The hearsay hearing of Drew Peterson for the murder of Kathleen Savio continues. This morning Anna Doman wrapped up her testimony and a friend of Kathleen’s, Kristin Anderson took the stand.
Anderson testified that the two became friends after she rented Kathleen’s basement for a few months while some work was being done on her house. She testified that Kathleen told her about the time that Drew held a knife to her throat and also showed her a briefcase where she kept police reports and letters. Anderson said that these documents were kept as a paper trail in case Drew killed Kathleen, there would be something to point at who did it.
Anderson stated that Kathleen seemed “almost resigned” to the thought that Drew Peterson would kill her and make her death appear accidental.
Bolingbrook Police Officer, Lt. Brian Hafner also took the stand and testified that in death scene photos Kathleen’s body looked like she had been positioned in a police arm lock he had taught Drew to use.
Attorney Karen Conti who has helped us out so much with legal facts and insight about the case will be on Fox Chicago tomorrow at around 8:25 am discussing the hearsay hearings.
Sources:
http://twitter.com/joehosey
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/
http://twitter.com/craig_wall
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http://www.wgntv.com/news/sns-ap-il–drewpeterson,0,4595581.story
“We just tucked it away, and I found it after she died,” Peterson said earlier this year. “There’s nothing sinister and out of line about it. Everything was done proper.”
-(From yesterday’s thread)
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Even if I believed 100% that this will was legal and above-board, (yeah, right) this statement of Drew’s just sounds too much like B’rer Rabbit.
IMO, and I know it’s not shared by everyone, the will was actually valid at one point and written up as Drew said, before they took a trip. However, and this is a big however, it was brought up that the will only addressed what should happen in the event that both of them died which should have nullified it. With the will nullified, and the two of them legally divorced, her property should have gone to her next of kin…her two children.
This post and the comments after took a good look at the will and how Kathleens’ inheritance ended up in Drew’s hands:
https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/drew-peterson-and-the-slayer-statute-can-a-killer-inherit/
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/03/illinois.drew.peterson.quotes/
O.M.G! AGAIN someone is saying ISP refused to listen! What’s wrong with these people who are paid to protect and serve?
cheryljones February 3, 2010 at 11:47 am | #6 Quote “Also, Anderson said she tried to relay information to the state police after Savio died but they would not see her”.
2 minutes ago from txt
O.M.G! AGAIN someone is saying ISP refused to listen! What’s wrong with these people who are paid to protect and serve?
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They were serving and protecting: Drew Peterson !
The minister, Kathleen’s BF, the basement tenants and God knows who else contacted the ISP and got nowhere. This was a staged killing and coverup from day one.
IMO, DP’s “comical” behavior has everything to do with his narcissism and sense of entitlement. The article mentions humor as a coping mechanism for police officers. The same holds true for all first responders like firefighters and paramedics, who have to cope with emergencies and trauma every day. They do develop humor to cope with their occupation, but NOT when it comes to themselves or their families. They don’t crack jokes if a family member is missing!
And Drew was counting on those same people to cover for him when he made Stacy disappear! What he didn’t count on was the national media attention that focused on his missing wife, and outside authorities uncovering his trail of deception!
Methinks you are correct, Writer.
I’ve just spent some time over on the thread where Facs directed us, and I keep seeing one major bloodline through Drew-money! Everything revolves around money. His is his, and he thinks everyone else’s is his, too. Selfish, greedy, stingy, lying money grubber.
Money, cons, and callousness.
Thats right, Cheryl. It’s all about Drew and his comfort and freedom. Not the children and certainly not the women who had the misfortune of crossing paths with this monster. Drew is a misogynist and a narcissistic psychopath who views others as vehicles.
Drew planned this killing out from when it would occur to who would be on-call to *investigate* right on up to another waterboy on the coroners jury. His cop-pals sworn to serve and protect served and protected this monster who went on to kill, again. Each and everyone who played a role must be held accountable with full transparency.
Other enablers and waterboys will be uncovered as his trial gets underway; forged documents, real estate affadavits, bonds that were never posted, and so forth. The paper trail will reveal who did what and believe this, there is a paper trail.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/more-testimony-that-peterson-threatened-to-kill-savio.html
LOL, Facs-CASH, cons and callousness.
Writer, absolutely and definitely a misogynist, but you know, he hates men, too.(Misandrist)
He hates everyone who isn’t Drew Peterson. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him compliment anyone, male or female.
Everything he has stolen in his life is in his (eye) bags.
BTW, Rescue emailed me a nice picture of her next to a pineapple palm tree yesterday. *sigh*
Don’t worry. This is a fake picture. Photomontage. 😉
February 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm | #15 Quote Everything he has stolen in his life is in his (eye) bags.
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it’s been said that the eyes are the windows to the soul.
here is some interesting information:
http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/01/drew-screws-over-his-own-children.html
No wonder they’re so big! Moneybags! Reminds me of the old wives’ tale about how lizard mating ritual. 😀 Someone needs to tell Drew it doesn’t actually work for real lizards, either..oh, my goodness!
Thanks for the link, Writer.
“*25 % of house flipping venture”
Is that the house flipping venture that Drew denies having with Lenny?
here is the person who notarized the will witnessed by DP’s 2 pals. I suspect this to be an associate of Gary Marcolina
INACTIVE NOTARY
Name PAYNE, NICOLE A
Address 21429 LOCH LANE
City CREST HILL
State IL Zip 60403
Employer
Access 573110
Current Commission 02-05-2003 Transaction Number 12734
Original Commission 02-05-2003 Last Issued 02-05-2003
Term 4
County WILL Previous Key 573110
Surety NC 03/26/2007 #672097
Bond Number SUR199925 Renewal Print Date 11-22-2006
HISTORY
Commission First Surety
02-05-2003 NORTH AMERICAN SPECIALTY INS CO
Childish Comment of The Day: I just heard from someone who was at the courthouse this morning and she said that Joel has become HUGE.
She is a BB police officer but her name is diffrent now. Wlodarczyk or something like that. I checked on her some time ago.
Does it mean FAT?
Yes it does.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/2027859,drew-peterson-savio-knife-020410.article
That just makes me sick at my stomach. Is there nothing that can be done about this travesty of justice?
cheryljones:
That just makes me sick at my stomach. Is there nothing that can be done about this travesty of justice?
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yes, uncover and expose their evil manipulations and greed and demand accountability and leave no stone unturned.
we must do this for our mothers, daughters and sisters.
Kathleen was fighting, for sure. Can you remember Peterson on the family video dressed in a strange manner just after her death?
So we can call him a fat pig now, right?
Now, now, now…
With every witness who takes the stand I think this is taking place. BBPD and the ISP can’t possibly be oblivious to all of these statements.
Sheeesh! So much for Joel’s “why didn’t you call the cops.” The people that did were ignored. This is just utterly sickening. I think Joel is a fat pig sitting next to his fat chicken of a client.
Drew MAY get his, but there’s no going back on all the others who failed Kathleen. And I keep thinking not only Stacy but Lisa Stebic, too, and God only knows how many others.
The press seems to me to be holding back. Why would they do this? Maybe they have their own book deals?
facsmiley : I just heard from someone who was at the courthouse this morning and she said that Joel has become HUGE.
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” huge ” as in the huge mistake his desperate and now rotund self made by taking on Drew Peterson as a client ? That kind of huge ? Buffoonsky’s expenses must be astronimically huge by now since his golden boy and photo op is broke and he’s not getting paid and so he’s a huge slave to the thing and probably has a huge lein on his house.
Watch him try and spin this into something positive, such as..” rather than contribune to global warming, I have decided not to drive but rather roll everywhere..”
WHAT COP?
All in due time…
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/more-testimony-that-peterson-threatened-to-kill-savio.html
Why didn’t he say something then?
Blessings on the DA’s office!
From all the horrifying details emerging at present, one can only imagine what Kathleens life must have been like being on the receiving end of the wrath of an untouchable sociopathic cop husband.
Having to lock yourself into your own home, turning your home into a fortress with deadlocks everywhere, even a deadlock on your bedroom door etc and this man still gets in when he feels like it and does what he feels like doing.
Was there ever such a thing as violation of Department Policies or violation of oath by a Police Officer when it came to Drew as it appears none of that ever applied to him (!!)
Right, JAH. And grounds for denial of his pension!
Speaking of, what happens to that pension if (when?) he goes to prison?
I bet if looks could kill, there are a lot of people testifying in that courtroom who would (also) be dead!
Justanotherhen that is what I do not get either! They knew when these domestic calls were being made between the two of them, it should of been at least investigated by department. The accusations of abuse, and him threatening her with a knife should of at least if anything else places him on desk duty, and stripped of weapon pending investigation, and counseling.
Personally in light of these things coming out I feel he should lose his pension. Some of the things he has even admitted himself on national tv, that should be against department procedure so why does this man still have his benefits?
lol Cheryl you and I thinking same thing at same time haha
There was something said on news today earlier that during recess Drew was seen laughing, and chatting away with the deputies. I am glad he still thinks this is all a big joke!
Records showed that Peterson was appointed to a police evidence technician position in June of 1984, Hafner said.
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So who would know all about erasing evidence and cleaning up a crime scene ?
I’ve always wondered from day one why Joel was always crowing “there’s no evidence to link Drew to anything”, “there’s no evidence Drew was ever in the house”, “the State has no evidence”, blah, blah, blah.
Looks like Joel was wrong on every single count.
Oh, me, too! The bigger (fools) they are, the harder they fall. But he can go inside the big house laughing his head off, as long as he goes inside.
And it seems that there are others who should be accompanying him!
LOL, Questions-
Nunchuks? Crikey.
Fat bus driver
http://media.photobucket.com/image/jackie%20gleason/stem50/TheGREATOne.jpg?o=29
The downhill slide has already begun as so far Sgt. Collins and the locksmith did a good job incriminating themselves and dobbing Drew in while they were at it (!!)
February 3, 2010 at 6:08 pm | #48 Quote Oh, me, too! The bigger (fools) they are, the harder they fall. But he can go inside the big house laughing his head off, as long as he goes inside.
And it seems that there are others who should be accompanying him!
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I agree completely. Drew was enabled by others; he could not have pulled this off alone. He knew who would be ” investigating ” and had established a timetable, complete with an alibi. I am so glad there are websites sich as this and candyrose where documentation is complied and the cast of characters. We need to keep track of the characters and what role they played and demand accountability. No more blue walls or indifference. 2 women are gone and those responsible must pay.
February 3, 2010 at 5:10 pm | #37
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facsmiley : I just heard from someone who was at the courthouse this morning and she said that Joel has become HUGE.
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Oh well, he obviously still has money to eat or maybe that’s all that’s left in his life – LOL !
It’s all that midnight oil pizza. It’s a killer.
Hell, I’m fatter than I was two years ago. Too much time sitting in front of this computer.
It’s a sacrifice, Facs, and we appreciate it 😉
BTW, Attorney Karen Conti who has helped us out so much with legal facts and insight about the case will be on Fox 32 tomorrow at around 8:25 am discussing the hearsay hearings.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/2027907,Peterson-Savio-hearsay-JO020310.article
These stories just keep getting worse and worse, don’t they?
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/apx-witness-testifies-about-alleged-peterson-threats
Officer: Scene of Savio’s Death Fishy
Updated: Wednesday, 03 Feb 2010, 9:40 PM CST
Published : Wednesday, 03 Feb 2010, 2:01 PM CST
By Craig Wall, FOX Chicago News
A Bolingbrook police officer took the witness stand Wednesday in Drew Peterson’s pretrial hearing and suggested that there was something fishy about the scene where Kathleen Savio was found dead in 2004.
Bolingbrook Police Lt. Brian Hafner testified that he trained Drew Peterson in a variety of suspect control techniques. He said as an officer, Peterson knew how to use arm and wrist locks known as “come alongs” that allow cops to compel suspects to come along with them, or risk a great deal of pain.
Hafner was shown photos of Kathleen Savio’s body where she was found, slumped forward, dead in a dry bathtub. He testified that the position of Savio’s right arm was consistent with a police hold known as an “arm bar,” which Peterson had been trained to use.
When defense attorneys asked him if the way Savio’s body was found was also consistent with a “slip and fall” bathtub accident, Hafner said “it didn’t look that way” to him.
Savio’s death was originally ruled an accidental drowning, but shortly after Peterson’s fourth wife Stacy disappeared in 2007, prosecutors exhumed and reexamined Savio’s body and charged Peterson with murdering her and staging the scene to look like an accident.
Hafner also testified that Peterson was trained and worked as a crime scene technician.
Earlier, a woman who rented Savio’s basement for two months during the fall of 2003, took the stand. Kristin Anderson testified that Savio told her about a time Peterson broke in, held a knife to her throat and threatened her, saying “I can kill you at any time and make it look like an accident.”
Anderson said Savio was convinced Peterson would do just that, and she showed Anderson a briefcase full of police reports and other evidence against Peterson which she said she kept for one purpose: “So there would be a paper trail… in case she was murdered she wanted everybody to know who did it,” Anderson told the judge.
The defense questioned why Anderson did not go to police with the information.
“I think that Kristin is not being truthful, and she’s trying to simply help the prosecution that she wants to see succeed, rather than tell the truth and let justice take its course,” said Joel Brodsky, Peterson’s Attorney.
Anderson testified that after Savio’s death she called State Police twice, but no one called her back and she was never interviewed until after Stacy Peterson disappeared in 2007.
Anderson’s testimony corroborated what other witnesses said, but she also added some knew insight into just how afraid Savio was of Peterson. She testified that Savio had installed a deadbolt on her bedroom door, and slept with a knife under her mattress.
Fishy? I’d say we’re knee-deep in brine shrimp!
Thanks, Judgin
You know what I don’t get? Joel always goes after these people as if they’re all just lining up to get free chicken wings and a pair of designer shoes for their testimony.
Testifying in a murder case is hell. The cross-examination is hell. No one would volunteer to get up on that stand unless they felt that they had a moral duty to do so.
Don’t forget, every one of those people is sworn to tell the truth. This is no frivolous undertaking.
He is just doing a job he is now stuck with … he has nothing good to work with… he knows dp is guilty. I don’t know how he could defend that soul-less creature.
Those brave people who went to testify and doing their own children a favor by setting an example for those monsters to see that they cant get away with this kind of behavior.
Thanks to these brave people!
*Applause*
and a standing ovation !!
We can’t Thank them enough for coming forward and pursuing the truth.
They will make a difference in Will County now that the actions of ISP have been exposed. It’s no wonder there are so many unsolved crimes in Will County.
Comment from Lee James, coroner’s juror:
30-45 minutes…and it was over. And Drew Peterson was free to kill again.
Actually ISP seemed pretty good at solving crime. Maybe I was blind before and didn’t know what they were doing. This case definitely sheds light on the shoddiness of how a case was so overlooked and they did not even look Kathleen’s way. They decided that a cops word was supposed to be the deciding vote.How much of this was shoved under the table?I know sometimes I say things without backing them up. Trust me though upon request I will do it. Gatekeep says not to keep quoting the same thing and so its already quoted usually. Here is the question of the day though. How many hearsay statements is the prosecution trying to get admitted? I read it and can’t find it, but I feel its important.As far as future reference anyway.
Collins is kicking himself in the head. Lot of good that does. I’m glad he was honest. That doesn’t let him off the hook though. Pore your guts Collins. Put that POS away.
I wonder if the person who wrote a letter to Kathleen informing about Drew’s affair stepped forward, or has ever been indentified by ISP.
Thats A good question Cyrhia.
I’m sure it was people who were concerned Cyrhla. Possibly even a relative. Cant back that up’ lol
Bolingbrook Police Lt. Brian Hafner testified that he trained Drew Peterson in a variety of suspect control techniques. He said as an officer, Peterson knew how to use arm and wrist locks known as “come alongs” that allow cops to compel suspects to come along with them, or risk a great deal of pain.
Hafner was shown photos of Kathleen Savio’s body where she was found, slumped forward, dead in a dry bathtub. He testified that the position of Savio’s right arm was consistent with a police hold known as an “arm bar,” which Peterson had been trained to use.
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Isn’t that the same police hold he used on Kathleen when he had her face down in the grass in front of her neighbors, the altercation when Stacy was filming her with Kathleens own camera ??
Yes JAH I believe so anyway.Thanks for that info.
February 4, 2010 at 1:43 am | #68
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Collins is kicking himself in the head. Lot of good that does. I’m glad he was honest. That doesn’t let him off the hook though. Pore your guts Collins. Put that POS away.
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I don’t know how much Sgt. Collins is kicking himself in the head or how honest he was either.
He couldn’t very well get up there and say what a great job he did in this investigation !!
All he could say is what he did say !
All I know is Brodsky better come up with something better than an appeal IMO.
You know everyones on drugs and writing books for money.
JAH : Yea I guess so. You know he had help in doing so. Bolingbrook and Romeoville has The same attitude until this. They even hired new people to help there PR
To back that up there is an article in the bugle I believe where Romeoville took no evidence in a robbery call. Can’t find it I’m sorry but I know it exists. So I have no problem saying it.Its allways been known in the community that both RV and BB were crooked.Police were gods and to be avoided in that sector anyway. Exaggerating of course, but not by much.
Not in the context of “That Avatar movie is HUGE!”? lol
I really don’t see too many miles being logged by Brodsky on that bus.
From all the reports I’ve read, someone other than Brodsky is doing most of the
cross-examination.
I have yet to see any “fancy lawyering”.
GAR, anything I read said 15.
Does anyone have a list (or partial list) with the content of the 15 statements prosecutors want to use?
In the motions and replies about the constitutionality of the hearsay law, they mention some specific statements they want admitted, but not an exact number, I don’t think. You can find the motions on the Documents page of this site.
There is reference to statements 2 through 9 at one point and some of them are described.
“Non-testimonial statments (statements made to people who were not required to notify police, nor made to police or for the purposes of prosecution)”
#2 — Kathleen to a roommate
#3 and #4 — Kathleen to a fellow student
#5 — Kathleen to a co-worker
#6 and #7 — Kathleen to her sisters
#8 — Stacy to a friend
#9 — Stacy to a pastor
https://petersonstory.wordpress.com/documents/kathleen-savio-murder-case-legal-documents/#g
I would assume that in addition to these there are seven more statements the state wants admitted.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-0203-drew-peterson-hearing-20100202,0,4789883.story
FWIW, I wish everyone who is worried about the hearsay law and its constitutionality would take a look at the “Attorney General’s Filing of Objections to Defendant’s motion to Declare the “Hearsay law” Unconstitutional“. (It’s the same doc I linked in the last comment but it might load faster directly from the Scribd site.)
It just seems like so often people over-simplify or are just mistaken about what the statute allows and then they go off on a rant about it without knowing what they are talking about. I’ve seen so many fearful and reactionary comments on the news stories from people who just don’t have a clue!
That is what I wanted to say. Some people do not understand the purpose of the law and think if one neighbour goes to the police…