Search for Stacy Peterson expected to resume…but not today

UPDATE (1:09 CST):  Fox Chicago reports that forensic anthropologist, Alan Harn, says only opossum bones were turned up Saturday after digging in three locations where cadaver dogs had indicated.

However, he stated today that investigators have a “really good” lead and that he recommended they return to the area with ground penetrating radar.


Illinois State Police have stated that they have no plans for any activity in the Peoria area today, but that they will continue to follow up on a lead that sent them there Friday to dig for the remains of Stacy Peterson.

Spokeperson, Sgt. Tom Burek told the press last night that the tip received was, “credible enough that we’re here. There’s investigators from the Chicago Metropolitan Area, and part of that team that are here.”

We’ll continue to update the blog with any news we hear. Check out the comment thread for discussion and the latest updates.

Read about the search at CBS2 Chicago.

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306 thoughts on “Search for Stacy Peterson expected to resume…but not today

  1. I apologise for speculating and inflicting it on you, lol Brisk walk in the rain will sort me out.

  2. We got an email with some interesting information regarding the area that was being searched. I’m not posting this in order to open up the thread to speculation, but I did find it interesting and agree that Drew may be familiar with that airport and the group since he flies an ultralite. But who knows…:

    There is a small airport just to the east of the search area. The road the farm they are searching is on leads into another road that goes right by the airport. Mt Hawley Auxiliary Airport. They have a chapter of EAA there – Experimental Aircraft Association…

    Here is the Website for the EAA chapter: http://www.eaa563.org/ and here http://www.eaa563.org/Chapter%20Information.htm

    I wonder if any of those officers remember DP visiting them down there.

    Thanks for the information!

  3. Synopsis of Joe Hosey’s report on MSNBC:

    There is no jail house snitch; LE developed a lead through an informant that Stacy’s body might be on this farm. They’ve left the site under guard, and may be back sometime this week. It may be that this information didn’t pan out to be the thing they thought it was.

    JH was asked if this could be someone who knew Drew? JH’s response was that it might be someone who knew Drew; a third hand report.

  4. So, listening and seeing all of the current information, what Joe Hosey reported does make sense. They received what they thought could be a credible tip on where Peterson may have disposed of Stacy’s remains. They followed-up on it with the initial resources they thought they’d need, but seem to have come-up empty handed. They appear to want to clear the area and look further, but, at this point, the initial TMZ reports were certainly not accurate as far as how this all goes.

    Still, maybe there is hope that they will find something important. No point in creating wild speculation.

  5. I think someone wanted what was meant to be a quiet event to turn into a media biggie, and, even though Mr. Brodsky says it’s the State’s doing to muck up his client, maybe it was he who contacted TMZ. Maybe he knew, from his “sources” that this was going to take place, and he knew it was a 50/50 chance it might turn out to be nothing more than what past tips came up with. So, he now turns it into the State’s doing, when, if you want to be open-minded about it, could very well be the defense playing the hand.

    If nothing else, the defense is certainly going to use this to their advantage. How convenient.

    There are some that shouldn’t look through their “red” colored glasses while riding their horse. :-)

  6. It certainly wouldn’t cost the defense team any money or resources to make a phone call to a celebrity media group to tip them to an event such as this. Certainly, the cost of a phone call is a lot less than LE paying out thousands of dollars in resources to dirty up a two-bit, has-been ex-sergeant who is facing murder charges.

    But that takes intelligent thought, something that the defense and those that follow them don’t have.

    Hardy, har har.

  7. Rescue, I agree, and said yesterday that it would, theorectically, be just as feasible for all of this to have come from the defense, as easily as Brodsky was claiming that it was a ruse by the prosecution. We all know Brodsky just blows hot air, regardless of which way the wind blows. Still, I truly hope something does materialize from of all this for the benefit of Stacy’s family, as well as to seal Drew’s fate for the rest of his life.

  8. The timing of all this is right after the defense didn’t get the extension they wanted so I couldn’t help but be suspicious, but I can’t get past the fact that dogs hit on something, so it would seem somebody’s remains are there.

  9. You’re right song. There are just too many things to consider either way, and we’re all just going to have to wait and see how if all plays out. You never really know with this case and the inaccuracies reported by some of the media. One thing is for sure….you can’t believe half of what you read and hear.

  10. I’m very much in “wait and see” mode. I don’t have a basis for even guessing what the truth is with this situation and the numerous conflicting reports have me feeling especially guarded.

  11. I am here to say I am not doubting that this is a legitimate tip about the property. I am here to say the contacting of TMZ is suspect!

    Do the math.

  12. I found this in the comments on TMZ this morning. Thought it would help.

    59. the guy that leaked info to the police lives on west james road in peoria. a week ago, he was arrested for beating his ex girlfriend and her current boyfriend in a chicago house. in an attempt to get off of those charges, he told cops he had info on the drew peterson case and that is how they came to this place for the search.

    Posted at 7:36 PM on Jun 5, 2010 by peoria resident

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/05/drew-peterson-stacy-peterson-body-search-scene-photos-peoria-illinois/4/#comments

    Could make some sense.

  13. Here’s another person’s info on the arrest.

    Michael B. Lashmett, 40, of the 2800 block of West James Road, Peoria, has been charged with home invasion, violation of an order of protection and domestic battery, Batavia police report. He is accused of breaking in to the home of an ex-girlfriend on the 900 block of Ekman Drive and beating her at 12:30 a.m. May 22. Lashmett turned himself in to Batavia police May 28. He is being held in the Kane County jail on $750,000 bail

    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=385849

    Peoria man arrested in Batavia for attacking ex-girlfriend

    Authorities in the Kane County community of Batavia have arrested a Peoria man for allegedly attacking and threatening to kill his ex-girlfriend.

    Batavia Police Detective Kevin Bretz says 42 year old Michael Lashmett turned himself into authorities last Friday on an outstanding warrant for his arrest. Lashmett is accused of breaking into the victim’s home in Batavia about 12:30am May 22nd and assaulting her. Lashmett also allegedly threatened to kill her and her family during the attack and via phone after he fled the scene.

    He made an initial court appearance following his arrest where he was charged with home invasion, battery and violating an order of protection that had been in effect since last December.

    Lashmett is being held at the Kane County Jail on $750,000 bond.

    http://www.1470wmbd.com/Peoria-man-arrested-in-Batavia-for-attacking-ex-gi/7368657

  14. With Facs’ approval, I did contact “Eyes for Lies” last night, and she very graciously answered my email, but stated, “Also, so you know, I typically don’t comment on the behavior/actions of lawyers because I believe both sides of the system need representation, otherwise we wouldn’t have a legal system.”
    She added, “Thanks for talking about me in different forums. I appreciate it.”
    So, sorry. No opinions there, but I thought it was very cordial of her not only to answer, but to answer so promptly and courteously.
    We’ll just have to keep looking and using our own intelligence. I emailed her back and told her I agreed with her 100% on both sides needing competent counsel.
    Competent being the key word, here, of course, ;).

  15. Interesting thought Rescue. Brodsky is probably behind it getting on TMZ. Definitely fits his MO.

    I am going to stay optimistic that something will come of this search.

  16. zbunny :I found this in the comments on TMZ this morning. Thought it would help.

    59. the guy that leaked info to the police lives on west james road in peoria. a week ago, he was arrested for beating his ex girlfriend and her current boyfriend in a chicago house. in an attempt to get off of those charges, he told cops he had info on the drew peterson case and that is how they came to this place for the search.
    Posted at 7:36 PM on Jun 5, 2010 by peoria resident

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/05/drew-peterson-stacy-peterson-body-search-scene-photos-peoria-illinois/4/#comments
    Could make some sense.

    Does make sense if this guy knew Drew and/or Drew ever helped him “get out” of trouble in the past. Otherwise, I couldn’t imaging how this guy would be considered a “credible” lead if he was in fact the one to bring this to authority attention as stated above.

  17. Well, whether this is true or not, it fits in with the jailhouse snitch wild story. As to whether it’s a credible link, certainly one would hope LE did the pre-reqs first. Although, again, it could have been done quietly, without someone calling TMZ.

    So, even if he has some long lost link to DP, that doesn’t mean the remains are out there either. Boob criminals will say anything to get their butts some leniency.

  18. Sureyouwill, not that you can believe it, but it has been reported that the person who notified authorities had second hand knowledge, not first hand, so this guy may have only known someone that knew Drew, and what Drew had done with Stacy’s body. None of it is looking very good to me right now though, as far as being terribly credible information. Hopefully, I’m wrong.

  19. Ah, that’s right, CFS, a secondhand individual contacted LE, and they, in turn, must have then sought out this guy.

    But, many versions are swirling. Now, I’m sure it will be developed.. ;-)

  20. cheryljones :With Facs’ approval, I did contact “Eyes for Lies” last night, and she very graciously answered my email, but stated, “Also, so you know, I typically don’t comment on the behavior/actions of lawyers because I believe both sides of the system need representation, otherwise we wouldn’t have a legal system.”She added, “Thanks for talking about me in different forums. I appreciate it.”So, sorry. No opinions there, but I thought it was very cordial of her not only to answer, but to answer so promptly and courteously.We’ll just have to keep looking and using our own intelligence. I emailed her back and told her I agreed with her 100% on both sides needing competent counsel.Competent being the key word, here, of course, .

    Okay, now it’s time for everyone to point and laugh….

    Who is “Eyes for Lies”? She some kind of private detective?

  21. Expert: Peterson Search Found Only Opossum Bones

    Updated: Monday, 07 Jun 2010, 12:54 PM CDT
    Published : Monday, 07 Jun 2010, 12:48 PM CDT
    Associated Press

    Lewistown, Ill. – An anthropologist who helped authorities search a central Illinois location for the remains of Drew Peterson’s fourth wife says he found only opossum bones

    But anthropologist Alan Harn believes authorities have a “really good” tip about Stacy Peterson, who disappeared in 2007. He’s advised investigators to return to the area near Peoria with a device that gets images of what’s underground.

    Harn told The Associated Press on Monday that he excavated three sites on Saturday identified by cadaver-sniffing dogs.

    Drew Peterson is a suspect in Stacy Peterson’s disappearance. He’s in custody at the Will County Jail while awaiting trial for the murder of a previous wife. He’s denied wrongdoing.

    Harn says the tip about the site came from “a representative” of someone in jail. He declined to say more.

    From above link.

  22. A representative of someone in jail…..

    Hrrm….that could only be an attorney, I would think. What other kind of “representative” would an inmate have?? (smirk….I can think of one, but won’t go there.)

  23. rescueapet :Ah, that’s right, CFS, a secondhand individual contacted LE, and they, in turn, must have then sought out this guy.
    But, many versions are swirling. Now, I’m sure it will be developed..

    Rescue, from what I gather, this guy that zbunny posted about seems to be the second hand guy. In other words, he was arrested (or turned himself in, it seems) and in order to get his charges reduced told police he knew someone who knew where Stacy was, and that person was located and subsequently took police to the area…or at least that seems to be the case to me, but gosh, who knows in this crazy mess what’s what, or who’s who?

  24. cfs — that seems to be right. I believe the original TMZ article spoke about a jailhouse inmate who led police to the “accomplice,” and once that accomplice was found, HE was the one who led police to the site.

  25. Altgranny – Maybe since this is developing, it’s best to wait for the real version, so we don’t get so much speculation. When this was first posted, we contacted Joe Hosey about the blog information, and he said he’d check into this. I think that would be the more resourceful thing to do rather than theorize who it “could” only be.

  26. “Michael Lashmett” looks very familiar. It will be interesting to see if he does in fact have any connection Drew, or any of his connections. Problem with that comment, and leak is you never know who was behind that to make it look like something else, trying to make the ISP look like idiots. I will admit though that name, and face is very familiar.

  27. Good point, Lorie. It always could bea false leak, but LE and the forensics guy both said it was compelling enough to bring them all out on a rainy Saturday.

    While we’re mentioning false tips, I’d hate to see someone’s name brought into things if it turns out they have nothing to do with the story. That’s why we’ve passed this info on and are hoping we’ll get either a confirmation or denial.

    We (Justice Cafe) aren’t saying that this guy is or is not involved in the tip — not yet.

  28. If this really is the chap, they’ve probably been able to confirm some connection/s mutual contacts and so forth….and had a look at his cellphone records.

  29. Why the Stacy Peterson disappearance troubles us

    Whether or not the search resumes for the remains of Stacy Peterson on farmland in rural Peoria County, Illinois, the story stirkes a chord across the country — largely because of feelings about her husband, suspect Drew Peterson.

    Drew Peterson is facing trial for the murder of his third wife. Stacy was his fourth.

    A Trib Nation poll over the weekend found 19 percent of people watch the case out of a sense of justice. Another 14 percent are haunted by earlier complaints about Drew Peterson that they believe weren’t thoroughly investigated because he served on the police force.

    Smaller percentages watch because of concern for Stacy Peterson or her family, or simply because they disapprove of Drew Peterson’s public grandstanding,

    But the vast majority — 58 percent — said those factors were impossible to separate as they considered why they kept tabs on this story. Readers also weighed in with further explanations in the comments:

    “I’m tired of men killing or hurting women and getting away with it, and Drew Peterson’s hubris is symptomatic of a culture that tolerates this,” wrote reader Currer.

    Check out the comments on our previous item. Take the poll yourself:

    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/tribnation/2010/06/why-the-stacy-peterson-disappearance-troubles-us.html

  30. Right, exactly, at this point I’m more to the nay that this is the guy who did it. I guess we wait though to find out though. Strange things have happened in this case you just never know.

  31. PublicityAgency: Client Joel Brodsky on #HLN tonight Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell to talk Drew #Peterson case.

    WHAT happened to the GAG ORDER? I hope they invited the anthropologist as well or it’s going to be very boring. Blah, blah, blah, rumor. Blah, blah, blah, innuendo. Blah, blah, blah, dirty Drew.

  32. Prosecutors: Search won’t delay Peterson trial

    Associated Press – June 7, 2010 2:44 PM ET

    JOLIET, Ill. (AP) – A spokesman for the Will County state’s attorney’s office says a search for the remains of former police officer Drew Peterson’s fourth wife won’t delay Peterson’s upcoming trial for the murder of his third wife.

    Spokesman Chuck Pelkie said Monday prosecutors plan to move forward with the scheduled July 8 date.

    Investigators on Saturday searched a remote location near Peoria for the remains of Stacy Peterson, who disappeared in 2007.

    An anthropologist who excavated three spots on Saturday says he found only animal bones. He’s advised investigators to return to the area with a device that gets images of what’s underground.

    Drew Peterson is a suspect in Stacy Peterson’s disappearance. He’s in custody at the Will County Jail awaiting trial for the murder of a previous wife. He’s denied any wrongdoing.

    http://www.kwqc.com/Global/story.asp?S=12608100

  33. OMG, Joel has found a way to get back in front of the cameras and onto TV talk shows. Maybe they will powder his shiny dome and smear his liver spotted face with makeup before he appears on JVM tonight. He was sure concerned about his looks before he sat down for his last interview. The thing is, we all probably already know what he’s going to say before he evens open his mouth.

  34. facsmiley :

    PublicityAgency: Client Joel Brodsky on #HLN tonight Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell to talk Drew #Peterson case.

    WHAT happened to the GAG ORDER? I hope they invited the anthropologist as well or it’s going to be very boring. Blah, blah, blah, rumor. Blah, blah, blah, innuendo. Blah, blah, blah, dirty Drew.

    I think the gag order pertains to the Savio case. That came from Judge White and he has no jurisdiction over anything that may have happened to Stacy.

  35. And what’s worse, CFS, is these cable news shows are always about a day and a half late with their information so the show is just insufferable to watch. Maybe someone should email the HLN producers with Lashmett’s name so she can ask Joel if Drew knows him because I really am not going to tune in just to hear him read his Press Release (I worked really hard on it) from Saturday. Old news.

  36. atlgranny :

    I think the gag order pertains to the Savio case. That came from Judge White and he has no jurisdiction over anything that may have happened to Stacy.

    There’s no indication which case Joel is going to be discussing on the show and since Stacy Peterson’s hearsay statements may very well be a part of the Savio case, they should be covered as well. Besides, as it has been noted, Joel has used every interview regarding Stacy Peterson as an excuse to comment about the upcoming trial, how they are all looking forward to it and how there’s never been one ‘factual piece of evidence’ regarding the death of Kathleen Savio. The Judge’s ruling was that anyone involved in the case needs to get the Judge’s approval before every interview. I only hope that is happening.

    http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/drew-peterson-denied-bond-reduction/

  37. Folks, just a reminder to refrain from baiting or trolling. If you are stating opinion please identify it as such (IMO, etc.) and allow others to have theirs. No need to argue on points of opinion. No need to argue on every point, period.

    Also, please remember to back up your facts with links to the sources.

    Lastly, in order not to clutter up the thread, please make sure that news stories contain new info before posting.

    Thanks!

  38. Facs, all I can say is, he better not gripe in front of Judge White about not having enough time to prepare for the July 8th trial date, when he’s spending so much time in front of a camera instead of his office working on getting ready for court. And yeah, you’re right…tonight will be the same old, same old. He’s like a broken record.

  39. A little funny haha… I loved when Joel kept reiterating basically that this isn’t the only case he has. ‘Well which case are you refering to? I have a lot of clients… Oh, you mean Peterson?’ Yea, right you’re so skilled, busy and wanted by all crimnals in need of a supposed “defense” attorney! NOT!

  40. Here is a coincidence. I’m still not saying there is any proven connection between Lashmett and Drew Peterson however it’s interesting to note that:

    Lashmett’s attorney is Gary V. Johnson, who was on Peterson’s very first defense team with Morelli:

    “When, following Stacy’s disappearance, Peterson first fell under suspicion for murdering at least two wives, he hired Fred Morelli and Gary Johnson, who accompanied him to a November 2007 grand jury appearance.”

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/drew_peterson/20100429-peterson-new-attorneys

  41. Next thing you know, he’ll have to refer to an electronic memory aid to find out Peterson, who? I hope he’s got them all listed in alphabetical order for easy retrieval. He could even list his excuses and denials-then he’d only have to consult it and call out, “#3. #7…#9″. I don’t think he has more than 10-he just keeps recycling them. And hey-if they’ve worked for Drewfus (I loved that) they’ll work for any of his esteemed clients-right?

  42. Does anyone else besides me wonder why the ISP makes a mess of these events? I mean, okay, maybe they weren’t counting on this information getting out as it did, but why not just admit what it’s about? Like, we’ve gotten what we feel is a credible lead/tip where the remains of Stacy Peterson may be buried, we check all credible leads/tips, and we will make a formal announcement regarding our findings when we have additional information to share.

    You know, do it like other police organizations do it when giving conferences, keeping people informed in a professional way. Instead, Burek is always clarifying what he didn’t say when the press gets it wrong, because they don’t get correct and complete information like they should. Everything with this ISP press stuff is a big secret, with double talk.

    Like, he tried to explain to the press people he didn’t say they were looking for Stacy. But they were/are. He seemed to imply they weren’t coming back with additional equipment, but the anthropologist says they are. Maybe they are, maybe they’re not, but all Burek did was make a mess of explaining it. No one has the same story at the same time!

    If this doesn’t turn out to be the week Stacy is found, they move on. Instead, they hold press conferences to confuse the issue even more.

    Geesh.

  43. I think TMZ really threw all the birds in the air. The site being so far away from BB, they may have hoped to keep it dark for the sake of the investigation and the trial.

  44. Hey – if anyone is watching Jane Velez-Mitchell, I feel sorry for you, as I do for myself.

    They are reporting the search is based on the false information from TMZ that has already been clarified. They make light of how a prison inmate could be the informant, when Drew is in isolation. Brodsky just repeated his script that he’s been using the last couple of days. Just another tip that leads to nothing.

    Wow, do I regret thinking this was going to be something worth watching.

  45. Why am I watching Brodfus (kinda goes with Drewfus) again? He just said women leave their kids and husbands all the time – Then brought up that woman a month or so ago who did exactly that.

    Must turn the channel!

    Glad I made y’all smile earlier! :)

  46. Then someone said there couldn’t be another accomplice because Tom Morphey claims to have moved the barrel and Drew can’t have two accomplices. As if this is a conflict? Morphey only confessed to moving the container from the bedroom of the house to the Denali. I watched the majority of the show on mute but I really should have muted the Peterson section. Horrible.

  47. Dig for Stacy Peterson turns up possum skeletons

    June 7, 2010

    BY DAN ROZEK AND JOE HOSEY Staff Reporters

    The weekend search for Stacy Peterson on a wooded parcel outside Peoria turned up two possum skeletons and a makeshift drainage trench, but no trace of the missing Bolingbrook woman, an anthropologist said Monday.

    Even the animal skeletons discovered during the day of digging were 40 to 50 years old — indicating nothing had been buried there more recently.

    “There was nothing fresh at all,” said anthropologist Alan Harn, an assistant curator at the Dickson Mounds Museum near downstate Lewistown who frequently assists the State Police on searches.

    The 23-year-old Peterson hasn’t been seen since she vanished from her suburban home in October 2007. Her husband, former Bolingbrook cop Drew Peterson, has been named a suspect in his fourth wife’s disappearance, but hasn’t been charged. Drew Peterson is charged with drowning third wife Kathleen Savio in 2004. He is scheduled to stand trial next month.

    A tip led State Police to search the area. Harn said the information came from “a representative” of someone in jail — but would not elaborate, other than to say: “I think they have a really good tip.”

    Harn said he excavated two small sites selected by cadaver-sniffing dogs.

    Harn, whose work in 2005 led to the arrest of serial killer Larry Bright, said he suggested investigators use ground-penetrating radar or a magnetometer that locates underground metals if they want to continue searching the rural site for Stacy Peterson’s remains.

    “I suspect I’ll probably be going back out there,” Harn added.

    A State Police spokesman wouldn’t confirm that investigators plan to return to the site, but hinted more work might done there soon.

    “I certainly wouldn’t close the door to this week,” Master Sgt. Tom Burek said.

    In 2005, Harn helped locate and identify skeletal remains recovered at crime scenes in central Illinois. His assistance led to the arrest of Bright, now serving life in prison after pleading guilty to eight slayings in the Peoria area.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/2365010,stacy-peterson-dig-fruitless-060710.article

  48. facsmiley :

    rescueapet :
    Good heavens!!!
    foxchicago
    the search for Stacy Peterson turned up Opossum Boneshttp://bit.ly/9cZXcP #StacyPeterson #DrewPeterson3 minutes ago via web

    Possum RIB bones, I dare say!

    This is getting bizarre …….

    The anthropologist says only found Opossum bones were found, but advised investigators to return to the area near Peoria with a device that gets images of what’s underground.

    Is that something no one would have thought of before sending out troops of investigators and experts and do cadaver dogs generally hit on small animal bones ?????

    What’s going on here ???

  49. Oh and the Opossum bones are 45 to 50 years old, so the ground hasn’t been disturbed for that long, yet a device is needed to see what’s underground that was buried three years ago –

    HUH ???

  50. “I suspect I’ll probably be going back out there,” Harn added.

    Huh, for some reason I thought they were all done with the anthropologist. Well, OK.

  51. back on docket
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 3 Status-Comp
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL 2 Status-Comp
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL 1 Status-Comp

  52. facsmiley :
    Here is a coincidence. I’m still not saying there is any proven connection between Lashmett and Drew Peterson however it’s interesting to note that:
    Lashmett’s attorney is Gary V. Johnson, who was on Peterson’s very first defense team with Morelli:

    “When, following Stacy’s disappearance, Peterson first fell under suspicion for murdering at least two wives, he hired Fred Morelli and Gary Johnson, who accompanied him to a November 2007 grand jury appearance.”

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/drew_peterson/20100429-peterson-new-attorneys

    Facs do you know where Gary Johnson’s law office is out of? What town? I am trying to remember. I find it odd that this guy is all the way in Peoria, and he is here in Bolingbrook and they end up with the same atty. Just curious as to where this atty is from.

  53. Cool. A magnetometer. It’s not a metal detector, it can reveal features underground by variations in density. It saves having to dig everything everywhere up. They only have to dig then where there’s something to find..you’ve seen Time Team?

  54. Gary V. Johnson
    Mr. Johnson represents clients in criminal cases throughout Illinois in state and federal court. He has successfully represented clients in some of Illinois ‘ highest profile and most complex cases. He has been certified by the Illinois Supreme Court to handle death penalty litigation. Mr. Johnson has been a frequent speaker for professional associations and at seminars, including the Kane County Bar Association, Cook County Public Defender, People’s Law School and local schools and organizations. Mr. Johnson served as the elected Kane County State ‘s Attorney from December 1988 to December 1992, before returning to private practice, and has occasionally been appointed as a special prosecutor.

    This is from the link to his name in the post up above.

  55. Will County Sheriff Paul Kaupas joined John & Amy to talk about this weekend’s search for evidence in the Stacy Peterson case. Joel Brodsky is representing Drew Peterson and believes that this weekend’s search was nothing but a PR stunt.

    I haven’t listened to this because I am media-blitzed out, but if anyone is still game for this, here’s the link:

    http://townhall.com/TalkRadio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=25

  56. lol PR stunt there isn’t anything Brodsky hasn’t done that wasn’t a PR stunt. I can’t help but ROFL every time he opens his mouth.

  57. Is this bit new?

    …The club, where about 15 members gather each week to shoot clay pigeons, sits on about 10 acres along Kickapoo Creek, accessible via a narrow gravel road that is blocked by an entrance gate. All of the garbage bins at the club are blue barrels, Landmark said.

    The only way to reach the site where investigators were digging is via the club’s remote drive, Landmark said. The club gave police a roster of its members, he said.

    Longtime member Bill Russell said he’s studied a photo of Drew Peterson and doesn’t believe he hung around the club, even as a guest.

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/search-for-stacy-yields-possum-bones-but-no-human-remains.html

  58. Hmm isn’t that something though blue barrels! What a way to fit right in without being noticed.

  59. I hope ISP is showing pictures of his friends, and associates also not just Drew. I would think they are being they got a list of the members from what it is saying above.

  60. The informer-?accomplice lives nearby in Peoria. Maybe the final destination was his accomplice’s recommendation, and so no direct links to Drew.

  61. bucketoftea :
    The informer-?accomplice lives nearby in Peoria. Maybe the final destination was his accomplice’s recommendation, and so no direct links to Drew.

    That makes perfect sense – no direct connection to Drew.

    BTW Drews “head clearing” trip was between November 4 and November 7, 2007.

    November 7, 2007 he appeared before the Grand Jury.

    Does anybody know when the letter from Peoria was sent/received ??

  62. I thought there was a recent report that mentioned the letter was received two weeks after Stacy’s disappearance. Don’t remember the source, though.

  63. I forgot that acandyrose was a great source. Didn’t that letter say that Stacy looked pregnant? That was so lame.

    BTW, the eyewitness account who said he/she saw the police cars and potential cororner van speed off the property Saturday was probably correct. They did find something they didn’t want people to know about. Turns out it was possum bones, though. :-)

  64. WGN 9 Morning News had Joel Brodsky on this morning. Same Joel comments. Robin Baumgaerten just mentioned that the anthropologist, who worked on the site, will be interviewed during the 8:00 a.m. hour of the WGN Morning News.

  65. Alan Harn is doing an interview via phone. He sounds VERY SERIOUS about this present location, He said the location given was a general location, and is going to require extensive searching. He talked about additional equipment and that sometimes a week or two will pass between procedures.

  66. He still supported the fact that the tip was very credible and although he couldn’t say anymore, his voice was quite confident.

  67. harleyjoey :Seriously – What happened to the gag order? I thought he was not allowed to do this?

    Joel is “suppose” to be talking about the Stacy Peterson investigation, but if we timed the topics during his interviews, I think we would find quite a bit of reference to the upcoming trial. Joel’s walking a fine line.

  68. song4sky :

    atlgranny :
    I thought there was a recent report that mentioned the letter was received two weeks after Stacy’s disappearance. Don’t remember the source, though.

    The letter claims she was seen 11/12.
    http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_sideshows1.htm

    Now we know that he had a contact OTG (on the ground, ha ha) in Peoria to post said envelope after he was gone, so even if he could be traced to Peoria if she was found, he would cite the letter alleging her to still be alive several days after he was back in BB. The supermarket is even on the right side of Peoria to be near Echo Valley.

  69. harleyjoey :

    Seriously – What happened to the gag order? I thought he was not allowed to do this?

    What happened? Guess it’s not the judge running the case, it’s the defense. At least that’s what it looks like. The defense is intent on downplaying this “false and non-credible tip.”

    What I don’t think is appropriate, though, is how Brodsky says it’s just like all of the other tips that led to no where, including a body discovered along I-55 and the bones found along the Des Plaines River. Those were not tips given by anyone that insinuated they were remains of Stacy and could be found in a certain location. So, once again, if he’s trying to play to people who aren’t familiar with these instances of remains being accidentally discovered, then he may be succeeding at that. Of course, that’s assuming that this latest investigation for specific remains of Stacy doesn’t turn out to be successful.

  70. Here’s how it was reported about the gag order (excerpt)

    Ill. judge limits pre-trial publicity in Drew Peterson case

    By The Associated Press
    06.06.09

    JOLIET, Ill. — A judge on June 3 sought to control publicity of the Drew Peterson murder case, after prosecutors complained the former suburban Chicago police officer and his lawyers have turned the case into a media circus.

    Will County Judge Stephen White ordered Peterson’s lawyers to give him a list of family, friends and attorneys that Peterson calls from the Will County Adult Detention Facility. If Peterson wants to call somebody who is not on the list, he has to get permission, White said.

    White also ordered that all attorneys in the case must notify him and the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of any interviews and send copies of press releases.

    “If you are going to do an interview, I would like to be informed (beforehand) as to the time and place,” White said.

    http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=21670

    Don’t know how it works, but this is what was reported to be what Judge White ordered.

  71. Well, he is clearly talking about the upcoming trial in these media reports. I don’t see him walking a fine line. More that he is using the latest news about Stacy to disobey the order. I sincerely hope that Judge White is just giving him the proverbial rope.

    I don’t believe that he has informed the judge about any of this latest media blitz.

  72. I think it’s FABULOUS that he’s traipsing his sorry tail over to every studio who will take him! He was whining last week that Jude White hadn’t given his team enough time to prepare for the Savio trial and that only giving them six weeks would allow them to appeal in the “unlikely event of a conviction.”

    He’s shot that to hell now that he’s found all this spare time to go on the media circuit!

    Have at it, Joel. You’ve just sunk your chances for appeal due to a lack of time to prepare.

  73. Maybe the point of that order isn’t so much to prevent him doing and saying these stupid things beyond persuasion to be more circumspect, but to ensure that it’s all monitored by ARDC as well. If not the intent, it’s useful documentation none the less.

    btw I keep hearing “peoria” over and over in my head to the tune of The Kinks “Victoria”

  74. Here we go again. Yet, another version.

    June 8, 2010

    BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist
    The Peterson case . . .

    Listen up! Sneed hears the recent search for Stacy Peterson’s body was NOT prompted by a jailhouse source who came into contact with her husband, Drew Peterson, while incarcerated in the Will County jail.

    “That’s B.S.,” said a top law enforcement source.

    “It was not someone who was ever incarcerated with Peterson, who has been kept in isolation since his arrest last year [after he was charged in the murder of his previous wife, Kathleen Savio].”

    “The source sought us out and we are now reassessing the validity of the source,” the source said.

    • Backshot: The search, conducted with cadaver dogs and shovels over an area smaller than half a basketball court on a private farm near Peoria, was called off Saturday after a day of unproductive digging.

    • Fore shot: “As soon as we establish the info is credible, we would start searching again using costly thermal imaging or ground penetrating radar,” the source added.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/2366134,CST-NWS-SNEED08.article

  75. Excellent point about the earlier remains not having anything to do with a tip being given, Rescue.

    I keep waiting for some…any…interviewer to mention that to him when Brodsky starts reading from his script.

    The tips that I can think of that have not panned out have all had to do with sightings of Stacy; in Thailand, in Kentucky, in Peoria and none of them turned out to have any substance to them.

  76. Posted: Tuesday, 08 June 2010 7:50AM

    Anthropologist: Cops convinced they’re close to finding Stacy Peterson body

    (WBBM) — The original report said the weekend search for Stacy Peterson’s body was prompted by a jailhouse source. But Chicago Sun- Times Columnist Michael Sneed quotes a top official in law enforcement as saying that’s not true: The official reportedly says the source sought out investigators and the validity of the tip is being reassessed.

    Meanwhile, the anthropologist working with state police tells WBBM’s Steve Miller authorities are “very convinced’ the remains are near the places they’ve already looked.

    The search for Peterson’s body is expected to resume in the next few days.

    It’s not hard for anthropologist Alan Harn to tell if an area of ground might have been disturbed: That is, if someone has been buried there.

    He knows what to look for, as he checks the first several inches of soil.

    Saturday’s search of two areas on land near Peoria turned up nothing at one area, and possum bones at the other.

    “It turned out to be a possum. And there were elements of two different possums down in there.”

    Harn says despite not finding human remains, he believes authorities are still convinced Stacy Peterson’s body is buried on that property near Peoria.

    “I think they’re very convinced. I think they’re very convinced that she is somewhere on that property. And I think they’re very convinced that it’s not very far from where we were.”

    Harn has been an anthropologist at Dickson Mounds Museum in Lewiston for 49 years – and has helped solve anthropological puzzles – and crimes – along the way, including the Larry Bright serial murders in the Peoria area.

    Former police officer Drew Peterson, 56, is a suspect in the disappearance of Stacy Peterson, his fourth wife. She was 23 when she disappeared. He’s in custody at the Will County Jail awaiting trial for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio. He’s denied any wrongdoing.

    A spokesman for the Will County state’s attorney’s office says a search for Stacy Peterson’s remains won’t delay Peterson’s upcoming trial for the murder of Saviol.

    Spokesman Chuck Pelkie said Monday prosecutors plan to move forward with the scheduled July 8 date.

    Stacy Peterson disappeared in 2007. Drew Peterson has speculated she ran away with another man and denies any wrongdoing.

    http://www.wbbm780.com/Anthropologist–Cops-convinced-they-re-close-to-fi/7417071

  77. I am puzzled by Brodsky. Wouldn’t this whole thing just fizzle out and wither away if the stories coming out now about this aren’t worthy of anything? It seems to me, the defense could just let this go away, then use it to their benefit during the trial. If that’s not possible, then the jury isn’t going to hear this during trial anyway, so why go on news show after news show and deny, deny something which is false, rumor and innuendo?

    Or, in the alternative, instead of going on these news shows and focusing on this current story, why not focus on how ready they are, how little evidence there is and how they are going to prove to the jury that they must acquit? Why is he spending all of his hot air talking about a non-existent problem?????

  78. OMG!!!!!!!

    I just watched the WGN video of Brodsky giving an interview. He was asked if he knows of any connection between the Peoria property being searched and Drew. He answers that he knows of no connection, except for a detailed letter that was sent saying that Stacy was spotted in Peoria with a man.

    Argh. He KNOWS that information was investigated and cleared, yet, the way he phrased it would lead a person not all that familiar with the case to believe that she was reportedly seen with ANOTHER man in Peoria.

    I understand the defense has to do their work and represent a client to the best of their ability, but this man is twisting and fabricating the truth, and it’s blatant and hideous.

  79. No kidding, rescue. You would think that if the lead is false and ‘possum bones are the only thing buried in those woods, then the whole story will soon drop off into obscurity and the name of Stacy Peterson will leave the airwaves.

    Instead, it’s Joel once more doing the media circuit and making sure that Stacy’s name is all over the news. He’s doing exactly what he’s accusing the State of trying to do. It doesn’t make any sense.

  80. rescueapet :

    OMG!!!!!!!

    He was asked if he knows of any connection between the Peoria property being searched and Drew. He answers that he knows of no connection, except for a detailed letter that was sent saying that Stacy was spotted in Peoria with a man.

    Now THAT was one tip which turned out to be completely unsubstantiated. Did Joel forget that part?

  81. Here’s one story on that Peoria letter:

    Brodsky declined to release the letter itself. “We don’t want anything to impede the investigation” he told The Associated Press.

    Pamela Bosco, a close friend of Stacy Peterson’s family, scoffed at the idea.

    “We got a letter saying she was seen in Florida,” Bosco said. “She’s traveling an awful lot, isn’t she?”

    Bosco said the family has received “tons of letters,” signed and unsigned, from psychics and others claiming to know Stacy Peterson’s whereabouts.

    “It doesn’t mean anything,” Bosco said. “It’s up to police what they do with these tips.”

    Both Peoria city police and Peoria County sheriff’s officials said no reports had been filed regarding Stacy Peterson. They knew nothing of the alleged local sighting apart from receiving several telephone calls from Chicago-area reporters.

    http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/bolingbrook/news/x224443506

  82. Facs @ #102 – yeah, but if you watch him weasel through his explanation, he conveniently leaves off the second part of the sighting/lead as being false. When it comes to false, go-nowhere leads, the defense has the leading edge so far. Again, no tipster called in to say there was a woman’s body laying near a blue container along I-55/railroad tracks, and there was no tipster who absolutely called LE and said we have found bone fragments along the Des Plaines River that are Stacy Peterson’s.

    Boy, this defense is desperate. If anything Brodsky says or has said is meant to shake things up and show that Peterson isn’t anywhere near being in trouble defense-wise, he’s doing a piss-poor job of it.

  83. As for Joel stating that the ISP doesn’t devote any resources to following up on leads to finding Stacy alive:

    The Illinois State Police Department has requested surveillance video from a Peoria Kroger store in connection with the Stacy Peterson investigation.”

    A Kroger spokesman told us surveillance video from the Madison Park Kroger on Harmon Highway has been turned over to state police.

  84. The conspiracy theories just get to me from both sides. Why would the police do a fake thing like this and have their dogs have a false hit as a way to make their case against Drew better?? It makes no sense. I also don’t think Brodsky planted it either.

    I just think someone who was arrested tried to get some temporary special treatment or his/her 15 minutes of fame by giving a false lead. I still hope it is a real lead but the police were looking in the wrong spot.

    The police are doing what they are supposed to to – checking out all leads. We have learned by the Caylee Anthony case that when police don’t look at a lead – they can end up missing finding remains much earlier with much more forensic evidence to use against the killer.

    I pray Stacy is found soon – as well as all of the other missing people. My thoughts are with their families and it is tragic to keep getting their hopes up like this only to be let down yet again. People who provide false leads on purpose should be forced to do something as punishment – not sure what but it is cruel to the families.

  85. Just this and then I’m done with the FALSE TIP Joel Brodsky likes to mention. This is (at least a part of) the letter that was sent to Drew long ago:

    “Dear Drew Peterson: Hello. I am writing to you and I am taking a wild chance communicating with you, but I do not care. I just want you to know that I believe I saw your wife, Stacy. I saw her at a local grocery store in Peoria. I ran into her on Monday night, November 12, 2007. She is alive!!!”

    “She was wearing a black coat, black pants and wearing white athletic shoes. I did not speak to her. I do not want to be identified. I saw her, though. She did not even have a grocery cart. She just stood in the aisle and stared at me with those big, beautiful brown eyes. Drew, is there any chance that she could be pregnant? She has a little pudge. Maybe that is why she is dressed in black.”

    “I am very upset with Dr. Michael Baden. I hope that your lawyers will be able to get rid of him. I do not believe in anything he says. He needs to retire. He got paid pretty well for that. I am not fooled.”

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/27/ng.01.html

  86. thinkaboutit2 :

    The conspiracy theories just get to me from both sides. Why would the police do a fake thing like this and have their dogs have a false hit as a way to make their case against Drew better?? It makes no sense. I also don’t think Brodsky planted it either…

    I’m glad someone at WGN brought up the expense of such an undertaking and asked Joel why the State would incur that kind of financial burden just to perpetrate some kind of public charade. But I couldn’t believe it when Joel said that it wouldn’t cost that much and that the State has already spent a lot of money investigating this case. For heaven’s sake, forget the expense and think about the intentional misuse of people’s time and effort, the use of the land, the deliberate fraud this would be perpetrating on everyone involved in the undertaking on a day when tornadoes were moving across the state. Ridiculous to even imagine such a thing to be true.

    Now, if you want to talk about soliciting an author to write a book about your client, pretending to be objective and yet putting a positive spin on him…I think there are people perfectly capable of that.

  87. Hearing him laugh and chuckle throughout that thing just made my blood curdle. There is NOTHING FUNNY about Stacy being missing. There is NOTHING FUNNY about her family having to sit back and wonder if this is the real tip that will lead them to her remains. There is NOTHING FUNNY about how much money has been spent by LE doing their job to bring closure in this and other missing person cases.

  88. IMO–I think there is something to this Peora thing….Joel is going for the white noise approach, that makes me think they are close.

  89. charmed4sr :IMO–I think there is something to this Peora thing….Joel is going for the white noise approach, that makes me think they are close.

    I do too. As I said yesterday, I’m going to try to stay optimistic that this will lead to something.

    I’m also interested to see what the police said about the search they did in the canal, in comparison to this one. I don’t remember if that was from or tip or just phone pings. Gonna go look around!

  90. harleyjoey :“Joel Brodsky, Drew Peterson’s attorney, disputed reports that his client was near the canal. Brodsky said cell phone records are unreliable”
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317507,00.html
    Oh that’s right – It was those pesky phone records and not a tip.

    Not to mention his own client stated on the Dr. Phil show that he did indeed drive around by the Canal looking for Stacy.

  91. thinkaboutit2 :

    harleyjoey :“Joel Brodsky, Drew Peterson’s attorney, disputed reports that his client was near the canal. Brodsky said cell phone records are unreliable”
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317507,00.html
    Oh that’s right – It was those pesky phone records and not a tip.

    Not to mention his own client stated on the Dr. Phil show that he did indeed drive around by the Canal looking for Stacy.

    Glad you both pointed that out.

    I, for one, think there’s something to Brodsky denying any connection Peterson has to this Peoria property, yet, happens to bring up a connection to it on WGN that turned out to be a dead-end lead.

    It may very well be there is no connection, or it may turn out to be Stacy’s remains are there, but I know what I heard, and Brodsky mentioning the early Peoria sighting of “Stacy” with another man is laying the groundwork for something. JMHO.

  92. Interesting that the anonymous person who saw “pudgy” Stacy, also made eye contact with an olive-skinned, dark haired man who was pacing “real bad” outside of the store. They felt that this person was connected to the Stacy-look-alike in the dairy section — this person who “looked like his nationality was from India”.

    I guess you couldn’t make up a description that looked less like Drew Peterson.

    And this bit: “…all she did was stare at me. She wanted me to see her.” and yet…the letter writer chose not to call police. Huh?

    But really, the best line has got to be, ” I doubt that they will have a surveillance tape of her.”

    Gah, it’s looney-tunes.

  93. Rescue, I totally agree about Brodsky trying to set up a connection with the letter. He’ll probably say the guy she was with is the one who probably killed Stacy, should her body happen to be found in the Peoria area. Problem is, according to the letter, the man was outside of the store, while Stacy was inside at the dairy section. The fruitcake who wrote the letter just “knew” that the man was connected to Stacy, even thought they weren’t even in the store together. For my part, I wouldn’t put it past Drew to have written it and mailed it to Brodsky, or now, that there may be an accomplice involved, the letter could have been part of “the plan” as well. Brodsky just keeps digging himself heeper and deeper everytime he gets in front of a camera, but it’s all going to catch up with him in court. He’s a blabbering idiot.

  94. facsmiley :
    But really, the best line has got to be, ” I doubt that they will have a surveillance tape of her.”
    Gah, it’s looney-tunes.

    That’s gold!

  95. rescue said “It may very well be there is no connection, or it may turn out to be Stacy’s remains are there, but I know what I heard, and Brodsky mentioning the early Peoria sighting of “Stacy” with another man is laying the groundwork for something. JMHO.”

    My strong hunch is that the letter was sent as a way to tie Stacy with another man so that if her body was found on that hunting site 14 miles away, Drew’s Dream Team could say, “SEE! She was with another man in Peoria and HE killed her.”

    JMHO, of course!

  96. song4sky :

    facsmiley :
    But really, the best line has got to be, ” I doubt that they will have a surveillance tape of her.”
    Gah, it’s looney-tunes.

    That’s gold!

    See, you just never know when the supermarket has a camera on the fruitcakes in the store, heh? Smile. :-)

  97. We were forwarded an email from Joe Hosey in which he directly asked Sgt. Burek if there was a search going on today, and his answer was short and sweet. “No.”

    If anyone reading here is in the Peoria area and can verify if activity is going on or not, we’d like to hear. If you’re not registered with WordPress, it’s easy and fast. Sign on and let us know. :-)

  98. It was rainy out south again. I’d think they would wait for things to dry up some and are probably leaning on the source to get more information out of him/her and to figure out if it was just another false lead before digging up any more on this property.

  99. That letter is hilarious….the font, the God bless you, the pacing Indian all in black, the go at Dr Baden.

    Subtlety is alien to JB. Too bad. Wagging the letter at us now really does make it look totally rigged, too.

  100. Looks like Joel renewed his contract with Selig – more stuff up at PRNewsChannel including Joel on Issues with Jane Valez Mitchell…

  101. In that show they seem to say things like “How many accomplices are there?” and one of the “experts” said that Tom Morphey already said he was an accomplice and now someone else is saying they are the accomplice. The only thing that Tom Morphey admitted to was helping Drew remove the container/barrel from the house to the car. That means someone else could have helped bury it. Why don’t they think that is possible?

  102. TAI – We had a discussion regarding this yesterday, both the PR release and the show. PR release is #40, and I made a comment about how stupid the show was at #58. You know us, we’re always on top of this stuff.
    :-)

  103. In reference to that letter – Yes a goof ball.

    However, it does make me giggle. In a way it reminds me of my DH (bless his heart). He is always saying (especially about celebrities) “Oh there’s “so and so”! In reality it is not who he thinks it is – they just look alike! I’m quite sure there are alot of people out there who think someone is not who they really are!

  104. Go ahead and delete my stuff then – I was enjoying a couple of days up in Michigan away from this stuff after being on the rollercoaster regarding the tip. :)

  105. Re Valez Mitchell – I was baffled at how the defense atty guest claimed reports of a search for remains in a barrel conflicted with earlier reports that she was contained in a barrel. Made no sense to me at all.

  106. 08CF000098 – In Re: ROBINSON MICHAEL “CASE CLOSED”
    DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY
    Circuit Judge Circuit Judge AMBT Amy M. Bertani-Tomczak

    ROACH STEVEN R 8 20 10 930 404 ROBINSON MICHAEL 08CF000098 AMBT
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 1,2,3
    Status-Comp

    ~~~~~
    Status-Comp = COMPLIANCE ?

    This Case is ‘Closed’ but what are the terms of compliance for this Status check?

  107. This Case is ‘Closed’ but what are the terms of compliance for this Status check?

    Maybe he attended seminars on how to act like a human being, and not one of those simulated attackers in the current video games. Or, they put him in a room with a man, and let him punch his lights out for a while, rather than allowing Robinson to beat and attack women, like the coward that he is.

  108. I would think it means compliance. Many times people have to pay a fine, attend some kind of classes, or do so many hours of community service if the prosecution and defense agree to them. They may have status hearings to make sure the person is on track to complete those things (kind of like what Lindsay Lohan’s judge has done). I am not 100% certain though.

  109. Will County Circuit Court Schedule

    http://willcountycircuitcourt.com/

    09L 000326 In Re: Estate of Kathleen Savio, Deceased wrongful death suit

    BRODSKY JOEL ALAN 6 10 10 900 WCCA PETERSON DREW 09L 000326 CIVJ
    PETERSON DREW 6 10 10 WCCA 900 09L 000326 Case
    SAVIO HENRY J 6 10 10 WCCA 900 09L 000326 Case
    VARSEK LAWRENCE E. 6 10 10 900 WCCA SAVIO HENRY J 09L 000326 CIVJ
    GLINK MARTIN NOT YET LISTED ON COURT SCHEDULE

    09CF001048 – People of the State of IL vs. Drew Peterson, Defendant MURDER/INTENT

    MECZYK RALPH EUGENE 6 18 10 930 402 PETERSON DREW W 09CF001048 SDW
    PETERSON DREW W 6 18 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 1 Pre-trial
    PETERSON DREW W 6 18 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 2 Pre-trial
    JURY SELECTION BEGINS JULY 8, 2010 PER JUDGE WHITE 06/02/2010
    BRODSKY JOEL ALAN NOT LISTED ON COURT SCHEDULE
    ODEH REEM NOT LISTED ON COURT SCHEDULE

    MECZYK RALPH EUGENE 7 8 10 930 402 PETERSON DREW W 09CF001048 SDW
    PETERSON DREW W 7 8 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 1 Jury Trial
    PETERSON DREW W 7 8 10 402 930 09CF001048 0 MURDER/INTENT TO 2 Jury Trial
    JURY SELECTION BEGINS JULY 8, 2010 PER JUDGE WHITE 06/02/2010
    BRODSKY JOEL ALAN NOT LISTED ON COURT SCHEDULE
    ODEH REEM NOT LISTED ON COURT SCHEDULE

  110. judgin :08CF000098 – In Re: ROBINSON MICHAEL “CASE CLOSED”DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL BATTERY/CAUSE BODILYCircuit Judge Circuit Judge AMBT Amy M. Bertani-Tomczak
    ROACH STEVEN R 8 20 10 930 404 ROBINSON MICHAEL 08CF000098 AMBTROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 1,2,3Status-Comp
    ~~~~~Status-Comp = COMPLIANCE ?
    This Case is ‘Closed’ but what are the terms of compliance for this Status check?

    I hate to suggest this, but many times the case becomes closed because the woman refuses to press charges. It happens every day.

  111. Interesting ..

    https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=14004&agency=196&id=2008CF000098&searchType=case

    Offender Name: MICHAEL ROBINSON
    Case ID: 2008CF000098
    Date of Birth:
    Age:
    Case Status: Closed
    Case Agency: Will Circuit Clerk
    Race:
    Gender:
    Upcoming Court Event(s): 04/10/2012 09:30 AM (CDT)
    Other Hearing
    You cannot register for notification on this case. For more information regarding this case, please call the toll-free VINE service number listed above.

    ROBINSON MICHAEL 1 27 10 900 04F 000340 Motions
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 3 1 10 111 900 09SC008604 Alias Summons
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 5 28 10 WCCA 930 08CH003810 Status

    08CF000098 – In Re: ROBINSON MICHAEL “CASE CLOSED”
    DOMESTIC BTRY/PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION/PHYSICAL BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY
    Circuit Judge Circuit Judge AMBT Amy M. Bertani-Tomczak

    ROACH STEVEN R 8 20 10 930 404 ROBINSON MICHAEL 08CF000098 AMBT
    ROBINSON MICHAEL 8 20 10 404 930 08CF000098 0 BATTERY/CAUSE BODILY 1,2,3
    Status-Comp

  112. @ #144 Quote – IMO, Unless we are able to read the documents or be in court to hear the proceedings, its only a guess as to why all the upcoming court dates and why the 08CF000098 – In Re: ROBINSON MICHAEL “CASE CLOSED is back on the court schedule.

  113. What is funny about the letter is he describes this man as looking like he is from India. Which then in return there is a letter saying she was spotted in Thailand which could be mistaken for kind of Indian looking even though asian, still they practice and been influenced by india culture of buddism.

    So see there is a connection here one way or the other everything links up and was put in place, so they thought anyway.

  114. All the status messages we seen every month were M.R. returning to court every month to show that he was doing some part of the agreement, paying fines etc. Once those are completed, the case will be closed. Now as for him returning it said something up there about 8/2012 that is probably because he was places on probation and he can’t get in any trouble in this time frame or he will get the sentence they wanted to give him to begin with.

  115. questions4you :What is funny about the letter is he describes this man as looking like he is from India. Which then in return there is a letter saying she was spotted in Thailand which could be mistaken for kind of Indian looking even though asian, still they practice and been influenced by india culture of buddism.
    So see there is a connection here one way or the other everything links up and was put in place, so they thought anyway.

    The other strange thing about the letter was the font. Was this a typed letter or a handwritten one?

  116. June 8, 2010 at 12:42 pm | #117
    Quote

    thinkaboutit2 :

    harleyjoey :“Joel Brodsky, Drew Peterson’s attorney, disputed reports that his client was near the canal. Brodsky said cell phone records are unreliable”

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317507,00.html

    Oh that’s right – It was those pesky phone records and not a tip.

    Not to mention his own client stated on the Dr. Phil show that he did indeed drive around by the Canal looking for Stacy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh yeah, I forgot about that one …….

    The client supposedly pays his lawyer to tell us what he wants us to hear, then gets on t.v. and publicly contradicts him – LOL !

  117. thinkaboutit2 :

    questions4you :What is funny about the letter is he describes this man as looking like he is from India. Which then in return there is a letter saying she was spotted in Thailand which could be mistaken for kind of Indian looking even though asian, still they practice and been influenced by india culture of buddism.
    So see there is a connection here one way or the other everything links up and was put in place, so they thought anyway.

    The other strange thing about the letter was the font. Was this a typed letter or a handwritten one?

    It was typed. It was hard to tell from the photo but it’s a ridiculously frilly font.

  118. It looked typed and that is not a font I have ever seen standard on any application. It may come back as something that will help identify who sent that letter if they do find someone who was out that way. Even if someone deletes the font from their machine – it will be retreivable via computer forensics.

  119. thinkaboutit2 :It looked typed and that is not a font I have ever seen standard on any application. It may come back as something that will help identify who sent that letter if they do find someone who was out that way. Even if someone deletes the font from their machine – it will be retreivable via computer forensics.

    Hey Think. The font is just the plain old French Script font I believe. I have it in several applications, including MS Word, and would think it would be more common than it’s commonly used, if that makes sense.

  120. The font is called “French Script” and it is not uncommon. Anyone with Word would have it. AFAIK it’s standard with Microsoft Office.

    It’s common, just too ugly for most to use.

  121. cfs7360 :

    thinkaboutit2 :It looked typed and that is not a font I have ever seen standard on any application. It may come back as something that will help identify who sent that letter if they do find someone who was out that way. Even if someone deletes the font from their machine – it will be retreivable via computer forensics.

    Hey Think. The font is just the plain old French Script font I believe. I have it in several applications, including MS Word, and would think it would be more common than it’s commonly used, if that makes sense.

    I agree. MSWord calls it French Script MT

  122. Wasn’t there another “anonymous” letter addressed to Drew in which a female t.v. presenter/journalist (?) was being criticized in the same vein Dr Baden was being criticized in the supposed letter from Peoria (!!)

    Why does everyone writing to Drew have the same style of writing – LOL !

  123. Hmmm – Guess I haven’t picked fancy fonts in a long time. I was thinking it was a special one but indeed it is standard in Word 2003 and Word 2007. No super sleuth award for me today!

  124. Here is a link to the letter about the Stacy sighting in KY that JAH is talking about:

    http://www.rrstar.com/news/x1295930102

    Fox news has a evil woman named Kimberly Guilfoyle and she is an ex-prosecutor and she is attacking you and I am sure fox will attack me if I come forward, like the rest of the press.

  125. It is indeed written a lot like the first one with a play-by-play “I did this, I saw that, I yada yada” format.

  126. thinkaboutit2 :It is indeed written a lot like the first one with a play-by-play “I did this, I saw that, I yada yada” format.

    Yeah, almost like a police officer filling out an incident report, hmm?

  127. thinkaboutit2 :Here is a link to the letter about the Stacy sighting in KY that JAH is talking about:
    http://www.rrstar.com/news/x1295930102

    Fox news has a evil woman named Kimberly Guilfoyle and she is an ex-prosecutor and she is attacking you and I am sure fox will attack me if I come forward, like the rest of the press.

    Its just another letter written by a murderer cop trying to disguise the writer as a woman. There are cop reportwriting-glossary terms throughout the letter.

  128. Man, Brodsky really made the rounds on TV today, didn’t he? He ran the jail snitch concept into the ground, and I didn’t hear one person say, “wait a minute, the tip didn’t come from someone in jail with Drew” and of course Brodsky wasn’t going to bring it up. Just wish someone had called it to his attention so we could have watched him stutter and stammer around trying to explain that, instead of constantly harping on Drew being in isolation, so it didn’t happen. He’s such a putz.

  129. judgin :

    thinkaboutit2 :Here is a link to the letter about the Stacy sighting in KY that JAH is talking about:http://www.rrstar.com/news/x1295930102

    Fox news has a evil woman named Kimberly Guilfoyle and she is an ex-prosecutor and she is attacking you and I am sure fox will attack me if I come forward, like the rest of the press.

    Its just another letter written by a murderer cop trying to disguise the writer as a woman. There are cop reportwriting-glossary terms throughout the letter.

    Exactly judgin. Several of us are thinking a like today.

  130. The anonymous letter writer knows Fox news has an evil woman called Kimberley Guilfoyle who is an ex prosecutor, but the supposed writer addresses the letter to Joel Peterson = LOL !

  131. justanotherhen :The anonymous letter writer knows Fox news has an evil woman called Kimberley Guilfoyle who is an ex prosecutor, but the supposed writer addresses the letter to Joel Peterson = LOL !

    And we all know Drew is such a jokester.

  132. cfs7360 :Man, Brodsky really made the rounds on TV today, didn’t he? He ran the jail snitch concept into the ground, and I didn’t hear one person say, “wait a minute, the tip didn’t come from someone in jail with Drew” and of course Brodsky wasn’t going to bring it up. Just wish someone had called it to his attention so we could have watched him stutter and stammer around trying to explain that, instead of constantly harping on Drew being in isolation, so it didn’t happen. He’s such a putz.

    And considering he is the one who is saying the whole purpose of this was a stunt by the prosecution to keep Stacy’s name out there just one month before his client’s trial. So if he thinks it is a scam by them why does he keep being the one to be on all of the channels to keep their story alive???

  133. cfs7360 :
    Man, Brodsky really made the rounds on TV today, didn’t he? He ran the jail snitch concept into the ground, and I didn’t hear one person say, “wait a minute, the tip didn’t come from someone in jail with Drew” and of course Brodsky wasn’t going to bring it up. Just wish someone had called it to his attention so we could have watched him stutter and stammer around trying to explain that, instead of constantly harping on Drew being in isolation, so it didn’t happen. He’s such a putz.

    I often wonder what age group Joel is aiming at when he does the rounds of t.v. broadcasts with his bizarre rhetoric or does he just talk for the sake of talking ??

    Oh yeah and Drew is in total isolation, never sees or talks to anyone, let alone any inmates, yet Drew was strip searched for contraband on May 25 – Go Figure Joel !

  134. JB talks so much no one is listening or even believes him anymore … everybody just laughs. He has blown his intelligent facade…

    This is why JB is not listed as lead counsel in the DP murder case on the Will County Circuit Court Schedule… Ralphie MECZYK is the named attorney for the murder trial …

    JB is listed as the attorney in the Savio wrongful death lawsuit handling all the continuances. Maybe JB will get the boot by the time that case goes to trial.

  135. I just loved what clinical psychologist Patricia Saunders had to say about the Peoria letter.

    SAUNDERS: I don`t think it`s a confession, Jane, but I think we`re laughing because it`s inappropriately personal. And there`s — maybe the person that`s identifying with their fantasy of Drew Peterson. There are a couple of statements, though, and the point is well taken, where the person says, That will be up to her, if she decides to go back. That`s a little suspicious. So I think this guy is very deceptively complex. This is no simple man, this Drew Peterson. And it is possible that he faked this letter.

    This is from the same CNN transcript I linked to up above.

  136. I’m sitting here chuckling laughing cause one letter they don’t like Dr. Baden, the other they don’t like the news reporter Kimberly Guilfoyle haha is that so Drew, and Joel or what? I’m surprised they didn’t get a letter talking about Geraldo in there lol

  137. cfs7360 :

    justanotherhen :The anonymous letter writer knows Fox news has an evil woman called Kimberley Guilfoyle who is an ex prosecutor, but the supposed writer addresses the letter to Joel Peterson = LOL !

    And we all know Drew is such a jokester.

    ———————————————

    lol could of been Joel writing a letter to Joel since he seems to like to listen and watch himself so much

  138. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/2365956,4_1_JO08_PETERSON_S1-100608.article

    Body expert: Technology needed for search
    June 8, 2010

    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@stmedianetwork.com

    JOLIET — Two days after a 12-hour excavation outside Peoria came up with nothing but some opossum bones, state police still plan to return to the scene, and the scientist who led the latest search for Stacy Peterson thinks they better bring some high-tech equipment this time.

    “At the end of the day, what I recommended to (state police) is they use a magnotometer or ground-penetrating radar,” said forensic anthropologist Alan Harn, who worked from dawn Saturday until that evening sifting through a few patches of ground on a Peoria property.

    Harn found the bones of two opossums, but not the remains of Stacy Peterson, a Bolingbrook woman missing since October 2007.

    Still, Harn holds that the cops need to keep looking and that the lead that sent the police to Peoria is worth the effort it has taken to check it out.

    “Absolutely,” he said. “We follow every lead.”

    State police suspect Stacy’s husband, Drew Peterson, may have killed her but have yet to charge him in connection with her death or disappearance.

    Despite the lack of action in Stacy’s case, her mysterious absence did pressure state police to arrest Peterson for allegedly murdering his previous wife, Kathleen Savio, in March 2004. Until Stacy vanished, the state police insisted that Savio, who was Peterson’s third wife, was the victim of a freak bathtub drowning.

    Last week, a tipster led the state police to the farm of David Alwan.

    “I can’t tell you all that I know about that, but it was an informant,” said Harn, who works at the Dickson Mounds Museum in Lewiston.

    Once on Alwan’s property, cadaver-detecting dogs alerted police to three spots where a body might have been buried, said the anthropologist. He noted that there were other depressions in the vicinity of the spot identified by the informant, and it is possible that one of them could be the unmarked grave of Stacy Peterson.

    While Harn feels strongly that state police should return to the area with high-tech searching equipment, Master Sgt. Tom Burek, a state police spokesman, said he has heard no news of investigators following the scientist’s advice.

    “Would they use technology? You bet,” said Burek, adding, “Nobody’s told me they’re planning to do so.”

    Burek also said state police have no timetable for going back to search in Peoria, but did not rule out the possibility of another trip.

    Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodsky, mocked the whole central Illinois effort.

    “I hope they don’t get too much mud on their feet,” Brodsky said. “Truly, it’s ridiculous. There’s nothing to this.”

  139. questions4you :I’m sitting here chuckling laughing cause one letter they don’t like Dr. Baden, the other they don’t like the news reporter Kimberly Guilfoyle haha is that so Drew, and Joel or what? I’m surprised they didn’t get a letter talking about Geraldo in there lol

    That would be too obvious! :) IDK – there are wacky people out there who seek out and even marry murderers who are behind bars so it could be someone who was looking for some DP love in the future… As I have said time and time again – in this case anything is possible!

  140. Think, you’re so right about that. We all know of one, in particular, who might want to marry Drew, if it was possible to do so. Those letters could have been the compositions of any number of fruitcakes, including the perp and his sidekick attorney.

  141. HI all I was just sitting here and wondering if Stacys body was in a sealedblue plastic drum how can the dogs hit on a sent if the container is sealed? Man I hope iam barking up the wrong tree.

  142. Rescue – Thanks for the link. I hope they do the retest and that the Spira family gets some answers. It is sad that even with DNA being as advanced as it is that it really depends on quality of the sample.

  143. thinkaboutit2 :Rescue – Thanks for the link. I hope they do the retest and that the Spira family gets some answers. It is sad that even with DNA being as advanced as it is that it really depends on quality of the sample.

    Once they know for sure if it is John Spira, the questions begin… How did he get there? Why? etc.

  144. I just had Cold Case Files on in the background and I heard them talking about digging and showed one of those dogs, and how he is trained to lay down when there is a hit, and yet searches were coming up empty…so naturally that caught my attention! They were digging unsuccessfully for a body on multiple occasions, even concerned about being able to justify more search warrants (it was a cellar under a house). Long story short, they used a “ground penetrating radar” and located the spot. I thought that was some interesting, related insight…and hopefully will have a similar conclusion too!

  145. facsmiley :
    We got an email with some interesting information regarding the area that was being searched. I’m not posting this in order to open up the thread to speculation, but I did find it interesting and agree that Drew may be familiar with that airport and the group since he flies an ultralite. But who knows…:

    There is a small airport just to the east of the search area. The road the farm they are searching is on leads into another road that goes right by the airport. Mt Hawley Auxiliary Airport. They have a chapter of EAA there – Experimental Aircraft Association…
    Here is the Website for the EAA chapter: http://www.eaa563.org/ and here http://www.eaa563.org/Chapter%20Information.htm
    I wonder if any of those officers remember DP visiting them down there.

    Thanks for the information!

    Do you know whether that EAA club is connected to the Frye Ultralight Airport in Dunlap?

  146. However, here is my favorite Brodsky quote:

    BRODSKY: A month ago, a woman took off and — and abandoned her husband and her kids. And didn`t tell anybody where she was until they found her living with another man in New Jersey.

    Exactly. This woman was located within ONE MONTH. Stacy’s been missing for close to 3 YEARS now. Why hasn’t Peterson’s crack team of PI’s located her?

  147. I thought the same thing too Facs. Most people who are ALIVE and disappear with someone, are found though their own activities, or through the activites of the one with whom they disappeared, especially when it’s well known that they are MISSING. I don’t think Joel Brodsky will ever realize how stupid he sounds trying to defend Drew, or learn to keep his mouth shut and just do his job, without being such a fame whore.

  148. ARCHEOLOGIST DIG FOR MISSING MOM

    Alan Harn has been digging in the ground and studying bones for the last 49 years with the Dickinson Mounds Museum. He’s a skilled archeologist who is dedicated to his profession. “I drop what I am doing and offer assistance, we don’t charge,” says Harn. He’s excavated over 1,300 human skeletons over his career, and has never been wrong on determining age, sex and race of a body.

    Over the weekend, Harn was called into action again, this time for a police investigation of missing mom Stacy Peterson. Harn says an informant had information that Stacy’s body may have been buried in a farm land area of Peoria, Illinois. He says the informant talked to someone who then notified the state police. Investigators felt the tip was urgent enough that they jumped on it right away and headed out to the location over the weekend. I spoke with Sgt. Tom Burek over the weekend, and he confirmed they were out there, and they were going to come back out again to search, he just didn’t know when.

    Harn says an area was pinpointed, a little over an acre wide, and cadaver dogs focused in on three specific spots within that area. At nearly 70-years-old, Harn says he took a razor sharp shovel and shaved away at the ground for nearly nine hours on Saturday, June 5, 2010. “Archeology is a very slow process,” Harn says. The Dickinson Mounds Museum is one of the few places across the country that is able to assist investigators in these types of digs, and they do it with great pride. “When I take my archeologist hat off at the end of the day, I put on my farmers hat,” Harn says. He has more energy and dedication than most I’ve talked to over my career, and he is looking forward to entering his 50th year in his profession. Harn suggested to investigators that they should bring in an electrical device that takes impulse readings to determine the size and shape of what is under the soil. It’s more time efficient…

    http://www.michellesigona.com/2010/06/digging-for-stacy-peterson/

  149. For me, it’s impossible to know what to think. But, I can be sure of one thing. If Drew Peterson dragged someone else into his scheme to dispose of his wife, you can rest assured it was only a matter of time before it would be exposed. It means he dealt with dirt, and dirt will come back and hit him in his face.

    Don’t worry, Mr. Brodsky, about anyone getting mud on their feet. They don’t really give a rat’s ass what you hope.

  150. @Rescue #197 – “Don’t worry, Mr. Brodsky, about anyone getting mud on their feet. They don’t really give a rat’s ass what you hope.”

    Love it! Couldn’t have said it any better myself. That was just more stupidity spewing forth on his behalf. He doesn’t appear to think much before he speaks, does he?

  151. @facs #196
    ‘Alan Harn has been digging in the ground and studying bones for the last 49 years with the Dickinson Mounds Museum. He’s a skilled archeologist who is dedicated to his profession. “I drop what I am doing and offer assistance, we don’t charge,” says Harn. He’s excavated over 1,300 human skeletons over his career, and has never been wrong on determining age, sex and race of a body.”

    Harn gave such a sincere interview to WGN yesterday and now reading this second article about him, makes me even more confident in the present search. He’s a man who takes great pride in his work. When you put in as many years as he has, a person would have to have developed a sense of the land and possible remain locations. Nine hours of work and he doesn’t charge? I think he’s an unexpected gift to the search teams. Thank you Alan Harn!

  152. Just hoping investigators stay on it, and get the equipment they need to locate Stacy. If Stacy is on this property, even being off by a couple feet can make a big difference in locating her remains. I feel confident that if the informants story is true, and they get the equipment to see below the surface she will be found. One acre of land is a big area to just dig here, and dig there. It will be alot easier when they get what they need to help locate Stacy if she is there.

  153. Amen for good men like Harn who volunteer their services to help the needs of others!

  154. Isn’t this interesting, do you think?

    Stacy’s been seen in Peoria!! Oh, really???
    It might be worth checking out this ‘Marcy’ person

    November 27, 2007
    BY RICHARD ROEPER Sun-Times Columnist
    Quote:
    Either two people think they saw Stacy Peterson in a Peoria grocery store on Nov. 12 — or the same individual who reportedly sent a letter to Drew Peterson also posted a note about the sighting on a Fox News blog.

    The comment by “Marcy” appears in the feedback section of Greta Van Susteren’s “GretaWire” blog. It was posted on Wednesday, Nov. 14 at 3:15 p.m.

    “Is Stacy’s hair still a blonde color? I swear I saw a young woman down here in the 309 area code. She hauntingly looked like Stacy … all she did was stand there and stare at me. I did not do anything. I looked at her though. I think that she is very much alive!!! Look if I went to the police they would not believe me anyway!!! This happened on Monday night …”

    And when someone uses multiple exclamation points, it just has to be true!!!

    Drew Peterson’s attorney says his client received a letter describing a possible sighting of Stacy Peterson at a Peoria grocery store on Nov. 12 — the same date “Marcy” cites. The two alleged sightings are strikingly similar.

    I doubt authorities are viewing that letter as a big break in the case — but if they’re still looking into this supposed sighting, it might be worth checking out this “Marcy” person and the posting that went up a week before Peterson received that letter.

    In the meantime, I’m certain that over the last few weeks, I’ve seen about 112 middle-aged guys in the Chicago area who bear an uncanny and unfortunate resemblance to Drew Peterson.

  155. Brodsky & Odeh
    Attorneys At Law

    PRESS RELEASE

    URGENT – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Re: Drew Peterson;

    November 22, 2007

    Mr. Drew Peterson received an unsigned letter yesterday which gave a detailed description of a sighting of his missing wife Stacy Peterson. Mr. Peterson opened the letter today, November 22, 2007, and immediately called the Illinois State Police and his attorneys, to notify them of the development.

    The letter carried a postmark from Peoria Illinois dated November 19, 2007. It detailed an encounter the writer had with Stacy on November 12, 2007, at Kroger=s, a grocery store on Harmon Highway, in Peoria, Illinois.

    The letter is detailed and also describes a man who the writer said appeared to be in Stacy=s company. Also, the letter stated that it appeared that Stacy was trying be to be noticed, because she was not shopping but instead was standing in the dairy section looking at the writer, who was in turn observing her. Finally, the anonymous letter questioned if Stacy was pregnant because she appeared to have Aa little pudge@.

    Mr. Peterson welcomes this news, and hopes that it will lead the authorities to locating Stacy.

    Joel A. Brodsky

  156. Yeah, and IF this turns out to be the burial site for his missing wife, Stacy, how convenient that there’s references to her “sighting” in Peoria all over the Internet, and quotes galore pointing out how wonderful it is that she could still be alive. This one is a beaut:

    Drew Peterson Says Letter Is Evidence That Stacy is Still Alive

    FOX NEWS – 22 Nov 2007

    The unsigned letter Drew Peterson reportedly received contained details about Stacy Peterson’s clothing and said she was with a young man, his lawyer said. Brodsky said he hopes the store captured her image on a surveillance camera.

    Look for the olive skinned, dark haired man. He must know something. Yeah, right.

  157. questions4you :
    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/2365956,4_1_JO08_PETERSON_S1-100608.article

    Body expert: Technology needed for search
    June 8, 2010
    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@stmedianetwork.com
    JOLIET — Two days after a 12-hour excavation outside Peoria came up with nothing but some opossum bones, state police still plan to return to the scene, and the scientist who led the latest search for Stacy Peterson thinks they better bring some high-tech equipment this time.
    “At the end of the day, what I recommended to (state police) is they use a magnotometer or ground-penetrating radar,” said forensic anthropologist Alan Harn, who worked from dawn Saturday until that evening sifting through a few patches of ground on a Peoria property.
    Harn found the bones of two opossums, but not the remains of Stacy Peterson, a Bolingbrook woman missing since October 2007.
    Still, Harn holds that the cops need to keep looking and that the lead that sent the police to Peoria is worth the effort it has taken to check it out.
    “Absolutely,” he said. “We follow every lead.”
    State police suspect Stacy’s husband, Drew Peterson, may have killed her but have yet to charge him in connection with her death or disappearance.
    Despite the lack of action in Stacy’s case, her mysterious absence did pressure state police to arrest Peterson for allegedly murdering his previous wife, Kathleen Savio, in March 2004. Until Stacy vanished, the state police insisted that Savio, who was Peterson’s third wife, was the victim of a freak bathtub drowning.
    Last week, a tipster led the state police to the farm of David Alwan.
    “I can’t tell you all that I know about that, but it was an informant,” said Harn, who works at the Dickson Mounds Museum in Lewiston.
    Once on Alwan’s property, cadaver-detecting dogs alerted police to three spots where a body might have been buried, said the anthropologist. He noted that there were other depressions in the vicinity of the spot identified by the informant, and it is possible that one of them could be the unmarked grave of Stacy Peterson.
    While Harn feels strongly that state police should return to the area with high-tech searching equipment, Master Sgt. Tom Burek, a state police spokesman, said he has heard no news of investigators following the scientist’s advice.
    “Would they use technology? You bet,” said Burek, adding, “Nobody’s told me they’re planning to do so.”
    Burek also said state police have no timetable for going back to search in Peoria, but did not rule out the possibility of another trip.
    Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodsky, mocked the whole central Illinois effort.
    “I hope they don’t get too much mud on their feet,” Brodsky said. “Truly, it’s ridiculous. There’s nothing to this.”

    I don’t think LE ever intended on the media attention this search site has received. Had it not been for TMZ, LE may have been able to carry out the search without any media attention. Only curious neighbors would note the unusual activity.

    Now, LE is trying to downplay their interest in the search site and what might be buried there. And Joel Brodsky is making a fool of himself (again) in an effort to cast doubts on the search.

    I’m excited about this search, and until the search of the site has been completed will hold out hope that Stacy will be found there. There’s a lot of little things about this area that make sense as a place DP would bury Stacy.

  158. rescueapet #203 – It is my understanding that all posters can be traced back by their IP address.

    I wonder if ‘Marcy’s’ IP addy can be traced from the comment by “Marcy” in the feedback section of Greta Van Susteren’s “GretaWire” blog posted on Wednesday, Nov. 14 at 3:15 p.m.
    :)

  159. Hi Molly!!! Good to see you again.

    There are some strange connections to Peoria, aren’t there? None of us will know until the area is cleared, one way or the other, but it sure seems as though the idea of Stacy’s sighting in Peoria, of all places, only weeks after her disappearance, sure leaves a lot to the imagination (mine being one of them).

    Actually, when she first disappeared, if you recall, LE thought Peterson may have tried to place suspicion on Scott Rossetto, and even thought Stacy’s remains might be found in a location near his home, in Shorewood. That, based on Stacy’s cell phone being in that area, which allegedly was Drew using her phone to call his.

    If they used that as a theory, what is so far fetched, then, about Drew making sure that attention was brought to Peoria, and sightings of Stacy with a mystery man, in the event her remains were to be found buried in that area at some point?

    It seems as though it sure does have Brodsky’s undivided attention – enough for him to be making the rounds on tv and being quoted in the papers saying it is bunk.

  160. rescueapet :
    Isn’t this interesting, do you think?

    Stacy’s been seen in Peoria!! Oh, really???
    It might be worth checking out this ‘Marcy’ person
    November 27, 2007
    BY RICHARD ROEPER Sun-Times Columnist
    Quote:
    Either two people think they saw Stacy Peterson in a Peoria grocery store on Nov. 12 — or the same individual who reportedly sent a letter to Drew Peterson also posted a note about the sighting on a Fox News blog.
    The comment by “Marcy” appears in the feedback section of Greta Van Susteren’s “GretaWire” blog. It was posted on Wednesday, Nov. 14 at 3:15 p.m.
    “Is Stacy’s hair still a blonde color? I swear I saw a young woman down here in the 309 area code. She hauntingly looked like Stacy … all she did was stand there and stare at me. I did not do anything. I looked at her though. I think that she is very much alive!!! Look if I went to the police they would not believe me anyway!!! This happened on Monday night …”
    And when someone uses multiple exclamation points, it just has to be true!!!
    Drew Peterson’s attorney says his client received a letter describing a possible sighting of Stacy Peterson at a Peoria grocery store on Nov. 12 — the same date “Marcy” cites. The two alleged sightings are strikingly similar.
    I doubt authorities are viewing that letter as a big break in the case — but if they’re still looking into this supposed sighting, it might be worth checking out this “Marcy” person and the posting that went up a week before Peterson received that letter.
    In the meantime, I’m certain that over the last few weeks, I’ve seen about 112 middle-aged guys in the Chicago area who bear an uncanny and unfortunate resemblance to Drew Peterson.

    Oohhhh, so glad you posted this.

    It appears all the so called “Stacy sighting letters” and the blogger on Greta are written by the same person, not only same style of writing, but look at this:

    Peoria letter:

    She is alive!!!

    Kentucky letter:

    Good luck!!!

    Greta poster:

    I think that she is very much alive!!!
    Look if I went to the police they would not believe me anyway!!!

    Look at the three exclamation marks without any spaces after the word, this is the same in all three examples.

    Also would a woman say someone has “a little pudge” when they are talking about early pregnancy, sounds more like something a man would say.

  161. If there was a reward for information leading to Stacy, why in the world would not this anonymous letter person contact anyone but Drew Peterson to possibly collect the award for locating Stacy? That just defies logic, doesn’t it?

    Hey, this area may not be where her remains will be found, but it sure is resurrecting a lot of strange Peoria references.

    Hoping she will be seen on “surveillance” tapes (you mean someone that conveniently looked like her).

    “Evidence” that she is alive (at the time of the sighting, I would guess).

    Another man was with her (the one who never before was in her life, but conveniently appeared with her in Peoria).

    Geesh, you just can’t make this stuff up, can you?

  162. The explanation for the “pudge”, as explained by Drew Peterson, was her recent tummy tuck.

    Steve Carcerano was interviewed by Gerald Rivera for Geraldo Rivera at Large. Carcerano was on the phone with Peterson when he was read the letter to him by Peterson. Peterson said “you’re not going to believe this!” The letter said there was a sighting of Stacy in the dairy aisle of a Kroger. The man she was with looked like an Indian with black straight hair and was pacing back and forth. Stacy appeared to be pregnant. Peterson said that was probably due to her tummy tuck.

    Source of information: acandyrose.com

  163. Stacy appeared to be pregnant. Peterson said that was probably due to her tummy tuck.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh, Stacy appears pregnant and you can see this so called “little pudge” through the black coat she was wearing.

    That must have been a super observant anonymous person for them to consider that a “pregnant” look – LOL !

  164. rescueapet :
    Hi Molly!!! Good to see you again.
    There are some strange connections to Peoria, aren’t there? None of us will know until the area is cleared, one way or the other, but it sure seems as though the idea of Stacy’s sighting in Peoria, of all places, only weeks after her disappearance, sure leaves a lot to the imagination (mine being one of them).
    Actually, when she first disappeared, if you recall, LE thought Peterson may have tried to place suspicion on Scott Rossetto, and even thought Stacy’s remains might be found in a location near his home, in Shorewood. That, based on Stacy’s cell phone being in that area, which allegedly was Drew using her phone to call his.
    If they used that as a theory, what is so far fetched, then, about Drew making sure that attention was brought to Peoria, and sightings of Stacy with a mystery man, in the event her remains were to be found buried in that area at some point?
    It seems as though it sure does have Brodsky’s undivided attention – enough for him to be making the rounds on tv and being quoted in the papers saying it is bunk.

    Hi Rescuapet! It’s good to see you again, it’s nice to be able to post here again! I lost my password, and even though I requested a new password, I kept getting emails from Word Press without a new password attached……just a message from Word Press, with no password included. I think some sort of computer glitch. Yesterday on my second try, a new password was sent, and here I am.

    I remember how DP was intent on trying to frame Scott Rissetto. It was always curious that even though DP claimed that Stacy left with another man, there’s been no man missing from the area. No one has ever reported a husband, son, brother, or any man missing during the same time frame that Stacy disappeared.

    The Peoria site has many interesting details that could tie in if Stacy’s remains are found at the search site. First and foremost, as you mentioned, is the infamous Peoria “sighting” of Stacy in a Krogers, and the letter sent. Then there’s the nearby airport (Frye) for ultralights. DP could have been familiar with that area if he ever used that airport. And when Joel was asked where DP was during his 3-day “head clearing” trip, he said he was visiting an old friend in Madison, WI., which from Bolingbrook, is the opposite direction, Madison being north and Peoria being south.

    As I said, I’m excited as I think we might be close to having Stacy found.

  165. All I can say about the Peoria and Kentucky letters is that I hope the anonymous letter writer licked the back of the stamp before they put it on the letter to Mr Joel Peterson in Bolingbrook as that would be their undoing – LOL !

  166. Don’t you think that Drew had to come up with plan #2 because he would have known that LE were all ready following a lead that he was trying to frame Scott Rosetta? So who would have been his next choice? The remains/evidence would need to be out of the search area, but yet retrievable at a later date if necessary. Stacy being missing has placed him in limbo. The only individuals who would not “appear” to be missing, would be a male who travels a lot. I keep thinking about Pam Boscoe’s comment in regard to Stacy being at all of these locations. I think a story will unfold from this present area they’re searching. (Drew may have headed North (Wisconsin) while Stacy’s remains headed South. (a diversion??)

  167. (Drew may have headed North (Wisconsin) while Stacy’s remains headed South. (a diversion??)

    Did anyone ever prove that Drewfus went North? My suspicion is that when asked where he’d been, he deliberatly choose the opposite direction from where he had actually been in order to throw people off. In other words, if he’d been south in, let’s say Peoria, he’d say he’d been north.

    JMHO, of course.

  168. Source: NANCY GRACE

    Police Seek Blue Barrel and Accomplice in Stacy Peterson Case

    Aired November 27, 2007 – 20:00:00 ET

    Excerpt

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was that letter that was left with Drew Peterson. And then also, we got a tip here at “America`s Most Wanted” to look at another grocery store in Peoria, as well, where somebody believed they saw Stacy. Bottom line is this. The surveillance video from one of those grocery stores is in the hands of cops right now. They`re combing through it. They`re trying to see if that is indeed Stacy. But I`ll tell you, there will be a lot of very surprised investigators if, indeed, that is Stacy Peterson on that surveillance tape.

    Never knew this – that America’s Most Wanted got a grocery store tip too – but not the same one.

  169. rescueapet :
    Source: NANCY GRACE
    Police Seek Blue Barrel and Accomplice in Stacy Peterson Case
    Aired November 27, 2007 – 20:00:00 ET
    Excerpt

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was that letter that was left with Drew Peterson. And then also, we got a tip here at “America`s Most Wanted” to look at another grocery store in Peoria, as well, where somebody believed they saw Stacy. Bottom line is this. The surveillance video from one of those grocery stores is in the hands of cops right now. They`re combing through it. They`re trying to see if that is indeed Stacy. But I`ll tell you, there will be a lot of very surprised investigators if, indeed, that is Stacy Peterson on that surveillance tape.

    Never knew this – that America’s Most Wanted got a grocery store tip too – but not the same one.

    Unfortunately, this was said from an unidentified male so that could be anyone, including Drew.

  170. atlgranny :
    (Drew may have headed North (Wisconsin) while Stacy’s remains headed South. (a diversion??)
    Did anyone ever prove that Drewfus went North? My suspicion is that when asked where he’d been, he deliberatly choose the opposite direction from where he had actually been in order to throw people off. In other words, if he’d been south in, let’s say Peoria, he’d say he’d been north.
    JMHO, of course.

    I don’t think it was ever made public if they proved he went there. However, there is so much we don’t know that LE probably does. Unfortunately, he did have the freedom to go at that time and it’s too bad as perhaps this story may have taken a different turn and Stacey or evidence would have been found sooner.

  171. Lee:

    Unfortunately, this was said from an unidentified male so that could be anyone, including Drew.

    Lee, I think that just means the written transcript didn’t identify who that was speaking from the program. That person was apparently someone from America’s Most Wanted, indicating they took in a tip about Stacy being spotted in Peoria.

  172. rescueapet :
    Lee:

    Unfortunately, this was said from an unidentified male so that could be anyone, including Drew.

    Lee, I think that just means the written transcript didn’t identify who that was speaking from the program. That person was apparently someone from America’s Most Wanted, indicating they took in a tip about Stacy being spotted in Peoria.

    Could be quite true. I have a hard time with some things as we know Drew and his team have really tried to downplay and/or make light of Stacey being missing. :(

  173. You’re not alone there, Lee. It’s disgusting. We could do with a little less of Chuckles Brodsky’s light-hearted approach to mommy murdering.

  174. You know, I think LE doth protest too much. They SAY they are NOT back in Peoria digging, but they very well could be, just trying to keep the media circus at bay.
    How would we ever know, unless the media had lookouts posted at the gate 24/7.

  175. Zbunny – I think the saturated wet ground kind of delayed things. I don’t doubt they’re not done yet over there, but it seems that if Alan Harn is correct about needing the area to be dry in order to use the equipment, then maybe they’ll resume today.

  176. I think they’d like it to dry a bit. That makes sense to me, and all though I’m dying to know what’s going on, I appreciate a low profile is a good idea. Trial and all. We don’t really want them to have any excuse to delay the inevitable any longer.

  177. Here’s hoping for the weather to dry things out! I’m kind of glad they aren’t rushing if the conditions aren’t very good.

    P.S – WOOT WOOT!! Congrats to the Blackhawks! Awesome!

  178. No, CFS, haven’t heard a thing. Then again, haven’t heard of LE issuing any press releases either that this is all over and done with. You know, like they’ve cleared the area and nothing was found, or, in the alternative, that they’re going back over the area at a certain day or time. Guess they’d prefer to have the murder defendant and his attorney be the last to know anything, and, unfortunately, that means us too.

    Hmmm.

  179. Thanks Rescue. I agree with someone else who said that LE probably preferred that this was kept quiet to begin with, just in case it turned out to be the real deal, or worst case, a red herring. Even though they supposedly had coordinates, who knows how they came by them? The supposed “accomplice” could have intentionally steered them to the wrong location, depending on his allegiance to Drew, but I certainly hope that isn’t the case. There are just too many variables here that will keep us guessing until all of the details are revealed. Like everyone else, I’m just trying to be patient until they are.

  180. Michael Lashmett’s lawyer, Gary Johnson, has been contacted and asked twice now if his client is the informant or connected in any way to this case. Both times he has denied any involvement.

    Until we hear anything credible to the contrary, let’s refrain from commenting on the blog about any unrelated criminal history, the man’s personal life, etc. Thanks!

  181. atlgranny :(Drew may have headed North (Wisconsin) while Stacy’s remains headed South. (a diversion??)
    Did anyone ever prove that Drewfus went North? My suspicion is that when asked where he’d been, he deliberatly choose the opposite direction from where he had actually been in order to throw people off. In other words, if he’d been south in, let’s say Peoria, he’d say he’d been north.
    JMHO, of course.

    My thinking was actually not the 3-day head clearing trip, but the ones he took later with the kids. Just my gut feeling, but if movement of remains happened with accomplices, then Drew would want a receipt and witnesses to show he was no where near a possible crime scene. (Remember the day in Chicago when Kathleen died?) Anyway, I recall from the old fsp board, that Drew made a trip to Big Wolf Lodge (name??) in the Wisconsin Dells, over a long weekend, with the kids. Just thinking about patterns he follows.

  182. zbunny :
    You know, I think LE doth protest too much. They SAY they are NOT back in Peoria digging, but they very well could be, just trying to keep the media circus at bay.
    How would we ever know, unless the media had lookouts posted at the gate 24/7.

    There’s been no reports that LE has resumed the search. From what I understand, the equipment needed, ground penetrating sonar, may not be the sort of equipment that’s readily available. LE may be lining up the equipment and the people who operate it, and that might take some time. In the meantime, with LE downplaying the search and nothing happening for the media to report on, I suspect LE is hoping to be able to resume the search without the media presence.

  183. Thanks CFS!

    Police confident Stacy’s body is in Peoria, source says

    June 11, 2010
    By JOE HOSEY jhosey@stmedianetwork.com

    JOLIET — State police still believe the tip that sent them downstate in search of Stacy Peterson is solid, sources say, but have held off on digging for her body for nearly a week now.

    The operation to locate the missing Bolingbrook mother on a farm outside Peoria halted Saturday evening and has yet to resume, said Master Sgt. Tom Burek, a spokesman for the state police.

    Despite the lack of activity, a source close to the investigation said state police are extremely confident that Stacy’s body is buried in that area.

    “They just have to find her,” the source said.

    Stacy vanished in October 2007 and the state police suspect her husband, disgraced former Bolingbrook cop Drew Peterson, may have had a hand in killing her.

    Kathleen Savio
    While Stacy remains missing and no one has been charged with harming her, her disappearance did force state police to take another look at the March 2004 death of Peterson’s previous wife, Kathleen Savio.

    State police had insisted that Savio, who was Peterson’s third wife, was the victim of a freak bathtub accident that ended with her drowning. But after Stacy vanished, state police reversed course and arrested Peterson for allegedly murdering Savio. He is set to stand trial on the charges next month.

    An informant who came forward last week prompted the cops’ trip to Peoria, said Alan Harn, a forensic anthropologist who helped during Saturday’s dig for Stacy. Harn said he knows even more about what’s going on behind the scenes with the investigation but declined to elaborate.

    After coming up empty with the excavation — except for some opossum bones — Harn said he suggested using high-tech electronic equipment to probe the soil for Stacy. Burek has not said whether state police plan to follow Harn’s advice.

    ‘Nothing there’?
    Pam Bosco, the spokeswoman for Stacy Peterson’s family, said the state police have expressed optimism about the Peoria project.

    “They consider it still a good lead,” Bosco said. “They’re planning to go back as soon as they develop or focus their strategy.”

    But one of Peterson’s attorneys, Joseph “Shark” Lopez, said there is another reason the state police have not returned to Peoria.

    “Why don’t they go back? Because there ain’t nothing there,” Lopez said.

    “Kind of like Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vaults,” Lopez said. “A big flop.”

    heraldnewsonline.com

  184. But one of Peterson’s attorneys, Joseph “Shark” Lopez, said there is another reason the state police have not returned to Peoria.

    “Why don’t they go back? Because there ain’t nothing there,” Lopez said.

    “Kind of like Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vaults,” Lopez said. “A big flop.”

    I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but isn’t it better to stay quiet until the “vault” is opened and the “big flop” is confirmed, rather than talking like a 3rd grade child saying “ain’t nothing there?”

    Does Lopez have a crystal ball with which to make predictions? Damn, why isn’t he using it to win the lottery then? On the other hand, why deny something that may later turn out to be true? Why, then, should the public give a rat’s butt what comes out of Lopez’ or Brodsky’s mouths if they later have to back peddle and say Stacy’s remains were put there by someone else?

    What a bunch of morons. Drew can have them for lawyers. He deserves them.

  185. Drew and his lawyers have done nothing but create a circus out of a tragedy. I cannot wait for the day when the egg will be all over their faces.

    Every time there has been a search, the first thing out of their mouths is that Stacy is not there or that they will find nothing. Well, if that’s a fact…where is she?

    I so hope they start searching again soon and that she will be found this time. This circus needs to come to an end.

  186. I cannot imagine what this wait is doing to Stacy’s friends and family. Anyone who’s gone through an excruciating wait for a baby, medical results, death, etc I’m sure can relate. I know they’ve been waiting for so long, but the closer it gets, the more frantic the time seems to become another crisis. My thoughts and prayers are with them, and I hope this can be concluded, once and for all, very very soon.

  187. Despite the lack of activity, a source close to the investigation said state police are extremely confident that Stacy’s body is buried in that area.
    “They just have to find her,” the source said.

    This quote has given me hope.

    By the way, they have probably taken samples of the vehicles for dirt and grime and could potentially match it to this area, correct?

    On an aside, he did use a motorcycle for his three day trip. I believe I once heard from Cassandra on the forum they had for Stacy that Stacy’s motorcycle is missing. Now it’s been a long time ago and I remember most of this case as I’ve followed it immensely the first year Stacy went missing.

  188. At the time Derek Armstrong was interviewing Peterson for his book (Summer of 2008), both Drew’s and Stacy’s motorcycles were at the house on Pheasant Chase Court. Drew said that he was keeping the bike for her in case she returned. I think I recall that the title of the motorcycle is in Stacy’s name and that he can not sell it.

    However, in Drew’s suit against Chase for the HELOC that they denied him, only one bike is mentioned in a motion filed in May of this year:

    18. That there has been no material in Peterson’s assets in that he has substantially same assets now as the time of CHASE’s approval and issuance of his 2005 HELCO, to wit: the unencumbered residence, an SUV, a motorcycle, household furniture, furnishing and miscellaneous personal possessions.

    Of course he may or may not still have the big softail that went up on eBay. Joel claims it has been sold to a private party but…who knows.

  189. If anyone wants to spend the $19 on it, Dr. Dan’s book may or may not mention a visit from Drew (the so-called “head clearing trip”). He was originally marketing his Family Cures book as the “Drew Book” and apparently mentions how they reconnected shortly after Stacy went missing.

    This bit is from one of Budenz’s blog posts promoting the book:

    Several decades later, Dr. Dan was casually listening to the news from his office/home in the rolling hills of Clermont just west of Orlando. The television screen flashed, “Police Sergeant Drew Peterson is under suspicion for the disappearance of his fourth wife Stacy. His third wife Kathleen Savio was found dead in her tub in 2004.” Dr. Dan was reminded of the Drew Peterson he practiced karate and flew planes with years ago before Peterson joined the Army. That was before Drew Peterson enlisted in the Army. He thought, ”I should give Peterson a call and just blurt out, “Hey Drew, long time no see – how is your love life?” Not suspecting the media alleged double murderer was the Peterson he knew, Dr. Dan tuned out somewhat. Then, there it was again, the news commentator this time mentioned the alleged killer cop was a pilot. More information was revealed. The media murderer was from the Chicago area. His picture appeared onscreen. Dr. Dan’s casual internal thought process turned immediately to vocalization…Drew!

    http://onlinerehabclinic.com/?p=50

    On this blog we’ve generally assumed that the 3-day motorcycle trip Drew took was to visit Budenz, based on Brodsky’s explanation that during that time Drew went to “An old friends house near Madison Wisconsin. “

  190. In the interest of finding something, anything to corroborate Joel’s explanation for Drew’s whereabouts, I might actually consider downloading it. But I haven’t gotten to that point yet!

  191. facsmiley :
    At the time Derek Armstrong was interviewing Peterson for his book (Summer of 2008), both Drew’s and Stacy’s motorcycles were at the house on Pheasant Chase Court. Drew said that he was “keeping the bike for her” in case she returned. I think I recall that the title of the motorcycle is in Stacy’s name and that he can not sell it.
    However, in Drew’s suit against Chase for the HELOC that they denied him, only one bike is mentioned in a motion filed in May of this year:

    18. That there has been no material in Peterson’s assets in that he has substantially same assets now as the time of CHASE’s approval and issuance of his 2005 HELCO, to wit: the unencumbered residence, an SUV, a motorcycle, household furniture, furnishing and miscellaneous personal possessions.

    Of course he may or may not still have the big softail that went up on eBay. Joel claims it has been sold to a private party but…who knows.

    Hmm, interesting. Pretty sure I wrote what I read at the forum BUT I cannot, for obvious reasons, provide a link so I will let that part be.

    Otherwise, back to the matter of grime and dirt, possibly there could be a match to what “may” have been found on the vehicles, providing he didn’t clean them as thoroughly as he thought.

  192. rescueapet :
    Does Lopez have a crystal ball with which to make predictions? Damn, why isn’t he using it to win the lottery then? On the other hand, why deny something that may later turn out to be true? Why, then, should the public give a rat’s butt what comes out of Lopez’ or Brodsky’s mouths if they later have to back peddle and say Stacy’s remains were put there by someone else?
    What a bunch of morons. Drew can have them for lawyers. He deserves them.

    Also, why deny any leads if your client is innocent? An innocent person should be hopeful that she is found, just like the rest of us!

  193. song4sky :

    rescueapet :
    Does Lopez have a crystal ball with which to make predictions? Damn, why isn’t he using it to win the lottery then? On the other hand, why deny something that may later turn out to be true? Why, then, should the public give a rat’s butt what comes out of Lopez’ or Brodsky’s mouths if they later have to back peddle and say Stacy’s remains were put there by someone else?
    What a bunch of morons. Drew can have them for lawyers. He deserves them.

    Also, why deny any leads if your client is innocent? An innocent person should be hopeful that she is found, just like the rest of us!

    A loving husband should be grateful if his wife was found. A loving husband would be searching all over for his wife. And on it goes.

    Didn’t happen.

  194. rescueapet :

    But one of Peterson’s attorneys, Joseph “Shark” Lopez, said there is another reason the state police have not returned to Peoria.
    “Why don’t they go back? Because there ain’t nothing there,” Lopez said.
    “Kind of like Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vaults,” Lopez said. “A big flop.”

    I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but isn’t it better to stay quiet until the “vault” is opened and the “big flop” is confirmed, rather than talking like a 3rd grade child saying “ain’t nothing there?”
    Does Lopez have a crystal ball with which to make predictions? Damn, why isn’t he using it to win the lottery then? On the other hand, why deny something that may later turn out to be true? Why, then, should the public give a rat’s butt what comes out of Lopez’ or Brodsky’s mouths if they later have to back peddle and say Stacy’s remains were put there by someone else?
    What a bunch of morons. Drew can have them for lawyers. He deserves them.

    Don’t Peterson’s attorneys know that if LE finds Stacy’s remains at the search site, they’re going to look like fools for making such outlandish statements? And………if Peterson’s attorneys are so confident that nothing’s there, it stands to reason that they know nothing is there because they know Stacy’s remains are somewhere else.

    I’d love to be a reporter and if Stacy’s remains are found at that search site, go back to DP’s attorneys and ask the question…..”Last week you scoffed at the idea that Stacy Peterson was buried at the site on Grange Road northwest of Peoria, and ridiculed the efforts of LE…….do you feel like fools now for making nasty comments about LE, and did you make those comments in fear there would be confirmation of your client’s guilt?

    I don’t know how anyone who goes to law school, and has a sense of justice, could make the decision to become a defense attorney.

  195. @Molly #251 – “And………if Peterson’s attorneys are so confident that nothing’s there, it stands to reason that they know nothing is there because they know Stacy’s remains are somewhere else.”
    ===================================================
    I could be wrong, but I sort of doubt Drew has ever acknowledged any wrongdoing whatsoever to his attorneys, and is probably sticking by his story that he is innocent. My opinion is that they say what they say due to what Drew tells them. In fact, if Stacy’s remains are ever found, his attorneys will probably be shocked. Seriously.

  196. Agreed, CFS. Drew would be nuts to confess his guilt to his legal team. It would make it almost impossible to defend him and I could be wrong, but isn’t a defense attorney obligated to step down if that occurs? I mean, everyone is entitled to a defense but no lawyer is obligated to go against their morals and defend someone they know to be guilty.

    A defendant is expected to maintain a stance of innocence to his counsel and it’s the counsel’s obligation to defend that stance.

    Having said that, I doubt they would be shocked if Stacy’s remains were to show up at some point. They have to be prepared for all sorts of discovery that could ruin their case and plan contingencies. My guess is that if her remains are found, they will say that someone else must have killed her and make the prosecution prove that it was Drew.

  197. I agree Facs, and I meant that if her remains were found in Peoria they would probably be shocked, since she’s supposed to be off somewhere with her bikini and a man. But you’re right, they would have to be complete dufusses not to be even a little suspicious of their client’s innocence….then again, they well may be doofusses.

  198. FYI

    Steph Watts:
    AND JUST TO END MY ALREADY BUSY WEEK OFF WITH A BANG..I GOT SERVED A SUBPOENA TO TESIFY IN THE DREW PETERSON CASE
    2 hours ago

  199. facsmiley :
    Agreed, CFS. Drew would be nuts to confess his guilt to his legal team. It would make it almost impossible to defend him and I could be wrong, but isn’t a defense attorney obligated to step down if that occurs? I mean, everyone is entitled to a defense but no lawyer is obligated to go against their morals and defend someone they know to be guilty.
    A defendant is expected to maintain a stance of innocence to his counsel and it’s the counsel’s obligation to defend that stance.
    Having said that, I doubt they would be shocked if Stacy’s remains were to show up at some point. They have to be prepared for all sorts of discovery that could ruin their case and plan contingencies. My guess is that if her remains are found, they will say that someone else must have killed her and make the prosecution prove that it was Drew.

    I’m hoping that if Stacy’s remains are found at the search site, there will be something left behind……some sort of definitive evidence from the murderer, like his DNA on something. If she is in a metal barrel……..finger prints on the barrel? Something.

  200. Show Name: Special Report “The Murder of Kathleen Savio”

    Host Name: Susan Murphy Milano
    Date / Length: 6/14/2010 8:00 PM – 1 hr
    Length: 1 hr
    Description:
    h:49726 s:1097067 On this special hour we will discuss and investigate what really happened to Kathleen Savio former wife of former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson. Peterson is currently in jail awaiting trial for her murder. Our guests on the show will include a close family member of Kathleen Savio .

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/susanmurphymilano/2010/06/15/special-report-the-murder-of-kathleen-savio


  201. “Why don’t they go back? Because there ain’t nothing there,” Lopez said.

    heraldnewsonline.com

    Am I the only one noticing the double negative? “…ain’t nothing there” = is something there. Hopefully, anyway.

  202. facsmiley :
    FYI

    Steph Watts:
    AND JUST TO END MY ALREADY BUSY WEEK OFF WITH A BANG..I GOT SERVED A SUBPOENA TO TESIFY IN THE DREW PETERSON CASE
    2 hours ago

    Who is Steph Watts?

  203. Song – Steph Watts, at the time Stacy Peterson went missing, was working as a producer for Greta Van Susteren/Fox News. He came to the area with Mark Fuhrman, and did interviews and “investigations” for Fox. He befriended the Savio family, and they passed along information to him that they wanted to get out concerning Kathleen’s death. He continues to follow the Peterson case very closely and, thus, updates his experiences with the case on his blog and radio talk show.

    When Dr. Baden did his independent autopsy of Kathleen, Steph Watts was present at the autopsy, took notes, I believe, and did some video taping.

  204. Hiya song. Steph (not short for Stephanie…he’s a bloke ;) ) is a former Fox producer ( I think he’s not at Fox anymore) Greta, caught up in the story. He was present at the autopsy performed by Baden, and early on had sight of Kitty’s box of documents.

    If he’s been subpoenaed by defense, my guess is that it’s Baden-related.

  205. IMO – the more I read about activities at the Peoria site from a week ago, the more it appears LE intended to just quietly go about their business conducting a preliminary investigation resulting from a tip or whatever source when this news unexpectedly broke and therefore had to suddenly scramble for statements and public announcements they weren’t overly prepared for.

    Maybe best to have a prepared statement in their pockets at all times as one just never knows – LOL !

  206. mollymcgee : I don’t know how anyone who goes to law school, and has a sense of justice, could make the decision to become a defense attorney.

    My first post here although I’ve lurked for a long time, so please don’t jump all over me for “jumping in”, but the above quote demands comment.

    I’m not interjecting here to speak to Drew Peterson’s defense, or his defense team per se, and I agree that all posters are entitled to their own opinions, but I do believe that some here have a misconception (at least in a perfect world) as to the precise role and duty of the criminal defense attorney,(of which I am not one). But a very great one once explained to me: that while defense attorneys represent people who are criminally charged, it is not, as most people believe, for the sole purpose of obtaining a not guilty verdict. The defense attorney’s sole purpose is to defend their client’s rights as set forth in the Federal and State constitutions; to see that they are accorded every protection which is rightfully theirs to the best of his or her ability, free from intimidation by the Court, the prosecutor, and the client. They see to it that their presumptively innocent clients are afforded every protection accorded to them by our Constitution, and our laws. When they do that, they have done their job, notwithstanding the verdict, be it guilty or not guilty.

    Molly, I’m betting that if you or a loved one were to be wrongfully charged with a a capital offense (it happens) that you would not hesitate to hire a criminal defense attorney, and that you would expect and demand that you be afforded every right available to you.

    Further, as also mentioned above, there is absolutely no obligation for a defense attorney to step down once a client “confesses”. Most good defense attorneys know what they are contending with as to guilt or innocence from the get go; the truth works better that way.

  207. Thanks for your input, Drop.

    I’m the one who was confused about a defense lawyer’s duty when their cilent has plead “not guilty” but then confides his actual guilt to his defender. For some reason I thought that was one of those ethical situations in which a lawyer can or should withdraw.

    Found an interesting quote from Mark Geragos about such a situation:

    But you know, people ask you, you can’t go to a cocktail party, and somebody finds out that you’re a criminal defense lawyer, and they first question they ask you is, what do you do when your client tells you he’s guilty? And my response is, and I don’t mean it facetiously, I’m waiting for the first client to tell me he’s guilty. I mean, generally, clients — you can have the most compelling, overwhelming evidence that there is, but the clients don’t want to admit it, or they’re in denial, or whatever else.

    http://quiz.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0207/29/lkl.00.html

  208. How can the defense be so sure that any remains found or searched for are not Stacy’s? Why isn’t Team Drew Part Deux showing any concern for Stacy’s well being even if she allegedly ran off with another man according to Drew’s story? They should be at least expressing hope that it is not her and saying that since they don’t know who she went with that the other person could have harmed her. This is one of the kind of actions by defendandts that I think makes them look guilty in the public eye. I mean they could have said maybe this person who told the tipster that information actually harmed Stacy and is trying to pin it on Drew. But to laugh and chuckle about the fact that they are looking for a dead Stacy just kills me beyond words.

  209. Thanks, Drop, for your insight.

    I guess it’s safe to say there’s two sides to everything. On the other side of the defense table are those career prosecutors, who probably wonder what Molly does too. They are the ones that make sure the rights of the victims are important too. Sometimes, the victims like Kathleen and/or Stacy aren’t able to see a case through, and the victims’ families and friends are the ones who seek justice.

    Still, we all know murderers, drug dealers and thieves have the utmost right to a defense. Some of us just have a hard time dealing with the way that defense is accomplished, which, usually, is demoralizing and humiliating the witnesses against them, finding a way to discredit the way the evidence was gathered, and finding and paying for experts who can chose their words very succinctly to make it sound as though what they say is accurate or true.

    In the case of Drew Peterson, I think, either through incompetence, lack of knowledge or lack of caring, his rights were well protected by those who should have investigated the circumstances of Kathleen’s death. In fact, he enjoyed a few years of a carefree life because of the breaks he got after Kathleen’s death. Now, his defense lawyers are using every media outlet they can to turn the public’s perception of their murder defendant client to their side, in spite of the overwhelming inconsistencies pertaining to the investigation and the years following. The lead attorney has made it a circus. And, just imagine, the trial hasn’t even started yet.

  210. TAI, my guess is that since it’s been reported that the lead came from someone who is implicating Drew, they want to throw crap at the whole search and from every angle.

    Is it smart PR? I don’t think so. The facts are the facts and either Stacy’s remains will be found there or not. No smart-ass quips are going to change that.

    IMO, a defense team that put their client first and foremost would have remained silent, or expressed concern for his missing wife. But a newly hired defense team, that have signed on solely for the media exposure that comes with a high-profile defendant…well, that’s more like what we’re seeing now.

  211. Facs – My questions were more sarcasm than really looking for an answer. I do think that is why they did it – but I think that the laughing and chuckling in particular really, really gets to me. Just stand by the comments that your client cannot talk to anyone due to his setup in jail and be done with it. Trying to make it into a prosecution conspiracy and stuff is just stupid white noise again. I think that the original Team Drew would have resulted in Brodsky doing the same thing. He can’t not talk (double-negative is there on purpose). He’s like a grade school girl with a secret when these things come up and he has to go on every show possible.

  212. TAI:

    I think that the original Team Drew would have resulted in Brodsky doing the same thing. He can’t not talk (double-negative is there on purpose). He’s like a grade school girl with a secret when these things come up and he has to go on every show possible.

    LOL, or a young stud who wanted to score and didn’t, but puffs up his chest and brags to the other guys how he did. They don’t believe him, but they laugh along anyway.

  213. justdroppingin :

    mollymcgee : I don’t know how anyone who goes to law school, and has a sense of justice, could make the decision to become a defense attorney.

    My first post here although I’ve lurked for a long time, so please don’t jump all over me for “jumping in”, but the above quote demands comment.
    I’m not interjecting here to speak to Drew Peterson’s defense, or his defense team per se, and I agree that all posters are entitled to their own opinions, but I do believe that some here have a misconception (at least in a perfect world) as to the precise role and duty of the criminal defense attorney,(of which I am not one). But a very great one once explained to me: that while defense attorneys represent people who are criminally charged, it is not, as most people believe, for the sole purpose of obtaining a not guilty verdict. The defense attorney’s sole purpose is to defend their client’s rights as set forth in the Federal and State constitutions; to see that they are accorded every protection which is rightfully theirs to the best of his or her ability, free from intimidation by the Court, the prosecutor, and the client. They see to it that their presumptively innocent clients are afforded every protection accorded to them by our Constitution, and our laws. When they do that, they have done their job, notwithstanding the verdict, be it guilty or not guilty.
    Molly, I’m betting that if you or a loved one were to be wrongfully charged with a a capital offense (it happens) that you would not hesitate to hire a criminal defense attorney, and that you would expect and demand that you be afforded every right available to you.
    Further, as also mentioned above, there is absolutely no obligation for a defense attorney to step down once a client “confesses”. Most good defense attorneys know what they are contending with as to guilt or innocence from the get go; the truth works better that way.

    Hi Justdroppin,
    Thanks for the clarification of the duties of a defense attorney. While I’m aware of a defense attorney’s job to protect both federal and state Constitutional rights, I feel that some defense attorneys go beyond their job description almost to the point of becoming an accessory after the fact in their defense of their client. Joel Brodsky seems to fit into this category, with his constant verbal attacks on law enforcement and prosecution witnesses. He’s engaged in character assassination of witnesses.

    One of the best cases in recent history that illustrates the duties of a defense attorney is the case of Darren Mack, a wealthy Reno, Nevada businessman, who murdered his ex-wife and then shot the judge that presided over their divorce, while the judge sat in his chambers during recess. The judge was critically wounded but survived.

    Immediately following the judge being shot, Darren Mack fled Reno in a rental car (rented the week prior as a get-away car). He went into California and south, crossing the border into Mexico. He was apprehended in Cabo San Lucas and extradited 12 days later.

    Darren Mack was represented by two prominent Nevada defense attorneys, David Chesnoff and Scott Freeman. They were aware at the onset that their client was guilty. Not only did Darren Mack confess his crime to them, but the evidence was overwhelming.

    At his trial, held in Las Vegas in October 2007, the prosecution presented it’s case and rested. The next day, instead of beginning the defense case, Darren Mack made a plea bargain. Many watched as the judge questioned Darren as to his state of mind when deciding to make a plea. The sentencing phase of the trial was in January 2008 and Darren Mack was given life without parole.

    Three weeks later, Darren Mack fired his two attorneys, David Chesnoff and Scott Freeman. He hired a local Reno defense attorney, Mark Routsis, who filed an appeal of the sentence, stating that Darren Mack had been coerced into a plea bargain by his two defense attorneys.

    This hearing was live streamed online and many that had followed the case from beginning to end were glued to our computer screens. The most fascinating testimony came from the two defense attorneys, David Chesnoff and Scott Freeman, who had to take the stand as witnesses and defend their actions acting as Darren Mack’s attorneys. It was through their testimony that we learned that they had a confession of guilt from Darren Mack, and what steps they took to defend his rights. They went with a defense of self-defense when it came to the stabbing death of Darren Mack’s ex-wife. The shooting of the judge was clearly an attempted assassination. The two defense attorneys felt that the plea deal Darren Mack got was justice served.

    I would classify these two attorneys as good defense attorneys. They defended their client’s rights based on what the client told them, while at the same time knowing his guilt and being repulsed by the details their client shared with them on how he killed his ex-wife. At no time did either of the two attorneys attempt to vilify law enforcement, witnesses, or the prosecution team. They felt justice was served. I came away from watching that hearing with a respect for those two defense attorneys.

    I think there’s good defense attorneys and bad defense attorneys. And there’s some that see a high profile case as a career builder, and don’t act in their client’s best interests.

    What I’m saying is that it would be very difficult to be a defense attorney. At some point you have to set aside personal feelings of right and wrong, and disgust with a client’s crime, in order to defend him or her. It’s like walking a tightrope.

  214. Thanks Rescue!

    About the only similarity between the Darren Mack case and the Drew Peterson case, is that they both killed their wife. Darren Mack was so sloppy in killing his wife, that he left behind a “to do” list on his kitchen counter-top detailing the steps he needed to take to kill his wife and shoot the judge. The Reno police were thorough and gave the public access to evidence lists and depositions.

    Both the prosecution and the defense attorneys were good and the whole case was handled much differently that what we’ve witnessed in the case with Drew Peterson.

  215. Maybe being a good defense attorney is like being a good surgeon… ya gotta have the stomach for it.

  216. Thanks Facsmiley,

    Watching the two defense attorneys take the witness stand and being questioned was a fascinating experience. Their testimony revealed facts about the case that wouldn’t have been made known otherwise. In particular, David Chesnoff’s testimony in which he stated that his former client, Darren Mack, described in detail how he killed his wife. Mr. Chesnoff said he was shocked at those graphic details and it turned his stomach.

    In the end, the judge ruled that there was no coercion on the part of the two former defense attorneys, when the plea deal was made, and the sentence stood. As far as I know, there’s been no other appeals.

  217. judgin :
    Maybe being a good defense attorney is like being a good surgeon… ya gotta have the stomach for it.

    Judgin…….I agree. Being a good defense attorney is someone who can have a clear conscious that at the end of the day he did his job well and justice was done.

  218. Molly … that, in a nutshell, is basically what I was getting at, and that goes for good prosecutors as well.

  219. Hi Molly. Interesting post.

    I object to the style of lawyerin’, as I think Moll was getting at. JB and his ilk are disgracing themselves. He doesn’t appear to show any respect for the court.Of course he shouldn’t be freaking laughing,. I really do think that this wouldn’t be tolerated here. He may even have been warned by a Crown Court judge about the quality of his various written submissions. Officer of the Court and all that.

  220. Thank you for the reminder, Rescue.
    I wonder if Brodsky’s Bunch is even giving her a thought. Her poor sons!

  221. bucketoftea :
    Hi Molly. Interesting post.
    I object to the style of lawyerin’, as I think Moll was getting at. JB and his ilk are disgracing themselves. He doesn’t appear to show any respect for the court.Of course he shouldn’t be freaking laughing,. I really do think that this wouldn’t be tolerated here. He may even have been warned by a Crown Court judge about the quality of his various written submissions. Officer of the Court and all that.

    Hi Bucket,

    I agree. From the beginning the relationship between Joel Brodsky and DP hasn’t been attorney/client, as it should be, as much as it’s been a partnership. Joel has brought himself down to his client’s level, showing disrespect for LE, prosecution witnesses, and the prosecution team. It’s an “us vs them” mentality. In doing so, JB is a disgrace to good defense attorneys and a disgrace to the court.

  222. rescueapet :
    Today, our thoughts are with Kathleen Savio’s family and friends, who are thinking of her, remembering her, on her birthday.

    Thanks Rescue. I’m sure Kathleen’s family and friends are remembering the good memories, and how different it would have been if Drew Peterson hadn’t been part of Kathleen’s life……….

  223. cheryljones :
    Thank you for the reminder, Rescue.
    I wonder if Brodsky’s Bunch is even giving her a thought. Her poor sons!

    I hope that some day Kathleen’s two boys will be able to have a relationship with their mother’s side of the family, and come to know the truth.

  224. Molly – Now there, you struck a nerve. Going through life convincing your kids, on top of everything else, that their mothers’ families aren’t worthy of having a relationship with them, is just plain ignorant and sick. What a shame, especially since the guy calling the shots is lacking morality to the nth degree.

  225. rescueapet :
    Molly – Now there, you struck a nerve. Going through life convincing your kids, on top of everything else, that their mothers’ families aren’t worthy of having a relationship with them, is just plain ignorant and sick. What a shame, especially since the guy calling the shots is lacking morality to the nth degree.

    Rescue,
    I hope that sometime in the future Kathleen’s two boys will understand what happened and want to establish a relationship with their mother’s family. I think the oldest boy turns 18 this year, and while none of us know what his plans are for the future, beyond high school, I hope that once he’s out on his own and matures he will realize what happened and get counseling. It won’t be easy for either of the two boys.

  226. So when does the oldest turn 18? Can’t the authorities question him when he does without Drew being able to prevent it? I was just thinking about that. I feel so bad for the two oldest boys the most because they have suffered the loss of two mothers. I hadn’t realized it was Kathleen’s birthday and my prayers go out to her family and children.

  227. Got picked for jury duty today. And even though it’s a civil case, I do take it very seriously.
    And it’s Flag Day.
    We have so much to be grateful for. We are blessed.

  228. thinkaboutit2 :
    So when does the oldest turn 18? Can’t the authorities question him when he does without Drew being able to prevent it?

    That’s a good point.

    These children heard and seen things they may not have been able to tell or didn’t make sense to them at the time.

    If the older boys (eg Erics testimony) experienced violence in the home they can remember so vividly, it would be the same for Thomas & Kris and even little eyes and ears like Anthony & Lacey.

  229. justanotherhen :

    thinkaboutit2 :
    So when does the oldest turn 18? Can’t the authorities question him when he does without Drew being able to prevent it?

    That’s a good point.
    These children heard and seen things they may not have been able to tell or didn’t make sense to them at the time.
    If the older boys (eg Erics testimony) experienced violence in the home they can remember so vividly, it would be the same for Thomas & Kris and even little eyes and ears like Anthony & Lacey.

    I remember a report that stated that one of the two boys, either Chris or Thomas, said he was in his room and heard a lot of yelling…….then silence. It’s possible that the two older boys could provide some details about what went on inside the Peterson household. But I wonder if what they remember has been clouded by their father’s version of what happened? I wonder how much contact the children have had with DP in the past year?

  230. Investigators are pretty good at asking questions in different ways to get information they need. IIRC Thomas wasn’t home at the time (at band practice or something) but Kristopher was allegedly the one who said he heard arguing. Kristopher won’t be 18 for a while and as long as he is a minor – the authorities cannot question him without approval from what I understand. IDK – The boys may always stand behind their dad (like Stephen has) or they may pull away (like Eric). Well – I was just thinking out loud on that one and it’s all speculation of what the authorities may do or what they may say so I’ll let it go. I was just wondering if anyone knew the actual rules on that.

  231. Sounds more like they are putting together a package to run during the trial. I don’t think they are camping out there for any time. At least, that’s not what Hosey’s tweet says.

    We’ve also heard that there is some taping today at Kathy’s gravesite.

  232. Ahhh – that makes more sense. I was picturing them camping out trying to get the best spot if the national news media shows back up later. :)

  233. I don’t think it’ll be anything like it was, thank goodness, for the poor residents of Pheasant Chase.

  234. Joe Hosey’s been checking into the searching in Peoria, and, AFAIK, he’s being told no searches have been going on. He has a story coming out later today.

  235. rescueapet :
    joehosey
    Outside Kathleen Savio’s house with In Session, filming spot to air during the trial.
    1 minute ago via txt

    Hi Rescue,
    Do you have a link for Joe Hosey on Twitter? I’d love keep track of any news. :)

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