, but I sure wonder how a potential future appeal on his ruling, whatever it is, is going to be kept quiet. Wouldn’t that pretty much spill the beans? I mean, just how much can be hidden from the public (media) in this regard?

  101. Just to make it clear, we did hear from George Lenard but he was only requesting that we add some information to his bio on the Who’s Who page. He wasn’t asking for any sort of information.

    Facs,
    Think he’s got us bookmarked? Hmm…is there a “Not so Favorite”? So we know he reads us-wonder if he takes notes.
    Laughing out loud to NoWay and Givarat. Priceless.

  102. Rescue – I have never understood how that is going to work. Do you think Ms. Conti might be able to explain?

  103. BTW, the emails we got from Dr. Dan Budenz were just spam about downloading his book. We declined those requests as well.

    We’re all about full disclosure!

    Even George Lenard understands and appreciates that and as we came to an understanding wrote “I do not expect you to add to my bio. I understand that your purpose is not to promote the defense team, but to only publish what is the truth.”

    All’s well that ends well.

  104. Is there a timetable for what the thing did and where he went following the moving of the blue container?

  105. writerofwrongs :

    Is there a timetable for what the thing did and where he went following the moving of the blue container?

    https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/timeline/

    Drew’s version:

    9 p.m. – Drew is at home when he receives a call from Stacy informing him she is leaving with another man.

    9:15 p.m. – Drew leaves to go look for Stacy.

    11-11:30 p.m. – Drew returns home as Cassandra Cales calls him looking for her sister. Drew tells her Stacy had left him and took clothes, money and her passport.

    11:45 p.m. – Drew walks to the airport to drive Stacy’s car back home.

    Midnight – Drew goes to bed.

    2:30 a.m. – Bolingbrook police call Drew to inform him that Cassandra Cales has filed a missing persons report for Stacy.

  106. Even George Lenard understands and appreciates that and as we came to an understanding wrote “I do not expect you to add to my bio. I understand that your purpose is not to promote the defense team, but to only publish what is the truth.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does that mean George Lenard is saying the Defense Team doesn’t tell the truth or am I not reading that right ??

  107. justanotherhen :

    Even George Lenard understands and appreciates that and as we came to an understanding wrote “I do not expect you to add to my bio. I understand that your purpose is not to promote the defense team, but to only publish what is the truth.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Does that mean George Lenard is saying the Defense Team doesn’t tell the truth or am I not reading that right ??

    I think he was just acknowledging that he understands while we strive to tell the truth, going beyond that (as in padding out his bio on the Who’s Who page to include extraneous information about him) isn’t in keeping with the goals of this blog.

    The thing he took issue with had nothing to do with the Who’s Who however. It was a missing comma in a comment I made. The way it was written made Lenard think that he was being grouped in with someone else who had emailed asking for information about the case. We could understand his concerns with that (although I don’t think most people would have read it the way he did). No biggie. we removed the comment.

  108. As I’d written him to complain, I also wrote to thank Joe Hosey when he changed his language describing marital assets, and his response confirmed every nice thought I’ve had about the man, “Thanks for writing. I just want to say my prior use of words was unintentional. Thanks for setting me straight. – Joe”

  109. Hi everyone. I have to admit, the quiet is a good thing, for a change.

    But, we need the lurkers, the ones that have eyes and ears about little tidbits here and there, to post and fill us in on what’s happening. We know you’re out there.

    🙂

  110. Today is the ten month mark for Drew Peterson being held in the Will County Jail.

    Facs- Still can’t access anything on the Brodsky & Odeh old site link. Abood’s link to them doesn’t work either. Seems like a long time to have a site down, or at least not to post an “underconstruction” notice. IMO

  111. An article today bringing the question of hearsay into the Lisa Stebic case, with comparisons being made to the Drew Peterson cases. Lenard, who serves on Peterson’s defense team, as well as representing Craig Stebic, is quoted in the article.

    From hearsay to testimony
    Lisa Stebic’s husband is the only suspect is her disappearance. Could his alleged threats be used against him?

    March 7, 2010

    By JANET LUNDQUIST jlundquist@stmedianetwork.com
    PLAINFIELD — People said a lot of bad things about Drew Peterson after his fourth wife went missing.

    The same thing happened to Craig Stebic, whose wife Lisa vanished in April 2007.”

    Read more at :

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/plainfieldsun/news/2088196,4_1_JO07_STEBIC_S1-100307.article

  112. “If that law is ultimately held to be constitutional, it can be applied in any criminal case,” Lenard said. “Because anybody can come in off the street and say, ‘Yes, I had contact with so and so and they told me this.’ And that’s the danger of that law.”

    Wow. I guess George Lenard hasn’t read the hearsay exception, or else he just doesn’t understand it, which is a pretty bad position for someone on the defense team to be in.

    The exception allows hearsay statements from someone who was killed in order to prevent them from testifying. So it would appear that Lenard is actually warning us that the “danger” in this law is going to come from the dead rising and walking the earth. 🙂

    So did he really mean to say something so stupid, or is he intentionally saying something that is untrue to the press? Tsk. Tsk.

  113. Human bones found Sunday at Barrington-area forest preserve
    Lake County officials discovered human bones Sunday afternoon at a wooded area near Barrington.
    Crews continue to search the area, between the Grassy Lake Forest Preserve and Flint Creek Wildlife Rehabilitation area for more of the skeleton, Lake County Coroner Richard Keller said Monday morning. The skeleton wasn’t intact, and Keller said it may take “a while” before an official identification of the body is made.
    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=364355

  114. Good point, Facs.

    But, this defense’s job is to treat most anyone in their earshot as unthinking zombies, and, hopefully, catch the one or two they need on the jury who aren’t self-thinkers. The thing is, if the hearsay does wind up in the trial, it means the trial judge heard prior testimony and ruled in accordance with the law, and ruled as to the credibility of each witness to whom a statement was applied to.

    Are we really to believe that we Illinoisans are now going to be able to make up false accusations against someone we want to see criminally prosecuted merely for the hell of it? Or, that if we Illinoisans happen to have been told by someone they feared for their lives at the hands of someone, and that person was later found to be a victim of a horrendous crime, we’re lying if we come forward?

    Or, are we to just assume that any judge that has the duty that Judge White has in this Peterson case is a numbskull that is in on the mob mentality it takes to bring criminal charges against someone and bring a conviction?

    Isn’t it mysterious that Peterson is being victimized by most everyone in his life just for their own satisfaction of seeing him rot away in jail for the rest of his life? If he was such a good guy, help-anyone-out kind of person, all around buddy, then why are we watching his attorneys call most everyone he surrounded himself with liars, druggies, drunks and thieves? Doesn’t fit, does it? Why are these people lying?

  115. Just a reminder for the ignorant boobs who keep saying that Public Act 095-1004 allows people “to walk in off the street” and offer hearsay.

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=095-1004

    Sec. 115-10.6. Hearsay exception for intentional murder of a witness.

    (a) A statement is not rendered inadmissible by the hearsay rule if it is offered against a party that has killed the declarant in violation of clauses (a)(1) and (a)(2) of Section 9-1 of the Criminal Code of 1961 intending to procure the unavailability of the declarant as a witness in a criminal or civil proceeding.

    (b) While intent to procure the unavailability of the witness is a necessary element for the introduction of the statements, it need not be the sole motivation behind the murder which procured the unavailability of the declarant as a witness.

    (c) The murder of the declarant may, but need not, be the subject of the trial at which the statement is being offered. If the murder of the declarant is not the subject of the trial at which the statement is being offered, the murder need not have ever been prosecuted.

    So…until and unless a zombie invasion begins, the only hearsay this act allows is that of a witness who can shown to have been murdered: Not people who can “come in off the street”. Dead people.

  116. “Why is it that so many people from varied backgrounds… all seem to be saying that his wives told them that he was likely to kill them?” said Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodksy. “I think it’s almost like, call it a mob effect, a lynch mob effect. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon because they want a result.”

    What a ridiculous way with words. Of course the “varied” witnesses all seemed to be saying the same thing. It’s because they were told the same things by two Peterson wives. Of course they want to jump on the “bandwagon” because they want a result. Except they don’t want the same result the defense wants. The only “mob” mentality in all of this is the one created in the mind, which comes out of the mouth, of Brodsky. Which I sincerely doubt will have much meaning where it’s really going to count, and that’s not in the media.

  117. Aw, here, let me get the ball rolling. Google is your friend. Just ask the defense. It was their friend in one of their motions.

    http://hamptonroads.com/node/320201

    In his defense, McEntee claimed ignorance of most of his company’s operations and said he relied on others to help him manage his business.

    Chief among those was Clinton Van Nocker, who acted as the company’s main mortgage broker and financial consultant. Van Nocker was convicted of bank fraud in the 1990s for his role in a Hampton Roads housing scam.

  118. Okay, then. Now, I believe Mr. Van Nocker is attending law school, although I am quite confused on how someone that is a convicted felon can be allowed to obtain a law license and practice law.

    But, nonetheless, I find it quite comical, amusing, that Mr. Brodsky & Company have sliced, diced, character assassinated and verbally degraded almost every witness that has come out against Drew Peterson because of things they may have done in their past, when they have found it in their hearts to let a convicted felon participate in the defense of their client. I mean, it’s their business, and Peterson’s, who he has on his team, but, isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black? Hmmm? Four years in prison? Oh, boy.

  119. NORFOLK — They once hobnobbed with the elite of Hampton Roads. But Friday in federal court, the owners of MSRV Development Inc. wore leg irons and were described by prosecutors as “economic predators of the worst kind.”

    The three owners, Jacques McEntee, Marie Elana Roland and Clinton Van Nocker, were arrested after they turned themselves in to the FBI Friday morning. They were charged, along with two others, with bank fraud and money laundering in what federal authorities have described as the largest housing scam in Hampton Roads.

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-68422636.html

    Two previously unmentioned people — Timothy McCarthy and Clinton Charles Van Nocker — have been granted daily, face-to-face access to Peterson, according to an order signed by Judge Kinney. Peterson remains in the Will County jail since his May 7 arrest for Savio’s murder.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/drew-peterson-joel-brodsky-kathleen-savio-bolingbrook-will-county-court-bond-bail.html

    Well OK, the guy has paid his debt to society and is trying to get a fresh start. I can accept that. But bearing in mind the public character-assassination that the defense team has taken part in, it’s a little hard to be aware of such a situation and to not want to open some eyes to it.

  120. But, when the defense team speaks, we’re supposed to take their words as credible why again?

    One’s been suspended from practicing law for months for signing a dead person’s name to a check, one is awaiting discipline for neglecting to properly advise his clients of a plea arrangement, and now we have a convicted felon in law school, helping to work on the defense of Drew Peterson. How come they can make mistakes, lose their way, and fall down, yet, be taken for their word, but anyone who testifies again Drew Peterson is part of a “lynch mob” (Brodsky’s words), jumping on the bandwagon that wants justice for two dead women?

    Huh?

  121. rescueapet :

    “Why is it that so many people from varied backgrounds… all seem to be saying that his wives told them that he was likely to kill them?” said Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodksy. “I think it’s almost like, call it a mob effect, a lynch mob effect. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon because they want a result.”

    What a ridiculous way with words. Of course the “varied” witnesses all seemed to be saying the same thing. It’s because they were told the same things by two Peterson wives. Of course they want to jump on the “bandwagon” because they want a result. Except they don’t want the same result the defense wants. The only “mob” mentality in all of this is the one created in the mind, which comes out of the mouth, of Brodsky. Which I sincerely doubt will have much meaning where it’s really going to count, and that’s not in the media.

    You took the words right out of my mouth Rescue. I don’t think a jury is going to buy it. That same jury will also be accused of jumping on that same bandwagon when they turn in their guilty verdict and the defense goes for an appeal.

  122. “If that law is ultimately held to be constitutional, it can be applied in any criminal case,” Lenard said. “Because anybody can come in off the street and say, ‘Yes, I had contact with so and so and they told me this.’ And that’s the danger of that law.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If that is George Lenards interpretation of the Hearsay Law, then we shouldn’t be too worried about their appeal to the Supreme Court re it’s constitutionality – LOL !

  123. rescueapet :But, when the defense team speaks, we’re supposed to take their words as credible why again?
    One’s been suspended from practicing law for months for signing a dead person’s name to a check, one is awaiting discipline for neglecting to properly advise his clients of a plea arrangement, and now we have a convicted felon in law school, helping to work on the defense of Drew Peterson. How come they can make mistakes, lose their way, and fall down, yet, be taken for their word, but anyone who testifies again Drew Peterson is part of a “lynch mob” (Brodsky’s words), jumping on the bandwagon that wants justice for two dead women?
    Huh?

    I am curious about something: surely the thing must be aware of the caliber of legal representation he’s getting; I certainly would if I were him, and he doesn’t seem to care? What’s up w/that. IMHO planning went into the crimes he’s accused of, including which cell towers pinged and who would be the ” patsy du jour ” and so forth and his dream team consists of at least one felon and a few others teetering on the brink of disbarrment and lets not forget king bozo himself, Mr. Chickenwings…and he’s not concerned? Curious, indeed. Maybe he has a backup plan of sorts. Here’s hoping he has no influence in the lockup.

  124. FYI

    A small cache of bones recovered from the Grassy Lake Forest Preserve near North Barrington on Sunday appears to be those of missing businessman Robert Nelson.

    Nelson, a direct-mail executive from the Barrington area, had been missing since Oct. 7…

    …Lake County Sheriff Mark Curran said the wedding ring found was identified by Nelson’s wife as belonging to her husband. He said a shotgun was found in the area. Keller said it could take some time to match DNA to the missing man…

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/news/2091541,5_1_WA09_BONES_S1-100309.article

  125. Praying this is one of our missing we been looking for!

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/genevasun/news/2093101,Remains-found-in-St-Charles_AU031010.article

    Autopsy set on skeletal remains in St. Charles

    March 10, 2010
    By STEVE LORD AND MATT HANLEY Staff Writers

    ST. CHARLES TOWNSHIP — An autopsy will be performed Wednesday on what are believed to be human remains that were found on the far west side of St. Charles Tuesday afternoon.

    St. Charles police received a call at about 12:45 p.m. Tuesday that someone walking on the Great Western Trail had found bones near the Remington Glen subdivision, along Route 64 west of Randall Road.

    “It’s pretty clear that they’re human remains,” St. Charles Police Chief Jim Lamkin said.

  126. Officers discovered some clothing near the bones, police said, but they would not release any more details about the clothing.

    Hope this will help them identify the victim quicker!

  127. All I have to say is heartfelt sympathy to any family that has to “hope” that skeletal remains might be their missing loved one.

    It can happen in anyone’s family, young person, elderly person, and in-between. Those of us who don’t walk in their shoes can only support the ones that have to endure findings of remains to wonder if it’s “news” they’ve been waiting for.

    *Sigh*

  128. http://willcountycircuitcourt.com/
    04P 000232 – In Re: PROBATE Estate of Kathleen Savio, Deceased
    PETERSON DREW 3 16 10 RVJC 900 04P 000232 Status
    PETERSON KRISTOPHER 3 16 10 RVJC 900 04P 000232 Status
    PETERSON THOMAS D 3 16 10 RVJC 900 04P 000232 Status

    09L 000326 In Re: Estate of Kathleen Savio, Deceased wrongful death suit
    BRODSKY JOEL ALAN 3 10 10 900 WCCA PETERSON DREW 09L 000326 CIVJ
    PETERSON DREW 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09L 000326 Case
    VARSEK LAWRENCE E. 3 10 10 900 WCCA SAVIO HENRY J 09L 000326 CIVJ
    SAVIO HENRY J 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09L 000326 Case

    09MR000648 – COUNTRY MUTUAL INSURANCE vs. Drew Peterson, Henry Savio,
    PETERSON DREW 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09MR000648 Motions
    SAVIO HENRY J 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09MR000648 Prove-Up
    SAVIO KATHLEEN 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09MR000648 Prove-Up
    DOMAN ANNA M 3 10 10 WCCA 900 09MR000648 Prove-Up

    http://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/home/DailyCal/0.htm
    1:09-cv-06746 – Peterson v. JPMorgan Chase Bank NA – HELOC Loan

    Honorable Ronald A. Guzman Courtroom 1219 (RAG)
    1:09-cv-06746 Peterson v. JPMorgan Chase Bank NA 10:30 Status Hearing

    Honorable Nan R. Nolan Courtroom 1858 (NRN)
    1:09-cv-06746 Peterson v. JPMorgan Chase Bank NA 09:30 Magistrate Status Hearing

  129. What you said, Rescue and Q4U. John Spira was in a band that played at Drew and Kitty’s bar. Small world. I recall his wife wasn’t in a hurry to report him missing, but I read that on a blog. A big banner was put up asking for help to find him and someone tore it down.

  130. Thanks Judgin’. Busy day, eh? And he’s going to have to face Henry Savio. More power to you, Henry.

  131. bucketoftea :What you said, Rescue and Q4U. John Spira was in a band that played at Drew and Kitty’s bar. Small world. I recall his wife wasn’t in a hurry to report him missing, but I read that on a blog. A big banner was put up asking for help to find him and someone tore it down.

    Was the cable co. Spira worked for the same one that Peterson worked at? Maybe prosecutors should check this out.

  132. Grandam, John Spira co-owned Universal Cable Construction in West Chicago.

    Drew and Ric Mims both worked part-time for AmeriCable in Downers Grove in 2003. I’m not sure if that is the same company that Jeffrey Pachter and William Green also worked for but I would guess it was, since it was July 2003 that Pachter says Drew asked him to arrange the hit on Kathleen.

    At this point in the investigation, you really do have to imagine that investigators have looked for any connections between these cases.

  133. The little bit I read is interesting, for lack of a better term. The judge didn’t speak as though he bought the defense’s theory, but, on the other hand, he wanted to give them a shot at proving it by having the State turn over their notes, etc. In other words, he wanted the defense to have the advantage of proving their case by show and tell at the State’s expense.

    Wow. Just wow. No wonder he was overturned. If the defense has a case, let them work it up.

    (The “court” makes its point beginning around page 4.)

  134. That’s so sad. I’m so sorry. It reminds me of the young boy’s remains on the riverbank. I wonder if either one of them had anyone to miss them.

    Thanks for sharing the appeal judgment! 🙂 …and the tip to go to page 4 LOL!

  135. Budenz is now saying (embedded in really bad promotional writing for his book) that he is the one who recommended a media circus and introduced Drew to Glenn Selig.

    Dr. Dan recommended that Drew Peterson Attorney Joel Brodsky obtain and utilize a team that included a publicist and agent in order to protect the family. Dr. Dan introduced Brodsky’s publicist choice, Glen Selig to the Drew Peterson family in one of our Florida safe houses when the family escaped the media over the Holidays of 2007.

    http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=111444

  136. @Facs #185 – I saw that last night, and we seem to share mutual opinions on the quality of the writing, although “bad” is not quite adequate, IMO. Don’t you just love how she assumes we’re asking certain questions? Not. The coup de jour however, is her reference to The Chicago Drews Brothers. Give me a break. They appear to me to be milking everything they can out of Drew’s latest publicity to promote their online therapy package and book, all for the price of this, that, and the other. Personally, I’d much rather spend my money on the “average sized family meal.” Pitiful.

  137. No kidding, CFS. If they’re going to attempt a clever bon mot it has to at least make some sense. “The Drews Brothers”? WTF.

    I have zero sympathy for Drew Peterson, but I wouldn’t wish a leech like Budenz on anyone.

  138. Facsmiley says…..I have zero sympathy for Drew Peterson, but I wouldn’t wish a leech like Budenz on anyone.

    I have to totally agree with your statement, Facs. What a rambling online article that uses Peterson, and now Blagojevich, to promote whatever the hell their downloadable book is supposed to be.

    I have a few “favorite” passages in this latest online folderol, but this one is a ROFLMAO goodie:

    Dr. Dan recommended that Drew Peterson Attorney Joel Brodsky obtain and utilize a team that included a publicist and agent in order to protect the family.

    So, let me see if I’ve got this right. Budenz introduced GLENN (that’s two “n’s” Budenz, for the record) to Brodsky, who got him hooked up with Peterson, all in the hopes of protecting Peterson’s “family” from the big, bad monster they call the media?

    And a fine, fine job he’s done. I see how Peterson sought out the media and became the martyr, with the help of Selig, to shield his family and protect them. It’s taking a while for this to sink in, but, hey, when we’re dealing with pros like Budenz, Selig and Brodsky, it’s hard for us laypeople to figure this all out. Thank heaven Peterson is fortunate enough to have this professional team to help him though this fight for his freedom. Whew. Read all about it for $19. But if you want to shell out a buck short of $400, you can do your own online rehab. What kind of rehab? I don’t know the answer to that.

    I do know, though, that Peterson is still in jail and these guys are trying to profit from knowing him. Way to go

  139. I don’t need to pay $19 to know what to say to my kids if mom went missing.I’d tell them the truth. The truth is free.

  140. http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=365700

    Pathologist in Drew Peterson case dies
    Judge to issue sealed hearsay ruling next week

    By Christy Gutowski | Daily Herald StaffContact writer
    Associated Press
    Published: 3/13/2010 12:01 AM

    The forensic pathologist who conducted the initial autopsy on Drew Peterson’s third wife, whose 2004 drowning was ruled accidental, died this week – three months before the start of the former Bolingbrook sergeant’s trial on charges he murdered Kathleen Savio.

    Dr. Bryan R. Mitchell died Wednesday after a battle with cancer. He was 44.

    Meanwhile, in a sealed written ruling, Will County Judge Stephen White is expected to tell lawyers next week whether more than one dozen hearsay statements prosecutors want to use as evidence against Peterson are reliable enough to be admitted during his upcoming trial.

    In a written statement, Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow on Friday called Mitchell a “consummate professional” whose work aided in the prosecution of many murder cases in the past decade. Mitchell conducted high-profile autopsies in several jurisdictions, including Kane County.

    But it was his March 2, 2004, autopsy on Kathleen Savio that garnered the most attention.

    In his report, Mitchell wrote a 1-inch gash on the scalp of the 40-year-old Bolingbrook woman, who drowned in her bathtub, may have been caused by a slip or fall. He also noted her hair was soaked with blood and she had several small abrasions on her body.

    A Will County coroner’s jury later declared the death “accidental,” after an Illinois State Police official testified there was no sign of foul play, though Savio was in the midst of a bitter divorce battle with Peterson and often accused him of being abusive and threatening.

    Authorities exhumed Savio’s body in November 2007 after Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy, 23, vanished. The pathologists who conducted the second and third autopsies ruled Savio’s death a homicide.

    At a recent pretrial hearing, Dr. Larry Blum testified that in 30 years of conducting more than 9,230 autopsies, he’d never seen an otherwise healthy adult who was not under the influence of alcohol or drugs die such an accidental death.

    Blum gathered more samples, performed more tests – including a standard rape kit not done in the first autopsy – and examined the bathtub where Savio died. He said the position of Savio’s body in the tub made it “highly, highly unlikely” she drowned accidentally. Blum also found that Savio’s body was in the tub when her head wound was inflicted, based on the flow of the blood.

    Still, Blum said: “Dr. Mitchell did a fine autopsy. We weren’t out to discredit him.”

    The defense team, led by attorney Joel Brodsky, planned to call Mitchell during the recent hearsay hearing, but the pathologist was being treated at the Mayo Clinic.

    Jury selection in Peterson’s trial begins June 14. Prosecutors are barred from using Mitchell’s grand jury testimony, since he was not subject to cross examination during the closed-door proceeding, but they are allowed to introduce his autopsy report – which the defense team argues bolsters its case.

    “We actually welcome the introduction of Dr. Mitchell’s autopsy report into evidence because he found the cut on the back of her head was consistent with a slip and fall,” Brodsky said. “Obviously, (Mitchell’s death) presents an issue.

    Juries like to hear from witnesses. But the report is black and white.”

    Judge White’s written ruling regarding the hearsay statements will become public after jury selection is complete, he said. Peterson, 56, maintains his innocence in Savio’s death. He has not been charged with any wrongdoing in Stacy’s 2007 disappearance.

  141. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/2099937,Kathleen-Savio-pathologist-dies_JO031210.article

    Savio pathologist dies

    March 13, 2010

    By TONY GRAF tgraf@stmedianetwork.com
    Dr. Bryan Mitchell, the pathologist who performed autopsies in the death of Kathleen Savio and many other notable cases, has died, Will County authorities have announced.

    Mitchell has been the chief pathologist for the Will County coroner’s office for the past 12 years, said Coroner Patrick K. O’Neil.

    “Dr. Mitchell had performed over 3,000 autopsies for our office and the citizens of Will County during his professional time with us,” O’Neil said.

    “More compassionately known in Will County as Dr. Bryan, he befriended all those who worked in the forensic community to include hospital staff, law enforcement, prosecutors and funeral directors,” O’Neil added.

    “Dr. Mitchell was a consummate professional whose skillful work as a forensic pathologist enabled us to successfully prosecute many murder cases in Will County over the past decade,” said James Glasgow, Will County state’s attorney. “He was a compassionate and insightful colleague, and he will be greatly missed.”

    Glasgow added: “With regard to pending cases in Will County, Illinois statute clearly provides prosecutors with the ability to enter an autopsy protocol at trial in the event of a pathologist’s death.”

    Among thousands of autopsies, Mitchell handled the 2008 shootings at Northern Illinois University, the 2004 Utica tornado and the 1999 Bourbonnais train crash. He traveled to Croatia to examine victims of torture.

    Peterson case

    Mitchell correctly identified Kathleen Savio — the former wife of ex-Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson — as a drowning victim. Both forensic pathologist Dr. Larry Blum and medical examiner Michael Baden determined Savio was the victim of a homicide.

    Peterson is charged with drowning Savio, who was his third wife.

    Dr. Mitchell was also a distinguished member of the Illinois Coroners and Medical Examiners Association, where he developed new guidelines for coroners and medical examiners, O’Neil said. He was also instrumental in designing the new morgue complex in Kankakee County, O’Neil added.

    O’Neil has announced that the funeral arrangements for Mitchell are at the Coglianese Funeral Home, 7508 S. County Line Road in Burr Ridge. Call 630-654-8484, or visit http://www.coglianese.com. Visitation is from 2 to 8 p.m. Sunday. The funeral will be from the funeral home to St. John of the Cross Church with Mass at 9:45 a.m. Monday.

    Expressions of sympathy can be in the form of donations in his name to the University of Chicago Cancer Research Foundation, 5841 S. Maryland Ave., MC1140, Chicago, IL 60637.

    Staff writer Matt Hanley contributed to this report.

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