Drew Peterson’s motorcycle pulled from eBay…again

UPDATE MAY 17: WBBM reports that the second eBay auction was pulled due to complaints, just as the first one was. Also, Joel Brodsky says that the bike has now been sold  privately for a “good price”.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maybe Drew Peterson’s Harley-Davidson warrants a higher-than-normal asking price after all. It seems to be magical — at least it does a good disappearing act. With only three hours left until the end of the auction, and a single bid in the amount of $37,500 for “Drew Peterson’s HD Springer Softail”, the auction page was again replaced with a message reading, “This listing has been removed, or this item is not available.”

The bike was first listed last week with an opening bid price of $50,000. After receiving one bid in that amount the auction was ended when eBay cited a policy against “murderabilia“. Joel Brodsky appealed the decision, stating that his client was not a convicted murderer, only an accused one and after all, “we’re still in America, where you’re innocent until proven guilty

The motorcycle was soon relisted but within a day the opening bid price was lowered to $37,500 and by yesterday afternoon there was one bid for that amount. Yesterday evening the reserve price on the item was lowered and a second bid quickly followed for $37,600 but was soon retracted; the reason being given that the bidder had entered the wrong amount. That’s where the bidding stopped, until about 7:00 AM this morning when the auction was prematurely ended.

At this point, eBay’s official reason is unknown. Undoubtedly, people have continued to complain about the nature of the auction, since Peterson was so blatantly attempting to profit from his notoriety with no regard for the families of his missing and dead wives. The item photo that showed Drew astride the bike, the title of the auction including his name, and the opportunity to have a Peterson-autographed decal affixed to the bike attempted to justify the highly inflated asking price (the “Buy it now” price was $50,100).

EBay’s offensive material policy states:

Out of respect for the families of victims, we don’t allow the sale of items closely associated with notorious murderers within the last 100 years.
We’ll remove your listing and suspend your account if you’ve been convicted of a violent felony and are attempting to use eBay (directly or through another person) to benefit financially from your criminal notoriety.

Although their murderabilia policy mentions conviction, eBay has previously removed listings that attempted to raise money for a person who was not convicted, but only accused at the time of the listing.

It has also been noted that the listing offered additional accessories to be sold as a package, to the winner of the auction. This is against eBay’s policy and is considered an attempt to circumvent their fees.

The thing that’s clear to me is that if eBay doesn’t want your business they can find a way to make a listing disappear. Abracadabra!

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144 thoughts on “Drew Peterson’s motorcycle pulled from eBay…again

  1. I have a take on that whole ebay deal…but I am going to refrain for now. I personally just cannot wait until this circus is over and done with, justice is served Properly and we can go back to our regular scheduled lives. Never seen the likes of this before.

  2. What I hope, and I mean this with all sincerity, is that this ‘bidness’ got their hopes up, big time.
    I know, I’m bad. Sorry. I just can’t help it in this instance.

  3. FYI:

    If you would like to keep this date open and participate, Kathleen Savio’s sister, Sue, and other family members, will be honoring her on June 13, at 11:00a.m., her birthday.

    The honor celebration will take place at Kathleen’s grave site, with the release of balloons, and saying of prayers. Any one can join in, and everyone is welcome.! Kathleen’s grave site is in Section 22 in the Queen of Heaven Cemetery.

  4. Oops. Against policy? 🙂 Honest-it just came to me in the middle of the thought. I’ll try to keep it to a minimum.
    ***
    June 13-day before the trial is supposed to start. I, too, will remember. I hope the media covers it. I believe her death would have fallen by the wayside as so many do, if it weren’t for Stacy and Kathleen. God bless her family.

  5. BTW, we asked Karen Conti about the motions that the defense is said to be preparing and this is what she had to say:

    Q: Do you have any idea why these new motions would be sealed?

    A: The article indicates that the judge is requiring parties to file motions under seal. It makes sense because the judge’s ruling on the hearsay issue is also under seal, so if any of these “motions in limine” deal with that issue, which they probably do, the judge does not want them to taint the potential jury pool.

    Q: Can motions be filed to supress evidence even before it has been decided whether or not that evidence can be admitted?

    A: Motions to suppress evidence are always filed before there is a ruling on admissibility. If they are admissible, they will not be suppressed….I would be surprised if these motions delay the trial.

  6. Motion in limine

    A “motion in limine” asks the court to decide that certain evidence may or may not be presented to the jury at the trial. A motion in limine generally addresses issues which would be prejudicial for the jury to hear in open court, even if the other side makes a timely objection which is sustained, and the judge instructs the jury to disregard the evidence. For example, the defendant may ask the court to rule that evidence of a prior conviction that occurred a long time ago should not be allowed into evidence at the trial because it would be more prejudicial than probative. If the motion is granted, then evidence regarding the conviction could not be mentioned in front of the jury, without first approaching the judge outside of the hearing of the jury and obtaining permission. The violation of a motion in limine can result in the court declaring a mistrial.

    There are three types of Motions in Limine 1. Inclusionary – A motion asking the court to have something included in the trial. 2. Exclusionary – A motion asking the court to have something excluded in the trial. 3. Preclusionary – A motion asking the court to have something precluded in the trial.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_%28legal%29#Motion_in_limine

  7. The good news is, all of the complaints to eBay about the way this bike was being peddled DID get it pulled off the site twice.

    Posted: Monday, 17 May 2010 2:06PM

    Drew Peterson’s Harley-Davidson motorcycle has finally sold

    Steve Miller Reporting
    CHICAGO (WBBM) — Drew Peterson’s lawyer says Peterson’s Harley-Davidson motorcycle has finally sold – after being pulled off eBay at least twice.

    The new owner of Drew Peterson’s motorcycle?

    “We went with a private buyer, who gave us a very good price.”

    Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s lawyer, says eBay took Peterson’s Harley off the auction site twice – after complaints that it was “murderabilia.”

    After it was taken down the first time, Brodsky objected – and eBay put the bike back up.

    Then, Brodsky says more complaints. And the Harley was taken down again.

    Finally, Brodsky says, he and Peterson went with a private buyer – for what Brodsky calls a “good price.”

    Brodsky wouldn’t say how good. Peterson had been asking that bidding start at $50,000 – more than twice the blue book value.

    Newsradio 780 has tried to reach eBay for comment.

    http://www.wbbm780.com/Drew-Peterson-s-Harley-Davidson-motorcycle-has-fin/7067039

  8. Finally, Brodsky says, he and Peterson went with a private buyer – for what Brodsky calls a “good price.”

    So…maybe to a collector which would mean we’ll soon be seeing it in a museum of some sort, or to a Harley lover which means they paid something closer to $20k for the bike, or maybe it’s simply been wheeled back into Drew’s garage, or…

    Why is it I just can’t bring myself to take anything Joel says at face value?

  9. Oh, I can imagine some Harley-Davidson collector wanting the bike and willing to pay fair market value for it. Apparently 2007 was the last year they made this model. I just like to think that if that was the case, the buyer refused all offers of an autographed decal.

    The disgusting thing of course, was the offensive way the bike was marketed — not that he was selling the bike.

  10. Let’s be real. Drew has lots of toys that he could easily sell at fair market value and have enough to pay for his defense. He could easily have had someone put his stuff out there without flashing his name all over it and offering autographs.

  11. Absolutely. There was no need to sell that bike as “Drew Peterson’s” at all. Just one more slap in the face of Kitty and Stacy and their families.

  12. Drew Peterson’s Defense Team Gathers For Strategy Session

    Updated: Monday, 17 May 2010, 9:04 PM CDT
    Published : Monday, 17 May 2010, 9:04 PM CDT

    By Craig Wall, FOX Chicago News

    Chicago – The countdown is on for Drew Peterson. In less than a month, the former Bolingbrook Police sergeant will go on trial for the 2004 murder of his third wife Kathleen Savio. He has pleaded not guilty.

    On Monday, Peterson’s new defense team gathered for a strategy session at the office of lead attorney Joel Brodsky, as they gear up for his trial.

    Confidence is one thing they do NOT appear to be lacking.

    “We have got a great team. I added up the number of jury trials between the members of the team and we have over 500 juries,” Brodsky said.

    Before the meeting started, Drew Peterson actually called Brodsky’s office from the Will County Jail to touch base with his attorneys, but because of a judge’s order we were not allowed to talk to him.

    Earlier this year, a hearing on what hearsay evidence would be allowed at trial gave Peterson’s defense team a good look at the prosecution’s evidence. The judge still has not ruled on what will be admitted.

    But for Peterson’s attornies the strategy has not changed.

    “This was an investigation done by very competent Illinois State Police officers, they made the conclusion that this was an accident, it was an accident in 2004, and it’s an accident in 2010,” said newly added lawyer Joseph “The Shark” Lopez.

    During the hearsay hearing, prosecutors tried to undermine that investigation, pointing out numerous flaws in the how Illinois State Police handled the case.

    Savio was found dead in a dry bathtub, but in 2008 her body was exhumed and a second autopsy ruled her death was not an accident, but murder.

    Peterson was charged with her death a year ago.

    His lawyers know jurors may come in with preconceived notions that Peterson is guilty, but they don’t seem concerned.

    “Even a jury with preconceived notions is gonna want to hear some evidence, and when they hear none, that they are going to be convinced that the only possible verdict is not guilty,” Brodsky said.

    He has not even talked to Peterson about a possible guilty verdict.

    The way things are shaping up, Lopez said there is only one thing that could be better for the defense and that’s if the case gets dismissed before the trial starts.

    But the chances of that happening are about the same as Peterson posting his $20 million dollar bond. Something neither side expects will happen.

    Jury selection is set to begin June 14th and take at least several days. The trial is expected to last about two weeks.

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/drew_peterson/drew-peterson-defense-strategy-20100517

  13. “This was an investigation done by very competent Illinois State Police officers, they made the conclusion that this was an accident, it was an accident in 2004, and it’s an accident in 2010,” said newly added lawyer Joseph “The Shark” Lopez.

    What the hell is he smokin?

  14. So, if the first investigation was on the money and the State doesn’t have any evidence, why does Peterson need six “confident” lawyers to pow wow over strategy a month in advance?

    I was born at night, but not last night!

  15. After watching this video I’m just baffled that this is considered “news”. The defense had a meeting. OK. and…? Maybe they should have invited a member of the press when they met at Tavern on Rush. At least he might have gotten a drink or some dessert. Is the defense thinking this is going to deflect from the hideous motorcycle fiasco or was Fox Chicago just getting an early start on their trial coverage?

  16. Looks like the motions were leaked because someone wrote descriptions of the motions o. The outside of the envelopes -http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/2285684,4_1_JO18_PETERSON_S1-100518.article

  17. We were waiting on this story all day. Thanks, TAI.

    Peterson motions leaked
    May 18, 2010

    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@stmedianetwork.com
    JOLIET — Prosecutors pushed to keep evidence in the Drew Peterson case under wraps. But after the way a batch of recently filed court papers were treated, the accused killer’s lawyer wants to know why they bothered.

    “That’s pretty stupid; that’s pretty bad,” attorney Joel Brodsky said of descriptions printed on the sealed envelopes of seven secret court motions he filed in the past few days.

    “If that’s the way they’re going to handle it, perhaps we should open up the whole file and let everyone see everything,” Brodsky said.

    Last week and Monday, Brodsky filed motions to quash the warrants used to search Peterson’s home in the days after his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, vanished in October 2007, and to exhume the grave of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found drowned in a dry bathtub in March 2004.

    Peterson faces a murder charge in connection with Savio’s death, but there was a gap of more than five years and three autopsies between her dying and his arrest.

    Despite Peterson and Savio engaging in a bitter divorce that was about to wrap up with Savio claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in the couple’s assets, state police insisted that she was the victim of a freak bathtub accident. The state police abruptly changed their tune after Stacy mysteriously vanished, and a year and a half later arrested Peterson for allegedly murdering Savio.

    State police also believe Peterson may have had a hand in doing in the missing Stacy, but have yet to charge him with harming her.

    Sealed motions

    Peterson’s murder trial is slated to start June 14, and Brodsky’s motions included a request that the trial not include “any evidence that Kathleen Savio was fearful for her life or expressed to anyone any fears regarding physical danger from Drew Peterson,” according to writing on the sealed envelope containing the court papers.
    Several witnesses testified during an evidentiary hearing earlier this year that Savio did indeed fear for her life and that Peterson threatened not only to kill her, but to make her death appear accidental.

    Another motion filed by Brodsky seeks to stop prosecutors from “utilizing items recovered from Drew Peterson’s household, including the items showing he was in Chicago” the weekend before Savio’s body was found. From what was written on the sealed envelope containing the motion, prosecutors want to use these items “in an effort to show a ‘false alibi.‘”

    Another motion asks prosecutors to cough up “all statements made by (celebrity medical examiner) Michael Baden regarding this case including statements made while appearing on broadcast media.”

    Baden performed an autopsy on Savio’s exhumed remains that was later shown on the Fox News network. Baden also testified as an expert witness during the evidentiary hearing held earlier this year.

    Who wrote on envelopes?
    Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for the state’s attorney’s office, declined to comment on the motions. As far as Brodsky’s contention that the writing on the motions’ envelopes violated the court-ordered seal, Pelkie said, “I’ve not seen them so I can’t comment.”
    Brodsky blamed the circuit clerk’s office for detailing the contents of the sealed motions.

    “That doesn’t sound like the clerk is obeying the judge’s rule on confidentiality,” Brodsky said.

    Charles Squires, the chief deputy circuit clerk, said he could not discuss the matter.

    “It’s an ongoing case and I’m not able to comment,” Squires said.

    Ongoing case or not, Brodsky had plenty to say about it.

    “If I’d known they were going to do that, I would have filed (the motions) regularly,” he said. “That’s ridiculous.”

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/2285684,4_1_JO18_PETERSON_S1-100518.article

  18. Crikey. So they’re worried about Kitty’s fear. That is just disgusting. I hope it makes DP feel just a fraction of it. Pricks on wheels.(or have the bikes really been sold?)

    Got to ROFL about The Little Red Alibi Wallet, though.

    Can’t quite get my head around expecting prosecution to supply them with the Baden details…isn’t that their job? lol

  19. I’ll refer again to Karen Conti who told us:

    And remember, just because the Shark says the motions require evidentiary hearings, doesn’t mean the judge will feel the same way.

  20. I’ve just had a look at the court schedules, and he’s there. June 14th…could someone else take a look again and tell me that it doesn’t mean there are 2 charges now 😯

  21. PETERSON DREW 6 10 10 WCCA 900 09L 000326 Case
    PETERSON DREW W 6 14 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 1 Jury Trial
    PETERSON DREW W 6 14 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 2 Jury Trial

  22. There are two counts on the indictment.

  23. I hope I’ve got this right.

    720 ILCS Section 5/9(a)(1) and 5/9(a)(2) are what he is charged with:

    (720 ILCS 5/9‑1) (from Ch. 38, par. 9‑1)
    Sec. 9‑1. First degree Murder ‑ Death penalties ‑ Exceptions ‑ Separate Hearings ‑ Proof ‑ Findings ‑ Appellate procedures ‑ Reversals.
    (a) A person who kills an individual without lawful justification commits first degree murder if, in performing the acts which cause the death:
    (1) he either intends to kill or do great bodily harm to that individual or another, or knows that such acts will cause death to that individual or another; or
    (2) he knows that such acts create a strong probability of death or great bodily harm to that individual or another; or …

    http://tinyurl.com/28xnjwk

  24. OT but as Amanda Knox’ PR consultant has some kind of headlock on US media, I thought you might be interested in this. Here, it’s not the lawyers representing the killer in court but the perp’s own family…

    http://tinyurl.com/35qz6gu

  25. June 10: 09L 000326 In Re: Estate of Kathleen Savio, Deceased wrongful death suit.

    June 14: 09CF001048 The murder charge – two counts

    Drew has been indicted with two murder counts from the beginning.

  26. BTW, I think other people have noted before that the Will County Court Schedule appears to be upated only once a week or so, usually on Monday.

    Not every hearing or quickie court date makes it there and sometimes dates get cancelled or postponed but remain on the schedule.

  27. What busy successful lawyer has time to count his cases, or even the collective number of cases of the collective mess of lawyers? ???

  28. I’ve watched this video a couple of times now, and to say I’m flabbergasted with Atty Lopez’ comment “This was an investigation done by very competent Illinois State Police officers….”is an understatement. On this, he apparently bases his defense that once an accident, still an accident.

    Has he not yet gotten to the transcript from the hearsay proceedings where Sgt. Collins testified? Has he not gotten to the transcript where Illinois State Trooper Brian Falat testified? Or read the newspaper accounts of the testimony that filtered out into the public through the media, such as this:

    Ill. trooper describes Drew Peterson investigation
    By DON BABWIN

    JOLIET, Ill. (AP) – An Illinois State Police trooper involved in the original investigation of the 2004 death of Drew Peterson’s ex-wife testified Thursday that he quickly suspected it was a homicide, even though the lead investigator initially believed it was an accident.

    Master Sgt. Bryan Falat described an investigation in which Peterson’s colleagues at the Bolingbrook police department came and went from the home where Kathleen Savio’s body was found in a dry bathtub and in which Peterson was allowed to be with his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, as she was questioned. Falat said he told the lead investigator in Savio’s death about his concerns about the investigation.

    Are we to assume, when Brodsky says the jury is going to be expecting evidence, of which there is none, that they’re going to come up with this b.s. as though it’s to be taken as reliable, credible non-evidence?

    I can’t believe what I’m hearing from them. It’s as though they’re throwing stuff out there just for the shock of how goofy it sounds.

  29. No need for Tavern on Rush and/or office pow wows. They just need to come here to see what’s going on in Drewland:

    Sgt. Patrick Collins, the top man of a team of state police investigators, made up his mind within an hour of arriving at Savio’s home that the dead woman in the tub had died accidentally. And apparently no one could talk him out of it. Not even one of his own.

    State police Master Sgt. Bryan Falat worked the Savio death investigation when he was a trooper on loan to the agency’s investigation division. He testified on the 12th day of the hearsay hearing that he repeatedly urged Collins, the lead agent on the investigation, to approach the case as if something more sinister than a slip-and-fall accident had occurred in Savio’s bathtub.

    For example, Falat suggested re-interviewing the friends and neighbors who found Savio’s body. He advised that allowing Drew Peterson to be questioned in the lunchroom of the Bolingbrook police station, where Peterson had worked as an officer since 1977, might not be the most prudent course of action. And he spoke against allowing Peterson to be present for the interrogation of his much younger, new wife, Stacy Peterson, which was held in the basement of the couple’s house.

    Collins did not heed any of Falat’s objections or recommendations. He apparently was already under the sway of the third member of the investigative team, state police Crime Scene Investigator Robert Deel who — despite the first-degree murder charges now facing Peterson in connection with Savio’s death — still believes she was the victim of nothing more than an accident.

  30. ‘I don’t care why …’
    Collins testified at the hearsay hearing that he had never worked a homicide when he was sent to Savio’s home and that he deferred to the judgment of Deel, a 24-year veteran of the state police.

    Deel collected no evidence during his investigation of the Savio death scene. He overlooked a glass of orange juice on her kitchen counter, a mug of water in her microwave and a condom Falat says he told him was in a bathroom wastebasket. Deel denies Falat told him about the condom — which Savio’s boyfriend says he did not put there. Either way, Deel conceded that he did not look in the wastebasket, or any other trash receptacles, during his investigation.

    Deel also failed to check for the clothes Savio was wearing before she took her supposed death bath, or to document whether there were any towels in the bathroom. And he neglected to dust for fingerprints or conduct chemical blood testing.

    When she was found in the tub, Savio had an inch-long bloody gash on the back of her head, which she apparently sustained during the “accidental” fall before she drowned. But Deel did not find it strange that he could find no blood or hair on any of the surfaces around the tub.

    Savio’s body also bore the marks of scratches and extensive bruising, but it was not enough to raise Deel’s investigative radar. As he put it, “The bruises on the body are insignificant to me.”

    The fact that Peterson and Savio, who while legally divorced were still in the midst of a contentious property dispute that was due to wrap up in the coming weeks with Savio claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in the couple’s assets, including a portion of her husband’s pension, was also lost on Deel. As was Peterson and Savio’s acrimonious and violent history, which was lowlighted by 19 calls to the police and allegations of assault, battery, theft and harassment. Motive, after all, does not come into play when Deel probes a potential murder.

    “I don’t care why it happened,” he explained.

    No demerit?

    And if anyone else in the state police — aside from Falat — cared about the circumstances of Kathleen Savio’s life and death, they must not have looked into it deeply; the state police determined she died accidentally, just as Deel and Collins figured from the start.

    But less than three and a half years later, Stacy Peterson, the wife Collins allowed to be held and coached by Drew Peterson during her basement interview, mysteriously disappeared. Suddenly, the Kathleen Savio backstory became a much more compelling subject to the state police.

    It was about this same time that the Will County state’s attorney’s office ordered the state police to keep Deel out of its jurisdiction. At least that’s the way Deel tells it.

    During the hearsay hearing, one of Peterson’s attorneys, Andrew Abood, asked Deel whether his superiors reprimanded him for failing to take fingerprints or if he was stuck with a “demerit” for his performance in the Savio investigation. Deel answered no to both questions.

    “Nobody from the state’s attorney’s office has written a letter to the I.S.P. and said, I don’t want Bob Deel investigating crimes in Will County anymore?” Abood asked, to which Deel replied, “I don’t know about a letter, but I know that’s happened.”

    Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for State’s Attorney James Glasgow, declined to confirm whether that request came from Glasgow himself.

    Following his appearance at the hearsay hearing on Feb. 4, Deel answered, “No comment,” when asked if he is allowed to conduct investigations in Will County, but state police Master Sgt. Isaiah Vega confirmed Deel does still work here.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/2074488,police_bungle_peterson_jo022810.article

  31. Who wrote on envelopes?
    Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for the state’s attorney’s office, declined to comment on the motions. As far as Brodsky’s contention that the writing on the motions’ envelopes violated the court-ordered seal, Pelkie said, “I’ve not seen them so I can’t comment.”
    Brodsky blamed the circuit clerk’s office for detailing the contents of the sealed motions.

    “That doesn’t sound like the clerk is obeying the judge’s rule on confidentiality,” Brodsky said.

    Charles Squires, the chief deputy circuit clerk, said he could not discuss the matter.

    “It’s an ongoing case and I’m not able to comment,” Squires said.

    Ongoing case or not, Brodsky had plenty to say about it.

    “If I’d known they were going to do that, I would have filed (the motions) regularly,” he said. “That’s ridiculous.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hmmmmmm, is it commonplace to write the contents of a sealed motion on its envelope, or does that only happen in the case of Drew Peterson, where the sky is the limit as far as nonsense goes (!)

  32. “This was an investigation done by very competent Illinois State Police officers, they made the conclusion that this was an accident, it was an accident in 2004, and it’s an accident in 2010,” said newly added lawyer Joseph “The Shark” Lopez.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This would have been a really good line of Defense if indeed an investigation was done properly at the time, but if investigators themselves have sprouted utter nonsense and/or already admitted they didn’t follow procedures, let alone investigated anything, that leaves the Defense pretty empty handed, desperate and scrambling for a cake of killer soap – LOL !

  33. From Joe Hosey’s artiucle above:

    Despite Peterson and Savio engaging in a bitter divorce that was about to wrap up with Savio claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in the couple’s assets, state police insisted that she was the victim of a freak bathtub accident.

    I appreciate so much the more precise use of language now when Joe’s dealing with financial assets of married persons. Notice? It’s not that Drew’s afraid of losing “his” money or assets anymore, he’s flipping because she’s claiming her legal portion of shared assets.

    Thanks very much, Mr. Hosey.

  34. rescueapet :
    I’ve watched this video a couple of times now, and to say I’m flabbergasted with Atty Lopez’ comment “This was an investigation done by very competent Illinois State Police officers….”is an understatement. On this, he apparently bases his defense that once an accident, still an accident.
    Has he not yet gotten to the transcript from the hearsay proceedings where Sgt. Collins testified? Has he not gotten to the transcript where Illinois State Trooper Brian Falat testified? Or read the newspaper accounts of the testimony that filtered out into the public through the media, such as this:

    Ill. trooper describes Drew Peterson investigation
    By DON BABWIN
    JOLIET, Ill. (AP) – An Illinois State Police trooper involved in the original investigation of the 2004 death of Drew Peterson’s ex-wife testified Thursday that he quickly suspected it was a homicide, even though the lead investigator initially believed it was an accident.
    Master Sgt. Bryan Falat described an investigation in which Peterson’s colleagues at the Bolingbrook police department came and went from the home where Kathleen Savio’s body was found in a dry bathtub and in which Peterson was allowed to be with his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, as she was questioned. Falat said he told the lead investigator in Savio’s death about his concerns about the investigation.

    Are we to assume, when Brodsky says the jury is going to be expecting evidence, of which there is none, that they’re going to come up with this b.s. as though it’s to be taken as reliable, credible non-evidence?
    I can’t believe what I’m hearing from them. It’s as though they’re throwing stuff out there just for the shock of how goofy it sounds.

    Hi all. I think this is the reason for Abood to leave? no?

  35. Hi womenscorned. Looks like. I can’t see where they’re going with this. All they’ll accomplish here is accentuating (again) how poor the 2004 investigation was by putting it under scrutiny (again).

    They can’t win.

  36. Hi womenscorned!

    Yeah, I think it is a likely possibility that there was disagreement about the accidental death defense.

    Between the testimony of Dr. Jentzen, which was as convoluted as I’ve ever heard, and the testimony of some of the investigators involved, I can’t imagine why Brodsky and Lopez are so confident. Unless they’re going to put all of their eggs in the basket of Robert Deel, the moron that called himself an evidence technician. Are they so sure the jury is going to buy into his b.s. and ignore everyone and everything else? Seems like.

  37. Oh, and don’t forget one thing. Something Brodsky’s latest partners should be proud of. During one of the most important witness testimony moments for the defense in the hearsay proceedings, the testimony of Dr. Jentzen, Brodsky fell asleep. Imagine that.

    Do you wonder what Dr. Jentzen thought as he looked over at the lead counsel and saw him zzzzzzzzzz’ing while he was twisting and turning the truth?

  38. If you think about it JB’s obviously chosen the lazy lawyer way here. If you don’t intend to defend alibis, etc, there isn’t a whole lot to do. LOL

    Joel Brodsky has been tagged on Assbook.

  39. Just in case there’s anyone new reading here, I want to make sure I post links to things I happen to mention 🙂

    Accident theories

    On Wednesday, Jentzen concurred with the findings of three other forensic pathologists — including Baden — in figuring that Savio drowned.

    But Jentzen then unveiled a theory in which he said Savio might actually have suffered a heart attack and inhaled bathwater into her sinuses after she was already dead.

    He also speculated that she may have slipped, fallen, hit her head, passed out and drowned, or possibly fainted before falling and hitting her head.

    Drew Peterson’s lead attorney, Joel Brodsky, also had trouble maintaining consciousness during Wednesday’s hearing, as he repeatedly nodded off while Jentzen testified.

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/2054927,Peterson-hearing-pathologist_SCN021710.article

  40. Do you wonder what Brodsky would think, let alone do, if he caught a juror nodding off while his most important defense witness was testifying about Kathleen’s “accidental death?”

    Oh my.

  41. A very interesting story in Newsweek about bloggers and crime cases!!!! Also, congratulations to Web Sleuths, “an Internet forum for armchair detectives who analyze cases and post court filings.”

    *********************

    By Suzanne Smalley | Newsweek Web Exclusive
    May 18, 2010

    Would Bloggers Have Cracked Chandra’s Case?

    A reporter who covered 24-year-old intern Chandra Levy’s death looks at a new book about the case—and shares where the mainstream media went wrong.

    Excerpt

    Bloggers are unrestrained by the orthodoxies of the professional reporter. They don’t need to follow the conventions of the 800-word newspaper story and can instead toss out an idea in two sentences that will nonetheless spur national discussion. They can ask questions without necessarily supplying an answer. Critically, bloggers also do not typically rely on official sources for information. Reporters and their anonymous sources both benefit from the relationship. Reporters get exclusive information, which earns them promotions; sources weave narratives that serve their interests. This corrupting symbiosis makes the reporter all too quick to take an official’s word at face value.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/238159

  42. On some public blogs, any comment the least bit ‘off’ concerning the victim’s family is strictly verboten. Investigation is just that-it is not looking into some things, it’s looking into the whole.
    After all-“Corpus delecti” is the body of evidence that constitute the offence; the objective proof that a crime has been committed (sometimes mistakenly thought to refer to the body of a homicide victim!
    http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=corpus%20delicti
    Just like here the information is posted AND LINKED to the source. Instead of LE paying attention, some have ridiculed the bloggers and made nothing but disparaging remarks in the mainstream media. If they would look a **** of a lot closer at things, they would definitely learn a lot and get some eyes and maybe some minds opened.
    I am so glad to see this article. Am reposting and linking, if you don’t mind, Rescue.
    People who do not blog have no idea of the passion and commitment some bloggers possess.*
    *My opinion, of course, LOL.

  43. Hey everyone – we’ve gotten some information we can pass along.

    Drew Peterson’s court file has been “pulled,” which means it is no longer available for viewing.

    Possibly, it could mean one of two things. Either Judge White has made a decision about the hearsay testimony and is requiring that the whole file remain under seal from this point on, or, in light of the recent mishandling of defense motions, he’s keeping a tighter rein on the case.

  44. Oooh…sounds like fun! (Although that might not qualify for a chapter of Newsweek’s latest article.)

  45. rescueapet :Hey everyone – we’ve gotten some information we can pass along.
    Drew Peterson’s court file has been “pulled,” which means it is no longer available for viewing.
    Possibly, it could mean one of two things. Either Judge White has made a decision about the hearsay testimony and is requiring that the whole file remain under seal from this point on, or, in light of the recent mishandling of defense motions, he’s keeping a tighter rein on the case.

    IMO, its all of the above… He probably doesn’t want to ward off, not provide any reason for mistrial.

  46. I don’t mean to be suspicious of the defense team, but from our last topic:

    Lopez said he could not go into detail about the motions as they must be filed under seal.
    “I’d love to talk about the substance of these motions but I don’t think it would be appropriate at this time,” he said. “I can tell you one thing: They’ll be very interesting.”

    Now this information has been leaked and they are all upset. Just seems to me like something stinks. Of course, it could be that I just don’t care for sharks or jelly fish.

  47. On Nancy Grace, Bucket? I watched it, and watched the beginning twice, but didn’t get the connection. You can use my crayons but I need you to draw me a picture, I guess. Thanks in advance.

  48. Lopez did shed a bit of light on the confidential court filings, saying, “These motions attack some of the evidence” and that they “narrow the issues.” He also said prosecutors might have already received them and that they will be battled over in court.

    “Even a jury with preconceived notions is gonna want to hear some evidence, and when they hear none, that they are going to be convinced that the only possible verdict is not guilty,” Brodsky said.

    How to you attack something of which there is none?

  49. Lopez said he could not go into detail about the motions as they must be filed under seal.
    “I’d love to talk about the substance of these motions but I don’t think it would be appropriate at this time,” he said. “I can tell you one thing: They’ll be very interesting.”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lopez is right about one thing so far, that the motions are going to be “interesting”, considering all motions filed by the Defense Team so far have been “interesting”.

    Never relevant or concise, often grammatically poor and confusing, which automatically made them “interesting” from that point of view – LOL !

  50. LOL!!! So sorry, wrong link…I’ll see if I can find it. It was about a lady of a certain age and her friend identifying and turning in a lunatic who “helped” people commit suicide online.

  51. “He might still be operating were it not for the tenacity of a 64-year-old grandmother from Wiltshire. Celia Blay yesterday described the events that helped her unearth Mr Melchert-Dinkel’s alleged crimes.”

    http://tinyurl.com/364ct28

  52. Bucket! Thank you for that! Wow. And good on Celia Blay and her friends. What a story. And if the laws are vague on this I think they need to get specific in a hurry. And an ex-nurse, at that. I’d love to know that story. I’m going to sleuth this more. And he quit because of moral reasons? Yeah, right. Thanks again.

  53. See what can be achieved after years of practice using both sides of the brain at once? He…..n Powah!

  54. David XXXXX:
    People in the office have been talking about this lawyer show called, “the good wife” set in Chicago. This week, Tuesday I think, the episode was about “the Peterson” hearsay rule.

    Abood Law Firm:
    What is the Peterson case?

    David XXXXX:
    A case in Chicago being argued by this amazing lawyer, Joel A. Brodsky, he’s great.

    Abood Law Firm :
    I don’t know him.

    😉

  55. What I’m trying to get at here is just how long this trial will last. Subtracting all the stalling with motions and such. I would assume maybe a reporter would contact the States Attorneys office to get an estimate on the trial length. Or is this 2 week reporter person the one and same that may be talking to what Brodsky thinks,(thought) , been thinkin ? The answer to this question answers a lot of speculation. I don’t know how to find stuff on this site that you may know exist. I do know it exist so you either can or can’t find it. Thanks for trying. People suggested I ask you. So I did. By the way, Redhorse can kiss my butt.

  56. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

    WILL DRW PETERSON BE CHARGED WITH THE MURDER OF STACEY PETERSON??

    Steph Watts
    Date / Time: 5/23/2010 7:00 PM
    Category: Current Events
    Call-in Number: (646) 721-9430
    1023856

    Just weeks before Drew Peterson faces a jury for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, Peterson’s defense team is trying to silence Kathleen Savio one last time. Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s defense attorney, has filed a motion that the trial not include “any evidence that Kathleen Savio was fearful for her life or expressed to anyone any fears regarding physical danger from Drew Peterson.” “JUSTICE IS JUST A CLICK AWAY”

  57. DREW PETERSON: ARE CHARGES PENDING FOR STACY’S MURDER???
    May 22, 2010 – 3:43 am

    Just weeks before Drew Peterson faces a jury for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, Peterson’s defense team is trying to silence Kathleen Savio one last time. Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s defense attorney, has filed a motion that the trial not include “any evidence that Kathleen Savio was fearful for her life or expressed to anyone any fears regarding physical danger from Drew Peterson.”

    When I first started on the case, right after Stacey went missing, I remember being at Sharon Bychowski’s house — Peterson’s neighbor. Sharon was so kind to everyone, opening her home to the media, and literally, anyone who wanted to help find Stacy Peterson. It was Sharon who first tipped off Greta and myself that she feared Drew had killed Stacey, because Stacey had told Sharon she was afraid of her husband, was planning on leaving him, and feared her for her life.

    A few days into the disappearance of Stacey, Sharon had a house full of people, and I asked Sharon who the quiet woman with the dark hair by the window was, and she replied, “that’s Kathleen Savio’s sister, Kathleen was Drew’s third wife, she was found dead in the bathtub around the corner a few years ago.” “He probably killed her too,” Sharon added. I went over to her and the woman introduced herself as Anna Doman. When she learned who I was, she said she had something I might be interested in at her house — a box of stuff that belonged to her dead sister. Anna mixed no words when it came to Drew Peterson — she said that her sister’s death wasn’t an accident, and she knew who killed Kathleen. She believed it was Drew Peterson.

    When I arrived at Doman home the next day with Mark Fuhrman, what we saw was shocking. A box containing Kathleen Savio’s private notes, documenting police visits to the home on domestic violence related issues, all acompanying legal documents, and a detailed handwritten diary documenting abuse by Drew Peterson. Anna said the police had never been interested in the writings, because Savio’s death was classified an accident. Also tucked inside the box was a copy of Savio’s autopsy report. Once we aired these notes on Greta’s show, and Dr. Micheal Baden concluded from viewing the autopsy report that Savio’s death was not an accident, but indeed a homicide, all hell broke loose to say the least. The State was forced to exhume the body of Kathleen Savio under intense media pressure, and the police finally came by and collected the box of Savio’s notes. It is these notes that Brodsky doesn’t want a jury to see. I can understand why he doesn’t — I have read them all, and they are very damaging to Peterson, they are very telling as to what really happened to Kathleen Savio.

    Also, this Sunday at 8:00 p.m. on my radio show, we will be discussing why Peterson has NOT been charged with the murder of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, who is still missing. Are prosecutors waiting for the outcome of the Savio case before charging Peterson with Stacy Peterson’s disappearance?? Perhaps a very smart move on their part. Join my legal panel for the discussion and find out why.

    Joining me tonight are Dr. Brian Russell. Dr Russell is a Forensic Psychologist and an Attorney and expert counsel in court cases that involve mental issues.

    And Charlie Doman. Charlie is the nephew of Kathleen Savio and also worked for Drew Peterson for years at the bar he owned.

    http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/drew-peterson-are-charges-pending-for-stacys-murder/

  58. I just listened to Steph Watts’ Blogtalk show online

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this

    Click on the story in the little window at the top. I had to download it to my Real player.

    It was worth the listen. Sue did a cracking job.

    It may be controversial, but I’m totally with Charlie Doman regarding the accountability of the shit-for-brains/perjuring State policeman who testified at the coroner’s court that they were waiting for the phone record….the before-and-after appearance of the towels, the mystery of the bagged hands, the removal of the officer who questioned the procedure… It’s not looking, waddling or quacking like mere incompetence. Stopping short of a thorough investigation by an outside agency is not only denying Drew’s victims authentic justice, but justice for all the citizens who are paying their defenders to break the rules and laugh at them. I appreciate that it’s not on the table at this time, but IMO it’s certainly not OK to brush Charlie off with justice against Drew as being enough. The people who failed in their due care and attention both before and after should have to face the music. Public flogging. At least some public rebuke.

  59. I listened to the show this morning. See how we can agree to disagree? I was totally unimpressed and disappointed in this hour of, of, of, ……

    But, when Sue Savio was given an opportunity to speak after she called into the show, I think it bears repeating that she graciously and appropriately tried to keep in touch with her nephews, Tom and Kris. She wrote a letter, I believe she said, requesting a meeting with all of the involved parties, and went through the proper channels of having her attorney contact Brodsky/Peterson about a meeting that would include the boys. She just wanted to see if they were okay, and she was willing to abide by whatever restrictions there would have been to avoid discussing their mother and father.

    Brodsky responded with Drew’s message. It was no. Something like … you’re only about the money, you’ve always been about the money.

    Imagine that, coming from Drew Peterson, whose relationship with his ex-wife’s money situation we know all about! As though no one can see through his conniving ways and realize he keeps his kids from any family members who aren’t in line with HIS way of thinking.

    IMO – he’s evil. There’s much more love, joy and happiness in life than remaining under the control of Drew Peterson. His track record of destroying families and relationships is undisputed.

  60. I’ll just say that the Watts show was a “difficult” listen. Besides technical issues, there seemed to be as many barking dogs on the line as people at any given time. However, Sue Savio’s contribution to the discussion was excellent and I would have liked to have heard more from her. As for the boys, Charlie Doman brought up the fact that Kathleen’s oldest son will soon be 18 and able to choose for himself if he wants contact with his mom’s family.

    The doctor/attorney guest made some interesting legal points that were new to me. He talked about the evidence that the defense is trying to suppress, specifically “any evidence that Kathleen Savio was fearful for her life or expressed to anyone any fears regarding physical danger from Drew Peterson,”. The expert explained that the judge needs to weigh the probative value against the prejudicial value and determine whether or not it will be admitted. Evidence should help to prove that the crime was committed rather than prejudice the jury against the defendant unduly. That seems like a really fine line to me!

  61. I’m sure this is pretty elementary stuff for legal types, but as I’m not one, I found it helpful!

    Relevance, in the common law of evidence, is the tendency of a given item of evidence to prove or disprove one of the legal elements of the case, or to have probative value to make one of the elements of the case likelier or not. Probative is a term used in law to signify “tending to prove.”Probative evidence “seeks the truth”. Generally in law, evidence that is not probative (prejudicial evidence), or doesn’t prove anything, is inadmissible and the rules of evidence permit it to be excluded from a proceeding or stricken from the record “if objected to by opposing counsel.”A balancing test may come in to the picture if the value of the evidence needs to be weighed versus its prejudicial nature.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance_(law)

  62. Good point about the doctor/attorney guest, Facs. Yes, he was very concise about his explanation as to prejudicial evidence versus probative evidence.

    Sure seems to me that when Kathleen went to an ER after an evening of being a Drew Peterson punching bag, and told the ER physician that she was physically abused by her husband as the reason for her appearing for treatment, that is certainly probative and relevant, IMO!

  63. This might be helpful as well:

    Relevant evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of:

    — unfair prejudice;
    — confusion of the issues;
    — misleading the jury;
    — considerations of undue delay;
    — waste of time; or
    — needless presentation of cumulative evidence.

  64. You guys are right about the show itself, I meant to say it was worth the listen chiefly to hear what Sue and Charlie had to say.

  65. ****WARNING – GET YOUR BARF BAG READY****

    Drew stripped The Peterson file . . .

    May 25, 2010

    BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

    Sneed hears accused wife murderer Drew Peterson, who is facing trial June 14, was strip searched and his cell was searched by a posse of Will County sheriff’s deputies looking for contraband last week, according to a source.

    • The upshot: The strip search reportedly prompted Peterson to say something like: “Why are you guys staring at my manhood? You interested in knowing why I do so well with women?”

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/2312982,CST-NWS-SNEED25.article

  66. Source: Chicago Sun Times
    January 10, 2010
    Michael Sneed

    The Peterson case . . .

    Sneed is told that accused wife murderer Drew Peterson was recently treated for a skin rash from the industrial detergent used to clean jail clothes.

    • Sob story: Walter Maksym, one of Peterson’s attorneys, tells Sneed that Peterson is being held in such close confinement, “I couldn’t even bring him a cookie for Christmas when I visited him.”

    • Hmmm. Why is my hankie still in my purse?

  67. There was a huge case in Will County in 2006 regarding unjustified strip searches. The case was settled with over $2 million paid out to over a thousand former inmates, so you can rest assured that this was no random check. The authorities had reason to believe there was contraband on Drew’s person.

    Last December, U.S. District Judge Robert Gettleman ruled that jailers violated the rights of many inmates in Will County Jail by strip searching them. He ruled the searches could be allowed only when jail officials had reasonable suspicion to believe an inmate was carrying contraband, such as drugs or weapons.

    http://www.legalradar.com/2006/09/215-million-award-for-inmates-in-will-county-strip-search-case.html

  68. OMG, I tried so hard to not do this-I said, “Get behind me, Satan” and I bit my tongue and pleaded for some decency, but as you can see, nothing worked.
    In response to Drewpy’s question during the strip search, I just have to say that the ‘contraband’ must have been itemized as so minuscule it was overlooked. 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Now I’m off to the naughty mat-but oh, was it worth it. LOL!

  69. I’d like to think Chrissy knows better than to be bringing in contraband…

    May 2, 2010
    BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

    Drew stew . . .

    . . . and a pow wow! Murder suspect Drew Peterson won’t be there, but the cadre of lawyers he calls “The Magnificent Seven” or “The Seven Samurai” met at table No. 1 at Tavern on Rush on Friday night to huddle before their final legal lap next month.

    • Background: Peterson, who has been in solitary confinement at the Joliet detention center since last May, is set for trial June 14 for the 2004 bathtub death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

    • Foreground: The latest legal team, which is headed by Joel Brodsky, consists of various attorneys who have represented mobsters and murderers and civil attorney Walter Maksym.

    • The kicker: Sneed is told the only place Peterson, who is also being investigated in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy, can go outside his cell is the medical pod section of the detention facility, which is the only co-ed area!

    Coo corner: Sneed hears Peterson and Chrissy Raines, 25, his on-again/off-again fiancee, are not only on friendly terms once more, but she was spotted visiting him at the detention facility last week.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/2222440,CST-NWS-SNEED02.article

  70. 80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/26/year-old-chicago-man-kills-armed-home-invader/

    “…A high-profile Chicago attorney has already stepped forward offering to represent the man pro bono if he faces charges for possessing a weapon.

    “Self defense isn’t just a right, it’s a duty,” said attorney Joel Brodsky. “If this man is prosecuted for saving his own life it’s not just a travesty, it’s justice turned inside out.”

  71. Ha, ha.

    Judging by Brodsky’s record with Peterson, I’d say this man better run those 80 year old legs as fast as he can in the opposite direction of where this “high profile Chicago attorney” is going!

    Free legal representation? Yeah, boy, just sign right there on the dotted line, and get taken to places you’ve never been before. Brodskyland.

  72. BTW, Mayor Daley, who was miffed at a reporter recently for suggesting his strong stance on Chicago’s gun ban isn’t working, offered to place the barrel of a gun in the reporter’s lower orifice to see if that would show how his gun ban is working, so Brodsky might want to make sure his upper piehole is ready for kinky things when dealing with the Mayor of Chicago.

    Just sayin……..

  73. I didn’t understand Joel’s comment about self-defense being a duty.

    “Self-defense isn’t just a right, it’s a duty,” said attorney Joel Brodsky. “If this man is prosecuted for saving his own life it’s not just a travesty, it’s justice turned inside out.”

  74. So…according to Joel, if I have a gun pointed to my head and I comply with a robber, I’m not doing my duty? I’m under some obligation to punch him in the kidneys, even though he’ll probably shoot me? That’s silly.

  75. See, the thing with Brodsky is this.

    If the law of order works one way, he goes the other!

    Let his client, Peterson, yap it up for two years in the media, possibly to his detriment. We’ll see.

    Made a big stink in the news about his client, who’s been charged with the beating death of her 2-year old niece, being subjected to removing her religious head covering for her mug shot. How they humiliated her, even though she murdered an innocent baby who wasn’t able to defend herself. Didn’t offer one word of sympathy in the media, but spewed for days about how his client’s rights were violated. Didn’t give a rat’s ass about the baby’s death.

    With his client Reyes, they called in a camera and news crew to film the defiance of a court order. Reyes was bound by court order, before having his defense heard through the process, to avoid taking his daughter to a Catholic Church. They played by their own rules. Reyes won the right to take his daughter to church, but still has a contempt charge to contend with. He got Brodsky the publicity he was seeking though. But, Brodsky’s not the one that will possibly suffer the consequences. Reyes will.

    Now, this poor elderly man comes along, and he’ll probably be fed to the wolves because he’s big news. Publicity. Recognition. When Brodsky is finished with him, this elderly man will pay the piper.

    Geesh.

  76. Brodsky and Odeh said the removal of the Hijab and other forms of pressure “were used to humiliate her” into providing an “alleged confession” to the child’s murder.

    “I don’t know how many members of the Orland Park Police Department have served in Iraq or are a part of the military either the guard or full time,” Brodsky said Sunday during a telephone interview. “But this whole thing smacks of what happened at Abu Ghraib.

    http://swside.blogspot.com/2009/04/lawyers-insist-woman-accused-of-killing.html

    *****************

    Man faces contempt charges for taking daughter to church

    Jeffery Leving, a divorce lawyer who specializes in fathers’ rights, said he would recommend that Joseph Reyes convert back to Catholicism if he wanted to expose his daughter to his faith without further incurring the judge’s wrath. He also questioned whether excluding his estranged wife from religious decisions and inviting the news media to watch him defy a judge’s order was truly “in the best interest of the child or is this a PR circus?”

    “This is parental war,” Leving said. “The parents are using the child as a tool of revenge.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/man-faces-contempt-charges-for-taking-daughter-to-church.html

    ***********************

    Gun charges reinstituted against Drew Peterson
    February 15, 2010

    An Illinois appeals court has shot down a Will County judge’s decision that resulted in illegal-gun charges being dropped against Drew Peterson.

    Judge Richard Schoenstedt erred in ruling more than a year ago that Peterson’s attorneys were to be allowed access to various prosecution documents in pursuit of their contention that the prosecution of Peterson on the gun charge was vindictive and selective, the court ruled.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/gun-charges-reinstituted-against-drew-peterson.html

    Good lawyering? Ha.

  77. facsmiley :
    So…according to Joel, if I have a gun pointed to my head and I comply with a robber, I’m not doing my duty? I’m under some obligation to punch him in the kidneys, even though he’ll probably shoot me? That’s silly.

    That’s what it sounds like to me too. LOL

  78. It’s very clear to me that Brodsky is about one thing and it isn’t “justice” — it’s Brodsky. He’s told us himself what he likes about lawyerin’ and it sure isn’t defending the constitution:

    Asked what makes him proud professionally, Brodsky said: “When I’m able to protect people who are innocent and charged with a crime.”

    He paused to reconsider his answer.

    “Innocence is a strange word,” he continued. “People who the government can’t prove did the crime, or did something bad or committed an offense, and they take them to trial anyway and I win. That’s my proudest accomplishment.”

    How icky that he’ll jump on anything these days that looks like it could be high-profile or get him to the supreme court. If only he had the experience to back up that kind of defense. Imagine if that poor old man had been charged and accepted the offer of pro bono representation from LeBrodsque. He’d be trotted all over the country on a media blitz and forced to plug whatever sidelines Joel is currently involved in. I actually feel bad for the people who might sign on with him just because they’re dazzled by the B.S.

  79. You’re right, Rescue.
    All primed for a fight and there ain’t one.
    Lazy man’s ambulance chase. Just sit in your air conditioned office and read the news online, then email the reporter.

  80. I think it’s time for this trial to start, and all of this sideshow stuff to end. Looks like that’s going to happen too, since there’s been no indication that the trial is going to be delayed.

    🙂

  81. Drew Peterson Lawyers Seek Trial Delay

    Updated: Friday, 28 May 2010, 8:09 AM CDT
    Published : Friday, 28 May 2010, 8:09 AM CDT

    FOX Chicago News

    Chicago – Lawyers for Drew Peterson head to court Friday, trying to get a delay in Peterson’s trial, scheduled to begin June 14.

    Peterson is accused of killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio, in 2004.

    Her body was found in a dry bathtub when the couple was going through a contentious divorce.

    Peterson maintains he had nothing to do with her death, or the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy.

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/drew_peterson/drew-peterson-trial-delay-052810

  82. Hmmmm – I still think Drew would want to get this over with as quickly as possible and I thought Team Drew Part Deux said they were fully ready to proceed. I am sure it will be interesting to hear the reason and see what the judge does as delays in the trial likely mean repooling a group of potential jurors which could delay things past the judges planned retirement day. Maybe spinning the wheel and getting a different judge is the hopes of the defense team??

  83. I would bet odds that the State is going to push for NO delay and are ready to go. Which means the defense isn’t.

    Don’t know if today’s proceedings will be open to the reporters or not, but you know if they are, we’ll sure hear about it, one way or the other.

  84. I think they hoped to see Judge White off. They’re not ready? They’ll never be ready.I think Will Co. Jail is bound to be more comfortable than a State Prison for Drew, and the way some lawyers look at it a delay means their client is at least not convicted yet.

    We don’t want delay, do we? Enough is enough. Sheesh.

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