Drew Peterson Trial Delay?

Defense motions could delay Peterson trial
May 13, 2010
By JOE HOSEY

JOLIET — Drew Peterson’s jury is supposed to be picked in exactly a month and a day, but his lawyers are poised to launch a barrage of paperwork that could push back the disgraced former cop’s murder trial.

“These motions aren’t filed to delay the start of the trial,” said Joseph “Shark” Lopez, one of the six lawyers representing the accused wife-killer. “They’re filed for the purpose of protecting Mr. Peterson’s life under the Constitution.”

Another of Peterson’s lawyers, Joel Brodsky, said the defense team has prepared at least nine motions to be presented to Judge Stephen White.

“That’s not unusual for a case of this complexity,” Brodsky said. “There’s a lot of issues we have to get resolved before trial.”

Lopez said he could not go into detail about the motions as they must be filed under seal.

“I’d love to talk about the substance of these motions but I don’t think it would be appropriate at this time,” he said. “I can tell you one thing: They’ll be very interesting.”

Lopez did shed a bit of light on the confidential court filings, saying, “These motions attack some of the evidence” and that they “narrow the issues.” He also said prosecutors might have already received them and that they will be battled over in court.

“These motions will require evidentiary hearings,” Lopez said.  Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for the state’s attorney’s office, said prosecutors are primed to pick a jury June 14 and that they “will deal with any motions as they’re filed.”


Murder charge
Peterson allegedly murdered his third wife, Kathleen Savio, in March 2004. The state police insisted Savio accidentally drowned in her bathtub until Peterson’s next wife, Stacy Peterson, mysteriously vanished in October 2007. State police then suddenly zoomed in on Peterson as a suspect in Savio’s death and arrested him a year and a half later.

State police also suspect Peterson may have had a hand in slaying the missing Stacy, but have not done anything as drastic as charging him with harming her.

Peterson, unable to make his $20 million bond, has languished in jail for the last year and six days waiting for his murder trial to start. And after all this time, according to Brodsky, he can’t wait to get in front of a jury.

“He’s more confident than ever,” Brodsky said. “He’s looking forward to the weakness of the state’s case being revealed.”

Read the story in the Bolingbrook Sun

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113 thoughts on “Drew Peterson Trial Delay?

  1. “These motions aren’t filed to delay the start of the trial,” said Joseph “Shark” Lopez…
    Like thunder they’re not. That’s my opinion.
    And if Peterson is ‘more confident than ever’ I’d like to know what he’s smokin’. Go away, Brodsky-‘ye bother me’.

  2. LOL @ you, Cheryljones. What do we care if the trial is delayed, heh?. It’s Peterson that’s cooling his jets in near-solitude, itching to get on with it. His team can still have their roundtable at Tavern on Rush, or Gibsons, while he foots the bill. You know, the “legal expenses” that Maksym said he needs funds for to continue his defense. Feed the lawyers.

  3. Yeah, Rescue, you’re right…Feed those lawyers, “jump that Shark” LOL!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_the_shark
    “The phrase was originally used to denote the point…where the plot spins off into absurd story lines or unlikely characterizations. These changes were often the result of efforts to revive interest in a show whose viewership has begun to decline, usually through the employment of different actors, writers or producers…”
    😀

  4. If the State’s case is so weak, why does the Defense need to get the evidence thrown out? Something to do until the Ebay auctions end?

  5. Hiya Noway.

    If the State’s case is so weak, yes, where did the evidence come from that they wish to have thrown out? Last I heard, the State didn’t have any evidence.

    ♫ ♫ ♫ Nothing from nothing leaves nothing….♫ ♫ ♫

  6. I always thought there would be delays, which isn’t unusual in any legal proceeding. With Joe Hosey reporting that the attorneys plan to file a barrage of motions, it is understandable that the trial would be pushed back.

    The thing I wonder about, though, is what impact this might have on the presiding judge. Judge White is supposed to retire in October, so would yet another judge then take over? That is, of course, if the delay runs months, rather than weeks.

  7. If they do push this back then I think they’d have to redo the jury pool thing too. Didn’t they already round up a lot of people, have them answer a questionnaire, and told them not to watch the news? A delay tactic could end up resulting in getting a jury from outside of Will County which is what I’d think their goal would be since they didn’t win their change of venue argument earlier in the case.

    I’m not sure why they say that they are fighting for his life. He isn’t up for the death penaalty is he?? Delays end up potentially keeping Drew in jail longer if they truly feel the State’s case is weak and he will be acquitted.

    And it will end up costing taxpayers more money keeping him in the medical unit with his own personal cell and finding of more jurors – which goes against the Defense’s wish to shelter the fine taxpayers from costs related to this case…

  8. In reality – I wouldn’t be surprised by any delays… Heck – the appeal on the evidence for the case in the Oswego crash delayed the driver’s trial by over a yaer. That crash happened in February 2007 and they are finally supposed to be going to trial in June as well.

  9. Hahaha!! The Wanker Files…

    ****

    http://tinyurl.com/2u2dec7

    The Wanker Files: Drew Peterson Tries to Kill Off His Harley
    Written by Rodders
    Thursday, 13 May 2010 05:40

    Drew Peterson and his lawyer, both are nominated for a spot in the Wanker files this week. Yesterday, the ex-cop who “allegedly” killed a couple of his wives, is selling his Harley-Davidson Softail on eBay. As he sits in jail on 20 million dollars bond awaiting his fate, his lawyer, Joel Brodsky, defended his actions.”He’s not using it this summer,” Brodsky said. “It’s a nice bike, it’s rare and he figured rather than let it depreciate, he’d sell it off.” After checking in on the auction, there’s a 50,000 bid on the Harley.

    Well, it just so happens that the lawyer fees for defending this P.O.S are…let’s say it all together now class, 50,000! Wow, that’s a shocker. I don’t know anyone in their right mind that would want to pay 50k for a 25k bike with chrome on it. And get this, there’s the possibility of having Peterson autograph the bike. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

    Rodder’s theory of business ethics concludes that “someone” boosted the bid for 50k, just so a less smart chap would be inspired to actually bid on the bike. I mean come on, unless there’s magic ferry dust in the paint or a Golden Ticket to Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory, I just can’t understand what makes a Harley-Davidson, owned by this goof, worth any more than the gas in the tank. I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

  10. This listing (190396049612) has been removed, or this item is not available.

    Please check that you’ve entered the correct item number
    Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for viewing.

    Yes, the listing is gone! I can think of a few reasons why it could have been removed (legality of seller auctioning a bike he doesn’t own, the extra items offered outside the sale, possible phony bid, etc.) but rather than guess, I’m going to see if we can find out why.

  11. I see the listing, but the bid is gone and it says it’s ended.

    Ended: May 13, 201009:52:55 PDT
    Bid history: 0 bids
    Starting bid: US $50,000.00
    Reserve not met
    or
    Price: US $50,100.00

  12. That is still weird – I don’t have an ebay account and when I do a search for “drew peterson” the listing doesn’t come up.

  13. Does it bring you to the item if you list “Drew Peterson” in the search field? I can only get to it by typing in the item number. It is also strange because if you click on the seller’s name – it says they have 0 items for sale. Shouldn’t there be 1 for sale – the motorcycle??

  14. I think it was only a 3 day listing to begin with, which expired today. Now, it has been relisted for another three days.

  15. cfs7360 :

    I think it was only a 3 day listing to begin with, which expired today. Now, it has been relisted for another three days.

    The auction had about 10 hours left to go when it was prematurely ended.

  16. I wonder whoever may have placed the 50,000 bid was bid schilling or got scared that they may be obligated to purchase it at 50,000 since Brodsky said Drew would consider selling it at that price. Or upon extending the auction date that bidding just starts over again since the reserve wasn’t met anyway.

  17. givarat :I wonder whoever may have placed the 50,000 bid was bid schilling or got scared that they may be obligated to purchase it at 50,000 since Brodsky said Drew would consider selling it at that price. Or upon extending the auction date that bidding just starts over again since the reserve wasn’t met anyway.

    Or someone may have realized that they would actually have to pay some money to eBay for a fake sale if it actually won the bid… Guess we are left having to speculate…

  18. Well the rules about ending a bid early state this:
    Requirements

    Your ability to end a listing early depends on the amount of time remaining in the listing and whether the listing has received any bids.

    If there are 12 hours or more before the end of the listing, you can end the listing early without restrictions. If there are any bids on your item when you end the listing, you’ll be asked whether you want to cancel the bids or sell the item to the high bidder.

    If there are 12 hours or less before the end of the listing, your ability to end the listing early depends on whether there are any bids on the item and whether the item has a reserve price.

    Can the listing be ended early?

    No bids, including no canceled bids:
    Yes, as long as there aren’t any cancelled bids.

    One or more bids:
    Yes, but you must sell the item to the high bidder.

    One or more bids, but the item’s reserve price wasn’t met:
    No

  19. Well, here’s what we know for sure.

    Original auction was scheduled to end today at 19:52:20 PDT
    They pulled it at 9:52:55 PDT

    So,

    * They pulled it when it had less than 12 hours to the end.
    * There was one bid
    * The reserve price had not been met

    According to what GAR posted above the auction was not ended legitimately. Unless that one bid was magically retracted minutes before they pulled the auction. It was still there at 11:30am our time (9:30am PDT).

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html#requirements

  20. Can I retract or cancel my bid?

    However, honest mistakes sometimes occur. You can retract a bid if you have a valid reason for doing so as defined by eBay policy and you retract the bid within the required time period.

    Valid reasons for retracting a bid include:

    * You accidentally entered the wrong bid amount due to a typographical error.
    * The item’s description changed significantly after you entered your last bid.
    * You can’t reach the seller by telephone or email.

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/questions/retract-bid.html

  21. Maybe they think with all of the publicity that they should repost it in hopes that they get a higher bid war going on???

  22. thinkaboutit2 :

    Maybe they think with all of the publicity that they should repost it in hopes that they get a higher bid war going on???

    Doesn’t look like it since you can buy the thing for only $100 over the opening bid (which is already an outrageously over-inflated price). Who in their right mind would bid higher than the “buy it now” price?

  23. Did you ever get a response from the seller Facs? One thing I do notice different is that the seller had feedback from past buying history listed before but not selling. Maybe that was a policy issue?

  24. facsmiley :

    cfs7360 :
    I think it was only a 3 day listing to begin with, which expired today. Now, it has been relisted for another three days.

    The auction had about 10 hours left to go when it was prematurely ended.

    Didn’t realize that. Just saw where it was supposed to end today initially, but didn’t pay attention to exact time. Maybe you all can get the scoop

  25. Lopez said he could not go into detail about the motions as they must be filed under seal.

    “I’d love to talk about the substance of these motions but I don’t think it would be appropriate at this time,” he said. “I can tell you one thing: They’ll be very interesting.”

    Am I missing something here? When did the Judge require that motions be filed under seal? I realize he put a stfu order on the attorneys, but I don’t recall him saying that he would require motions to be filed under seal.

    I get the part about Lopez loving to talk and all, but not the super secret motions. I get it, too, that they’ll be interesting. Aren’t they always?

  26. I know they can’t appeal the decision before trial, but maybe they can file motions to supress evidence. Maybe we can get some answers from our lawyer contacts.

  27. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEE facsmiley I just wonder if it had anything to do with the statement I sent to E-BAY about the item???????????????

  28. Hi Theo – don’t blame you at all for hating the idea that Peterson is trying to profit because of his “name recognition.” It stinks. But, it should be some consolation to know that the majority of the people who’ve seen this story and know about the history of this all are repulsed by it. He has sold himself many times over for media attention since this all started, so about all he has left to sell is probably the only thing that is of importance to him. I don’t think anyone honestly expects him to get a bid of $50,000. That money would be better spent as a humanitarian gesture, say like donating it to Vets, the real heroes, that deserve it. Supporting a goof like him isn’t exactly a decision likely to be made by someone savvy enough to have that kind of money.

  29. A lawyer source got back to us about the new motions to be filed by the defense. He says that about 90% of pre-trial motions deal with evidence and 10% with procedure. At this point in the game, filing motions like this is a strategic move to make the prosecution work — even motions that are likely to be denied — but which require witnesses to testify. In Illinois there are no premilinary examinations, so evidentiary hearings are a defense lawyer’s only opportunity to examine a witness pre-trial.

  30. New motions….meh. Stalling tactics. You think they have a mind to delay until Judge White is timed out by his retirement?

  31. bucketoftea I don’t know but I felt that it was my profound duty as a hate Peterson person to try to bring this item to EBAY attention.

  32. bucketoftea :
    New motions….meh. Stalling tactics. You think they have a mind to delay until Judge White is timed out by his retirement?

    As far as I’m concerned they can stall all they want. Time is on the side of justice while DP spends it in jail.

  33. Hey guys – since we’ve made no secret that Peterson’s head defense honcho leaves something to be desired, I missed something that was in the paper the other day about another “high profile” case he’s latched onto.

    Brodsky was all for getting in on the cameras, lights, action. Well, both he and his nitwit client must have had an epiphany (no pun intended :-). Check this out. Would YOU want this lawyer?

    excerpts

    On Friday, Reyes, 35, was back in a Cook County courtroom, preparing for a possible trial on an indirect criminal contempt of court charge.

    The charge stems from taking his 3-year-old daughter — along with a local television news crew — to Holy Name Cathedral in January.

    In February, the Sun-Times reported he acknowledged taking his daughter to church with a Channel 2 news crew. But on Friday, both Reyes and his attorney, Joel Brodsky, were backing away from that assertion and said prosecutors will have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

    “They also have to prove he took his daughter in to that church and then they have to prove what he did once inside that church exposed her to something other than the Jewish religion,” Brodsky said.

    Anticipating a trial, Laura Ashmore, the attorney who represented Rebecca Reyes in the divorce proceedings and is also prosecuting this case, said she may call the WBBM-TV reporter and cameraman as witnesses.

    http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/2249430,CST-NWS-reyes08.article

  34. “They also have to prove he took his daughter in to that church and then they have to prove what he did once inside that church exposed her to something other than the Jewish religion,” Brodsky said.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Is Joel saying if you go to a Catholic Church that doesn’t necessarily mean that Church actually practices Catholicism (??)

  35. The point I was trying to make, JAH, is not what he says, but what he did. As he did with Peterson, he paraded this particular client in front of the cameras, but now seems to have the audacity to pooh pooh that, and then kicks into his sarcastic, cocky mode.

    In other words, it’s his familiar “oh, yeah, well you don’t have a case. Prove it.”

    Blah, blah, blah. He thrives on the attention, then when it kicks him in his butt, he puffs himself up and acts like a tough guy.

  36. judgin :Re: facsmiley May 13, 2010 at 9:05 pm | #41
    This looks like an example of what that lawyer is talking about:
    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/blagojevich-subpoenas-harry-reid.html
    Blagojevich subpoenas Harry Reid
    May 13, 2010 11:59 AM[snipped]“a federal judge recently rejected a request by Blagojevich’s defense to subpoena Obama to testify.”

    Here’s one more:

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/blagojevich-defense-subpoenas-rep-jackson.html
    Blagojevich defense subpoenas Rep. Jackson
    May 14, 2010 7:34 PM

    ~~~~~
    Blago vs Peterson … Vying for title of ‘Trial of the Century’

  37. We know now, the eBay listing was pulled for a good reason, but stupidity took over. Brodsky is correct in that Peterson hasn’t been convicted of anything. But, isn’t it so American that he can use his murder charge as publicity to inflate the price of his motorcycle. This is the same bs they tried to pull when they wanted to rent out Peterson’s Bolingbrook house to the media. Luckily, this stunt will meet the same fate. Dud. Poof. Thanks for the information, Joe.

    Drew’s Harley no longer ‘murderabilia’ to eBay

    May 15, 2010

    BY JOE HOSEY Herald-News

    The eBay site may have pulled Drew Peterson’s listing for his 2007 Harley-Davidson, labeling the accused wife-killer’s motorcycle “murderabilia” too offensive for it to peddle, according to Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodsky.

    But it wasn’t gone for long.

    No sooner did Brodsky find out about the bike being pulled off the site than his team got it back up.

    “We pointed out to eBay that the man has not been convicted of anything, and we’re still in America, where you’re innocent until proven guilty,” Brodsky said.

    The auction for Peterson’s motorcycle ends Sunday. The bidding starts at $50,000, and so far, there have been no takers.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/2276670,CST-NWS-drew15.article

  38. Wow! They were successful at something! I’m sure that will make their website, and Joe’s story will, I’m sure, be in their scrapbook. The one they’ll start, that is.

  39. Yeah, LOL, Cheryl, success. Success in attracting yet more negative attention to his client, the murder defendant. Wow, smart.

    Listing the motorcycle on eBay is one thing, but attaching Peterson’s name to the description as a reason to inflate the price to more than double what it’s worth had no useful purpose. I thought the idea of eBay is to attract people to bid on products that will get them a “good deal,” not get bonked by the seller. 🙂

    Unless you’re living in the land of Brodpete.

  40. It looks like they were allowed to “correct” their shill bid. Almost 4:30pm British Summer Time, still 0 bids.

  41. Interesting that whoever wanted that bike so badly as to bid $50,000 for it, did not renew their bid. More evidence to suggest that it was a shill as we’ve been suspecting.

  42. Nice comment from Hosey’s story:

    mr. dilligaf wrote:
    “We pointed out to eBay that the man has not been convicted of anything and we’re still in America, where you’re innocent until proven guilty,”

    Then the value of his motorcycle should be based the same. On an innocent man.
    5/15/2010 5:18 AM CDT on suburbanchicagonews.com

    Yes, if he’s an innocent man, what justifies the outrageous addition of $30k to the value of his bike? Certainly, they are allowed to ask as much as they like, but by listing it as “Drew Peterson’s HD Springer Softail”, using a photo of him astride the bike, and offering an additional package of autographed items it proves that they are selling more than just the motorcycle. They are hoping someone will pay more for the opportunity to own a high profile murderer’s property.

    If he gets a bid and the bike shows up in the halls of the National Museum of Crime & Punishment then eBay has not been sticking to their own guidelines.

  43. Thanks for that gentleman’s comment, Facs. That was sweet! Think that pretty much shows how the public views anything that relates to Drew Peterson and his head defense lawyer.

  44. I’ve got a good idea. Maybe someone on the defense team can take it in trade, and one of them can display it with a sign that says it once held the ass of Drew Peterson. Or is that it once held the ass, Drew Peterson? Whatever works.

  45. I can’t help but wonder…why would ANY of these other attorneys want to be associated with any of this nonsense? Lopez, Greenberg, Meczyk? Aren’t they basically getting dragged into the cesspool of nonsense? What happened to them wanting to be a part of this case to protect this moron’s Constitutional rights, not help him try to capitalize on the fact that their client is an accused murderer?

    In which case, why would anyone other than a dog-ass criminal have any respect for these guys?

  46. I’ve got a good idea. Maybe someone on the defense team can take it in trade, and one of them can display it with a sign that says it once held the ass of Drew Peterson. Or is that it once held the ass, Drew Peterson? Whatever works.

    Excellent suggestion, Rescue! The barter system ruled the day when Joel was using Peterson to promote his sports bar. He could just use the bike as a retainer.

    They just can’t seem to let go of this idea that since the public follows the news about Peterson that they must also yearn to own items that were his or live in his house. It’s such a repulsive thought.

    If they really just want $$ for Drew’s court cost, why not just sell the bike as “a bike”? It looks like it’s an expensive toy as it is, and if it is already collectible as Joel stated, then I’m sure it would sell without all the “Drew Peterson” hoopla. But with them there is never an honest angle, not ever. Everything is a stunt, media hijinks. Even the man’s love life.

    Disgusting.

  47. eBay is not being consistent in keeping the auction of Drew’s motorcycle on the site. In the past they have pulled auctions of items belonging to people who had only been charged with murder but not yet convicted – like Drew Peterson.

    In an effort to raise money for the man charged with the murder of a Wichita doctor who performed abortions, Regina Dinwiddle and others, unsuccessfully tried to auction items on eBay.

    The auctions consisted of 10 items, including several sketches by Scott Roeder, doctor Tiller’s accused killer. Within hours of the items being listed, EBay took down the auction items.

    EBay sent an e-mail to Dinwiddie, calling the items “murderabilia.”

    “We don’t allow items that are closely associated with individuals convicted of a violent felony to be listed on eBay,” the e-mail said. “Such items can be deeply offensive to the families of victims.”

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-312-Auctions-and-Antiques-Examiner~y2009m11d4-EBay-swiftly-shuts-down-murderabilia-auctions

    Roeder was eventually convicted, but he was not at the time that the auction of his items was pulled.

  48. I didn’t understand this at first because of the reference in their email to “individuals convicted of a violent felony,” but Facs, as always smart as can be, better explained what I was missing (duh).

    eBay pulled the listing BEFORE the conviction, yet, in their email to Dinwiddle, they referred to it as murderabilia, and said they wouldn’t allow items to be listed associated with a convicted felon.

    So, if they pulled the listing in that instance, why not now? Same circumstances. Although, eBay needs to take a stand and take it correctly. In this instance, they backed down from Brodsky based on his “this is America” favorite line.

  49. What this all means to me is that eBay reserves the right to not carry an auction if they don’t want to. It seems to me that if enough people complain about an auction they will take it down.

    I am thinking that if the bike doesn’t sell in the next 20 hours (or whatever is left) they will simply relist, and relist, possibly all summer long until they get a buyer.

  50. Time left: 19h 37m 11s (May 16, 201010:38:52 PDT)
    Bid history: 1 bid
    Current bid: US $37,500.00
    Reserve not met
    Your maximum bid:
    US $
    Place bidPlace bid
    (Enter US $37,600.00 or more)
    or
    Price: US $50,100.00 Buy It NowBuy It NowBuy It Now

  51. But see, that’s why Peterson has the Brodsky! It’s because Brodsky’s soooo smart! Dinwiddie and Roeder just didn’t have the intelligence to deal with eBay the way Drewpy’s smart attorney does. That’s why he’s worth the big bucks.
    *Note to self:Disengage smartypants mode before talking to mother.

  52. E-Bay themselves don’t pull any listings as they have millions and millions of listings at any one time and as a result can’t/don’t monitor what’s on there.

    They solely rely on their member base to report listings in breach of their policies.

  53. Excerpt

    This is the world of ‘murderabilia.,’” Andy Kahn, a Houston Crime Advocate told ABC News.

    “Lately this is a trend. Distasteful as it may seem, it is not illegal. Like it or not, Drew Peterson is innocent until proven guilty, so his motorcycle is fair game. The key word is ‘suspect.’ Notoriety for profit and Son of Sam laws don’t kick in unless he convicted,” said Kahn

    A 2007 Harley Davidson Softail is valued between $11,000 and $18,000 according to The Kelly Blue Book.

    “The fact that Peterson is selling the bike for $50,000 and that he tries to profit from this just reaffirms his true narcissistic psyche,” said Kahn. “I’d be shocked if someone bought it at that price,” he continued..

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/hearsay/2010/05/drew-peterson-sells-his-motorcycle-on-ebay.html

  54. justanotherhen :

    E-Bay themselves don’t pull any listings as they have millions and millions of listings at any one time and as a result can’t/don’t monitor what’s on there.

    They solely rely on their member base to report listings in breach of their policies.

    EBay is the entity that pulls the listings, even though the violations or complaints are registered by others. Members can’t stop an auction, but they can report or complain.

    What was interesting to me was that eBay pulled the auctions for Roeder, even though at the time he was only accused of murder and had not yet been convicted, which is actually outside of their policy. So, that makes it obvious to me that if they want to pull and auction…they will.

  55. Signatures on available accessories possible. Either it’s signed or it isn’t. I’d hate to think I wouldn’t get a signed bandanna with the deal lol.

  56. eBay de-lists Kevorkian death van, citing policy

    By DAVID N. GOODMAN (AP) – Apr 26, 2010

    DETROIT — Online auction site eBay pulled a listing Monday for a van used by Dr. Jack Kevorkian to perform several assisted suicides, saying the sale of the van would violate the company’s policy against the sale of “murderabilia.”

    Jack Finn, a retired used auto parts dealer, put the 1968 Volkswagon van once owned by Kevorkian up for auction on eBay last week. With three days left in the auction, the top bid placed for it was $3,400 at 12:30 p.m. EDT Monday, but the ad had been pulled an hour later.

    In an e-mail message, eBay told The Associated Press it “does not allow the sale of items closely associated with notorious murderers within the last 100 years.”

    “We carefully consider all the details before deciding to remove such listings when they’re brought to our attention, looking at the entire posting to determine if eBay policy has been violated,” eBay said.

    In an e-mail to Finn, eBay said: “The listing was removed because it violated the eBay Murderabilia policy.”

    continued
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jl9bJzbFQRrru8-NPC5hL10pJ3PAD9FB30I81

  57. givarat :

    Signatures on available accessories possible. Either it’s signed or it isn’t. I’d hate to think I wouldn’t get a signed bandanna with the deal lol.

    What they mean is that if you want the extra accesories, they can arrange to have them signed. It is possible, if the buyer wants it. This would be at an extra charge, of course.. 😉

  58. “We carefully consider all the details before deciding to remove such listings when they’re brought to our attention, looking at the entire posting to determine if eBay policy has been violated,” eBay said.

    What do they exactly “carefully consider?”

    What is wrong with eBay asking the owner of the listing to disassociate his name with the motorcycle, since he is specifically using his “murder defendant” notoriety to inflate the price?

    He has every right to sell that motorcycle, but what’s up with saying it’s The Drew Peterson Motorcycle? Can you guess?

  59. givarat :
    Signatures on available accessories possible. Either it’s signed or it isn’t. I’d hate to think I wouldn’t get a signed bandanna with the deal lol.

    🙂 Giva!
    And I’d hate to think I would.

  60. facsmiley :

    givarat :
    Signatures on available accessories possible. Either it’s signed or it isn’t. I’d hate to think I wouldn’t get a signed bandanna with the deal lol.

    What they mean is that if you want the extra accesories, they can arrange to have them signed. It is possible, if the buyer wants it. This would be at an extra charge, of course..

    So they are going to lug these accessories down to the courthouse to have DP sign them? Any idea what these accessories are? I hope they aren’t guns or tools to get out of jail. 🙂

  61. EBay listing update:

    eBay Note: The seller lowered the reserve price.

    Lowering your reserve price
    If you lower the reserve price below the high bidder’s maximum bid, the high bidder’s maximum bid is lowered to $1.00 below the new reserve price. Bidders are notified of the new reserve price by email and must bid again to confirm interest in the item. The high bidder must bid again at or above the new reserve price.

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/lowering-reserve.html#lower

  62. Facs, check that again… something changed

    Time left: 15h 1m 29s (May 16, 201010:38:52 PDT)

    Bid history: 1 bid[Refresh bidhistory]

    Current bid: US $37,500.00

  63. Bid retraction and cancellation history

    Retracted: US $37,600.00
    Explanation: Entered wrong amount
    Bid: May-15-10 19:07:37 PDT
    Retracted: May-15-10 19:32:08 PDT

    Under what conditions can I retract a bid?
    Whether you can retract a bid depends on the circumstances and timing of the bid. You can retract a bid for the following reasons:

    You accidentally entered the wrong bid amount due to a typographical error. For instance, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95. If this occurs, you must reenter the correct bid amount immediately after you retract your bid. Changing your mind is not a typographical error.

  64. So, whoever did this gave a reason for the retraction, but broke the eBay rules by failing to enter a new bid – is that it?

    Something fishy in wing world.

  65. Meanwhile the auction is still running or running again (whatever the right phrasing is here) with the original circumvention of E-Bays fees by offering goods outside of the actual auction.

  66. Good morning! within the last half-hour the motorcycle listing has been removed. Just before, just the single bid for $37,500, reserve not met. I think it’s all those red-hot messages to ebay. I don’t think they got up that early to remove it themselves on a Sunday morning.

  67. LOL I was actually looking at the listing, and hit refresh to see how much time left, and it went POOF!!

  68. This listing (190396726611) has been removed, or this item is not available.

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    Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for viewing.

  69. You too Rescue. It is a beautiful day. I’m losing my internet for a week so you guys get a break lol. I guess we will find out in a few days why they took this listing down again. The disappearing bid was very strange and suspicious. But maybe it was due to complaints. It’s getting too hard to guess why things happen the way they do in DP land.

  70. It could be that the scum bag person who bidded on it might have struck a deal with seller or EBAY finally realized that it wouldn’t sell this item from a murder! Anyway here is another battle that the SAVIOS WON!!!!!!!!!! If I rember right the DUMBDUMB TEAM won 2 appeals and the Savios won 14 O happy day!!!!!!!!

  71. For those who wondered how they were going to deliver on the signed bike/accessories, this is how the seller explained it would be done:

    If you really want a signature a decal can be signed which can be applied to the bike.

  72. facsmiley :For those who wondered how they were going to deliver on the signed bike/accessories, this is how the seller explained it would be done:

    If you really want a signature a decal can be signed which can be applied to the bike.

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    A signature signed with the ‘murderer’s last drop of blood’ …

  73. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Softail-FXST-Harley-Davidson-2001-Softail-Standard-FXST_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ49994QQihZ012QQitemZ220603287781QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

    2001 Harley-Davidson Softail FXST
    Harley Davidson 2001 Softail Standard FXSTResearch 2001 Harley-Davidson Softail

    Time left: 4h 16m 4s (May 16, 201017:22:52 PDT)

    Bid history: 0 bids[Refresh bidhistory]

    Starting bid: US $8,000.00

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    Maybe they could attract some interest if they would add some cash into the deal to pay someone to take it off their hands. 🙂

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